[02:57] <eanyx> Hi, I would like to participate in debugging next ubuntu release.
[03:02] <tsimonq2> Hi, eanyx, have you figured this out yet, or can I still help you?
[03:03] <eanyx> I've get the lastest stable and instable vanilla kernel and build it on ubuntu 15.04
[03:04] <tsimonq2> So are you running wily or vivid?
[03:04] <tsimonq2> (if you are unsure, do lsb_release -a in the terminal)
[03:05] <eanyx> I'm runnin vivid now, but I will also run wily in a virtual box.
[03:05] <tsimonq2> Ok, what exactly do you mean by debugging?
[03:05] <tsimonq2> Fixing bugs?
[03:05] <tsimonq2> QA?
[03:05] <tsimonq2> What?
[03:06] <tsimonq2> eanyx
[03:06] <eanyx> I'm C++ engineer and UNIX/Linux system engineer, so I've experience in all of that (reporting bug, fixing, QA, tracability, etc.)
[03:08] <tsimonq2> What would you like to do? You can certainly do QA, Bug Triage, Bug fixing AND Package Maintaining, but I would recommend that you start with one(IMO) so you can get the feel of what it is like to help Ubuntu...
[03:08] <eanyx> And I'm specially interested in ubuntu
[03:08] <tsimonq2> I do QA for Lubuntu :)
[03:09] <tsimonq2> Yes, I get that, but what would you like me to get you started on first?
[03:10] <tsimonq2> eanyx
[03:11] <tsimonq2> Unless you want to do multiple :)
[03:11] <eanyx> What is the process to with?
[03:11] <eanyx> to start with?
[03:12] <tsimonq2> You can start anywhere, but if it makes any difference, I started with QA, because that is the easist to me.
[03:13] <tsimonq2> So I would reccomend that...
[03:15] <tsimonq2> I just noticed my typo, * recommend :P
[03:15] <tsimonq2> eanyx
[03:18] <eanyx> Have you tried the latest kernel?
[03:20] <tsimonq2> I am running wily right now...so 4.1.0-3
[03:20] <eanyx> For me the 4.1.6 stable run properly my virtual box host, but 4.2 rc-7 there is some lags.
[03:20] <eanyx> I've been told that wily will be based on 4.2 kernel.
[03:21] <tsimonq2> Most likely, yes.
[03:21] <eanyx> I'm wondering what is the level of maturity of rc kernel?
[03:22] <tsimonq2> It is a release canidate, but I can't really answer many questiona bout the kernel as I am not a kernel developer :)
[03:25] <tsimonq2> So, eanyx, are you going to want to help with the next Ubuntu release?
[03:25] <eanyx> yes I want !
[03:25] <tsimonq2> What would you like to do?
[03:25] <eanyx> I will use it as my main office use (dev C++)
[03:26] <eanyx> I would like to report bug, and try to enhance usability
[03:26] <tsimonq2> Be enhance usability, you mean actually timkering with the code?\
[03:26] <tsimonq2> *tikering
[03:26] <tsimonq2> wow
[03:26] <tsimonq2> *tinkering
[03:26]  * tsimonq2 sighs
[03:27] <tsimonq2> Or do you just want to report bugs, eanyx
[03:27] <eanyx> I've found that Linux is great on server tasks, but for desktop it still lack some userfriendly behavior.
[03:28] <tsimonq2> Well Unity can be bad sometimes...I tried out Lubuntu and liked it...
[03:28] <tsimonq2> And if you want to do that, you can just report a bug as a feature request, assign it to yourself, then do that
[03:29] <tsimonq2> But feature freeze ended on Thursday...
[03:29] <tsimonq2> And by that, I mean the feature freeze is in place from now until the release of Wily...
[03:30] <eanyx> when start the bug tracking phase?
[03:30] <tsimonq2> Bug reporting is all the time...you can submit bugs anytime...
[03:31] <tsimonq2> But now they are focusing on fixing bugs
[03:31] <eanyx> But before the official release there is some deadline of submission?
[03:31] <tsimonq2> So do you want to report bugs, eanyx?
[03:31] <tsimonq2> Ummm
[03:31] <tsimonq2> Let me check quick
[03:32] <eanyx> yes i would like to report bugs.
[03:32] <tsimonq2> And October 15 is the final freeze...https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WilyWerewolf/ReleaseSchedule
[03:33] <eanyx> I would also stress test ubuntu to any task (stability at high load, max uptime, disk i/o without corruption, new filesystem without corruption (zfs, btrfs)).
[03:33] <tsimonq2> eanyx: And so how are you going to find those bugs? Random testing or are you going to be following the QA test cases?
[03:33] <tsimonq2> Oh, okay
[03:33] <tsimonq2> So you aren't going to follow the test cases?
[03:33] <eanyx> I can do some freeform testing to tests any no thinked behavior, but can also follow a QA checklist
[03:34] <tsimonq2> (although we always need more people on QA :))
[03:34] <tsimonq2> Ok
[03:34] <tsimonq2> So let me get you what you need
[03:34] <tsimonq2> One second
[03:36] <tsimonq2> Here is the bug-filing guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs
[03:37] <tsimonq2> Here is the package testing QA tracker: http://packages.qa.ubuntu.com/
[03:37] <tsimonq2> Here is the ISO testing QA tracker: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/
[03:38] <tsimonq2> eanyx: Is that all you need?
[03:39] <eanyx> What is the process of fixing bugs (is there some code review by ubuntu coders?)
[03:42] <tsimonq2> I am not entirely sure what happens after you submit it(I think it goes through some developers who look at the code and test it). But if you want an easy, straightforward guide on getting your computer set up to do this, follow this guide: http://packaging.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-packaging-guide.pdf
[03:43] <tsimonq2> Will that be it?
[03:43] <tsimonq2> eanyx
[03:44] <tsimonq2> And I thought I would let you know...for QA, the IRC channel is #ubuntu-quality, for bugs the channel is #ubuntu-bugs, and for regular developer questions, there is #ubuntu-devel
[03:47] <eanyx> Thank you tsimonq2, will have a check of all your links. And will start heavy debugging of my favorite OS :)
[03:48] <tsimonq2> Ok, thanks! If you need anything ,send me a PM
[03:49] <eanyx> what is a PM?
[03:53] <eanyx> tsimonq2 are you of ubuntu official team?
[03:55] <tsimonq2> No I am not...
[03:55] <tsimonq2> But again, I do participate in QA for Lubuntu?
[03:55] <tsimonq2> no question amrk :P
[03:55] <tsimonq2> *mark
[03:56] <tsimonq2> PM is a message...do /msg tsimonq2
[03:57] <tsimonq2> And eanyx...if you want to give me an endorsement for when I apply, my wiki page is here, just edit it...https://wiki.ubuntu.com/tsimonq2
[03:59] <eanyx> Thank you very much tsimonq2, have a good night :)
[04:00] <tsimonq2> You too eanyx :)
[04:02] <eanyx> hey it's the morning here (6AM) :)
[04:12] <tsimonq2> For me it is 11:12 PM XD
[04:35] <eanyx> have a nice days guys.
[06:04] <lordievader> Good morning.
[08:22] <niek> Anyone having issues with having Ubuntu randomly crash back to the login screen while running Steam?
[08:22] <niek> I've only noticed this issue happening while Steam is running, so that's the only thing I've been able to correlate it with thus far.
[08:22] <niek> It's been since I'm running +1 on this machine.
[21:12] <soee> guy is it known that lamp-server^ install fails in Wily due to dependencies ?