[00:02] <the_count> Bashing-om: Are you busy or could we work on fixing my computer again?
[00:02] <dsfsdgdsg> Hi there, How do I give "user" access to these files (http://paste.ubuntu.com/12146487/), I've added "user" to snort group, still not allowed to access files.
[00:03] <dsfsdgdsg> Files located at /var/log/snort/ *^
[00:03] <Bashing-om> the_count: I am available. However, I have slept since our last . You will have to remind me what we are working toward, and where we are now .
[00:05]  * kadiro we are in ubuntu channel ( joke ) :D
[00:06] <the_count> Bashing-om: Do you always sleep like that? And, We were working on fixing something that is hindering synaptics drivers from letting the touchpad properly work, and we were last checking something for installed software or kernel or something like that?
[00:06] <the_count> I meant period
[00:08] <the_count> Bashing-om: I need to talk to someone inexpectedly, be back in a bit. (or longer)
[00:10] <dsfsdgdsg> I don't get permission files, I have rw access and groups correctly sorted but I'm still forced to use root to access files in /var/log/blah/
[00:15] <edtoast_46> hi
[00:15] <edtoast_46> hi random person
[00:15] <kadiro> hi
[00:16] <edtoast_46> how are you doing?
[00:16] <annapants_> ohi
[00:16] <m4rkus> hi
[00:17] <kadiro> edtoast_46: sorry i can't ansewer here is not authorized for any question you're welcome but for other things go to #ubuntu-offtopic and you will be welcome there :)
[00:17] <edtoast_46> kadiro..
[00:18] <edtoast_46> dont impersonate me
[00:18] <edtoast_46> hey m4rkus
[00:18] <kadiro> ?
[00:18] <edtoast_46> or you will do
[00:18] <edtoast_46> can you test out a channel for me?
[00:19] <m4rkus> hey edtoast_46
[00:19] <edtoast_46> hi m4rkus
[00:19] <kadiro> for joint a channel just /j #channel
[00:20] <edtoast_46> can one of you test out #edtoast ?
[00:20] <kadiro> no sorry
[00:20] <edtoast_46> aw
[00:21] <edtoast_46> ok
[00:21] <alexbucuresti> edtoast_46: do you enter at that channel?
[00:21] <edtoast_46> kind of
[00:21] <edtoast_46> crap
[00:21] <edtoast_46> tno
[00:21] <edtoast_46> wait
[00:21] <emanuel> Evening. I came here for help last night with openvpn. I was given some guides to look at but I can't get it to work. Anyone willing to help me out?
[00:22] <edtoast_46> if anyone wants to talk to me come to #edtoast
[00:23] <kadiro> !op
[00:29] <lappet> hi all.
[00:29] <backbox> hi man
[00:32] <m4rkus>  /quit good night all
[00:32] <lappet> just installed new distro, dual boot with another distro, but use the same swap partition. but the partition cant be used again in my first linux. how can i solve this so the past my first linux can use the swap partition again ?
[00:33] <kadiro> lappet: no idea but i think you must to look in fstab file
[00:33] <catalase> can anyone tell me what the DEFAULT web ui password and username are for tranmission
[00:40] <kadiro> good night all
[00:40] <kunr> Hi~~~
[00:40] <lappet> tnx kadiro. and good night
[00:40] <kadiro> thk's lappet you welcome :)
[00:41] <dsfsdgdsg> Hi there, why does "user" not have access to /var/log/snort http://paste.ubuntu.com/12146817/
[00:41] <dsfsdgdsg> I've set everything correctly it makes no sense.
[00:43] <EmanuelNJ> Evening. I came here for help last night with openvpn. I was given some guides to look at but I can't get it to work. Anyone willing to help me out?
[00:44] <dsfsdgdsg> EmanuelNJ: just ask what the problem is.
[00:44] <wileee> EmanuelNJ, give info on what you've tried including the issue for help.
[00:46] <EmanuelNJ> Problem: I followed a guide about OpenPVN Server on Ubuntu but I can't get the the service to start or throw an error so I don't know where the issue is
[00:46] <lappet> this is good guide EmanuelNJ : http://www.vpnbook.com/howto/setup-openvpn-on-ubuntu
[00:47] <EmanuelNJ> lappet, I will try that
[00:49] <lappet> EmanuelNJ: use their free vpn service as a test.
[00:49] <EmanuelNJ> lappet, That guide is how to run my iwn openvpn server?
[00:54] <lappet> EmanuelNJ, no. you use it to connect to a vpn server. it is an easy guide to follow. try it.
[00:55] <EmanuelNJ> lappet, what I'm trying to do is SETUP a VPN server
[00:56] <lappet> EmanuelNJ, sorry. i am misunderstand.
[00:57] <EmanuelNJ> lappet, can you assist with that?
[00:58] <lappet> i have not try to set a vpn server. sorry. EmanuelNJ
[00:59] <Yuken> So, any good programs in the repos that would be good for sprite art?
[01:02] <Guest813881> how to i get Ubuntu to boot into a virtual terminal rather than login manager?
[01:06] <SchrodingersScat> !text | Guest813881
[01:06] <Guest813881> so if i do that will i be booted into the grub terminal for booting os or terminal for booting display manager?
[01:08] <Synopsis> Ben64: still there?
[01:09] <Synopsis> Just an fyi, It boots faster than it did off the hard drive...from power on to showing images in 9 seconds off the usb
[01:14] <dsfsdgdsg> how do I group to access file /var/log/blah? I've tried chmod -R 0660 $file
[01:14] <dsfsdgdsg> ^give group access.
[01:18] <K1Du> hello
[01:19] <K1Du> just update to 15.04 and im not able to switch the close buttons to right
[01:21] <hucasys> hey
[01:28] <baloo2b> plop :)
[01:32] <K1Du> ello
[01:33] <EmanuelNJ> Help. I followed the guide at http://websistent.com/setup-pptp-vpn-server-debian-ubuntu/ and was able to sign in ONCE but now the PPTTPD sever won't start. Help needed please
[01:42] <K1Du> hi
[01:42] <K1Du> can some1 help me a bit ?
[01:51] <Pigmatico> New ubuntu user here (using a bootable usb to troubleshoot my new pc) , I'm needing to instal lm_sensors and have little to no idea how to do that
[01:51] <Pigmatico> If anyone could lend a hand
[01:53] <K1Du> hi , anyone here
[01:53] <K1Du> ?
[01:54] <telboon> yeah. people are all around. just post your stuff and someone usually replies in 10 ot 15 mins
[01:54] <K1Du> i updated to 15.04 and im unable to change the close buttons to right
[01:55] <hucasys_> ubuntu tweak?
[01:56] <K1Du> tweak ?
[01:57] <K1Du> i tryed in gsetings and nothing
[01:57] <K1Du> and i also get stucked keys ...
[01:57] <AfterDarkness> hello I am wonder does kubuntu use the same repos and ppa?
[01:57] <AfterDarkness> as ubuntu
[01:57] <Ju-no[Orion]> AfterDarkness: yes
[01:58] <AfterDarkness> sweet
[01:58] <AfterDarkness> I had one crash from compiz few minutes ago and I had enough
[01:58] <AfterDarkness> lol i am so harsh
[01:59] <K1Du> gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.wm.preferences button-layout ':minimize,maximize,close' doesnt work eighter
[02:04] <AfterDarkness> anyone knows for an alt for this http://iterm2.com/features.html ?
[02:06] <Ju-no[Orion]> AfterDarkness: the split thing ?
[02:07] <AfterDarkness> no
[02:10] <AfterDarkness> I like the overall package. there is also 'final term' but it is not being actively developed
[02:11] <Abe> I apologize but I still did not figure out how u save it ?
[02:12] <Abe> how U save your nickname in irssi... I am new to it
[02:14] <Abe> hello?
[02:15] <evon> Hey everyone.  I have a laptop that can be converted into a table.  Has anyone used unity on such a laptop? and if so, what has your experience been? I am using ubuntu gnome right now and I don't really like it's touch capabilities
[02:15] <evon> abe sorry I'm not too sure
[02:16] <Abe> did you save your name or do you type /Nick every time?
[02:17] <Abe> ah you might use a complete different irc client true
[02:23] <evon> abe I never have to type in mine.  I use XChat
[02:28] <Affy> Guys, I'm lost... I can't seem to get windows 10 and ubuntu to play along. First of all the ubuntu install doesn't recognize windows 10 so I need to do manual install, but when I reboot and get into grub to boot ubuntu, I get dropped to (initramfs) prompt/busybox thing. I follow this guide: http://www.everydaylinuxuser.com/2014/05/install-ubuntu-1404-alongside-windows.html
[02:29] <Affy> Also, another strange thing. When I do a re-install of windows on the drive and re-create the partition table. When I reboot, I still have a boot option in bios called "ubuntu". Maybe I should wipe the drive or something? Maybe something is corrupt?
[02:50] <Spokulus> quit
[03:01] <cappe> Im affected by the bug  bumblebee doesn't work with systemd on 15.04, but works with upstart bumblebee fails on trying to modprobe "off" <<------ and I don't know how to get bumblebee and nouveau working toghether on my Haswell. This site shows the issue: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bumblebee/+bug/1438106/+activity shows the bug. The error message tells me it that the bumblebee daemon cant load
[03:01] <cappe>  GPU driver. Where shall I go from here?
[03:03] <cappe> shall I stop trying to get the nouveau and bumblebee working togheter and instead go for official nvidia driver and bumblebee? or shall I await a bugfix?
[03:05] <cappe> I have tried to get this going for several hours, with all my knowledge and google and now you guys. Its tiring, and I need something to work with!
[03:05] <phix> hmmm, Amazon AWS, Google Compute, Rackspace or other?  Where is a good place to run Ubuntu?
[03:06] <cappe> tell me: Nouveau and bumblebee OR Nvidia and bumblebee ? Im on Haswell having Intel Graphics 4400 and Nvidia GeForce 820m
[03:06] <plytro> phix: whatever is cheapest that meets your needs
[03:07] <cappe> could you guys help me get a FIX for bug issue #1438106
[03:07] <phix> plytro: The cheapest are run outside of my country, so the latency is a concern
[03:07] <cappe> at bugs.launchpad.net
[03:08] <Kate6> Hey, can anyone help me, I'm trying to get the kernel module for my wireless card to auto load at startup on Ubuntu 15...    A manual modprobe loads it just fine but adding it to /etc/modules does not work for getting it to auto load at startup.
[03:09] <cappe> Im looking for a certain Nazar Mokrynskyi who has been bugtracking my issue. Are you in here?
[03:09] <breno> Hello Ola
[03:09] <Kate6> Hello
[03:10] <cappe> guess I will have to damage my system by using the "real" drivers then
[03:10] <cappe> they have never worked for me
[03:11] <MarconM> its possible download ubuntu 16.04 ?
[03:11] <cappe> developers of bumblebee, have you seen the modprobe: off bug and corrected it?
[03:12] <cappe> when modprobing the nvidia GPU bumblebee fails
[03:12] <cappe> that's the real issue
[03:12] <cappe> just saying. hopefully you will let me know when its corrected.
[03:16] <MarconM> http://ibin.co/2CyNYccNh4kg
[03:16] <MarconM> \o/
[03:18] <breno> wtf
[03:18] <breno> ^
[03:19] <wafflejock> MarconM: looks like your laptop exploded on the wall
[03:21] <plytro> phix: note I said the cheapest that "meets your needs"
[03:21] <plytro> if latency is one of your criteria those that are outside your country don't meet your needs
[03:22] <Kate6> Kay well you've been most helpful
[03:22] <Kate6> Thank you
[03:23] <MarconM> wafflejock: yes hahaha
[03:23] <Kate6> May your boy children grow up to be cowboys and your girl children grow up to be brothel managers.
[03:23] <auk> wtfh
[03:27] <InFlames> can anyone help me get my hp photosmart c410 to work with simple scan on ubuntu 15.04?
[03:30] <matt247> i cant run anything with wine or playonlinux, ive tried pokerstars, comand and conquer, marvel heroes to name a few.  they always crash.  am i doing something wrong
[03:31] <Taymon> Hello, I rescued the hard disk from a dead machine and am trying to recover my ecryptfs home partition, but am running into some unexpected difficulties.
[03:32] <Taymon> I ran ecryptfs-recover-private and got INFO: Success!  Private data mounted at [/tmp/ecryptfs.orDMsELX].
[03:33] <Taymon> But then at that location there's just Access-Your-Private-Data.desktop and friends there, instead of my actual data.
[03:35] <akik> Taymon: is there a Exec= line in that desktop file?
[03:37] <daffy__> anyone who uses gnome can help me on changing the close windows button to the left side?
[03:37] <Taymon> akik: Exec=/usr/bin/ecryptfs-mount-private
[03:38] <akik> Taymon: i'm pretty sure that you need to run that command. you are not in a graphical DE ?
[03:39] <Winter_Com> daffy__ I want to change the close windows button to the left too, so do you have any idea on xfce desktop environment ?
[03:39] <akik> Taymon: those .desktop files describe an icon
[03:40] <Taymon> akik: I'm on the command line and I already ran that command.
[03:40] <daffy__> Winter_Com, nothing here.. im trying on gnome, found nothing on google
[03:41] <akik> Taymon: oh you said you ran ecryptfs-recover-private
[03:41] <Winter_Com> ok, when you have any idea, give a clue , thanks. daffy__
[03:42] <daffy__> Winter_Com, you too, if u find something let me now, I'll consider change gui
[03:42] <wafflejock> Winter_Com: daffy__ I'm surprised by this, the move by unity to move them to the left was not well received
[03:42] <Taymon> akik: I did. And then I went to the directory that it created, and Access-Your-Private-Data.desktop was in it.
[03:43] <wafflejock> Winter_Com: daffy__ you may want to see if there's anything in dconf-editor or the tweak-tool for your desktop but not sure
[03:43] <akik> Taymon: what did /usr/bin/ecryptfs-mount-private output when you ran it?
[03:43] <daffy__> wafflejock, the usability is all on the left side.. web .. texts everything
[03:43] <Taymon> akik: INFO: Success!  Private data mounted at [/tmp/ecryptfs.orDMsELX].
[03:43] <daffy__> wafflejock, I barely go to the right lol
[03:44] <akik> Taymon: there are two commands, which one did you ran?
[03:44] <daffy__> wafflejock, already tried both
[03:44] <wafflejock> daffy__: well I tend towards shortcuts on the keyboard when it comes to closing windows but just having things in corners is the main thing so you can just bury the mouse in the corner basically and hit the button
[03:45] <wafflejock> daffy__: I just like to have menus on the left and my window controls on the right but just surprised to hear the opposite
[03:45] <Merwco> Hello everyone. I have a problem with my ubuntu 14.04. From time to time I get the sound problem, that the sound is either kind of slowed down or speeded up by about 10%. using pulseaudio -k in the terminal or rebooting is a temporary workaround. does anyone know how to fix this permanently?
[03:45] <Taymon> akik: Ah, sorry, I ran ecryptfs-recover-private.
[03:46] <akik> Taymon: try the command after Exec= now
[03:46] <daffy__> wafflejock, cool.. well, im my opn is way to long to move from left to right just to close or minimize something using mouse
[03:47] <Taymon> akik: From which directory?
[03:47] <edtoast_46> JOIN #toastirc please.
[03:48] <akik> Taymon: / is good
[03:48] <daffy__> wafflejock, what gui do u use?
[03:48] <wafflejock> daffy__: interesting, yeah sorry I don't have a solution for ya though, I basically see the opposite as an advantage too though like I don't want to accidentally be clicking those buttons so I want them far away :) I use Gnome
[03:48] <Taymon> akik: ERROR: Encrypted private directory is not setup properly
[03:49] <akik> Taymon: try changing to your normal user account first
[03:51] <Taymon> akik: How do I do that?
[03:52] <akik> Taymon: su - username
[03:52] <daffy__> wafflejock, thats true either, but the design is so clean and bigger.. dependind the size of your monitor
[03:52] <Taymon> akik: No passwd entry for user 'taymonbeal'
[03:52] <Taymon> akik: I'm on a live flash drive.
[03:52] <akik> Taymon: ok try "su username"
[03:52] <akik> oh
[03:53] <Taymon> akik: I tried copying the script and modifying it to refer to the path where my actual encrypted home dir is.
[03:53] <Taymon> akik: Here's what I got:
[03:53] <Taymon> wc: standard input: Input/output error Inserted auth tok with sig [7a0d6cd2e4d732db] into the user session keyring fopen: No such file or directory
[03:54] <akik> Taymon: here's somebody's blog about recovering the data with a live session http://bodhizazen.net/Tutorials/Ecryptfs#Live
[03:55] <Taymon> akik: Yeah, I already tried that approach, it didn't make my data available.
[03:55] <akik> Taymon: sorry i'm out of ideas
[04:00] <akik> Taymon: maybe it would help to boot the live session dvd
[04:01] <akik> Taymon: even though it says it mounted your data at /tmp/ecryptfs.orDMsELX there might be some GUI dependency since there was that .desktop file
[04:03] <Taymon> akik: It's not a GUI problem, there's an I/O error happening and I'm pretty sure the real problem is in there now.
[04:04] <Winter_Com> I/O error ?
[04:04] <Winter_Com> might it be hard drive problem ?
[04:24] <phix> plytro: ok so that excludes google then, any others besides Amazon AWS or Rackspace in AU that would be good to run Ubuntu on?
[04:24] <Goldenboy579> hello
[04:24]  * Nelson1 says hello
[04:24] <phix> hi hi
[04:24] <Nelson1> hello phix
[04:25] <Goldenboy579> any one play xbox one
[04:26] <Goldenboy579> hello nelson
[04:26] <Nelson1> hello Goldenboy579
[04:26] <phix> Goldenboy579: no, no one in this channel does
[04:27] <Goldenboy579> oh
[04:27] <phix> Goldenboy579: I have steam installed under Ubuntu and play games on that
[04:27] <phix> why would I need an Xbox for?  that is Microsoft also
[04:27] <Goldenboy579> i dont have steam yet
[04:27] <phix> yet it
[04:28] <Goldenboy579> ill try
[04:28] <phix> there is also PlayOnLinux (ubuntu package) for playing games under Ubuntu using wine (for games that dont have a native version)
[04:29] <phix> It works quite well with WorldOfTanks :)
[04:29] <Nelson1> is it bad to install an os on a SDD?
[04:29] <Trinity> if Java's JAVA_HOME isn't set can I still use Java sometimes?
[04:29] <Nelson1> can it ruin it by continously reading and writing on it?
[04:29] <phix> Nelson1: no, it is good, means fast boot and app opening times
[04:30] <Trinity> I know its bad practice, but will some applications still be able to run java?
[04:30] <phix> Nelson1: SSDs have a life span equiv to magnetic these days.
[04:30] <phix> Trinity: yes, most apps can figure out where java is installed
[04:30] <Nelson1> phix but people say , they have limited read and write limits?
[04:31] <Nelson1> like a flashdrive?
[04:31] <Trinity> phix, thanks. an article i'm reading states that I should set the env variable in /etc/environment. some other articles have stated other places. Do you know which i should be storing the path at?
[04:32] <phix> Nelson1: no read limits, there are re-write limits though, but it is into the hundreds of thousands writes to the same spot on the chip until it stops retaining information, however SSDs these days are good at sharing the load over the entire disc, so you don't ever run into that issues until about 3 - 5 years of operation,  which is the average life span of a magnetic disc
[04:32] <phix> Trinity: if you install the Ubuntu java package it will do that for you
[04:32] <phix> Trinity: there is a ppa for java
[04:32] <Trinity> phix, ah I see.
[04:32] <Trinity> do you know where it set the path?
[04:33] <Trinity> java -version returns the version
[04:33] <Trinity> but echo $JAVA_HOME is empty
[04:33] <phix> Trinity: what app is requiring JAVA_HOME to be set?
[04:33] <phix> Trinity: I dont have JAVA_HOME set however all of the java applications I use figure out where it is
[04:34] <Trinity> phix, no application. Im using IDEA and it auto-detects. I'm just curious where $JAVA_HOME went and how it was set
[04:34] <Bashing-om> Nelson1: If you do not have a lot of ram, might consider putting /swap on the spinning drive to reduce reading/writing .
[04:35] <phix> Trinity: ah ok, IDEA is smart, it knows stuff
[04:35] <phix> Trinity: I use IDEA / ADT and PyCharm myself
[04:35] <Trinity> :)
[04:35] <Trinity> phix, do you have any idea where or how the Java path was set then? or should I test an application that isn't so smart
[04:35] <Trinity> as*
[04:36] <Trinity> then again, java -version works
[04:36] <phix> Trinity: IDEA probably checks common installation directories based on your OS
[04:36] <Trinity> so it must be set somewhere
[04:36] <phix>  /var/lib/jvm is a common place
[04:37] <phix> Trinity: it is probably set in code in IDEA: )
[04:37] <madmangunradio> omg massive difference between 3.19 and 4.1.6 kernel while compiling ..  geez..   just had to vent that
[04:38] <ywyak> Hello, im trying to repair my window 10 using boot repair linux via live usb ubuntu, and here is the result: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12148333/ so far, my win 10 never booted up
[04:38] <phix> madmangunradio: ok
[04:38] <Nelson1> phix isn't ext4 filesystem in linux bad for sdd. it does continous journaling(read / write ) for the os?
[04:38] <phix> ywyak: go away
[04:39] <phix> Nelson1: *shrugs* my SSDs are working just fine :)
[04:39] <madmangunradio> mine to
[04:39] <Nelson1> that's nice phix, how old are urs?
[04:39] <madmangunradio> going on 2 years for me
[04:39] <phix> Nelson1: less than a year
[04:39] <Nelson1> i see
[04:39] <phix> I had magnetics before that
[04:40] <phix> Nelson1: SSDs these days manage that for you.
[04:40] <ywyak> i assumed this is ubuntu support channel?
[04:40] <phix> you don't need to worry about writes as much as you did back in the day
[04:40] <phix> ywyak: correct, not Windows 10
[04:40] <Nelson1> ok i see phix
[04:41] <madmangunradio> make sure noatime is set in fstab
[04:41] <ywyak> while i understand i am trying to repair win 10 mbr, but im using that via usb Ubuntu live
[04:41] <phix> ywyak: You shouldn't of updated :)  you have a year to install it
[04:41] <ywyak> its not an error updating.
[04:41] <phix> ywyak: is the usb Ubuntu live working fine?
[04:41] <ywyak> yes.
[04:42] <Nelson1> phix any good/reliable  brands for sdd?
[04:42] <phix> ywyak: great, so is there anything else/.
[04:43] <phix> Nelson1: I use Samsung and Kingston.  I had a Intel but I stupidly sold it thinking I could get another one for the same price, turns out it was a promotion and it went up 100% in price
[04:43] <madmangunr> Nelson1 take a look at /etc/system/fstab and make sure noatime is in the line for your ssd
[04:43] <phix> ywyak: Use the Windows 10 utilities to fix Windows 10
[04:44] <owen1> i installed ubuntu (and switched to i3 as my WM) and i see a modal prompt that asks me for an ssh possword to deploy@some-ip  what is that and how to get rid of it?
[04:44] <phix> ywyak: You may want to ask further Windows 10 questions in a channel that supports it.
[04:44] <Nelson1> phix yes samsung makes nice ssd's
[04:44] <ywyak> i cant boot win 10 at all. which is why im trying to linux to fix win 10 mbr
[04:45] <Trinity> phix, that still doesn't explain how typing in terminal `java -version` works though :/
[04:45] <Nelson1> what's the issue with windows10, a lot of people are complaining about it?
[04:45] <Trinity> im fairly new to linux and my assumption from being able to use `java -version` means that `java` has a path or something
[04:45] <Trinity> otherwise ubuntu wouldn't understand that command right?
[04:46] <madmangunr> ywyak can you boot ubuntu fine on the hd?
[04:46] <Nelson1> Trinity does linux uses a different jvm than windows?
[04:46] <Trinity> Nelson1, there are two, OpenJDK and Oracle's
[04:46] <phix> ywyak: fixing windows 10 is out of scope here though.  Even if you are using Ubuntu to attempt a repair.
[04:46] <phix> Trinity: java is in your PATH
[04:46] <Nelson1> Trinity i see
[04:47] <Trinity> phix, /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/games
[04:47] <Trinity> thats my path :/
[04:47] <ywyak> alright, i'll ask another question: how can i access to my hardrive to back up before i do a complete reinstall on window 10
[04:47] <Bashing-om> phix: Consider, IF ubuntu were installed, and in the process of installing ubuntu the boot code is corrupted, then yes it is our problem to help resolve .
[04:47] <phix> Trinity: there is probably a symlink in /usr/bin/java pointing to /etc/alternatives/java or something like that
[04:48] <Nelson1> has ur windows 10  corrupted?
[04:48] <phix> ywyak: You can mount your drives under Ubuntu.  If you boot off the live USB it should pick them up in nautalus, assuming there is nothiung wrong with the disc
[04:49] <phix> Bashing-om: considering
[04:49] <ywyak> nautalus shows no files on my win 10
[04:49] <phix> Bashing-om: You should only install ubuntu after installing windows on a dual boot setup
[04:50] <phix> Bashing-om: however I would recommend against dual boot.  Instead I would install Ubuntu on the system and use a Virtual Machine to run Windows under
[04:50] <Trinity> phix, gotcha. thanks!
[04:50] <phix> ywyak: what does dmesg say?  anything about sector failed on /dev/sda or something like that?
[04:50] <phix> ywyak: It may be a hardware problem
[04:50] <ywyak> care to explain to me what dmesg is?
[04:51] <phix> ywyak: click on the dash icon (or press the SUPER key on your keyboard) and type in terminal
[04:51] <phix> click on the terminal icon to open it then type in dmesg
[04:51] <madmangunr> why not dual boot?  I'm dualbooting win10 and ubuntu fine.  win10 on regular hd and ubuntu on ssd while sharing ext4 and nt partitions on the regular one with win10
[04:51] <phix> Then scroll up to see if you can see any error messages regarding /dev/sda
[04:52] <Gallomimia> hiya phix. i hope you are well
[04:52] <phix> madmangunr: Switching back and forth is annoying.  I find it easier to run Ubuntu all of the time and start up a VM if I need to do something Windows specific (or run an app that doesn't work correctly under wine)
[04:52] <madmangunr> running virtualbox on ubuntu for several other flavors of linux for testing.   If your not gaming its fine to vb windows
[04:52] <phix> Gallomimia: I am GREEEEATT!!
[04:53] <madmangunr> oh phix well thats perfectly sane
[04:53] <madmangunr> gotcha
[04:53] <phix> madmangunr: incorrect.  A lot of games run under Linux.  There is also a version of steam for Linux.
[04:53] <madmangunr> phix i was refering to virtualboxing windows under linux and expecting games to work under windows
[04:54] <phix> madmangunr: most Source games run under linux, like HL2, L4D, CSS, CS: GO, Portal and others like DOTA2, etc etc.  goto steampowered.com for more information of games that run natively under linux
[04:54] <madmangunr> i use playonlinux qt4wine wine etc. for everything.  I'm 100% linux minus 2 games
[04:54] <madmangunr> misunderstood me phix thats ok
[04:54] <phix> madmangunr: oh sorry, I thought you said gaming under linux wasn't pratical :)
[04:54] <madmangunr> no sir
[04:55] <madmangunr> i can prove anyone wrong with pictures and videos lol
[04:55] <phix> madmangunr: yes gaming on windows under virtual box doesn't work that good ;)
[04:55] <phix> madmangunr: ditto;
[04:55] <phix> I like playonlinux
[04:55] <phix> WorldOfTanks runs fine with it :)
[04:55] <ywyak> i have not find anything indicating sda. is there a short cut like CTRL+F to search for key word in terminal?
[04:55] <madmangunr> ywyak?
[04:56] <ywyak> yes madmangunr?
[04:56] <madmangunr> clarification of your last question
[04:57] <madmangunr> what where you asking?
[04:57] <akik> ywyak: dmesg | grep keyword
[04:58] <ywyak> answering phix question madmangunr
[04:59] <madmangunr> I still can't belive i'm running 25-30 degrees cooler by using kernel 4.1.6 to compile..  little ticked off with current 3.19.0-25 kernel
[04:59] <madmangunr> ok ywyak
[05:00]  * Nelson1 thinks why does linux runs hotter than windows?
[05:03] <ywyak> i've found some mention of sda, but nothing relate anything error about /dev/sda phix
[05:04] <Rudolf> My server is powerfull, it no use firewall, it no shutdown, it is the best, my server use ssh , user: admin , pass : admin  , my ip is 189.46.20.57 beware, you'll be watch
[05:11] <Chris> Hello. How do I determine the precise kernel version that will boot by default (by inspecting grub configs)?
[05:13] <wileee> Chris, Curious, e=what is the end goal?
[05:13] <wileee> sorry for typo
[05:13] <Chris> The end goal is to determine which kernel my remote server will boot into when I remotely reboot it without console access.
[05:13] <Chris> If it's the wrong version, I won't be able to reach it.
[05:14] <madmangunr> uname -r
[05:14] <Chris> No, that determines the currently running kernel.
[05:14] <madmangunr> your right ..
[05:15] <Chris> *you're
[05:15] <madmangunr> you are right chris
[05:16] <Chris> Anyway, I'm running a 4.1.3 and Ubuntu just decided to "upgrade" to 3.19.0-26
[05:16] <Chris> I want to make sure it will boot into 4.1.3 and not 3.19.0-26
[05:17] <Gallomimia> you could remove the 3.19 package
[05:17] <Gallomimia> i... think?
[05:17] <madmangunr> It will boot to the larger number Chris
[05:17] <Gallomimia> i don't think that's automatic
[05:17] <madmangunr> I test the latest kernels
[05:17] <Chris> madmangunr: I wouldn't like to assume that
[05:17] <Chris> I'd like to verify it.
[05:17] <Chris> (without rebooting first)
[05:18] <Gallomimia> i'm assuming you use grub? those settings ought to be good to check
[05:18] <Chris> Yes, that was the original question.
 Hello. How do I determine the precise kernel version that will boot by default (by inspecting grub configs)?
[05:18] <Chris> So /boot/grub/grub.cfg seems rather insane looking.
[05:19] <Chris> I grepped menuentry, and 4.1.3 kernels are "at the top", but that doesn't give me full comfort.
[05:19]  * Chris risks rebooting and hopes...
[05:19] <akik> it was so much easier to figure it out in grub v1, default=0
[05:20] <akik> it would boot the first menuentry
[05:20] <Chris> :/
[05:20] <madmangunr> Honestly Chris, I don't know the command I can only offer you my experience and that is it will boot the latest kernel
[05:21] <Gallomimia> !grub | chris
[05:21] <Gallomimia> let's examine the 2nd link and see what it says
[05:21] <madmangunr> I even installed kernel 4.1.6 on my 3.19.0-25 30 minutes ago
[05:22] <madmangunr> I've done this exact thing for a long time
[05:22] <madmangunr> grub2 will boot the latest kernel
[05:22] <Chris> Fortunately it worked, thanks
[05:23] <voz9jski> good news
[05:23] <madmangunr> dpkg -l linux-* | awk '/^ii/{ print $2 }' | grep -e [0-9]
[05:23] <madmangunr> will list your current installed kernels including headers tools etc
[05:23] <akik> actually there's GRUB_DEFAULT=0 in /etc/default/grub
[05:23] <Chris> Yeah, I have 4.1.3, 4.1.0 and 3.19.0
[05:23] <madmangunr> default=0 is latest kernel
[05:24] <madmangunr> it will load latest kernel
[05:24] <madmangunr> anyways glad it worked for you Chris
[05:24] <Chris> Thank you
[05:24] <Affy> Hi guys, I just installed win 10 and ubuntu 15.04, but Grub has named both windows 10 and windows 10 recovery "Windows Recovery Environment". I assume it would be easily to change this via a config file somewhere?
[05:24] <akik> i think it depends on the order of the probed entries
[05:26] <madmangunr> try /boot/grub
[05:26] <madmangunr> you can type in grep -nr windows
[05:26] <madmangunr> see what pops up
[05:26] <madmangunr> edit grub.cfg in /boot/grub
[05:27] <akik> it's a bad idea to directly edit grub.cfg as it's dynamically created
[05:27] <akik> it will work until it's updated
[05:28] <Affy> madmangunr, got it, thanks!
[05:28] <madmangunr> np
[05:28] <madmangunr> remember what akik said
[05:28] <madmangunr> he's right
[05:29] <akik> actually my friend ran into a big problem when he started windows recovery environment from grub. he lost his linux partition from the partition table
[05:30] <akik> i think this was with windows 8
[05:30] <goddard> ubottu: how are you
[05:30] <goddard> ubottu: do you life coffee?
[05:30] <lotuspsychje> !botabuse | goddard
[05:31] <goddard> thanks
[05:57] <Nikesh> Any ideas why my mouse (track pad on laptop) would be clicking and moving all around the screen by itself? If
[05:57] <Nikesh> If I turn off the track pad, it stops..
[05:58] <Nikesh> (using the Function key + track pad option key)
[05:58] <urd7> that was happening to me and it was simply stuff touching the trackpad by accident. Sounds stupid but I had not realized...
[05:58] <urd7> and yes I turned of the trackpad and it stopped
[05:59] <CJ57769> a ghost is controlling your computer
[05:59] <Nikesh> urd7: Well, for me I will boot up the machine and leave it there and step away and I look at the screen and things are getting clicked and mouse moving crazy all over..
[06:00] <urd7> yeah then it's the ghost! :-)
[06:00] <Nikesh> Drivers maybe? :(
[06:02] <urd7> it sounds like it
[06:16] <lucho> i can help me?
[06:16] <akik> yes
[06:16] <lucho> i nedd help unreal ircd service bots chanserv, nickserv etc etc
[06:17] <lucho> i cant mount services..
[06:18] <lucho> anywhere speak spanish _>?
[06:18] <lucho> ;laskj
[06:19] <Gallomimia> !es | lucho
[06:19] <lucho> Gallomimia,
[06:19] <lucho> sabes algo de montar los servicios del unreal?
[06:19] <Gallomimia> no hablas espanol
[06:19] <lucho> poruqe estoy trabado y me estoy volviendo loco ya :P
[06:20] <lucho> Gallomimia, can you speak spanish?
[06:20] <Gallomimia> no.
[06:20] <lucho> uuh
[06:20] <lucho> mmmm
[06:20] <Gallomimia> !es | lucho
[06:20] <Gallomimia> ^^^
[06:20] <lucho> ubuntu-es 100% offline :*
[06:20] <lucho> :(
[06:20] <lucho> in argentina 3:20 am
[06:21] <lucho> all people sleep :(
[06:21] <Gallomimia> ya. friday night who wants to hack on linux :D
[06:21] <lucho> lol
[06:22] <lotuspsychje> Gallomimia: no hacking topics here
[06:22] <Gallomimia> i think you misunderstand what the word "hacking" means pal
[06:22] <lucho> I need to configure services unreal ircd , chanserv , nickserv , StatServ , etc you know that?
[06:22] <lotuspsychje> Gallomimia: it means its offtopic
[06:22] <Gallomimia> nope :( it'd be nice to know about
[06:23] <Gallomimia> and yeah. ircd is offtopic for this channel.
[06:23] <lucho> ok goodbyre
[06:23] <lucho> bye
[06:30] <Nikesh> I'm getting 'no bootable device' after installing Ubuntu to a fresh SDD.. any ideas? :S
[06:31] <Gallo_> first thing i'd check is to make sure grub installed properly, then i'd also check the bios is searching in the right places for said drive
[06:31] <Nikesh> Gallo_: How do I check if GRUB installed properly?
[06:31] <Gallo_> !grub| nikesh
[06:32] <Gallo_> that i don't actually know, but this bot can give you some helpful links :)
[06:38] <Gallo_> any suggestions for a decent multi-chat client on ubuntu? (i'm really not fond of pidgin's UI, integration, or notifications)
[06:39] <samthewildone1> sudo reboot
[07:05] <levo> suppose i have two usb sticks with live linux distros on them (ubuntu on one and porteous on the other). porteous could boot but ubuntu couldn't. so I copied the files of ubuntu disk into the other usb (replacing with the previous files) this time ubuntu booted but i ran into some squashfs errors. is this due to the procedure i did?
[07:05] <levo> or at least could it be?
[07:06] <cere> exit
[07:06] <Gallo_> levo: it could be. but i'm not sure of the procedure you did
[07:07] <levo> Gallo_: just copying all the ubuntu files from one usb to the other. supposing the other usb's mbr and things work.
[07:07] <Gallo_> that's pretty odd. my favorite way to make a bootable stick is with dd.
[07:08] <Gallo_> they usually have the mbr inplace
[07:08] <Gallo_> it should also be useful to note that i've not used any other distro's.
[07:08] <levo> Gallo_: yep i use UUI but this time i wanted things to go quick
[07:09] <Gallo_> why not try another way of getting your other distro on the stick that didn't work. perhaps that one is not viable somehow
[07:10] <Gallo_> some other useful advice: check checksums! they have check right in the name... and try a few procedures
[07:28] <w_> всем привет
[07:28] <Gallo_> !ru | w_
[07:29] <Gallo_> im not sure if you're russian, but it sort of looks russian.
[07:29] <Gallo_> sorry if you're speaking a similarly cyrillic language and i'm ignorant
[07:30] <llorephie> Gallo_: you are right :)
[07:31] <levo> Gallo_: I checked the md5 checksum. it was intact. and i've used both unetbootin and universal usb installer. but the usb doesn't boot.
[07:31] <Gallo_> sounds like that one usb disk is a failure. or its got unusable drivers?
[07:32] <levo> it used to boot (porteaus could boot via that) but other usb.s i used couldn't. they were usb3 but this one which is usb2 could work with porteaus
[07:35] <Gallo_> i don't know what to tell ya man. i've never used either of those programs to make install drives. i've also never heard of porteaus. dd works for me, and if you are having unexplainable problems, i suggest you test every mode and find which ones work and which don't, then speculate as to the reason.
[07:45] <levo> Gallo_: ok. besides i'm on windows now so I can't use dd.
[07:52] <wafflejock> levo: have you tried this http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[07:53] <nonkey> i forgot my freenode password how to recover it?
[07:53] <wafflejock> levo: also are you manually selecting the USB drive for booting in the BIOS or through a boot menu?
[07:53] <levo> wafflejock: yes i've tried UUI
[07:54] <levo> wafflejock: it automatically looks for a bootable usb. since when I had the other distro it didn't need any extra step for booting from that usb
[07:54] <wafflejock> nonkey: https://freenode.net/faq.shtml typically freenode itself isn't really on topic here I don't think
[07:54] <wafflejock> levo: just trying to give you some options, were you able to verify the data transferred to the USB
[07:55] <levo> wafflejock: md5 checksum. matching the one mentioned in ubuntu website
[07:56] <levo> I'm also trying a slow fat32 format in windows too. maybe stupid but thought maybe it's colliding with multiple quick format and things i've done so far
[07:57] <wafflejock> levo: never tried this but you might give this a try http://bootableusb.net/how-to-check-if-usb-drive-is-bootable/
[08:03] <yaksha5> welcome solarisboy
[08:18] <levo> wafflejock, Gallo_: i think that slow format did the work done. now it can boot from usb stick
[08:18] <wafflejock> levo: cool glad you got it fixed
[08:28] <barkerperkins> new...any discussion?
[08:29] <cfhowlett> barkerperkins, ask your ubuntu question
[08:30] <barkerperkins> just testing program...
[08:30] <cfhowlett> !test | barkerperkins
[08:30] <barkerperkins> loud and clear...thanks
[08:43] <Amitari> Does anyone know of a piece of software to rip DVDs to ISO, and verify it? Kinda like Exact Audio Copy and RubyRipper does for Audio CD?
[08:44] <gott3rfunk3n83> Ripper
[08:45] <Amitari> gott3rfunk3n83: The thing with the closest name I can find in the repository is Ripperx, and that's for Audio CD.
[08:46] <Nikesh> 'No bootable device' after fresh Ubuntu install. Not dual boot. Any ideas?
[08:47] <cfhowlett> Nikesh, reset your bios to boot from hdd not the ubuntu CD/USB
[08:49] <Nikesh> cfhowlett: Boot order?
[08:49] <Nikesh> cfhowlett: OK, I'll try that. Also, perhaps boot flags?
[08:49] <cfhowlett> Nikesh, boot flags should be autoset during your installation.
[08:50] <Nikesh> cfhowlett: What should they look like?
[08:50] <Nikesh> Just to check
[08:50] <C0r3> Was just checking can we run a program without installing it... Worked quite well!!!
[08:51] <cfhowlett> Nikesh, depends on your system, i.e. efi or not, dual boot or not.  here's mine on ubuntu only UEFI laptop      http://paste.ubuntu.com/12149451/
[08:53] <Nikesh> cfhowlett: Similarly I am would like Ubuntu only UEFI laptop
[08:54] <cfhowlett> Nikesh, let's see what your working with: sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999         and paste the url here
[08:54] <Nikesh> OK
[08:55] <Nikesh> http://termbin.com/biet
[08:55] <bq_> why /bin/true; is placed in the beginning of a sh line?
[08:56] <cfhowlett> Nikesh, ext 2?  default ubuntu filesystem is ext4.  what version of ubuntu is this?
[08:56] <Nikesh> cfhowlett: I moved USB boot down on the list but still 'No Bootable Device'
[08:56] <Nikesh> cfhowlett: Ubuntu 14.10
[08:56] <Nikesh> No idea
[08:56] <Nikesh> I used default options
[08:57] <cfhowlett> Nikesh, 14.10 is end of life, not supported.  install 14.04 for long term support.
[08:57] <Nikesh> My mouse was going screwy with 14.04 in the Live USB so I thought the drivers were weird. Anyways, I had the same issue with 14.04 as well as far as 'No bootable device'
[08:57] <Nikesh> I'll try it though
[08:58] <cfhowlett> Nikesh, or 15.04 for newest version.
[08:58] <Nikesh> Try it again, rather
[08:58] <Nikesh> Well, some things aren't well supported with 15.04
[08:58] <Nikesh> Like MongoDB
[08:58] <Nikesh> which I want to use
[09:00] <Nikesh> Maybe worth seeing if it gets the machine usable though
[09:00] <cfhowlett> Nikesh, what are you machine specs?
[09:00] <Nikesh> Possibly something to do with BIOS settings? Windows booted fine :/
[09:00] <cfhowlett> Nikesh, wait, so it DOES have windows?
[09:00] <Nikesh> cfhowlett: It DID
[09:00] <Nikesh> I chose to replace Ubuntu over it
[09:02] <Nikesh> Machine specs.. like this? 8GB RAM, 2.4ghz quad core, 128GB SSD HDD
[09:02] <cfhowlett> Nikesh, nice.  yeah, ubuntu should run that without problem.
[09:07] <Nikesh> Could it be to do with the BIOS settings somehow or GRUB?
[09:08] <cfhowlett> Nikesh, according to your parted -l, ubuntu did not install.  plus ext2 is NOT the default setting.
[09:08] <Nikesh> Oh that's really weird..
[09:09] <Nikesh> OK, maybe 'Secure Boot' ?
[09:11] <cfhowlett> might be easiest to search for someone who's installed to a matching device.  google you laptop make/model + ubuntu 14.04 installation
[09:11] <pi-> How can I copy http://rawgit.com/brython-dev/brython/master/www/src/* to ./foo/ ?
[09:12] <pi-> gottit, sorry
[09:15] <Kate6> Hai
[09:17] <geekstay> Hi everyone. I've got an error "Error in service module" when I try to connect on a session (Xubuntu 14.04). A black screen still appear when I boot, and when I try to connect with a tty, I've got this error. Could someone help me ?
[09:18] <powkie> i just did the free windows 10 upgrade and screwed up my bootloader. i thought it would only overwrite the MBR on fresh installs. anyway,  here's what boot repair says:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/12149518/
[09:18] <cfhowlett> powkie, of course it screwed your bootloader.  that's what windows does.  reinstall grub to fix.
[09:18] <powkie> there seems to be some overlap in the tables and the file system isn't recognized by boot repair
[09:18] <cfhowlett> !grub2 | powkie
[09:18] <Kate6> Win10 install a few days ago left my GRUB alone.
[09:19] <thealpine> it sounds impossible
[09:19] <Kate6> I was surprised as heck, actually went and found my Ubuntu USB install stick while Win10 was upgrading in prep for having to reinstall GRUB.
[09:19] <Kate6> Turned out I didn't need it.
[09:19] <Nikesh> cfhowlett: If I choose 'something else' for partitioning, what should I set it up as?
[09:20] <cfhowlett> Nikesh, no you should let ubuntu do it' s automatic install
[09:20] <Nikesh> OK
[09:20] <cfhowlett> eraase and install
[09:20] <Kate6> Uh, you should do the automatic install.
[09:21] <Kate6> If you do partition yourself, make sure you have a reasonably sized swap partition...  The main reason people sometimes partition themselves is on a multi user system, to have the /home folders on their own partition so users who upload a ton of random stuff can't screw with the system's ability to update its software.
[09:21] <samthewildone> so hey guys, I have a situation
[09:22] <wileee> powkie, sda5 and sda6 was your linux setup, raid?
[09:22] <thealpine> let's discover this situation+
[09:22] <samthewildone> I successfully installed ubuntu server 14.04.3 but, the fonts are to small and I did the "dpkg reconfigure consolo..." and the fonts are still small
[09:23] <samthewildone> there has to be a way where I can get the fonts biger than what they are, this is killing me
[09:23] <samthewildone> its like 8pt
[09:23] <thealpine> you have to get
[09:23] <cfhowlett> !server | samthewildone,  ask the server folk
[09:23] <thealpine> unity-tweak-tool
[09:24] <powkie> wileee: yea, well 4, 5, and 6
[09:24] <thealpine> it'll let you modify fonts and many other things
[09:24] <cfhowlett> server doesn't have unity.   unity tweak tool will do nothing
[09:25] <thealpine> you're right
[09:25] <thealpine> so you have to type from terminal
[09:25] <thealpine> sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup
[09:26] <wileee> powkie, So what was the ubuntu setup on sda5/
[09:26] <wileee> ?
[09:29] <wileee> powkie, The script is showing nothing there, sda5, if we can get more info we might know why.
[09:31] <wileee> anyway good help here gotta crash myself
[09:51] <powkie> internet crapped out.  someone was helping me a second ago but i forgot the nick
[09:51] <powkie> they had asked something about why "linux raid autodetect" was listed as a system type
[09:53] <bekks> powkie: And you answered that you had a raid running on sda4, 5 and 6.
[09:54] <powkie> yea
[10:07] <erkan^> Why doesn't Java (www.java.com) in the Software Centre?
[10:10] <Ben64> erkan^: you're missing at least one word
[10:11] <erkan^> what mean you, Ben64 ?
[10:12] <Ben64> you're not making sense
[10:17] <jak> hi everyone. I have a machine with two HDDs, one has / and is failing. I would like to install a fresh installation to the other disk, and boot from that. However I have no USB drives to hand, and no CD drive.
[10:17] <jak> Can I copy a live CD contents to the alternative drive, and start installation from there?
[10:18] <jak> Is that even sane? :)
[10:18] <erkan^> You are right, Ben64
[10:18] <NegativeFlare> jak: o_o Nope
[10:18] <NegativeFlare> Linux doesn't work like that
[10:22] <jak> No way to copy over some necessary files, and then boot from that disk? Like a manual installation rather than using the installer
[10:26] <powkie> ok, could someone tell me if my understanding is right? im trying to reinstall grub after a windows 10 upgrade. to do that with a live USB, I need to mount the partition with the MBR (/dev/sda1) and then run sudo grub-install /dev/sda1?
[10:28] <NegativeFlare> powkie: nope
[10:28] <NegativeFlare> sudo grub-install /dev/sda
[10:29] <NegativeFlare> not sda1
[10:29] <NegativeFlare> you don't want to install grub on to your main parition D:
[10:30] <powkie> NegativeFlare: hrm...i think i have a fundamental misunderstanding of something :)
[10:30] <NegativeFlare> powkie: /dev/sda is your main HD, also it references to your MBR
[10:30] <NegativeFlare> /dev/sda1 is your primary HD's parition
[10:30] <NegativeFlare> or one of them
[10:31] <powkie> right
[10:31] <powkie> let me google the error message. then i'll bother you again
[10:31] <NegativeFlare> Sounds good
[10:32] <NegativeFlare> powkie: far warning, I'm terrible with UEFI, so yeah.
[10:33] <NegativeFlare> fair*, excuse me
[10:38] <powkie> NegativeFlare: so i need to mount the root partition of my linux install, chroot over, THEN run grub-install?
[10:38] <NegativeFlare> o_o
[10:39] <NegativeFlare> powkie: sudo grub-install /dev/sda
[10:39] <siwica> When will ubuntu switch to a more recent version of ghc?
[10:39] <powkie> NegativeFlare:  grub-install: error: failed to get canonical path of `/cow'.
[10:39] <NegativeFlare> powkie: otherwise, idk. I haven't messed with Windows 10 (Linux Fanboy here)
[10:40] <jak> siwica: best to ask here : https://lists.debian.org/debian-haskell/
[10:51] <siwica> what is the general policy for packaging newer version of a particular software on ubuntuß
[10:51] <siwica> ?
[10:52] <NegativeFlare> siwica: Have you tried finding a PPA for it>
[10:53] <mniip> I've set Ctrl+Shift as my layout switch key, and now it shadows all key-combinations involving Ctrl+Shift
[10:53] <mniip> ...
[10:54] <phix> that's nice dear
[10:57] <auronandace> !backports | siwica
[10:59] <justatech> Whenever I shut down ubuntu It completesly shutdown for milli second and starts the pc again like giving the restarting instruction
[11:00] <BotchlaB> justatech: How do you shutdown Ubuntu, GUI or 'sudo shutdown -h now' in the terminal?
[11:00] <justatech> Gui till now
[11:01] <BotchlaB> justatech: I see; try and see what happens when you do it with the terminal. If /that/ works, then I guess the GUI is doing something silly.
[11:01] <justatech> Ok wait a minute
[11:04] <justatech> Nope BotchlaB
[11:04] <BotchlaB> justatech: "Nope" what? What does it do?
[11:04] <justatech> It. Didn't work
[11:05] <justatech> Restarted again
[11:05] <BotchlaB> Hm ; http://askubuntu.com/questions/165500/12-04-reboots-rather-than-shutting-down
[11:05] <BotchlaB> It seems this is something other people also experienced.
[11:06] <BotchlaB> justatech: Apparently, that has you go into the BIOS (assuming this is legacy hardware) and change some settings.
[11:06] <justatech> What shouldI do
[11:06] <BotchlaB> Read that link.
[11:06] <BotchlaB> " I finally went into the BIOS under Power Management and shut off everything except leaving base ACPI enabled."
[11:07] <BotchlaB> As per the AskUbuntu answer.
[11:07] <siwica> Is is possible to install the awesome wm alongside  unity?
[11:07] <bekks> siwica: Sure.
[11:07] <bekks> siwica: You just cannot use both at a time.
[11:07] <siwica> is there some tutorial for this?
[11:07] <bekks> !info awesome
[11:07] <TJ-> BotchlaB: So with original BIOS ACPI config + 10.04 it powered off; with original BIOS ACPI settings + 12.04 it reboots?
[11:07] <justatech> But where is ascp
[11:08] <bekks> siwica: sudo apt-get install awesome - no tutorial needed.
[11:08] <mniip> ugh
[11:08] <mniip> everything is breaking...
[11:08] <siwica> ok...
[11:08] <mniip> I've had more stability in gentoo
[11:08] <BotchlaB> TJ-: THat's what the AskUbuntu OP said. o.0 It's weird.
[11:09] <TJ-> BotchlaB: this is an issue for justatech? (I only just entered the channel so missed much of the context)
[11:09] <justatech> What shoulfd I do in bios which should I didable. Legacy usb
[11:09] <BotchlaB> TJ-: Oh, yes, indeed -- they came in asking something similar. 'sudo shutdown -h now' rebooted the computer as opposed to shutting it down.
[11:09] <BotchlaB> TJ-: <justatech> Whenever I shut down ubuntu It completesly shutdown for milli second and starts the pc again like giving the restarting instruction
[11:10] <Ben64> BotchlaB: have you tried 14.04
[11:10] <BotchlaB> Ask justatech. :)
[11:10] <BotchlaB> It's their problem, not mine.
[11:11] <Ben64> ooh
[11:11] <TJ-> justatech: ACPI controls the reboot actions. If it is failing, likely the PC has a buggy BIOS implementation in ACPI DSDT , and we may need to 'teach' the Linux kernel how to work around that.
[11:11] <TJ-> For all ACPI issues your first step should be to collect the kernel boot lof "/var/log/dmesg" which will contain, in detail, the discovered ACPI configuration, and pastebin it
[11:12] <TJ-> s/lof/log/
[11:12] <TJ-> justatech: "sudo apt-get install pastebinit" and then  "pastebinit /var/log/dmesg"
[11:23] <voodo> hello
[11:23] <Nikesh> If I have 8GB RAM, how much, if any, swap do I really need?
[11:24] <wafflejock> Nikesh: for suspend I believe you need to have the same amount of swap as your RAM but otherwise just depends on what programs your running, shouldn't be a problem though
[11:25] <wafflejock> Nikesh:  sorry believe that's hibernate not suspend https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq
[11:25] <Ben64> wafflejock: suspend to disk, normal suspend doesn't need swap
[11:25] <Ben64> yeah
[11:25] <Nikesh> Aha
[11:25] <wafflejock> Ben64: I always mix those up for some reason, don't really use either myself
[11:26] <Ben64> wafflejock: yeah me neither, this stays on 24/7
[11:33] <TJ-> Nikesh: for 8GiB RAM, and wanting Hibernation, I'd reserver a mimimum of 8.25GiB for the swap partition
[11:37] <foxyblast> league of legend
[11:40] <powkie> is there a channel specifically for help with testdisk?
[11:41] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[11:45] <ddclash> Hello
[11:59] <TBJR> cleaning out my computer case, I think I changed the order of the cables on my sata drives and now one of the drives doesn't auto mount anymore.  how do I update the new mount point/ points?
[12:00] <gvo> Shouldn't make a difference if you are using uuid's to identify partitions.
[12:01] <TJ-> TBJR: start with "sudo lsblk -f" and "blkid" to identify what's what, then look at "/etc/fstab" and possibly "/etc /crypttab" (for encrypted systems)
[12:03] <powkie> upgrading to windows 10 seems to have fucked up my partition tables.  does anyone think there's a chance that reverting back to windows 8 will also revert the partitions?
[12:03] <TBJR> TJ-: Thank you
[12:03] <TJ-> powkie: highly unlikely
[12:04] <powkie> yea...that's what I expected
[12:05] <TJ-> powkie: Did it lose a Linux install?
[12:05] <powkie> im not sure
[12:05] <powkie> TJ-: https://dpaste.de/CNmD#L63
[12:06] <powkie> oops, i didn't mean to highlight that line
[12:07] <powkie> TJ-: so far I havent been able to re-install grub. im not sure if that is due to incompetence though
[12:07] <bekks> powkie: Yes, I know it. Windows 8 will not revert anything.
[12:08] <TJ-> powkie: Ouch, that looks terrible
[12:08] <powkie> I can't mount anything. it says the FS aren't recognized
[12:08] <powkie> and I have no idea why it is RAIDed
[12:08] <bekks> powkie: Because you installed it like that, at least thats what you told us.
[12:09] <powkie> bekks: I never said I installed it like that.  I said that it was on those partitions in a RAID setup
[12:09] <powkie> i was just reporting back from the log files
[12:10] <TJ-> powkie: remember that testdisk may be giving false positives. Those potentially corrupt RAID superblock may actually be data from Linux executables
[12:11] <TJ-> powkie: some executables will contain 'template' metadata structures that are written to disk when a RAID member is created, and values filled in
[12:11] <TJ-> powkie: if it were GPT you might have had a chance to recover from the 2nd partition table, but with MBR you don't. It looks as if the Windows installer expected the entire disk was for it
[12:12] <powkie> hrm...
[12:12] <TBJR> TJ-: I got it fixed, thank you so much for your help!
[12:13] <powkie> TJ-: so im screwed?
[12:13] <TJ-> powkie: yes. If there was vital data on there photorec and a lot of manual examination of the recovered blocks might find some of it
[12:14] <powkie> TJ-: yea, I had been working two weeks on a project. i had committed but hadn't pushed :/
[12:14] <powkie> i can't believe i didn't push
[12:14] <TJ-> powkie: the joys of backup :)
[12:15] <TJ-> powkie: especially before an OS upgrade!
[12:15] <powkie> yea....i dont know what i was thinking
[12:15] <powkie> or wasn't thinking
[12:16] <powkie> my boss isn't going to be happy
[12:16] <BBLLCC> i have a libreoffice document with 489 comments. Comments are corrections of the original text. I want the documento to show only the comments as corrections, instead of the original text. How do I do that?
[12:16] <powkie> TJ-: can photorec be used on an encrypted disk?
[12:17] <TJ-> powkie: not unless you can identify where the device starts, and have an intact LUKS header, or you backed up the header to another device
[12:18] <powkie> TJ-: no idea how to do that
[12:18] <TJ-> powkie: If it was encrypted, might as well just restart coding and hope you can catch up to where you were
[12:20] <powkie> TJ-: no idea how to do that
[12:20] <powkie> oops
[12:20] <powkie> maybe i'll just become a carpenter
[12:26] <Omilun> hello
[12:27] <Omilun> i have some error befor grub like this error : usb 2-1.6-port 1: cannot reset (err =-32") ubuntu
[12:27] <Omilun> and i cant go on my desktup
[12:28] <BBLLCC> In the prining dialog, choose Comments:, what is prinning?
[12:28] <TJ-> BBLLCC: do you mean'printing' ?
[12:29] <BBLLCC> apparently
[12:30] <Omilun> when i turn on mu laptop and i enter on ubuntu 15.04 i need to see a login page but i cant see it
[12:30] <Omilun> and i see some error like those error
[12:31] <Omilun> i can use shell on 5 worksapase  but i cant see desktop
[12:32] <Omilun> 2-1.6-port 1: cannot reset (err =-32)
[12:33] <TJ-> Omilun: You have a failed USB device. Disconnect it
[12:33] <nanashiRei> Hi i have a question regarding effective costs for landscape if i ever go over 10 servers and don't want support
[12:35] <dbkaplun> I wrote a CLI text editor, what do you guys think? https://github.com/slap-editor/slap
[12:38] <Omilun> TJ-: how can desconnect it?
[12:40] <TJ-> Omilun: Identify the device; unplug it. If it is an internal device (in a laptop maybe) then you have a greater problem. Maybe it is a software issue and a recent kernel upgrade brought this on. In which case test by starting with an older kernel from the boot-loader's "Advanced" menu
[12:41] <Omilun> TJ-: it say cannot enable . maybe the usb cable is bad?
[12:42] <pokst> hi guys someone can help me with web developement issue?
[12:43] <xfceKris> Can hirens boot cd be installed to usb via linux? http://www.hirensbootcd.org/usb-booting/ only shows a method for windows.
[12:43] <xfceKris> I suppose I could use wine to run the .exe files
[12:43] <xfceKris> Not sure if it would work though.
[12:44] <pokst> ?
[12:45] <pokst> maybe with sudo dd?
[12:47] <pokst> maybe someone knows web developement channels/rooms ?
[12:48] <xfceKris>  cant dd a windows exe installer
[12:48] <xfceKris> might be able to unpack it though.
[12:48]  * xfceKris is off to google
[12:48] <pokst> i doubt it..
[12:55] <xfceKris> doesn't matter anyway. Have to re-download hirens boot cd 15.2 anyway. Chromium didn't complete the download last time.
[12:55] <xfceKris> ...any way to use ftp for it?
[12:55]  * xfceKris off to google again.
[13:00] <aeden__d> trying to "/usr/share/doc/openvpn/examples/sample-config-files/server.conf.gz > /etc/openvpn/server.conf" but I get a permission denied. Suggestions? tried su, same result
[13:01] <aeden__d> using gunzip -c to extract ^
[13:05] <evon> Hey everyone.  I have a laptop that can be converted into a table.  Has anyone used unity on such a laptop? and if so, what has your experience been? I am using ubuntu gnome right now and I don't really like it's touch capabilities
[13:10] <aeden__d> problem solved... used "sudo su" to run the command.
[13:16] <Twirl> kind of off-topic quesiton, anyone knows how to paste from the terminal into open office calc and keep column structure? http://i.imgur.com/gcbtf5l.png
[13:24] <aeden__d> Twirl, where is that table from. Mysql?
[13:24] <Twirl> aeden__d: yes
[13:27] <zykotick9> aeden__d: fyi, "sudo su" isn't a good idea...  perhaps "sudo -i" if you really need a root terminal (you don't by the way)...
[13:28] <aeden__d> zykotick9, I went with "sudo su" should I exit and use "sudo -i" ?
[13:28] <zykotick9> aeden__d: yes.
[13:29] <aeden__d> done
[13:29] <zykotick9> aeden__d: fyi, sudo has problems with redirection > you can use "tee" instead...
[13:30] <aeden__d> zykotick9, that change wont effect the perms on the actions I've already performed will it?
[13:31] <zykotick9> aeden__d: "sudo -i" is the more-proper (but still silly) method of doing the same thing as su [get a root shell] on other distros
[13:31] <aeden__d> zykotick9, ok, thank you
[13:32] <linocisco> hi
[13:33] <linocisco> what is the shortcut for prompt like Windows Key + R to get "run" dialogbox where we can temporary type something before we can copy?
[13:34] <zykotick9> linocisco: try alt+f2 i think...
[13:35] <linocisco> zykotick9, not working. it is for volume up and down. thanks anyway
[13:39] <aeden__d> Twirl, I don't know if this will help, you've probably researched this already, but I found this --> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/467452/dump-a-mysql-database-to-a-plaintext-csv-backup-from-the-command-line
[13:39] <linocisco> what is the shortcut for prompt like Windows Key + R to get "run" dialogbox where we can temporary type something before we can copy? or any tiny notepad?
[13:40] <Twirl> aeden__d: yes that's what i'm going to do after i'm done with this
[13:45] <linocisco> what is the shortcut for prompt like Windows Key + R to get "run" dialogbox where we can temporary type something before we can copy? or any tiny notepad?
[13:45] <Jackevansevo> linocisco: perhaps look into installing a clipboard manager utility
[13:45] <denis_> hi
[13:46] <Jackevansevo> linocisco: I'd recommend using gpaste
[13:47] <linocisco> Jackevansevo, apt-get install gpaste?
[13:48] <Jackevansevo> yeah that should work, I also think there is a more up to date repository
[13:50] <Jackevansevo> linocisco: on second thought, I think gpaste might be exclusively for gnome-shell, if you want something that works anywhere try parcellite
[13:51] <linocisco> Jackevansevo, I am on 15.04 and think gnome by default
[13:51] <RedBlue> Why do Ubuntu distros' display drivers work on live cd mode but not after installing? (e.g. black screen) and why you're always told to install the propietary driver as if getting the xorg driver to work again like in the livecd wasn't possible?
[13:51] <Jackevansevo> linocisco: try it and see :)
[13:52] <nickz> hi guys m trying to install ubuntu 15.04 on my hp pavalion laptop but since i'm trying to use it in live usb session it is asking for user login and password although i tried to use user name as "ubuntu" with blank password it is also not working
[13:52] <nickz> what to do
[13:52] <nickz> any one
[13:53] <Jackevansevo> nickz: at what point is it prompting you to type in a password?
[13:53] <nickz> during live usb session
[13:54] <nickz> Jackevansevo: i have windows 8 already installed
[13:54] <linocisco> Jackevansevo, gpaste is supposed to run on terminal. my idea is to get blank text box where I can type and copy like ensuring typing difficult password and copy instead of directly typing in password prompt in forms
[13:55] <ayylmao> hello, is there any way I can change router's default DNS address to Google's without using static IP from my router.
[13:56] <bekks> ayylmao: That depends on your router, and is described in its manual.
[13:57] <ayylmao> I dont want to use google's dns on my router, only on my laptop. It is possible if I use static IP from my router, but thats not what im looking for here.
[13:58] <ayylmao> if I change DNS from connection setting, primary DNS is always the default from router, only secondary DNS changes, which is no good.
[13:58] <nickz> Jackevansevo: any idea
[13:58] <bekks> ayylmao: DNS configuration of your router isnt an Ubuntu issue ;)
[13:59] <Jackevansevo> nickz: if you want a text box to paste passwords into why not just use a lightweight text editor like gedit or mousepad?
[13:59] <ayylmao> bekks: i know, i want DNS change only on my laptop
[13:59] <Jackevansevo> nickz: I'm struggling to understand the usecase
[13:59] <bekks> ayylmao: So change it then. Thats no biggie :)
[14:00] <bekks> ayylmao: In the setting of your connection in NetworkManager you can specify your desired DNS servers.
[14:01] <ayylmao> bekks: problem is, i can't change it. I have to use static IP to change it. It is not a router's issue you see, you can use any router you want. You can't use dynamic IP from router.
[14:01] <ayylmao> bekks: <ayylmao> if I change DNS from connection setting, primary DNS is always the default from router, only secondary DNS changes, which is no good
[14:01] <bekks> ayylmao: you can specify your desired DNS servers when using DHCP.
[14:02] <ayylmao> yes of course, I can do that. But i cannot do that. Thanks anyways guys. :)
[14:02] <ayylmao> have fun
[14:02] <ayylmao> going back to windows
[14:02] <linocisco> Jackevansevo, hi I have install parcellite and can't see any input box to type in
[14:03] <Jackevansevo> linocisco: if you click on it, it should show all your copy and paste history, so you shouldn't have to type into a seperate text box
[14:04] <Jackevansevo> linocisco: just highlight the thing you want to use later and copy it to your clipboard
[14:06] <linocisco> Jackevansevo, thanks
[14:07] <linocisco> Jackevansevo, I found something I want. i quit parcellite. and ctrl+alt+0 to get to desktop view
[14:08] <Ju-no[Orion]> hola
[14:08] <linocisco> and thought parcellite is not running anymore and when I typed key strokes, they appeared in the right down corner as in text box
[14:08] <linocisco> Jackevansevo, sometimes it appeared before, sometimes not
[14:09] <jeffreylevesque> anyone know what the `task` event is for upstart scripts?
[14:22] <linocisco> hi all,  how to configure HDD for dualboot? one is for Ubuntu Server and one is for CentOS
[14:23] <ikonia> linocisco: just seperate partitions
[14:23] <ikonia> linocisco: be aware though, that maintaining 2 grub installs may get complex fo ryou
[14:24] <CyberGlo> how do i edit start menu items in ubuntu ?
[14:25] <linocisco> ikonia, how to separate
[14:25] <ikonia> linocisco: 2 partitions
[14:25] <benjamin_> hello :)
[14:25] <benjamin_> First time in Chat :D
[14:25] <CyberGlo> hello benjamin.
[14:25] <linocisco> ikonia, i am now with free 250GB space and running ubuntu server installer
[14:25] <CyberGlo> do you know how to edit start menu shortcuts in ubuntu?
[14:26] <CyberGlo> oh.
[14:27] <desktop-linux> hello, can someone help me? i need a newer version of thunderbird then 31
[14:27] <Jackevansevo> CyberGlo: check out an application called MenuLibre
[14:27] <Siente> Hello guys, If I want to use LXDE as a graphic environment should I install lubuntu or I can just install LXDE on Ubuntu?
[14:27] <CyberGlo> thank you Jackevansevo.
[14:28] <Jackevansevo> CyberGlo: I don't think Unity default has one built in, but other DE's like KDE, Mate and XFCE certaintly do
[14:34] <CyberGlo> Jackevansevo i am using gnome desktop with avant window navigator (awn) which is much much speedier on this old laptop than using gnome with unity.  would you know what the name is of the built in one?
[14:34] <OerHeks> desktop-linux, you will need to download & build from source, or find a testing risky PPA, both are not supported here, it is on your own risc.
[14:35] <desktop-linux> OerHeks: why there is only version 31 on the offical paa? thunderbird has alrdy version 38....
[14:35] <desktop-linux> i ask because only with new then 31 gmail get supportet
[14:35] <desktop-linux> *newer
[14:36] <Mia> Hey all I got a question
[14:36] <cfhowlett> !ask | Mia
[14:37] <OerHeks> desktop-linux, 31.8.0 is 'just' from 15-Jul-2015  ...
[14:37] <Mia> I'm new to linux and I want to crete my self a usb stic -- I would like to make a full installation on a usb stick. I tried it and it worked but the file contents of my usb disc is no more accessible through windows.
[14:37] <cfhowlett> !persistence | Mia
[14:37] <ikonia> Mia: windows cannot read linux file systems
[14:37] <cfhowlett> Mia, windows doesn't read linux.
[14:37] <Mia> So I was thinking to format my usb and make a new install, and make partitions in a way that I can also use my usb in windows
[14:38] <OerHeks> desktop-linux, it is a stable release with bugfixes. your issue with gmail is well known, i cannot connect either.
[14:38] <ikonia> Mia: why don't you do a "normal" install to a hard disk
[14:38] <ikonia> to make this simple
[14:38] <Mia> ikonia, I want to carry this stick aroudn with me
[14:38] <OerHeks> ikonia, iirc win10 has ext3/4 support now :-(
[14:38] <Mia> and use it for necessary stuff and, as a regular usb
[14:38] <ikonia> OerHeks: not here it doesn't
[14:39] <ikonia> Mia: you're going to have problems swapping it between machines
[14:39] <ikonia> depending on the hardware
[14:39] <Siente> guys I've installed LXDE on my Ubuntu, but it doesn't look good
[14:39] <ikonia> Mia: just lay the file system out with spare space then on the USB
[14:39] <TJ-> Huh? I've had thunderbird connected faultlessly to gmail for years.
[14:39] <desktop-linux> OerHeks: ok... then i need to w8... i dont want do manuel instlations ...
[14:39] <CyberGlo> Jackevansevo, thank you!  MenuLibre does exactly what I need.  Awesome.  :)
[14:40] <Mia> what do you mean ikonia ? so my qustion is this: is it possible to partition the usb stick in a way that I can make a full installation on it but also make my windows see a part of it ?
[14:40] <Mia> if so, what file format should I set form mywindows-enbled partition?
[14:40] <ikonia> Mia: yes, just partition the disk for ubuntu, but don't use the full disk
[14:40] <cfhowlett> Mia, if windows can see it, windows can wreck it.
[14:40] <Mia> *file system
[14:40] <diegoaguilar> Hello, I installed a Ubuntu GNOME to a laptop with a AMD R7 graphics card, when I installed propietary driver, everything messed up
[14:40] <jeffreylevesque> what does this mean: Without the 'task' keyword, the events that cause the job to start will be unblocked as soon as the job is started. This means the job has emitted a starting(7) event, run its pre-start, begun its script/exec, and post-start, and emitted its started(7) event.
[14:40] <ikonia> Mia: then have a seperate partition, for your windows storage
[14:40] <Mia> ikonia, fat32?
[14:40] <diegoaguilar> what desktop environment would give more stability?
[14:40] <Mia> fat32 is old, but there is no ntfs selection
[14:41] <cfhowlett>  morpheus
[14:41] <ikonia> Mia: what ever you want
[14:41] <Mia> ikonia, but windows don't see some of them -- so it does not work like that I believe
[14:41] <ikonia> windows can see any microsoft based file system
[14:41] <Mia> I mean I'm new in all this -- I need to know what type of partition is good to use with ubuntu and windows at the same time
[14:42] <sideboard> hy, i recently upgraded from 14.04 to 15.04; now i can't find the quirks-table.h in the linux source package, which i used to get ubuntu recognize my usb audio interface (UR44); any idea where i can find it or how to  to replicate its behavior?
[14:42] <Siente> guys which version of Ubuntu would you recommend me to install 15.04 or 14.04.3 LTS ?
[14:42] <Mia> ikonia, what are my choices?
[14:42] <ikonia> Mia: none
[14:42] <ikonia> Mia: fat32 is your closest
[14:42] <diegoaguilar> Siente, always LTS for stability
[14:42] <cfhowlett> Mia, the problem is installing to the usb and sharing with windows.  if you just make a regular ubuntu boot USB, windows CAN access the files.
[14:42] <Mia> what if I partition my usb in windows in ntfs format?
[14:42] <diegoaguilar> there could be "broken" stuff when u install a non LTS version
[14:42] <ikonia> Mia: then it will have nfts on it
[14:42] <Gamodr> Hi everyone, I got a routing problem with my odroid running under ubuntu 14.04: I have assigned a static IP to it and a dhcp IP via wlan. In principle, it should have an internet connection using the WLAN, but actually doesn't seem to have one (destination host unreachable)
[14:43] <Gamodr> It seems to try to use the LAN
[14:43] <diegoaguilar> I guess it would be stage, or a particularity with ur hardware or some software dependencies
[14:43] <cfhowlett> !usb | mia this is the recommended method
[14:43] <Mia> cfhowlett, regular boot usb does not keep changes though
[14:43] <sander_> Mia: windows: ntfs, linux: ext3/4
[14:43] <diegoaguilar> but I can happen
[14:43] <Siente> diegoaguilar, but for my hardware, maybe I need something new that's my PC specs http://pastebin.com/DApbbK5h
[14:43] <Mia> and I tried persistent installing, it was REALLY slow, both on ubuntu and on elementaryos
[14:43] <ikonia> Mia: you're running from slow media
[14:43] <ikonia> all being held in "ram"
[14:43] <ikonia> hence why the idea is not a good one
[14:43] <diegoaguilar> nah Siente
[14:43] <diegoaguilar> its ok with LTS
[14:44] <Mia> ikonia, but when I do a full install it's not slow like persistent install
[14:44] <diegoaguilar> its a really nice computer
[14:44] <Mia> it was totally fine
[14:44] <ikonia> Mia: because it's not being held in ram
[14:44] <diegoaguilar> btw Siente how expensive is ur CPU?
[14:44] <Mia> ikonia, then I should not do persistent install :)
[14:44] <ikonia> Mia: no
[14:44] <Siente> I've bought it in september 2013
[14:44] <diegoaguilar> I just bought 32GB of RAM for less than 250 USD
[14:44] <Mia> So back to my question: how can I make a full install on a usb stick, and partition it in a way that windows can also access the usb
[14:44] <Mia> (at least partly)
[14:45] <ikonia> Mia: as I've told you 3 times
[14:45] <ikonia> Mia:  you need a partition not part of the install, that both ubuntu and windows can see, eg: fat32
[14:45] <desktop-linux> ok next question, an simpel grafikhik editor
[14:45] <Mia> ikonia, ikonia can ubuntu see ntfs
[14:46] <sander_> Mia: you make two partitions on the usb drive, one ext3/4, one ntfs/fat. you install linux on the ext partition
[14:46] <ikonia> Mia: yes
[14:46] <sander_> Mia: if you choose FAT, remember that there will be a maximum file size limit
[14:46] <Mia> sander_, thanks ---
[14:46] <Mia> 4 gigs right?
[14:47] <sander_> Mia, something like that iirc, yes
[14:47] <Mia> sander_, where should I partition my usb stick? ubuntu advanced installer can not create ntfs files
[14:47] <Siente> diegoaguilar, nice
[14:47] <Mia> I mean ntfs partition
[14:49] <cfhowlett> Mia, gparted can do
[14:50] <sander_> Mia, indeed, gparted like cfhowlett sugested
[14:59] <TheJoeCoastie> Is there a lighter version of ubuntu out there. I'm running 15.04 on an older MacBook Pro and it seems kind of clunky (it tried Fedora too but couldn't get wifi working, it works great in ubuntu though).
[14:59] <cfhowlett> !lubuntu | TheJoeCoastie
[14:59] <TheJoeCoastie> Awesome. Thanks.
[15:00] <OerHeks> I would say Xubuntu, libuntu is for really old machines.
[15:00] <OerHeks> *lubuntu
[15:00] <ubuntu-mate> sup
[15:00] <TheJoeCoastie> It's not that old of a machine. So I may look at that too OerHeks
[15:01] <ubuntu-mate> i'm 80 years old, my son gave me this computer
[15:01] <cfhowlett> ubuntu-mate, good son!
[15:02] <ubuntu-mate> is this the internet
[15:02] <cfhowlett> ubuntu-mate, this is internet relay chat so ... part of the internet, yes.
[15:07] <rts-> hello all
[15:08] <rts-> I'm having some difficulties with something on Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS if someone is willing to help for a second
[15:08] <SchrodingersScat> !ask | rts-
[15:10] <rts-> Ok. I installed gnome and unity on Ubuntu Server 14.04.3 LTS... I purged and then reinstalled ubuntu-desktop to get back unity, but now when i login and type startx, the X server crashes.. i cannot get Unity to load
[15:10] <ikonia> what does the Xorg logs show ?
[15:10] <cfhowlett> rts-, server?  + gui?
[15:11] <rts-> cfhowlett, the server boots to the command line, the GUI is only needed in rare cases, it doesn't run all the time, hence the reason lightdm doesn't load at boot
[15:12] <rts-> ikonia.. the final line in the log is "[   133.794] (EE) Server terminated successfully (0). Closing log file."
[15:13] <ikonia> didn't ask for the final log
[15:13] <ikonia> line
[15:13] <ikonia> I asked for you to read the log to look for the failure
[15:13] <rts-> there is no failure in the log file
[15:13] <ikonia> there is
[15:13] <ikonia> or it would be running
[15:15] <rts-> i just checked again, there is no error
[15:15] <ikonia> there is
[15:15] <rts-> i can send you the file if you would like to check
[15:15] <ikonia> or it would be starting up
[15:15] <ikonia> grep EE in the file
[15:16] <cappe> Could you guys please update to the latest Wine version on the servers?
[15:16] <Hercules> can anyone please send me a free disc of ubuntu server??
[15:16] <ikonia> cappe: no
[15:16] <ikonia> Hercules: download/burn yourself
[15:16] <ikonia> Hercules: or buy a linux magazine
[15:16] <cfhowlett> Hercules, no.  you have internet.  download it.
[15:16] <OerHeks> Shipit stopped, Hercules
[15:17] <Hercules> I have a slow internet, my parents won't buy me a better internet.
[15:17] <ikonia> Hercules: go to a library/school
[15:17] <Hercules> I'm a kid.
[15:17] <ikonia> buy a magazine with it on
[15:17] <rts-> there are seven lines ikonia, i don't want to flood the channel
[15:17] <Hercules> Do you think we have Linux Magazines?
[15:17] <ikonia> rts-: ok - but there are your errors
[15:17] <ikonia> Hercules: yes
[15:17] <cfhowlett> Hercules, so you CAN download, it'll just take time? 1st world problemz ...
[15:17] <Hercules> nah we don't
[15:17] <Hercules> Its India.
[15:17] <cappe> Will you please update wine?
[15:17] <ikonia> Hercules: ok, contact your LUG
[15:17] <ikonia> cappe: no
[15:17] <Hercules> cfhowlett: It will take me an year to download then.
[15:17] <Hercules> ikonia: Tried but nothing got happen.
[15:18] <cfhowlett> Hercules, go to your local linux user group.  they are all over india.  they'll have ubuntu.
[15:18] <rts-> inking - i do not know what nay of them mean
[15:18] <ikonia> Hercules: ok, then we can't do anything more fo ryou
[15:18] <ikonia> for you
[15:18] <Hercules> cfhowlett: Tried the LUG at the IIT Kanpur.
[15:18] <bbroadstone> Is there a way to access a windows phone and vice versa on ubuntu
[15:18] <cfhowlett> Hercules, or contact your computer science department at your university.
[15:18] <Hercules> cfhowlett: I am a kid
[15:18] <Hercules> cfhowlett: I am in grade 9th.
[15:18] <rts-> [   133.374] (EE) open /dev/dri/card0: No such file or directory
[15:19] <Hercules> cfhowlett: People don't know much about Linux in here even.
[15:19] <ikonia> Hercules: we can't help you then
[15:19] <rts-> [   133.374] (EE) Screen 0 deleted because of no matching config section.
[15:19] <OerHeks> Hercules, have patience with a slow download, that is how i started 10 years ago too.
[15:19] <NegativeFlare> Hercules: you really can't say that, many people in here know TONS about Linux.
[15:19] <rts-> [   133.375] (EE) FBDEV(0): FBIOBLANK: Invalid argument
[15:19] <ikonia> rts-: please stop pasting random stuff
[15:19] <cfhowlett> Hercules, do you have facebook?
[15:19] <NegativeFlare> rts-: pastebin please.
[15:19] <Hercules> NegativeFlare: Come to India and see.
[15:20] <Hercules> cfhowlett: Nope.
[15:20] <Hercules> NegativeFlare: People know more about Windows than the Linux.
[15:20] <NegativeFlare> Hercules: In here, as in this channel.
[15:20] <Hercules> I am 14, not allowed to use fb.
[15:20] <ikonia> Hercules: ok - lets stop here
[15:20] <ikonia> Hercules: we can't help you in this channel
[15:20] <ikonia> Hercules: try your local ubuntu loco team
[15:20] <cfhowlett> Hercules, https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in          https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IndianTeam          here you go.  either one will be happy to help.
[15:20] <Hercules> cfhowlett: I have mailed first before contacting here
[15:21] <rts-> NegativeFlare: http://pastebin.com/kBVKs122
[15:21] <Hercules> cfhowlett: There has been a month and no reply.
[15:21] <Supermanintights> hey guys, i'm trying to install the nvdia gfx driver for the GTX 750ti, however I've developed a few issues, and upon my last restart, I'm currently staring at the Ubuntu splash screen for over 3 minutes, and nothing else is happening, I can't access the desktop now
[15:21] <cfhowlett> Hercules,  #ubuntu-in
[15:21] <NegativeFlare> rts-: What am I looking at?
[15:21] <Hercules> cfhowlett: No one active and respond ever.
[15:21] <NegativeFlare> I didn't get to see the problem.
[15:21] <cappe> nvm I got it working anyway
[15:21] <rts-> NegativeFlare the error messages from the X.org log file.. my xserver keeps exiting when i try to start it with startx
[15:22] <cfhowlett> Hercules, you have mail.  order linux magazine by postal.
[15:22] <OerHeks> sudo service lightdm start
[15:22] <NegativeFlare> rts-: It looks like the driver can't find your card, thus bombing out.
[15:22] <liu> hello
[15:22] <liu> guys
[15:22] <bbroadstone> Still learning the game here, does the fact no one responded mean no one knows
[15:22] <Hercules> cfhowlett: How?
[15:22] <cfhowlett> liu, ask your ubuntu question
[15:22] <cfhowlett> Hercules, come on, man.  you're 14.  pretty sure you can figure how to order a magazine.  ask mommy or daddy.
[15:22] <rts-> negativeflare: any ideas on fixing this problem? it all started from having both gnome and unity installed
[15:23] <NegativeFlare> rts-: I wouldn't know, I use Xubuntu.
[15:23] <liu> sorry , i have a python gui question
[15:23] <Hercules> cfhowlett: They don't know about linux.
[15:23] <cfhowlett> liu, python?  might want to ask #python.
[15:23] <liu> thank you
[15:24] <hilbilly_> bbroadstone, have you simply hooked it up via usb cable?
[15:24] <bbroadstone> ye
[15:24] <bbroadstone> p
[15:24] <rts-> OerHeks, that gets it to the login screen, but when i attempt to login it says "Failed to Start Session"
[15:24] <Supermanintights> Apologies for repeating the question - does anyone have any ideas or suggestions for my issue mentioned above?
[15:24] <bbroadstone> shotwell is the only application that has any functionality it seems
[15:24] <hilbilly_> never knew anyone who used a windows phone
[15:25] <OerHeks> rts-, now you are one step closer to the solution
[15:25] <uft> /quit
[15:25] <OerHeks> rts login with ctrl alt f2, and do a ls -al # see if .Xauthority is owned by you or root
[15:26] <rts-> oerheks owned by me
[15:26] <bbroadstone> im looking to put music on my phone
[15:27] <bbroadstone> is there an ubuntu linux api that serves windows mobile clients?
[15:28] <ikonia> not that I'm aware of
[15:28] <OerHeks> rts-, hmm i hoped it was owned by root, than i am out of ideas
[15:29] <bbroadstone> @hilbilly, from your link: "WP8 Root Tools is not a reality as of now"
[15:29] <rts-> I've already force reinstalled the ubuntu-desktop package set...
[15:29] <hilbilly_> oh  :(
[15:30] <TJ-> rts-: check "/var/log/dmesg" - you'll probably find the GPU driver failed (to load) in some way
[15:31] <TJ-> rts-: also check "cat /proc/cmdline" in case the system booted with "nomodeset"
[15:32] <David_W617> Hi can someone help me reinstall grub on my btrfs partition? I was trying to switch to uefi but I just broke it instead.
[15:33] <David_W617> My boot information is here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12147181/
[15:33] <rts-> TJ, no evidence of driver failing to load, and it didn't boot with nomodeset
[15:33] <Nelson1> ***Nelson1 wonders if freenode likes to throw him out every 10-15 mins
[15:33] <TJ-> rts-: what does "lspci -nnk | grep -A 3 VGA" report?
[15:34] <rts-> Is it possible to entirely remove the GUI packages? I believe if I start with a fresh stock unity install all will work
[15:34] <claudemir> alguem do brasil
[15:34] <cfhowlett> !br | claudemir
[15:34] <claudemir> ?
[15:34] <rts-> TJ, its a VM, so it says "01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Parallels, Inc. Accelerated Virtual Video Adapter [1ab8:4005]
[15:34] <rts-> 	Subsystem: Parallels, Inc. Device [1ab8:0400]"
[15:34] <bekks> rts-: Reinstalling packages dont fix issues. This isnt Windows :)
[15:35] <rts-> beaks, well this all did work before i was testing out gnome
[15:35] <bekks> rts-: And reinstalling packages will not fix that.
[15:36] <TJ-> rts-: OK, is the guest expects the X server's xorg-vesa driver?
[15:36] <TJ-> rts-: Is there a "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" ?
[15:37] <OerHeks> rts-, you should have said from the beginning, a vm ...
[15:37] <Rousseau> #ubuntu
[15:38] <rts-> TJ- no xorg.conf file. it must be named something else
[15:38] <justatech> hey i am newbie at Ubuntu recently installed and just tickling with it...the thing i want to learn is installing and downloading program,application but i have seen it is very hard i any one here plz plz offer me some tutorial...i want to know everything about installing in linux
[15:38] <ioria> rts- what happens if you select a session when you got the gui login screen  ?
[15:38] <seva112> hi all
[15:38] <Rousseau> hi
[15:39] <TJ-> rts-: that's fine; it just means the X server auto-configured itself
[15:39] <jeffreylevesque> is this a valid script - https://bpaste.net/show/1ef5118650b5
[15:39] <cfhowlett> justatech, install via Ubuntu software Center is easiest
[15:39] <TJ-> rts-: I assume the guest has the parallels-tools installed?
[15:39] <cfhowlett> !usc | justatech
[15:39] <Rousseau> sorry for the dumb question, but can i join a channel? there is a command
[15:39] <Rousseau> ?
[15:39] <rts-> TJ- no, it doesnt
[15:39] <vic> gr
[15:39] <seva112> how I can swap language?
[15:39] <cfhowlett> Rousseau, you've already joined this channel
[15:40] <rts-> ionia - i can start lightdm, but no matter which user i select, it says "failed to start session"
[15:40] <Rousseau> oh, ok. sorry
[15:40] <Rousseau> #ubuntu-55
[15:40] <ioria> rts-  not user, session.... from the little ubuntu-logo above
[15:40] <TJ-> rts-: OK, so from what I read you'd have to use the VESA driver. As far as I'm aware, the vesa driver doesn *not* support DRI, so I'm confused as to how this worked previously. Can you "pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[15:40] <rts-> lightdm gives this error when i try to login "** (lightdm:19310): WARNING **: Error activating login1 session: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.Failed: Operation not supported"
[15:41] <Rousseau> #ubuntu-<55>
[15:41] <cfhowlett> Rousseau, /join #channelnamehere
[15:41] <Rousseau> thanks
[15:41] <TJ-> rts-: the fragment from the Xorg log "(EE) open /dev/dri/card0: No such file or directory" definitely tells us there is no accelerated video device driver loaded
[15:42] <prohobo> hi
[15:43] <TJ-> rts-: also, can you "pastebinit <( ls -latr /etc/X11/ )"
[15:43] <prohobo> can a mod please unban one of my IPs? its been banned for a long long time
[15:43] <rts-> TJ - Xorg log http://pastebin.com/ezciSgQr
[15:43] <TJ-> rts-: it's possible there was an xorg.conf but it got moved to a backup due to a x-server start failure.
[15:44] <Mia> guys I could not manage to partition my pen drive and install ubuntu on one partition -- can someone give me some had please?
[15:44] <rts-> the results of your second command TJ- http://paste.ubuntu.com/12151451/
[15:45] <cfhowlett> Mia, make the install.  THEN use gparted to repartition the usb
[15:45] <TJ-> rts-: the log shows the x server is not using the VESA driver, and falls back to the software framebuffer driver. That's the symptom. Now we need the cause of that
[15:45] <OerHeks> prohobo, join #ubuntu-ops for that
[15:45] <Mia> OH! I see cfhowlett !
[15:45] <Mia> then another question --- do I need to make the empty partition primary to make windows see it?
[15:46] <cfhowlett> Mia, I believe so
[15:46] <rts-> TJ- that must be what occurs when i type 'startx'... but when i run lightdm i actually get a graphical login prompt, so the Xserver is running then no?
[15:46] <Mia> okay thank you very much! I'll try this now!
[15:46] <TJ-> rts-:  nothing there either; no back-up xorg.conf... so now lets look at "pastebinit /var/log/dmesg"
[15:46] <OerHeks> rts-, startx is depreciated, i guess.
[15:47] <TJ-> rts-: yes, it's using the FBDEV... but unity/gnome want accelerate 3D rendering via DRI, and it isn't there, so the server shuts down
[15:47] <rts-> TJ- http://paste.ubuntu.com/12151472/
[15:48] <prohobo> thx OerHeks
[15:48] <rts-> ah, when i had the gnome desktop installed i could get it to load, then load unity, but it was messy
[15:49] <TJ-> rts-: That confirms its using a frame-buffer device, not a DRI "[    3.734866] fb0: VESA VGA frame buffer device"
[15:49] <liu> can i ask a question about firefox?
[15:49] <cfhowlett> liu, ask away
[15:51] <liu> sometime firefox used 80% cpu resources
[15:51] <cfhowlett> liu, mulitple open tabs and plugins will do that
[15:52] <liu> but sometime only 5 tabs
[15:53] <xangua> liu what tabs/sites, what addons do you have, what is your question?
[15:55] <justintv90> please help, i cant set my launcher opacity, it cant be transparent
[15:55] <TJ-> rts-: did this begin after an upgrade to 14.04, or some other release?
[15:56] <rts-> TJ- no, its a fresh 14.04 LTS server install
[15:56] <rts-> i did make a mess i believe by trying out different window managers
[15:57] <cfhowlett> rtr-, actually, you installed the complete ubuntu-desktop not just the window managers.
[15:58] <TJ-> rts-: I'm reading a lot of reports that 14.04 and Parallels have problems. (re)installing parallels-tools apparently sometimes help, as does upgrading Parallels to the latest version
[16:00] <rts-> Thanks for the help TJ-, i think i may just start fresh, i haven't set much of the PBX up yet, and I think i have made an irreversible mess of the file system anyway with installing so many GUI components trying to find the best setup
[16:02] <TJ-> rts-: see this KB entry http://kb.parallels.com/en/121300
[16:02] <Jumpman> Can someone help me with this? I want to get the flash player plugin working on chromium but I don't know how
[16:02] <justintv90> Someone can help me this launcher issue. please ?
[16:09] <TJ-> rts-: This may also help; it'll create the missing xorg.conf  "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg"
[16:14] <baldurk> hey I have configured my xorg.conf to use multiple monitors (in particular, 'primary' on my onboard card, and two secondary on my discrete card). They work, I get an X cursor, but the ubuntu desktop doesn't recognise/see them - is there anything I can do to diagnose and fix this?
[16:15] <SuperEngineer> baldurk, if you find out please let me know - I tried & fai;led
[16:15] <baldurk> boo :(
[16:15] <SuperEngineer> ^failed
[16:15] <TJ-> baldurk: "pastebinit /etc/X11/org.conf"
[16:16] <TJ-> baldurk: I run 6 monitors over 4 GPUs in 4 X sessions, with KDE, without problems.
[16:16] <TJ-> s/4 GPUs/3 GPUs/
[16:16] <baldurk> http://pastebin.com/nSTj8C37
[16:16] <rebs> do you always need 1 x sesion per gpu?
[16:17] <spinza> TJ-: wow
[16:17] <bekks> rebs: no.
[16:17] <spinza> TJ-: what do you do with that?
[16:17] <rebs> x sessions the next thing i gotta learn about in linux :\
[16:17] <rebs> seems kinda daunting
[16:18] <TJ-> baldurk: OK, I suspect you have a Unity issue - you've configured for 3 separate X screens.
[16:19] <TJ-> baldurk: I found Unity is unusable with multiple monitors/X screens, but KDE4 handles it without too many issues.
[16:19] <baldurk> interesting
[16:19] <baldurk> let me try switching to fluxbox and see if that works, I was going to do that anyway
[16:21] <justintv90> My 15.04 unity launcher stop transparenting and there isnt cube 3d in my compiz setting, what happens, please help me ?
[16:22] <justintv90> I change transparent level in my unity tweak but nothing happened
[16:24] <levo> Can I detach usb on a live session booted from that usb?
[16:24] <levo> After boot
[16:25] <zykotick9> levo: not if you want it to keep working...
[16:25] <levo> Ok. I thought it all gets copied into RAM
[16:36] <sunnydevil> Hello~
[16:37] <rukhazon> Hello
[16:41] <rukhazon> My Ubuntu does not achieve boot
[16:42] <rukhazon> There is no error in /var/log/boot.log
[16:42] <rukhazon> Wich can be read here : http://pastebin.com/cWDiL7x6
[16:45] <Mia> Okay back to the same issue I've asked you a few times before today: I made a full installation of ubuntu to a usb stick - but it was not accessible through windows. Since I also want to use a part of usb stick within windows, I've used gparted to creae a fat32 partition in the usb stick. Now my ubuntu works, and I have my prtition. However when I put the usb stick it does not show me the fat32 partition in
[16:45] <Mia> my computer
[16:45] <Mia> do I have to do anything special for this to work
[16:46] <rukhazon> Mia : Windows recognize only the first partition on a usb key (or a memory card)
[16:47] <rukhazon> So, the fat32 partition have to be the first in the partiton table
[16:47] <Mia> rukhazon, how can I make the free partition, the first, via gparted then ?
[16:47] <Mia> O_O
[16:47] <Mia> I think that woudl be a proper question
[16:48] <Sonex> Using command sudo apt-get how to check what version of software it will be before I can install?
[16:48] <Sonex> eg: sudo apt-get install nodejs
[16:48] <Sonex> But I want to know version first.
[16:50] <rukhazon> Mia, the free partition isn't the first one ?
[16:50] <Mia> rukhazon, no :/
[16:50] <Mia> I mean I just divided the parttion and created another one in the freed up space -- and it kept the linucx partition as first
[16:50] <Mia> so yeah
[16:50] <Voyage> Hi
[16:51] <ioria> Sonex, apt-cache policy nodejs
[16:51] <Mia> rukhazon, http://i.imgur.com/Nt4tMnx.png this is the current situation
[16:51] <justintv90> My 15.04 unity launcher stop transparenting and there isnt cube 3d in my compiz setting, what happens, please help me ?
[16:51] <justintv90> I change transparent level in my unity tweak but nothing happened
[16:51] <Voyage> I just changed my pc but using same hdd and kubuntu installation in it. The board, processor etc are changed. All seems working fine but do I need to do anything?
[16:51] <ioria> justintv90, in unity-tweak-tool ?
[16:52] <OerHeks> Voyage, you tell us?
[16:52] <justintv90> yes unity tweak tool, ccsm also
[16:53] <ren0v0>  hi, when partitioning a disk, is it possible to control partition numbers? im trying to create a new partition and its calling it #5 ?
[16:54] <ioria> justintv90, really don't know ... but you can try to disable background blur in 'Search' and try again to set transparency in Panel Tab
[16:55] <Voyage> OerHeks,  I mean, do I need to change any software or install or re install kubuntu?
[16:56] <rukhazon> Mia, ok, you should remove the fat32 partition (backup first if needed)
[16:56] <Mia> ok removed, no backup needed
[16:56] <rukhazon> Then unmount sda1
[16:56] <Mia> now I have a lot of unallocated space
[16:56] <Mia> Oh
[16:56] <OerHeks> Voyage, most times not, problems occur with different videodrivers.
[16:56] <rukhazon> In gparted click on sda1 and use "Resize/Move" button
[16:57] <OerHeks> I would do a fresh install with new hardware.
[16:57] <Mia> okay I'll do that rukhazon -- thnaks!
[16:57] <misho_> Hi,everyone...is there an app for Linux similar to the Windows Device Manager?
[16:57] <Mia> Thank you very much for all the help you've given today
[16:57] <Mia> it was very, very enlightning for me, this is a new era in my computer life :)
[16:59] <rukhazon> Mia, create fat32 partition with gaprted, not in Windows
[17:00] <Mia> rukhazon, yes yes, I'll do so :)
[17:00] <misho_> !ask
[17:00] <misho_> !ubuntu
[17:01] <misho_> Hi,everyone...is there an app for Linux similar to the Windows Device Manager?
[17:01] <tgm4883> misho_: what do you mean
[17:02] <Mia> rukhazon, hmmm one issue --- how do I "unmount" it
[17:02] <Mia> I don't see any selection as unmount anywhere
[17:02] <misho_> Do you know how it looks Device Manager?
[17:02] <tgm4883> misho_: yes
[17:02] <justintv90> ioria: check my screenshot please http://i.imgur.com/QPcxNoQ.jpg
[17:02] <justintv90> http://i.imgur.com/QPcxNoQ.jpg << My launcher transparent is broken, please help
[17:02] <misho_> That is what i ask...im searching for similar app in Linux
[17:03] <OerHeks> !info hardinfo
[17:03] <rukhazon> Mia, right-click -> Unmount (I gess it is this text, I use French interface)
[17:03] <Mia> hmmm none on my interface
[17:03] <tgm4883> misho_: in looks, or functionality?
[17:03] <serverboy> misho , to my knowledge, there is no GUI program like device manager of windows. try using cli
[17:03] <Mia> there is just mount -- which is blurred out rukhazon
[17:04] <misho_> tgm4883, what do you mean?
[17:04] <Gallomimia> misho_: there's a few different tools on the commmand line to check devices. it depends what you're looking for
[17:04] <OerHeks> !info sysinfo
[17:04] <tgm4883> misho_: well, for one, installing drivers are pretty different in linux than windows
[17:04] <misho_> Gallomimia, im searching for GUI app for Device manager
[17:04] <rukhazon> you can use the Terminal app (on the desk) and type unmount /dev/sda1
[17:04] <kadiro> misho_: look in what Mr OerHeks suggess for you
[17:04] <Gallomimia> misho_: it sounds like OerHeks just suggested a GUI one you can use
[17:05] <misho_> tgm4883, no i want to see graphically a list of running device in my PC
[17:05] <OerHeks> misho_, those 2 tools are. you never took a look at those, did you?
[17:05] <justintv90> http://i.imgur.com/QPcxNoQ.jpg << My launcher transparent on Ubuntu Unity 15.04 is broken, please help
[17:05] <biledemon> Hi. I will buy a new laptop soon. I want to make sure I don't buy anything with Broadcom in it. Unfortunately I can't find information about the models I'm looking at. Are there any particular brands that are known to often use Broadcom wifi? I will use Ubuntu o it.
[17:05] <Mia> rukhazon, it says command not found
[17:06] <misho_> !info sysinfo
[17:06] <Gallomimia> biledemon: uh.... like. all of them?
[17:06] <OerHeks> no need to repeat, misho_
[17:06]  * kadiro O_o
[17:06] <samsul> linfo pcsx
[17:07] <biledemon> Gallomimia: Some use Intel wifi I think and that works out of the box
[17:07] <Gallomimia> oh that's good! i'd never heard of any others actually
[17:07] <samsul> !info pcsx
[17:07] <b_> hi guys. i need some software that will allow me to 'burn' a random .iso file on a usb drive. any ideas?
[17:07] <OerHeks> biledemon, we don't have such list, the vendor should provide that info
[17:07] <justintv90> http://i.imgur.com/QPcxNoQ.jpg << My launcher transparent on Ubuntu Unity 15.04 is broken, please help
[17:08] <samsul> !help
[17:08] <samsul> Yes
[17:08] <Gallomimia> b_ i think that's well covered on making USB images for ubuntu
[17:08] <biledemon> Anyone know if Broadcom wifi works well out of the box on Ubuntu?
[17:08] <b_> Gallomimia, but i don't want to make a usb image of ubuntu specifically
[17:08] <b_> Gallomimia, will it still work
[17:08] <yoloswag420> !ops
[17:08] <yoloswag420> !ops
[17:08] <yoloswag420> !ops
[17:08] <yoloswag420> !ops
[17:09] <yoloswag420> !ops
[17:09] <Gallomimia> i think if you follow the directions it should
[17:09] <BotchlaB> biledemon: Google the specific model that interests you + ubuntu.
[17:09] <misho_> OerHeks, thanks for this program...although it is equall to SysInfo on Windows...what i'm looking for is Device Manager
[17:09] <lotuspsychje> biledemon: its reccomended to enable internet+updates during ubuntu setup to find best driver
[17:09] <BotchlaB> biledemon: See if people have reported it on forums as being problematic.
[17:09] <justintv90> !ops http://i.imgur.com/QPcxNoQ.jpg << My launcher transparent on Ubuntu Unity 15.04 is broken, please help
[17:10] <misho_> There must be a way to see a full list of devices connected to my PC
[17:10] <OerHeks> misho_, hardinfo.
[17:10] <vairon> hola
[17:10] <rukhazon> Mia, sorry I misstake this : gparted live cd doesn't auto-mount so it is OK
[17:10] <lotuspsychje> !es | vairon
[17:11] <Gallomimia> misho_: they told you there is. try it out and get back to us please.
[17:11] <ioria> justintv90, you changed the launcher color ?
[17:11] <Mia> rukhazon, oh... so what should I do in this case
[17:11] <vairon> hello
[17:11] <rukhazon> Mia, go to next step ;)
[17:11] <misho_> When i used Ubuntu 9.10 i found the same app with the name Device manager...but now it is not developing anymore
[17:12] <Gallomimia> misho_: !!!! go use the program you were told about.
[17:12] <Gallomimia> maybe you need help installing it?
[17:12] <Mia> rukhazon, :/ what's the next step --- how do I rename sda1 to something else and make the fat32 partition, partition1
[17:12] <misho_> Gallomimia, ok hold on
[17:13] <akik> misho_: i wonder if you saw the program hardinfo mentioned
[17:13] <kadiro> misho_: why not just installing hardinfo and trying it?
[17:14] <rukhazon> Mia, I assume that fat32 partiton is gone, click on sda1 then "Resize/Move" button
[17:14] <misho_> Yes..thank you to everyone
[17:14] <justintv90> ioria: Nope, i didnt change background
[17:14] <rukhazon> Mia, Here, you can drag and drop sda1 to the  right
[17:14] <Mia> rukhazon -- hmm I don't see an option to do this
[17:15] <Mia> rukhazon, h wait I get what you mean
[17:16] <freakyfid> is mesa 11 available on ubuntu 14.04.3 ??
[17:18] <atl> hello
[17:30] <maximus> hello
[17:30] <AEL-H> Sorry for the basic question -- I am having problems finding an explanation. with grep something like grep -ir 'mytext' does not work, but grep -ir 'mytext' * does. What is going on here?
[17:30] <maximus> anyone in here?
[17:31] <Gallomimia> !ask
[17:31] <maximus> how can i get in to undernet ?
[17:32] <bekks> maximus: You are on the wrong chat network.
[17:32] <Gallomimia> use your client to connect to that network instead of freenode. usually /connect
[17:32] <maximus> how can i change the chat network
[17:32] <Gallomimia> every chat client is different friend. you'll have to find out.
[17:33] <OerHeks> AEL-H, the usage is grep -rl "string" /path   # so * is your current path position.
[17:34] <AEL-H> OerHeks : Is the use of * to denote path position something common or just an intricacy of grep?
[17:35] <adam11111111> hi
[17:35] <OerHeks> AEL-H, it is made up by the one who wrote your line. it can be "." or "/" and also empty too, same as *
[17:39] <linocisco> ikonia, i am now with free 250GB space and running ubuntu server installer
[17:39] <linocisco> ikonia, sorry
[17:40] <linocisco> hi
[17:40] <linocisco> https://www.centos.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=2932&sid=bc3bdda5c4cbb8bc4d4c7144e290f5dc
[17:40] <linocisco> i want to edit grub and put nomodeset
[17:40] <linocisco> where to find? i can't find that line under grub.cfg and grub.d
[17:41] <bekks> linocisco: /etc/default/grub
[17:43] <RedBlue> When I use the command checkinstall does it just make the deb for me to install later or does it also install the package?
[17:43] <linocisco> bekks, no such file
[17:43] <justintv90> I fixed it, aoria . The problem is oiblaf graphic driver
[17:43] <kadiro> hello, my brother computer is old with only 256M RAM, I tryed on it lubuntu because many persons suggess it for me, but when trying it i can't install it and it hang, for information I installed on it both windows XP and puppy linux, so Is there any light ubuntu work on it?
[17:43] <justintv90> ubuntu minimal + xfce
[17:43] <bekks> linocisco: Are you using Centos?
[17:44] <linocisco> bekka
[17:44] <linocisco> bekks, ubuntu-server 14.04
[17:44] <kadiro> justin_jnf: this for me?
[17:44] <justintv90> yes
[17:44] <kadiro> justintv90:
[17:44] <lotuspsychje> kadiro: lubuntu should work on 256 ram
[17:44] <linocisco> bekks, i have fixed like that before. now I can't find desired file
[17:45] <kadiro> justintv90: where to fount this minimal ubuntu?
[17:45] <lotuspsychje> !minimal | kadiro
[17:45] <kadiro> lotuspsychje: I tryed it but it fail
[17:45] <bekks> linocisco: Then you are not using grub2.
[17:45] <justintv90> google, please yes ubot said it
[17:45] <linocisco> bekks, how can I know if I am using grub2
[17:45] <linocisco> ?
[17:46] <lotuspsychje> kadiro: any errors on lubuntu install freeze?
[17:46] <kadiro> lotuspsychje: Is there any minimal linux prepared because the second problem is the internet is very slow
[17:47] <linocisco> bekks, anyway, there should be similar file and similar line
[17:47] <lotuspsychje> kadiro: you can also try a xubuntu, on some machines it might perform better
[17:47] <kadiro> lotuspsychje: take a long time when booting it ( from usb or cd ) and the desktop not fully showing ( in many try )
[17:48] <lotuspsychje> kadiro: what kinf od graphics card does your system have?
[17:49] <freakyfid> anyone know if  intel drivers from PPA https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/ works on 14.04.3 ???
[17:49] <kadiro> integrated intel 82915G lotuspsychje
[17:49] <kadiro> the pc of my brother is an HP Compaq dx6100
[17:50] <Gallomimia> freakyfid: i should think so. i use the nvidia drivers from there
[17:50] <lotuspsychje> kadiro: try a minimal as justin_jnf suggested or a xubuntu
[17:51] <kadiro> ok thank you lotuspsychje and justin_jnf , i will search for an xubuntu with minimal
[17:51] <bekks> linocisco: So tell us which bootloader you are using.
[17:51] <linocisco> bekks, how to check?
[17:51] <bekks> linocisco: Check your package manager which bootloader is installed.
[17:52] <linocisco> bekks, i dont know how to check package manager
[17:54] <jesus_> list
[18:17] <justatech>  i have a problem with apt-get update whenever i type this command i have segment faul problem what should i do
[18:17] <Gallomimia> maybe you should preface the command with sudo ?
[18:17] <Gallomimia> not using sudo usually gives an error, not a seg fault.
[18:18] <justatech> i did Gallomimia..
[18:18] <Gallomimia> hm...
[18:19] <linocisco> hi . how to remove or disable unused installed package like virutal machine host and tomcat java server
[18:19] <linocisco> ?
[18:19] <Gallomimia> justatech: a quick google points to the idea that it might be low memory. sound reasonable?
[18:19] <bekks> linocisco: using apt-get
[18:19] <x4Dx5A> linocisco: open your package manager, search for the package, and remove it
[18:20] <linocisco> tasksel is still usable command. thanks it is fixed
[18:20] <Gallomimia> justatech http://askubuntu.com/questions/532200/14-04-lts-apt-get-segfault lots of speculation on this thread.
[18:20] <bekks> linocisco: tasksel will not remove packages.
[18:20] <bekks> It will instal package groups.
[18:20] <pride> hi
[18:20] <linocisco> bekks, run tasksel first and uncheck wont remove?
[18:20] <x4Dx5A> linocisco: use something like synaptic or apt-get remove
[18:21] <linocisco> i m on server
[18:21] <bekks> linocisco: what did I just tell you?
[18:21] <linocisco> bekks, to use apt-get remove " ", I need to know exact package name that I dont know for each
[18:22] <bekks> linocisco: Yeah, so use dpkg -l to see the list of installed packages. OR use your package manager ...
[18:22] <x4Dx5A> linocisco: so... use your package manager (e.g. synaptic)
[18:22] <justatech> i tryed everything still it is there Gallomimia
[18:22] <linocisco> bekks, what is the package manager on server? how to run by command line?
[18:22] <bekks> linocisco: apt-get and dpkg
[18:23] <Gallomimia> justatech: im sorry i don't have any other ideas. i hope someone more knowledgable than me will suggest something
[18:24] <ioria> justatech, check your sources.list maybe
[18:24] <justatech> ioria to see what
[18:25] <ioria> justatech, do you add repos or ppa ?
[18:25] <ioria> *did
[18:25] <justatech> ioria i don't know how to add it
[18:26] <ioria> justatech, you can post it ?
[18:27] <justatech> i have apt-get update and apt-get upgrade error it is showing segmentation fault reading packages done period
[18:28] <ioria> justatech,  cat /etc/apt/sources.list    and post it on paste.ubuntu.com
[18:32] <mmm_> ciao
[18:32] <justatech> ioria http://termbin.com/uxju
[18:32] <mmm_> kernel panic per me
[18:33] <mmm_> il pc ora pare non avviarsi più
[18:33] <Gallomimia> heh. that's an interesting sources list. all commented out. sounds like the segfault comes when the update command tries to dereference a pointer to an empty array
[18:33] <ioria> justatech,  i think you are not ubuntu ... or i'm wrong ?
[18:33] <mmm_> ok
[18:33] <mmm_> ops
[18:34] <justatech> ya but it is debian
[18:34] <ioria> justatech,  it'a all there ?
[18:34] <Gallomimia> !es | mmm_ (is it spanish or italian you are speaking)
[18:34] <bekks> justatech: Its kali linux, more likely.
[18:34] <Gallomimia> it's not-ubuntu anyway
[18:35] <Gallomimia> justatech: my sources list for ubuntu is some 60 lines long
[18:35] <justatech> yeah but it is debian can
[18:35] <bekks> justatech: It's not Ubuntu.
[18:35] <Gallomimia> !ot
[18:35] <justatech> ya it is not ubuntu can i get help
[18:35] <ioria> justatech,  take a look at mine http://paste.ubuntu.com/12153781/
[18:35] <Gallomimia> no. try #debian ?
[18:36] <bekks> !klai | justatech
[18:36] <bekks> !kali | justatech
[18:36] <justatech> can anyone cannot figure what this proble maybe plz
[18:37] <bekks> justatech: Ask the kali support. You are not using Ubuntu.
[18:37] <ioria> justatech,  in any case , i don't even understand how an all-commented list could work ...
[18:38] <Gallomimia> justatech: i spot two problems. there's no sources listed in your sources files, and they're said to be commented out because they did not verify. that's bad.
[18:39] <justatech> Gallomimia if that's the problem where should I get the source list
[18:39] <Gallomimia> from #kail
[18:39] <bekks> justatech: Ask the kali support.
[18:39] <DJones> justatech: As we're not using your operating system, you should ask its own supprt networks
[18:40] <justatech> no feedback from them
[18:40] <bekks> justatech: Not our problem.
[18:40] <OerHeks> justatech, a 'snapshot' likely has updates disabled.
[18:40] <justatech> bekks a pointer may solve thisproblem
[18:41] <bekks> justatech: Wegave you all pointers available.
[18:41] <justatech> DerHeks is it possible to enable it
[18:41] <DJones> justatech: Thats the problem using an unsupprted operating system, if you install Ubuntu and can replicate the issue, please feel free to ask for support
[18:41] <jeffreylevesque> can someone explain to me - http://stackoverflow.com/questions/28119333/upstart-task-hangs-after-it-finishes-successfully#answer-28231340
[18:41] <jeffreylevesque> I'm trying to understand what `tasks` are used for
[18:41] <jeffreylevesque> *task
[18:41] <OerHeks> i give general info, check their site. no support here.
[18:55] <freakyfid> well everything broke :-(
[18:55] <freakyfid> fucken intel hardware and drivers
[18:56] <Gallomimia> lol... do watch your language please. sorry to hear that
[18:57] <freakyfid> sorry, just really frustrating
[18:58] <freakyfid> so while installing xorg-edgers it somehow removed the synaptics driver for the mouse...
[18:59] <freakyfid> s/mouse/trackpoint
[19:01] <ioria> !info xserver-xorg-input-synaptics
[19:01] <freakyfid> thats the one
[19:01] <freakyfid> thanks ioria
[19:03] <afroking> hello. what do U call the command line to get into linux partition from a live cd/usb?
[19:04] <bekks> afroking: What do you mean by "get into partition"?
[19:04] <freakyfid> okay intel is officially busted, with an 2520m, HD 3000 and pstate enabled, Fullscreen video becomes unplayable after a few moments. the only time it doesn't crap out is with Trusty Hardware Stack, anything newer is terrible
[19:04] <ioria> sudo parted -l ?
[19:05] <freakyfid> could anyone please help log this problem and help me report it ?
[19:05] <afroking> bekks: I have installed win 10, and already have ubuntu on another partition. I m running a live Ubuntu so that I can get into that Ubuntu partition and update grub2
[19:05] <frenda> Hello
[19:05] <frenda> $ echo 20 > /sys/fs/fuse/connections/40/max_background  --> Why it does not need to be root?!
[19:06] <bekks> afroking: Then you have to mount it, chroot it, and update grub.
[19:06] <afroking> bekks: chroot, thats the one I was looking for :)
[19:06] <afroking> bekks: thx
[19:07] <ioria> afroking, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing
[19:08] <OerHeks> !bug | freakyfid
[19:09] <freakyfid> OerHeks, thats the thing i don't know what's causing it
[19:09] <freakyfid> is it vaapi or mesa or kernel(pstate) or something else entirely
[19:10] <frenda> Today, in linux lab course, our teacher run this command:
[19:10] <frenda> echo 20 > /sys/fs/fuse/connections/40/max_background
[19:10] <frenda> Why it does not need to be root?
[19:10] <frenda> I test it there myself, we could be able to do that by $, no need to #
[19:11] <akik> fuse = filesystem in userspace, maybe because of that
[19:11] <lotuspsychje> freakyfid: investigate your syslog and dmesg
[19:11] <OerHeks> freakyfid, it is against packages from that ppa, which b.t.w. is not really supported here.
[19:12] <freakyfid> OerHeks, it happens with vivid and utopic HWS on 14.04 aswell
[19:12] <freakyfid> itried the ppa hoping it was fixed
[19:14] <ioria> frenda, if you run ls -l you'll find out that the files are owned by the user
[19:15] <frenda> ioria, Is it secure to have a file somewhere in /sys that is belong to user?!
[19:16] <bekks> frenda: Nope, since /sys is destroyed upon shutdown.
[19:16] <ioria> frenda, depends ... check /tmp for example
[19:16] <jeffreylevesque> could someone interpret this for me: Without the 'task' keyword, the events that cause the job to start will be unblocked as soon as the job is started. This means the job has emitted a starting(7) event, run its pre-start, begun its script/exec, and post-start, and emitted its started(7) event.
[19:16] <jeffreylevesque> in terms of upstart scripts
[19:17] <jeffreylevesque> what's the significance of blocking jobs, relative to the init script?
[19:17] <akik> frenda: Only the owner of the mount may read or write these files. http://fuse.sourceforge.net/doxygen/
[19:17] <jeffreylevesque> how does it make the script last longer, or shorter?
[19:18] <ioria> frenda, usually is that because the user need to write or read from them
[19:18] <ioria> *s
[19:19] <frenda> ioria, it's ~clear, now; thank you
[19:19] <ioria> frenda, np
[19:20] <icecube45> Anyone mind helping me solve a difficult problem? Trying to install ubuntu 14.04 on a RAID 1 4TB drive, it installs correct, but I get "no boot device available", If I use grub from a different disk,i can boot from the disk successfully, I've tried boot-repair to fix the grub on the disk, yet the same thing happened after a reboot, i currently have
[19:20] <icecube45>  a licecd with boot-repair loaded
[19:20] <l4rry> join ##java
[19:21] <WACOMalt> Hi folks. I'm having issues getting a smb share mounted where I can write to it. The share is from a windows machine with permissions set to everyone full access
[19:21] <icecube45> livecd*
[19:21] <lotuspsychje> !samba | WACOMalt
[19:21] <lotuspsychje> WACOMalt: you can also try #samba
[19:21] <rsx> join /#python
[19:22] <ioria> WACOMalt, maybe paste your smb.conf
[19:22] <rsx> ups ... typo ... sorry
[19:22] <lotuspsychje> whats the most popular way to sync iphone/ipod music with ubuntu?
[19:22] <CosmicNoise> lotuspsychje, RhythmBox and Banshee support iPods very well.
[19:22] <MonkeyDust> !iphone
[19:22] <lotuspsychje> CosmicNoise: tnx
[19:22] <CosmicNoise> CosmicNoise, I'm not sure about iPhone.
[19:23] <CosmicNoise> !RockBox
[19:23] <CosmicNoise> Never heard of that... interesting.
[19:23] <lotuspsychje> MonkeyDust: great cool!
[19:23] <akik> ioria: WACOMalt is mounting from a windows box
[19:23] <ioria> oh..
[19:24] <WACOMalt> On Ubuntu my fstab is this: http://pastebin.com/G6wcni4f
[19:24] <lotuspsychje> CosmicNoise: this would replace itunes?
[19:24] <akik> WACOMalt: have you tried accessing the share with smbclient?
[19:24] <CosmicNoise> lotuspsychje, yes
[19:24] <lotuspsychje> CosmicNoise: tnx for the hint mate!
[19:24] <CosmicNoise> lotuspsychje, I personally use RhythmBox.
[19:24] <ioria> WACOMalt, you cannot write on the win share ?
[19:24] <WACOMalt> And here's the permissions on the folder http://paste.ubuntu.com/12155404/
[19:25] <WACOMalt> correct
[19:25] <WACOMalt> akik, I have not. dont know how
[19:25] <WACOMalt> Also I'm not sure why I had to put in my user/pass for it to work. (in fstab) it should be open to all
[19:25] <WACOMalt> I tried chmod 777 /media/WACOSynth which didnt work
[19:25] <WACOMalt> even as sude it said permission denied
[19:25] <WACOMalt> *sudo
[19:25] <akik> WACOMalt: smbclient //server/share -U username
[19:26] <ioria> WACOMalt, could be a win issue ...
[19:26] <WACOMalt> akik, that works
[19:26] <akik> WACOMalt: actually i have a doc for cifs mounting from a samba server with systemd if you are interested
[19:26] <WACOMalt> if I type in my user and pass from windows
[19:26] <ioria> WACOMalt, i use the the default Public ... on win7 no problem ...
[19:27] <Bashing-om> icecube45: Grub install depends on the raid level . see: ->
[19:27] <WACOMalt> sure akik cant hurt
[19:27] <Bashing-om> !raid | icecube45
[19:27] <WACOMalt> ioria, that wont work for me. I need to have it where it is
[19:27] <ioria> WACOMalt, where ?
[19:27] <akik> WACOMalt: https://atkdinosaurus.wordpress.com/2015/08/19/how-to-mount-a-cifs-directory-with-systemd/
[19:27] <WACOMalt> on windows its o:/WACOPiano
[19:27] <ioria> !info mount-cifs
[19:27] <WACOMalt> network is //192.168.1.10/WACOPiano
[19:27] <ioria> !info cifs-utils
[19:28] <WACOMalt> I'm already mounting with cifs
[19:28] <ioria> WACOMalt, but it's better the gui ...
[19:28] <akik> WACOMalt: you can put your credentials into a file and refer to it
[19:28] <WACOMalt> yeah I'm doing gui because that doesnt mount in a way all applications can find
[19:28] <WACOMalt> *not doing gui
[19:28] <WACOMalt> I shouldnt need credentials
[19:28] <ioria> WACOMalt,  where is your share on win ?
[19:29] <WACOMalt> already said
[19:29] <ioria> sorry
[19:29] <WACOMalt> o:/WACOPiano
[19:29] <WACOMalt> er sorry WACOSynth
[19:30] <akik> WACOMalt: i think you need to tell the protocol at least the username which you want to use
[19:30] <icecube45> Bashing-om:this is hardware raid
[19:30] <WACOMalt> yes, and "guest" is supposed to work
[19:30] <WACOMalt> if its set to Everyone full access
[19:30] <WACOMalt> but it doesnt
[19:30] <icecube45> Bashing-om:do I need a special grub for that?
[19:31] <WACOMalt> also, why can I not /sudo chmod 777 /media/WACOSynth?
[19:31] <WACOMalt> it says permission denied
[19:31] <WACOMalt> I'm sudo!
[19:31] <ioria> WACOMalt,  i have just added a share outside Public and it works ...
[19:31] <tgm4883> WACOMalt: so?
[19:31] <macskay> hi guys i'm just trying to setup a user's home directory. The user is the owner of the directory but when i "sudo su <username" into it i can't create a file "Permission denied". Why is that happening?
[19:31] <WACOMalt> what are you permissions and ownership set to on windows
[19:32] <WACOMalt> ?
[19:32] <ioria> WACOMalt,  did you select 'you user' in share ?
[19:32] <icecube45> Bashing-om:i have the log from boot-repair if you want it
[19:32] <WACOMalt> no
[19:32] <WACOMalt> I shared to "Everyone"
[19:32] <WACOMalt> literally thats the name you use
[19:33] <Bashing-om> icecube45: I "think" with hardware raid and most levels, grub must be installed to all hard drives on partition outside of the raid array . It has been too long since I set up raid .
[19:33] <ioria> WACOMalt,  it works too .... (mumbling)
[19:33] <icecube45> Bashing-om:I have no hdds outside the array
[19:33] <WACOMalt> oohhh It looks like I have to have the guest user account enabled on windows to do this
[19:33] <Guest30375> how to open game for linux
[19:33] <WACOMalt> to do it with no user priviledges
[19:33] <WACOMalt> Guest30375, which game? O_o
[19:34] <Gallomimia> Guest30375: do you have something specific in mind, or do you just want "GAME" ?
[19:34] <ioria> WACOMalt,  and select read/write
[19:34] <lotuspsychje> !info playonlinux | Guest30375
[19:34] <macskay> nvm ...
[19:34] <macskay> found it
[19:34] <Guest30375> how use play on linux
[19:34] <WACOMalt> http://serverfault.com/a/118645
[19:34] <WACOMalt> iooner, it is
[19:35] <Gallomimia> Guest30375: is english your first language? there's other channels which might speak your language..
[19:35] <lotuspsychje> Guest30375: install playonlinux and install your game
[19:35] <lotuspsychje> Guest30375: depending wich game as said above
[19:35] <Guest30375> need wine
[19:35] <ioria> WACOMalt,  mmm... i don't need that ... (mumbling agin)
[19:35] <Gallomimia> install wine1.7 package and go from there. #winehq best to ask for help
[19:36] <WACOMalt> I... dont get your mumbling...
[19:36] <ioria> WACOMalt,  you should be able to share what you want read/write from your win
[19:36] <Bashing-om> icecube45: I do not feel that I am qualified to offer additional advise than offered.
[19:37] <WACOMalt> ioria, yes, I get that
[19:37] <WACOMalt> but.. its not working.  Its shared, has Everyone and "ANONYMOUS LOGIN" with full access, owner is set o "Everyone"
[19:38] <Gallomimia> Guest30375: i suggest you ask your question more concisely. more details. write a few sentences if you have to. keep them all in one line
[19:38] <akik> WACOMalt: check if you have other choices for sec=
[19:38] <ioria> WACOMalt,  take a look in network and Sharing Center then
[19:38] <kaldl> Anyone here who can help with creating a .deb package from source code? I can compile it from source, and use it as intended, but I need a .deb package of it. Tried it with checkinstall and alien, but couldn't make it work properly. (The specific code is: https://github.com/openstreetmap/mod_tile )
[19:38] <Guest30375> i have wine 1.6
[19:38] <Guest30375> how get wine 1.7
[19:38] <WACOMalt> ioria, what.. just look at every single thing in there?
[19:39] <WACOMalt> anonymous sharing is working fine from other windows boxes without logging in.
[19:39] <icecube45> Bashing-om:darn
[19:39] <Gallomimia> Guest30375: apt-get install wine1.7
[19:39] <WACOMalt> 90% sure the folder is set up correctly
[19:39] <Gallomimia> Guest30375: i might also suggest you remove the wine 1.6 first
[19:39] <WACOMalt> the fact that I cant change the mountpoint's permissions on linux is very odd and I think the root of the issue
[19:39] <Guest30375> ok
[19:39] <akik> WACOMalt: did you check https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently ?
[19:40] <Bashing-om> icecube45: Others frequenct here on the channel who do have harsware raid experience. Await and ask again .
[19:40] <Gallomimia> i think it's mount options at that point
[19:40] <WACOMalt> akik, thats what I followed to set up the linux side
[19:40] <icecube45> Bashing-om:y yea..
[19:41] <AldenIsZen> Hello
[19:41] <akik> WACOMalt: it mentions using "username=guest,password="
[19:41] <Guest30375> my not find wine 1.7 for synaptic package manager
[19:41] <WACOMalt> I just saw that. I'd tried it before but now it may work after going through windows side again
[19:42] <lotuspsychje> !info wine | Guest30375
[19:42] <MonkeyDust> Guest30375  what's the outcome of   cat /etc/issue
[19:42] <Guest30375> ok
[19:42] <vivid> !info wine1.7
[19:43] <Gallomimia> yes. tell us what /etc/issue says
[19:43] <BluesKaj> !wine
[19:44] <lotuspsychje> latest wine needs ppa add i think
[19:44] <sisccl> : hey guys.  I accidenlty uploaded a folder named folder\ am unable to access it in ftp or the shell.  I just know the name has a \  at the end because of ‘ls -1b’, it doesn’t appear when doing a normal ls.  Any way to do a mv on it to change the name to no longer contain that \?
[19:45] <akik> sisccl: $ mv -- folder\\ folder
[19:45] <Gallomimia> in the shell use a double backslash to address that file
[19:45] <Gallomimia> or quotes. or tab-completion
[19:45] <drkjstr> akik, you beat me too it. =]
[19:46] <akik> it's not a game :)
[19:46] <afroking> hello. having a small issue with updategrub, chroot in my live usb drive. I chroot the partition ok, then when I run update-grub2 I get this message "/usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for / (is /dev mounted?)."
[19:46] <Gallomimia> it's a nice exercise at speed and concise-ness tho :)
[19:46] <bekks> afroking: Did you mount /dev before chrooting?
[19:47] <sisccl> it says cannot stat, but I know the folder exists there and Im doing this as root D:
[19:47] <afroking> bekks: no. it wasn't part of the instructions. How do I do that?
[19:48] <bekks> afroking: Which instructions did you follow?
[19:48] <afroking> the ones U gave me
[19:48] <afroking> bekks: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing
[19:48] <sisccl> the \\'s don’t cancel, it parses it as folder\\ still and says the folder doesn’t exist D:
[19:49] <bekks> afroking: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#via_ChRoot clearly states to mount /dev before chrooting.
[19:49] <kalimocho> any know how to move dash buto on the top bar on ubuntu 14.04.3?????
[19:49] <MonkeyDust> kalimocho  you can't
[19:49] <kalimocho> why
[19:49] <kalimocho> ????
[19:49] <OerHeks> kalimocho, it is hardcoded, no movement possible.
[19:49] <wileee> afroking, Updating a kernel on a live is a bad idea.
[19:50] <MonkeyDust> kalimocho  because the dev decided that way
[19:50] <kalimocho> ok
[19:50] <akik> sisccl: maybe use some tool like mc to rename it
[19:50] <MonkeyDust> devs*
[19:50] <kalimocho> and another question
[19:50] <anon__> the best game for linux
[19:50] <kalimocho> when i enablde usb 2 on my bios
[19:50] <MonkeyDust> anon__  the game you like most, that's the best
[19:50] <sisccl> akik: Would that require direct access to server?  I only have ssh and ftp access
[19:50] <tsimonq2> .
[19:50] <kalimocho> ubuntu no restar or shutown
[19:50] <akik> sisccl: mc works in the ssh session also
[19:51] <kalimocho> if i disabled al work great
[19:51] <sisccl> akik: thanks, Ill look into it
[19:51] <akik> i think it was ls -albF which you can use to see the special chars
[19:51] <sisccl> akik: is MC Midnight Commander?
[19:51] <akik> sisccl: yes
[19:51] <kalimocho> monkey
[19:52] <sisccl> akaik: Sweet, thanks
[19:52] <afroking> bekks: thx man. I guess I missed step 10 :)
[19:53] <kalimocho> moneydust
[19:53] <afroking> bekks: it seems to work, let me reboot and see
[19:53] <kalimocho> monkey
[19:53] <kalimocho> why when y enable usb 2 ubuntu no restart and no shut down an when i disbled al works????
[19:54] <scott606> Hey whats the best program to make a live usb of a windows xp black iso that i have .. from within ubuntu
[19:54] <scott606> cant get multiboot to work
[19:55] <OerHeks> live xp LoLz
[19:55] <scott606> well just for installing cause i dont have a dvd on hand
[19:55] <akik> scott606: try ddrescue
[19:56] <sckeedoo> Hello
[19:56] <akik> scott606: no warranties :)
[19:56] <scott606> it says ddescue os for recovering files from a drive .. i need to make a bootable usb stick lol
[19:57] <akik> scott606: well yes but you can write files with it to a usb memory
[19:57] <scott606> I see]
[19:57] <MonkeyDust> scott606  since when is xp live bootable?
[19:57] <akik> scott606: i'm not sure if the windows isos work the same way than linux isos
[19:57] <scott606> Well maybe im just using the wrong terms .. I have an iso of xp .. i need to maka an install usb
[19:58] <scott606> rather than a disk
[19:58] <Gallomimia> nope. that's understood
[19:58] <MonkeyDust> scott606  cannot be done with xp
[19:58] <scott606> oh
[19:58] <Gallomimia> i personally use dd to make USB sticks. i think it requires conversion for iso files
[19:58] <sisccl> HUZZAH!  Midnight commander did the trick!  You the best akik
[19:58] <Gallomimia> but dd is dangerous and can easily overwrite your hard drive
[19:59] <akik> sisccl: no problem
[20:00] <icecube45> Anyone mind helping me solve a difficult problem? Trying to install ubuntu 14.04 on a RAID 1 4TB drive, it installs correct, but I get "no boot device available", If I use grub from a different disk,i can boot from the disk successfully, I've tried boot-repair to fix the grub on the disk, yet the same thing happened after a reboot, i currently have
[20:00] <icecube45>  a licecd with boot-repair loaded
[20:00] <icecube45> livecd*
[20:01] <plytro> icecube45: is grub installed in the proper place on the raid array?
[20:01] <jack_> ...
[20:01] <AldenIsZen> Hello! Can I possibly get some assistance withgetting connected to the internet? I am running an ubuntu based distro called Trisquel. I can access the internet with a live CD, and I was was able to access with this install.
[20:01] <AldenIsZen> Something obviously isn't configured correctly.
[20:02] <MonkeyDust> icecube45  raid is server technology... is that a server? if yes, better ask in #ubuntu-server
[20:02] <tgm4883> !Trisquel
[20:02] <jack_> Running freya right now, anyone got any tips or tricks?
[20:02] <MonkeyDust> AldenIsZen  triquel is too different from ubuntu, it's not supported here
[20:04] <AldenIsZen> ok, ty. I think it's just a configuration issue, something any linux knowledgable person could probably help me track down.
[20:04] <plytro> MonkeyDust: raid is not a server technology
[20:04] <plytro> it just started there
[20:04] <MonkeyDust> AldenIsZen  ##linux for general linux questions
[20:04] <AldenIsZen> ty MonkeyDust
[20:05] <plytro> I haven't run a desktop without at least raid 1 in over 10 years
[20:07] <icecube45> plytro:as far as i know
[20:07] <icecube45> MonkeyDust:nah mate, desktop
[20:07] <AldenIsZen> plytro, I guess the advantage of that is that if you lose a hard disk you still are up and running?
[20:08] <plytro> yes
[20:08] <icecube45> plytro:where should it be intalled
[20:08] <icecube45> as far as i know it has been installed correctly
[20:09] <plytro> and if you do a raid 6(I think) a stripe of mirrors, you get better performance than a single disk alone
[20:09] <bekks> plytro: RAID6 with less than 4 disks is pretty - nonsense :)
[20:11] <Jeeves_Moss> how do I launch a screen session with a command running in that screen, then have that screen session die after the program is done running?
[20:11] <plytro> bekks: well of course
[20:11] <tgm4883>  Jeeves_Moss why would you want to do that?
[20:11] <plytro> bekks: I was unsure if 6 was a stripe of mirrors or a mirror of stripes
[20:11] <plytro> can't recall or be bothered to look now
[20:12] <bekks> plytro: RAID is neither a stripe of mirrors (which would be 01) nor a mirror of stripes (which is 10).
[20:12] <bekks> plytro: RAID6^
[20:12] <plytro> hence my (I think) after the number
[20:12] <Jeeves_Moss> plytro, RAID 6 is dual parity
[20:12] <plytro> ah there we go
[20:13] <tgm4883> anyway....
[20:13] <Jeeves_Moss> plytro, you can loose 2 disks and still limp along.  but do NOT replace both dead drives at the same time.  wait until the first drive is rebuilt.  (don't ask how I know that one)
[20:13] <akik> Jeeves_Moss: just tested and it's just "screen ftp" or "screen top". quit the program and screen dies too
[20:13] <MonkeyDust> Jeeves_Moss  use screen -m like    screen -m [command]
[20:13] <AldenIsZen> lol, well that sounds like overkill for me, to have 4 disks running just so I get better performance. It just ain't that serious at this point.
[20:14] <plytro> Jeeves_Moss: we had two drives in a 3 disk raid 5 die within 10 minues of each other
[20:14] <plytro> :(
[20:14] <bekks> plytro: Thats why RAID isnt a backup
[20:14] <AldenIsZen> plytro, tempature issue?
[20:14] <Jeeves_Moss> yea yea, thanks Dell tech support.
[20:15] <plytro> AldenIsZen: partial stupidity issue and just age
[20:15] <tgm4883> Also, proper drive rotation should fix that
[20:15] <plytro> this was about 15 years ago though
[20:15] <AldenIsZen> yea a lot has changed since then.
[20:15] <MonkeyDust> Jeeves_Moss  i use screen -m for my backup script
[20:15] <plytro> it was an external raid enclosure running with MacOS 8 or 9
[20:15] <Jeeves_Moss> plytro, it's only a Mac, no harm, no foul
[20:17] <plytro> tgm4883: drive rotation?????
[20:17] <plytro> we've played with fire far too long at my current employer
[20:18] <plytro> but we upgrade the prod servers every 5 years or so and rotate them down for QA environments
[20:18] <tgm4883> plytro: yea, fixes the age issue. But of course costs more. Starting with all new drives sounds like a good idea, but then they are all 5 years old at the same time
[20:18] <plytro> where failures are more acceptable
[20:19] <plytro> then the whole machine gets unracked and stuck in a pile 5 years after that
[20:19] <tgm4883> plytro: so the idea is to force a drive out after X amount of time and replace with a new drive
[20:20] <tgm4883> plytro: so you force 1 our every 6 months until all the drives are different ages
[20:20] <tgm4883> of course that means you need to have that many extra drives, which is more costly
[20:21] <plytro> tgm4883: oh I get what rotation is
[20:21] <tgm4883> plytro: or you could have raid 6 with hot spares. That would probably be fine too
[20:21] <plytro> the ???? was more the thought~ of suggesting it anywhere I've worked
[20:21] <tgm4883> ah
[20:21] <alber> hello guys im prety new with ubuntu and linux, i just intall ubuntu and im having problems with firefox and youtube, can anyone help me thx
[20:22] <lolcat> Hello
[20:22] <lolcat> How do I change my dns servers?
[20:23] <AEL-H> Say user X enters a screen session -- and then the root logs in as X and enters that same screen session -- they are in effect reading the same terminal and both can type and read that terminal.. I want to be able to do this even if user X is not in a screen session.. -- How can I interact with an existing pty session to achieve this?
[20:23] <MonkeyDust> lolcat  sudo -e /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/base ... nameserver x.x.x.x ... save ... sudo resolvconf -u
[20:23] <tgm4883> lolcat: I would suggest network manager before editing resolv.conf files directly
[20:23] <lolcat> MonkeyDust: what is the google DNS?
[20:24] <MonkeyDust> lolcat  8.8.8.8 or 8.8.4.4
[20:24] <alber> hello guys im prety new with ubuntu and linux, i just intall ubuntu and im having problems with firefox and youtube, can anyone help me, the youtube quality is always 320 and the youtube app dont let me go full screen pls some help thx
[20:24] <lolcat> didnt work adding with network manager
[20:25] <lolcat> no websites will load
[20:25] <AldenIsZen> alber, what happens when you try to fullscreen?
[20:25] <alber> nothing happens i click the button and nothing happens
[20:26] <tgm4883> lolcat: well then I'd say lets troubleshoot that first
[20:26] <AldenIsZen> I prefer my firefox, but have you tried a different browser by chance?
[20:26] <lolcat> tgm4883: well, I obviously have internet as I am chatting here
[20:26] <lolcat> DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_BAD_CONFIG
[20:26] <lolcat> is what chromium throws me
[20:26] <alber> yes chromium and work fine
[20:28] <lolcat> tgm4883: how?
[20:28] <alber> im using nvidia drivers could be that?
[20:28] <lolcat> is there a way to see what dns server I am using?
[20:28] <pthreat> Hi, im compiling a custom kernel for some old hardware, when I do make modules_install I get Can't read private key, how can I solve this
[20:29] <MonkeyDust> pthreat  try #ubuntu-kernel
[20:29] <tgm4883> lolcat: I thought you said you entered DNS settings?
[20:29] <lolcat> yes
[20:29] <tgm4883> that would indicate you know what DNS servers you are using?
[20:29] <lolcat> but I want to look at it trying to connect
[20:30] <lolcat> can I make dig be verbose?
[20:30] <wileee> alber, youtube resolution is on their end. so full secreen from button top right is not working?
[20:30] <wileee> or top left in ubuntu desktop
[20:31] <WACOMalt> OK, some progress has been made in my mounting windows shares issue. Finally was able to open the folder to linux and linux can (supposedly) write to it
[20:32] <WACOMalt> problem is, I made a test file text.txt on windows. I open it on linux, edit it, save. It saves correctly. But when opened again the change isnt there
[20:32] <alber> no not working, with firefox the fullscreen works but dont let me change quality, is always 320, with the youtube app i can change quality but dont let me go fullscreen, with chromium everything work fine
[20:36] <wileee> alber, Are you translating questions?
[20:37] <lolcat> it is still listing the routers dns servers in the config
[20:37] <wileee> alber, I just wonder if a channel in your native language might help, hard to follow your answer, and outline of issue.
[20:38] <Gamoder_> #ubuntu-es should exist
[20:40] <alber> ok... thx anyway
[20:40] <WACOMalt> nano is saying a file was modified after I opened it, but I know for a fact this isnt the case. When save, changes do not appear in the file despite it saying "wrote ## lines"
[20:41] <wileee> alber, You can only see a resolution offered by youtube, it is on their end, are you sure gthere is a higher resolution when you try?
[20:41] <wileee> there*
[20:42] <wileee> !restricted-extras
[20:42] <snoop_doge> hello all
[20:42] <wileee> !ubuntu-restricted-extras
[20:42] <wileee> alber, ^^^^^ look at bot info as well
[20:43] <WACOMalt> if an apt-get install freezes (in this case installing vim, its stuck on "Unpacking vim-runtime") is it safe to Ctl+C?
[20:43] <wileee> snoop_doge, Your early it's not 420 yet. ;)
[20:43] <snoop_doge> i just got a new  laptop and read that it is advised to update to kernal 4+ for my wifi to work. ow would I do that? and when?
[20:43] <snoop_doge> ya but im still blazed
[20:44] <salmonhatt> Greetings, fellow humans
[20:44] <snoop_doge> sup sal
[20:44] <MonkeyDust> salmonhatt i'm only a bot, please don't think i'm intelligent
[20:44] <salmonhatt> Looking for people's recommendations for music players.
[20:45] <wileee> snoop_doge, Do you have the wifi hardware info and link to that advice? lspci in terminal will identify the wifi
[20:45] <akik> WACOMalt: what if you copy a bigger file to the windows share, does it also become 0 size?
[20:45] <snoop_doge> ok
[20:45] <snoop_doge> its an asus x205ta
[20:45] <snoop_doge> thats all I know
[20:46] <snoop_doge> and installing mate
[20:46] <WACOMalt> akik, huh? nothing is becoming 0 size
[20:46] <WACOMalt> I can read the file, and it stays as it was. I just cant save a new file
[20:46] <WACOMalt> or any changes to the current file
[20:46] <WACOMalt> but it says it saves fine. no errorsz
[20:47] <snoop_doge> im going to try live mode before wiping windows from it
[20:47] <snoop_doge> see what worlks
[20:47] <snoop_doge> works
[20:47] <MonkeyDust> snoop_doge  that's what the leve session is for
[20:47] <MonkeyDust> live*
[20:47] <wileee> snoop_doge, Are you in a linux environment so we can know the wifi hardware, here we only support kernels in the ubuntu repos unless there is no other option, so we need to get there at the least.
[20:48] <snoop_doge> im downloading the mate iso now
[20:49] <wileee> cool boot it and check it out
[20:49] <salmonhatt> brb
[20:49] <akik> WACOMalt: did you try the other sec= option?
[20:50] <WACOMalt> ok I found out what sup... kinda
[20:50] <akik> WACOMalt: i can't help you with the windows side. been running a samba server for so long
[20:51] <akik> i have no windows servers either
[20:51] <WACOMalt> so the file in that folder is owned by "wacomalt:wacomalt" my user. And they are permissions 777
[20:51] <WACOMalt> but unless I edit and save as sudo, the file doesnt get updated
[20:52] <salmonhatt> So...does anyone have suggestions for a good music player? Or is that better served for a general chat channel
[20:52] <WACOMalt> depends what you want out of your music player
[20:52] <WACOMalt> I personally use clementine, but its not everyone's cup of tea
[20:52] <akik> WACOMalt: try sec=lanman
[20:53] <salmonhatt> I used to use MusicBee on Windows, and WinAmp before that
[20:53] <salmonhatt> if that gives you any idea of my tastes.
[20:53] <akik> salmonhatt: i use edna to serve my music to vlc
[20:53] <WACOMalt> akik, where do I put that?
[20:53] <akik> WACOMalt: fstab, where you had sec=ntlm
[20:53] <WACOMalt> oh
[20:53] <WACOMalt> what are the different options there? lanman and ntlm?
[20:54] <akik> WACOMalt: if you get it working, write a blog post :)
[20:54] <salmonhatt> I like VLC for video, not so much for audio.
[20:55] <wileee>  salmonhatt Not a support issue here, we call it polling, not allowed. ;)
[20:55] <WACOMalt> akik, once I change /etc/fstab how do I reload it
[20:55] <salmonhatt> My bad. What's the general chat channel?
[20:55] <WACOMalt> is a restart needed or can I do umount -a, then mount -a ?
[20:56] <wileee> salmonhatt, no idea, there is #ubuntu-offtopic might be okay there.
[20:56] <new_guest> hey guys, i'm sorry for my bad english. I have installed the x265 codec in ubuntu 14.04 but it freezes my system so i have
[20:56] <akik> WACOMalt: yes umount & mount works
[20:56] <WACOMalt> thanks
[20:56] <akik> WACOMalt: there's also sec=ntlmv2 option
[20:57] <perebor> Hi, I'm trying to share the wifi connection from my laptop with my desktop through an ethernet connection. Askubuntu answers suggest that I can do that through NetworkManager but nothing is working
[20:57] <catalase> how do install utorrent as a service, for instance, the file utserver is located in /home/user/utorrent
[20:57] <WACOMalt> akik, but what do those mean?
[20:57] <wileee> catalase, Use the ubuntu repos
[20:57] <WACOMalt> security type?
[20:57] <perebor> it should be enough to set up the wired connection on my laptop as "Shared to other computers" right?
[20:58] <new_guest> deleted it. Now totem doesn't work, it asks me codecs that i have, with gnome mplayer i have no problem
[20:58] <akik> WACOMalt: i think different security levels for the protocol
[21:00] <wileee> new_guest, Where did you get the codec and how was it installed?
[21:00] <biblas> Hi, I'm having trouble getting my prompt colorized, could anyone help me?
[21:00] <ikonia> what's the problem ?
[21:00] <new_guest> from the official ppa of x265
[21:01] <akik> WACOMalt: still another option sec=ntlmssp (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NTLMSSP)
[21:01] <wileee> !ppa-purge | new_guest this is the correct removal
[21:01] <WACOMalt> is there a way to know which I need?
[21:01] <biblas> I've edited my .bashrc (uncommeted force_color_prompt=yes), but no colors are showing in the prompt
[21:01] <WACOMalt> or just try them all until it works...
[21:01] <perebor> do I want to use a bridged connection to share my laptop's wifi through ethernet?
[21:01] <ikonia> biblas: echo $PS1
[21:02] <akik> WACOMalt: you're on your own now.. and google
[21:02] <wileee> new_guest, Have you installed the restricted-extras for the desktop you're using.
[21:02] <biblas> it returns "${debian_chroot:+($debian_chroot)}\u@\h:\w$(parse_git_branch)\$"
[21:02] <ikonia> biblas: there is no colours in that
[21:02] <ikonia> biblas: what are you expecting to happen, what part do you think should be in colour ?
[21:03] <new_guest> yes before installing the x265 codec i was able to play x264 videos
[21:03] <biblas> the prompt, username and current path I was hoping
[21:03] <wileee> !who| new_guest
[21:04] <dark> hi
[21:04] <akik> WACOMalt: do you need to add your domain information to the fstab line?
[21:04] <ikonia> biblas: you'll need to set PS1 for that
[21:04] <new_guest> !ubottu  ok fella
[21:05] <WACOMalt> akik, I'm not on a domain
[21:07] <biblas> ikonia: any idea how I can fix it? My only modification to .baschrc is according to https://www.leaseweblabs.com/2013/08/git-tip-show-your-branch-name-on-the-linux-prompt/
[21:07] <ikonia> biblas: I have no idea what that URL is
[21:07] <ikonia> just modify the PS1 variable to lay the prompt out how you want
[21:08] <biblas> So say I would want it to look like in the link I sent, how would I go about to do that?
[21:08] <ikonia> you modify the PS1 prompt, then commit it to your bashrc when you are happy with it
[21:09] <new_guest> !wileee yes before installing the x265 codec i was able to play x264 videos
[21:09] <biblas> ok, I'll give it a try, thanks!
[21:10] <wileee> new_guest, Not a question I asked.
[21:10] <WACOMalt> FIGURED IT OUT yaaay.  I guess the permissions for a cifs mount are different than most sites list. most say to use fmask and dmask
[21:10] <WACOMalt> but you should use dir_mode and file_mode
[21:10] <akik> great
[21:11] <WACOMalt> /192.168.1.10/WACOSynth  /media/WACOSynth  cifs  noauto,rw,username=guest,password=,dir_mode=0777,file_mode=0666,iocharset=utf8  0  0
[21:11] <WACOMalt> that finally works
[21:11] <new_guest> !wileee yes i have installed that package
[21:11] <WACOMalt> so yay, the issue WAS on linux :P I was at least right about that
[21:14] <wileee> new_guest, You just type a few letter of my nick and hit the tab key to complete it. So do you understand the correct removal of that ppa? PPA's add their own stuff, has to be removed correctly, leaving no dependencies from them.
[21:17] <new_guest> !wileee I have removed the x265 codec and than i have removed the repository from the source list
[21:17] <wileee> new_guest, THis a youtube problem with FF?
[21:18] <new_guest> !wileee no with my local files
[21:20] <wileee> new_guest, I can't help you, your not reading or not understanding the bots info or mine. If english is not your native language, there probably is a channel that is.
[21:20] <new_guest> i'm using a webchat
[21:21] <wileee> new_guest, What is your native language?
[21:21] <new_guest> there is nobody in the italian chat
[21:22] <wileee> new_guest, Fine, but we are not communicating, we are not even close. ;)
[21:22] <icecube45> Anyone mind helping me solve a difficult problem? Trying to install ubuntu 14.04 on a RAID 1 4TB drive, it installs correct, but I get "no boot device available", If I use grub from a different disk,i can boot from the disk successfully, I've tried boot-repair to fix the grub on the disk, yet the same thing happened after a reboot, i currently have
[21:22] <icecube45>  a livecd with boot-repair loaded
[21:23] <new_guest> you asked me about firefox and youtube
[21:25] <WACOMalt> akik, http://wacomalt.com/quick-tip-properly-auto-mounting-unprotected-windows-shares-in-linux-with-full-access/  as you suggested :)
[21:25] <drkjstr> icecube45: Are you using a hardware RAID?\
[21:26] <akik> heh thanks
[21:26] <icecube45> drkjstr:yes, hardware raid 1 via a pci card
[21:26] <new_guest> wileee: now i get it
[21:27] <drkjstr> icecube45: I did it once a long time again, and I'm trying to find the information I used in the past.
[21:27] <akik> WACOMalt: the same reason i started writing things down..
[21:27] <WACOMalt> yeah, my keep.google.com is filled with stuff like this
[21:27] <WACOMalt> only if I think someone else may benefit do I write it in the blog
[21:28] <icecube45> drkjstr:thank you
[21:30] <new_guest> wileee: i was able to play any audio and video files with totem, i have removed the x265 codec an totem only play audio file
[21:30] <b67> Does Ubuntu have backdoors for law encforcement?
[21:30] <new_guest> *and
[21:31] <MonkeyDust> b67  yes, the service is called NSA
[21:31] <OerHeks> !fud
[21:33] <drkjstr> icecube45: Sorry, I'm not finding what I used as my previous guide. I'm sure you found https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto
[21:34] <drkjstr> icecube45: That link is really old. This one might be of more use: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LVMOnRaid
[21:34] <drkjstr> I can't remember if I had to put the /boot and grub on the RAID...
[21:35] <drkjstr> Sorry I can't be of any more help. Maybe someone in #ubuntu-server might have a suggestion.
[21:35] <new_guest> wileee: can you help me now?
[21:35] <OerHeks> b67, "There is no backdoor, not even windows ◔̯◔"
[21:36] <OerHeks> new_guest, add the codec again, solved
[21:37] <new_guest> OerHeks: the x265 freezed my system. I have removed it and now totem can't play x264 video but other player can do it
[21:38] <TJ-> GRUB on raid (bootstrap or core.img) will usually fail because GRUB only has a read-only diskfilter for md
[21:39] <OerHeks> new_guest, what other player? vlc with buildin-codecs ?
[21:39] <TJ-> Bootable RAID also depends on the metadata version; later (default) versions put the metadata where the bootloader wants to be... specifically, need to use 0.90/1.00 metadata with RAID1 if the RAID devices need to be bootable
[21:39] <new_guest> OerHeks: gnome mplayer
[21:40] <OerHeks> new_guest, then purge & reinstall totem
[21:40] <new_guest> OerHeks: i have all the codec libav x264, but after the removal of libde265 totem asks for codecs
[21:41] <icecube45> TJ-:can you explain that for me?
[21:41] <new_guest> OerHeks: ok i'm gonna try again
[21:41] <TJ-> icecube45: I only just came in the channel so missed what you're trying to do... I was dropping some info based on what I saw drkjstr say
[21:44] <OerHeks> new_guest, that lib265 is in development, so any cruft is likely, did you logout/login since then?
[21:44] <icecube45> TJ-:trying to intsall to a hardware raid 1 - installs fine, but i get no boot device found.if i use another install's grub to launch it, it will boot
[21:44] <new_guest> OerHeks: I have rebooted
[21:44] <TJ-> icecube45: OK, if it is *true* hardware RAID1 (i.e. The BIOS/bootloader/OS only see 1 device) then there is no problem
[21:45] <TJ-> icecube45: However... to boot from such a device it must have a BIOS/UEFI Option ROM that provides boot services to the BIOS/UEFI firmware
[21:45] <icecube45> TJ- it is truly hardware raid - only one device
[21:45] <TJ-> icecube45: OK, so my 2nd comment applies
[21:45] <icecube45> TJ-: what do you mean by that?
[21:46] <AvatarA> new_guest, I just connected so can't see all the chat. what doesn't work in totem? are you by any chance trying to play mp4?
[21:47] <TJ-> icecube45: usually when you boot a system with a hardware RAID adapter, during POST you'll see messages from the RAID adapter's Option ROM. That ROM will have a hot-key you can use to configure the array, and should also provide PnP boot services to the system BIOS, so the system BIOS boot-manager can use it as a boot device
[21:47] <icecube45> TJ- it is set as a bios boot device, and the raid card's bios is set to boot off of the array
[21:48] <TJ-> icecube45: OK... so in theory that is enough. What do you see when the system boots (flashing cursor top-left, "No Operating System" message, etc.) ?
[21:49] <icecube45> TJ-: I get the message,  "No boot device found. Press any key to reboot the machine"
[21:50] <TJ-> icecube45: OK... that tells us the System BIOS is likely calling the adapter's PnP (Plug and Play) Option ROM bootstrap code, but that code isn't identifying a boot sector and is returning control to the System BIOS.
[21:50] <new_guest> AvatarA: I was able to play any video files including h.264 with totem, I have installed lib265 bu it freezed my sistem, i have removed it and now tetem can play only audio files, and asks me
[21:50] <TJ-> icecube45: So, the next question is... what disk label format is on the RAID array - is it MBR or GPT?
[21:50] <reisio> anybody witnessed morituri working at all?
[21:50] <MonkeyDust> !info morituri
[21:50] <icecube45> TJ-: that's what i thought, GPT (4TB)
[21:51] <TJ-> icecube45: Many BIOS cannot work with GPT
[21:51] <new_guest> AvatarA: asks me the matroska demuxer but i have the libav installed and i was able to play it before
[21:51] <TJ-> icecube45: Did you configure the RAID device with a hybrid GPT/MBR ?
[21:51] <MonkeyDust> reisio  try Asunder, or ripperX, or, on the comand line, jack -Q -R
[21:51] <icecube45> TJ- At least i assume it's GPT due to the size
[21:51] <icecube45> TJ- no?
[21:52] <TJ-> icecube45: OK... I strongly suspect configuring a hybrid MBR/GPT will solve your issue
[21:52] <icecube45> TJ- the array can boot if i use grub on a different disk
[21:52] <reisio> MonkeyDust: morituri has a specific purpose beyond simply getting audio from a disc, alas
[21:52] <icecube45> TJ-: how can I setup the hybrid thing?
[21:54] <TJ-> icecube45: Use the 'gdisk' tool, advanced options
[21:54] <TJ-> icecube45: first you need to identify which partition(s) should be in the hybrid MBR
[21:54] <TJ-> icecube45: did you assign 1 partition for /boot/ ?
[21:55] <icecube45> TJ-:I used automatic partitioning
[21:55] <icecube45> TJ-: so i have bios_grub, swap, and a ext4
[21:55] <TJ-> icecube45: can you "pastebinit <( parted unit s print )"
[21:56] <TJ-> icecube45: if you have an 0xef02 BIOS boot partition, that makes things much easier
[21:56] <TJ-> icecube45: typo! can you "pastebinit <( sudo parted unit s print /dev/sdX )"  where X is the device
[21:57] <TJ-> icecube45: also, if it isn't too late. With large disks I'd always recommend using LVM rather than a static file-system. With LVM you can assign, grow, shrink, snapshot volumes at will
[21:58] <icecube45> TJ- im just going to use a seprate disk for grub
[21:58] <icecube45> My mind is burnt out on this
[21:58] <goddard> when I connect an xbox one controller to my computer it locks up my system.
[21:58] <TJ-> icecube45: Creating a hybrid is only a case of altering the protective MBR... takes about 1 minute
[21:59] <icecube45> TJ-:no dataloss/reinstall?
[22:00] <reisio> anybody witnessed morituri working at all?
[22:00] <JustSighDudes> Can someone in plain english explain what the difference between bashrc and profile and bash_profile
[22:00] <MonkeyDust> reisio  i installed it, still figuring out how it works
[22:00] <JustSighDudes> Is there a file that gets read by all shells instead of login and/or interactive
[22:00] <reisio> MonkeyDust: oh thanks :)
[22:00] <icecube45> TJ-: I do have a bios boot partition
[22:01] <TJ-> icecube45: No. A hybrid MBR simply means that you can assign up to 3 partitions that are assigned in the GPT, to the MBR as well. So what you need to is to assign the BIOS-boot partition so it is also in the MBR... that way the BIOS boot services will be able to use it
[22:01] <reisio> MonkeyDust: you need a CD, of course, then try any of these: rip offset find; rip drive analyze; rip cd rip; rip cd rip -U
[22:01] <Quest> Good Night
[22:01] <icecube45> TJ-: really?... alright, let me do that whole pastebinit thing
[22:01] <Quest> i need help
[22:01] <reisio> MonkeyDust: IME the application does almost nothing reliably, but I'd like a second opinion
[22:01] <Quest> my dpkg is corrupted
[22:01] <TJ-> icecube45: basically, the definitions of up to 3 partitions are in the MBR and GPT. The 4th MBR partition slot protects the remainder of the disk from accidental use, the same as a protective MBR does
[22:02] <Quest> how i fix it
[22:02] <icecube45> TJ- alright.. booting into a livecd
[22:03] <MonkeyDust> reisio  scroll down, i'm not even going to try    http://pastebin.com/mP8LfjDd
[22:03] <icecube45> TJ-:can you repeat that command for me?
[22:03] <icecube45> I need to increase my scrollback...
[22:03] <reisio> MonkeyDust: oh great, dunno how I missed that info
[22:04] <reisio> MonkeyDust: sounds kind of useless and crap, doesn't it?
[22:04] <TJ-> icecube45: "pastebinit <( sudo parted unit s print /dev/sdX )"  where X is the RAID device
[22:04] <MonkeyDust> reisio  i'm happy with what i suggested earlier
[22:04] <caliculk> Hey, when restoring a ubuntu installation from archived files, (including /var) should you remove the apt entries so nothing is screwed up when you try to reinstall apps?
[22:04] <TJ-> icecube45: actually, this: "pastebinit <( sudo parted /dev/sdX unit s print )"  where X is the RAID device
[22:04] <reisio> MonkeyDust: --unknown (-U) actually uses the builtin freedb support which is way superior to musicbrainz, but... it still barely works with that, IME
[22:05] <reisio> I wonder if I can use -U with every last 'rip' command...
[22:05]  * reisio tries
[22:07] <reisio> caliculk: why woudl someting be screwed u?
[22:07] <reisio> something*
[22:07] <caliculk> Sorry, readign that again, it doesn't make very much sense. I archived my files and reinstalled the OS, and am now trying to restore that archive. However, I am curious that if I restore the files pertaining to apt it may screw something up on the new install. Is it better to remove the apt folder and files and start from scratch in this situation?
[22:07] <icecube45> TJ- still booting livecd..
[22:07] <caliculk> reisio: not sure, just want to make sure it wouldn't screw up by thinking any apps are previously installed or something.
[22:07] <reisio> caliculk: you can always restore specific files as needed if and when you encounter issues
[22:08] <TJ-> icecube45: OK
[22:10] <icecube45> TJ-: command is taking a bit..
[22:10] <TJ-> icecube45: I think I must be asleep... I've typed it 3 times and got it wrong :)
[22:10] <icecube45> TJ- what is it..
[22:11] <icecube45> TJ- http://paste.ubuntu.com/12161340/
[22:12] <TJ-> icecube45: : "pastebinit <( sudo parted /dev/sdX unit s print )"  where X is the RAID device
[22:12] <icecube45> TJ- see aove
[22:12] <icecube45> above*
[22:12] <TJ-> icecube45: Argggh! You've got the bios boot partition at the end of the disk. This may not be possible.
[22:13] <icecube45> TJ- I can make on at the beginning...
[22:13] <icecube45> one*
[22:13] <icecube45> Just 1mb, right?
[22:13] <icecube45> TJ- want me to?
[22:14] <POGtastic> hi, got a quick question that I'm not quite sure how to google. Is it possible to map mouse input to a hotkey in Ubuntu / Lubuntu? as in, hit the F6 key, and the mouse will click.
[22:14] <reisio> yes
[22:14] <TJ-> icecube45: Yes... it needs to be within the first 2GiB because the sector numbers in MBR cannot address any higher
[22:14] <reisio> an input device is an input device
[22:14] <icecube45> TJ-: uno momento
[22:15] <icecube45> TJ- i'll need to reinstall grub then, right?
[22:16] <TJ-> icecube45: I'm trying to figure out how you can do it. There isn't sufficient space at the start to slip a new partition in
[22:16] <icecube45> TJ-:yea there is
[22:16] <icecube45> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12161467/
[22:17] <TJ-> icecube45: Ah, OK... that just gives alignment a knock
[22:17] <icecube45> TJ- gotta reintall grub tho, right?
[22:17] <TJ-> icecube45: Yes. first you need to use gdisk's advanced menu to copy partition #1 into the hybrid MBR
[22:18] <Jeeves_Moss> how do I launch a screen session, and run a command in that screen (detached)?
[22:18] <icecube45> TJ-: gdisk or gparted?
[22:18] <POGtastic> @ <Jeeves_Moss> when you type a command into the terminal, type an & after it. that will run the process in the background, and you can use the terminal as normal.
[22:18] <CarlFK> how do I do-release-upgrade a 12.10 ?  do-release-upgrade says No new release found
[22:19] <TJ-> icecube45: "sudo gdisk /dev/sda"
[22:19] <icecube45> done
[22:19] <TJ-> icecube45: Then press ? to see the menu options. You'll want 'r' - recovery and transformation
[22:19] <icecube45> k
[22:19] <icecube45> now what
[22:19] <TJ-> icecube45: press ? again. You'll see 'h' make hybrid MBR. do that
[22:20] <OerHeks> 12:10 > 13.04 ( eol) > 13.10 (eol) > 14.04 LTS .. i would reinstall fresh
[22:20] <icecube45> done
[22:20] <TJ-> icecube45: Now you'll have "...Type from one to three GPT partition numbers, separated by spaces,..."
[22:20] <icecube45> yea
[22:20] <Jeeves_Moss> POGtastic, will that launch a screen session (and how do I name that screen session) with the command running in it?  Then will it close the screen session once the program is done running?
[22:20] <icecube45> dev/sda1 ?
[22:20] <TJ-> icecube45: so type "1" and you're done. Then do 'w' to write it to disk
[22:20] <icecube45> with a slash ofc
[22:21] <TJ-> icecube45: you're only typing partition numbers, not giving Linux device names
[22:21] <icecube45> k
[22:21] <icecube45> done
[22:21] <icecube45> time to reboot to the livecd again?
[22:21] <TJ-> icecube45: e.g. if you wanted partitions sda1 sda5 sda7 you'd type 1 5 7
[22:21] <icecube45> then install grub?
[22:21] <TJ-> icecube45: No
[22:21] <icecube45> or grub it now?
[22:21] <TJ-> icecube45: You can do it in a mo.
[22:21] <TJ-> icecube45: Now do "sudo partprobe /dev/sda"
[22:22] <icecube45> nothing showed up
[22:22] <TJ-> icecube45: you're working from the booted system right now are you?
[22:22] <POGtastic> sorry, I misread your question. didn't realize that you were talking about Screen; thought you were just talking about a generic session.
[22:22] <TJ-> icecube45: nothing expected. You just told the kernel to re-read the partition table.
[22:22] <icecube45> No, im not
[22:22] <icecube45> working from the booted system
[22:22] <icecube45> im on a ivecd
[22:22] <icecube45> livecd*
[22:22] <TJ-> icecube45: OK, so we can install grub via a chroot
[22:23] <icecube45> TJ- ok, how?
[22:23] <TJ-> icecube45: Or, you can do your alternate boot device boot once, and do "sudo grub-install /dev/sda" from that installed system
[22:23] <Jeeves_Moss> POGtastic, nope.  I need to launch a file move in a screen session (with a name), and have it detach.  Once the move is done, I need it to pull down the screen it just made
[22:23] <icecube45> TJ- can't i just intsall boot-repair?
[22:23] <TJ-> icecube45: Probably quicker to do the alternate boot than use the Live ISO
[22:24] <icecube45> TJ- huh?
[22:24] <TJ-> icecube45: It's overkill for this, and might change things we don't want it to
[22:24] <icecube45> TJ- what about boot-repair :P
[22:24] <icecube45> Fineee
[22:24] <icecube45> So.. boot into the raid array?
[22:24] <goddard> can some one help a device from crashing my system?
[22:24] <TJ-> icecube45: If you want to do it from Live ISO, there are about 10 steps
[22:24] <icecube45> TJ- im booting into it
[22:24] <goddard> I find it insane a USB device can crash Linux
[22:24] <TJ-> icecube45: if you do alternate boot, then it's a simple grub-install
[22:24] <TJ-> icecube45: OK :)
[22:27] <icecube45> TJ- booting it up
[22:30] <icecube45> TJ- seems to be refusing to boot
[22:31] <TJ-> icecube45: trying to read the RAID bios_grub partition of course! You need to manually choose the alternate boot device
[22:31] <icecube45> TJ- im using the grub of a different disk install
[22:31] <icecube45> TJ- pointing it at /dev/sda2
[22:31] <icecube45> not booting from that
[22:32] <icecube45> goes back to the disk that the grub is on
[22:33] <WACOMalt> aaand now my automount isnt working again
[22:33] <dweller_> I get this error at startup: "The disk drive for /dev/mapper/cryptswap1 is not ready yet or not present". I have tried following the steps outline here: http://punygeek.blogspot.ca/2012/10/ubuntu-1204-how-to-solve-disk-drive-for.html which does show the swap partition is present after "free -m" but upon reboot, the problem persists.
[22:33] <WACOMalt> worked after doing sudo mount -a, but no longer
[22:33] <WACOMalt> after a reboot
[22:34] <TJ-> icecube45: that's strange. That should be sufficient, although doesn't the boot device show up as /dev/sda in that case, and the RAID as /dev/sdb ? In grub terms the RAID/Linux should root be (hd1,2)
[22:35] <icecube45> TJ- the boot disk is attatched via usb
[22:35] <TJ-> icecube45: so are you using the GRUB command-line from that, to boot the RAID?
[22:35] <icecube45> im using the grub menu (holding down shift)
[22:35] <icecube45> but yes
[22:36] <TJ-> icecube45: I'd try using the GRUB command line, you have full control then. Press 'c'
[22:36] <TJ-> icecube45: now type "ls" and it'll list all the mass storage devices
[22:36] <icecube45> TJ- uno momento
[22:37] <TJ-> icecube45: then you need to discover which is the RAID. You can do things like ls (hd0,2)/" to list the root directory, or "ls (hd0,2)/boot/" or even "cat (hd0,2)/etc/issue" - assuming (hd0) is the RAID device.
[22:38] <new_guest> Ok guys i have solved my problem. I have re-installed libde265 and now totem can play my 264 videos. It doesn't have any sense because it was able to play those videos without libde265, before  my decision to install it and than remove it  cause it freezed my system playing 265 video. So thank yall.
[22:38] <TJ-> icecube45: the RAID device has 3 partitions so 'ls' should show something like "(hd0,1) (hd0,2) (hd0,3)"
[22:41] <dasmadchen> Hi could you help me telling me what's the difference between the logs generated as *.log and the ones as *.log.1 ?
[22:42] <TJ-> dasmadchen: the numbered logs are the older files that have been rotated out by logrotate
[22:42] <sisccl> im not sure but don’t you start getting *.log.1 etc. once they are full for rotation
[22:42] <TJ-> dasmadchen: logrotate will compress even older logs with gzip too
[22:42] <icecube45> TJ- it's hd1
[22:42] <icecube45> i mean
[22:42] <icecube45> hd0
[22:43] <TJ-> icecube45: I thought it would be, but you can't always be sure since the BIOS controls the drive numbering
[22:43] <icecube45> TJ- how do i launch it
[22:44] <scott606> I downloaded ccsm trying to get the cool cube going .. and now when i start the cube my origional background doesnt dissapear and as i rotate it blurs the cube like snapshotting as i turn
[22:44] <scott606> I sat everything back to default and it still does the snapshotting.. it didnt do it till i was poking around in the settings
[22:44] <TJ-> icecube45: OK, so we should be able to boot from it directly with "set prefix=(hd0,2)/boot"   and "set root=(hd0,2)"  and then "insmod normal" then "normal"
[22:45] <TJ-> icecube45: If that works, the grub menu that comes up is from the RAID device
[22:46] <icecube45> TJ-: thats not working
[22:46] <icecube45> set prefix that is
[22:46] <icecube45> "not an assignment"
[22:46] <TJ-> icecube45: hang on, I may have the syntax wrong. I'm firing up a GRUB VM
[22:46] <icecube45> was my bad
[22:46] <icecube45> typed it wrong
[22:47] <icecube45> TJ- k, i did those commands
[22:47] <icecube45> TJ- reboot to the grub menu?
[22:47] <TJ-> icecube45: I should have said that it ought to be  (hd0,msdos2)   too, since we have both MBR and GPT, GRUB may need to know which to read
[22:47] <icecube45> oh
[22:47] <icecube45> so
[22:47] <icecube45> do it again?
[22:47] <icecube45> but with hd(0,msdos2) rather than hd(0,2)
[22:47] <icecube45> ?
[22:48] <TJ-> icecube45: when you do "normal" ... that should load the GRUB menu. if it doesn't, then GRUB isn't loading its config from the RAID device
[22:48] <icecube45> normal didnt do anything
[22:48] <TJ-> icecube45: Yes, I gave you the wrong syntax for root... it should be "set root=hd0,msdos2"
[22:48] <TJ-> icecube45: as in, no surrounding ()
[22:49] <icecube45> TJ- ls doesnt list a msdos2
[22:49] <icecube45> TJ- just msdos 1 and msdos5
[22:49] <icecube45> TJ- the same for set prefix?
[22:50] <TJ-> icecube45: hmmm... OK, I wonder if GRUB is only reading the MBR.
[22:50] <TJ-> icecube45: no, prefix uses the () ... that's why I got confused!
[22:50] <icecube45> TJ-: idk..
[22:50] <icecube45> TJ-:k..
[22:51] <icecube45> TJ-:so, set prefix=hd(0,msdos2)/boot ?
[22:51] <TJ-> icecube45: msdos5 suggests that is a logical partition in an extended device. That doesn't match what you have on the RAID. Are you sure that isn't the alternate disk you're booted from?
[22:51] <r1k1_> maybe go for ubuntu live usb stick and use this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[22:51] <icecube45> TJ- i dont even know anymore
[22:51] <icecube45> TJ- its the grub of the alternate disk..
[22:52] <TJ-> icecube45: If hd0 was the RAID we'd either see the hybrid MBR entries, or the GPT entries. which would be numbered 1-2 or 1-3
[22:52] <TJ-> icecube45: I expected you to see a hd1 as well, which would be the RAID device.
[22:53] <TJ-> icecube45: In grub, when you do 'ls' it scans for mass storage devices and lists them
[22:54] <icecube45> ls has this
[22:54] <icecube45> (hd0) (hd0,msdos5) (hd0, msdos1) (hd1)
[22:55] <TJ-> icecube45: ha! (hd1) ... I bet we just need to 'insmod' additional modules
[22:55] <icecube45> k
[22:55] <icecube45> what do i do
[22:56] <r1k1_> sudo update-grub or that boor repair?
[22:56] <TJ-> icecube45: let's double check where GRUB is from. type "set" and look at the list of variables, in particular cmdpath
[22:56] <r1k1_> not sure dont listen mee bit drunk
[22:56] <icecube45> hd0
[22:56] <icecube45> TJ-
[22:57] <TJ-> icecube45: OK, hd0 is the alternate disk. Let's try "insmod nativedisk" and then "ls" again
[22:57] <icecube45> no change
[22:57] <TJ-> icecube45: that may fail since we changed prefix/root and we may have to reset them to their original values
[22:57] <icecube45> TJ- i already rebooted
[22:57] <icecube45> if it doesnt persist that is
[22:57] <TJ-> icecube45: OK, it doesnt, so 'set' is showing the default values
[22:57] <icecube45> yea
[22:58] <icecube45> no change with that insmod
[22:58] <TJ-> icecube45: so I'm guessing you have "prefix=(hd0,msdos5)/boot/grub" or similar
[22:58] <icecube45> ye
[22:58] <icecube45> msdos1 tho
[22:59] <TJ-> icecube45: OK, that makes sense. So we want (hd1) to also show (hd1,gptX) X=1,2,3
[23:00] <icecube45> ye
[23:00] <TJ-> icecube45: "insmod part_gpt" and then "ls"
[23:01] <icecube45> got it
[23:01] <TJ-> icecube45:  :)
[23:01] <icecube45> now what
[23:01] <TJ-> icecube45: OK, so Linux is on partition 2
[23:01] <icecube45> k
[23:02] <icecube45> so do root and prefix again but with hd1,gpt2 ?
[23:02] <TJ-> icecube45: so lets be 100$ certain we can see the GRUB files before we change those
[23:02] <TJ-> icecube45: "ls (hd1,gpt2)/boot/grub/"
[23:03] <TJ-> icecube45: you should see 'grub.cfg' and 'i386-pc/" and others
[23:03] <icecube45> i see stuff that says grub
[23:03] <icecube45> yea
[23:03] <TJ-> icecube45: Yay!
[23:03] <icecube45> so now what
[23:04] <TJ-> icecube45: OK "set prefix=(hd1,gpt2)/boot/grub" and "set root=hd1,gpt2" and then "insmod normal" then "normal"
[23:04] <icecube45> grub menu!
[23:04] <icecube45> now what
[23:04] <TJ-> icecube45:  Finally :D
[23:04] <TJ-> icecube45: boot Ubuntu!
[23:04] <icecube45> the very first one?
[23:05] <icecube45> there are two sets of options
[23:05] <TJ-> icecube45: That should be the boot menu from the RAID device so yes
[23:05] <icecube45> well
[23:05] <TJ-> icecube45: if not sure, press 'e' whilst an entry is highlighted and check it
[23:05] <icecube45> i tried the first "Ubuntu"
[23:05] <icecube45> wrong one it seems
[23:05] <icecube45> i need to do that all again dont i
[23:06] <TJ-> icecube45: When you tried that entry did anything happen? Usually a faulty entry just means GRUB returns to the boot meny
[23:06] <icecube45> it booted to the external disk
[23:07] <TJ-> icecube45: Oh... oh sod it, let's use a chroot from there!
[23:07] <TJ-> icecube45: dont' reboot. get a terminal open
[23:07] <icecube45> Too late
[23:07] <icecube45> :P
[23:07]  * TJ- laughs ... I'm going to go make a strong coffee!
[23:09] <icecube45> TJ- two seconds
[23:09] <icecube45> TJ- ready for chrooting
[23:10] <TJ-> icecube45: OK identify the RAID device: "lsblk"
[23:11] <icecube45> got it
[23:11] <icecube45> mounted in /media
[23:11] <icecube45> sda2
[23:11] <TJ-> icecube45: what's the mountpoint path?
[23:11] <icecube45> media/user/longassstringgoeshere
[23:12] <TJ-> icecube45: let's make things easier. "udisksctl unmount --block-device /dev/sda2" ... that should remove that user mount
[23:12] <icecube45> done
[23:13] <TJ-> icecube45: Use "mount | grep sda2" to ensure its gone, then: "sudo mkdir /target  && sudo mount /dev/sda2 /target"
[23:13] <icecube45> done
[23:14] <TJ-> icecube45: then "for n in proc/ sys/ dev/ /dev/pts etc/resolv.conf; do sudo mount --bind /$n /target/$n; done"
[23:14] <TJ-> icecube45: then "chroot /target"
[23:14] <TJ-> icecube45: Then, finally, "grub-install /dev/sda" ... hopefully that won't report any problems!
[23:14] <icecube45> you mean /etc/resolv.conf?
[23:15] <TJ-> icecube45: no, leave off the initial / for those paths
[23:15] <TJ-> icecube45: the mount --bind command inserts the / in the right places
[23:16] <icecube45> done with that command
[23:16] <icecube45> chrooting now
[23:16] <icecube45> chrooted
[23:16] <Dekker3D> Hey all
[23:16] <icecube45> installing grub..
[23:16] <icecube45> no error reported
[23:16] <icecube45> TJ-.. reboot?
[23:16] <TJ-> icecube45: "update-grub"
[23:17] <a_> led ubuntu mini.iso with lxde desktop...after this i install gnome networkmanager but i cant see it in lx panel
[23:17] <icecube45> updating grub
[23:17] <icecube45> done
[23:17] <icecube45> reboot?
[23:17] <TJ-> icecube45: then "exit" and reboot and hope :)
[23:17] <icecube45> here goes nothing
[23:17] <Dekker3D> Ever since I got my current mobo, I haven't been able to install Linux on my pc. I suspect UEFI. But either way, I could use some help trying to finally get Linux on this thing. I'm starting to miss it.
[23:17] <a_> i have installed ubuntu mini.iso with lxde desktop...after this i install gnome networkmanager but i cant see it in lx panel
[23:18] <icecube45> No boot device found
[23:18] <icecube45> I hate this
[23:19] <TJ-> icecube45: that makes no sense now
[23:20] <icecube45> TJ- didn't make sense before, continues not to make sense
[23:20] <TJ-> icecube45: it did make sense originally, because there was no MBR entries the BIOS could find
[23:20] <icecube45> TJ- I think this bios supports gpt tho..
[23:21] <TJ-> icecube45: there's one other possibility... some BIOS boot routines are very particular and require the MBR partition with the boot code to have its boot flag set
[23:21] <Dekker3D> Current situation is: I have a Windows 7 install. I have tried to use LinuxLive USB Creator to make a bootable usb stick of the 64-bit and 32-bit versions of the latest Ubuntu.
[23:21] <icecube45> TJ- how can i do that..
[23:21] <Dekker3D> 32-bit and 64-bit both failed in different ways.
[23:21] <TJ-> icecube45: the system BIOS might, but the RAID adapter option ROM might not
[23:21] <nas_> hi new join
[23:21] <TJ-> icecube45: use 'fdisk', or from grub use the parttool module
[23:21] <icecube45> TJ- how i do
[23:22] <wileee> Dekker3D, Have you checked the md5sum on either ios's or disks/usb's you've used?
[23:22] <icecube45> TJ- what about gparted?
[23:22] <wileee> iso's*
[23:22] <TJ-> icecube45: Yes, any partitioning tool... provided it lets you focus on the MBR... things like gparted will usually pick the GPT, not the MBR
[23:23] <icecube45> k, fdisk command?
[23:23] <Dekker3D> wileee, I haven't. But I downloaded the 64 bit version off the Ubuntu website, while the 32 bit version was automatically downloaded. It's pretty much the same problem I've had every time I tried to get Ubuntu on this machine, as far as I remember.
[23:23] <TJ-> icecube45: yes
[23:23] <icecube45> TJ- what is it?
[23:23] <Dekker3D> I'll see if I can figure out how to md5sum on windows
[23:23] <icecube45> TJ- the command that is
[23:24] <wileee> Dekker3D, Which we have yet to actually hear described, get to that point. ;)
[23:24] <Dekker3D> wileee, I didn't want to spam this chat while nobody seemed to be listening :P
[23:24] <TJ-> icecube45: "sudo fdisk /dev/sda" then the 'p' to see the current state. Does it show the boot flag set (a *) next to the bios_boot partition?
[23:25] <wileee> Dekker3D, You already have, slowness does not mean lack of support, you second guessing yourself into a corner.
[23:25] <Dekker3D> On 32 bit, it would simply open up the shell. Unity, I think? I could mess around, it was a bit slow due to running from usb, but yeah. Normal live usb behaviour. Except the installation utility would just hang.
[23:25] <OerHeks> !md5sum
[23:25] <icecube45> TJ- no, the star is next to the ext4 partition
[23:25] <Dekker3D> The installation utility had 7 dots, indicating 7 steps, it seems. The first step was fine. Second step was skipped, it seems, as it went straight to third.
[23:26] <mranonymous> I exited apt-get upgrade so that it's still running in the background. How to get into back into this process from shell?
[23:26] <squinty> Dekker3D, winmd5sum   freebie
[23:26] <Dekker3D> It mentioned a disk (sdd and some number, don't remember) being mounted and asking to unmount
[23:26] <TJ-> icecube45: OK... that *may* be the issue then. use the 'a' option to toggle the boot flag so it is on the bios_boot partition
[23:26] <Dekker3D> I clicked yes, and then it just got stuck in the next step. "preparing to install" or something.
[23:26] <icecube45> TJ- done
[23:26] <Dekker3D> I let it sit for an hour, and nothing changed
[23:26] <icecube45> TJ- i'm also noticing.. the ext4 is efi?
[23:26] <wileee> Dekker3D, very little of this is relevant, you need to stop and answer questions if asked.
[23:26] <Dekker3D> It wasn't frozen, I could still click the close button and close the installer without breaking anything else.
[23:27] <Dekker3D> Oh, sorry.
[23:27] <TJ-> icecube45: strictly though, any partition with a boot flag set should be sufficient. So I'm beginning to think there's a PERC issue here
[23:27] <TJ-> icecube45: really? can you show me? I'd expect the protective partition to end "ee GPT"
[23:27] <icecube45> TJ- let me pastebin
[23:27] <Dekker3D> The 64 bit version had an actual error message, whether I tried to run from live usb or install directly. It mentioned not having a mountable disk, I think. Anyway, I'll check the md5sum first.
[23:28] <mranonymous> guys, how to enter a process that's in the background without installing anything?
[23:28] <icecube45> TJ- http://paste.ubuntu.com/12163818/
[23:28] <squinty> Dekker3D, http://www.nullriver.com/products/winmd5sum
[23:29] <icecube45> TJ- wait.. is that swap?
[23:29] <TJ-> icecube45: Ohhhhh! 1 and 4 are protectives; 2 is the boot partition :)
[23:29] <icecube45> TJ- ok?.. so set flag back to 2?
[23:29] <TJ-> icecube45: remember this is a hybrid MBR, it contains protective entries and actual partitions
[23:29] <TJ-> icecube45: Yup :)
[23:30] <TJ-> icecube45: in which case, this points to some issue with the PERC boot ROM
[23:30] <icecube45> Yup
[23:30] <icecube45> Or something
[23:30] <icecube45> urgh
[23:30] <icecube45> idek
[23:30] <snowkidind> weird weird weird
[23:30] <Dekker3D> I used http://winmd5.com/ to run an md5sum. Both the 32 and 64 bit isos match the sums listed at http://releases.ubuntu.com/15.04/MD5SUMS
[23:31] <TJ-> icecube45: It's not that unusual. I'm working with Super Talent/Asmedia to fix a bug in a PCIe SSD with a boot ROM that has a similar issue. Except in this case it completely hangs the system at boot time
[23:31] <icecube45> TJ- ah.. well.. im stuck
[23:31] <icecube45> let me see if there are updates to the rom and shit
[23:31] <snowkidind> i bought a monitor switcher for three machines to one monitor. The machines are all DVI but i convert them to HDMI and the switcher is HDMI. The two non- ubuntu boxes work. The ubuntu box only works if another box is turned on.
[23:32] <snowkidind> any ideas?
[23:32] <TJ-> icecube45: If I had hands-on I'd be able to sort that out quickly, but being remote... it makes the task 10x harder... can't use behavioural clues and intuition
[23:32] <TJ-> icecube45: if you had a network KVM :)
[23:33] <Dekker3D> Okay, so "dekkerphone" is me on my phone so I can keep track of stuff here while I actually try to get Linux to work.
[23:33] <Dekker3D> Any suggestions on what to do, folks?
[23:34] <reisio> Dekker3D: 'bout what
[23:34] <Dekker3D> The install problems I mentioned earlier.
[23:34] <mranonymous> Guys, can someone please tell me how to enter a process from shell?
[23:34] <icecube45> thanks for all the help TJ-
[23:35] <MonkeyDust> mranonymous  "enter a process from shell"?
[23:35] <mranonymous> monkey, process is in the background, i need to get into it
[23:36] <MonkeyDust> mranonymous  did you send it to background with ctrl-z? then you need to type fg
[23:37] <MonkeyDust> mranonymous  if it started as a daemon, then i don't know
[23:37] <Dekker3D> wileee, any ideas? Or did I miss a question I'm supposed to answer?
[23:38] <mranonymous> monkey, i pressed ctrl-c when i was in apt-get upgrade and it's still running
[23:39] <MonkeyDust> mranonymous  ctrl-c stops a process... where do you see it running?
[23:41] <mranonymous> monkey, i pressed it while i was checking difference between files to replace, it exited, but process is still running
[23:41] <mranonymous> monkey, in background
[23:41] <MonkeyDust> mranonymous  where do you see that?
[23:42] <mranonymous> monkey, in sudo ps x
[23:42] <MonkeyDust> mranonymous  mranonymous does 'jobs' show something? normally that's used after you typed ctrl-z
[23:43] <JustSighDudes> Guys, if .bashrc is included in .profile, then I should just put everything in .bashrc, right?
[23:43] <mranonymous> monkey, nope tried it already
[23:45] <OpenSorce> 14.04 twice in the last two years the kernel upgrade has failed resulting in continuous reboots from grub. I know how to fix it from the CLI. I'd like to show the owner of this machine how do fix it from the GUI. What steps would you guys take to remove the failed kernel update and re-install it?
[23:47] <mranonymous> monkey, very troubling, i didn't know how to exit diff, and now i better kill apt-get upgrade and dpkg, but seems silly
[23:48] <x86iac> JustSighDudes: you mean .bash_profile?   then yes .bashrc is then sourced
[23:49] <MonkeyDust> mranonymous  it's not silly, it's annoying
[23:49] <JustSighDudes> x86iac, ~/.profile
[23:50] <MonkeyDust> mranonymous  no clue, i'm sure someone else has more ideas
[23:50] <plytro> mranonymous: have you tried fg?
[23:51] <mranonymous> MonkeyDust, thanks man, glad to have help
[23:51] <mranonymous> plytro: yes, and jobs
[23:51] <plytro> why do you need to get into it?
[23:51] <plytro> its just a diff from apt-get?
[23:51] <imwoodythecowboy> sup
[23:52] <mranonymous> plytro: from apt-get upgrade, dpkg is stuck now
[23:53] <imwoodythecowboy> sup
[23:54] <plytro> kill the diff
[23:54] <plytro> not -9
[23:54] <plytro> just kill
[23:55] <imwoodythecowboy> anyany1 know any leet haxor chats
[23:55] <x86iac> imwoodythecowboy: #leet_haxor_chats ?
[23:55] <imwoodythecowboy> lol
[23:56] <mranonymous> plytro: dpkg is still running
[23:56] <plytro> is it doing anything?
[23:57] <plytro> you could kill that too
[23:57] <OpenSorce> imwoodythecowboy, not on this server. Or any server you'd probably want to visit.
[23:57] <pte_petey> hi
[23:57] <plytro> and just run apt-get again with a --fix-broken
[23:57] <imwoodythecowboy> wut
[23:57] <pte_petey> I just installed #ubuntu onto my machine but it's only got a 6gb ssd
[23:58] <mranonymous> plytro: ok that is a workaround, I was just thinking there must be a better way, but yea, thanks
[23:58] <pte_petey> most of the drive space is taken up with files in the usr directory - most appear to be related to encryption as i've an encrypted drive
[23:58] <pte_petey> how can i reallocte the space best?
[23:58] <mranonymous> plytro: gonna do just that
[23:58] <pte_petey> (bearing in mind it is a fresh install)
[23:58] <mranonymous> plytro: thanks
[23:59] <OpenSorce> 14.04 twice in the last two years the kernel upgrade has failed resulting in continuous reboots from grub. I know how to fix it from the CLI. I'd like to show the owner of this machine how do fix it from the GUI. What steps would you guys take to remove the failed kernel update and re-install it?