| xubuntu15w | hello | 01:17 |
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| holstein | o/ | 01:17 |
| xubuntu15w | I am very new at this and trying to upgrade | 01:17 |
| xubuntu15w | A thinkpad T42 from 9.04 Unbuntu to 12.0 gui | 01:18 |
| xubuntu15w | on restart, I get that | 01:19 |
| xubuntu15w | "there is a word wrong in header and 'boot:' prompt | 01:19 |
| xubuntu93w | hello | 01:24 |
| xubuntu93w | hello | 01:24 |
| xubuntu93w | need help upgrading older installation. boot files not loading properly. | 01:28 |
| drc | xubuntu93w: It sounds like you have already tried and things got borked? | 01:28 |
| xubuntu93w | maybe | 01:30 |
| drc | maybe? you don't know? | 01:30 |
| xubuntu93w | getting, "word wrong in header"? | 01:30 |
| xubuntu93w | boot: | 01:30 |
| xubuntu93w | can get into and using 9.04 unbuntu gui now | 01:31 |
| holstein | !eolupgrade | 01:32 |
| ubottu | End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades | 01:32 |
| drc | OK. 1) Trying to upgrade from 9,04 is futile. 2) if you did try (as it looks like from your prior posts, then trying to fix things is even more futile. | 01:32 |
| holstein | i would just fresh install.. | 01:32 |
| holstein | you'll want a backup, regardless.. | 01:32 |
| drc | xubuntu93w: The best thing to do it install uptodate Xubuntu from scratch. | 01:32 |
| holstein | best/easiest/cleanest/safest.. | 01:33 |
| drc | +fastest :) | 01:33 |
| xubuntu93w | tried from dvd with above ^^^^results. | 01:33 |
| drc | xubuntu93w: Tried what? | 01:33 |
| xubuntu93w | it's a old T42 thinkpad | 01:33 |
| holstein | xubuntu93w: if you cant get a live DVD to run on the hardware, the upgrade wont work, either | 01:34 |
| holstein | xubuntu93w: i suggest, load up a 14.04, or 15.04 live iso, and address whatever issues are happening.. | 01:34 |
| holstein | when you get the live iso working on the thinkpad, you can then install | 01:34 |
| xubuntu93w | can I burn that to thumbd drive? | 01:35 |
| drc | yes | 01:35 |
| holstein | xubuntu93w: you are saying, you already did, correct? | 01:35 |
| xubuntu93w | anyone know where I find 'live' version to load on thumb drive? | 01:36 |
| holstein | xubuntu93w: its the normal, live installation iso | 01:36 |
| holstein | xubuntu93w: the installer *is* live.. meaning, you can run it live, before installing. you can burn do DVD, or, dd copy to usb stick | 01:37 |
| drc | xubuntu93w: it's the same iso for dvd and usb. Do you need the url again? | 01:37 |
| holstein | !install | 01:37 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall - Don't want to use a CD? See http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate | 01:37 |
| xubuntu93w | I will look at these. Thanks so much | 01:38 |
| === JeZxLee_ is now known as JeZxLee | ||
| thenewone | Hi | 03:48 |
| thenewone | there is no bspwm in repo ? | 03:49 |
| Mirv | knome: xfpanel-switch now at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/wily/+queue?queue_state=0&queue_text= | 06:15 |
| Mirv | knome: Unit193: the only diff being http://paste.ubuntu.com/12133680/ | 06:16 |
| Mirv | the gtk just because I tried installing it on 14.04 LTS and noticed | 06:16 |
| Unit193 | Mirv: Hello kind sir! | 06:18 |
| Unit193 | Mirv: Thanks muchly! Though our development channel is #xubuntu-devel, won't get lost as easily. | 06:19 |
| Mirv | oh, oh :) | 06:19 |
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| === kevin is now known as Skeletbossen | ||
| DJJeff | I am trying to start xfwm4 with gdb but no luck even tried attaching it to a pid and it locks up | 08:58 |
| DJJeff | which requires I do CTRL+ALT+1 for tty1 to kill the pid of gdb | 08:59 |
| DJJeff | trying to get a backtrace from | 09:02 |
| DJJeff | xfwm4 crashed with sigsegv in set_reload() | 09:02 |
| DJJeff | this says its a dupe of a private bug? | 09:06 |
| DJJeff | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfwm4/+bug/1416818 | 09:06 |
| ubottu | Error: Could not gather data from Launchpad for bug #1416818 (https://launchpad.net/bugs/1416818). The error has been logged | 09:06 |
| DJJeff | http://pastebin.com/yp3DaZ8p | 09:20 |
| DJJeff | contains crash log -- xfwm4 crashed with SIGSEGV in set_reload() | 09:21 |
| OCP001 | Hi! | 09:30 |
| OCP001 | Does Xubuntu 14.04 LTS support UEFI+Secure Boot? | 09:31 |
| OCP001 | I want to install it parallel (on a second HDD) to Windows 8.1 Pro | 09:31 |
| f0xtr0t-qwerty-k | hi everyone | 10:11 |
| f0xtr0t-qwerty-k | can somebody help me out with my problem in my new xubuntu set up | 10:12 |
| f0xtr0t-qwerty-k | i just installed xubuntu 32-bit on my eee pc | 10:12 |
| f0xtr0t-qwerty-k | but when i connect my usb hard drive it would not detect it | 10:13 |
| f0xtr0t-qwerty-k | does LVM have anything to do with this?as this is the first time i have tried installing a distro with LVM enabled | 10:14 |
| f0xtr0t-qwerty-k | the format of my usb hard is in ntfs | 10:14 |
| f0xtr0t-qwerty-k | hello?anyone here? | 10:18 |
| cub | f0xtr0t-qwerty-k, ntfs might be the issue there. I used an eee pc for years before but only used USB drives with FAT32. | 10:31 |
| cub | f0xtr0t-qwerty-k, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2233326 unless you have already tried that? | 10:34 |
| f0xtr0t-qwerty-k | Thanks @cub i'm sure it | 10:40 |
| f0xtr0t-qwerty-k | i'm sure it's not the ntfs issue coz before i did a fresh install on my eee pc i was using xubuntu on it with the same hard drive | 10:41 |
| f0xtr0t-qwerty-k | the only difference was the LVM enabled feature during the installation | 10:41 |
| f0xtr0t-qwerty-k | any idea? | 10:41 |
| f0xtr0t-qwerty-k | i actually don't see it in my fdisk -l which worries me | 10:42 |
| f0xtr0t-qwerty-k | i could show you the fdisk output if you like | 10:43 |
| cub | f0xtr0t-qwerty-k, but the previous installation perhaps had the ntfs-3g added already? | 10:46 |
| f0xtr0t-qwerty-k | that could be it | 10:47 |
| f0xtr0t-qwerty-k | hmm let me check if it is installed | 10:47 |
| f0xtr0t-qwerty-k | thanks again cub :D | 10:48 |
| f0xtr0t-qwerty-k | welll i could see ntfs-3g is installed | 10:50 |
| f0xtr0t-qwerty-k | but i still can't see it in my fdisk output so i can't mount it even with ntfs-3g | 10:51 |
| f0xtr0t-qwerty-k | unless i'm missing something hmmm | 10:51 |
| cub | f0xtr0t-qwerty-k, I'm out then. I was my hope it would be easy. :D | 10:51 |
| f0xtr0t-qwerty-k | haha thanks cub for trying i guess ill keep on looking around :D | 10:51 |
| cub | There are other people here with better knowledge than me so. | 10:58 |
| f0xtr0t-qwerty-k | this is the output i got guys | 11:02 |
| f0xtr0t-qwerty-k | Disk /dev/sda: 750.2 GB, 750156374016 bytes | 11:03 |
| f0xtr0t-qwerty-k | 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 91201 cylinders, total 1465149168 sectors | 11:03 |
| f0xtr0t-qwerty-k | Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes | 11:03 |
| f0xtr0t-qwerty-k | Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes | 11:03 |
| f0xtr0t-qwerty-k | I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes | 11:03 |
| f0xtr0t-qwerty-k | Disk identifier: 0x000abb5e | 11:03 |
| n-iCe | hello guys | 15:12 |
| n-iCe | I'm thinkin in move to xubuntu | 15:12 |
| drc | And your question is...? | 15:13 |
| n-iCe | does it worth it? | 15:17 |
| n-iCe | :p | 15:17 |
| knome | n-iCe, you're asking #xubuntu if xubuntu is good? | 15:17 |
| drc | <sarcasm>No, not at all</sarcasm> Seriously, you come to a Xubuntu support channel and then ask " does it worth it?". | 15:18 |
| n-iCe | knome: yeah | 15:18 |
| n-iCe | I bet a lot of you have used xubuntu and are using a different distro | 15:19 |
| n-iCe | I do it sometimes, because I have good friends in other distro channels :D | 15:19 |
| n-iCe | But, hell, gonna try it, brb in xubuntu, I'm currently using archlinux + xfce | 15:19 |
| n-iCe | kisses! | 15:19 |
| cub | n-iCe, yes. And if you don't like it, install something else. | 15:19 |
| n-iCe | ok | 15:19 |
| n-iCe | hello, I'm back in xubuntu, good looking. | 15:43 |
| RFleming | Greetings! How does one efficiently use GNU Stow (or any other symlink farm manager) for storing XFCE4 settings (a la dotfile management)? | 16:27 |
| drc | Seeing as how no one's answering (and I have no idea either), I'd try #gnu...the topic says thst the right place to ask about any gnu-related item. | 16:36 |
| RFleming | drc, thanks. I know how to use stow, it's xfce which I'm having issues with as it appears to erase and write new files (breaking my symlinked files). | 16:41 |
| drc | ah, sorry. | 16:42 |
| RFleming | drc, no worries :) | 16:43 |
| drc | Just out of curiosity, what files does it appear to be overwriting? | 16:46 |
| drc | RFleming: ^^ | 16:47 |
| RFleming | pointers.xml, xfce4-panel.xml | 16:47 |
| RFleming | xfce4-applications.xml | 16:47 |
| RFleming | pretty much any file I symlink, then make a change in xfce disappears to be replaced with a new file | 16:48 |
| RFleming | I was using the stow --adopt option which overwrites existing files with symlinks, but maintains the pre-existing folder structure. | 16:48 |
| RFleming | I AM using | 16:49 |
| drc | interesting...well, you aslo might try #xfce. | 16:50 |
| RFleming | I have posed the question there. They are... erm... slow to respond there :) | 16:50 |
| drc | yeah...it's the summer blahs :) | 16:50 |
| drc | year 'round.... | 16:51 |
| RFleming | I ask because I have my real machine, and several virtual all using xfce, and I'd like them to all behave and look the same. :) | 16:51 |
| RFleming | drc, they better be working on 4.14 :) | 16:51 |
| drc | They probably are...and let's hope it doesn't take as long as 4.10->4.12 :) | 16:52 |
| drc | That was long. | 16:53 |
| RFleming | looks like 4.14 isn't a huge update | 17:01 |
| RFleming | It's a large undertaking yes. The focus is moving to gtk+3 and replace dbus with gdbus | 17:03 |
| RFleming | https://wiki.xfce.org/releng/4.14/roadmap for those who are interested | 17:03 |
| drc | No idea, my involvement is limited to asking "Is it soup yet?". | 17:04 |
| drc | Several of the Xubuntu devs part time in xfce (or vice versa). | 17:04 |
| RFleming | Anyone else worried about Wayland? | 17:08 |
| RFleming | err Mir | 17:08 |
| knome | the xubuntu team did testing with mir ages ago already, and while it wasn't ready for production then, it worked | 17:09 |
| drc | nope, no need to wooy, either it will hapen or it won't, it'll work or it won't and I'll stick here or change distros. All in all it's a 1st World problem :) | 17:09 |
| drc | To my surprise, when I tried it as part of the test I had no problems. | 17:10 |
| RFleming | Mir is specifically to fulfill Canonical's desire for a unified manager across all of their platforms be it mobile, tablet or laptop correct? | 17:10 |
| drc | but then my hardware is pretty vanilla. | 17:10 |
| RFleming | Oh, and to have full control of its development | 17:10 |
| RFleming | does that sum it up? | 17:11 |
| drc | True, but that doesn't mean it can't work or even be good. I'll wait and see. | 17:11 |
| knome | only canonical can talk about their motives to control or not control something. | 17:12 |
| RFleming | we will see | 17:14 |
| RFleming | X definately is long in the tooth | 17:14 |
| Bruno_ | Hello, I need help. | 19:37 |
| Bruno_ | the 64 bit download says "amd" does it matter if i have a intel processor? | 19:38 |
| mrkramps | Bruno_, it does _not_ matter | 19:40 |
| mrkramps | this naming convention is pretty much an artifact | 19:41 |
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| max12345 | is there a way to make my system clock display like iso 8601 says? YYYY MM DD HH MM SS ? | 20:15 |
| max12345 | nvm found it | 20:18 |
| drc | %Y %B %d %H:%M:%S | 20:18 |
| drc | opps :) | 20:18 |
| drc | "man date" will give you all the flags needed | 20:19 |
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| === azeam_afk is now known as azeam | ||
| ScoDal | My xubuntu says at boot "System program problem detected" | 22:48 |
| ScoDal | This time at boot it said it twice I hit cancel twice, everything seems to run fine | 22:48 |
| ScoDal | What causes this? I'm tempted to reinstall xubuntu, is that the right course of action? I won't lose anything important | 22:49 |
| Unit193 | ls /var/crash/ | 22:49 |
| ScoDal | .................crap. teamviewer, 3 times | 22:57 |
| ScoDal | i knew they were flubbing with their linux version! they can't fool me. it quickly loads wine in the background, they didn't actually write a linux version of their software | 22:58 |
| ScoDal | well thank you for helping me understand. now i know a reinstall will bring me to the same place, if i continue to use teamviewer | 22:58 |
| Unit193 | Yep, and those are "unreportable" as it is a third party application. | 23:00 |
| ScoDal | how disappointed in them i am, they have done an amazing job cross windows / mac.. however oddly enough with it works well on linux with a few annoyances.. this explains the annoyances | 23:02 |
| RFleming | anyone know how to symlink files in xfce-perchannel-xml? Every time I symlink one of the config files (say the panel channel), as soon as I update my panels, the symlink is gone, and I'm left with a regular file again. | 23:38 |
| drc | RFleming: You're placing the link in xfce-perchannel-xml? What happens if you reverse it? | 23:42 |
| drc | The file in xfce-perchannel-xml should retai the same name when things change. | 23:43 |
| RFleming | yes. I want the real file elsewhere though, with the symlink inside xfce-perchannel-xml. I can get around symlinking the entire folder, but I don't want to because there are some channels I don't want to keep. | 23:44 |
| drc | And the link wouldn't be overwritten (I'm guessing one can't stop that) | 23:44 |
| RFleming | yes. I just wish to keep a couple of the channels in relation to 'look and feel' | 23:46 |
| === bazhang_ is now known as bazhang | ||
| RFleming | there are some that go beyond that, hence why I don't wish to sync those across. | 23:47 |
| RFleming | it doesn't matter though, as any change and xfconf blitzes the channel xml file and replaces it with a regular file | 23:47 |
| drc | Good luck, Its now officially beyond my paygrade. :) | 23:48 |
| RFleming | LOL | 23:48 |
| RFleming | I asked in #xfce and I was told that 'users shouldn't be touching channel files' | 23:49 |
| RFleming | *sigh* | 23:49 |
| drc | ah, must be defrocked debian devs :) | 23:49 |
| RFleming | but in a way they are correct. | 23:49 |
| RFleming | I'm sure using a different method to collect dotfiles and manage them, would yield differing results | 23:50 |
| RFleming | it's just that GNU stow is stupid simple. | 23:50 |
| drc | Well, time to ask if linking all the files/folder is worth it to get the ones you really want. | 23:50 |
| RFleming | questions and more questions | 23:51 |
| drc | and not an answer in sight :) | 23:51 |
| Unit193 | RFleming: Did you try a different link type? | 23:52 |
| RFleming | you mean hard vs soft? | 23:52 |
| Unit193 | -P / -L / -s, yeah,. | 23:53 |
| RFleming | unfortunately, there isn't that sort of control in stow | 23:53 |
| RFleming | (that I can see), they strictly use the standard symbolic link | 23:54 |
| RFleming | I guess there's always dropbox for xfce channels | 23:56 |
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