| Laney | morning! | 08:01 |
|---|---|---|
| willcooke | morning! | 08:01 |
| didrocks | hey Laney, willcooke | 08:01 |
| pitti | hey Laney, how are you? | 08:03 |
| * pitti waves to willcooke | 08:03 | |
| pitti | bonjour didrocks, comment ça va ? je ne toi vois pas ce matin | 08:04 |
| Laney | hey pitti, doing good thanks! | 08:04 |
| Laney | you? | 08:04 |
| pitti | didrocks: s/toi/te/ (je crois) | 08:04 |
| didrocks | good morning pitti, oh, I forgot to say hi here :) | 08:04 |
| seb128 | good morning desktopers | 08:10 |
| seb128 | hey Laney willcooke didrocks pitti | 08:10 |
| didrocks | re seb128 | 08:10 |
| pitti | bonjour seb128 ! | 08:10 |
| tseliot | Laney: hi, thanks for the review. I've just made the last few changes you recommended. How shall I proceed? Shall I merge the branches or upload? (I think last time somebody did the former) | 08:24 |
| Laney | tseliot: Can you use the train? | 08:24 |
| tseliot | Laney: is that a trick question? :P What is it? | 08:25 |
| Laney | CI train | 08:25 |
| tseliot | Laney: I've never used that | 08:26 |
| Laney | tseliot: ok, one second | 08:31 |
| Laney | tseliot: can you add a commit message to the MP please? | 09:06 |
| tseliot | Laney: sure. I'll do it for both requests | 09:06 |
| Laney | thanks | 09:07 |
| larsu | hi Laney! | 09:07 |
| Laney | hey larsu! | 09:08 |
| Laney | what's up? | 09:08 |
| larsu | tired :) | 09:08 |
| larsu | you? | 09:08 |
| tseliot | Laney: done | 09:08 |
| Laney | feeling a bit like I'm juggling things | 09:08 |
| Laney | climbed last night, felt like ages since I went before that | 09:08 |
| Laney | \m/ STRONG \m/ | 09:08 |
| Laney | tseliot: it's going to turn up in https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/landing-009/+packages (wily) and https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/landing-028/+packages (trusty) soon | 09:13 |
| Laney | please test a bit and then I can hit the button to upload | 09:13 |
| tseliot | Laney: ok, thanks | 09:14 |
| robert_ancell | seb128, bug 1488431 | 09:17 |
| ubot5 | bug 1488431 in mir (Ubuntu) "Clients fail to create surfaces when using Mir server in compositor mode" [Critical,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1488431 | 09:17 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, trying | 09:17 |
| robert_ancell | alan_g, can you confirm if the above bug matches what we discussed yesterday? | 09:18 |
| robert_ancell | ChrisTownsend, could you also confirm if the above bug is working fine on your system? | 09:19 |
| larsu | Laney, do we have a branch for gedit 3.16 packaging somwhere? | 09:32 |
| * larsu needs to add some patches | 09:33 | |
| Laney | larsu: I've never worked on that | 09:33 |
| larsu | oh, so I guess not, then | 09:33 |
| Laney | Unless you did before | 09:33 |
| Laney | Ubuntu GNOME probably have something | 09:33 |
| larsu | I didn't - maybe darkxst? | 09:33 |
| seb128 | larsu, Laney, we might be able to just get the new version with csd and no menubar/toolbar, as long as we push the popdown menu to the hud | 09:35 |
| darkxst | larsu, Laney there should be a gedit 3.16 on gnome3-staging, but it doesnt have the UI patches required | 09:35 |
| larsu | seb128, awesome! | 09:35 |
| larsu | darkxst, no branch? | 09:35 |
| seb128 | larsu, can we push the menu content to the hud easily? | 09:35 |
| darkxst | larsu, no branches for the ppa | 09:35 |
| darkxst | been trying to set that up for the last year ;( but its a lot of work no one want to do ;( | 09:36 |
| Laney | seb128: oh? | 09:36 |
| larsu | seb128, dunno about the state of the hud to be honest. We definitely can if we expose it as a menu on the bus, but then it would also appear in the menu bar | 09:36 |
| Laney | you mean the hud would become the primary interface? | 09:37 |
| seb128 | Laney, yeah, I was going to bring news from the meeting we just had on the other channel before the discuss just went weird | 09:37 |
| Laney | sorry :( | 09:37 |
| seb128 | no worry | 09:37 |
| * seb128 needs some coffee | 09:38 | |
| seb128 | brb | 09:38 |
| larsu | darkxst, ok, I'll work on that, then | 09:38 |
| larsu | seb128, enjoy! | 09:38 |
| seb128 | larsu, thanks ;-) | 09:38 |
| larsu | seb128, grab some cookies as well (the ginger ones) | 09:38 |
| * larsu misses those | 09:38 | |
| seb128 | short bread ftw! | 09:38 |
| * larsu tries to open the hud | 09:45 | |
| Laney | seb128: can you summarise this meeting? | 09:45 |
| larsu | oh wow, somebody put it on Shift+Alt+? ... | 09:46 |
| Laney | you probably | 09:46 |
| larsu | never would I tamper with my system in such a way! | 09:47 |
| Laney | ha | 09:47 |
| darkxst | larsu, ok thanks, I'm sick as tonight, should probably try and eat something then sleep | 09:49 |
| seb128 | Laney, meeting is basically "design is giving a principle +1 on using upstream UI with csd/no menubar, as long as hud keeps working/showing the menu items since that's a feature a part of our userbase like and give us good vibes" | 09:50 |
| darkxst | larsu, 3.16 packages are probably still in vivid pocket also | 09:50 |
| Laney | seb128: hoooooooly shit! | 09:50 |
| seb128 | Laney, willc needs to demo what gedit 3.16 looks like to uper instances for validations | 09:51 |
| seb128 | but in principle john thinks it should be ok | 09:51 |
| Laney | I guess show the appmenu up top? | 09:51 |
| seb128 | Laney, larsu, we also need to fix that fact that csd windows under unity7 have solid square corners | 09:51 |
| seb128 | Laney, no, we can do without menubar | 09:52 |
| seb128 | if that's what the upstream design of the app is | 09:52 |
| seb128 | and save us maintainance work | 09:52 |
| Laney | appmenu is the single item | 09:52 |
| Laney | the app name | 09:52 |
| seb128 | oh | 09:52 |
| seb128 | I guess then yes | 09:52 |
| Laney | currently we get (e.g.) "Disks Disks" | 09:52 |
| Laney | where the second one is the menu | 09:52 |
| seb128 | right | 09:52 |
| Laney | try XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP=GNOME gnome-disks | 09:52 |
| Laney | should fix that I think | 09:53 |
| seb128 | good point | 09:53 |
| darkxst | the app-menu would normally fallback to a button in the CSD's | 09:53 |
| Laney | I think we could show it probably | 09:53 |
| Laney | maybe not in the LIM case? | 09:53 |
| Laney | something to think about | 09:53 |
| darkxst | (for non-shell) | 09:53 |
| Laney | add a "menu here" triangle if there is one | 09:53 |
| Laney | and get unity to show it under the title | 09:53 |
| Laney | or something | 09:54 |
| larsu | seb128, there's a compiz issue in there :/ | 09:54 |
| Laney | anyway, man, this is cool in principle | 09:54 |
| larsu | I'll investigate again, but from what I remember switching to argb windows broke shadows or something | 09:54 |
| larsu | but ... I'm hesitant to ask .... what about LIM? | 09:54 |
| Laney | I think just make it do ShellShowsAppMenu false | 09:55 |
| seb128 | larsu, well, LIM only applies when there is a menubar | 09:55 |
| seb128 | no menubar, nothing to include in the decoration | 09:55 |
| seb128 | those apps would be like apps without menus | 09:55 |
| larsu | seb128, many apps export a menubar even with csd | 09:55 |
| larsu | we patched them upstream | 09:55 |
| larsu | it's a gtk feature, even | 09:55 |
| darkxst | and on a different note, are there really still framebuffers that only support 4bpp (for plymouth) or is that just ancient cruft? | 09:55 |
| larsu | seb128, which also gives us perfect hud integration | 09:56 |
| darkxst | i.e 16 colours | 09:56 |
| seb128 | larsu, hum, unsure what to do with those, no easy reply | 09:56 |
| Laney | hide it with lim on :) | 09:56 |
| larsu | seb128, ok, thanks | 09:56 |
| larsu | Laney, or show the gear menu? | 09:56 |
| seb128 | does it mean hud becomes the only way to access some items? | 09:56 |
| seb128 | that's not good if that's the case | 09:56 |
| Laney | larsu: Isn't that ShellShowsAppMenu false? | 09:57 |
| larsu | Laney, yes, and ShellShowsMenubar. But LIM needs those set for other apps | 09:58 |
| larsu | seb128, no, hud only for things that are also in the menu or the ui, I think | 09:58 |
| seb128 | good | 09:59 |
| Laney | I forgot the details maybe | 09:59 |
| darkxst | larsu app-menu | 10:20 |
| larsu | ? | 10:20 |
| darkxst | uses the same format as all other menu ui | 10:20 |
| darkxst | xml in most cases | 10:20 |
| larsu | not sure what your point is | 10:21 |
| darkxst | I don't see why LIM wouldnt work with the app-menu's | 10:22 |
| larsu | oh! No, it works fine with app menus, even right now | 10:22 |
| larsu | the problem is that LIM draws menus in the title bars, which don't exist for CSD apps | 10:23 |
| darkxst | larsu, ok, don't worry about me, I am too sick to really even think atm, bloody food poisoning or so :( | 10:24 |
| larsu | darkxst, no worries :) Hope you get better soon! | 10:24 |
| larsu | jgdx, re bug #1488087, which type would you like to see that translated to? QList<QPair<QString, QString>> ? | 10:30 |
| ubot5 | bug 1488087 in gsettings-qt "Lack of support for signature “a(ss)”" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1488087 | 10:30 |
| Laney | second ass patch? | 10:31 |
| * darkxst out for the night, hoping a solid sleep will help a bit | 10:31 | |
| larsu | ya :/ | 10:31 |
| anpok | robert_ancell: you could also try unity-system-compositor-spinner | 10:31 |
| Laney | larsu: welcome back to work! *thud* | 10:32 |
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| larsu | haha | 10:32 |
| larsu | thanks :) | 10:32 |
| jgdx | larsu, :) | 10:33 |
| anpok | but the average client -o -f should be the same.. | 10:33 |
| jgdx | larsu, works for me | 10:33 |
| larsu | jgdx, not sure if that is idiomatic qt, but seems like the closest match to me | 10:33 |
| Laney | do they have a tuple type? | 10:33 |
| jgdx | tuple seems to be qtpair | 10:34 |
| Laney | seems weird to only make this work for pairs | 10:34 |
| larsu | ya, QPair | 10:34 |
| larsu | how do you mean? | 10:34 |
| larsu | pair is their tuple, no? | 10:34 |
| Laney | a(ss) good a(sss) bad? | 10:34 |
| larsu | asss is a typo | 10:34 |
| larsu | but you have a good point | 10:35 |
| jgdx | QList<QStringList> then? That also seems weird. | 10:35 |
| larsu | but then, next up will be a(si) | 10:35 |
| larsu | maybe it's best to do what qtdbus does | 10:36 |
| jgdx | larsu, could pass it as a variant | 10:36 |
| larsu | jgdx, the question what to put in there still remains :) | 10:36 |
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| Laney | they make you give a struct IIRC | 10:37 |
| larsu | ah, and you have to register that with their type system? | 10:38 |
| Laney | yeah | 10:38 |
| Laney | with the streaming operators | 10:38 |
| larsu | but how do they know where to put the values? | 10:38 |
| larsu | ah. right. | 10:38 |
| Laney | otherwise you can nest QPairs | 10:39 |
| Laney | which is a bit grim | 10:40 |
| larsu | I think I'm going to special case this to QList<QPair<QString, QString>> | 10:41 |
| larsu | it's ugly, but unlikely that we'll see a(sss) | 10:41 |
| Laney | haha | 10:41 |
| Laney | I understand that | 10:41 |
| larsu | and when we do, we might want to think about doing something more elaborate | 10:41 |
| * larsu wishes QVariant were more like GVariant | 10:41 | |
| larsu | qvariant doesn't seem to know about qpait | 10:53 |
| larsu | *qpair | 10:53 |
| larsu | ah, because it would need to know about all type combinations | 10:56 |
| larsu | if I declare my own metatype, will that be possible to use from within qml? | 10:57 |
| * larsu guesses no and goes for QList<QStringList> instead | 10:57 | |
| alan_g | robert_ancell: I thought we were discussing nested mir sessions with a client? | 11:04 |
| Laney | larsu: http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qmetatype.html#Q_DECLARE_METATYPE says QPair is automatically registered | 11:05 |
| larsu | Laney, the compiler told me otherwise... | 11:05 |
| alan_g | The system-compositor only expects fullscreen surfaces (associated with displays) | 11:05 |
| Laney | :-o | 11:05 |
| * Laney is on phone to Dell again | 11:18 | |
| Laney | :-/ | 11:18 |
| larsu | computer broken? | 11:18 |
| larsu | jgdx, Laney, branch is up - reviews appreciated | 11:21 |
| Laney | not broken, but there is a loose screw inside and the speakers don't work | 11:23 |
| Laney | probably since the last engineer came to replace the keyboard | 11:23 |
| Laney | larsu: link? | 11:24 |
| Laney | never mind | 11:24 |
| larsu | Laney, ugh, annoying! | 11:27 |
| Laney | shows I don't use the speakers very much | 11:28 |
| Laney | this was 3-4 weeks ago | 11:28 |
| Laney | larsu: I feel like you could support any number of 's' now | 11:28 |
| Laney | would this be too annoying? | 11:28 |
| larsu | not really, but it would make all of this less readable | 11:29 |
| larsu | and I really think this is an exception | 11:30 |
| larsu | and noone needs anything but this for a while | 11:30 |
| Laney | haha | 11:30 |
| larsu | I guess this is about input sources? | 11:30 |
| Laney | you hope :) | 11:30 |
| Laney | I don't have an example | 11:30 |
| Laney | just trying to avoid future work | 11:30 |
| larsu | pretty sure I lobbied for a{sv} when desrt and attente decided this, but there was some reason that didn't work | 11:30 |
| desrt | this was discussed a lot | 11:31 |
| desrt | i think attente even sent a patch to stefw | 11:31 |
| desrt | but it never got reviewed/merged | 11:31 |
| larsu | desrt, making it an a{sv}? | 11:31 |
| desrt | aa{sv} iirc | 11:31 |
| larsu | wasn't there some problem about ordering? | 11:32 |
| larsu | oh wow, that wouldn't have helped us in this case | 11:32 |
| desrt | actually | 11:32 |
| desrt | aa{ss} i think we agreed on | 11:32 |
| * larsu just added a(ss) support to gsettings-qt | 11:32 | |
| desrt | since 'v' is weird here | 11:32 |
| jgdx | larsu, correct | 11:32 |
| desrt | stef was concerned about storing to a keyfile | 11:32 |
| Laney | I just bet that someone will come with a(sss) or a(ssssssssssssssssssssssssSSsssSSsssSSsssSSsssSSssssSSsssSSssSSSsssSSSSssss) in future and you'll need to generalise it anyway | 11:32 |
| Laney | but if you don't care about having to do it then, then whatevs | 11:32 |
| Laney | what's the size == 2 check for? | 11:33 |
| larsu | Laney, ha, there's actually *one* instance: org.gnome.yelp.gschema.xml: <key name="bookmarks" type="a(sss)"> | 11:33 |
| Laney | more worried about phone people adding new random keys | 11:33 |
| larsu | Laney, not crashing. In all other cases we don't crash but return default values (variant.toXXX() returns a default-constructed thing) | 11:33 |
| larsu | and I'm accessing tuple[0] and [1] below | 11:34 |
| larsu | com.ubuntu.notifications.hub uses a(ss) as well | 11:34 |
| larsu | man, I think we might have to go all the way at some point | 11:34 |
| Laney | I bet you will | 11:35 |
| Laney | then you will need to re-load this into your head | 11:35 |
| * desrt swears loudly | 11:35 | |
| larsu | Laney, no, I mean do what qtdbus does and expose every type | 11:35 |
| desrt | inotify is evil. | 11:36 |
| larsu | desrt, burnt fingers? | 11:36 |
| desrt | my new perfect approach has a serious problem :( | 11:36 |
| desrt | i make the assumption that dirs cannot be hard linked, and that's true | 11:36 |
| larsu | s/perfect// | 11:36 |
| desrt | but they can be bind-mounted... | 11:36 |
| desrt | in which case two separate paths can give the same wd, and indeed, do... | 11:36 |
| desrt | which is potentially a bug | 11:37 |
| desrt | since one of those two paths could be unmounted... | 11:37 |
| desrt | ...which, of course, results in no event being sent | 11:37 |
| desrt | grrrrrr | 11:38 |
| larsu | sorry :( | 11:38 |
| desrt | hrm. inotify seems buggy vs. bind mounts. | 11:38 |
| desrt | indeed, it seems that there is absolutely no way to detect when they appear/disappear | 11:39 |
| jgdx | larsu, for convergence we need yelp bookmarks btw plz implenement | 11:39 |
| jgdx | larsu, thank you for the MP. Appreciate it! :) | 11:40 |
| larsu | hah | 11:40 |
| larsu | you're welcome | 11:40 |
| desrt | great. bug filed about this upstream since march 2013 with no reply. | 11:40 |
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| larsu | desrt, fix it! | 11:41 |
| * larsu hides | 11:41 | |
| desrt | long ago i promised myself never to hack on the kernel..... :/ | 11:41 |
| desrt | good times: open nautilus to /mnt, mount -o bind / /mnt, refresh nautilus, umount /mnt, refresh nautilus | 11:43 |
| larsu | manually refreshing works here | 11:44 |
| larsu | of course inotify doesn't | 11:45 |
| larsu | but to be honest, I didn't really expect it to | 11:45 |
| desrt | that's only because you have low expectations already :) | 11:45 |
| larsu | lol | 11:45 |
| desrt | to me it seems obvious that ^R should be completely redundant in nautilus | 11:45 |
| desrt | ie: you only need to use this if there is a bug or misconfiguration somewhere along the way | 11:46 |
| desrt | the one exception i may make (and even i consider this suboptimal) is network filesystems | 11:46 |
| larsu | I agree that this should be the ideal | 11:49 |
| larsu | not saying I don't want this to work, just that I didn't expect it to | 11:49 |
| desrt | :) | 11:49 |
| desrt | well | 11:49 |
| desrt | i guess i can always watch /proc/mounts and respond to that | 11:49 |
| desrt | so it's not 100% hopeless | 11:50 |
| desrt | in fact, both systemd and udisks tell me about this on the system bus, so that's even better | 11:51 |
| * desrt goes back to the drawing board for a moment | 11:52 | |
| larsu | Laney, thanks for the review. Who can take care of landing this? | 11:54 |
| Laney | larsu: I guess jgdx with whatever wants to use it | 11:55 |
| Laney | or kenvandine | 11:55 |
| larsu | cool | 11:56 |
| * larsu is not a fan of this process | 11:56 | |
| * Laney screams | 11:56 | |
| Laney | dear dspam, please learn to learn | 11:57 |
| Laney | getting identical spams and it's not catching them after being trained | 11:57 |
| davmor2 | Laney: are they being marked as spam> | 11:58 |
| Laney | no | 11:58 |
| Laney | I've had it like 10 times now | 11:59 |
| Laney | uh oh | 12:00 |
| willcooke | le sigh. Wifi. | 12:12 |
| larsu | willcooke, office wifi is pretty good, no? | 12:16 |
| willcooke | well, it depends who you ask. | 12:16 |
| larsu | haha | 12:16 |
| willcooke | Most people seem to be ok | 12:16 |
| willcooke | but I'm getting kicked off every 10 mins or so | 12:16 |
| willcooke | *This* is why you don't skimp on the wifi card spec'd in your laptop | 12:17 |
| willcooke | i.e. Broadcom | 12:17 |
| willcooke | vs Intel | 12:17 |
| larsu | ya... | 12:17 |
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| willcooke | I looked at swapping it out | 12:17 |
| Laney | find the cable and guard it jealously | 12:17 |
| willcooke | but I have to dismantle the entire laptop | 12:17 |
| willcooke | which I can't be arsed to do | 12:17 |
| larsu | didn't you have an x220? | 12:18 |
| willcooke | yeah, but I got the cheapo wifi | 12:18 |
| * larsu didn't know you could get them with shitty chips | 12:18 | |
| Laney | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-datetime/+bug/1485659 | 12:18 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1485659 in indicator-datetime (Ubuntu) "Date/time indicator doesn't update after changing time zone" [Low,Confirmed] | 12:18 |
| Laney | iz glib boog | 12:18 |
| larsu | Laney, it is, but indicator-datetime should not be using a file monitor for that | 12:19 |
| larsu | desrt is working on it :) | 12:20 |
| Laney | on what? | 12:20 |
| larsu | file monitoring | 12:20 |
| Laney | I would guess this code existed before timedated | 12:20 |
| larsu | I'm not so sure | 12:21 |
| larsu | it was rewritten once or thrice | 12:21 |
| Laney | probably directly ported though | 12:22 |
| * Laney is going to kill the file monitor | 12:22 | |
| larsu | please do | 12:22 |
| larsu | hm, can I make xchat-gnome not show join/part messages? Very annoying and I won't have my irssi setup for another week or two | 12:23 |
| * larsu could run that locally | 12:23 | |
| larsu | is polari any good? (and packaged?) | 12:23 |
| Laney | irccloud.com? | 12:23 |
| larsu | and I give them my password? | 12:24 |
| Laney | well, yeah, and all your conversations too | 12:26 |
| seb128 | Laney, good catch that tz change to be a glib issue | 12:33 |
| seb128 | I wouldn't have known where to start debugging it | 12:33 |
| Laney | I looked at the code and saw GFileMonitor :P | 12:33 |
| seb128 | :-) | 12:35 |
| seb128 | desssrrtttt | 12:35 |
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| alan_g | robert_ancell: Can we try setting MIR_CLIENT_PLATFORM_LIB to /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/mir/client-platform/mesa.so.3? | 12:59 |
| larsu | did we ever find a solution for the desktop file renaming thing? | 13:05 |
| tseliot | Laney: the packages seems work well here | 13:36 |
| Laney | tseliot: ok cool, will upload shortly | 14:10 |
| Laney | larsu: don't think so, someone needed to own the problem | 14:10 |
| tseliot | Laney: thanks a lot! | 14:10 |
| * Laney lunch | 14:11 | |
| seb128 | Noskcaj, unsure of that's a parole or gstreamer issue but that started with your most recent update, bug #1488494 | 14:14 |
| ubot5 | bug 1488494 in parole (Ubuntu) "/usr/bin/parole:11:handler_unref_R:g_signal_handler_disconnect:parole_gst_shutdown:parole_player_quit:parole_player_stopped" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1488494 | 14:14 |
| larsu | Laney, I think seb128 renamed the gnome-terminal one, right? | 14:14 |
| seb128 | I didn't rename anything | 14:14 |
| larsu | haha | 14:15 |
| larsu | desrt, what about that desktop name map in glib? Still up for it? | 14:15 |
| seb128 | Laney, +1 on using the tz property, but we should also look at the GFileMonitor issue | 14:31 |
| Laney | seb128: ya, I think "we" are already ;-) | 15:00 |
| seb128 | Laney, is there a bug open about it? | 15:01 |
| Laney | upstream | 15:02 |
| seb128 | good | 15:02 |
| seb128 | as look as we keep an eye on it and makes sure he doesn't fall through the cracks ;-) | 15:02 |
| Laney | pretty sure this is related to what desrt is doing right now | 15:04 |
| seb128 | cool | 15:04 |
| Laney | tseliot: someone did it already? | 15:29 |
| tseliot | Laney: did what? | 15:30 |
| Laney | uploaded u-s-d | 15:30 |
| desrt | *cough* | 15:31 |
| * Laney looks around | 15:31 | |
| willcooke | mumble grumble | 15:31 |
| willcooke | wifi | 15:31 |
| willcooke | #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2015-08-25 | 15:31 |
| meetingology | Meeting started Tue Aug 25 15:31:46 2015 UTC. The chair is willcooke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. | 15:31 |
| meetingology | Available commands: action commands idea info link nick | 15:31 |
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| willcooke | Hello everyone! | 15:31 |
| willcooke | Roll call: andyrock (out), attente, desrt, dgadomski, didrocks, fjkong, happyaron (out), hikiko, laney, larsu, qengho, seb128, sweet5hark, themuso (out), tkamppeter, trevino, robert_ancell | 15:32 |
| didrocks | hey | 15:32 |
| qengho | Hi hi | 15:32 |
| hikiko | hello | 15:32 |
| Trevinho | Hello | 15:32 |
| robert_ancell | o/ | 15:32 |
| * Sweet5hark touching down after vacation | 15:32 | |
| larsu | meeting time! | 15:32 |
| desrt | o/ | 15:32 |
| * larsu missed that | 15:32 | |
| dgadomski | hey | 15:32 |
| FJKong | hi | 15:32 |
| Trevinho | larsu: we don't believe you :) | 15:32 |
| Laney | hai | 15:33 |
| willcooke | I think seb128 is in a meeting | 15:33 |
| seb128 | hey (in a meeting yes, trying to follow up/post my update still) | 15:33 |
| larsu | Trevinho, but it's true. ish. | 15:33 |
| willcooke | okay, let's go | 15:33 |
| Trevinho | :) | 15:33 |
| larsu | seb128, you can't schedule *a* meeting over *the* meeting | 15:33 |
| willcooke | #topic andyrock | 15:33 |
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| desrt | larsu: i'm guessing someone else scheduled it :) | 15:34 |
| willcooke | * Investigate on the way compiz sets GL_PROJECTION matrix to properly | 15:34 |
| willcooke | fix bug #1485727 and others compiz glitches. | 15:34 |
| willcooke | * Code reviews | 15:34 |
| larsu | desrt, should be forbidden | 15:34 |
| ubot5 | bug 1485727 in unity (Ubuntu) "Corrupted unity desktop after resizing vbox/vmware window." [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1485727 | 15:34 |
| willcooke | #topic attente | 15:34 |
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| desrt | uh oh | 15:34 |
| desrt | attente is also in london, no? | 15:35 |
| seb128 | yes | 15:35 |
| desrt | (or en route?) | 15:35 |
| Laney | give him the hard stare | 15:35 |
| qengho | a kick under the table | 15:35 |
| attente | proposed a branch for packaging libertine containers in a click package | 15:35 |
| attente | attempt at debugging https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/1481330, no luck | 15:36 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1481330 in xorg-server (Ubuntu) "Xmir crashes when client closes display" [Critical,Confirmed] | 15:36 |
| Laney | bisect it | 15:36 |
| larsu | uh oh | 15:36 |
| attente | D: | 15:36 |
| larsu | poor attente | 15:36 |
| desrt | d:\ gets a bad rap these days | 15:36 |
| desrt | i remember i used to have some good files there | 15:36 |
| attente | looking again at correct menu positioning in gtk-mir | 15:37 |
| attente | (eof) | 15:37 |
| willcooke | thanks attente | 15:37 |
| willcooke | #topic desrt | 15:37 |
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| desrt | - attended debconf. seems they are trying to make it into a meeting-place type of conference and i met lots of interesting glib users there (tails, guile, others) | 15:37 |
| desrt | - hard not to notice all of the inotify bugs lately -- been working on a proper solution for that | 15:37 |
| desrt | <CR><LF>.<CR><LF> | 15:38 |
| larsu | desrt, guile uses glib? interesting... | 15:38 |
| desrt | the maintainer is doing something weird with searching | 15:38 |
| desrt | i think it's not guile itself but something around guile | 15:38 |
| willcooke | thanks desrt | 15:39 |
| desrt | had some nice chats about tokenising chinese... | 15:39 |
| desrt | np. | 15:39 |
| willcooke | #topic dgadomski | 15:39 |
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| dgadomski | hey, there were no new desktop issues reported to me this week, so I was involved in other areas. | 15:39 |
| dgadomski | I just wanted to thank seb128 for sponsoring the fix for bug #1464645. I have the env ready to test it as soon as it hits -proposed. | 15:39 |
| ubot5 | bug 1464645 in gvfs (Ubuntu Trusty) "Samba shares over gvfs do not respect ACL rules" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1464645 | 15:39 |
| robert_ancell | that's 'cause the desktop is perfect | 15:40 |
| dgadomski | EOF, thanks! | 15:40 |
| willcooke | thanks dgadomski | 15:40 |
| willcooke | #topic didrocks | 15:40 |
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| dgadomski | robert_ancell: yes, it is :) | 15:40 |
| didrocks | hey | 15:40 |
| didrocks | Report for the past 2 weeks as was in debconf 2015 and didn't attend last meeting | 15:40 |
| didrocks | * ubuntu make: | 15:40 |
| didrocks | - Released Ubuntu Make 15.08 with scala support, VCs fix and some bug fixes | 15:40 |
| didrocks | - Reviewed/Merged/adapt test VS Code new contributor fix (upstream changed their web page). | 15:40 |
| didrocks | - Fixed some pep8 issues specific to new wily version | 15:40 |
| didrocks | - Some bug triaging and crazy suggestion push backs :) | 15:40 |
| didrocks | - Reviewed another branch for correct exit status from another new contributor (not merged yet) \o/ | 15:41 |
| didrocks | * Developer advocacy, continued to expand the example app with the following items: | 15:41 |
| didrocks | - Finish contenthub usage for share and storing in permanent storage location, implemented the visual part as well | 15:41 |
| didrocks | - Implemented some examples of C++ bindings related to lack of contenthub features (removable of imported elements, listing all attachments for a given object…) | 15:41 |
| didrocks | - Add missing pieces in term of Saving and Restoring | 15:41 |
| didrocks | - Refactoring some heavy javascript manipulation in a worker script + scripted the episod onit | 15:41 |
| didrocks | - Add currency handling (selecting default, post-time changing currency) and handle offline changes through a Picker | 15:41 |
| didrocks | - Fought on testing on the device the app with qmake/cmake as new files deployed in the click package doesn't keep the same file hierarchy. | 15:41 |
| didrocks | - Various error handling, cleanups and cosmetic enhancements | 15:41 |
| didrocks | - Raised still quite some SDK bugs in various part of the stack: Qt/QML, our toolkit, qtcreator, u1db, content-hub… and various workarounded added. | 15:41 |
| didrocks | - Thanks to seb128 to have investigated a restore issue tracked down in content-hub itself | 15:41 |
| didrocks | * Misc: | 15:41 |
| didrocks | - tested bluez5 ppa and report some known issues | 15:41 |
| didrocks | - debconf15, attended to quite some nice talks and 1o1 chats. Will probably resume some systemd work (and help Laney on appstream) | 15:41 |
| didrocks | - Ubuntu Kylin: sogou pre-NEW reviews, some work still needed. Other archive admin duties (NEWing) | 15:41 |
| larsu | dude! Did you sleep? | 15:41 |
| didrocks | larsu: that's a 2 weeks summary with long train quiet hacking :) | 15:41 |
| larsu | ah, got it | 15:42 |
| * larsu likes train hacking | 15:42 | |
| * Trevinho too... on ferry as well :D | 15:43 | |
| willcooke | ou est? | 15:43 |
| willcooke | Let's come back to didrocks | 15:43 |
| willcooke | #topic FJKong | 15:43 |
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| FJKong | 1 update pinyin search db | 15:43 |
| FJKong | 2 support remove not used item | 15:43 |
| FJKong | 3 make scaning more faster | 15:43 |
| === attente is now known as willcooke | ||
| FJKong | 4 remove duplicate item | 15:43 |
| FJKong | all about pinyin thing | 15:44 |
| willcooke | Wifi has killed my connection again | 15:44 |
| willcooke | using attente's computer now\ | 15:44 |
| hikiko | lol | 15:44 |
| robert_ancell | attente is lying in a pool of blood on the floor | 15:44 |
| willcooke | #topic hikiko | 15:44 |
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| hikiko | hi | 15:45 |
| larsu | robert_ancell, that went dark quickly | 15:45 |
| hikiko | wrote compiz helloworld plugin and tutorial: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIfuCJ75gkw still working on this and other tutorials for china, found a nice compiz bug for when I come back: compiz must override glColor with white when it composites the final screen otherwise if someone draws with a color in a plugin, this color will be used in all future compiz buffers that are composited in the fullscreen compiz buffer unless if we expl | 15:45 |
| hikiko | icity call glClearColor(white)... EOF :) | 15:45 |
| willcooke | thx hikiko | 15:45 |
| willcooke | #topic laney | 15:45 |
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| robert_ancell | larsu, this is why I normally live so far from the meetings | 15:45 |
| larsu | haha | 15:45 |
| Laney | • Short normal week due to Debconf | 15:45 |
| Laney | • Package DBus 1.10 RC - in wily now (should be basically the same as the final) | 15:45 |
| Laney | • Find an undeclared ABI break in xpathselect, working to fix that now (landing-019), also had to fix autopilot-gtk tests & get help from autopilot developers to fix some other issues (thanks!) | 15:45 |
| Laney | • Review tseliot's u-s-d branch, help to upload that | 15:45 |
| Laney | • Make freeze go for wily beta 1, hassle people, wrangle ISO tracker, etc etc | 15:45 |
| Laney | • Start to work on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-datetime/+bug/1485659 - seems to work but needs tests | 15:45 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1485659 in indicator-datetime (Ubuntu) "Date/time indicator doesn't update after changing time zone" [Low,In progress] | 15:45 |
| Laney | • SRU new GTK (3.14.15) to vivid | 15:45 |
| Laney | ⚘ | 15:46 |
| willcooke | thx Laney | 15:46 |
| willcooke | #topic larsu | 15:46 |
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| larsu | hey! very short week since I just got back from holidays | 15:46 |
| Laney | * cocktails | 15:46 |
| larsu | caught up on mail/bugmail and such | 15:46 |
| larsu | updated the gedit menubar patch for 3.16 | 15:46 |
| larsu | still some work to do to make it apply to master (and let's hope someone pushes it this cycle) | 15:47 |
| larsu | I'll stay on it | 15:47 |
| larsu | made gsettings-qt support ass | 15:47 |
| larsu | *cough* | 15:47 |
| larsu | a(ss) | 15:47 |
| larsu | and currently in the middle of updating our gedit patches to work with 3.16 | 15:47 |
| larsu | again stumbling on the desktop file renaming problem | 15:48 |
| larsu | desrt, we should do something about that in glib | 15:48 |
| larsu | </larsu> | 15:48 |
| willcooke | thanks larsu | 15:48 |
| willcooke | #topic qengho | 15:48 |
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| qengho | - chromium/ozone/mir work: some more progress. Should be runnable soon. Normal build flags cause link errors right now. | 15:49 |
| qengho | - Got chromium translations pump runnable and uploaded so I could talk a community member into working on Cr GRD/XTB <--> Lp POT/PO pipeline. | 15:49 |
| qengho | - Found my rarely-restarted desktop stopped booting with systemd. Only upstart boot fallback works. | 15:49 |
| qengho | - New Cr released, but it's not worth uploading. | 15:49 |
| qengho | EOF | 15:49 |
| willcooke | thanks qengho | 15:49 |
| willcooke | #topic seb128 | 15:49 |
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| seb128 | * debconf (included debconflu after coming back :-/) | 15:49 |
| seb128 | * sprint in London | 15:49 |
| seb128 | * bugfixes and ui tweaks for touch settings | 15:49 |
| seb128 | * helped debugging content-hub/state saver issues | 15:49 |
| seb128 | * tested new gedit with csd to see how it fits under Unity7, mostly good but maximized as some weirdness (duplicates wm buttons panel and win) | 15:49 |
| seb128 | * some sponsoring | 15:49 |
| seb128 | (done) | 15:50 |
| willcooke | thanks seb128 | 15:50 |
| willcooke | #topic Sweet5hark | 15:50 |
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| Sweet5hark | - returning from vacation (including cccamp) | 15:50 |
| Sweet5hark | - inbox churn | 15:50 |
| Sweet5hark | - merging from Debian, preparing LibreOffice 5.0.1~rc2 on wily with gcc5 fun stuff (currently building) | 15:50 |
| Sweet5hark | - this one looks like the one we use to bump wily to 5.0.x | 15:50 |
| Sweet5hark | EOF | 15:50 |
| willcooke | thanks Sweet5hark | 15:50 |
| === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow | ||
| willcooke | #topic TheMuso | 15:51 |
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| robert_ancell | willcooke, you said he was out | 15:51 |
| willcooke | * Started working on GSettings backend for Orca | 15:51 |
| willcooke | * Drafting post about a11y profiles | 15:51 |
| * robert_ancell evidently doesn't often come to these | 15:52 | |
| willcooke | #topic tkamppeter | 15:52 |
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| willcooke | guess we'll come back to Till :) | 15:52 |
| willcooke | #topic Trevinho | 15:52 |
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| Laney | * printed some things | 15:53 |
| Trevinho | * Continued working on overlay scrollbars for dash | 15:53 |
| Trevinho | * Prepared SRU for indicator-appmenu | 15:53 |
| Trevinho | * Fixed AP crash on BAMF introspection | 15:53 |
| Trevinho | * Bugs analysis, filled a list of bugs to fix in 16.04 | 15:53 |
| Trevinho | * Code reviews | 15:53 |
| willcooke | thanks Trevinho | 15:53 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, where is that list? tag? | 15:53 |
| Trevinho | seb128: not yet, just a doc | 15:53 |
| seb128 | k | 15:53 |
| Trevinho | seb128: on my PC still, as I want to propose to you guys before | 15:53 |
| Laney | use the rls tag, it's meant for triaging | 15:54 |
| willcooke | rls-w-incoming is what I've been using\ | 15:54 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, k | 15:54 |
| Laney | that one | 15:55 |
| willcooke | but we can review first if you like | 15:55 |
| willcooke | whatevs | 15:55 |
| willcooke | ok | 15:55 |
| willcooke | Live from London.... | 15:55 |
| willcooke | It's.... | 15:55 |
| willcooke | #topic robert_ancell | 15:55 |
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| robert_ancell | • Diagnosing why Unity 8 isn't starting on my machine | 15:55 |
| robert_ancell | • Diagnosing why XMir is messing up on client exit inside Unity 8 | 15:56 |
| robert_ancell | • Working on general XMir bugs | 15:56 |
| robert_ancell | • LightDM improvements | 15:56 |
| robert_ancell | • Get libinput/evdev changes into wily that are required for phones | 15:56 |
| robert_ancell | • Fix invalid autologin setup from ubiquity / user-setup | 15:56 |
| robert_ancell | • Merges and general packaging | 15:56 |
| robert_ancell | (done) | 15:56 |
| willcooke | thanks robert_ancell | 15:56 |
| willcooke | #topic AOB | 15:56 |
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| willcooke | aha | 15:56 |
| willcooke | #topic tkamppeter | 15:56 |
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| willcooke | tkamppeter: you're up | 15:56 |
| Trevinho | not really :) | 15:56 |
| willcooke | meh | 15:56 |
| willcooke | alright, let's wrap this up | 15:57 |
| willcooke | #topic AOB\ | 15:57 |
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| Laney | \ | 15:57 |
| willcooke | Anythings else? | 15:57 |
| Laney | any sprint news? | 15:57 |
| willcooke | non | 15:57 |
| willcooke | :( | 15:57 |
| larsu | sprint sprint sprint | 15:57 |
| Laney | schprint | 15:57 |
| willcooke | Should know more by EOW | 15:57 |
| larsu | end of working year? | 15:58 |
| Laney | /nick Laney[ABL] | 15:58 |
| * Trevinho «sprints, sprints.. I like sprints sprints...» :) | 15:58 | |
| tkamppeter | willcooke, here is my week: | 15:58 |
| Sweet5hark | Laney clearly was too long in germany for debconf. it shows in pronounciation. | 15:58 |
| Trevinho | sprintfs too | 15:58 |
| willcooke | #topic tkamppeter | 15:58 |
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| tkamppeter | - cups-filters: Released 1.0.73 with all the new cups-browsed features from last week | 15:58 |
| tkamppeter | - cups-browsed: several bug fixes, including a fix for a crash, will be released in cups-filters 1.0.74 soon. | 15:58 |
| tkamppeter | - ghostscript: Updated to 9.16 as Debian-independent packaging (as MIRs are not resolved yet). | 15:58 |
| tkamppeter | - ghostscript: Work on the MIRs for openjpeg, libtrio, and libimage-exiftool-perl | 15:58 |
| tkamppeter | - cups: Updated to 2.1.0-rc1, getting CUPS to 2.1.x already one release before LTS. | 15:58 |
| Laney | Sweet5hark: I had too much wurst, it's coming out in my DNA now | 15:58 |
| tkamppeter | - Feature Freeze: Checked package versions and updated to current upstream version: system-config-printer, foomatic-db, foomatic-db-engine, hplip, gutenprint, foo2zjs, python-cups, python-smbc | 15:58 |
| tkamppeter | - Bugs. | 15:58 |
| willcooke | thanks tkamppeter | 15:58 |
| larsu | Sweet5hark, pronounciaschon | 15:59 |
| willcooke | #topic AOB again | 15:59 |
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| tkamppeter | Sorry, everything crashed here, I had to reboot my laptop, my router, and everything. | 15:59 |
| willcooke | I'm having similar issues | 15:59 |
| willcooke | ok, I will hand Will's laptopback | 15:59 |
| willcooke | #endmeeting | 15:59 |
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| meetingology | Meeting ended Tue Aug 25 15:59:56 2015 UTC. | 15:59 |
| meetingology | Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2015/ubuntu-desktop.2015-08-25-15.31.moin.txt | 15:59 |
| Laney | from one will to another | 15:59 |
| Laney | thanks | 16:00 |
| didrocks | thanks guys | 16:00 |
| willcooke | thanks | 16:00 |
| === willcooke is now known as attente | ||
| attente | thanks | 16:00 |
| larsu | thanks attente | 16:00 |
| Laney | attente should chair every week | 16:00 |
| robert_ancell | willcooke draws some runes, chants something intelligible and attente comes back to life | 16:00 |
| attente | \o/ | 16:00 |
| Laney | attente: hey | 16:00 |
| Laney | there's a nice set of climbs up at the minute... | 16:00 |
| Laney | come up on friday......... | 16:01 |
| seb128 | thanks | 16:01 |
| Sweet5hark | thanks | 16:01 |
| willcooke | what just happened? | 16:01 |
| willcooke | I saw a light at the end of a tunnel | 16:01 |
| attente | Laney: leaving friday night :( | 16:01 |
| Laney | come back with me thursday night! | 16:01 |
| seb128 | Laney, you are coming on thursday? | 16:01 |
| Laney | you don't have to, like, work or anything | 16:02 |
| Laney | seb128: yep, 06:30 train! | 16:02 |
| seb128 | excellent! | 16:02 |
| Laney | it's going to be brutal | 16:02 |
| seb128 | well not the earlier start | 16:02 |
| seb128 | but having you there ;-) | 16:02 |
| attente | :o | 16:02 |
| Laney | ya | 16:03 |
| Laney | willcooke: can you get me on the list so that I can get past the guys with the guns? :) | 16:03 |
| willcooke | Laney, ack | 16:03 |
| Laney | I'm sad the strike is off | 16:04 |
| Laney | was looking forward to observing the chaos | 16:04 |
| willcooke | Laney, done | 16:05 |
| Laney | merci! | 16:05 |
| * Laney GY!BE on headphones, loud | 16:07 | |
| Laney | testsuite music | 16:07 |
| Laney | do I have to send PropertiesChanged myself with gdbus? | 16:45 |
| Laney | looks like it | 16:51 |
| larsu | Laney, not if you're using GDBusProxy | 16:54 |
| Laney | larsu: hm? | 17:01 |
| larsu | what exactly are you trying to do? | 17:01 |
| Laney | I'm extending this timedated mock | 17:02 |
| Laney | to give it a proper-ish Timezone property | 17:03 |
| larsu | and it is using raw gdbusconnection? | 17:03 |
| Laney | yeah | 17:04 |
| larsu | ah, then you'll have to send PropertiesChanged yourself | 17:05 |
| larsu | on the service side you'd need GDBusInterface, which handles this for you | 17:05 |
| larsu | but manually is just as easy, the signal is super simple | 17:05 |
| Laney | yeah I think I have this | 17:06 |
| larsu | ah, then it should emit the signals itself | 17:06 |
| Laney | I mean have it implemented :P | 17:06 |
| larsu | ah :) | 17:06 |
| larsu | ok | 17:06 |
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