[00:01] <holstein> OvenWerks: seems like, it would be duplication, right?
[00:01] <holstein> i agree with that.. that, doing a PPA is already being done.. but, if we are always going to be seen as, not as good as kxstudio, or avlinux, then, do we need to, or can we address that?
[00:02] <holstein> i think, we always have the ubuntu brand, and repos in our corner, so to speak..
[00:02] <holstein> OvenWerks: what do you, personally, think about an LTS only iso?
[00:13] <holstein> personally, i consider stalking the #ardour channel, and addressing anti-ubuntustudio comments to be PR
[00:28] <OvenWerks> holstein: I actually think with enough people either way can work. Make the in between releases good enough for production or keep the LTS up to date.
[00:29] <holstein> OvenWerks: personally, i dont think it would take that much more help..
[00:29] <OvenWerks> kx is based on LTS and the audio apps are built against them
[00:30] <OvenWerks> Falk watches LAA and some of the faster moving IRC channels and updtaes the apps as soon as new versions are out
[00:30] <OvenWerks> *updates even
[00:30] <holstein> yup.. but would that be something we would even want to do?
[00:31] <holstein> seems like, we could break something, pretty quick, or, end up needing to fix other packages, or deps.. but, maybe its easier than that, and just a lack of man power
[00:31] <OvenWerks> The best we could do would be to see about getting tings from debian to the LTS via backports.
[00:33] <holstein> i know, backporting should be relatively easy.. im just not sure that i will even be able to address that, at least, anytime in the near future..
[00:33] <OvenWerks> Ardour4.2 just works on anything because it ships with extra libs. but I can build it on 14.04 with not much trouble too
[00:33] <holstein> anyways, backporting doesnt seem like something that would take amazing coders to show up..
[00:33] <OvenWerks> just time.
[00:33] <holstein> seems like, we could just target a few key ones.. as well
[00:34] <holstein> having the most recent ardour,.. although, step one, at #ardour is "if you have a problem, build ours from git, then we talk about support"...
[00:34] <holstein> we cant compete with that, for sure.. and likely dont need to
[00:35] <OvenWerks> #ardour will support the latest release as well.
[00:35] <holstein> the latest, thats not our "repackaged" one.. AFAIK
[00:36] <holstein> anyways, providing the latest stable release would be ideal.. do you think that would break anything?
[01:11] <OvenWerks> our latest one in wiley is 4.0 (package name ardour3)  :P
[01:12] <OvenWerks> in the lts it is the very last 3.5
[01:12] <holstein> it would be nice to have that backport into the LTS
[01:12] <holstein> since, its supported a bit more.. and all that
[01:12] <holstein> but, again.. is anyone using it? 
[01:12] <holstein> i mean, i do, but, i just get it from ardour..
[01:13] <OvenWerks> All of my bug fixes are 4.1 and beyond  ;)
[01:15] <micahg> if you need stuff backported, I can help with uploading, just follow the testing listed when creating the backports bug with requestbackport
[01:18] <OvenWerks> micahg: Thankyou, I think ardour 4.0 is the last one we should BP. I will download the src and play with it. In 4.1 they add trim which shouldn't break anything, but it does change the session a bit.
[01:19] <OvenWerks> 4.0 is a bugfix for 3.5 more than anything.
[05:39] <zequence> bug 1487137
[06:47] <zequence> OvenWerks: I'm thinking we should wait until 4.2
[06:47] <zequence> Once it's packaged in Debian (hopefully very soon), we can request a sync to Wily, and then backport it
[06:48] <zequence> We'll need to backport first to 15.04, then to 14.04
[08:53] <cub> Good morning, I read up on the irc logs and want to pitch in on the PR and community bit
[08:54] <cub> I have had a wish and thoughts on using the social channels more to grow the community and get the word out more. There are people who show up on Facebook etc but with more activity I think that would be beneficial
[08:54] <cub> However, I was also holding back due to not being able to commit time or know how much or little I would be able to pitch in
[08:55] <cub> but, perhaps even a small amount of PR, social activity is better than none. So if possible I could get access to the different channels and try to make use of them
[08:56] <cub> it's easier for me to use small breaks of time to check up and communicate, than to wait for a larger amount of time and do like extensive testing.
[08:56] <cub> What I can't really contribute nowadays is on the forums as I have not used the platform for audio or video work in quite some time, so my support skills are rusty at best.
[08:57] <cub> anyways, let me know. Gotta go entertain my daughter. :D
[09:04] <zequence> cub, it would make sense for more people to have access, yes. I'll look into that
[12:42] <cub> I think we could push the interview zequence did and the article that was posted recently on the Ubuntu Studio channels. Maybe evaluate which social channels we should focus on and if different information should be targeted at different channels. G+ is considered more technical than Facebook. And how about Snapchat to snap the younger generations?
[12:43] <cub> It's good with spread, but too many channels and it becomes too much to keep everything flowing and might water out the information
[12:43] <zequence> Yes, I was intending to post the interview. And, it would be good for us to get more interviews with more team members
[12:43] <cub> So rather have few with good and relevant postings
[12:43] <zequence> I always post the same stuff on all of them
[12:44] <zequence> I usually do the actual article on our website, and post the link on the different social channels
[12:44] <cub> yeah makes sense
[12:45] <cub> I noticed that the changes I made to the website branch is not live yet?
[12:46] <cub> Anyone heard from madeinkobaya recently?
[12:47] <zequence> Ah, I just haven't asked to have it uploaded
[12:47] <zequence> I was thinking we should revamp the site for the release of the next LTS. I'll see how much time I will have for that
[12:47] <zequence> Been some time since I heard from madein
[12:48] <cub> Ok, I was thinking of the very light grey comments and links
[12:48] <zequence> I'll contact him soon and ask if he's willing to do some stuff for X
[12:48] <cub> It would be nice with some updates graphically
[12:49] <zequence> It's pizza day today, btw
[12:49] <zequence> Every other friday in this family :)
[12:50] <cub> haha I'm doing iTrim and do one free meal day a week which is tomorrow
[12:50] <cub> so mabye pizza then
[12:51] <zequence> I try to run, but my knee has been bothering me last 2 1/2 years.
[12:51] <zequence> I run maybe twice a week now. Get the pump pumping
[12:52] <cub> bummer, I damaged my knee last year just before Stockholm Marathon, haven't run much since then
[12:52] <zequence> I might not be very active during the weekend. I can spend the whole weekdays for Ubuntu Studio now, so that is basically my day time job currently
[12:52] <cub> cool
[12:52] <cub> well, good for ubuntu studio but maybe not that great for you=
[12:53] <cub> zequence, did you see the Xubuntu tracker? http://tracker.xubuntu.org/
[12:53] <zequence> As long as I can get whatever I want to get done within a couple of months. That's what I'm aiming for. Max three.
[12:54] <zequence> Cool
[12:54] <cub> I don't know if they pull that from blueprints, Trello or otherwise
[12:54] <cub> but if/when there start to be many things to do it could be useful
[12:55] <zequence> It looks very useful
[12:55] <zequence> The calendar is a nice addition. I have set up one for us, but haven't really maintained it
[12:56] <zequence> The calendar is not showing for me though
[12:56] <zequence> Ah, I had a blocker on
[12:57] <zequence> It's actually one of the most useful parts, I think. Especially if all people involved sync to it and have alarms and what else to make sure they are available for different stuff
[12:58] <cub> That would be good
[12:58] <cub> I don't see a calendar either?
[12:59] <zequence> Are you using some sort of cookie blocker?
[12:59] <cub> is it on the xubuntu tracker page?
[12:59] <cub> I shouldn't have anything but Adblocker
[12:59] <zequence> http://tracker.xubuntu.org/#tab-calendar
[13:00] <zequence> google calendar
[13:00] <cub> hmm nope
[13:00] <cub> are you using chromium or other browser?
[13:01] <zequence> maybe google is blocking you?
[13:01] <zequence> I always use FF
[13:01] <zequence> I best tend to weekend matters. Cheerio
[13:01] <cub> see ya
[13:02] <cub> hmm right, I get two more tabs in FF than in Chromium.
[23:37] <micahg> zequence: since 14.10 is now EOL, you can skip backporting through 15.04 since there's not a supported upgrade path from 14.04 to 15.04 anymore