[04:49] <FishFiend> can I use a "Linux raid autodetect" as a filesystem for /boot with mdadm raid 1?
[04:56] <broken> questio, I installed something via a deb on 15.04, but its not in the app list on the menu
[04:57] <broken> how can I find the app?
[05:01] <broken> do the apps in the launcher have to be out in by hand if you install via a deb?
[05:17] <t3chguy> Hello, when connecting to a WiFi network my laptop doesn't have the default gateway added even though it gets the correct IP from DHCP; any ideas what I could do/check?
[06:16] <FishFiend> do I have to create a seperate md(0/1/2/3/4/5) for each partition, or can I do a "full drive" raid 1 using mdadm without an LVM?
[06:39] <lordievader> Good morning.
[06:39] <FishFiend> morning
[06:40] <FishFiend> lordievader, can I create one md for an entire drive that contains multiple partitions, or do I need to make one for each partition? (no lvm involved here)
[06:40] <FishFiend> --raid-devices=2 missing /dev/sdb2             vs              --raid-devices=2 missing /dev/sdb
[06:41] <lordievader> FishFiend: Yes, you can partition a raid device.
[06:41] <lordievader> You can see your raid device like any other block device.
[06:42] <FishFiend> can I boot from a partitioned mdadm raid device?
[06:42] <FishFiend> (with /boot inside)
[06:43] <lordievader> Yes.
[06:43] <FishFiend> sounds great. thanks.
[07:43] <FishFiend> Re-reading the partition table failed.: Invalid argument ---------- The kernel still uses the old table. The new table will be used at the next reboot or after you run partprobe(8) or kpartx(8).
[07:44] <FishFiend> is this because I used fdisk and it automatically created a new partition table within the md0? or is this alright and can I ignore it?
[07:44] <FishFiend> i *think* it is alright
[07:45] <lordievader> If the available partitions have changed it is safe to ignore, else run what it says.
[07:45] <FishFiend> going to proceed
[08:59] <rharish> hey folks, I'm using the kubuntu-ci-unstable-daily ppa and I'm on kf5 version 5.11. I need the kf5 version 5.12 and above. how can I get that done, without much pain ?
[09:18] <soee> rharish: on Vivid ?
[11:26] <DroBuddy> Can someone notice or hilight me please? Want to verify that libnotify is working correctly...
[11:26] <DroBuddy> Please, and thank you. :)
[11:27] <lordievader> DroBuddy: ping
[11:27] <DroBuddy> Awesome, worked beautifully lordievader!
[11:27] <DroBuddy> Thanks, again.
[11:27] <lordievader> ;)
[11:28] <DroBuddy> Took half a day, but I got irssi configured tweaked the way I want it. Now, off to setup mutt. ;)
[11:57] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[13:12] <Toolbox> What's the shortcut to minimize all windows?
[13:16] <Walex> Toolbox: that's the one called "show desktop"
[13:16] <Walex> Toolbox: usually it is not a shortcut, it is a button/icon on the kicker
[13:17] <Walex> Toolbox: but you can rebind in global shortcut settings, KWin section.
[13:17] <DroBuddy> wl
[13:18] <Toolbox> Walex: Cheers
[13:21] <Toolbox> Now Kubuntu is perfect :D
[14:20] <Spogos> hello is there a way to disable notifications completely?
[14:25] <hateball> Spogos: You can remove the notification plasmoid from your panel
[14:31] <Spogos> thanks - let me check
[15:32] <Guest16715> hello as I can upgrade to kde 15.08
[15:32] <Guest16715> ?
[15:34] <genii> There is no KDE or Kubuntu version with that version number
[15:35] <Guest16715> http://www.kdeblog.com/kde-aplicaciones-15-08-listo-para-su-descarga.html
[15:36] <genii> That's the KDE Applicacations version
[15:37] <Guest16715> and as I can access it?
[15:42] <genii> Guest16715: I think you will have to wait until Kubuntu 15.10 is released in October
[15:43] <Guest16715> that he says "ready for discharge"?
[15:45] <genii> Guest16715: Kubuntu 15.10  "Wily Werewolf" will have the KDE Applications 15.08 ( or later version) and be available third week of October
[15:46] <Guest16715> ok
[15:46] <genii> October 22
[15:47] <Guest16715> thanks
[16:44] <FemaleEconomy> grub-install: error: diskfilter writes are not supported. (putting grub on a md0 device, currently on /dev/sda... md0 is not mounted
[17:31] <jowield> helo
[17:32] <jowield> hello
[17:32] <jowield> im jowield
[17:32] <jowield> d
[18:34] <misterno> does anyone know how to get firestarter firewall on kubuntu
[18:34] <misterno> i tried this http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Kubuntu:Trusty#Firestarter
[18:34] <misterno> but didn't work
[18:34] <misterno> 404 error not found
[18:35] <misterno> maybe it is too old and not maintained and was removed?
[18:51] <TJ-> Ubuntu has the Uncomplicated FireWall (ufw) package, which has a Gnome/Unity GUI gufw, and also a KDE KControl module ufw-kde
[18:52] <misterno> i installed ufw-kde but it is not clear to me what it does and how to use it
[18:53] <misterno> ufw is command line right?
[18:53] <misterno> is ufw-kde supposed to be gui front end?
[18:53] <TJ-> Yes
[18:53] <misterno> how do i run it i dont see anywhere ufw-kde icon
[18:56] <TJ-> it's part of the system configuration, Network settings, I think
[18:56] <TJ-> there's a screenshot here that seems to show it, too   http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/UFW+KControl+Module?content=137789
[19:03] <misterno> TJ- i dont see it in network settings, im using kubuntu 15.04
[19:04] <misterno> and ufw-kde wasn't even installed by defualt
[19:04] <misterno> i installed it today
[19:04] <misterno> so i don't think it's part
[19:07] <TJ-> UFW is an optional package, from the 'universe' pocket, so it is not a core part of the distro (which is all in 'main')
[19:08] <TJ-> s/UFW/ufw-kde'
[19:09] <TJ-> I've just installed kde-ufw, and I see "Firewall" listed unde "Network and Connectivity" in System Settings
[19:39] <misterno> TJ- this is what i get when i open "connectivity" under network in settings http://s9.postimg.org/f1ew5471b/screenshot_26.png
[19:41] <TJ-> I see http://m.imgur.com/yXHnyEH
[19:42] <misterno> what? you have more settings than i do
[19:43] <misterno> and your gui seems older, you havent upgraded?
[19:44] <TJ-> I'm on 14.04 LTS
[19:44] <misterno> this is 15.04 http://s9.postimg.org/xi9avxmzj/screenshot_26.png
[19:45] <TJ-> Looks like they ripped out a lot!
[19:46] <misterno> well they moved few things around
[19:46] <misterno> but i think also took something out too
[19:46] <misterno> im no expert since i never even used 14.04 :P
[19:48] <TJ-> I guess that is because 15.05 has KDE 5.2 and a lot of stuff got ripped out and hadn't been re-added. That may be why you cannot see the ufw-kde interface
[19:49] <misterno> you mean if ufw-kde interface was coded for too old version of KDE i might not see it?
[19:49] <TJ-> this is the ufw-kde interface: http://m.imgur.com/ZSotYlq
[19:50] <misterno> well anyways, i just wanted to try it and see if theres anything interactive in it
[19:50] <misterno> but it looks like there isnt
[19:50] <misterno> im looking for gui with interactive alerts on outgoing incoming connections
[19:50] <TJ-> I'd not have thought so since otherwise why package it, but kubuntu is a very poor relation with very few developers, so lots of things simply don't get the time and attention
[19:51] <misterno> and from what ive experienced firewalls dont seem like interesting topic for linux users
[19:51] <TJ-> sounds like you want an intrusion detection system. Although with most desktop ubuntu installs there are few services listening on the public interfaces, and therefore input detection isn't necessary
[19:51] <misterno> specifically GUIs
[19:52] <misterno> here is how comodo firewall in windows allows me to setup rules: i set it to manually alert me every time theres a connection being established and at first i block all
[19:52] <misterno> then i decide for every process if im gonna allow it and set a rule
[19:52] <TJ-> If the PC is directly connected to the Internet it might be useful, but if behind a masquerading router (NAT) then nothing external can reach the PC without either explicit port-forwarding in the router, or using uPnP
[19:52] <misterno> after ive gone through initial round of popups i get less and less the  more rules i have
[19:53] <misterno> and then im at the time where only something "new" and "unusual" prompts me
[19:53] <lordievader> I guess ufw-kde isn't ported to Plasma5 yet.
[19:53] <misterno> which is what i like
[19:53] <misterno> it's not about incoming as much as outgoing
[19:54] <misterno> i like to know what is trying to phone out
[19:54] <misterno> hence why i like popups
[19:54] <TJ-> For outgoing connections, locked down systems will often use the facilities of SELinux, but that is a *very* complicated beast and even the experts get confused. I'm not aware of any desktop-based outgoing-connection detect/alert packages
[19:54] <misterno> for example as soon as you come to login the OS is phoning to cannonical
[19:54] <misterno> i like to know these things
[19:54] <misterno> the only reason i know about it is because i have comodo in windows alerting me and im running kubuntu in VM
[19:55] <misterno> and i like that type of interaction
[19:55] <lordievader> Netfilter could log all outgoing connections... but that'll just fill the logs.
[19:55] <misterno> and then i can decide if i want to block only per IP
[19:55] <misterno> which is great
[19:56] <misterno> i could deny only certain IPs for process and still get popups when it tries to connect elsewhere
[19:56] <misterno> and so on
[19:56] <misterno> it's very detailed
[19:56] <TJ-> I'm sure I've seen something for outgoing filtering, but it was more enterprise gateway oriented with a web control interface
[19:56] <misterno> yeah that's not something average user is interested in or even needs
[19:56] <misterno> but some of us really like to know what is phoning out
[19:57] <misterno> if i run an app and it immediately tries to connect online i know two things, could be looking for updates, could be phoning
[19:57] <misterno> if i disable looking for updates and it still tries to connect then i know thers more to it
[19:58] <misterno> it's simplisting and doesn't require huge amounts of knowledge how networking works
[19:58] <misterno> but it satisfies my need to know
[19:58] <lordievader> misterno: You can start by dropping everything and only allowing certain things. That is what I do.
[19:58] <misterno> yea but where is interaction?
[19:58] <misterno> thats the crucial part
[19:59] <misterno> in windows im doing other stuff and just waiting for popup to show when something is trying to communicate
[19:59] <misterno> i dont have to monitor it
[19:59] <lordievader> There ain't, I don't want to be bugged by it. If some rule is missing I'll look in the logs.
[19:59] <misterno> popups and interaction tell me exactly NOW something is trying to communicate to IP xxx via Port xx and so on
[19:59] <misterno> do you wanna make a rule, allow block, just now, always etc
[20:00] <misterno> very easy to setup rules that way
[20:00] <lordievader> I hate that, I'd have a constant pop up.
[20:00] <misterno> or to monitor further the behavior
[20:00] <misterno> well that's individual preference
[20:00] <lordievader> Especially when it does that too for every incomming connection.
[20:01] <misterno> you can set it how you like
[20:01] <misterno> for example
[20:01] <lordievader> I suppose you could rig something up that listens to the log and ask you for what to do.
[20:01] <misterno> do you wanna know just first time it tries to connect?
[20:01] <misterno> then immediately set a rule to allow
[20:01] <lordievader> Should't be too difficult to throw that in ipset.
[20:03] <misterno> but from what ive seen searching on google, it seems most firewall guis are old or not updated
[20:03] <misterno> even weirder is that changelogs dont have dates
[20:03] <misterno> is that usual in linux?
[20:04] <misterno> just have versions without dates?!
[20:04] <misterno> i wanna know if last update was 5 years ago or 1 year ago
[20:05] <misterno> ive seen some websites but they all seem outdated like this one http://www.giacomos.it/iqfire/index.html
[20:06] <misterno> anyways im exhausted with this firewall thingy so im dropping it for now
[20:06] <misterno> thanks anyways
[20:09] <misterno> how long does sudo command remember my credentials?
[20:09] <misterno> like if i type sudo apt update and enter password next sudo command doesnt ask for password anymore
[20:25] <TJ-> The default is 15 minutes. The timestamp can be reset with "sudo --reset-timestamp". The current timestamp and cached config can be deleted with "sudo --remove-timestamp' See "man sudo" and also the text-file "/usr/share/doc/sudo/OPTIONS"
[20:29] <TJ-> misterno: re changelogs. Every Debian/Ubuntu Changelog entry has an exact timestamp. To view the package changelog do "apt-get changelog <package-name>". You can also check the available package versions with "apt-cache policy <package-name>"
[20:45] <DDR> Hi all. I'm having a bit of a problem where I can't boot to the graphical login manager, gdm iirc, with linux 3.19.0-26-generic. 3.19.0-25-generic works fine, however, but I'm a little worried about relying on an older kernel version.
[20:45] <DDR> (Like, it appears to boot up just fine, but I'm stuck with a blank, unresponsive screen.)
[20:59] <pat_rick> DDR, what gpu are you using?
[21:00] <pat_rick> is it, by chance, from AMD?
[21:01] <DDR> Tahiti PRO [Radeon HD 7950/8950 OEM / R9 280]
[21:01] <pat_rick> ok, I think that might be the reason
[21:01] <DDR> It is, indeed, from AMD.
[21:01] <pat_rick> I had the same issue
[21:02] <pat_rick> you are using the fglrx driver?
[21:02] <DDR> Yes.
[21:02] <pat_rick> which version of Kubuntu are you on?
[21:03] <pat_rick> are you using the fglrx from repos or did you install it manually from the AMD site?
[21:03] <DDR> "fglrx_pci", and 15.04 I believe.
[21:03] <DDR> I think I used the drivers from the repos.
[21:03] <DDR> ( /think/. It has been a while.)
[21:04] <pat_rick> so apparently 3.19.0.26 introduced some bug that causes the kernel module for fglrx not to build correctly
[21:05] <DDR> Ah, that'd make sense - I can get to a non-graphical login.
[21:05] <pat_rick> the fglrx from the repos has since been updated, however - sometime last week, I think
[21:05] <pat_rick> you can? for me not even that did work
[21:05] <pat_rick> I could only reach the root console in recovery mode
[21:06] <pat_rick> but if you can reach a text-mode console, you might try sudo apt-get update and then sudo apt-get upgrade
[21:06] <DDR> I got it to work by just using the old version of the kernel.
[21:06] <pat_rick> if you are lucky it will download the updated fglrx and install it for the 3.19.0.26 kernel
[21:07] <pat_rick> ah, I see, but not in 3.19.0.26?
[21:07] <DDR> Right.
[21:07] <pat_rick> because if you boot in 3.19.0.25 I guess it won't update the kernel module for the newer one
[21:07] <DDR> 3.19.0-25 still works, so I booted that instead of 3.19.0-26.
[21:07] <pat_rick> hm
[21:08] <pat_rick> I guess you could try 2 things
[21:08] <DDR> Ahhhh. I'll go try .26.
[21:08] <DDR> brb?
[21:08] <pat_rick> good luck
[21:16] <DDR> pat_rick: Worked like a charm. Thank you.
[21:16] <pat_rick> glad if it helped
[21:17] <pat_rick> otherwise you can try to uninstall the 3.19.0.26 kernel, update the system and reinstall it again
[21:17] <pat_rick> but if it works, then it's ok
[21:35] <DDR> :)