| tsimonq2 | Hey, is anyone active here, or just idling... | 13:45 |
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| tsimonq2 | Give me a ping! | 13:49 |
| tsimonq2 | PM or ping works | 13:49 |
| Mikaela | hi | 13:51 |
| Mikaela | tsimonq2: ping | 13:51 |
| Mikaela | this channel is mostly very inactive though | 13:51 |
| tsimonq2 | Mikaela: Hi...sorry for the late response, when I work(study for beginning of the year exams) I idle... | 15:25 |
| tsimonq2 | Mikaela: So what does this team do? | 15:25 |
| tsimonq2 | Mikaela: And how can I be involved? | 15:25 |
| Mikaela | tsimonq2: hi, sorry for my late response this time as I was in sauna. | 16:18 |
| Mikaela | tsimonq2: this team should be helping youth to contribute into Ubuntu and FOSS and as I said it has been very quiet lately. Getting involved would probably be just talking here, I guess, but as said it's a little inactive. Getting involved might be easier with http://linuxpadawan.net/ (I have never been there so I don't know if they are any more alive, but they have been mentioned sometimes) | 16:18 |
| Mikaela | oh and the link in topic allows you to join, but the mailing list is as silent as this channel or even more so | 16:18 |
| tsimonq2 | I am familiar with the Linux Padawan site... | 17:18 |
| tsimonq2 | Can I maybe...I don't know...help make it more active? | 17:18 |
| tsimonq2 | Mikaela | 17:18 |
| Mikaela | just general talking would help making it more active, but I am a little wrong person for it as I have difficulties with social skills and I don't know how to talk even at IRC | 17:19 |
| tsimonq2 | Hmm...who is the head of this team? | 17:21 |
| tsimonq2 | Mikaela | 17:21 |
| Mikaela | that is a good question, I don't know, maybe it reads at launchpad | 17:22 |
| tsimonq2 | When did you join this team, Mikaela? | 17:22 |
| Mikaela | philipballew https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-youth-council | 17:22 |
| Mikaela | 2010-12-18, it was a lot more active by that time and there were regular meetings and everything | 17:23 |
| Mikaela | (Launchpad is very helpful, it can tell all dates so you don't have to remember :)) | 17:23 |
| tsimonq2 | Because I would like to help make it more active :) | 17:24 |
| tsimonq2 | So I would contact philipballew? | 17:24 |
| Mikaela | they are on this channel so just waiting could work | 17:24 |
| tsimonq2 | Or to be impatient I can message him XD | 17:25 |
| Mikaela | it seems that they have been idle for two hours soon, /whois philipballew philipballew | 17:25 |
| philipballew | pinging me work | 17:25 |
| tsimonq2 | Hello! | 17:25 |
| tsimonq2 | Can you read the above messages? | 17:25 |
| Mikaela | hi | 17:25 |
| philipballew | im just watching netflix, and I let irc idle | 17:25 |
| tsimonq2 | philipballew: You mind reading the above messages to know what is going on? | 17:25 |
| philipballew | you want to know more about the group I see | 17:26 |
| tsimonq2 | Yes | 17:26 |
| tsimonq2 | And if it is dead, to bring it back to life | 17:26 |
| philipballew | tsimonq2, I think there are already other ubuntu comunities that are thriving, why do we need to have this one as well? | 17:27 |
| tsimonq2 | Well, to work towards the goal! | 17:27 |
| Mikaela | because none else is targeted towards youth | 17:28 |
| tsimonq2 | Is there a substitute for this community... | 17:28 |
| tsimonq2 | philipballew: If you have a closed mind towards it, I can help :) | 17:28 |
| tsimonq2 | I think this community NEEDS to exist | 17:29 |
| tsimonq2 | I just think it needs to be more popular | 17:29 |
| Mikaela | the nearest equivalent would probably be #ubuntu-gaming which was also dead last time I checked. I just went through https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Teams | 17:30 |
| Mikaela | from where Youth is missing? | 17:30 |
| tsimonq2 | I think a lot off communities need reincarnating | 17:30 |
| philipballew | tsimonq2, I just dont see the point on an irc bassed community f | 17:30 |
| Mikaela | where should the community be then? | 17:30 |
| tsimonq2 | philipballew: Then leave and let others who think it is a valuble idea take over... | 17:31 |
| tsimonq2 | Closed mind = no progress | 17:31 |
| Mikaela | I don't think there is anyone who could take over | 17:31 |
| * tsimonq2 coughs loudly | 17:32 | |
| tsimonq2 | ahem | 17:32 |
| tsimonq2 | Maybe I could... | 17:32 |
| philipballew | i think what the ubunu community needs is to unite and not separate into different groups. | 17:32 |
| tsimonq2 | Your opinion... | 17:33 |
| tsimonq2 | MY opinion is that this just needs to be brought back to life... | 17:33 |
| Mikaela | I don't know how new person appearing from middle of nowhere works (sorry) and step 0 is https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SigningCodeofConduct | 17:34 |
| Mikaela | philipballew: I can agree with that, but it seems a little difficult as some people become more afraid of talking the larger amount of people there is on channel | 17:34 |
| philipballew | yeah, thats true Mikaela. I sometimes forget some people are shy people as I am about as outgoing as it gets | 17:35 |
| tsimonq2 | I think that this community is a good idea. A wonderful idea. And the fact that the head of the community doesn't think it has potential kinda irks me...if I can do anything about it, I will... | 17:36 |
| tsimonq2 | At least from what I have heard... | 17:36 |
| tsimonq2 | If you do think that this can be brought back to life, by all means, go ahead :) | 17:36 |
| Mikaela | I personally wouldn't have gotten anywhere involved in Ubuntu or IRC without Ubuntu YOuth existing | 17:36 |
| tsimonq2 | Exactly... | 17:37 |
| Mikaela | not that I have done anything useful, but no other distribution that I have used has given me the feeling of being part of any community related to it | 17:37 |
| tsimonq2 | So if you don't think it has potential, philipballew, then you can pass it to me or someone else who cares | 17:37 |
| tsimonq2 | Mikaela: I have become a strong part of the Lubuntu QA team... | 17:38 |
| tsimonq2 | I have had many a chat with wxl and others... | 17:38 |
| Mikaela | I have just been in IRC meetings of UW and talked on -FI when I have known something to say and been on the -teams channel and once been in release party (but being too shy to say almost anything) | 17:39 |
| philipballew | tsimonq2, Im not saying youre not welcome to give it a go, but I am saying that you would do better with a croup directly contribuiting to ubuntu directly, instead of a group that serves itself like this seems to be | 17:39 |
| tsimonq2 | And I am in one | 17:39 |
| Mikaela | at the moment I would argue that this group doesn't serve anyone by just being here and dead | 17:39 |
| tsimonq2 | And I think that this group can help people with that :) | 17:39 |
| tsimonq2 | EXACTLY Mikaela | 17:39 |
| tsimonq2 | I agree fully | 17:39 |
| philipballew | yeah, its dead now | 17:41 |
| tsimonq2 | Then pass it along | 17:41 |
| philipballew | but why bring it alive? | 17:41 |
| philipballew | I just dont see the point is all I am saying | 17:41 |
| tsimonq2 | Just because you have reason against it doesn't mean I do... | 17:41 |
| philipballew | tsimonq2, can you answer my questions please? | 17:41 |
| tsimonq2 | Because a community like this is essential for the growth of Ubuntu... | 17:42 |
| Mikaela | there should be some group which is welcoming and can also direct to other groups which was the original purpouse from what I have understood | 17:42 |
| tsimonq2 | Let's just put it that way... | 17:42 |
| tsimonq2 | YES | 17:42 |
| philipballew | I think the group would do better on a non irc based medium | 17:42 |
| tsimonq2 | Shall we take this to the Community Council? I am fully prepared to... | 17:42 |
| Mikaela | what is the non irc based medium? | 17:42 |
| tsimonq2 | IRC works best for me... | 17:43 |
| philipballew | Im just saying you would attract a better audiance if you lower the technical level to join the group. | 17:43 |
| Mikaela | same for me, I do everything at IRC and I am scared of mailing lists and I just don't understand other protocols like FB or Steam groups (which I think you might be soon suggesting) | 17:43 |
| tsimonq2 | Yes... | 17:44 |
| Mikaela | https://kiwiirc.com/client/irc.freenode.net:+6697/#ubuntu-youth how much technical level is required to click this? | 17:44 |
| tsimonq2 | Exactly... | 17:44 |
| tsimonq2 | And then later get help to move to something like irssi? | 17:44 |
| tsimonq2 | Like I am doing right now... | 17:44 |
| Mikaela | I would start with HexChat after that and then go to WeeChat as irssi is missing IRCv3 support entirely without third party scripts. http://ircv3.net/ | 17:45 |
| tsimonq2 | I have learned a lot so far, and I would have loved a community of peers to share my knowledge with | 17:45 |
| philipballew | a fair amount when the user is unfamiliar to the system. tsimonq2 people dont need to use irssi | 17:45 |
| tsimonq2 | But still...you get my point :P | 17:45 |
| philipballew | people do not need to be command line people | 17:45 |
| philipballew | that is the mindset that scares people away from the ubuntu community | 17:45 |
| Mikaela | HexChat is GUI and very popular | 17:46 |
| philipballew | we dont need to make sure all ubuntu users and programers irc lovers, or command line gurus | 17:46 |
| Mikaela | then it's back to the question what is the other medium? | 17:46 |
| philipballew | I'd say utilize social media myself | 17:47 |
| tsimonq2 | Mikaela philipballew The original question here was, are we going to reincarnate this team? | 17:47 |
| Mikaela | Ubuntu Youth is already in social media and nothing is happening there | 17:47 |
| tsimonq2 | Or are we not? | 17:47 |
| philipballew | have a reddit page or facebook group page for people to discover the group, post articles, and then have this page as a place for some people to go and chat | 17:47 |
| Mikaela | yes, but if there is some medium that really can function better than IRC, it's worth knowing | 17:47 |
| tsimonq2 | We already have that...nobody is maintaining it...I just want to know who will maintain it... | 17:48 |
| philipballew | my lug uses facebook and it has worked the best for finding new people | 17:48 |
| philipballew | I dont have any passwords for any groups that are online currently, | 17:48 |
| philipballew | but id start fresh | 17:48 |
| philipballew | anyone who was a youth then, is not now | 17:48 |
| Mikaela | what is the definition of youth by the way? | 17:49 |
| tsimonq2 | Under 18 I think :P | 17:49 |
| tsimonq2 | Mikaela philipballew The original question here was, are we going to reincarnate this team? | 17:50 |
| Mikaela | oh, two weeks and I am 20, but I did join in 2010 or what did I say | 17:50 |
| tsimonq2 | Or are we not? | 17:50 |
| philipballew | Mikaela, yeah, im 23 | 17:50 |
| tsimonq2 | 13 guys, 13 :P | 17:50 |
| philipballew | were old here | 17:50 |
| Mikaela | I don't have any abilities that would be needed | 17:50 |
| philipballew | tsimonq2, can you be on irc any younger that that? | 17:50 |
| tsimonq2 | Nope XD | 17:50 |
| philipballew | tsimonq2, where are you from? | 17:51 |
| tsimonq2 | I don't think... | 17:51 |
| Mikaela | yes, I know people at IRC who have been 10 or so when they came and still know them | 17:51 |
| tsimonq2 | Wisconsin | 17:51 |
| philipballew | tsimonq2, sounds cold | 17:51 |
| tsimonq2 | I brought life back to the Wisconsin LoCo team... | 17:51 |
| tsimonq2 | Nah... | 17:51 |
| tsimonq2 | :P | 17:51 |
| philipballew | seems chill | 17:52 |
| tsimonq2 | What, do you live on the eqautor? | 17:52 |
| tsimonq2 | *equator | 17:52 |
| Mikaela | my geography isn't working and I have no idea where that is, but I am freezing everywhere. | 17:52 |
| tsimonq2 | Mikaela: The middle of the earth, the hottest | 17:52 |
| philipballew | tsimonq2, San Diego | 17:52 |
| tsimonq2 | EXACTLY | 17:53 |
| Mikaela | it might be a little difficult to reach | 17:53 |
| Mikaela | oh, Kotka, Finland and hopefully soon Helsinki, Finland | 17:53 |
| philipballew | walk! | 17:53 |
| tsimonq2 | Anyways, what were we talking about? | 17:53 |
| philipballew | Mikaela, leaving the old life behind and moving to the big city? | 17:53 |
| Mikaela | that and actually getting help to my issues and having friends and everything | 17:54 |
| Mikaela | tsimonq2: reincarnating or not and who can do that? | 17:54 |
| philipballew | Mikaela, friends are needed in this life no matter what people say I think. | 17:54 |
| tsimonq2 | Mikaela: Me! I reincarnated my LoCo team(sorta XD) | 17:54 |
| Mikaela | if you are interested, https://mikaela.info/about#life but it's not happy reading | 17:54 |
| philipballew | Im not sure how that would work | 17:55 |
| tsimonq2 | And why do we have a council? | 17:55 |
| tsimonq2 | Why do we need a council? | 17:55 |
| Mikaela | it's just impossible for me the time I don't feel everyone hates me I feel everyone wants me away from wherever I am | 17:55 |
| tsimonq2 | We just evaporate the council, add you(maybe me XD) as admin, and get it rolling! | 17:56 |
| tsimonq2 | philipballew, it's that straightforward XD | 17:57 |
| tsimonq2 | philipballew: Should we(or I if you don't want to) do it? | 17:57 |
| tsimonq2 | philipballew: Or are we gonna take this to the Community Council? | 17:57 |
| tsimonq2 | philipballew: Your choice | 17:58 |
| philipballew | why would we take it to the community council? | 17:58 |
| tsimonq2 | If you were to refuse to hand it over and to just let it die... | 17:58 |
| tsimonq2 | THAT would be a reason to go to the council... | 17:58 |
| tsimonq2 | philipballew: Your choice...what is going to happen? | 17:59 |
| philipballew | tsimonq2, there is no need to threaten me | 18:00 |
| tsimonq2 | philipballew: I am not threatening you... | 18:00 |
| tsimonq2 | philipballew: And I apologise if it looked that way... | 18:00 |
| tsimonq2 | philipballew: I ask you again, what is your verdict? | 18:01 |
| philipballew | well I dont see a need for ultimatums here. | 18:01 |
| philipballew | tsimonq2, im pretty busy today on stuff, but ping me sometime this next week and we can figure out how to get a project going for you here | 18:02 |
| philipballew | :) | 18:02 |
| tsimonq2 | philipballew: So I will be head? | 18:02 |
| tsimonq2 | philipballew: That is what you are saying? | 18:02 |
| tsimonq2 | philipballew: Or are you just going to fit me in... | 18:03 |
| tsimonq2 | philipballew: Where I am needed... | 18:03 |
| tsimonq2 | philipballew: It's awesome either way, I just need clarification... | 18:03 |
| tsimonq2 | philipballew | 18:05 |
| tsimonq2 | philipballew! | 18:08 |
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