| micahg | bluesabre: yeah, I have to hack up the packageset generation script | 00:35 |
|---|---|---|
| micahg | bluesabre: something I can upload for you? | 00:35 |
| bluesabre | micahg: yeah, I can upload to a ppa if you want to pick it out of there? | 01:03 |
| bluesabre | micahg: uploaded shimmer-themes to https://launchpad.net/~bluesabre/+archive/ubuntu/sponsoring/+packages, still building there | 01:07 |
| micahg | sure, thanks | 01:14 |
| bluesabre | thanks micahg :) | 01:14 |
| micahg | I'm sorry I haven't fixed it yet, still playing catch up | 01:15 |
| bluesabre | micahg: np, we're managing fairly well around here | 01:17 |
| micahg | bluesabre: can you take a look at the blueman merge, I'm not 100% sure about the python patch that we're carrying, we'll need an FFE at this point to get it in | 01:18 |
| micahg | I assume we'd like it this cycle | 01:18 |
| micahg | ? | 01:18 |
| bluesabre | micahg: yeah, I'll take a look | 01:19 |
| bluesabre | new blueman would be a nice bonus | 01:19 |
| * bluesabre has a bluetooth mouse and headphones | 01:20 | |
| micahg | thanks, justification for FFe bluez5 just landed last week (or so) and blueman needed that or obexd (which was removed from Debian) | 01:20 |
| bluesabre | micahg: taking a look at the merge, looks like we can drop 03_filemanager_fix.patch, and then we might (or not) need to provide a config for org.blueman.transfer.browse-command in x-d-s | 02:24 |
| micahg | ok, sounds like that should be tested before it's uploaded, did you already prepare a merge or just look at the patch? | 02:27 |
| bluesabre | looked at the merge, tried applying the patch, then looked at the code | 02:28 |
| bluesabre | in apps/blueman-browse this is the code that makes this all work (line 55) | 02:28 |
| bluesabre | try: | 02:28 |
| bluesabre | if conf["browse-command"]: | 02:28 |
| bluesabre | launch(conf["browse-command"].replace("%d", addr), system=True, name="blueman") | 02:28 |
| bluesabre | else: | 02:28 |
| bluesabre | Gtk.show_uri(None, ('obex://[%s]' % addr), Gdk.CURRENT_TIME) | 02:28 |
| bluesabre | but yeah, I can prepare a merge | 02:28 |
| micahg | ok | 02:34 |
| bluesabre | micahg: package built against the transition ppa here https://launchpad.net/~bluesabre/+archive/ubuntu/bluez5 | 03:03 |
| bluesabre | want me to follow through the normal merge process with the merge bug, etc? | 03:04 |
| bluesabre | ah, found the bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/blueman/+bug/1482626 | 03:10 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1482626 in blueman (Ubuntu) "Sync blueman 2.0-1 (universe) from Debian stretch (main)" [Wishlist,Incomplete] | 03:10 |
| micahg | yeah, bluez already landed IIRC | 03:14 |
| bluesabre | cool | 03:16 |
| bluesabre | commented on that bug, attaching debdiffs | 03:16 |
| bluesabre | it seems to run fine in wily (at least in a vm) | 03:16 |
| bluesabre | added | 03:20 |
| bluesabre | micahg: need anything else for that? | 03:20 |
| bluesabre | I'll be running wily again this weekend if we need a hardware test | 03:20 |
| micahg | ok, I think it's ok, I can add the FFe | 03:21 |
| micahg | thanks | 03:21 |
| bluesabre | np, thanks micahg | 03:22 |
| Unit193 | bluesabre: Going to be FFe'ing all around/ | 03:36 |
| bluesabre | Unit193: so it seems :D | 03:43 |
| bluesabre | Unit193: care to look at gmb 1.1.15 for debian? https://gmusicbrowser.org/release-notes.txt | 03:44 |
| bluesabre | (since you did the last one) | 03:44 |
| bluesabre | I need to go to bed if I hope to make it to the meeting tomorrow :) | 03:45 |
| bluesabre | night all | 03:45 |
| Mirv | ochosi: sorry, I was sleeping already :) | 04:29 |
| Unit193 | Good plan. | 05:14 |
| Unit193 | bluesabre: And yeah had considered that, looks only a new alt rec on mpv. | 05:18 |
| Unit193 | bluesabre: http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-multimedia/gmusicbrowser.git btw, that. | 05:31 |
| flocculant | morning | 07:04 |
| dkessel | hey there | 09:55 |
| flocculant | !team | meeting in 5 | 09:55 |
| ubottu | meeting in 5: bluesabre, jjfrv8, knome, lderan, micahg, Noskcaj, ochosi, pleia2, slickymaster, Unit193 | 09:55 |
| knome | oh poop | 09:55 |
| flocculant | someone needs to sort that factoid I guess | 09:56 |
| knome | yes | 09:56 |
| knome | i can do that in 5 | 09:56 |
| knome | and for the meeting, i'll have more or less bad focus | 09:57 |
| knome | but i will be aroundish | 09:57 |
| flocculant | okey doke | 09:59 |
| bluesabre | helllloooooooo | 09:59 |
| flocculant | \o/ | 09:59 |
| flocculant | #startmeeting | 10:00 |
| meetingology | Meeting started Fri Aug 21 10:00:07 2015 UTC. The chair is flocculant. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. | 10:00 |
| meetingology | Available commands: action commands idea info link nick | 10:00 |
| flocculant | so who actually is here? | 10:00 |
| knome | !team | 10:00 |
| ubottu | bluesabre, dkessel, flocculant, jjfrv8, knome, krytarik, lderan, micahg, Noskcaj, ochosi, pleia2, slickymaster, Unit193 | 10:00 |
| bluesabre | o/ | 10:00 |
| knome | not that list! | 10:00 |
| knome | but it's now updated | 10:00 |
| knome | and o/ | 10:00 |
| flocculant | thanks knome :) | 10:00 |
| knome | np | 10:00 |
| dkessel | yay for more pings! im there with a strange keyboard setting due to remote connection :) | 10:01 |
| flocculant | #topic Open action items | 10:01 |
| knome | dkessel, you don't need the umlauts now :P | 10:01 |
| flocculant | ACTION: Unit193 to split up the xubuntu-core workitem on the blueprint to be able to track the progress better | 10:01 |
| flocculant | which as far as I am aware Unit193 did | 10:02 |
| knome | then undo it ;) | 10:02 |
| dkessel | knome: but what about the apostrophes and the question marks | 10:02 |
| knome | otherwise it'll keep on cycling around... | 10:02 |
| flocculant | #done Unit193 to split up the xubuntu-core work item on the blueprint to be able to track the progress better | 10:02 |
| knome | (too bad that doesn't close the action item :( ) | 10:02 |
| flocculant | knome: no need to undo it as I didn't #action it :p | 10:03 |
| knome | oh hah | 10:03 |
| knome | right'o.. | 10:03 |
| bluesabre | :D | 10:03 |
| knome | what did i say about my focus again.. | 10:03 |
| flocculant | that it would be about normal :D | 10:03 |
| flocculant | #Team Updates | 10:03 |
| Unit193 | Doesn't matter too much at this point, FF has passed. All 3 are up though, and were up before it. | 10:03 |
| knome | flocculant, that failed! | 10:04 |
| flocculant | hi Unit193 | 10:04 |
| flocculant | #topic Team Updates | 10:04 |
| Unit193 | Hi / bye | 10:04 |
| flocculant | cya | 10:04 |
| bluesabre | #info Catfish 1.3.0 and MenuLibre 2.1.0 uploaded to wily | 10:05 |
| bluesabre | #info libreoffice-style-elementary 0.2 included in xubuntu-artwork 15.10.3 uploaded to wily | 10:05 |
| dkessel | lots of new stuff to break :) | 10:05 |
| bluesabre | #info new shimmer-themes release pending upload to wily, includes fixes for GtkHeaderBars | 10:06 |
| flocculant | #info Image testing is much as normal - basic smoketesting going on | 10:06 |
| flocculant | #info no idea what's going on in package world | 10:06 |
| bluesabre | #info work on getting blueman 2.0 into wily started moving along, but will now require a FFe | 10:06 |
| flocculant | yep read that :) | 10:07 |
| bluesabre | what else have we done in the past few days..? | 10:07 |
| flocculant | #info milestone testing next week (hopefully) | 10:07 |
| flocculant | bluesabre: panel switch thing | 10:08 |
| knome | #done knome worked more with the work items tracker improving bits here and there | 10:08 |
| bluesabre | oh right | 10:08 |
| flocculant | #info testing for catfish and menulibre in plan | 10:08 |
| flocculant | #action flocculant set up catfish/menulibre testing | 10:09 |
| meetingology | ACTION: flocculant set up catfish/menulibre testing | 10:09 |
| bluesabre | #info xfpanel-switch uploaded prior to feature freeze, pending archive admin approval | 10:09 |
| flocculant | so I don't forget that ... | 10:09 |
| bluesabre | (thanks Mirv) | 10:09 |
| dkessel | #info balloons is looking at hardware options for the automated image testing stuff, running tests on nested cloud VMs was negative | 10:09 |
| flocculant | \o/ | 10:09 |
| flocculant | anything else before we move on | 10:10 |
| bluesabre | one more.... | 10:11 |
| flocculant | :) | 10:11 |
| bluesabre | #info libreoffice-style-elementary included in wily and is default. We also currently have libreoffice-style-human on the iso, working on shipping only the former | 10:12 |
| bluesabre | ok | 10:12 |
| knome | bluesabre, question | 10:12 |
| bluesabre | hm | 10:12 |
| knome | if we don't seed the default themes | 10:12 |
| knome | will the "fallback" work, eg. will we still have all icons visible? | 10:12 |
| knome | or do those come from "real" icon themes? | 10:13 |
| bluesabre | for lo? | 10:13 |
| knome | yes | 10:13 |
| knome | or did we just dumpy everything in the new package | 10:13 |
| knome | -y | 10:13 |
| bluesabre | it seems like the themes can inherit from each other, but none of them do, they're all self-contained | 10:13 |
| knome | ok, fair enough, just wondering | 10:13 |
| knome | (maybe we should look at inheriting for w+1 if we still do that a lot) | 10:14 |
| knome | continue | 10:14 |
| bluesabre | libreoffice seems to pick the first alphabetically, so that's convenient for us | 10:14 |
| bluesabre | e before g and h | 10:14 |
| bluesabre | :D | 10:14 |
| knome | ughhh | 10:14 |
| flocculant | heh | 10:14 |
| flocculant | moving on then | 10:15 |
| flocculant | #topic Announcements | 10:15 |
| flocculant | nothing that I'm aware of (that's not going to come up in a minute) | 10:16 |
| bluesabre | theres a few | 10:16 |
| flocculant | I'll let you get on with them then | 10:16 |
| bluesabre | #info Beta 1 Freeze on Monday, Beta 1 on Thursday | 10:16 |
| flocculant | well that's one that'll be coming up in a minute :D | 10:17 |
| bluesabre | #info User Interface Freeze on September 10 | 10:17 |
| bluesabre | :D | 10:17 |
| bluesabre | that's an announcement, reminder to get in gear ;) | 10:17 |
| knome | #info remember to keep your work items up to date | 10:17 |
| bluesabre | now that it's easy, no excuses | 10:18 |
| knome | i'm happy that we only have a few unassigned items | 10:18 |
| knome | only a longer list of bugs for -dev | 10:18 |
| bluesabre | yup | 10:18 |
| flocculant | couple could possibly go | 10:18 |
| bluesabre | bugfix time starts now :'( | 10:18 |
| flocculant | anymore announcements? | 10:19 |
| bluesabre | done here | 10:19 |
| knome | i'm good | 10:19 |
| flocculant | #topic Discussion | 10:19 |
| flocculant | #subtopic Beta 1 milestone | 10:19 |
| flocculant | so - assuming it happens | 10:19 |
| knome | yes please | 10:19 |
| flocculant | that relies on someone from community doing stuff | 10:19 |
| flocculant | I would but I'm MIA next week | 10:20 |
| flocculant | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WilyWerewolf/ReleaseTaskSignup | 10:20 |
| flocculant | no-one on checklist tracking for B1 | 10:20 |
| flocculant | I'll be mailing -release later saying that we will participate and higlighting it's empty | 10:21 |
| flocculant | so all being well - I'll send mail to list for us | 10:21 |
| bluesabre | oh wow | 10:21 |
| bluesabre | nice big hole there | 10:21 |
| flocculant | but will have to rely on -release and -qa to chivvy people along for us | 10:21 |
| flocculant | and probably mark ready on thursday | 10:22 |
| knome | i will be off whole monday... | 10:22 |
| flocculant | #action flocculant Mail dev re B1 testing | 10:22 |
| meetingology | ACTION: flocculant Mail dev re B1 testing | 10:22 |
| bluesabre | I can get on and mark ready for us as needed on thursday if nobody else can | 10:22 |
| knome | i should be able to do that as well | 10:22 |
| flocculant | #action Xubuntu Release/QA teams to try and move testers along if needed | 10:23 |
| meetingology | ACTION: Xubuntu Release/QA teams to try and move testers along if needed | 10:23 |
| knome | - even if i'm not in the -release team O:) | 10:23 |
| flocculant | #action flocculant mail -release re Beta 1 | 10:23 |
| meetingology | ACTION: flocculant mail -release re Beta 1 | 10:23 |
| flocculant | that's all I have on that | 10:23 |
| flocculant | though I do have another topic to start the ball rolling on | 10:24 |
| knome | do we have a testing focus? | 10:24 |
| knome | or just everything? | 10:24 |
| flocculant | knome: well - yea everything - at least try and get some hardware tests in the mix | 10:24 |
| knome | yep | 10:24 |
| flocculant | if I'm back in time I'll weigh in obviously | 10:25 |
| bluesabre | I think a new nvidia landed recently, so that could be fun or trouble | 10:25 |
| knome | yep, np, take your time etc :) | 10:25 |
| flocculant | bluesabre: not seen that | 10:25 |
| bluesabre | it might be in the queue still | 10:25 |
| flocculant | probably old card too ;) | 10:25 |
| bluesabre | :) | 10:26 |
| flocculant | anymore B1 points? | 10:26 |
| bluesabre | (nvidia-graphics-drivers-352 (352.30-0ubuntu1)) | 10:26 |
| bluesabre | I don't think i have anything at this time | 10:27 |
| knome | bluesabre, ochosi: do you want to upload the new wallpaper for B1? | 10:27 |
| bluesabre | knome: if it's ready, hand it over and I will upload | 10:27 |
| bluesabre | :D | 10:27 |
| knome | i'll have to do some tweaks, but mostly it's good to go | 10:27 |
| bluesabre | nice | 10:27 |
| flocculant | bluesabre: yea - just looked, my card = 340. as far as I can tell :) | 10:27 |
| bluesabre | two releases in a row on time with the artwork | 10:27 |
| * bluesabre is proud | 10:27 | |
| flocculant | :) | 10:28 |
| knome | ha | 10:28 |
| flocculant | okey doke - time to move on? | 10:28 |
| knome | yep | 10:28 |
| * bluesabre nods | 10:28 | |
| flocculant | #subtopic Package testing | 10:28 |
| flocculant | ... | 10:28 |
| flocculant | ok so - currently we are not using the tracker and trying for exploratory | 10:29 |
| flocculant | I need to get that mail (or whatever I do) sent out | 10:29 |
| flocculant | but | 10:29 |
| ochosi | hi everyone | 10:29 |
| ochosi | sorry for being late | 10:29 |
| flocculant | we don't now have any real way of tracking things - just relying on bugs being reported | 10:29 |
| flocculant | hi ochosi ::) | 10:29 |
| bluesabre | yeah | 10:30 |
| * ochosi is reading backlog now | 10:30 | |
| bluesabre | hiya ochosi | 10:30 |
| knome | flocculant, we could probably ask people to add certain tag to the bugs to make it a bit more trackable | 10:30 |
| flocculant | yep - that at least is in my notes for whatever I send | 10:30 |
| knome | and with that, we could eventually pull a list of those bugs to the tracker too | 10:30 |
| flocculant | that's what I was leading up to :D | 10:31 |
| flocculant | I think this is what we talked a bit about a week or so ago | 10:31 |
| flocculant | just wanted to bring it up in a meeting | 10:31 |
| flocculant | so - as far as tag goes - something easy to remember like xubuntu-w(or x or y) | 10:32 |
| knome | or something that goes from cycle to cycle and then another tag to list the cycle? | 10:33 |
| knome | eg. add "xubuntu-exploratory" and "wily" | 10:33 |
| ochosi | knome: i'd be ok with shipping the new wall with b1, although otoh we haven't done that in the past and there's no more "scoop" to it | 10:33 |
| flocculant | knome: ok - that probably sounds best | 10:33 |
| ochosi | and i like the "in development" wallpaper | 10:33 |
| knome | ochosi, that's why i asked, i can also hold on to it until b2 | 10:33 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: mind waiting with the wall? | 10:34 |
| knome | he doesn't have it, so... :P | 10:34 |
| bluesabre | ochosi: I don't mind | 10:34 |
| flocculant | ha ha | 10:34 |
| bluesabre | I just upload when you guys say 'hey sean, wp' | 10:34 |
| knome | i'm mostly going to do testing with a laptop screen to make stuff is visible enough | 10:34 |
| ochosi | :) | 10:35 |
| knome | and maybe tweak some minor things | 10:35 |
| ochosi | right, feel free to share within -team if you want feedback | 10:35 |
| ochosi | or -artwork :p | 10:35 |
| knome | that said, there's not much to tweak in four triangles... | 10:35 |
| knome | "oops" :P | 10:35 |
| flocculant | no curves \o/ | 10:36 |
| ochosi | :D | 10:36 |
| flocculant | I can see angles ... | 10:36 |
| knome | probably some elliptical circles | 10:36 |
| flocculant | ha ha | 10:36 |
| bluesabre | there goes knome using ms paint again | 10:36 |
| knome | \o/ | 10:36 |
| ochosi | lol | 10:36 |
| knome | that'd be a challenge | 10:36 |
| knome | it's ages since i did pure pixel pushing | 10:37 |
| ochosi | for LTS+1 maybe ? :D | 10:37 |
| knome | huhu | 10:37 |
| bluesabre | :p | 10:37 |
| knome | well, LTS starts the new wp saga | 10:37 |
| knome | so who knows... | 10:37 |
| ochosi | anyhow, you've already listed my updates | 10:37 |
| ochosi | so thanks for that | 10:37 |
| flocculant | ok - anymore wp stuff - if not ... | 10:38 |
| ochosi | anything else you want to discuss with me? | 10:38 |
| ochosi | cause i gotta run in a minute again | 10:38 |
| ochosi | "moar baby stuff" | 10:38 |
| ochosi | (sorry to be so disruptive) | 10:38 |
| bluesabre | :) | 10:38 |
| flocculant | ochosi: you ok with others working out a way to get exploratory stuff on our tracker? | 10:38 |
| flocculant | ochosi: and if you think this is disruptive ... | 10:38 |
| ochosi | flocculant: sure! | 10:39 |
| ochosi | :) | 10:39 |
| ochosi | i'll read the rest of the backlog then, sry! bbl | 10:39 |
| flocculant | ok - so if knome and I work that out - assuming knome is happy :) | 10:39 |
| ochosi | cool | 10:39 |
| ochosi | thanks flocculant + knome :) | 10:39 |
| knome | yep, i'm ok | 10:40 |
| flocculant | #action knome and flocculant to work out exploratory bugs on tracker | 10:40 |
| meetingology | ACTION: knome and flocculant to work out exploratory bugs on tracker | 10:40 |
| flocculant | I've nothing else for discussion - anyone else got anything? | 10:40 |
| bluesabre | i'm good | 10:41 |
| flocculant | knome dkessel ? | 10:41 |
| knome | nope | 10:41 |
| flocculant | #topic Schedule next meeting | 10:42 |
| flocculant | let's have another go at ... | 10:42 |
| flocculant | #info slickymaster is to schedule the next meeting | 10:42 |
| bluesabre | yay not me | 10:42 |
| flocculant | #endmeeting | 10:42 |
| meetingology | Meeting ended Fri Aug 21 10:42:44 2015 UTC. | 10:42 |
| meetingology | Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/xubuntu-devel/2015/xubuntu-devel.2015-08-21-10.00.moin.txt | 10:42 |
| bluesabre | thanks flocculant! | 10:43 |
| flocculant | I'll get the wiki sorted | 10:43 |
| knome | ta | 10:43 |
| knome | huh, too hot :| | 10:43 |
| flocculant | do we need to add dkessel and krytarik as sacrificial lambs to the chair list :p | 10:43 |
| knome | no, they are not team leads | 10:44 |
| flocculant | oh yea ... | 10:45 |
| flocculant | was hoping for 1 meeting to run a cycle :D | 10:45 |
| knome | hah | 10:46 |
| flocculant | ok notes are up | 10:47 |
| flocculant | thanks everyone :) | 10:47 |
| knome | thank you | 10:49 |
| dkessel | sorry, had to take a call | 10:52 |
| flocculant | that's ok :) | 10:53 |
| knome | part of the fun sometimes is to say hello when the meeting begins and then disappear | 10:53 |
| dkessel | hah, me no chairing :) | 10:53 |
| dkessel | well thanks for chairing, flocculant. i will try to do tests before the beta, but i am moving and so i am not even sure if i will have internet next week at all | 10:55 |
| dkessel | bb, cya later | 10:55 |
| knome | dkessel, happy moving! | 10:55 |
| flocculant | indeed - have fun with that :) | 10:56 |
| knome | ok, i'm off as well | 10:57 |
| knome | bbl | 10:57 |
| flocculant | bluesabre: couple of bugs on the bug bp - parole with blank screen and camera not initialising | 10:57 |
| flocculant | knome: cya | 10:57 |
| flocculant | bluesabre: I know we have a workround in for parole - do we leave that bug on the list? | 10:57 |
| flocculant | not sure about the camera issue - I see that still happening | 10:58 |
| bluesabre | flocculant: I think parole is fixed, worked around it | 11:51 |
| bluesabre | the camera issue is a larger issue which I haven't found a solution for yet | 11:52 |
| bluesabre | now that FF has happened, I am going to push more time into those bugs | 11:52 |
| flocculant | bluesabre: ok - just thought I'd mention them both | 11:52 |
| bluesabre | thanks | 11:52 |
| bluesabre | :) | 11:52 |
| flocculant | :) | 11:53 |
| bluesabre | heading to work now, bbl | 11:53 |
| flocculant | I knew the parole one had a work round - but it's sitting on the bp stil | 11:53 |
| flocculant | yep - have a good day - cya :) | 11:53 |
| pleia2 | tsk, 3am meetings ;) | 17:19 |
| knome | hah | 17:37 |
| knome | hello pleia2 | 17:37 |
| pleia2 | o/ knome | 17:42 |
| pleia2 | knome: I am still waking up, will you be around in ~3 hours to chat flyers? | 17:42 |
| knome | i can be | 17:42 |
| knome | just came home from dad's 60yo parties and a few beers with a friend after that | 17:43 |
| knome | so it's not likely i'm crashing bed soon | 17:43 |
| knome | i guess for normal people it might, but for me... nah. | 17:43 |
| pleia2 | well, I'll be around some on Sunday too just in case ;) | 17:47 |
| knome | sunday is a bit meh for me (leaving for a cruise in the afternoon) so today is better | 17:54 |
| knome | and i don't have any responsibilities tomorrow, so it's ok to stay up "late" | 17:54 |
| pleia2 | k :) | 17:55 |
| pleia2 | where does one cruise to up there? | 17:55 |
| knome | tallinn or stockholm most often | 17:56 |
| knome | we're going to stockholm | 17:56 |
| knome | two nights on the boat, a whole day in stockholm | 17:56 |
| pleia2 | sounds lovely :) | 17:56 |
| knome | going with two friends and not wife, so rather fun than lovely | 17:57 |
| bluesabre | evening all | 21:40 |
| knome | hey sean | 21:41 |
| bluesabre | hiya pasi | 21:41 |
| knome | what's up? | 21:44 |
| knome | going to make the burndown look better? | 21:44 |
| bluesabre | knome: I might work on that tonight | 21:47 |
| bluesabre | or take a night to breathe | 21:47 |
| bluesabre | not sure which yet | 21:48 |
| knome | mhm, that's important too | 21:48 |
| bluesabre | ;) | 21:48 |
| ochosi | yup, i'm gonna do the latter | 22:02 |
| ochosi | have to move to the new flat this weekend | 22:02 |
| ochosi | so will be afk | 22:02 |
| ochosi | but pushed a rather big icon commit just now | 22:02 |
| ochosi | so enjoy ;) | 22:02 |
| ochosi | night all! | 22:03 |
| bluesabre | night ochosi | 22:06 |
| bluesabre | ooh, the new battery icons | 22:07 |
| bluesabre | time to take a look at those | 22:07 |
| bluesabre | at some oint | 22:07 |
| bluesabre | point | 22:07 |
| knome | pleia2, did you know 5 hours is not ~3 hours? :] | 22:41 |
| pleia2 | day flew by o_o | 22:42 |
| knome | heh | 22:43 |
| knome | do you still want to look at it or shall we pass it to some other day? | 22:43 |
| pleia2 | let's just do it | 22:50 |
| knome | ok | 22:51 |
| knome | i'll get my mouse | 22:51 |
| knome | so, let me explain this process to you | 22:54 |
| knome | since it's probably better you understand it before i make you try stuff | 22:55 |
| pleia2 | +1 | 22:55 |
| knome | so if you have an .FB mode (you don't), | 22:55 |
| knome | you can basically print out the file 1:1, and the file can be exactly the size of the paper | 22:55 |
| knome | as you would expect really | 22:55 |
| knome | but if you don't, we run into problems | 22:55 |
| pleia2 | .fb mode? | 22:56 |
| knome | basically, your printer then refuses to print it 1:1 and then squeezes the page | 22:56 |
| knome | even if you tell it not to squeeze to fit the page | 22:56 |
| pleia2 | aha | 22:56 |
| knome | yes, .FB mode is a certain print output mode | 22:56 |
| pleia2 | I see | 22:56 |
| knome | so i know we've done this before, but just to lay out the stuff | 22:57 |
| knome | 'lpstat -a' gives you the list of your printers | 22:57 |
| knome | 'lpoptions -l -d [device]' gives you the options for the printer in question | 22:57 |
| knome | and that also has a list of media modes | 22:58 |
| knome | those can be things like A4, Letter, A4.FB, Letter.FB, etc | 22:58 |
| knome | there are likely plenty of them | 22:58 |
| knome | it's all the sizes the printer can print to | 22:59 |
| knome | well, at least all the preset ones... | 22:59 |
| knome | and for completeness, if you had an FB mode for your media size, then the print command would simply be: | 23:00 |
| knome | lp -s -d [device] -o fit-to-page -o OutputMode=Best -o Media=[media] -P 1 flyer.pdf | 23:00 |
| knome | (simply and simply...) | 23:00 |
| knome | but you can probably figure out that's just giving certain options to the printer etc | 23:01 |
| * pleia2 nods | 23:02 | |
| knome | so, sigh... | 23:02 |
| knome | i believe that if you don't have the FB mode | 23:03 |
| knome | there is no way to print the file 1:1 from the PDF that has the document size you want | 23:03 |
| knome | with any options | 23:03 |
| knome | but to make sure, maybe we should try it | 23:03 |
| knome | let me figure out the command... | 23:04 |
| pleia2 | I'm thinking that since this is a networked printer hooked up via another linux machine it's not serving the responses I need | 23:04 |
| pleia2 | lpoptions: Unable to get PPD file for Brother-HL-1250-seriesCMD:PDF,PS,JPEG,PNG,URF: Unknown | 23:04 |
| knome | hmm, likely so | 23:04 |
| knome | but that's fine | 23:05 |
| pleia2 | ah, if I log in directly to the one it's connected to I get stuff | 23:05 |
| pleia2 | http://paste.ubuntu.com/12146069/ | 23:05 |
| knome | :) | 23:05 |
| knome | yep, Letter is the default | 23:05 |
| pleia2 | I see no FB | 23:05 |
| knome | ok, so let me first upload the pdf again | 23:06 |
| pleia2 | k | 23:06 |
| knome | and then give you the command | 23:06 |
| knome | http://temp.knome.fi/temp/xubuntu/.flyer/ | 23:06 |
| knome | lp -s -d HL1250 -o Media=Letter -P 1 flyer_USletter.pdf | 23:08 |
| knome | that should print one page | 23:08 |
| knome | it should be obvious whether the three-fold sections line up correctly or not | 23:09 |
| * pleia2 collects from printer | 23:10 | |
| knome | but fwiw, the left hand margin should be aroud 0.35 inches | 23:10 |
| pleia2 | folds nicely | 23:11 |
| knome | really? | 23:11 |
| pleia2 | yes | 23:11 |
| knome | >___< | 23:11 |
| knome | then what on earth has been going wrong so far | 23:11 |
| pleia2 | lol | 23:11 |
| pleia2 | maybe I should print both sides to confirm | 23:11 |
| knome | when i did that, i had too large margins | 23:11 |
| * pleia2 -P 2 | 23:12 | |
| knome | yep | 23:12 |
| knome | well, tbh, if this works, i'm happy nonetheless | 23:13 |
| knome | for my mental health issues, can you check with a ruler how much padding there is for the left and right hand sides | 23:13 |
| knome | that is, empty space between the text column and page border | 23:14 |
| knome | actually, for the right hand side, check the padding from the right side of the ubuntu logo in pg2 | 23:16 |
| knome | the front page screenshot might be a bit overflowing | 23:16 |
| knome | i can't remember if it's intentional or not any more | 23:17 |
| knome | likely is | 23:17 |
| pleia2 | screenshot on the front page is maybe .3 inches from the edge | 23:18 |
| knome | should be around 0.23 | 23:19 |
| pleia2 | no wait, let's see | 23:19 |
| pleia2 | non-precise measuring tape ;) | 23:19 |
| knome | :D | 23:19 |
| pleia2 | it's in 1/8s of an inch, then guessing | 23:19 |
| knome | the svg says it's slightly less than 6mm | 23:20 |
| knome | and 6mm converts to 0.23622 | 23:20 |
| pleia2 | 3/16th of an inch :) | 23:20 |
| knome | ok | 23:20 |
| knome | then i'd guess the other padding is more than it should be | 23:20 |
| knome | but that's likely just the printer | 23:21 |
| pleia2 | other side (from Contribute to Xubuntu Heading) is 3/8ths | 23:21 |
| pleia2 | but printing double sided still lets things line up and it folds in a non-offending way | 23:21 |
| knome | yes, that adds up | 23:21 |
| knome | the printer skewed it by a mm or so | 23:21 |
| knome | there's nothing we can do about that and it's fine | 23:22 |
| * pleia2 nods | 23:22 | |
| knome | but it's good to hear the total is about what we have in the svg | 23:22 |
| knome | so - we're done! | 23:22 |
| pleia2 | :D | 23:22 |
| knome | so you can probably print this out from a GUI too | 23:22 |
| knome | i've had bad experiences with that though | 23:22 |
| knome | mum's printer has so many options and the options the GUI proposes are weird | 23:23 |
| pleia2 | lp is fine | 23:23 |
| knome | and making sure they are all correct... sigh | 23:23 |
| pleia2 | heh, yeah | 23:23 |
| knome | so before you print things | 23:24 |
| knome | we should probably look updating the content a bit | 23:24 |
| pleia2 | knome: can you split this into 2 pdfs? | 23:24 |
| knome | no | 23:24 |
| knome | but i can not merge it to one | 23:24 |
| knome | :P | 23:24 |
| knome | well i can split it to two too... | 23:25 |
| knome | but that would be silly | 23:25 |
| pleia2 | vistaprint wants the pages to be separate | 23:25 |
| knome | D: | 23:25 |
| pleia2 | it can't see page 2 | 23:25 |
| knome | great... | 23:25 |
| knome | are we fine with the content though? | 23:25 |
| knome | i did abiword/gnumeric > LO the other day | 23:26 |
| pleia2 | yes, when I upload this their tool is super happy with margins and things and it looks good | 23:26 |
| pleia2 | it just only sees one side :) | 23:26 |
| knome | :D | 23:26 |
| knome | pdftk flyer_USletter.pdf cat 1 output flyer_page1.pdf | 23:27 |
| knome | s/1/2/ | 23:27 |
| SwissBot | knome meant: "pdftk flyer_USletter.pdf cat 2 output flyer_page1.pdf" | 23:27 |
| knome | SwissBot, you're wrong. | 23:27 |
| SwissBot | hello knome | 23:27 |
| knome | Unit193, can we turn that feature off? | 23:27 |
| pleia2 | lol | 23:28 |
| Unit193 | knome: Use better regex! :P | 23:28 |
| knome | pleia2, hmm wait | 23:28 |
| knome | you'll likely want the paths version anyway | 23:28 |
| knome | i'll upload those | 23:28 |
| knome | pleia2, refresh http://temp.knome.fi/temp/xubuntu/.flyer/ | 23:29 |
| pleia2 | thank you | 23:30 |
| knome | np | 23:30 |
| knome | i should likely push these to a branch | 23:30 |
| pleia2 | ++ | 23:31 |
| knome | or sth... | 23:31 |
| * pleia2 tries to use the mkdur command | 23:32 | |
| pleia2 | I am tired :( | 23:32 |
| pleia2 | MAKE DUR PLZ | 23:32 |
| knome | hah | 23:33 |
| pleia2 | knome: so is this flyer good? should I pay a few bucks to get a pile printed up or do we need more changes? | 23:33 |
| knome | that was what i was asking from you | 23:33 |
| pleia2 | oh, hehe | 23:34 |
| knome | on a general level, i'm happy about how it looks | 23:34 |
| knome | and i'm good with the content too | 23:34 |
| knome | the question is: is it all still up-to-date | 23:34 |
| pleia2 | oh good, all updated with libreoffice | 23:34 |
| knome | and what to do with the screenshot | 23:34 |
| pleia2 | I assume we're not changing the background for 15.10? | 23:34 |
| knome | likely not... i think we want to keep with LTS stuff | 23:34 |
| pleia2 | update copyright notice | 23:35 |
| pleia2 | maybe? | 23:35 |
| knome | we don't have the rounding we have there anywhere | 23:35 |
| knome | or in other words, it's VERY rounded there | 23:35 |
| knome | that's probably my only visual issue | 23:35 |
| pleia2 | yeah | 23:35 |
| knome | but to fix it is WORK | 23:35 |
| knome | :| | 23:35 |
| knome | but i can do that | 23:35 |
| pleia2 | heh | 23:36 |
| pleia2 | just don't want people to feel like this is already a year old when they look at it, since copyright is the only place we have a date | 23:36 |
| knome | yep | 23:37 |
| knome | i'll update that while i'm there too | 23:37 |
| pleia2 | 25 is the smallest batch they do, and right now I can get it them for $13.99 plus shipping | 23:37 |
| knome | 5 mins | 23:37 |
| pleia2 | not many, we can print more once we come up with a plan for LTS next year :) | 23:37 |
| knome | another small issue | 23:41 |
| knome | should we remove the ยป from the front page? | 23:41 |
| knome | that doesn't seem like it belongs there | 23:41 |
| pleia2 | yes, I just realized it's a block on my printed one | 23:42 |
| knome | haha | 23:42 |
| knome | ok.. | 23:42 |
| knome | any other blocks? | 23:42 |
| knome | (wouldn't have been a block if you had used the paths version, since there is no text that can go wrong there) | 23:43 |
| knome | refreshed files uploaded in the same place | 23:43 |
| knome | well, not the main one | 23:44 |
| knome | but separated pages | 23:44 |
| pleia2 | nope, that's it | 23:44 |
| knome | does vistaprint do automatic folding? | 23:44 |
| knome | wait, something went wrong there | 23:45 |
| knome | duh | 23:45 |
| knome | what am i messing around here | 23:45 |
| pleia2 | not sure, it may be an option when I check out | 23:47 |
| knome | just don't pick one-fold | 23:48 |
| knome | :D | 23:48 |
| pleia2 | yeah, the format selected is specifically a tri-fold | 23:48 |
| knome | ok, all is uploaded now | 23:48 |
| pleia2 | it checks for measurements on all three folds | 23:48 |
| knome | and should be final | 23:48 |
| knome | at least until it's not | 23:48 |
| knome | D: | 23:48 |
| pleia2 | :) | 23:49 |
| knome | i'm happy with it now | 23:50 |
| pleia2 | good, me too | 23:50 |
| pleia2 | ok, I selected snail mailing (cheap) so it'll likely arrive when I'm traveling, will have it by the time I come home on sept 7th though | 23:57 |
| knome | yup | 23:57 |
| knome | great | 23:57 |
| knome | i'm preparing pushing to a branch too | 23:57 |
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