[01:17] hello [01:17] o/ [01:17] I am very new at this and trying to upgrade [01:18] A thinkpad T42 from 9.04 Unbuntu to 12.0 gui [01:19] on restart, I get that [01:19] "there is a word wrong in header and 'boot:' prompt [01:24] hello [01:24] hello [01:28] need help upgrading older installation. boot files not loading properly. [01:28] xubuntu93w: It sounds like you have already tried and things got borked? [01:30] maybe [01:30] maybe? you don't know? [01:30] getting, "word wrong in header"? [01:30] boot: [01:31] can get into and using 9.04 unbuntu gui now [01:32] !eolupgrade [01:32] End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades [01:32] OK. 1) Trying to upgrade from 9,04 is futile. 2) if you did try (as it looks like from your prior posts, then trying to fix things is even more futile. [01:32] i would just fresh install.. [01:32] you'll want a backup, regardless.. [01:32] xubuntu93w: The best thing to do it install uptodate Xubuntu from scratch. [01:33] best/easiest/cleanest/safest.. [01:33] +fastest :) [01:33] tried from dvd with above ^^^^results. [01:33] xubuntu93w: Tried what? [01:33] it's a old T42 thinkpad [01:34] xubuntu93w: if you cant get a live DVD to run on the hardware, the upgrade wont work, either [01:34] xubuntu93w: i suggest, load up a 14.04, or 15.04 live iso, and address whatever issues are happening.. [01:34] when you get the live iso working on the thinkpad, you can then install [01:35] can I burn that to thumbd drive? [01:35] yes [01:35] xubuntu93w: you are saying, you already did, correct? [01:36] anyone know where I find 'live' version to load on thumb drive? [01:36] xubuntu93w: its the normal, live installation iso [01:37] xubuntu93w: the installer *is* live.. meaning, you can run it live, before installing. you can burn do DVD, or, dd copy to usb stick [01:37] xubuntu93w: it's the same iso for dvd and usb. Do you need the url again? [01:37] !install [01:37] Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall - Don't want to use a CD? See http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate [01:38] I will look at these. Thanks so much === JeZxLee_ is now known as JeZxLee [03:48] Hi [03:49] there is no bspwm in repo ? [06:15] knome: xfpanel-switch now at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/wily/+queue?queue_state=0&queue_text= [06:16] knome: Unit193: the only diff being http://paste.ubuntu.com/12133680/ [06:16] the gtk just because I tried installing it on 14.04 LTS and noticed [06:18] Mirv: Hello kind sir! [06:19] Mirv: Thanks muchly! Though our development channel is #xubuntu-devel, won't get lost as easily. [06:19] oh, oh :) === Guest81512 is now known as IdleOne === kevin is now known as Skeletbossen [08:58] I am trying to start xfwm4 with gdb but no luck even tried attaching it to a pid and it locks up [08:59] which requires I do CTRL+ALT+1 for tty1 to kill the pid of gdb [09:02] trying to get a backtrace from [09:02] xfwm4 crashed with sigsegv in set_reload() [09:06] this says its a dupe of a private bug? [09:06] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfwm4/+bug/1416818 [09:06] Error: Could not gather data from Launchpad for bug #1416818 (https://launchpad.net/bugs/1416818). The error has been logged [09:20] http://pastebin.com/yp3DaZ8p [09:21] contains crash log -- xfwm4 crashed with SIGSEGV in set_reload() [09:30] Hi! [09:31] Does Xubuntu 14.04 LTS support UEFI+Secure Boot? [09:31] I want to install it parallel (on a second HDD) to Windows 8.1 Pro [10:11] hi everyone [10:12] can somebody help me out with my problem in my new xubuntu set up [10:12] i just installed xubuntu 32-bit on my eee pc [10:13] but when i connect my usb hard drive it would not detect it [10:14] does LVM have anything to do with this?as this is the first time i have tried installing a distro with LVM enabled [10:14] the format of my usb hard is in ntfs [10:18] hello?anyone here? [10:31] f0xtr0t-qwerty-k, ntfs might be the issue there. I used an eee pc for years before but only used USB drives with FAT32. [10:34] f0xtr0t-qwerty-k, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2233326 unless you have already tried that? [10:40] Thanks @cub i'm sure it [10:41] i'm sure it's not the ntfs issue coz before i did a fresh install on my eee pc i was using xubuntu on it with the same hard drive [10:41] the only difference was the LVM enabled feature during the installation [10:41] any idea? [10:42] i actually don't see it in my fdisk -l which worries me [10:43] i could show you the fdisk output if you like [10:46] f0xtr0t-qwerty-k, but the previous installation perhaps had the ntfs-3g added already? [10:47] that could be it [10:47] hmm let me check if it is installed [10:48] thanks again cub :D [10:50] welll i could see ntfs-3g is installed [10:51] but i still can't see it in my fdisk output so i can't mount it even with ntfs-3g [10:51] unless i'm missing something hmmm [10:51] f0xtr0t-qwerty-k, I'm out then. I was my hope it would be easy. :D [10:51] haha thanks cub for trying i guess ill keep on looking around :D [10:58] There are other people here with better knowledge than me so. [11:02] this is the output i got guys [11:03] Disk /dev/sda: 750.2 GB, 750156374016 bytes [11:03] 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 91201 cylinders, total 1465149168 sectors [11:03] Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes [11:03] Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes [11:03] I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes [11:03] Disk identifier: 0x000abb5e [15:12] hello guys [15:12] I'm thinkin in move to xubuntu [15:13] And your question is...? [15:17] does it worth it? [15:17] :p [15:17] n-iCe, you're asking #xubuntu if xubuntu is good? [15:18] No, not at all Seriously, you come to a Xubuntu support channel and then ask " does it worth it?". [15:18] knome: yeah [15:19] I bet a lot of you have used xubuntu and are using a different distro [15:19] I do it sometimes, because I have good friends in other distro channels :D [15:19] But, hell, gonna try it, brb in xubuntu, I'm currently using archlinux + xfce [15:19] kisses! [15:19] n-iCe, yes. And if you don't like it, install something else. [15:19] ok [15:43] hello, I'm back in xubuntu, good looking. [16:27] Greetings! How does one efficiently use GNU Stow (or any other symlink farm manager) for storing XFCE4 settings (a la dotfile management)? [16:36] Seeing as how no one's answering (and I have no idea either), I'd try #gnu...the topic says thst the right place to ask about any gnu-related item. [16:41] drc, thanks. I know how to use stow, it's xfce which I'm having issues with as it appears to erase and write new files (breaking my symlinked files). [16:42] ah, sorry. [16:43] drc, no worries :) [16:46] Just out of curiosity, what files does it appear to be overwriting? [16:47] RFleming: ^^ [16:47] pointers.xml, xfce4-panel.xml [16:47] xfce4-applications.xml [16:48] pretty much any file I symlink, then make a change in xfce disappears to be replaced with a new file [16:48] I was using the stow --adopt option which overwrites existing files with symlinks, but maintains the pre-existing folder structure. [16:49] I AM using [16:50] interesting...well, you aslo might try #xfce. [16:50] I have posed the question there. They are... erm... slow to respond there :) [16:50] yeah...it's the summer blahs :) [16:51] year 'round.... [16:51] I ask because I have my real machine, and several virtual all using xfce, and I'd like them to all behave and look the same. :) [16:51] drc, they better be working on 4.14 :) [16:52] They probably are...and let's hope it doesn't take as long as 4.10->4.12 :) [16:53] That was long. [17:01] looks like 4.14 isn't a huge update [17:03] It's a large undertaking yes. The focus is moving to gtk+3 and replace dbus with gdbus [17:03] https://wiki.xfce.org/releng/4.14/roadmap for those who are interested [17:04] No idea, my involvement is limited to asking "Is it soup yet?". [17:04] Several of the Xubuntu devs part time in xfce (or vice versa). [17:08] Anyone else worried about Wayland? [17:08] err Mir [17:09] the xubuntu team did testing with mir ages ago already, and while it wasn't ready for production then, it worked [17:09] nope, no need to wooy, either it will hapen or it won't, it'll work or it won't and I'll stick here or change distros. All in all it's a 1st World problem :) [17:10] To my surprise, when I tried it as part of the test I had no problems. [17:10] Mir is specifically to fulfill Canonical's desire for a unified manager across all of their platforms be it mobile, tablet or laptop correct? [17:10] but then my hardware is pretty vanilla. [17:10] Oh, and to have full control of its development [17:11] does that sum it up? [17:11] True, but that doesn't mean it can't work or even be good. I'll wait and see. [17:12] only canonical can talk about their motives to control or not control something. [17:14] we will see [17:14] X definately is long in the tooth [19:37] Hello, I need help. [19:38] the 64 bit download says "amd" does it matter if i have a intel processor? [19:40] Bruno_, it does _not_ matter [19:41] this naming convention is pretty much an artifact === WolfpupL_ is now known as WolfpupL [20:15] is there a way to make my system clock display like iso 8601 says? YYYY MM DD HH MM SS ? [20:18] nvm found it [20:18] %Y %B %d %H:%M:%S [20:18] opps :) [20:19] "man date" will give you all the flags needed === azeam_afk is now known as azeam === azeam_afk is now known as azeam [22:48] My xubuntu says at boot "System program problem detected" [22:48] This time at boot it said it twice I hit cancel twice, everything seems to run fine [22:49] What causes this? I'm tempted to reinstall xubuntu, is that the right course of action? I won't lose anything important [22:49] ls /var/crash/ [22:57] .................crap. teamviewer, 3 times [22:58] i knew they were flubbing with their linux version! they can't fool me. it quickly loads wine in the background, they didn't actually write a linux version of their software [22:58] well thank you for helping me understand. now i know a reinstall will bring me to the same place, if i continue to use teamviewer [23:00] Yep, and those are "unreportable" as it is a third party application. [23:02] how disappointed in them i am, they have done an amazing job cross windows / mac.. however oddly enough with it works well on linux with a few annoyances.. this explains the annoyances [23:38] anyone know how to symlink files in xfce-perchannel-xml? Every time I symlink one of the config files (say the panel channel), as soon as I update my panels, the symlink is gone, and I'm left with a regular file again. [23:42] RFleming: You're placing the link in xfce-perchannel-xml? What happens if you reverse it? [23:43] The file in xfce-perchannel-xml should retai the same name when things change. [23:44] yes. I want the real file elsewhere though, with the symlink inside xfce-perchannel-xml. I can get around symlinking the entire folder, but I don't want to because there are some channels I don't want to keep. [23:44] And the link wouldn't be overwritten (I'm guessing one can't stop that) [23:46] yes. I just wish to keep a couple of the channels in relation to 'look and feel' === bazhang_ is now known as bazhang [23:47] there are some that go beyond that, hence why I don't wish to sync those across. [23:47] it doesn't matter though, as any change and xfconf blitzes the channel xml file and replaces it with a regular file [23:48] Good luck, Its now officially beyond my paygrade. :) [23:48] LOL [23:49] I asked in #xfce and I was told that 'users shouldn't be touching channel files' [23:49] *sigh* [23:49] ah, must be defrocked debian devs :) [23:49] but in a way they are correct. [23:50] I'm sure using a different method to collect dotfiles and manage them, would yield differing results [23:50] it's just that GNU stow is stupid simple. [23:50] Well, time to ask if linking all the files/folder is worth it to get the ones you really want. [23:51] questions and more questions [23:51] and not an answer in sight :) [23:52] RFleming: Did you try a different link type? [23:52] you mean hard vs soft? [23:53] -P / -L / -s, yeah,. [23:53] unfortunately, there isn't that sort of control in stow [23:54] (that I can see), they strictly use the standard symbolic link [23:56] I guess there's always dropbox for xfce channels