[05:45] <deeploop> test
[05:46] <bshah> !test
[05:48] <lordievader> Good morning.
[07:03] <basse> hi, what is the current workflow on creating plasmoids?  i tried to find some documentation but I have a feeling they are not updated to latest plasma
[07:04] <basse> also, any visual programs to help me out, or is all the UI stuff have to be writting by hand?
[07:58] <Guest31962> good morning
[07:58] <soee> Good mornign  Guest31962
[07:59] <Guest31962> i need help to  install kubuntu 15.04 in dual boot with seven . The first os is seven
[08:00] <lordievader> Guest31962: What is the problem?
[08:01] <Guest31962> it is the partionning
[08:01] <lordievader> Guest31962: Does the option 'side by side' (or something along those lines) show?
[08:03] <soee> you can alsways use partition manager in Windows to resize current one and free some space. Than use this free space during Kubuntu install to create partitions you want
[08:03] <Guest31962> i cant use a art of my drive to install
[08:03] <soee> i suggest atleast 2 partitions for Kubuntu. One for / and one for home/
[08:03] <Guest31962> ok
[08:24] <kubuntu_> map
[09:53] <sonne> greetings!
[09:53] <sonne> is there a way to show more than dots on the battery indicator on latest kubuntu? i'd very much like to have battery percentage there
[09:58] <LjL-Alps> doubtful... but you just need to hover to get percentage
[09:59] <sonne> i saw that but it's slightly annoying.. it's also odd, every DE i remember from the last 15 years allowed you to select what to show in the battery indicator :P
[10:09] <rharish> soee: around ?
[10:09] <soee> rharish: yup
[10:09] <rharish> hey, replying to your question
[10:09] <rharish> 2:48 PM <soee> rharish: on Vivid ?
[10:09] <rharish> yes, on Vivid :-)
[10:10] <rharish> 2:29 PM <rharish> hey folks, I'm using the kubuntu-ci-unstable-daily ppa and I'm on kf5 version 5.11. I need the kf5 version 5.12 and above. how can I get that done, without much pain ?
[10:10] <rharish> soee: ^ remember ?
[10:10] <soee> hmm arent Frameworks 5.12 backported to vivd ?
[10:11] <soee> rharish: yes they are in backports ppa: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/backports?field.series_filter=vivid
[10:11] <rharish> idk :\
[10:11] <soee> jsut add backports and update system
[10:11] <rharish> what about 5.14 ?
[10:11] <soee> 5.14 ?
[10:11] <soee> frameworks ?
[10:11] <rharish> yeah
[10:12] <soee> is it released ?
[10:12] <rharish> yes, kdepim requires it
[10:12] <soee> anyway we have 5.13 in Wily atm, so probably not any soon until 5.14 officaily get into 15.10 or 15.04
[10:13] <soee> sonne: as devs say: "no there isn't and I don't have any plans to change that"
[10:13] <soee> so there won't be % usage in Plamsa 5
[10:13] <soee> *Plasma 5
[10:14] <rharish> % usage ? of what ?
[10:14] <soee> battery
[10:14] <rharish> oh
[10:15] <rharish> soee: thanks, for the moment I can do with 5.12, I think :-)
[10:15] <soee> :)
[10:17] <soee> i'm not sure why you using this ppa
[10:17] <soee> it has old Plasma and in backports you have 5.3.2
[10:18] <sonne> soee, i see
[10:20] <sonne> hm.. what is kubuntu's software center?
[10:20] <rharish> soee: can I keep both the ppa's or remove the current and add the backports ppa ?
[10:20] <sonne> for software sources and the such
[10:20] <rharish> sonne: isn't it Muon Discover ?
[10:21] <sonne> ah, that's why it showed up on suggestions :P
[10:21] <soee> rharish: i can't tell how it will work tbh.
[10:21] <soee> i would ppa-purge unstable first
[10:21] <soee> than add backports and dist-upgrade
[10:21] <sonne> the name doesn't really remind of packages, i thought it was a false positive :D
[10:22] <sonne> cheers
[10:22] <rharish> soee: okay
[11:02] <superprower> Hi. I'm just installed Kubuntu, then i rebooted, loged in, then i rebooted again and now i'm stuck on splash screen - load bar is full, i can move cursor, but nothing happens. help, please
[11:05] <superprower> oh
[11:05] <superprower> i pressed something and login screen appeared
[11:05] <superprower> wtf..
[11:05] <superprower> i guess it was some F button of something close to F7
[11:08] <nishikino-maki> Fedora22 Bloken(dead by update something...) SUSE Bloken (dead by update the Tumbleweed version) Debian BLOKEN!(dead by nVIDIA driver and forget blacklist nonveau)
[11:08] <superprower> but screen is black... i can se only cursor
[11:08] <superprower> T_T
[11:09] <superprower> I'm gonna to reinstall system..
[11:09] <soee> nishikino-maki: what nvidia driver ?
[11:09] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:09] <nishikino-maki> nVIDIA video card driver(non-free)
[11:14] <soee> are you sure you are using version that supports your gpu ?
[11:15] <nishikino-maki> 340.xx not support GT430?
[11:16] <soee> it does, just wanted to make sure :)
[11:16] <soee> nishikino-maki: so Kubuntu works for you
[11:16] <soee> ?
[11:22] <nishikino-maki> now i using LIVECD...
[11:23] <hateball> You have to reboot after installing proprietary drivers, so that wont work so good on a livecd
[11:27] <nishikino-maki> idk why most linux using 3.1x.x kernel not using 4.x kernel my paint tablet working only on 4.x+ kernel...
[11:30] <hateball> It is possible to use backported kernels
[11:33] <soee> nishikino-maki: current development version uf Ubuntu/Kubuntu uses 4.1
[11:35] <nishikino-maki> if time is in 2014.8 or 2014.12?
[11:36] <solo__> Всем привет
[11:36] <Guest95560> Hello folks, I just tried installing Kubuntu on my computer. While booting the Live USB Stick works just fine, after the installation completed successfullz I just see a black screen with a white underscore blinking for about 1 min, I were uncertain whether thats normal_
[11:36] <Guest95560> *?
[11:36] <soee> solo__: !ru
[11:37] <soee> Guest95560: no it is not normal
[11:37] <Guest95560> soee, welp, thanks for confirming at least. Any ideas what I could try? I tried installing with LVM and without first of all
[11:37] <Guest95560> I now booted the Live USB again
[11:38] <soee> lordievader: ^ any idea
[11:39] <Guest95560> Maybe as notice, its possible the SSD is fautly, but even then I would like to confirm that. Its a new SSD 850 Pro from Samsung
[11:39] <Guest95560> *never used before, so I cannot confirm whether thats the problem or not
[11:40] <solo__> Somebody faced with the problem of installing metatrader 4 Wine?
[11:40] <hateball> Guest95560: you may want to boot with ncq disabled for that drive
[11:41] <Guest95560> hateball, I assume one is doing that in the BIOS?
[11:41] <hateball> Guest95560: see this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1338706
[11:41] <hateball> Guest95560: it's done on the grub boot
[11:42] <Guest95560> brb
[11:42] <hateball> Guest95560: basically just add "libata.force=noncq" to the bootline
[11:45] <Guest95560> hateball, thanks I will trz that
[11:46] <hateball> Guest95560: if that works, you can add it to your default grub config options, so new kernel updates will generate a proper bootline
[11:46] <hateball> it *should* be blacklisted already in some update afaik, but who knows
[11:47]  * BluesKaj makes a noyr to avoid the Samsung SSD 840
[11:47] <BluesKaj> err note even
[11:48] <Guest95560> hateball, before trying that, anyway confirm the OS got installed proper?
[11:48] <Guest95560> I can mount the harddrive
[11:48] <Guest95560> Then mazbe chroot it ?
[11:49] <Guest95560> ...or was that rather a stupid thought? :D
[11:50] <hateball> BluesKaj: well they work fine once you disable ncq, nothing you notice in real world use
[11:50] <hateball> and this is only on EVO models afaik, got a Pro in this machine and it behaves
[11:50] <Guest95560> hateball: Mine is also a pro
[11:50] <Guest95560> idk if i mentioned it
[11:51] <hateball> Guest95560: ummm... sure there are several ways, but why not just edit grub and add that line ? you'll see soon enough
[11:51] <hateball> yes 850 has the same firmware stuff
[11:51] <Guest95560> Meh, true. brb. :)
[11:51] <hateball> anyhow this has all been patched upstream so I think in 4.1.x that will be in 15.10 it will all be solved
[12:07] <kubuntu_> Here we are again, I think grub might be broken.
[12:07] <kubuntu_> Since I cannot get into the grub menu holding shift at boot time
[12:08] <hateball> kubuntu_: you could liveboot and mount the system, edit grub.cfg and add the desired line
[12:10] <kubuntu_> Okay, now I am really confused. I did exactly that, at least I thought so.
[12:11] <kubuntu_> However, after restarting to the live disk, the file looks again like the last time?
[12:12] <kubuntu_> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash" added to this line the libata.force=noncq
[12:23] <Schalla> hateball: Thanks for your help, after reinstalling grub, adding the config line everything seems to work now.
[12:23] <Schalla> :)
[12:25] <hateball> Schalla: cool
[12:26] <hateball> Schalla: remember to edit /etc/default/grub also
[12:26] <Schalla> Did so
[12:26] <hateball> or update-grub will break
[12:26] <hateball> :)
[12:26] <Schalla> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash libata.force=noncq"
[12:26] <Schalla> ^thats my /etc/default/grub atm
[12:26] <Schalla> (Already booted the System on Disk)
[12:55] <Schalla> Okay, problem 1 solved, lets get to problem 2 x) I got an ASUS DGX 5.1 AudioCard, which is listed in Phonon and Volume Control (Pulse Audio Manager is that IIRC?), but my headphones do not receive any output
[12:55] <Schalla> While the onboard audio works fine
[12:55] <Schalla> Any idea? I googled and found that a too old kernel can be the reason, however, I dont think tahts the case here with a fresh 15.04
[12:59] <Guest96991> Hi !
[13:00] <Guest96991> I'm searching for help :)
[13:01] <lordievader> soee: Sorry, I don't have time to do user support at the moment.
[13:02] <Schalla> Hi Guest96991, just state your issue :) When someone got time and can help they usually will.
[13:02] <Schalla> Regarding my sound problem, changing in AlsaMixer from Stero Headphones FP to Multichannel fixed it
[13:04] <Guest96991> Kk ! I just installed Kubuntu in a dual boot with win10, but the computed always starts on BIOS
[13:04] <Guest96991> Here is the log from repair-boot > http://paste.ubuntu.com/12191126/
[13:08] <BluesKaj> Guest23562:  did you go into the bios and disable secure boot as suggested, seems if you had W8.1 on that machine previous to W10 then you probly have UEFI instead of the standard BIOS, hence your boot problem
[13:08] <BluesKaj> !UEFI
[13:09] <BluesKaj> Guest96991: ^
[13:11] <Guest96991> Indeed i upgraded recently from win8 to win10, but i already have disabled secure boot
[13:11] <BluesKaj> wish the guest nicks were banned and users have to choose a proper nick rather than relying on some default guest with number
[13:12] <BluesKaj> Guest96991: did youread my post about UEFI ?
[13:13] <Guest96991> sry first time irc, didnt found yet how to change nickname ^^, i'm reading your link
[13:14] <BluesKaj> !nick
[13:15] <BluesKaj> !register
[13:15] <MrMore> okay done
[13:33] <MrMore> just read the whole topic, but cant figure out where the prob is
[13:34] <dheidemann> moin
[13:34] <MrMore> i'mma see bios settings
[13:55] <Guest46590> hello
[13:55] <Guest46590> привет
[13:56] <soee> good afternnon Guest46590
[13:56] <Guest46590> в линуксе олень помогите
[13:56] <soee> !ru
[13:56] <soee> !en
[14:01] <pat_rick> hello
[14:02] <pat_rick> does anyone happen to know how to disable active borders in fullscreen applications (games)?
[14:03] <pat_rick> it's a bit annoying that everytime I play a game in fullscreen and move the cursor to one of the corners, the respective command is executed
[14:03] <pat_rick> which is desktop and window overview for me
[14:07] <danielle31> hi all. kmail wont send any of the email in my outbox with no error messages. just stuck on "Online, sending messages in queue". I've tried restarting akonadi and prodding the agent into offline mode using the akonadiconsole. No luck at all. Getting to be a bit urgent now.. :-(
[14:08] <BluesKaj> pat_rick:  system settings>workspace behaviour>screen edges, click on the edge that's not filled and mchoose 'no action"
[14:08] <pat_rick> BluesKaj: hm, that will deactivate it completely, though
[14:09] <pat_rick> I want to use them on the desktop, my problem is that they are active also when I am running fullscreen apps
[14:09] <BluesKaj> yup, sorry i guess I misunderstood you
[14:09] <pat_rick> but maybe that's not possible :(
[14:09] <danielle31> I've also tried removing and re-adding at least 1 SMTP account..
[14:10] <pat_rick> danielle31: are you sure that you have configured it correctly?
[14:10] <BluesKaj> danielle31:  pehaps this question might be answered more quickly in #kde chat
[14:11] <pat_rick> for me something like that usually happens when I've not configured the outgoing server correctly (smtp or imap)
[14:11] <danielle31> pat_rick: It was working fine for the past 3 months
[14:13] <danielle31> According to #kde, "its broken, use evolution". thoughts?
[14:13] <pat_rick> hm, use thunderbird maybe?
[14:14] <pat_rick> of course I have no idea why it might be broken according to #kde, also I'm not using kmail...
[14:14] <pat_rick> maybe there's some actual bug
[14:17] <danielle31> I wonder if there's any roadmap to it being fixed..
[14:17] <danielle31>  is there any cache or settings folder I can delete without removing all of the messages in the outbox?
[14:29] <pat_rick> danielle31: you could look in your home folder under .local maybe
[14:29] <pat_rick> I don't know how kmail stores its settings, but that should be a good start
[14:30] <pat_rick> if you find a kmail folder there, make a backup first
[14:30] <danielle31> thanks pat_rick
[14:30] <pat_rick> but chances are that it will delete the entire mail account
[14:30] <pat_rick> therefore the backup
[14:30] <danielle31> yes I thought so
[16:22] <robotpeter> Hi
[16:23] <robotpeter> Is plasma 5.4 released yet?
[17:06] <Schalla> Hello, last issue I am facing today with my fresh installed kubuntu. I want to mount a ext4 HDD with exec permissions, however,e verything I enter into fstab gets ignored?
[17:06] <Schalla> Sample:
[17:07] <Schalla> https://paste.kde.org/p8lxgnrom
[17:07] <Schalla> (Yes I rebooted /unmounted + mounted)
[17:28] <arthur_> Does anyone is having an issue concerning libkdecoration when upgrading kubuntu with the last backport packages ? On my laptop I m having seg fault for kwin :/
[17:32] <misterno> arthur_ what are the last backport packages
[17:32] <misterno> do you mean plasma 5.3.2?
[17:32] <misterno> you can check, there is app in applications for info
[17:35] <arthur_> Yep
[17:35] <arthur_> My issue is the same as this one https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=796184
[17:36] <arthur_> Yeah thats the one, but I am searching for a workaround here, because it simply crash when I log in
[17:39] <misterno> i didnt have crashes after log in but i had plenty of crashes and seg faults in plasma 5.3.2 that i don't think it's anything unusual for you XD
[17:40] <misterno> for me usually touching those what are they called, not desktops but those other thingies on desktop
[17:41] <misterno> where you put widgets
[17:43] <arthur_> Yeah.. I found workarounds for others but not this one.. It seems that plasma 5.3.2 is not ready for my main desktop at work
[17:44] <misterno> how did you workaround others?
[17:44] <arthur_> Not changing default theme helps a lot
[17:44] <misterno> activities!
[17:44] <misterno> so if i touch activities, add a new one i will get seg faults
[17:44] <misterno> must not touch them
[17:44] <arthur_> Putting nothing on the desktop (shortcut, widget...)
[17:45] <misterno> then if i already have settings open and im in one of settings windows, and i try to open settings again, i think i will have seg faults too
[17:45] <misterno> so i just learned not to do these things and im mostly without crashes now
[17:45] <arthur_> Are you using breeze dark theme ?
[17:45] <misterno> i actually have widgets on desktop and wok ok
[17:45] <misterno> im using default breeze theme
[17:46] <misterno> the light one i think
[17:46] <misterno> is dark one causing problems?
[17:47] <arthur_> Not sure, I remember having the issue with libkdecoration when using the dark one (the error points breezedecoration.so)
[17:48] <Schalla> Does Kubuntu auto mount HDDs? I simply cannot find the reason why my ext4 partition doesnt get mounted witht eh defined options
[17:48] <Schalla> Extract of fstab: https://paste.kde.org/p8lxgnrom
[17:48] <arthur_> Now I am just running kubuntu 15.04 without any backport packages
[17:50] <arthur_> @Schalla Do you have any error on boot ?
[17:50] <misterno> arthur_ how do you have plasma 5.3.2 then if no backports
[17:51] <TJ-> Schalla: it is mounted with the options you gave :)
[17:51] <arthur_> I was running kubuntu with plasma 5.3.2 but then I downgraded to the default plasma on 15.04
[17:52] <misterno> any reason why?
[17:52] <TJ-> Schalla: usually the kernel (via /proc/mounts) doesn't report the *default* values of options, only the non-default. E.g. if you changed to "nosuid" you'd see it reported
[17:52] <misterno> maybe that also plays a role in your crashes
[17:53] <Schalla> TJ-: Hu?
[17:53] <Schalla> Ah
[17:53] <Schalla> arthur_ TJ- No my error is that steam complains that the partition is mounted as non-exec
[17:54] <arthur_> Yeah, as I was saying my error with libkdecoration shows up on log in (when I was running plasma 5.3.2) but then I reinstalled Kubuntu from scratch and it just works but I am searching for a way to get it working with the lastest plasma
[17:54] <Schalla> ...but got an idea... sec
[17:54] <TJ-> Schalla: have you tried executing a binary or shell script from that mountpoint manually?
[17:58] <Schalla> TJ-: Yeah works fine, just wonderfing about the steam error then
[17:58] <Schalla> but its steam, so, well, nothing to wonder.
[18:01] <TJ-> Schalla: can you run it under 'strace' and identify the problem? It might actually be trying to execute from some other location (e.g. /tmp/) and mis-reporting the issue
[18:02] <Schalla> https://paste.kde.org/pzakpz37z
[18:02] <Schalla> ^So it got all falgs set as executable
[18:02] <Schalla> and yeah, will run strace
[18:04] <TJ-> Schalla: that missing shared object is in the "libtcmalloc-minimal4" package
[18:05] <Schalla> TJ-: Well but steam doesnt start those files
[18:05] <Schalla> it refusers to add my library folder itself
[18:05] <Schalla> because the partition is mounted without exec permissions (so it says)
[18:05] <Schalla> but that is false
[18:09] <Schalla> ....
[18:09] <Schalla> I got an idea.
[18:10] <Schalla> Wow, that's sad. For some reason it works now once I change the folder name from "SteamLibrary" which contained "SteamApps" to "steamapps"
[18:10] <Schalla> Why? Idk.
[18:11] <Schalla> It worked before on Linux Mint fine, same partition, same FS
[18:11] <Schalla> access("/media/LinuxData/SteamLibrary/steamapps", F_OK) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
[18:11] <Schalla> Thanks for the idea TJ-, was a good one with strace. Forget that way too often.
[18:15] <tarator> Hi everybody, is Plasma 5.4 backported to Kubuntu 15.04?
[18:20] <arthur_> According to the website no
[18:21] <soee> tarator: no, it is not even ready for Wily
[18:21] <soee> it will be first packaged for Wily, than probably backported to vivid
[18:49] <misterno> i was messing with themes, downloading new ones and now my default breeze theme (light one) is messed up
[18:49] <misterno> how do i restore default themes?
[18:58] <mparillo> System Settings > Workspace Theme > Defaults does not work? I never tried it myself.
[19:08] <misterno> i tried defaults but it only selects default theme, but that default theme is messed up so no it doesn't help, i need to somehow reinstall default themes to fix them
[19:10] <soee> check color scheme also
[19:15] <misterno> im getting this error now http://s9.postimg.org/llhobgl27/screenshot_32.png
[19:15] <misterno> error during last KDE upgrade leaving an orphaned control moduel
[19:16] <misterno> you have old third party modules lying around
[19:16] <misterno> how do i go about fixing it
[19:17] <misterno> if themes can mess up system like this, then why do they offer them to download
[19:17] <misterno> why don't they make strict limits which are plasma 5 compatible themes that can't mess this up
[19:26] <soee> misterno: what did you do before this message showed there ?
[19:26] <misterno> sudo apt purge breeze then sudo apt install breeze
[19:27] <soee> uhm
[19:28] <misterno> and before that i was installing different themes from settings downloading new ones
[19:29] <misterno> now ive managed to do this http://s9.postimg.org/61evyo0bj/screenshot_33.png
[19:29] <misterno> i did mv ~/.kde ~/.kde.old
[19:29] <misterno> and after logout this happened
[19:29] <misterno> then i did backwards
[19:30] <soee> sudo apt-get install --reinstall kubuntu-desktop maybe ?
[19:30] <misterno> but still it's this error after logout
[19:30] <misterno> oh didnt know there is reinstall command
[19:30] <misterno> ill try now
[19:30] <soee> same with plasma-desktop
[19:33] <misterno> lets see
[19:34] <misterno> woohoo that solved it, i got back old themes and no errors now
[19:34] <misterno> thanks
[19:34] <misterno> :)
[19:34] <soee> :)
[19:35] <misterno> didnt know about --reinstall
[19:35] <misterno> thats why i tried that purge
[19:35] <soee> now you know :)
[20:54] <garog> hello, any idea when kubuntu will ship plasma 5.4 for 15.04 ?
[21:21] <Okitain> garog: I'd suggest you get on kubuntu's mailing list