[17:25] im planning on installing a virtual machine for mythbuntu on my hackingtosh machine. is this recomended? additionally can you please advice on what TV Tuner Card is recommended. I live in North America [17:28] qwebirc66393: you may have io issues because running a full os ontop of another full os etc [17:28] afaik you can do pci passthrough when running os x so you would need a network tunner [17:28] you c an try it [17:29] try running mythbuntu as a vm that is [17:33] qwebirc66393: I've got my backend in a VM, writing to a NAS for storage. My network card is an HDHomerun Prime [17:33] qwebirc66393: it might be more trouble than its worth in that type of setup, but you could try it [17:33] tgm4883: is the vm running on a spinner? [17:33] and what is your base os? [17:34] because doing running it as a vm on top os os x, is different than esxi,hyperv,proxmox,xen,etc [17:34] Shadow__X: Ubuntu [17:34] Running on libvirt, backend I believe is KVM [17:34] Shadow__X: spinner? [17:34] disk vs ssd [17:34] and is it a server or your desktop [17:35] ah [17:35] ah ok yeah, libvirt uses kvm (among other things) [17:35] The OS is on an SSD [17:35] there are webui's available btw [17:35] It's a desktop machine that is sitting in my closet [17:36] a Q6600 with 8GB RAM [17:36] Shadow__X: I've got on my TODO list to see about moving it to LXC [17:36] i don't know much about lxc, i know proxmox 4 will use it so ill learn when they switch over [17:37] q6600 is getting up there in age [17:37] my mythtv backend is running an e8400 but that is way too slow at this point [17:37] so when i bring it back online ill upgrade it to something more modern [17:37] lxc is pretty nice [17:38] A Q6600 is getting up there, but it's powerful enough for what I want to do, which is recording multiple shows and commflagging [17:38] ah yeah, my biggest isse was transcoding [17:38] On that box it runs 1 VM, which is my mythtv backend, and 4 LXC containers, which run puppet, check_mk, gitlab, and minecraft [17:39] gotcha [17:40] i need to learn about the management stuff like puppet [17:40] You could run the backend on less hardware and farm out the more CPU intensive jobs [17:40] I ran my backend on a raspbery pi 2 for awhile and farmed out the comflagging to my desktop [17:41] hmm [17:41] i didn't think about that [17:41] i think the machine will wind up running something like proxmox, with pfsense,mythtv fe/be and possibly a windows vm [17:41] the pi 2 as a backend works well enough. There's some addditional tweaking that I didn't do [17:41] gpu passthrough to tv [17:41] thanks for the quicknes guys. isee that some of you think is more trouble than is worth. and i dont want to do more than what i need [17:42] qwebirc66393: its more about realizing what you are doing and have realistic expectations [17:42] if your desktop is down, no mythtv, etc [17:42] yep [17:42] and your easiest bet is to use network tuners [17:43] Yes [17:43] it helps that the best tuners IMO are network tuners [17:44] im planning on using a old mac pro 2008 2.8GHz Quad Core XEON as freenas server. can i use this as my backend? [17:45] qwebirc66393:its more about how you plan to set it up [17:45] does freenas do containers? [17:45] i know that this is two thing that im trying to do i just want to know whats the best way to go about it? [17:46] ONE way to achieve that is with a setup that supports vt-d [17:46] i was planning on just using frenass as the main OS ands tipping out the MAC OS [17:46] with ecc ram* for zfs [17:46] ram 8 gig [17:47] so you could run something like esxi,proxmox,whatever, setup a freenas vm with vt-d, pass through some contrllers to it, use that as your nas, then setup the mythbuntu vm [17:47] but if freenas supports containers, you could just install freenas and setup mythbuntu as a container [17:47] or you might have to do a freenas mythtv setup [17:47] well theres an issue there [17:47] freenas isn't linux, so your containers wouldn't be linux either [17:48] you'd have to run it as a VM on top of freenas, if freenas supports that [17:49] i think i should have two boxes for this and stop trying to consolidate all this in one box [17:49] tgm4883: i wasn't sure if that was the limitation or not [17:50] qwebirc66393: one of the options i mentioned is running it all in one box though [17:50] its just finding the right hardware/software to support that [17:50] i knoe but it sound kinda messy [17:50] it all depends on what you want to do and how comfortable you are with it [17:51] i am running pci passthrough with an hba on my server [17:51] and tested out passthrough for a gpu