[02:10] <kulelu88_afk> squish102: amazon.com ?
[06:16] <Kilos> guten morgen
[08:01] <kulelu88> superfly: I am moving along, albeit a bit too slowly
[08:04] <magespawn> good morning
[08:05] <Kilos> hi magespawn 
[08:10] <inetpro> good evening 
[08:10] <Kilos> morning inetpro 
[08:10] <inetpro> oops, still mornings? 
[08:11] <Kilos> lol
[08:21] <inetpro> or maybe it's mornings again? 
[08:21] <inetpro> where did the time go... it's almost Christmas again 
[08:49] <magespawn> almost just around the corner
[09:26] <kulelu88> I sometimes confuse magespawn and inetpro 
[09:26] <inetpro> hmm...
[10:01] <inetpro> eish!
[10:02]  * inetpro wonders who is this seananmcguire dude
[10:04] <magespawn> kulelu88: i am honoured
[10:04] <inetpro> ai! And the grump... gremble is not even here to explain
[10:23] <Kilos> lol
[10:44] <gremble> Good morning
[11:10] <magespawn> hi gremble 
[11:10] <GnikLlort> morning everyone
[11:10] <gremble> how are you magespawn?
[11:11] <magespawn> good and you gremble?
[11:11] <magespawn> hi GnikLlort 
[11:12] <gremble> Good morning GnikLlort 
[11:12] <gremble> I am well thank you. just slightly lazy
[11:12] <gremble> imgur.com/a/oJAhR That is a pretty KDE setu[
[11:13] <gremble> setup even
[11:16] <magespawn> nice, i have always preferred dark setups
[11:17] <gremble> Same
[11:55]  * magespawn goes to look for some nice debian themes
[11:57] <gremble> Numix is nice
[11:57] <gremble> I use solarized
[12:05] <kulelu88> I was here earlier than gremble today, it may snow!
[12:08] <gremble> I was up until 3 trying to write an article (of which I've written and erased two sentences many times) :P
[12:08] <kulelu88> I've been awake since 3!
[12:08] <gremble> Why?
[12:10] <kulelu88> working on my project 
[12:10] <kulelu88> I've made decent progress
[12:10] <gremble> What is this elusive project abuot?
[12:10] <kulelu88> A data science project. 
[12:11] <gremble> AH
[12:11] <kulelu88> I also learnt about something called "trap" music
[12:11] <gremble> :P
[12:11] <gremble> Angry rap about inner city gangsters 
[12:11] <gremble> Good choice
[12:12] <kulelu88> not quite: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2LOJymXv-k
[12:12] <gremble> That is what trap is referred too as a genre
[12:14] <gremble> This is not trap
[12:14] <gremble> Trap has very specificl lyrical content :P
[12:14] <gremble> This is good though
[12:14] <gremble> Do you know Haezer kulelu88 ?
[12:18] <gremble> https://youtube.com/watch?v=e-NJjN2UWvs kulelu88 
[12:22] <magespawn> brb
[12:42] <magespawn> what did i miss/
[12:42] <magespawn> ?
[12:43] <gremble> Nothing much.
[12:59] <kulelu88> never heard of it
[13:00] <gremble> Think you may like his music
[13:00] <gremble> Just have a listen
[13:00] <gremble> :P
[13:58] <magespawn> home time, chat later all
[15:41] <magespawn> good evening
[15:42] <superfly> hi magespawn
[15:42] <gremble> hey magespawn 
[15:42] <gremble> hey superfly 
[15:42] <Kilos>  hi magespawn superfly gremble 
[15:42] <superfly> hi gremble, Kilos
[15:43] <gremble> Hey Kilos 
[15:44] <stickyboy> systemd-nspawn is awesome
[15:44] <stickyboy> And so is BTRFS.
[15:47] <gremble> Won't is it reiserfs or btrfs that makes you kill your wife?
[15:47] <gremble> I cannot recall
[15:47] <gremble> Ah it is Reiserfs
[15:49] <Kilos> lolol
[15:51] <stickyboy> Copy on Write!
[16:27] <gremble> welcome back kulelu88 
[16:31] <kulelu88> thanks gremble 
[16:33] <spinza> if i upgrade from 14.04 to a more recent ubuntu what do I lose? i mean do all my apps stay in place?
[16:39] <gremble> That would be very difficult I think. You can easily have your /home folder persist between installs, but other programs and settings, I think not
[16:45] <squish102> spinza: if i understand your question, i have done multiple upgrades over years of ubuntu and never had to reinstall anything
[16:46] <spinza> squish102: yeah i mean the apps and their settings staying in place
[17:33] <superfly> spinza: yeah, I haven't lost anything when upgrading
[17:44] <squish102> di 6 month upgrades for about 5 years and don't think i broke anything or lost anything
[17:49] <kulelu88> the #pydata channel is so sad
[17:51] <inetpro> gremble: I see yo helped seananmcguire?
[17:52] <inetpro> you
[17:53] <inetpro> she used your script to tweet from her book?
[17:55] <kulelu88> who is this seananmcguire?
[17:55] <inetpro> kulelu88: I noticed his many retweets this morning
[17:56] <kulelu88> link?
[17:56] <inetpro> think it was @stroebelJ on twitter
[17:58] <inetpro> so many retweets I almost unsubscribed :-)
[17:58] <inetpro> or rather unfollowed
[17:59] <magespawn> ai! vodacom, i am getting ping times from as low as 63.5 ms all the way up tp 25000.00ms
[18:00] <inetpro> magespawn: as long as you have more of them closer to 63 you should be ok
[18:02] <magespawn> inetpro unfortunately it is moving the other way, with the occasional time out, thrown in for good measure
[18:03] <inetpro> magespawn: on a router or on mobile?
[18:03] <inetpro> can you set the network mode?
[18:03] <magespawn> i might disappear for a little bit at this rate
[18:04] <magespawn> through my tablets hotspot
[18:04] <inetpro> sometimes better to set to a slower mode to improve stability
[18:04] <magespawn> as in 2G etc?
[18:04] <magespawn> hmm will give it a try
[18:05] <inetpro> LTE/WCDMA/GSM
[18:13] <gremble> My script?
[18:13] <gremble> I have a script?
[18:13] <gremble> I just retweeted the story of the lizard in the mans leg :D
[18:14] <GnikLlort> wtf
[18:16] <gremble> Can you get internet through GSM? :o
[18:17] <gremble> I thought the lowest for internet is gprs
[18:18] <gremble> Ah no. GSM is a standard also called 2G
[18:18] <gremble> TIL
[18:19] <inetpro> gremble: I just thought maybe you had something to do with it since your efforts with the gutenberg books projects
[18:20] <inetpro> project*
[18:46] <gremble> Haven't gotten around to writing that piece of code yet
[18:46] <gremble> :<
[18:49] <inetpro> Maaz: coffee on
[18:49]  * Maaz starts grinding coffee
[18:49] <inetpro> Kilos: time for some coffee
[18:49] <Kilos> Maaz  coffee please
[18:49] <Maaz> Kilos: Yessir
[18:49] <Kilos> inetpro  ty
[18:51] <inetpro> eish!
[18:52] <inetpro> Mozilla wants to modernize Firefox's extension and add-on systems, but those are the last things many programmers want.
[18:52] <gremble> What do programmers want?
[18:52] <inetpro> this spells the end of Firefox
[18:53] <Kilos> hehe move to opera
[18:53] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for inetpro and Kilos!
[18:53] <MaNI> at a guess - they probably want to stop having to rewrite their add-ons everytime firefox do a new release (which is every second day these days)
[18:53] <inetpro> gremble: http://www.zdnet.com/article/mozilla-changes-firefox-apis-developers-unhappy/
[18:53] <Kilos> Maaz  danke
[18:53] <Maaz> Bitteschön
[18:54] <inetpro> Maaz: dankie
[18:54] <Maaz> Groot plesier inetpro my vriend
[18:56] <inetpro> Firefox has had so many addons based on XUL for such a long time
[18:59] <inetpro> but I guess there comes a time when change has to happen again
[19:00] <inetpro> will be interesting to see progress on this one
[19:01] <kulelu88> inetpro: I think I now understand why building chrome plugins is easier, and its mostly because of Mozillas poor-decision planning
[19:02] <inetpro> yep other browsers have definitely picked up the pace and it will be tough for Mozilla to catch up again
[19:04] <inetpro> my only hope is that developers keep having platform independance high on the agenda
[19:05] <kulelu88> a browser-independent API? that would be brilliant and improbable
[19:05] <inetpro> uh
[19:06] <inetpro> platform independance != browser independance 
[19:06] <kulelu88> the engines they use for the browsers are different firstly
[19:07] <inetpro> not sure what you mean with browser independant
[19:07] <inetpro> or was that from the article?
[19:11] <kulelu88> building a plugin for FF and Chrome is similar to needing to build an app for iphone and android
[19:18] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[21:25] <magespawn> good night all