| qwebirc66393 | im planning on installing a virtual machine for mythbuntu on my hackingtosh machine. is this recomended? additionally can you please advice on what TV Tuner Card is recommended. I live in North America | 17:25 |
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| Shadow__X | qwebirc66393: you may have io issues because running a full os ontop of another full os etc | 17:28 |
| Shadow__X | afaik you can do pci passthrough when running os x so you would need a network tunner | 17:28 |
| Shadow__X | you c an try it | 17:28 |
| Shadow__X | try running mythbuntu as a vm that is | 17:29 |
| tgm4883 | qwebirc66393: I've got my backend in a VM, writing to a NAS for storage. My network card is an HDHomerun Prime | 17:33 |
| Shadow__X | qwebirc66393: it might be more trouble than its worth in that type of setup, but you could try it | 17:33 |
| Shadow__X | tgm4883: is the vm running on a spinner? | 17:33 |
| Shadow__X | and what is your base os? | 17:33 |
| Shadow__X | because doing running it as a vm on top os os x, is different than esxi,hyperv,proxmox,xen,etc | 17:34 |
| tgm4883 | Shadow__X: Ubuntu | 17:34 |
| tgm4883 | Running on libvirt, backend I believe is KVM | 17:34 |
| tgm4883 | Shadow__X: spinner? | 17:34 |
| Shadow__X | disk vs ssd | 17:34 |
| Shadow__X | and is it a server or your desktop | 17:34 |
| tgm4883 | ah | 17:35 |
| Shadow__X | ah ok yeah, libvirt uses kvm (among other things) | 17:35 |
| tgm4883 | The OS is on an SSD | 17:35 |
| Shadow__X | there are webui's available btw | 17:35 |
| tgm4883 | It's a desktop machine that is sitting in my closet | 17:35 |
| tgm4883 | a Q6600 with 8GB RAM | 17:36 |
| tgm4883 | Shadow__X: I've got on my TODO list to see about moving it to LXC | 17:36 |
| Shadow__X | i don't know much about lxc, i know proxmox 4 will use it so ill learn when they switch over | 17:36 |
| Shadow__X | q6600 is getting up there in age | 17:37 |
| Shadow__X | my mythtv backend is running an e8400 but that is way too slow at this point | 17:37 |
| Shadow__X | so when i bring it back online ill upgrade it to something more modern | 17:37 |
| tgm4883 | lxc is pretty nice | 17:37 |
| tgm4883 | A Q6600 is getting up there, but it's powerful enough for what I want to do, which is recording multiple shows and commflagging | 17:38 |
| Shadow__X | ah yeah, my biggest isse was transcoding | 17:38 |
| tgm4883 | On that box it runs 1 VM, which is my mythtv backend, and 4 LXC containers, which run puppet, check_mk, gitlab, and minecraft | 17:38 |
| Shadow__X | gotcha | 17:39 |
| Shadow__X | i need to learn about the management stuff like puppet | 17:40 |
| tgm4883 | You could run the backend on less hardware and farm out the more CPU intensive jobs | 17:40 |
| tgm4883 | I ran my backend on a raspbery pi 2 for awhile and farmed out the comflagging to my desktop | 17:40 |
| Shadow__X | hmm | 17:41 |
| Shadow__X | i didn't think about that | 17:41 |
| Shadow__X | i think the machine will wind up running something like proxmox, with pfsense,mythtv fe/be and possibly a windows vm | 17:41 |
| tgm4883 | the pi 2 as a backend works well enough. There's some addditional tweaking that I didn't do | 17:41 |
| Shadow__X | gpu passthrough to tv | 17:41 |
| qwebirc66393 | thanks for the quicknes guys. isee that some of you think is more trouble than is worth. and i dont want to do more than what i need | 17:41 |
| Shadow__X | qwebirc66393: its more about realizing what you are doing and have realistic expectations | 17:42 |
| Shadow__X | if your desktop is down, no mythtv, etc | 17:42 |
| tgm4883 | yep | 17:42 |
| Shadow__X | and your easiest bet is to use network tuners | 17:42 |
| tgm4883 | Yes | 17:43 |
| tgm4883 | it helps that the best tuners IMO are network tuners | 17:43 |
| qwebirc66393 | im planning on using a old mac pro 2008 2.8GHz Quad Core XEON as freenas server. can i use this as my backend? | 17:44 |
| Shadow__X | qwebirc66393:its more about how you plan to set it up | 17:45 |
| Shadow__X | does freenas do containers? | 17:45 |
| qwebirc66393 | i know that this is two thing that im trying to do i just want to know whats the best way to go about it? | 17:45 |
| Shadow__X | ONE way to achieve that is with a setup that supports vt-d | 17:46 |
| qwebirc66393 | i was planning on just using frenass as the main OS ands tipping out the MAC OS | 17:46 |
| Shadow__X | with ecc ram* for zfs | 17:46 |
| qwebirc66393 | ram 8 gig | 17:46 |
| Shadow__X | so you could run something like esxi,proxmox,whatever, setup a freenas vm with vt-d, pass through some contrllers to it, use that as your nas, then setup the mythbuntu vm | 17:47 |
| Shadow__X | but if freenas supports containers, you could just install freenas and setup mythbuntu as a container | 17:47 |
| Shadow__X | or you might have to do a freenas mythtv setup | 17:47 |
| tgm4883 | well theres an issue there | 17:47 |
| tgm4883 | freenas isn't linux, so your containers wouldn't be linux either | 17:47 |
| tgm4883 | you'd have to run it as a VM on top of freenas, if freenas supports that | 17:48 |
| qwebirc66393 | i think i should have two boxes for this and stop trying to consolidate all this in one box | 17:49 |
| Shadow__X | tgm4883: i wasn't sure if that was the limitation or not | 17:49 |
| Shadow__X | qwebirc66393: one of the options i mentioned is running it all in one box though | 17:50 |
| Shadow__X | its just finding the right hardware/software to support that | 17:50 |
| qwebirc66393 | i knoe but it sound kinda messy | 17:50 |
| Shadow__X | it all depends on what you want to do and how comfortable you are with it | 17:50 |
| Shadow__X | i am running pci passthrough with an hba on my server | 17:51 |
| Shadow__X | and tested out passthrough for a gpu | 17:51 |
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