[06:09] <lordievader> Good morning.
[07:20] <soee> good morning
[08:58] <sitter> Riddell: kmbox still fails to upload to unstable https://launchpadlibrarian.net/215193259/upload_7823728_log.txt
[09:01] <sitter> Riddell: unstable kcontacts_15.08.0+git20150821.0830+15.10-0.dsc: Version older than that in the archive. 15.08.0+git20150821.0830+15.10-0 <= 4:15.07.90+git20150820.0806+15.10-0
[09:02] <sitter> in unstable kamoso_3.0.0~rc1+git20150820.0210+15.04-0.dsc: Version older than that in the archive. 3.0.0~rc1+git20150820.0210+15.04-0 <= 3.0.0+git20150804.1622+15.04-0
[09:30] <Riddell> sitter: hmm ok, removing
[10:06] <soee> shouldnt teh final Plasma 5.4 be released yesterday ?
[10:13] <Riddell> soee: I sent tars to packagers, release is on tuesday
[10:13] <clivejo> Riddell: it on depot?
[10:14] <Riddell> clivejo: yep :)
[10:14] <soee> ah im always confused with tars release and official 
[10:14] <clivejo> are you staging it?
[10:15] <Riddell> most release people call tar day tag day but the git tags aren't pushed until tuesday, it's slightly confusing either way
[10:15] <Riddell> clivejo: nope, the task is open :)
[10:15] <Riddell> clivejo: I don't suppose you got a response from debian-qt-kde team?
[10:15] <clivejo> got the last few manual apps to fix
[10:16] <clivejo> yofel helped me with few last night
[10:16] <clivejo> the patches on kde4lib stumped me
[10:17] <clivejo> you time today to get the last few sorted?
[10:18] <Riddell> clivejo: do you know if he put them into debian git?
[10:18] <Riddell> yeah I should do, just make sure we coordinate so we don't overlap
[10:18] <clivejo> I think so
[10:18] <clivejo> what are you working on at the minute?
[10:18] <Riddell> I'm compiling libkgapi and looking at my gsoc student's patch so unrelated
[10:19]  * clivejo hops on to EC
[10:21] <clivejo> Riddell: no word from debain git
[10:22] <clivejo> Riddell: is this the packaging for kde-l10n - http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/kde-sc/kde-l10n.git/
[10:23] <Riddell> clivejo: that's rather special in the way it's done, this page says how https://community.kde.org/Kubuntu/Packaging/L10nOperatorGuide
[10:24] <clivejo> LOL  it is better to push and revert than not push at all! 
[10:39] <sitter> Riddell: btw it looked as though for example kdepim-runtime was not merged from stable 
[10:39] <sitter> also it was lacking a changelog entry in general I think
[11:08] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[12:11] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: this one is for you: http://www.wimp.com/instrument-brain/
[13:08] <Riddell> clivejo: yay you have debian access!
[13:08] <clivejo> news to me
[13:09] <clivejo> dont I get an email or something?1
[13:10] <Riddell> clivejo: dunno, you may want to join #debian-qt-kde on oftc
[13:10] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: neat stuff, I play because I needed a disconnect :P
[13:10] <clivejo> I cant, keeps forwarding me
[13:11] <clivejo> 470 #debian-qt-kde ##debian-qt-kde Forwarding to another channel
[13:12] <Riddell> asking..
[13:12] <clivejo> how do I ask if I cant get into the channel?
[13:13] <clivejo> oh you are asking
[13:13] <Riddell> yep
 that happens when you try on freenode iirc
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 (channel forwarding doesn't exist on oftc)
[13:14] <Riddell> clivejo: so make sure to join OFTC and join on that network
[13:14] <lisandro> irc.oftc.net iirc (or even irc.debian.org )
[13:15] <clivejo> ah
[13:15] <clivejo> can I use alias?
[13:25] <Riddell> clivejo: how do you mean?
[13:25] <yofel> name alias, see oftc
[13:26] <clivejo> got it sorted thanks
[13:33] <Riddell> clivejo: dunno I'm not on it yet
[13:34] <Riddell> I'm looking at update_excuses
[13:34] <Riddell> and wondering what to do about kdenlive not compiling on arm https://launchpadlibrarian.net/214829299/buildlog_ubuntu-wily-armhf.kdenlive_4%3A15.07.90-0ubuntu1_BUILDING.txt.gz
[13:34] <Riddell> do I just make it not compile on arm?
[13:34] <yofel> again?
[13:35] <yofel> wait
[13:35] <yofel> /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/mesa-egl/libGLESv2.so.2: error adding symbols: DSO missing from command line
[13:35] <yofel> sounds like missing -lGLESv2 or so
[13:38] <clivejo> Im going to need help with kde-l10n, its double dutch to me
[13:39] <Riddell> clivejo: where are you at?
[13:39] <clivejo> reading the "guide" you sent me
[13:40] <yofel> should be only adding a changelog and running 2 scripts
[13:40] <yofel> we could also try to migrate to the debian source, which is one of those bazillion-tarballs-in-one-source-package things
[13:42] <Riddell> clivejo: run dch and add a new changelog
[13:43] <Riddell> clivejo: setting release to wily
[13:44] <clivejo> hows that?
[13:45] <Riddell> clivejo: lovely
[13:46] <clivejo> my internet is driving me crazy
[13:47] <clivejo> do I need to push that change back to debian git?
[13:49] <yofel> no, just to launchpad
[13:49] <Riddell> bzr diff  then bzr commit
[13:51] <clivejo> What do I put as commit message?
[13:51] <Riddell> clivejo: that'll do
[13:54] <clivejo> Riddell: what next? run the scripts
[13:54] <Riddell> clivejo: you got it
[13:56] <clivejo> Riddell: is access to the EC slow today?
[13:56] <Riddell> clivejo: I don't think so
[13:56] <Riddell> not for me
[13:56] <clivejo> its taking 5-50seconds for what I type to appear
[13:57] <clivejo> but only on the ec
[13:58] <Riddell> erk
[13:58] <Riddell> no that's not the case for me
[13:59] <clivejo> gonna try relogging
[14:01] <clivejo> Riddell: BOLERPLATE NEEDS GENREICIFICATION 
[14:03] <yofel> ignore that, that's just harald reminding everyone since years ago that this would be a good idea
[14:04] <clivejo> what has it done?
[14:05] <yofel> actually, where was that from again?
[14:06] <clivejo> https://code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kde-l10n-common
[14:11] <soee> uh oh, with all those dependency problems i was able to update some pacages and have this Application Dashboard now :)
[14:12] <clivejo> soee: the full screen kickoff thingie?
[14:12] <soee> yes
[14:13] <clivejo> what package is it?
[14:14] <soee> i have installed: plasma-dataengines-addons
[14:14] <soee> it isntalled also: kdeplasma-addons-data kwin-addons libscim8v5 plasma-runners-addons plasma-wallpapers-addons plasma-widget-kimpanel plasma-widgets-addons
[14:18] <clivejo> apparently I have that package
[14:18] <clivejo> how do you enable it?
[14:19] <soee> clivejo: it is available as an alternative 
[14:20] <soee> or add it as widget 
[14:20] <soee> its called Application Dashboard
[14:20] <clivejo> so it is!
[14:20] <clivejo> that wasnt there last time I looked!
[14:20] <soee> ;)
[14:21] <clivejo> its displaying on the wrong screen though
[14:27] <soee> oh i'm on laptop so can't est it on multiple screens
[14:28] <soee> clivejo: but maybe worth writring bug report
[14:29] <clivejo> mightnt be a bug
[14:29] <clivejo> seems to follow where my last active window was
[14:30] <soee> [16:29] <d_ed> soee: there's one reported, yes
[14:30] <soee> clivejo: join #plasma
[14:40] <Riddell> clivejo: I pushed the change, go ahead with running the script
[14:40] <clivejo> Riddell: what was wrong?
[14:40] <Riddell> clivejo: I just ran bzr push
[14:41] <clivejo> ok
[14:41] <Riddell> clivejo: with bzr you can either checkout in which case a bzr commit will sent it to the server (like svn) or you can branch in which case you need an additional bzr push (like git)
[14:41] <clivejo> so I branched it?
[14:41] <Riddell> I guess so
[14:45] <clivejo> wow german is a big file
[14:45] <Riddell> lots of germans use kde :)
[14:46] <Riddell> and you know german, they like their long words
[14:47] <soee> 15.08.0 apps wont be released for Wily ? we have to wait for 15.08.10 ?
[14:48] <Riddell> ignore that, my typo
[14:48] <clivejo> soee: http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ppa-status/applications/build_status_15.08.0_wily.html
[14:51] <clivejo> Riddell: bzr: ERROR: The build failed.
[14:52] <clivejo> lots of errors in that script
[14:52] <yofel> bzr?
[14:54] <Riddell> dpkg-checkbuilddeps: Unmet build dependencies: extra-cmake-modules kdoctools-dev libkf5i│···················································································
[14:54] <Riddell> 18n-dev qttools5-dev qttools5-dev-tools
[14:54] <Riddell> clivejo: try installing them I guess
[14:55] <clivejo> Riddell: E: Unable to locate package 18n-dev
[14:55] <Riddell> well obviously fix my copy and paste :)
[14:56] <clivejo> this is too slow
[14:56] <clivejo> I cant use it properly today
[14:57] <Riddell> bother slow internets
[14:58] <yofel> wait, why is that script calling dpkg-buildpackage -S?
[14:59] <clivejo> sorry, I cant handle this
[14:59] <yofel> I'm trying something
[14:59] <clivejo> Im just seeing flashes on the screen
[14:59] <yofel> weird, you're using konsole and bash?
[14:59] <clivejo> random nonsense
[15:00] <Riddell> clivejo: I see the script running good here
[15:00] <yofel> that was me ^^
[15:00] <yofel> but yeah, here it works fine as well
[15:00] <yofel> actually, let me try konsole5
[15:00] <clivejo> I can see it downloading stuff
[15:01] <yofel> yeah, konsole5 is fine too
[15:01] <clivejo> but if there is too much scrolling it just goes to random characters
[15:02] <clivejo> why is sed failing?
[15:03] <yofel> IIRC because not all packages have all files it looks for
[15:05] <yofel> anyway, someone commit the change I made later
[15:05] <yofel> debuild != dpkg-buildpackage
[15:09] <soee> what do you think: http://wstaw.org/m/2015/08/21/dashboard.png ?
[15:10] <clivejo> looks good soee
[15:27] <Riddell> clivejo: looking good, I'm signing
[15:33] <clivejo> did it do it?
[15:34] <Riddell> clivejo: still signing...
[15:34] <clivejo> Riddell: could you commit yofel's change?
[15:34] <Riddell> clivejo: where's that?
[15:34] <clivejo> Im giving up for today
[15:34] <Riddell> and can't yofel?
[15:34] <clivejo> in the script
[15:35] <Riddell> thanks for your help clivejo, have a restful friday :)
[15:35] <yofel> I'm not in the shell anymore
[15:35] <clivejo> not in great form today
[15:35] <clivejo> and this internet is just the final straw
[15:36] <Riddell> yes slow internets causes brain damage
[15:36] <allee> clivejo: did you find the time to give kconf_updaet a try?
[15:36] <clivejo> giving me a headache all right
[15:36] <clivejo> allee: no sorry I didnt
[15:37] <allee> clivejo: no problem!
[15:37] <clivejo> allee: I think it needs to go upstream
[15:38] <clivejo> Invited to a BBQ in the pouring rain.  I must be mad! 
[15:38] <allee> clivejo: :-)
[15:50] <yofel> those that frequently debug boot issues might find this interesting: https://summit.debconf.org/debconf15/meeting/305/your-systemd-tool-box-dissecting-and-debugging-boot-and-services/
[15:50] <yofel> starts in 10min
[20:16] <[Relic]> 2
[22:38] <clivejo> Riddell: did you shutdown the EC?
[22:38] <Riddell> clivejo: yeah I tidied the rest up and threw them into the staging ppa and shut it down
[22:39] <clivejo> wow, wasnt expecting a reply!
[22:39] <Riddell> various bits to be tidied at http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ppa-status/applications/build_status_15.08.0_wily.html
[22:39] <Riddell> and now you have rights to do it all yourself if I'm not mistaken
[22:39] <Riddell> you can commit to pkg-kde git
[22:39] <clivejo> do I have permission to upload to staging?
[22:39] <Riddell> and you can upload to staging-kdeapplications
[22:40] <clivejo> what commands do I use to commit to pkg-kde git?
[22:41] <yofel> git as usual, but with git.debian.org as server and your alioth username as username
[22:41] <yofel> so, clivejo-guest or whatever
[22:41] <Riddell> clivejo: I put this in my .gitconfig https://paste.kde.org/pvlajqivg
[22:42] <yofel> hm fancy, I splitted that between .gitconfig and .ssh/config ^^
[22:42] <Riddell> kubuntu-dev-tools has kgit in it which does the clone and checkout in 1 command so you start off using the right branch
[22:43] <Riddell> don't update the changelog if you're just putting it in a ppa
[22:43] <Riddell> instead use git-buildpackage-ppa -s X from kubuntu-automation
[22:43] <Riddell> where is is the number you want to put in your ppa upload ~ppa2 or whatever
[22:43] <Riddell> where X is the number you want to put in your ppa upload ~ppa2 or whatever
[22:44] <Riddell> oh I also put this in ~/.bashrc    alias dputstagingapplications='dput ppa:kubuntu-ppa/staging-kdeapplications'
[22:44] <Riddell> then I can do    dputstagingapplications foo.changes
[22:44] <yofel> Riddell: hm, I don't see him having upload rights for kubuntu-ppa. If you're +1 I'll add him to ninjas
[22:45] <Riddell> yofel: he's in ~kubuntu-packagers
[22:45] <clivejo> Riddell: Ill use the full commands until Im bit more experienced
[22:45] <Riddell> hmm that might not be enough
[22:45] <yofel> it is not
[22:45] <yofel> I'll add him
[22:45] <Riddell> yofel: yes please add to ninjas
[22:45] <clivejo> typing them out helps it sink in
[22:46] <yofel> clivejo: you're now a ninja, and ofc. don't tell anybody, we don't exist ;P
[22:46] <clivejo> do we have a secret handshake?
[22:47] <Riddell> a secret ninja hug
[22:48] <yofel> clivejo: you now also have access to the private ninja PPA, which we sometimes use for unreleased stuff. Apt setup is explained in the PPA description
[22:49] <clivejo> Riddell: are you working on plasma?
[22:49] <Riddell> clivejo: nope
[22:49] <Riddell> still marshalling 15.07.90 through into wily
[22:49] <yofel> clivejo: and as I said yesterday, be careful when uploading anything to the non-staging kubuntu ppa's
[22:49] <Riddell> these powerpc builds are holding it up
[22:49] <yofel> other than that, welcome :)
[22:50] <clivejo> yofel: sure, and thanks for the trust :)
[22:50] <clivejo> I dont intend doing anything without you guys saying so
[22:51] <clivejo> but if I can help out and take the pressure off give me a shout
[22:56] <clivejo> kalarmcal relies on kcalc by the looks of it, now thats been built a retry will probably solve it.  Can I do that now?
[22:56] <yofel> yes
[22:56] <yofel> just click on the architecture link, and you should see a retry button
[22:57] <clivejo> would it not be helpful to open the links on the QA page in a new tab/window?
[22:58] <yofel> probably, I always do that by hand so I never bothered to add that
[22:58] <clivejo> menu click and open in new tab?
[22:58] <yofel> middle-mouse-button-click, which is why I don't care
[22:59] <yofel> or rather I have the flexibility to NOT open it in a new tab that way, but if you want to add that go ahead
[23:01] <clivejo> just an observation
[23:24] <clivejo> ah fiddle sticks
[23:25] <clivejo> kcalccore has symbol issues
[23:25] <clivejo> yet showing as yellow?
[23:27] <clivejo> yofel Riddell : can you shed some light on why this error message is being displayed - https://paste.kde.org/papxbypr1
[23:28] <yofel> o.O
[23:28] <yofel> invalid syntax would be my first guess
[23:28] <yofel> clivejo: new symbols are yellow, missing ones are red
[23:29] <clivejo> yofel: how would i fix that?
[23:29] <yofel> just run pkgkde-symbolshelper with the buildlogs as usual. As nothing is missing that's all you have to do
[23:29] <yofel> as for that build log, uhm...
[23:30] <clivejo> sorry I meant the syntax
[23:30] <clivejo> thats part of the source
[23:31] <Riddell> kde-baseapps looks like an upstream issue, maybe we need a newer cmake or something or maybe it's a mistake
[23:32] <clivejo> would you write a patch to correct the mistake temp?
[23:40] <clivejo> stupid Hash Sum mismatch!