[07:32] <mariano> Is it possible to install the newest stable versions of kde apps (i.e. okular) on xubuntu 14.04?
[07:38] <knome> mariano, everything that is in the 14.04 repositories is available for you
[07:39] <mariano> So the newer versions of okular for example are out of the question?
[07:40] <knome> if they are in a PPA, or if you want to build them, then sure, you can do that; but then you are officially without support for packages affected
[07:41] <knome> you might want to ask #kubuntu since this has more to do with kde packages and the ubuntu base than xubuntu
[07:42] <mariano> Sorry I'm still learning about linux, so every time I install a package that is not in the software center, I'm officially without support for the packages affected?
[07:42] <knome> pretty much so, yes.
[07:42] <mariano> ah ok
[07:42] <mariano> thxs
[07:43] <knome> of course there might be support for those packages from other sources than the ubuntu community support channels, like individuals
[07:43] <knome> and individuals in the ubuntu community are free to support those too
[07:44] <mariano> Cool, makes sense.
[15:00] <xubuntu703> asdf
[16:07] <GeekDude> Can I just dd/WindowsEquivalent the xubuntu 15.04 iso to my flash drive and have it be bootable, or do I need to use a tool such as unetbootin?
[16:22] <GeekDude> well, time to find out
[17:13] <vista> Hey, I am having some trouble with the panel theme ever since I upgraded to 15.04
[17:14] <vista> I have been using Bluebird as my theme
[17:15] <vista> ever since I updated, the panel indicator buttons look like this: http://puu.sh/jLKqV/f8d3e35a85.png
[17:15] <vista> I have checked some other themes, some do exhibit this problem as well, some don't.
[17:16] <vista> (Orion and Bluebird and Raleigh have the problem, Adwaita, Greybird, High Contrast don't)
[18:59] <wub_wub> Hi guys, does anyone have tips on how to try and solve xubuntu failing to suspend automatically - I'm getting this: http://i.imgur.com/Kq8eONi.png (15.04) I've tried few solutions I found online, but nothing worked so far.
[19:49] <xubuntu62w> I need help installing xubuntu onto a usb
[19:50] <ObrienDave> run live DVD, install to USB
[19:50] <ObrienDave> i have several ;P
[19:51] <xubuntu62w> I have installed through live CD and partitioned properly. However when i boot up all i get is black screen. If i hold shift for GRUB menu all i get is GRUB loading
[19:52] <ObrienDave> booting from HD or USB stick?
[19:52] <xubuntu62w> USB
[19:52] <ObrienDave> probably bad USB stick, try another
[19:53] <xubuntu62w> Brand New San Disk Cruzer 16gb...No good?
[19:53] <ObrienDave> should work
[19:55] <xubuntu62w> its having a problem booting up not sure why i cant load GRUB menu
[19:55] <xubuntu62w> Where am i going wrong here?
[20:00] <xubuntu62w> Any help? been troubleshooting for days and can't seem to figure it out
[20:02] <ObrienDave> !nomodeset
[20:05] <flocculant> xubuntu62w: did you install grub to the USB when you installed? you would have needed to use the something else option at partition stage
[20:09] <xubuntu62w> I used the something else option when installing and i believed i partitioned correctly but what do you mean by installing GRUB?
[20:09] <ObrienDave> you have to install GURB to the USB in order for it to boot
[20:10] <xubuntu62w> How would i go about that?
[20:10] <xubuntu62w> GRUB isn't installed during the xubuntu installation?
[20:10] <ObrienDave> it's an option when you run the installer
[20:11] <ObrienDave> it asks where you want to install GURB
[20:11] <flocculant> well not quite - it assumes sda - you need to specify if somewhere else
[20:11] <ObrienDave> still an option where to install ;P
[20:12] <flocculant> regardless of that wording - it does NOT ask you where to install
[20:12] <ObrienDave> *blinks*
[20:13] <xubuntu62w> Is GRUB the same as location for device boot loader?
[20:13] <ObrienDave> yes
[20:13] <flocculant> xubuntu62w: yes - but it needs to be the usb - otherwise it will install it to whatever hardrive is in the machine
[20:14] <xubuntu62w> ok then i believe i correctly selected my entire USB
[20:14] <ObrienDave> GRUB = Grand Rational Uniform (Unified) Bootloader
[20:14] <xubuntu62w> not just a specific partition, as xubuntu suggested
[20:15] <xubuntu62w> http://askubuntu.com/questions/343268/how-to-use-manual-partitioning-during-installation
[20:17] <xubuntu62w> Maybe I am messing up on installation as once again when i boot up USB all i get is blank screen and if i press shift I am stuck on the "GRUB loading" black screen
[20:18] <ObrienDave> i would suggest a reinstall to USB
[20:19] <xubuntu62w> I have several times and partitioned properly however; maybe you could suggest a better way to partition and install (16gb Sandisk)
[20:19] <flocculant> have you tried reinstalling grub to the usb?
[20:20] <flocculant> as ObrienDave says - the stick is probably fine - it's certainly big enough
[20:20] <mrkramps> xubuntu62w, are you using EFI bootmanagement?
[20:20] <flocculant> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#via_the_LiveCD_terminal
[20:21] <ObrienDave> i would boot a live ISO, using that, install to USB using entire stick and bootloader to USB
[20:21] <flocculant> mrkramps: good point
[20:22] <xubuntu62w> how would i reinstall grub if i cant access Grub menu to boot nomodeset for terminal?
[20:22] <xubuntu62w> Not quit sure @mrkramps yes i am new to ubuntu i apologize
[20:23] <mrkramps> xubuntu62w, that'S nothing about linux but just depends on the bios used
[20:23] <mrkramps> newer devices do not use the old CMOS anymore, but UEFI
[20:24] <ObrienDave> CMOS is the chip, they don't use BIOS anymore ;P
[20:25] <mrkramps> ObrienDave, so many technical terms =D
[20:25] <ObrienDave> so i've been called on ROFL :)
[20:25] <mrkramps> but yeah, you're right of course
[20:26] <xubuntu62w> Believe i have a live ISO....So reinstall to USB using entire stick and then "bootloader to USB"?
[20:26] <flocculant> xubuntu62w: what sort of machine are you trying to boot this on? and what OS on the machine?
[20:27] <flocculant> yea - hang fire on that for the moment - let's get to the bottom of the uefi thing first :)
[20:27] <ObrienDave> yes, you b=need to know the device ID, sdb, sdc, etc...
[20:27] <ObrienDave> *need
[20:27] <ObrienDave> sda will be your HD. don;t use that one
[20:40] <paperboy58> So I have been hopping from one distro to another and landed  Here on Xubuntu ..I even have two of the kids using it
[20:41] <ObrienDave> welcome to Xubuntu
[20:48] <xubuntu62w> Host OS is Windows 7
[20:49] <mrkramps> xubuntu62w, you device is not older than 3 years?
[20:51] <mrkramps> or yould you tell us the exact model of your pc/notebook?
[20:53] <xubuntu62w> Alienware 14 ALW14-1250sLV 14-Inch Gaming Laptop (i5-4200M, 8GB Memory, 750GB Hard Drive, 1GB NVIDIA GeForce GT 750M, DVD+/-RW, Bluetooth, Windows 7 Home 64-bit)
[20:54] <mrkramps> ok, that's pretty sure UEFI
[20:54] <mrkramps> an when you select "something" else in the installer for manual paritioning you have to consider adding an additional EFI parition
[20:54] <mrkramps> otherwise boot fails
[20:56] <mrkramps> first partition therefore should be about 200 MB fat32 für the EFI boot manager
[20:57] <mrkramps> personally i like 256MB for remembering me of good old times when this was plenty of ram :)
[20:59] <xubuntu62w> how should i exactly partition my 16gb drive
[20:59] <xubuntu62w> just want to get this right
[21:00] <mrkramps> xubuntu62w, for what exactly do you want to use this stick
[21:22] <Faryshta_> how can I know the chip of a card on alsamixer? I get "Intel Haswell HDMI" but i don't know if thats correct
[21:24] <mrkramps> Faryshta_:$ lspci | grep Audio
[21:25] <mrkramps> and HDMI always indicates what is says, HDMI audio
[21:40] <Faryshta_> mrkramps: http://pastie.org/10371169 this is what I get
[21:41] <xangua> How could I hide the clipman icon from the panel? Either the notification or plugin? Xubuntu 15.04
[21:50] <xubuntu62w> mrkramps, im looking to create a live usb OS without touching my Host HD
[21:51] <mrkramps> xubuntu62w, live? or persistent installation?
[21:51] <xubuntu62w> how should i partition exactly? (16gb)
[21:51] <xubuntu62w> whats the difference?
[21:51] <mrkramps> live is like a dvd w/o the possibility to change things permanently
[21:52] <xubuntu62w> Want to save all files to USB and make that the OS hardrive
[21:52] <xubuntu62w> then in that case persistent
[21:52] <ObrienDave> boot live DVD, install to USB
[21:52] <mrkramps> xubuntu62w, is there any reason for manual paritioning?
[21:53] <ObrienDave> i would boot a live ISO, using that, install to USB using entire stick and bootloader to USB
[21:53] <ObrienDave> like i told you 2 hours ago
[21:53] <xubuntu62w> No it doesnt matter all i want to do is completely run and save all files to USB without touching my host
[21:53] <xubuntu62w> @0brienDave i have been doing that for the past 2 hours and it does not boot up.
[21:53] <mrkramps> if you "use entire disk" the installer will automatically create all paritions (EFI, root, swap) you need
[21:54] <ObrienDave> xubuntu62w, try enabling 'legacy USB' in uefi bios
[21:55] <ObrienDave> or turn off 'safeboot' mode
[22:37] <mariano> I get a white screen for about thirty seconds before I get the login screen. Is this normal on xubuntu 15.04? I updated from 14.04 to 14.10, then to 15.04.
[22:49] <pcworld> Would like to fully install xubuntu to USB (persistent) how can i achieve this? would someone like to thouroughly explain how.. Thanks
[22:50] <xangua> !usb
[23:47] <pcworld> Recomendations for partitioning a live USB?
[23:48] <pcworld> Installing xubuntu to my USB (persistent), how should i partition properly?
[23:55] <pcworld> ?
[23:56] <ObrienDave> i would boot a live ISO, using that, install to USB using entire stick and bootloader to USB