[13:45] Hey, is anyone active here, or just idling... [13:49] Give me a ping! [13:49] PM or ping works [13:51] hi [13:51] tsimonq2: ping [13:51] this channel is mostly very inactive though [15:25] Mikaela: Hi...sorry for the late response, when I work(study for beginning of the year exams) I idle... [15:25] Mikaela: So what does this team do? [15:25] Mikaela: And how can I be involved? [16:18] tsimonq2: hi, sorry for my late response this time as I was in sauna. [16:18] tsimonq2: this team should be helping youth to contribute into Ubuntu and FOSS and as I said it has been very quiet lately. Getting involved would probably be just talking here, I guess, but as said it's a little inactive. Getting involved might be easier with http://linuxpadawan.net/ (I have never been there so I don't know if they are any more alive, but they have been mentioned sometimes) [16:18] oh and the link in topic allows you to join, but the mailing list is as silent as this channel or even more so [17:18] I am familiar with the Linux Padawan site... [17:18] Can I maybe...I don't know...help make it more active? [17:18] Mikaela [17:19] just general talking would help making it more active, but I am a little wrong person for it as I have difficulties with social skills and I don't know how to talk even at IRC [17:21] Hmm...who is the head of this team? [17:21] Mikaela [17:22] that is a good question, I don't know, maybe it reads at launchpad [17:22] When did you join this team, Mikaela? [17:22] philipballew https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-youth-council [17:23] 2010-12-18, it was a lot more active by that time and there were regular meetings and everything [17:23] (Launchpad is very helpful, it can tell all dates so you don't have to remember :)) [17:24] Because I would like to help make it more active :) [17:24] So I would contact philipballew? [17:24] they are on this channel so just waiting could work [17:25] Or to be impatient I can message him XD [17:25] it seems that they have been idle for two hours soon, /whois philipballew philipballew [17:25] pinging me work [17:25] Hello! [17:25] Can you read the above messages? [17:25] hi [17:25] im just watching netflix, and I let irc idle [17:25] philipballew: You mind reading the above messages to know what is going on? [17:26] you want to know more about the group I see [17:26] Yes [17:26] And if it is dead, to bring it back to life [17:27] tsimonq2, I think there are already other ubuntu comunities that are thriving, why do we need to have this one as well? [17:27] Well, to work towards the goal! [17:28] because none else is targeted towards youth [17:28] Is there a substitute for this community... [17:28] philipballew: If you have a closed mind towards it, I can help :) [17:29] I think this community NEEDS to exist [17:29] I just think it needs to be more popular [17:30] the nearest equivalent would probably be #ubuntu-gaming which was also dead last time I checked. I just went through https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Teams [17:30] from where Youth is missing? [17:30] I think a lot off communities need reincarnating [17:30] tsimonq2, I just dont see the point on an irc bassed community f [17:30] where should the community be then? [17:31] philipballew: Then leave and let others who think it is a valuble idea take over... [17:31] Closed mind = no progress [17:31] I don't think there is anyone who could take over [17:32] * tsimonq2 coughs loudly [17:32] ahem [17:32] Maybe I could... [17:32] i think what the ubunu community needs is to unite and not separate into different groups. [17:33] Your opinion... [17:33] MY opinion is that this just needs to be brought back to life... [17:34] I don't know how new person appearing from middle of nowhere works (sorry) and step 0 is https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SigningCodeofConduct [17:34] philipballew: I can agree with that, but it seems a little difficult as some people become more afraid of talking the larger amount of people there is on channel [17:35] yeah, thats true Mikaela. I sometimes forget some people are shy people as I am about as outgoing as it gets [17:36] I think that this community is a good idea. A wonderful idea. And the fact that the head of the community doesn't think it has potential kinda irks me...if I can do anything about it, I will... [17:36] At least from what I have heard... [17:36] If you do think that this can be brought back to life, by all means, go ahead :) [17:36] I personally wouldn't have gotten anywhere involved in Ubuntu or IRC without Ubuntu YOuth existing [17:37] Exactly... [17:37] not that I have done anything useful, but no other distribution that I have used has given me the feeling of being part of any community related to it [17:37] So if you don't think it has potential, philipballew, then you can pass it to me or someone else who cares [17:38] Mikaela: I have become a strong part of the Lubuntu QA team... [17:38] I have had many a chat with wxl and others... [17:39] I have just been in IRC meetings of UW and talked on -FI when I have known something to say and been on the -teams channel and once been in release party (but being too shy to say almost anything) [17:39] tsimonq2, Im not saying youre not welcome to give it a go, but I am saying that you would do better with a croup directly contribuiting to ubuntu directly, instead of a group that serves itself like this seems to be [17:39] And I am in one [17:39] at the moment I would argue that this group doesn't serve anyone by just being here and dead [17:39] And I think that this group can help people with that :) [17:39] EXACTLY Mikaela [17:39] I agree fully [17:41] yeah, its dead now [17:41] Then pass it along [17:41] but why bring it alive? [17:41] I just dont see the point is all I am saying [17:41] Just because you have reason against it doesn't mean I do... [17:41] tsimonq2, can you answer my questions please? [17:42] Because a community like this is essential for the growth of Ubuntu... [17:42] there should be some group which is welcoming and can also direct to other groups which was the original purpouse from what I have understood [17:42] Let's just put it that way... [17:42] YES [17:42] I think the group would do better on a non irc based medium [17:42] Shall we take this to the Community Council? I am fully prepared to... [17:42] what is the non irc based medium? [17:43] IRC works best for me... [17:43] Im just saying you would attract a better audiance if you lower the technical level to join the group. [17:43] same for me, I do everything at IRC and I am scared of mailing lists and I just don't understand other protocols like FB or Steam groups (which I think you might be soon suggesting) [17:44] Yes... [17:44] https://kiwiirc.com/client/irc.freenode.net:+6697/#ubuntu-youth how much technical level is required to click this? [17:44] Exactly... [17:44] And then later get help to move to something like irssi? [17:44] Like I am doing right now... [17:45] I would start with HexChat after that and then go to WeeChat as irssi is missing IRCv3 support entirely without third party scripts. http://ircv3.net/ [17:45] I have learned a lot so far, and I would have loved a community of peers to share my knowledge with [17:45] a fair amount when the user is unfamiliar to the system. tsimonq2 people dont need to use irssi [17:45] But still...you get my point :P [17:45] people do not need to be command line people [17:45] that is the mindset that scares people away from the ubuntu community [17:46] HexChat is GUI and very popular [17:46] we dont need to make sure all ubuntu users and programers irc lovers, or command line gurus [17:46] then it's back to the question what is the other medium? [17:47] I'd say utilize social media myself [17:47] Mikaela philipballew The original question here was, are we going to reincarnate this team? [17:47] Ubuntu Youth is already in social media and nothing is happening there [17:47] Or are we not? [17:47] have a reddit page or facebook group page for people to discover the group, post articles, and then have this page as a place for some people to go and chat [17:47] yes, but if there is some medium that really can function better than IRC, it's worth knowing [17:48] We already have that...nobody is maintaining it...I just want to know who will maintain it... [17:48] my lug uses facebook and it has worked the best for finding new people [17:48] I dont have any passwords for any groups that are online currently, [17:48] but id start fresh [17:48] anyone who was a youth then, is not now [17:49] what is the definition of youth by the way? [17:49] Under 18 I think :P [17:50] Mikaela philipballew The original question here was, are we going to reincarnate this team? [17:50] oh, two weeks and I am 20, but I did join in 2010 or what did I say [17:50] Or are we not? [17:50] Mikaela, yeah, im 23 [17:50] 13 guys, 13 :P [17:50] were old here [17:50] I don't have any abilities that would be needed [17:50] tsimonq2, can you be on irc any younger that that? [17:50] Nope XD [17:51] tsimonq2, where are you from? [17:51] I don't think... [17:51] yes, I know people at IRC who have been 10 or so when they came and still know them [17:51] Wisconsin [17:51] tsimonq2, sounds cold [17:51] I brought life back to the Wisconsin LoCo team... [17:51] Nah... [17:51] :P [17:52] seems chill [17:52] What, do you live on the eqautor? [17:52] *equator [17:52] my geography isn't working and I have no idea where that is, but I am freezing everywhere. [17:52] Mikaela: The middle of the earth, the hottest [17:52] tsimonq2, San Diego [17:53] EXACTLY [17:53] it might be a little difficult to reach [17:53] oh, Kotka, Finland and hopefully soon Helsinki, Finland [17:53] walk! [17:53] Anyways, what were we talking about? [17:53] Mikaela, leaving the old life behind and moving to the big city? [17:54] that and actually getting help to my issues and having friends and everything [17:54] tsimonq2: reincarnating or not and who can do that? [17:54] Mikaela, friends are needed in this life no matter what people say I think. [17:54] Mikaela: Me! I reincarnated my LoCo team(sorta XD) [17:54] if you are interested, https://mikaela.info/about#life but it's not happy reading [17:55] Im not sure how that would work [17:55] And why do we have a council? [17:55] Why do we need a council? [17:55] it's just impossible for me the time I don't feel everyone hates me I feel everyone wants me away from wherever I am [17:56] We just evaporate the council, add you(maybe me XD) as admin, and get it rolling! [17:57] philipballew, it's that straightforward XD [17:57] philipballew: Should we(or I if you don't want to) do it? [17:57] philipballew: Or are we gonna take this to the Community Council? [17:58] philipballew: Your choice [17:58] why would we take it to the community council? [17:58] If you were to refuse to hand it over and to just let it die... [17:58] THAT would be a reason to go to the council... [17:59] philipballew: Your choice...what is going to happen? [18:00] tsimonq2, there is no need to threaten me [18:00] philipballew: I am not threatening you... [18:00] philipballew: And I apologise if it looked that way... [18:01] philipballew: I ask you again, what is your verdict? [18:01] well I dont see a need for ultimatums here. [18:02] tsimonq2, im pretty busy today on stuff, but ping me sometime this next week and we can figure out how to get a project going for you here [18:02] :) [18:02] philipballew: So I will be head? [18:02] philipballew: That is what you are saying? [18:03] philipballew: Or are you just going to fit me in... [18:03] philipballew: Where I am needed... [18:03] philipballew: It's awesome either way, I just need clarification... [18:05] philipballew [18:08] philipballew!