[03:59] !search [03:59] Sorry I don't know about search [03:59] !help [03:59] !help For a complete list of my knowledge visit: http://www.baablogic.net/Zinn.cgi Other available commands: !status, !about, !bug [bug_number]. [04:03] its almost like there is a web page [04:03] http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hauppauge_WinTV-HVR-2200 [17:04] hola [18:11] hello [18:44] hey all. it seems my installation is completely hosed. when i try and run the frontend, i get a white screen for like 5 mins and then it just crashes. so i want to reinstall, but somehow backup all the network and tuner settings so i can import to the fresh install. is that possible? [19:22] hmm been googling. cant find anything useful about being stuck on white screen for mythtv frontend [19:25] LordDragon: there is a script called something like mythbackup or mythdb backup that lets you backup the config from the database [19:26] also, have you made sure the drivers for your gpu are installed? [19:26] have you enabled the updates repo [19:26] have you reset the frontend to default and reconfigure what it uses for viewing (gpu offloading,etc) [19:27] no i havent. is there a command to reset to defaults? [19:30] ok i reset it [19:31] its loaded. gotta go through the config now [19:38] working perfectly now [19:38] thank you SO much Shadow__X :) [19:39] nice glad it works [19:39] so what was the problem? [19:39] ah, it was probably using some display option that didn't work [19:41] yeah i just reset it [19:41] so who knows [19:42] one annoying thing though is when scrolling through the program guide, its very laggy. ill scroll down a once and it will just freeze for 3 or 4 seconds before scrolling [19:42] what could that be? [19:44] do you have your gpu drivers installed? [19:45] watch cpu load when scrolling to see if there are load spies [19:46] it must be using the video drivers cuz its set to OpenGL output and working perfectly fine other than that [19:47] hmm how do you do direct channel entry into the guide? when i type a number it changes the date of the guide instead of letting me punch in a channel [19:51] its an option somehwere, i don't remembner where though [19:51] and which gpu do you have? [19:51] hmm [19:51] just because opengl is working doesn't mean you are using the right driver [19:52] NVIDIA GeForce 9400M [19:54] which os [19:54] ubuntu? [19:54] go into additional drivers, it will tell you if you are using the nvidia driver [20:03] yep [20:03] it says 1 in use [20:03] and it shows my nvidia [20:03] also the video is stuttering.. hmm [20:03] i think i fixed this before somehow but dont remember how [20:04] i don't remember how you fixed it either! [20:06] lol [20:08] trying "opengl slim" [20:09] if you have a 9400 you should use the nvidia gpu offloading [20:09] forgot the name [20:10] vdpau [20:11] oh yeah? [20:11] yeah, vdpau uses the gpu to play the video [20:11] gpu offloading [20:11] https://www.mythtv.org/wiki/VDPAU [20:11] would you recommend high normal or slim? [20:11] for 9400m [20:12] i think they go over the idfferent ones on the page but without researching probably slim [20:22] still getting occasional stutter but not neraly as bad [20:23] using vdpau [20:25] yes [20:25] hmm [20:25] what does top say [20:27] max about 15% cpu [20:27] even when it stutters [20:29] thats odd, does it do that on all the different options [20:29] ? [20:32] it was worse on opengl high [20:32] but yes [20:35] backend stuff works perfect. i can watch tv from my computer using kodi with no problem [20:35] but the frontend stutters [20:35] both video and audio [20:35] they are very quick [20:36] like hiccups [20:38] it feels like a problem with priority [20:38] never had that problem, not sure [20:38] which driver is it using from additional driver [20:38] priorietary [20:42] is it a laptop? [20:43] 2009 Mac Mini [20:43] 2.0ghz Core 2 Duo [20:43] wired or wireless [20:43] wired [20:44] backend wired too? [20:44] yep. backend and frontend are both on it [20:44] so it plays fine, stutters than plays fine again? [20:45] yes [20:45] and the other decoding options on the frontend do the same? [20:46] did you enable auto updates repo? [20:46] other decoding options? you mean opengl etc ? [20:47] hmm it hasnt skipped in awhile after i enabled "extra audio buffering" [20:49] maybe thats it then? [20:50] might be [20:50] :) [20:50] might want to jot that down [20:51] oops. it skipped [20:51] at least its not very often [20:51] could you add more of a buffer? [20:51] not sure how [20:51] is your backend slammed or something? [20:52] shouldnt be. its not using alot of cpu [20:52] and no other device is using it [20:53] is it skipping or hitting source errors? [20:53] if you can watch the same channel on your other frontend and compare [20:53] yeah. i watched using my PC and kodi. the backend is solid [20:54] so its not the source [20:54] not talking about using kodi though [20:54] using mythfrontend [20:54] keep the comparison as close to apples vs apples as possible [21:02] so install mythfrontend on a nother computer? [21:02] maybe i could try and play a recording back [21:02] and see if it stutters [21:05] try a recording [21:05] i thought you had mythfrontend on the backend [21:06] i do [21:08] i only have one install of mythtv [21:08] its on the mac mini [21:08] both the backend and frontend [21:09] on my main rig (this one) i use kodi and the mythtv addon [21:09] so i can access the backend on the mac mini [21:09] and that works flawlessly [21:09] in any case im taking a break [21:09] lol [21:09] its mostly working [21:10] it seems like some quirky driver thing [21:10] either with the audio or gpu [21:10] where it just glitches [21:13] hmm theres a video playback test in the setup wizard [21:13] maybe i should try that in a bit [21:13] it could be a buffering thing too [21:14] it might be underrunning the buffer [21:14] because u can puase and stuff, im guessing its playing out of some sort of buffer, and not direct from the tuner [21:15] thats odd, i didn't realize the mac mini was be/fe [21:15] i never had those problems [21:15] i had problems with things taking a little to play because it was over wireless but not that [21:28] hmm [21:28] yeah. its odd [21:28] ive really been thinking about getting a NUC [21:28] are you using a flash drive for storage? :D [21:28] and using that instead [21:28] haha [21:28] :P [21:28] built in 320gb hdd [21:29] the nucs are ok (and the varients) if you don't care about a lot of storage [21:29] Shadow__X: well they have 1tb 2.5 drives [21:29] thats plenty for me [21:29] ah ok [21:29] they are pricey though [21:29] i think somewhere around 2-4tb for main recordings and then more than that for longer term stuff is where i am [21:30] like 350 bucks for just the system [21:30] around $65 for 1tb 2.5 [21:30] yeah so over 400 [21:30] do you need something nuc sized? [21:30] just for tv [21:30] you could look into building something yourself [21:30] i dont think i could build a rig for less than 400 though [21:31] do you pay for cable tv? [21:31] yes [21:31] :D i am sure thats over 400 a year just for tv [21:31] also, you can build a rig for under 400 [21:31] :P [21:31] it won't be highend sure, but you could do it [21:31] as long as it can fit on a shelf [21:32] i dont need like NUC small [21:32] but not tower rig either [21:32] pcpartpicker? [21:32] hmm [21:32] thats a neat site [21:32] yup [21:33] https://pcpartpicker.com/guide/kfp9TW/basic-htpc-build [21:34] 278 bucks [21:34] amazing [21:34] and there ya go, although i would prefer a quad core for a backend, we probably have different use cases [21:35] yeah? [21:35] so the dual core wouldnt be enough to record a show in the background while frontend is showing live tv? [21:35] thats fine [21:36] my offline backend has a core 2 duo e8400 (it is long over due to retirement) [21:36] but dual core isn't enough for transcoding [21:36] well for me it isn't atleast [21:37] ahh ok [21:37] i wouldnt be doing transcoding [21:38] which cpu woud you recommend? there a several amd 4 core [21:38] none off the top of my head [21:38] i haven't looked at that line up too closely in a while [21:38] i dont know anytyhing about amd [21:39] just keep in mind the nuc will use less electricity at idle than the machine you build [21:39] there are trade offs [21:39] the nucs use laptop parts [21:39] https://pcpartpicker.com/part/amd-cpu-ad580kwohjbox [21:40] i doubt it will use more power than the HUGE dvr box my cable company gave me before :P [21:42] just because its huge doesn't mean it uses a bunch of electricity, have you put a watt metere on it? [21:42] i returned in when i got my hdhomerun [21:42] but it was loud and had a full size 3.5 inch hdd [21:43] gotcha [21:43] on the other hand, im sure it didnt have anything as powerful as that amd cpu [21:43] and amd are very power hungry [21:44] well yes and no [21:44] at idle they are competitive with intel [21:44] under load not really but i don't know how the fm2 line fall into that [21:44] i have an fx8320 that idles close to my intel parts [21:44] but under load it uses more electricity [21:45] hmm [21:45] 300 bucks for a complete system though [21:45] thats awesome [21:46] i didnt know it could be done for so cheap [21:46] yup, you don't need to spend 1k [21:47] you could probably go intel at that price point too if you wanted [21:47] but probably not an i3 [21:48] iw as thinking that pentium anniversary one [21:48] that was cheap but fairly powerful [21:50] if its the one i am thinking off you can oc it too [21:50] if you live my a microcenter they had a deal on them with a motherboard [21:50] not sure if thats still going on [21:51] hmm that site is saying intel htpc is more like 500 [21:52] don't listen then! [21:54] dude!! [21:54] $64.89 [21:54] for G3258 [21:54] great deal [21:54] i dont think it has hyperthreading though [21:54] so 2 threads only [21:55] would that be enough? 3.2 ghz with overclockability [21:57] LordDragon: pentium dual core with z97 mb that you can overclock [21:57] http://pcpartpicker.com/p/6W9fBm [21:58] 307 [21:59] i was doing that same thing [21:59] except looking for a bit better of a mobo [21:59] i thought asrock were very unreliable [22:01] ok back [22:01] i was going to say that the amd chips can oc as well [22:01] the pentium i linked to with the z97 mb can oc [22:03] i had to switch nicks, my vps will be doing down soon [22:07] ah ok [22:07] i thought asrock were very unreliable?