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| Zinn | Sorry I don't know about search | 03:59 |
| Shadow__X | !help | 03:59 |
| Zinn | !help For a complete list of my knowledge visit: http://www.baablogic.net/Zinn.cgi Other available commands: !status, !about, !bug [bug_number]. | 03:59 |
| Shadow__X | its almost like there is a web page | 04:03 |
| Shadow__X | http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hauppauge_WinTV-HVR-2200 | 04:03 |
| lisandro1 | hola | 17:04 |
| rwlove | hello | 18:11 |
| LordDragon | hey all. it seems my installation is completely hosed. when i try and run the frontend, i get a white screen for like 5 mins and then it just crashes. so i want to reinstall, but somehow backup all the network and tuner settings so i can import to the fresh install. is that possible? | 18:44 |
| LordDragon | hmm been googling. cant find anything useful about being stuck on white screen for mythtv frontend | 19:22 |
| Shadow__X | LordDragon: there is a script called something like mythbackup or mythdb backup that lets you backup the config from the database | 19:25 |
| Shadow__X | also, have you made sure the drivers for your gpu are installed? | 19:26 |
| Shadow__X | have you enabled the updates repo | 19:26 |
| Shadow__X | have you reset the frontend to default and reconfigure what it uses for viewing (gpu offloading,etc) | 19:26 |
| LordDragon | no i havent. is there a command to reset to defaults? | 19:27 |
| LordDragon | ok i reset it | 19:30 |
| LordDragon | its loaded. gotta go through the config now | 19:31 |
| LordDragon | working perfectly now | 19:38 |
| LordDragon | thank you SO much Shadow__X :) | 19:38 |
| Shadow__X | nice glad it works | 19:39 |
| Shadow__X | so what was the problem? | 19:39 |
| Shadow__X | ah, it was probably using some display option that didn't work | 19:39 |
| LordDragon | yeah i just reset it | 19:41 |
| LordDragon | so who knows | 19:41 |
| LordDragon | one annoying thing though is when scrolling through the program guide, its very laggy. ill scroll down a once and it will just freeze for 3 or 4 seconds before scrolling | 19:42 |
| LordDragon | what could that be? | 19:42 |
| Shadow__X | do you have your gpu drivers installed? | 19:44 |
| Shadow__X | watch cpu load when scrolling to see if there are load spies | 19:45 |
| LordDragon | it must be using the video drivers cuz its set to OpenGL output and working perfectly fine other than that | 19:46 |
| LordDragon | hmm how do you do direct channel entry into the guide? when i type a number it changes the date of the guide instead of letting me punch in a channel | 19:47 |
| Shadow__X | its an option somehwere, i don't remembner where though | 19:51 |
| Shadow__X | and which gpu do you have? | 19:51 |
| LordDragon | hmm | 19:51 |
| Shadow__X | just because opengl is working doesn't mean you are using the right driver | 19:51 |
| LordDragon | NVIDIA GeForce 9400M | 19:52 |
| Shadow__X | which os | 19:54 |
| Shadow__X | ubuntu? | 19:54 |
| Shadow__X | go into additional drivers, it will tell you if you are using the nvidia driver | 19:54 |
| LordDragon | yep | 20:03 |
| LordDragon | it says 1 in use | 20:03 |
| LordDragon | and it shows my nvidia | 20:03 |
| LordDragon | also the video is stuttering.. hmm | 20:03 |
| LordDragon | i think i fixed this before somehow but dont remember how | 20:03 |
| Shadow__X | i don't remember how you fixed it either! | 20:04 |
| LordDragon | lol | 20:06 |
| LordDragon | trying "opengl slim" | 20:08 |
| Shadow__X | if you have a 9400 you should use the nvidia gpu offloading | 20:09 |
| Shadow__X | forgot the name | 20:09 |
| Shadow__X | vdpau | 20:10 |
| LordDragon | oh yeah? | 20:11 |
| Shadow__X | yeah, vdpau uses the gpu to play the video | 20:11 |
| Shadow__X | gpu offloading | 20:11 |
| Shadow__X | https://www.mythtv.org/wiki/VDPAU | 20:11 |
| LordDragon | would you recommend high normal or slim? | 20:11 |
| LordDragon | for 9400m | 20:11 |
| Shadow__X | i think they go over the idfferent ones on the page but without researching probably slim | 20:12 |
| LordDragon | still getting occasional stutter but not neraly as bad | 20:22 |
| Shadow__X | using vdpau | 20:23 |
| LordDragon | yes | 20:25 |
| Shadow__X | hmm | 20:25 |
| Shadow__X | what does top say | 20:25 |
| LordDragon | max about 15% cpu | 20:27 |
| LordDragon | even when it stutters | 20:27 |
| Shadow__X | thats odd, does it do that on all the different options | 20:29 |
| Shadow__X | ? | 20:29 |
| LordDragon | it was worse on opengl high | 20:32 |
| LordDragon | but yes | 20:32 |
| LordDragon | backend stuff works perfect. i can watch tv from my computer using kodi with no problem | 20:35 |
| LordDragon | but the frontend stutters | 20:35 |
| LordDragon | both video and audio | 20:35 |
| LordDragon | they are very quick | 20:35 |
| LordDragon | like hiccups | 20:36 |
| LordDragon | it feels like a problem with priority | 20:38 |
| Shadow__X | never had that problem, not sure | 20:38 |
| Shadow__X | which driver is it using from additional driver | 20:38 |
| LordDragon | priorietary | 20:38 |
| Shadow__X | is it a laptop? | 20:42 |
| LordDragon | 2009 Mac Mini | 20:43 |
| LordDragon | 2.0ghz Core 2 Duo | 20:43 |
| Shadow__X | wired or wireless | 20:43 |
| LordDragon | wired | 20:43 |
| Shadow__X | backend wired too? | 20:44 |
| LordDragon | yep. backend and frontend are both on it | 20:44 |
| Shadow__X | so it plays fine, stutters than plays fine again? | 20:44 |
| LordDragon | yes | 20:45 |
| Shadow__X | and the other decoding options on the frontend do the same? | 20:45 |
| Shadow__X | did you enable auto updates repo? | 20:46 |
| LordDragon | other decoding options? you mean opengl etc ? | 20:46 |
| LordDragon | hmm it hasnt skipped in awhile after i enabled "extra audio buffering" | 20:47 |
| Shadow__X | maybe thats it then? | 20:49 |
| LordDragon | might be | 20:50 |
| LordDragon | :) | 20:50 |
| Shadow__X | might want to jot that down | 20:50 |
| LordDragon | oops. it skipped | 20:51 |
| LordDragon | at least its not very often | 20:51 |
| Shadow__X | could you add more of a buffer? | 20:51 |
| LordDragon | not sure how | 20:51 |
| Shadow__X | is your backend slammed or something? | 20:51 |
| LordDragon | shouldnt be. its not using alot of cpu | 20:52 |
| LordDragon | and no other device is using it | 20:52 |
| Shadow__X | is it skipping or hitting source errors? | 20:53 |
| Shadow__X | if you can watch the same channel on your other frontend and compare | 20:53 |
| LordDragon | yeah. i watched using my PC and kodi. the backend is solid | 20:53 |
| LordDragon | so its not the source | 20:54 |
| Shadow__X | not talking about using kodi though | 20:54 |
| Shadow__X | using mythfrontend | 20:54 |
| Shadow__X | keep the comparison as close to apples vs apples as possible | 20:54 |
| LordDragon | so install mythfrontend on a nother computer? | 21:02 |
| LordDragon | maybe i could try and play a recording back | 21:02 |
| LordDragon | and see if it stutters | 21:02 |
| Shadow__X | try a recording | 21:05 |
| Shadow__X | i thought you had mythfrontend on the backend | 21:05 |
| LordDragon | i do | 21:06 |
| LordDragon | i only have one install of mythtv | 21:08 |
| LordDragon | its on the mac mini | 21:08 |
| LordDragon | both the backend and frontend | 21:08 |
| LordDragon | on my main rig (this one) i use kodi and the mythtv addon | 21:09 |
| LordDragon | so i can access the backend on the mac mini | 21:09 |
| LordDragon | and that works flawlessly | 21:09 |
| LordDragon | in any case im taking a break | 21:09 |
| LordDragon | lol | 21:09 |
| LordDragon | its mostly working | 21:09 |
| LordDragon | it seems like some quirky driver thing | 21:10 |
| LordDragon | either with the audio or gpu | 21:10 |
| LordDragon | where it just glitches | 21:10 |
| LordDragon | hmm theres a video playback test in the setup wizard | 21:13 |
| LordDragon | maybe i should try that in a bit | 21:13 |
| LordDragon | it could be a buffering thing too | 21:13 |
| LordDragon | it might be underrunning the buffer | 21:14 |
| LordDragon | because u can puase and stuff, im guessing its playing out of some sort of buffer, and not direct from the tuner | 21:14 |
| Shadow__X | thats odd, i didn't realize the mac mini was be/fe | 21:15 |
| Shadow__X | i never had those problems | 21:15 |
| Shadow__X | i had problems with things taking a little to play because it was over wireless but not that | 21:15 |
| LordDragon | hmm | 21:28 |
| LordDragon | yeah. its odd | 21:28 |
| LordDragon | ive really been thinking about getting a NUC | 21:28 |
| Shadow__X | are you using a flash drive for storage? :D | 21:28 |
| LordDragon | and using that instead | 21:28 |
| LordDragon | haha | 21:28 |
| LordDragon | :P | 21:28 |
| LordDragon | built in 320gb hdd | 21:28 |
| Shadow__X | the nucs are ok (and the varients) if you don't care about a lot of storage | 21:29 |
| LordDragon | Shadow__X: well they have 1tb 2.5 drives | 21:29 |
| LordDragon | thats plenty for me | 21:29 |
| Shadow__X | ah ok | 21:29 |
| LordDragon | they are pricey though | 21:29 |
| Shadow__X | i think somewhere around 2-4tb for main recordings and then more than that for longer term stuff is where i am | 21:29 |
| LordDragon | like 350 bucks for just the system | 21:30 |
| Shadow__X | around $65 for 1tb 2.5 | 21:30 |
| LordDragon | yeah so over 400 | 21:30 |
| Shadow__X | do you need something nuc sized? | 21:30 |
| LordDragon | just for tv | 21:30 |
| Shadow__X | you could look into building something yourself | 21:30 |
| LordDragon | i dont think i could build a rig for less than 400 though | 21:30 |
| Shadow__X | do you pay for cable tv? | 21:31 |
| LordDragon | yes | 21:31 |
| Shadow__X | :D i am sure thats over 400 a year just for tv | 21:31 |
| Shadow__X | also, you can build a rig for under 400 | 21:31 |
| LordDragon | :P | 21:31 |
| Shadow__X | it won't be highend sure, but you could do it | 21:31 |
| LordDragon | as long as it can fit on a shelf | 21:31 |
| LordDragon | i dont need like NUC small | 21:32 |
| LordDragon | but not tower rig either | 21:32 |
| Shadow__X | pcpartpicker? | 21:32 |
| LordDragon | hmm | 21:32 |
| LordDragon | thats a neat site | 21:32 |
| Shadow__X | yup | 21:32 |
| LordDragon | https://pcpartpicker.com/guide/kfp9TW/basic-htpc-build | 21:33 |
| LordDragon | 278 bucks | 21:34 |
| LordDragon | amazing | 21:34 |
| Shadow__X | and there ya go, although i would prefer a quad core for a backend, we probably have different use cases | 21:34 |
| LordDragon | yeah? | 21:35 |
| LordDragon | so the dual core wouldnt be enough to record a show in the background while frontend is showing live tv? | 21:35 |
| Shadow__X | thats fine | 21:35 |
| Shadow__X | my offline backend has a core 2 duo e8400 (it is long over due to retirement) | 21:36 |
| Shadow__X | but dual core isn't enough for transcoding | 21:36 |
| Shadow__X | well for me it isn't atleast | 21:36 |
| LordDragon | ahh ok | 21:37 |
| LordDragon | i wouldnt be doing transcoding | 21:37 |
| LordDragon | which cpu woud you recommend? there a several amd 4 core | 21:38 |
| Shadow__X | none off the top of my head | 21:38 |
| Shadow__X | i haven't looked at that line up too closely in a while | 21:38 |
| LordDragon | i dont know anytyhing about amd | 21:38 |
| Shadow__X | just keep in mind the nuc will use less electricity at idle than the machine you build | 21:39 |
| Shadow__X | there are trade offs | 21:39 |
| Shadow__X | the nucs use laptop parts | 21:39 |
| LordDragon | https://pcpartpicker.com/part/amd-cpu-ad580kwohjbox | 21:39 |
| LordDragon | i doubt it will use more power than the HUGE dvr box my cable company gave me before :P | 21:40 |
| Shadow__X | just because its huge doesn't mean it uses a bunch of electricity, have you put a watt metere on it? | 21:42 |
| LordDragon | i returned in when i got my hdhomerun | 21:42 |
| LordDragon | but it was loud and had a full size 3.5 inch hdd | 21:42 |
| Shadow__X | gotcha | 21:43 |
| LordDragon | on the other hand, im sure it didnt have anything as powerful as that amd cpu | 21:43 |
| LordDragon | and amd are very power hungry | 21:43 |
| Shadow__X | well yes and no | 21:44 |
| Shadow__X | at idle they are competitive with intel | 21:44 |
| Shadow__X | under load not really but i don't know how the fm2 line fall into that | 21:44 |
| Shadow__X | i have an fx8320 that idles close to my intel parts | 21:44 |
| Shadow__X | but under load it uses more electricity | 21:44 |
| LordDragon | hmm | 21:45 |
| LordDragon | 300 bucks for a complete system though | 21:45 |
| LordDragon | thats awesome | 21:45 |
| LordDragon | i didnt know it could be done for so cheap | 21:46 |
| Shadow__X | yup, you don't need to spend 1k | 21:46 |
| Shadow__X | you could probably go intel at that price point too if you wanted | 21:47 |
| Shadow__X | but probably not an i3 | 21:47 |
| LordDragon | iw as thinking that pentium anniversary one | 21:48 |
| LordDragon | that was cheap but fairly powerful | 21:48 |
| Shadow__X | if its the one i am thinking off you can oc it too | 21:50 |
| Shadow__X | if you live my a microcenter they had a deal on them with a motherboard | 21:50 |
| Shadow__X | not sure if thats still going on | 21:50 |
| LordDragon | hmm that site is saying intel htpc is more like 500 | 21:51 |
| Shadow__X | don't listen then! | 21:52 |
| LordDragon | dude!! | 21:54 |
| LordDragon | $64.89 | 21:54 |
| LordDragon | for G3258 | 21:54 |
| LordDragon | great deal | 21:54 |
| LordDragon | i dont think it has hyperthreading though | 21:54 |
| LordDragon | so 2 threads only | 21:54 |
| LordDragon | would that be enough? 3.2 ghz with overclockability | 21:55 |
| Shadow__X | LordDragon: pentium dual core with z97 mb that you can overclock | 21:57 |
| Shadow__X | http://pcpartpicker.com/p/6W9fBm | 21:57 |
| Shadow__X | 307 | 21:58 |
| LordDragon | i was doing that same thing | 21:59 |
| LordDragon | except looking for a bit better of a mobo | 21:59 |
| LordDragon | i thought asrock were very unreliable | 21:59 |
| Shadow_X1 | ok back | 22:01 |
| Shadow_X1 | i was going to say that the amd chips can oc as well | 22:01 |
| Shadow_X1 | the pentium i linked to with the z97 mb can oc | 22:01 |
| Shadow_X1 | i had to switch nicks, my vps will be doing down soon | 22:03 |
| LordDragon | ah ok | 22:07 |
| LordDragon | i thought asrock were very unreliable? | 22:07 |
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