| darkxst | octoquad, thanks | 04:18 |
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| darkxst | octoquad, btw any bugs which are feature requests get marked wishlist | 04:18 |
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| flexiondotorg | darkxst, Are you participating in 15.10 Beta 1? | 08:23 |
| darkxst | flexiondotorg, didnt ali already update the wiki page? yes we are | 08:24 |
| flexiondotorg | Thanks. | 08:25 |
| flexiondotorg | Just double checking. I'm helping with the flavour releases again. | 08:25 |
| darkxst | flexiondotorg, although I might just run off and hide in a corner, it could be bad, with some big updates in the last week that havent really been tested widely | 08:25 |
| flexiondotorg | darkxst, You and me both ;-) | 08:26 |
| darkxst | flexiondotorg, great thanks for helping again | 08:26 |
| darkxst | flexiondotorg, but I made it onto ubuntu-desktop team | 08:27 |
| darkxst | next stop could be core-dev, at which point I would probably have the permissions to flick the buttons on the other side | 08:27 |
| flexiondotorg | darkxst, Cool. Is that a community role or ful time? | 08:27 |
| darkxst | flexiondotorg, community, still looking for full time work | 08:28 |
| darkxst | and well 90+% of members on that team are Canonical, but I get upload rights to alot of the overlapping stuff | 08:29 |
| darkxst | flexiondotorg, in fact the ubuntu-gnome packageset is more or less completely borked, by that overlap! only really has a dozen packages of interest in it | 08:34 |
| flexiondotorg | I suspected that maintain Ubuntu GNOME must be tricky given how much Unity leans on GNOME3 components. | 08:35 |
| darkxst | flexiondotorg, its been a long haul, sometimes it easy we do the work for them, othertimes, shit fucking breaks them and we get stuck on old crap, having to revert patches for ages | 08:36 |
| darkxst | bluez5 was a good example of that | 08:37 |
| flexiondotorg | darkxst, Yep. I feel the pain with Bluez5 too. | 08:38 |
| darkxst | next up will be gnome-user-share and I'm just waiting on reports that the sharing panel is completely stuffed atm | 08:38 |
| flexiondotorg | Bluetooth is still pretty busted in Ubuntu MATE 15.10. Looks like 16.04 it will finally be sorted. | 08:39 |
| darkxst | lots of things are busted, because the touch team can't keep up with the changes! | 08:39 |
| darkxst | network-manager 1.0 release and packagekit 1.0 are noticeably missing | 08:40 |
| flexiondotorg | Yeah. It is amazing just how similar the MATE and GNOME3 requirements are, even today. | 08:41 |
| flexiondotorg | But I am in a way better situation that you I think. | 08:41 |
| darkxst | flexiondotorg, but how much isnt forked? | 08:47 |
| flexiondotorg | Well, Not as much as you'd think now. We've aligned with GNOME3 libs quite extensively. | 08:47 |
| darkxst | flexiondotorg, so you on gtk3, etc | 08:48 |
| flexiondotorg | And will continue to do so. | 08:48 |
| flexiondotorg | darkxst, GTK2 and GTK3 a build targets. | 08:48 |
| flexiondotorg | In Debian/Ubuntu it is still GTK2 because GTK3 was still considered experimental when MATE 1.10 released. | 08:48 |
| flexiondotorg | That said, I maintain MATE in Arch Linux and provide GTK2 and GTK3 builds. I've used GTK3 as my main desktop for months, no major issues. | 08:49 |
| flexiondotorg | Fedora also have a GTK3 build too. | 08:49 |
| darkxst | gtk3 breaks something every cycle, still waiting for that to drop in 3.18 though | 08:50 |
| flexiondotorg | And we've improved GTK3 support signifcantly since 1.10 release just a few months ago. So I expect GTK3 will be stable for 1.12. | 08:50 |
| flexiondotorg | darkxst, Yes, this is one reason why we've helpd off "promoting" the GTK3 version. | 08:50 |
| flexiondotorg | We see regressions with every GTK3 release. | 08:51 |
| darkxst | but really its just the canonical guys don't dog-food the gtk3 updates during dev cycles | 08:51 |
| darkxst | flexiondotorg, and it has settled down a lot since the early days! | 08:52 |
| darkxst | the breakage back circa 3.6-3.10 was far worse | 08:54 |
| flexiondotorg | I agree. | 08:55 |
| darkxst | flexiondotorg, the biggest issue for us has been getting useful dev's | 08:58 |
| flexiondotorg | For Ubuntu GNOME specifically? | 08:58 |
| darkxst | flexiondotorg, yes | 08:59 |
| flexiondotorg | In what respect? Updating packages and such or coding new features? | 08:59 |
| darkxst | well both really, noskcaj is great with packaging but can't code | 09:01 |
| darkxst | most of the interested people to try to come on board have no experience with either ;( | 09:03 |
| flexiondotorg | Yeah, I know where you're coming from. | 09:04 |
| flexiondotorg | This is why I do most of my work on MATE in Debian. There is an established developer community around MATE there. | 09:04 |
| octoquad | darkxst, I marked it as opinion because I remember there was a reason for it being like that (couldn't remember details) and I wasn't sure of implementation problems. In short, up for discussion (opinion) until a resolution has been proposed. | 15:22 |
| octoquad | darkxst, of those three items I have to work on, do they have to be done this week? I'm not finding much time to help out this week unfortunately. | 15:23 |
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