[00:35] bluesabre: yeah, I have to hack up the packageset generation script [00:35] bluesabre: something I can upload for you? [01:03] micahg: yeah, I can upload to a ppa if you want to pick it out of there? [01:07] micahg: uploaded shimmer-themes to https://launchpad.net/~bluesabre/+archive/ubuntu/sponsoring/+packages, still building there [01:14] sure, thanks [01:14] thanks micahg :) [01:15] I'm sorry I haven't fixed it yet, still playing catch up [01:17] micahg: np, we're managing fairly well around here [01:18] bluesabre: can you take a look at the blueman merge, I'm not 100% sure about the python patch that we're carrying, we'll need an FFE at this point to get it in [01:18] I assume we'd like it this cycle [01:18] ? [01:19] micahg: yeah, I'll take a look [01:19] new blueman would be a nice bonus [01:20] * bluesabre has a bluetooth mouse and headphones [01:20] thanks, justification for FFe bluez5 just landed last week (or so) and blueman needed that or obexd (which was removed from Debian) [02:24] micahg: taking a look at the merge, looks like we can drop 03_filemanager_fix.patch, and then we might (or not) need to provide a config for org.blueman.transfer.browse-command in x-d-s [02:27] ok, sounds like that should be tested before it's uploaded, did you already prepare a merge or just look at the patch? [02:28] looked at the merge, tried applying the patch, then looked at the code [02:28] in apps/blueman-browse this is the code that makes this all work (line 55) [02:28] try: [02:28] if conf["browse-command"]: [02:28] launch(conf["browse-command"].replace("%d", addr), system=True, name="blueman") [02:28] else: [02:28] Gtk.show_uri(None, ('obex://[%s]' % addr), Gdk.CURRENT_TIME) [02:28] but yeah, I can prepare a merge [02:34] ok [03:03] micahg: package built against the transition ppa here https://launchpad.net/~bluesabre/+archive/ubuntu/bluez5 [03:04] want me to follow through the normal merge process with the merge bug, etc? [03:10] ah, found the bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/blueman/+bug/1482626 [03:10] Launchpad bug 1482626 in blueman (Ubuntu) "Sync blueman 2.0-1 (universe) from Debian stretch (main)" [Wishlist,Incomplete] [03:14] yeah, bluez already landed IIRC [03:16] cool [03:16] commented on that bug, attaching debdiffs [03:16] it seems to run fine in wily (at least in a vm) [03:20] added [03:20] micahg: need anything else for that? [03:20] I'll be running wily again this weekend if we need a hardware test [03:21] ok, I think it's ok, I can add the FFe [03:21] thanks [03:22] np, thanks micahg [03:36] bluesabre: Going to be FFe'ing all around/ [03:43] Unit193: so it seems :D [03:44] Unit193: care to look at gmb 1.1.15 for debian? https://gmusicbrowser.org/release-notes.txt [03:44] (since you did the last one) [03:45] I need to go to bed if I hope to make it to the meeting tomorrow :) [03:45] night all [04:29] ochosi: sorry, I was sleeping already :) [05:14] Good plan. [05:18] bluesabre: And yeah had considered that, looks only a new alt rec on mpv. [05:31] bluesabre: http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-multimedia/gmusicbrowser.git btw, that. [07:04] morning [09:55] hey there [09:55] !team | meeting in 5 [09:55] meeting in 5: bluesabre, jjfrv8, knome, lderan, micahg, Noskcaj, ochosi, pleia2, slickymaster, Unit193 [09:55] oh poop [09:56] someone needs to sort that factoid I guess [09:56] yes [09:56] i can do that in 5 [09:57] and for the meeting, i'll have more or less bad focus [09:57] but i will be aroundish [09:59] okey doke [09:59] helllloooooooo [09:59] \o/ [10:00] #startmeeting [10:00] Meeting started Fri Aug 21 10:00:07 2015 UTC. The chair is flocculant. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. [10:00] Available commands: action commands idea info link nick [10:00] so who actually is here? [10:00] !team [10:00] bluesabre, dkessel, flocculant, jjfrv8, knome, krytarik, lderan, micahg, Noskcaj, ochosi, pleia2, slickymaster, Unit193 [10:00] o/ [10:00] not that list! [10:00] but it's now updated [10:00] and o/ [10:00] thanks knome :) [10:00] np [10:01] yay for more pings! im there with a strange keyboard setting due to remote connection :) [10:01] #topic Open action items [10:01] dkessel, you don't need the umlauts now :P [10:01] ACTION: Unit193 to split up the xubuntu-core workitem on the blueprint to be able to track the progress better [10:02] which as far as I am aware Unit193 did [10:02] then undo it ;) [10:02] knome: but what about the apostrophes and the question marks [10:02] otherwise it'll keep on cycling around... [10:02] #done Unit193 to split up the xubuntu-core work item on the blueprint to be able to track the progress better [10:02] (too bad that doesn't close the action item :( ) [10:03] knome: no need to undo it as I didn't #action it :p [10:03] oh hah [10:03] right'o.. [10:03] :D [10:03] what did i say about my focus again.. [10:03] that it would be about normal :D [10:03] #Team Updates [10:03] Doesn't matter too much at this point, FF has passed. All 3 are up though, and were up before it. [10:04] flocculant, that failed! [10:04] hi Unit193 [10:04] #topic Team Updates [10:04] Hi / bye [10:04] cya [10:05] #info Catfish 1.3.0 and MenuLibre 2.1.0 uploaded to wily [10:05] #info libreoffice-style-elementary 0.2 included in xubuntu-artwork 15.10.3 uploaded to wily [10:05] lots of new stuff to break :) [10:06] #info new shimmer-themes release pending upload to wily, includes fixes for GtkHeaderBars [10:06] #info Image testing is much as normal - basic smoketesting going on [10:06] #info no idea what's going on in package world [10:06] #info work on getting blueman 2.0 into wily started moving along, but will now require a FFe [10:07] yep read that :) [10:07] what else have we done in the past few days..? [10:07] #info milestone testing next week (hopefully) [10:08] bluesabre: panel switch thing [10:08] #done knome worked more with the work items tracker improving bits here and there [10:08] oh right [10:08] #info testing for catfish and menulibre in plan [10:09] #action flocculant set up catfish/menulibre testing [10:09] ACTION: flocculant set up catfish/menulibre testing [10:09] #info xfpanel-switch uploaded prior to feature freeze, pending archive admin approval [10:09] so I don't forget that ... [10:09] (thanks Mirv) [10:09] #info balloons is looking at hardware options for the automated image testing stuff, running tests on nested cloud VMs was negative [10:09] \o/ [10:10] anything else before we move on [10:11] one more.... [10:11] :) [10:12] #info libreoffice-style-elementary included in wily and is default. We also currently have libreoffice-style-human on the iso, working on shipping only the former [10:12] ok [10:12] bluesabre, question [10:12] hm [10:12] if we don't seed the default themes [10:12] will the "fallback" work, eg. will we still have all icons visible? [10:13] or do those come from "real" icon themes? [10:13] for lo? [10:13] yes [10:13] or did we just dumpy everything in the new package [10:13] -y [10:13] it seems like the themes can inherit from each other, but none of them do, they're all self-contained [10:13] ok, fair enough, just wondering [10:14] (maybe we should look at inheriting for w+1 if we still do that a lot) [10:14] continue [10:14] libreoffice seems to pick the first alphabetically, so that's convenient for us [10:14] e before g and h [10:14] :D [10:14] ughhh [10:14] heh [10:15] moving on then [10:15] #topic Announcements [10:16] nothing that I'm aware of (that's not going to come up in a minute) [10:16] theres a few [10:16] I'll let you get on with them then [10:16] #info Beta 1 Freeze on Monday, Beta 1 on Thursday [10:17] well that's one that'll be coming up in a minute :D [10:17] #info User Interface Freeze on September 10 [10:17] :D [10:17] that's an announcement, reminder to get in gear ;) [10:17] #info remember to keep your work items up to date [10:18] now that it's easy, no excuses [10:18] i'm happy that we only have a few unassigned items [10:18] only a longer list of bugs for -dev [10:18] yup [10:18] couple could possibly go [10:18] bugfix time starts now :'( [10:19] anymore announcements? [10:19] done here [10:19] i'm good [10:19] #topic Discussion [10:19] #subtopic Beta 1 milestone [10:19] so - assuming it happens [10:19] yes please [10:19] that relies on someone from community doing stuff [10:20] I would but I'm MIA next week [10:20] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WilyWerewolf/ReleaseTaskSignup [10:20] no-one on checklist tracking for B1 [10:21] I'll be mailing -release later saying that we will participate and higlighting it's empty [10:21] so all being well - I'll send mail to list for us [10:21] oh wow [10:21] nice big hole there [10:21] but will have to rely on -release and -qa to chivvy people along for us [10:22] and probably mark ready on thursday [10:22] i will be off whole monday... [10:22] #action flocculant Mail dev re B1 testing [10:22] ACTION: flocculant Mail dev re B1 testing [10:22] I can get on and mark ready for us as needed on thursday if nobody else can [10:22] i should be able to do that as well [10:23] #action Xubuntu Release/QA teams to try and move testers along if needed [10:23] ACTION: Xubuntu Release/QA teams to try and move testers along if needed [10:23] - even if i'm not in the -release team O:) [10:23] #action flocculant mail -release re Beta 1 [10:23] ACTION: flocculant mail -release re Beta 1 [10:23] that's all I have on that [10:24] though I do have another topic to start the ball rolling on [10:24] do we have a testing focus? [10:24] or just everything? [10:24] knome: well - yea everything - at least try and get some hardware tests in the mix [10:24] yep [10:25] if I'm back in time I'll weigh in obviously [10:25] I think a new nvidia landed recently, so that could be fun or trouble [10:25] yep, np, take your time etc :) [10:25] bluesabre: not seen that [10:25] it might be in the queue still [10:25] probably old card too ;) [10:26] :) [10:26] anymore B1 points? [10:26] (nvidia-graphics-drivers-352 (352.30-0ubuntu1)) [10:27] I don't think i have anything at this time [10:27] bluesabre, ochosi: do you want to upload the new wallpaper for B1? [10:27] knome: if it's ready, hand it over and I will upload [10:27] :D [10:27] i'll have to do some tweaks, but mostly it's good to go [10:27] nice [10:27] bluesabre: yea - just looked, my card = 340. as far as I can tell :) [10:27] two releases in a row on time with the artwork [10:27] * bluesabre is proud [10:28] :) [10:28] ha [10:28] okey doke - time to move on? [10:28] yep [10:28] * bluesabre nods [10:28] #subtopic Package testing [10:28] ... [10:29] ok so - currently we are not using the tracker and trying for exploratory [10:29] I need to get that mail (or whatever I do) sent out [10:29] but [10:29] hi everyone [10:29] sorry for being late [10:29] we don't now have any real way of tracking things - just relying on bugs being reported [10:29] hi ochosi ::) [10:30] yeah [10:30] * ochosi is reading backlog now [10:30] hiya ochosi [10:30] flocculant, we could probably ask people to add certain tag to the bugs to make it a bit more trackable [10:30] yep - that at least is in my notes for whatever I send [10:30] and with that, we could eventually pull a list of those bugs to the tracker too [10:31] that's what I was leading up to :D [10:31] I think this is what we talked a bit about a week or so ago [10:31] just wanted to bring it up in a meeting [10:32] so - as far as tag goes - something easy to remember like xubuntu-w(or x or y) [10:33] or something that goes from cycle to cycle and then another tag to list the cycle? [10:33] eg. add "xubuntu-exploratory" and "wily" [10:33] knome: i'd be ok with shipping the new wall with b1, although otoh we haven't done that in the past and there's no more "scoop" to it [10:33] knome: ok - that probably sounds best [10:33] and i like the "in development" wallpaper [10:33] ochosi, that's why i asked, i can also hold on to it until b2 [10:34] bluesabre: mind waiting with the wall? [10:34] he doesn't have it, so... :P [10:34] ochosi: I don't mind [10:34] ha ha [10:34] I just upload when you guys say 'hey sean, wp' [10:34] i'm mostly going to do testing with a laptop screen to make stuff is visible enough [10:35] :) [10:35] and maybe tweak some minor things [10:35] right, feel free to share within -team if you want feedback [10:35] or -artwork :p [10:35] that said, there's not much to tweak in four triangles... [10:35] "oops" :P [10:36] no curves \o/ [10:36] :D [10:36] I can see angles ... [10:36] probably some elliptical circles [10:36] ha ha [10:36] there goes knome using ms paint again [10:36] \o/ [10:36] lol [10:36] that'd be a challenge [10:37] it's ages since i did pure pixel pushing [10:37] for LTS+1 maybe ? :D [10:37] huhu [10:37] :p [10:37] well, LTS starts the new wp saga [10:37] so who knows... [10:37] anyhow, you've already listed my updates [10:37] so thanks for that [10:38] ok - anymore wp stuff - if not ... [10:38] anything else you want to discuss with me? [10:38] cause i gotta run in a minute again [10:38] "moar baby stuff" [10:38] (sorry to be so disruptive) [10:38] :) [10:38] ochosi: you ok with others working out a way to get exploratory stuff on our tracker? [10:38] ochosi: and if you think this is disruptive ... [10:39] flocculant: sure! [10:39] :) [10:39] i'll read the rest of the backlog then, sry! bbl [10:39] ok - so if knome and I work that out - assuming knome is happy :) [10:39] cool [10:39] thanks flocculant + knome :) [10:40] yep, i'm ok [10:40] #action knome and flocculant to work out exploratory bugs on tracker [10:40] ACTION: knome and flocculant to work out exploratory bugs on tracker [10:40] I've nothing else for discussion - anyone else got anything? [10:41] i'm good [10:41] knome dkessel ? [10:41] nope [10:42] #topic Schedule next meeting [10:42] let's have another go at ... [10:42] #info slickymaster is to schedule the next meeting [10:42] yay not me [10:42] #endmeeting [10:42] Meeting ended Fri Aug 21 10:42:44 2015 UTC. [10:42] Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/xubuntu-devel/2015/xubuntu-devel.2015-08-21-10.00.moin.txt [10:43] thanks flocculant! [10:43] I'll get the wiki sorted [10:43] ta [10:43] huh, too hot :| [10:43] do we need to add dkessel and krytarik as sacrificial lambs to the chair list :p [10:44] no, they are not team leads [10:45] oh yea ... [10:45] was hoping for 1 meeting to run a cycle :D [10:46] hah [10:47] ok notes are up [10:47] thanks everyone :) [10:49] thank you [10:52] sorry, had to take a call [10:53] that's ok :) [10:53] part of the fun sometimes is to say hello when the meeting begins and then disappear [10:53] hah, me no chairing :) [10:55] well thanks for chairing, flocculant. i will try to do tests before the beta, but i am moving and so i am not even sure if i will have internet next week at all [10:55] bb, cya later [10:55] dkessel, happy moving! [10:56] indeed - have fun with that :) [10:57] ok, i'm off as well [10:57] bbl [10:57] bluesabre: couple of bugs on the bug bp - parole with blank screen and camera not initialising [10:57] knome: cya [10:57] bluesabre: I know we have a workround in for parole - do we leave that bug on the list? [10:58] not sure about the camera issue - I see that still happening [11:51] flocculant: I think parole is fixed, worked around it [11:52] the camera issue is a larger issue which I haven't found a solution for yet [11:52] now that FF has happened, I am going to push more time into those bugs [11:52] bluesabre: ok - just thought I'd mention them both [11:52] thanks [11:52] :) [11:53] :) [11:53] heading to work now, bbl [11:53] I knew the parole one had a work round - but it's sitting on the bp stil [11:53] yep - have a good day - cya :) [17:19] tsk, 3am meetings ;) [17:37] hah [17:37] hello pleia2 [17:42] o/ knome [17:42] knome: I am still waking up, will you be around in ~3 hours to chat flyers? [17:42] i can be [17:43] just came home from dad's 60yo parties and a few beers with a friend after that [17:43] so it's not likely i'm crashing bed soon [17:43] i guess for normal people it might, but for me... nah. [17:47] well, I'll be around some on Sunday too just in case ;) [17:54] sunday is a bit meh for me (leaving for a cruise in the afternoon) so today is better [17:54] and i don't have any responsibilities tomorrow, so it's ok to stay up "late" [17:55] k :) [17:55] where does one cruise to up there? [17:56] tallinn or stockholm most often [17:56] we're going to stockholm [17:56] two nights on the boat, a whole day in stockholm [17:56] sounds lovely :) [17:57] going with two friends and not wife, so rather fun than lovely [21:40] evening all [21:41] hey sean [21:41] hiya pasi [21:44] what's up? [21:44] going to make the burndown look better? [21:47] knome: I might work on that tonight [21:47] or take a night to breathe [21:48] not sure which yet [21:48] mhm, that's important too [21:48] ;) [22:02] yup, i'm gonna do the latter [22:02] have to move to the new flat this weekend [22:02] so will be afk [22:02] but pushed a rather big icon commit just now [22:02] so enjoy ;) [22:03] night all! [22:06] night ochosi [22:07] ooh, the new battery icons [22:07] time to take a look at those [22:07] at some oint [22:07] point [22:41] pleia2, did you know 5 hours is not ~3 hours? :] [22:42] day flew by o_o [22:43] heh [22:43] do you still want to look at it or shall we pass it to some other day? [22:50] let's just do it [22:51] ok [22:51] i'll get my mouse [22:54] so, let me explain this process to you [22:55] since it's probably better you understand it before i make you try stuff [22:55] +1 [22:55] so if you have an .FB mode (you don't), [22:55] you can basically print out the file 1:1, and the file can be exactly the size of the paper [22:55] as you would expect really [22:55] but if you don't, we run into problems [22:56] .fb mode? [22:56] basically, your printer then refuses to print it 1:1 and then squeezes the page [22:56] even if you tell it not to squeeze to fit the page [22:56] aha [22:56] yes, .FB mode is a certain print output mode [22:56] I see [22:57] so i know we've done this before, but just to lay out the stuff [22:57] 'lpstat -a' gives you the list of your printers [22:57] 'lpoptions -l -d [device]' gives you the options for the printer in question [22:58] and that also has a list of media modes [22:58] those can be things like A4, Letter, A4.FB, Letter.FB, etc [22:58] there are likely plenty of them [22:59] it's all the sizes the printer can print to [22:59] well, at least all the preset ones... [23:00] and for completeness, if you had an FB mode for your media size, then the print command would simply be: [23:00] lp -s -d [device] -o fit-to-page -o OutputMode=Best -o Media=[media] -P 1 flyer.pdf [23:00] (simply and simply...) [23:01]