| Padroni | Good morning | 06:21 |
|---|---|---|
| Padroni | hi | 06:31 |
| Squirm | Morning | 06:37 |
| barrydk | Good mornings | 06:59 |
| Kilos | morning all you za peeps | 08:45 |
| MaNI | everyone asleep today :P | 09:00 |
| * TinuvaMac ZzZzZzzzzzz... | 09:01 | |
| MaNI | they all went into a coma after seeing the exchange rate | 09:05 |
| Squirm | Heh | 09:14 |
| Squirm | How is everyone? | 09:14 |
| Kilos | lol | 09:21 |
| Squirm | I don't know how that is Kilos? | 09:47 |
| Kilos | oh sorry Squirm its was meant for the other two | 09:48 |
| Kilos | im ok ty and you lad | 09:48 |
| Kilos | peeps gotta realise that channels are only quiet because everyone is saying nothing | 09:49 |
| pieter2627 | 10:24 | |
| * pieter2627 also saying nothing :p | 10:25 | |
| === deegee is now known as drussell | ||
| === drussell is now known as Guest75778 | ||
| * inetpro joins in to say nothing as well | 11:57 | |
| inetpro | 11:57 | |
| Kilos | lol | 12:47 |
| Kilos | noisy bunch | 12:47 |
| pieter2627 | shh oom, it's an unofficial prayer hours :p | 12:48 |
| Kilos | hehe | 12:49 |
| pieter2627 | was gister ook stil sonder oom - dalk vyf sinne | 12:50 |
| Kilos | ai! | 12:51 |
| Kilos | julle moet dinge aan die roer hou man | 12:51 |
| Kilos | al is dit net om mekaar te groet | 12:51 |
| Kilos | hierdie is ons buntu familie | 12:52 |
| Kilos | en familie groet mekaar | 12:52 |
| pieter2627 | die sinne was om mekaar te groet | 12:52 |
| Kilos | lol | 12:52 |
| Kilos | igo sllep awhile | 13:04 |
| Kilos | sleep | 13:04 |
| superfly | moo | 13:28 |
| * Squirm prods superfly | 13:42 | |
| superfly | ohi Squirm | 13:43 |
| Squirm | Hey | 13:43 |
| superfly | sitting at the Google Developer Summit | 13:50 |
| Squirm | Nice | 13:55 |
| superfly | it's pretty much done now, going home | 13:55 |
| === deegee is now known as drussell | ||
| kulelu88 | yo | 16:06 |
| superfly | sup | 18:04 |
| Kilos | hi superfly and everyone else | 18:07 |
| superfly | Hi Kilos | 18:07 |
| superfly | I don't know where everyone else is, it looks like it's just you and me, Kilos | 18:08 |
| Kilos | hehewe are early | 18:08 |
| Kilos | pieter2627 is chairing | 18:08 |
| Kilos | hi qwebirc36238 | 18:09 |
| pieter2627 | hope you're early, else i'm late | 18:09 |
| Kilos | meeting starts at 8.30pm | 18:09 |
| kulelu88 | im here | 18:10 |
| Kilos | pieter2627 has you got permissions for Maaz | 18:10 |
| Kilos | hi kulelu88 | 18:10 |
| Kilos | hi nlsthzn hows you and family lad | 18:10 |
| pieter2627 | Kilos: yes | 18:11 |
| Kilos | ood | 18:11 |
| Kilos | good too | 18:11 |
| nlsthzn | hey uncle Kilos , all - family all back in foreign land and cooking in the summer heat thanks, all well in ZA I hope? | 18:11 |
| inetpro | good evening | 18:12 |
| Kilos | so far yes ty nlsthzn | 18:12 |
| Kilos | hi inetpro | 18:12 |
| nlsthzn | so meeting in a few minutes yes? | 18:17 |
| inetpro | nlsthzn: yep, and that with new chairman and all | 18:20 |
| Kilos | hi unlaudable welcome to ubuntu-za | 18:23 |
| nlsthzn | cool | 18:23 |
| qwebirc36238 | I bet I'm the only one here from Port Elizabeth | 18:25 |
| qwebirc36238 | \nick | 18:25 |
| unlaudable | Kilos, thanks \o | 18:26 |
| === qwebirc36238 is now known as gwood | ||
| Kilos | haha hi brad | 18:26 |
| unlaudable | Miles? | 18:27 |
| Kilos | yessir | 18:27 |
| kulelu88 | PE has internet? *mind blown* | 18:27 |
| Kilos | lol | 18:27 |
| * superfly will be back in a minute or 3 | 18:27 | |
| unlaudable | kulelu88, they even have an *airport* | 18:27 |
| superfly | kulelu88: Axxess is from PE | 18:27 |
| Kilos | ok superfly | 18:28 |
| unlaudable | aalston, lo buddy | 18:29 |
| kulelu88 | superfly: their service has been so shitty lately that they themselves admitted it through email "has our service been bad for you?" | 18:29 |
| pieter2627 | seems that we should start? | 18:30 |
| gwood | my University is having really internet, some line break | 18:30 |
| inetpro | good idea | 18:30 |
| pieter2627 | Maaz: start meeting about Ubuntu Monthly Meeting - Aug 2015 | 18:31 |
| * Maaz gets out his memo-pad and cracks his knuckles | 18:31 | |
| inetpro | Maaz: I am Gustav H Meyer | 18:31 |
| Maaz | inetpro: Alrighty | 18:31 |
| kulelu88 | gwood: which varsity? | 18:31 |
| gwood | NMMU | 18:31 |
| kulelu88 | schweet | 18:31 |
| pieter2627 | Maaz: topic Welcoming and Introduction | 18:31 |
| Maaz | Current Topic: Welcoming and Introduction | 18:31 |
| gwood | Maaz: I am Grant Woodford | 18:31 |
| Maaz | gwood: Sure | 18:31 |
| superfly | Maaz: I am Raoul Snyman | 18:31 |
| Maaz | superfly: Sure | 18:31 |
| pieter2627 | Good evening everyone, welcome and thanks for attending the meeting | 18:31 |
| kulelu88 | Maaz: I am kulelu88 | 18:32 |
| Maaz | kulelu88: Okay | 18:32 |
| pieter2627 | Please introduce yourselves to maaz for the minutes using `Maaz: I am <firstname lastname>` eg. | 18:32 |
| clr_ | Maaz: I am Charl le Roux | 18:32 |
| Maaz | clr_: Okay | 18:32 |
| pieter2627 | Maaz: I am Pieter Engelbrecht | 18:32 |
| Maaz | pieter2627: Righto | 18:32 |
| pieter2627 | the agenda for today is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Meetings/20150825 | 18:32 |
| unlaudable | Maaz: I am Bradley Cloete | 18:33 |
| Maaz | unlaudable: Okay | 18:33 |
| pieter2627 | and last minute topic suggestions is welcomed if anyone has any | 18:33 |
| * nlsthzn would love to stay but bed calls... gnight | 18:33 | |
| Kilos | Maaz I am Miles Sharpe | 18:34 |
| Maaz | Kilos: Alrighty | 18:34 |
| unlaudable | topic: how on earth does safair's website not cope even when using cloudflare :-) | 18:34 |
| inetpro | haha | 18:35 |
| pieter2627 | Kilos: anyone still seem missing? | 18:35 |
| Kilos | welcome to our new chairman | 18:35 |
| Kilos | octoquad ping | 18:35 |
| pieter2627 | Maaz: topic Review minutes of previous meeting | 18:35 |
| Maaz | Current Topic: Review minutes of previous meeting | 18:35 |
| Kilos | many missing | 18:35 |
| inetpro | oh yes, thanks pieter2627 for taking the hot seat this evening | 18:36 |
| pieter2627 | while we wait for others the previous meeting's minutes can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Meetings/20150728 | 18:36 |
| magespawn | good evening | 18:36 |
| Kilos | hi magespawn | 18:36 |
| Kilos | magespawn meeting hey so login please | 18:37 |
| octoquad | Kilos, hello. | 18:37 |
| octoquad | Hello all | 18:37 |
| Kilos | yoohoo octoquad wb you attending the meeting sir? | 18:38 |
| octoquad | sure, forgot there was one tonight, thanks for pinging me | 18:38 |
| octoquad | Maaz: I am Bruce Pieterse | 18:38 |
| Maaz | octoquad: Sure | 18:38 |
| Kilos | Squirm nuvolari MaNI you guys are welcome to attend | 18:39 |
| Kilos | and ambo bmg505 cyrilb danfowler and whoever ive missed | 18:40 |
| pieter2627 | everyone ok with the minutes from last meeting? | 18:40 |
| Kilos | Private_User are you attending?? | 18:41 |
| superfly | Looks OK to me, I don't think I was here. | 18:41 |
| pieter2627 | not that i can remember superfly | 18:42 |
| magespawn | good evening (again) | 18:42 |
| pieter2627 | right, moving on then | 18:42 |
| pieter2627 | Maaz: topic Plans for 2015 | 18:43 |
| Maaz | Current Topic: Plans for 2015 | 18:43 |
| Kilos | wb magespawn | 18:43 |
| magespawn | Maaz I am Greg Eames | 18:43 |
| Maaz | magespawn: Sure | 18:43 |
| kulelu88 | ping gremble | 18:43 |
| Kilos | he is offline here | 18:43 |
| pieter2627 | i guess it is the usual for plans... | 18:44 |
| pieter2627 | a question, 'Get more people to join [link to site]' - is that correct | 18:44 |
| gwood | Are there any plans/events close to PE? | 18:45 |
| pieter2627 | it link to ubuntu za site.. | 18:45 |
| Kilos | inetpro ^# | 18:45 |
| Kilos | 3 | 18:45 |
| inetpro | pieter2627: you have a better suggestion? | 18:45 |
| inetpro | if people don't know about ubuntu-za where would they start? | 18:46 |
| Kilos | ai! i cant get use to this lappy b/board | 18:46 |
| pieter2627 | no, just wondering how one joins a website | 18:46 |
| inetpro | fair point | 18:46 |
| Kilos | there are join buttons arent there | 18:46 |
| Kilos | to join us not the sight | 18:46 |
| * pieter2627 checking | 18:46 | |
| unlaudable | anyone here use meetup.com? | 18:47 |
| inetpro | it says right there, "Please join us in using, working on, and helping others with Ubuntu." | 18:47 |
| kulelu88 | me unlaudable | 18:47 |
| Kilos | there is an irc direc link to here ans the ML should be there too | 18:47 |
| unlaudable | it seems to be the popular way to organise an event these days, might work for this to | 18:47 |
| octoquad | unlaudable, me | 18:47 |
| pieter2627 | inetpro: ok | 18:48 |
| kulelu88 | unlaudable: there is already LUGs on meetup, so linux-related stuff happens | 18:48 |
| inetpro | unlaudable: we are not organised enough? :-) | 18:49 |
| pieter2627 | anyone signed or planning on signing COC, membership, got LP IDs? | 18:49 |
| * unlaudable cant remember if he's signed... | 18:50 | |
| unlaudable | have a launchpad id... | 18:50 |
| Kilos | hehe what a job | 18:50 |
| pieter2627 | sorry meaning for last/this month | 18:50 |
| Kilos | anyone that has probs ping pro | 18:50 |
| unlaudable | I was just mentioning meetup as a way to enable people to "join" | 18:51 |
| unlaudable | convenience... | 18:51 |
| inetpro | for inspiration see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kilos | 18:51 |
| Kilos | ai! | 18:51 |
| magespawn | some people also like to have other people to talk to | 18:51 |
| octoquad | unlaudable, you mean alternative platforms to connect right? | 18:51 |
| unlaudable | well meetup wont do that, I was just thinking as a way to add to a calendar of sorts and be reminded | 18:52 |
| Kilos | inetpro we can add our meets to the fridge | 18:52 |
| * inetpro has never used meetup | 18:52 | |
| pieter2627 | seems that it can also inform unaware users of us | 18:53 |
| Kilos | we=you of course | 18:53 |
| Kilos | the peeps that savvy thunderbird can get reminders | 18:53 |
| unlaudable | there are a ton of communities on there jozilug, ansible puppet | 18:53 |
| Kilos | then | 18:53 |
| kulelu88 | I suggest you guys connect with JLUG to attract users here. they already have the target-market | 18:53 |
| * unlaudable has a dream that there would be an event one day that will join them all :-) | 18:53 | |
| magespawn | sorry unlaudable i thought you meant meetups as in launch parties etc | 18:54 |
| gwood | I think it makes sense to plan an event, but give notice through multiple avenues, such as meetup, facebooks, email, etc. | 18:54 |
| unlaudable | one event to rule them all | 18:54 |
| pieter2627 | Maaz: idea add meeting to the fridge | 18:54 |
| Maaz | Idea recorded: add meeting to the fridge | 18:54 |
| pieter2627 | Maaz: idea add meeting to meetup.com | 18:54 |
| Maaz | Idea recorded: add meeting to meetup.com | 18:54 |
| kulelu88 | unlaudable: you cannot have 1 event where linux, BSD, Java and Haskell guys all get along. | 18:54 |
| Kilos | and google calender pieter2627 | 18:55 |
| superfly | HAHAHAHA | 18:55 |
| unlaudable | heheh perhaps... | 18:55 |
| pieter2627 | Kilos: are we not there already | 18:55 |
| pieter2627 | and how? | 18:55 |
| Kilos | i have no idea pieter2627 thats pros department | 18:55 |
| unlaudable | but there is some synergy somewhere, the devops/ansible meetup guys had Jez Humble out for one meeting :-) | 18:55 |
| Kilos | he did all mine | 18:55 |
| Kilos | he also does G+ reminders | 18:56 |
| kulelu88 | unlaudable: join "Developer User Group", its close enough I think | 18:56 |
| gwood | I regularly have fights with a Julia guy at varsity, I'm mainly a Java guy | 18:56 |
| pieter2627 | Maaz: idea add meeting to a public google calendar | 18:56 |
| Maaz | Idea recorded: add meeting to a public google calendar | 18:56 |
| pieter2627 | ok, any else for plan anyone? | 18:56 |
| kulelu88 | gwood: no person at varsity should be calling themselves a Java guy in 2015 :O | 18:56 |
| pieter2627 | s/any/anything/ | 18:56 |
| superfly | pieter2627: let's move on. | 18:57 |
| pieter2627 | Maaz: topic Events | 18:57 |
| Maaz | Current Topic: Events | 18:57 |
| gwood | kulelu88: I do when 80% of my project is Java | 18:57 |
| superfly | we've already been here half an hour and we haven't even got past the first half of the agenda | 18:57 |
| Kilos | lol | 18:58 |
| inetpro | ai! | 18:58 |
| superfly | (seriously, every meeting we have those items on the agenda, and every meeting the outcome is the same: nothing) | 18:58 |
| pieter2627 | superfly: can you tell us of the google summit today - quickly | 18:58 |
| superfly | pieter2627: Yes | 18:58 |
| unlaudable | is there a person appointed to broadcast meetings and such? | 18:58 |
| Kilos | unlaudable the pro | 18:59 |
| kulelu88 | superfly: the only way things can get done in this country is complaining about government over a braai and doing the work on the side | 18:59 |
| unlaudable | 'k | 18:59 |
| superfly | The local Google crew came to introduce us to some of the newer stuff Google has been working on. I was on the "web" track, where we learnt about some new browser standards that Google has been pushing: ServiceWorkers and Push Notifications | 18:59 |
| pieter2627 | superfly: interesting | 19:00 |
| superfly | We had a competition to see who could finish both codelab projects first, and I'm sad to say it wasn't me, but it WAS a guy running Ubuntu | 19:00 |
| inetpro | unlaudable: I've been a bit slack lately, sorry | 19:00 |
| pieter2627 | lol | 19:00 |
| unlaudable | that sounds awesome | 19:00 |
| magespawn | it is now official, cape town has some cool stuff | 19:01 |
| kulelu88 | sounds cool | 19:01 |
| unlaudable | inetpro, dont beat yourself up :-) | 19:01 |
| pieter2627 | also remember SFD is 19 sept | 19:01 |
| superfly | Not much more I can say, but if you want to know about ServiceWorkers and Push Notifications, I am happy to chat afterwards | 19:01 |
| gwood | cape town has some amazing tech meetings | 19:01 |
| inetpro | unlaudable: I don't :-) | 19:01 |
| * pieter2627 is kind of sad that it was only in CPT | 19:01 | |
| superfly | pieter2627: not only in Cape Town, also in Nigeria and Nairobi, Kenya | 19:02 |
| inetpro | superfly: sounds interesting | 19:02 |
| pieter2627 | anything else happened this month or happening in the one to ome? | 19:02 |
| Kilos | hi kapanda | 19:02 |
| superfly | I have some feedback on SFD | 19:02 |
| kapanda | hi kilos | 19:02 |
| kulelu88 | reminder that PyConZA is happening in October in Johannesburg/Wits | 19:02 |
| unlaudable | I only learned today about this... agile africa http://agileafrica.jcse.org.za/ | 19:03 |
| Kilos | you want to join our meeting kapanda ? | 19:03 |
| Kilos | just type in Maaz I am name surname | 19:03 |
| kapanda | yes please | 19:03 |
| unlaudable | I'm keen to got pycon, not really a programmer though :-) | 19:03 |
| superfly | I spoke with Karl Fischer (kmf) earlier. He says that they have a few speakers lined up... But he would like some Ubuntu people involved for perhaps a talk or something. And they need more sponsorship. | 19:04 |
| inetpro | we have very little time left until the SFD event | 19:04 |
| superfly | This is SFD | 19:04 |
| inetpro | yep kmf is seriously looking for Speakers, Volunteers and donors for the SFD event | 19:04 |
| * pieter2627 might be able to attend - can help volunteer then | 19:04 | |
| kulelu88 | SFD needs to advertise better. tweeting out requests wont help | 19:05 |
| superfly | kulelu88: it's a bit of a grass roots thing, so it needs the community to help out | 19:05 |
| pieter2627 | kulelu88: is that more of our jobs (personally have not done anything) | 19:05 |
| kulelu88 | superfly: suggest they make a meetup group and I'll assist through that | 19:06 |
| pieter2627 | any news on the installFest from CPT inetpro? | 19:07 |
| inetpro | pieter2627: no news unfortunately | 19:07 |
| Kilos | hi clr_ | 19:07 |
| Kilos | wanna login with Maaz please | 19:08 |
| pieter2627 | ouch, moving on then? | 19:08 |
| inetpro | oh, kmf saying the venue for SFD has been paid for | 19:08 |
| Kilos | hi Vince-0 wb | 19:08 |
| Vince-0 | hi | 19:08 |
| inetpro | obviously donors would be welcome to help ease the bill | 19:08 |
| clr_ | I have before | 19:09 |
| Kilos | oh my did i miss it | 19:09 |
| Kilos | sorry | 19:09 |
| pieter2627 | clr_: kilos means signin for the meeting | 19:09 |
| Kilos | yes ty | 19:09 |
| kapanda | what kind of talks are you looking for at the SFD | 19:09 |
| clr_ | hehe pieter2627 , I have before, was just logged out there for a mo | 19:10 |
| pieter2627 | `Maaz: I am <first lastname> | 19:10 |
| octoquad | pieter2627, he has at 20:32:09 | 19:10 |
| Kilos | ai! us blind peeps | 19:10 |
| kulelu88 | kapanda: anything open-source friendly and relevant should do | 19:10 |
| pieter2627 | haha, thanks octoquad | 19:10 |
| octoquad | pieter2627, np | 19:10 |
| pieter2627 | ok moving on | 19:11 |
| kulelu88 | but talks at the intermediate level would be better | 19:11 |
| pieter2627 | Maaz: topic Miscellaneous | 19:11 |
| Maaz | Current Topic: Miscellaneous | 19:11 |
| pieter2627 | might have been to fast there, anyway Kilos any news on getting involved with lugs, etc? | 19:12 |
| Kilos | kulelu88 got some of the jozilug guys here but they only stayed one day or less | 19:13 |
| inetpro | anyone who wants to talk in more detail about SFD please talk to us here after the meeting or post an email to the mailing list | 19:13 |
| Kilos | kulelu88 can you remind them again please | 19:13 |
| pieter2627 | kulelu88: any feedback | 19:13 |
| pieter2627 | ... that you might have gotten | 19:14 |
| kapanda | I am a member of the jozilug | 19:14 |
| Kilos | pieter2627 i greeted them and welcome them but maybe they were expecting more action here | 19:14 |
| Kilos | oh yes thats right sorry kapanda | 19:14 |
| Kilos | there was someone else with you as well that day | 19:15 |
| pieter2627 | for ubuntu-in-the-wild, my list is at 4 items - have to confirm(get) two after tomorrows meeting | 19:15 |
| kulelu88 | kapanda is heavily involved with the LUG, please arrange for LUG members to troll #ubuntu-za @ kapanda | 19:15 |
| pieter2627 | superfly: you mentioned that nikola can create a photo gallery | 19:16 |
| Kilos | hehe | 19:16 |
| superfly | yes | 19:16 |
| superfly | pieter2627: it's pretty easy. you just drop photos into the one folder and Nikola does it for you | 19:16 |
| gwood | What is this talk about ubuntu-in-the-wild? | 19:16 |
| inetpro | gwood: Agenda: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Meetings/20150728 | 19:17 |
| pieter2627 | superfly: is captions possible? | 19:17 |
| superfly | pieter2627: I'm not sure | 19:17 |
| kapanda | most lug members like there own flavor of linux, so its hard to get them to support Ubuntu. | 19:17 |
| pieter2627 | gwood: to add a section to the za site which is to show that ubuntu is more popular than one might think | 19:18 |
| kapanda | I use Ubuntu for the Tech Hub am running | 19:18 |
| pieter2627 | that is how i remember it at least | 19:18 |
| Kilos | kapanda we all need to pull together to promote all of linux | 19:18 |
| Kilos | OS is a personal thing | 19:18 |
| gwood | pieter2627: thanks | 19:18 |
| superfly | pieter2627: https://getnikola.com/handbook.html#images-and-galleries | 19:19 |
| pieter2627 | superfly: that index.txt file seems to be it for captions | 19:20 |
| superfly | pieter2627: no, it's for general text on the page | 19:20 |
| superfly | above the images | 19:21 |
| gwood | Very fringe, but Ubuntu is the only officially supported OS for some robotics frameworks I've been looking into: http://www.ros.org/ | 19:21 |
| kapanda | Am all in for Linux | 19:21 |
| pieter2627 | superfly: oh, from the demo it seems that a caption is created from the filename | 19:21 |
| unlaudable | nikola is a static site generator? | 19:22 |
| Kilos | yes | 19:22 |
| unlaudable | you seen hugo? | 19:22 |
| pieter2627 | kapanda: as i understand it, we want to be more involved to better help new users | 19:23 |
| gwood | for python, looks quite interesting | 19:23 |
| Kilos | our site and the africa sites run nikola | 19:23 |
| unlaudable | static site generator written in go looks pretty good... | 19:23 |
| pieter2627 | Kilos: am i correct? | 19:23 |
| unlaudable | Kilos, ah cool | 19:23 |
| Kilos | correct pieter2627 we welcome any linux users | 19:23 |
| inetpro | kapanda: we don't mind if people divert to other distros | 19:24 |
| inetpro | important is that we catch those who experience Linux for the first time using Ubuntu and make it a smooth experience as far as possible | 19:24 |
| pieter2627 | anything else for misc? | 19:24 |
| pieter2627 | Maaz: topic Elect chairperson for next meeting | 19:25 |
| Maaz | Current Topic: Elect chairperson for next meeting | 19:25 |
| kapanda | Sure, I also introduce people to Ubuntu first then show them other distros | 19:25 |
| Kilos | we have yum peeps here too hehe | 19:25 |
| Kilos | Maaz pieter2627 ++ | 19:26 |
| * Kilos votes for pieter2627 | 19:26 | |
| * inetpro votes +1 for pieter2627 | 19:26 | |
| * pieter2627 would like to sit out the next one | 19:26 | |
| Kilos | oh my | 19:26 |
| inetpro | hmm... | 19:26 |
| Kilos | you did well pieter2627 | 19:26 |
| pieter2627 | just to check others again -can backup | 19:27 |
| Kilos | hard work chairing | 19:27 |
| kulelu88 | I vote Kilos | 19:27 |
| * pieter2627 rofl | 19:27 | |
| Kilos | lol kulelu88 you tried that before | 19:28 |
| inetpro | anyone else want to volunteer before we vote pieter2627 again? | 19:28 |
| pieter2627 | giving 30 sec | 19:28 |
| inetpro | pieter2627: you can do it again man | 19:28 |
| Kilos | pieter2627 you in the groove, it gets easier | 19:28 |
| Kilos | first one is the big one | 19:28 |
| pieter2627 | Maaz: agreed pieter2627 to chair next meeting | 19:28 |
| Maaz | Agreed: pieter2627 to chair next meeting | 19:28 |
| inetpro | nice! | 19:29 |
| Kilos | imo you did well | 19:29 |
| inetpro | thanks pieter2627 | 19:29 |
| pieter2627 | Maaz: topic Next meeting | 19:29 |
| Maaz | Current Topic: Next meeting | 19:29 |
| pieter2627 | next meeting is at 22 Sept hope you all can join again | 19:29 |
| pieter2627 | that date is right inetpro? | 19:29 |
| Kilos | im going in tha day for an op | 19:30 |
| inetpro | pieter2627: looks correct | 19:30 |
| inetpro | every 4th Tuesday of the month | 19:30 |
| Kilos | so you guys have to be greeter bots too | 19:30 |
| pieter2627 | Maaz: agreed next meeting on Tuesday, 22 September 2015 @ 20:30 | 19:30 |
| Maaz | Agreed: next meeting on Tuesday, 22 September 2015 @ 20:30 | 19:30 |
| pieter2627 | thats a wrap thanks for attending everyone | 19:30 |
| inetpro | good timing! | 19:31 |
| pieter2627 | Maaz: end meeting | 19:31 |
| Maaz | Meeting Ended | 19:31 |
| Maaz | Minutes available at json: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2015-08-25-18-31-10.json :: txt: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2015-08-25-18-31-10.txt :: html: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2015-08-25-18-31-10.html | 19:31 |
| Kilos | pieter2627 thanks alot for chairing toning and for standing in for next month as well | 19:31 |
| Kilos | tonight | 19:31 |
| pieter2627 | Kilos: np | 19:31 |
| Kilos | its nice to know we have another backup chair | 19:31 |
| Kilos | now i need to sleep guys, ty everyone for attending | 19:32 |
| pieter2627 | Kilos: what op you in for if you don't mind me asking? | 19:32 |
| Kilos | hernia pieter2627 | 19:33 |
| Kilos | looks a smallish job from wha the docs say | 19:33 |
| pieter2627 | dan vloek die oom my ook nog :p | 19:33 |
| Kilos | what | 19:33 |
| Kilos | skuus man | 19:33 |
| Kilos | hehe | 19:33 |
| Kilos | breek | 19:33 |
| pieter2627 | oh | 19:33 |
| inetpro | breuk | 19:33 |
| Kilos | daai ding ook ja dankie inetpro | 19:34 |
| Kilos | the meds im on atm make me sleepy most of the day | 19:34 |
| Kilos | sorry guys | 19:34 |
| Kilos | rebore resleave and new pistons and rings and ill be like new | 19:35 |
| inetpro | pieter2627: I guess we can do a better job in advertising our next meeting again | 19:35 |
| * inetpro only registered the g+ event yesterday | 19:36 | |
| pieter2627 | inetpro: i'm gonna see to create a public google calendar tomorrow | 19:36 |
| inetpro | pieter2627: we actually did have one | 19:37 |
| * inetpro looking to find it | 19:37 | |
| pieter2627 | inetpro: do we have a g+? | 19:37 |
| inetpro | https://plus.google.com/+Ubuntu-zaOrg | 19:38 |
| inetpro | pieter2627: and facebook at http://www.facebook.com/groups/ubuntuza/ | 19:39 |
| pieter2627 | inetpro: i don't 'do' facebook, asked because i think g+ can create calendar event auto for events | 19:40 |
| inetpro | I have not seen a repeat option for g+ events | 19:43 |
| pieter2627 | but it does create a calendar event? (that we can hopefully make public) | 19:44 |
| inetpro | sad thing is you have to register it each time | 19:46 |
| inetpro | not that it is difficult | 19:47 |
| pieter2627 | ok, will have to chat tomorrow - getting tired | 19:47 |
| inetpro | maybe a hosted iCal file would be the bestoption | 19:47 |
| inetpro | best option* | 19:47 |
| inetpro | something that can be integrated across all platforms | 19:48 |
| inetpro | and not dependant on google | 19:48 |
| pieter2627 | the ubuntu-za g+... oh never mind | 19:48 |
| pieter2627 | anyway night all | 19:49 |
| inetpro | good noght... and thanks again | 19:49 |
| Squirm | Good eve | 19:49 |
| inetpro | hi Squirm | 19:49 |
| magespawn | inetpro i am pretty sure google calender can repeat events | 20:00 |
| magespawn | that is hw come i still get the old meeting updates | 20:00 |
| magespawn | s/hw/how | 20:00 |
| inetpro | magespawn: yes it can | 20:00 |
| inetpro | magespawn: but on g+ the option is not there when registering an event | 20:01 |
| magespawn | that is odd | 20:01 |
| magespawn | funny that they should have that funtionality only in one product | 20:04 |
| inetpro | true | 20:04 |
| inetpro | I haven't played enough with it but I'm sure with Thunderbird and the lightning extension you can easily create an iCal file that you can then publish on a website | 20:05 |
| inetpro | many other tools probably exist for this purpose | 20:05 |
| inetpro | then all we need to do is to point people to this URL which anyone can then link to their own calendar of choice | 20:06 |
| inetpro | that would be the right thing to do | 20:08 |
| magespawn | just found this https://support.google.com/calendar/answer/37115?hl=en | 20:09 |
| inetpro | that is if you use Google Calendar | 20:10 |
| magespawn | sorry wrong tab https://support.google.com/plus/answer/2673334?hl=en | 20:11 |
| magespawn | still does not show how to make them repeat though | 20:11 |
| inetpro | not everybody knows how to or even prefers to use the same calendar that everyone else is using | 20:12 |
| magespawn | indeed | 20:13 |
| inetpro | to be honest, proper standards on calendaring is a mess | 20:13 |
| magespawn | i have not ever really looked for anything else, other than google calender | 20:13 |
| magespawn | don't really use it that much | 20:13 |
| Squirm | safair is screwed | 20:14 |
| inetpro | when I started with computing in 1990 calendaring was a mess and after all this time it still is a mess | 20:14 |
| Squirm | Their domain isn't even pointing to their website anymore | 20:15 |
| inetpro | Squirm: what happened? | 20:15 |
| Squirm | They release 30'000 R1 flights today...... | 20:15 |
| kulelu88 | is safair getting hit with an attack? | 20:15 |
| Squirm | They're sold 15'000 the whole day | 20:15 |
| Squirm | s/They're/They've | 20:16 |
| inetpro | eish! | 20:16 |
| Squirm | kulelu88: they're being hit by people | 20:16 |
| Squirm | Their website was crashing every 2 minutes. | 20:16 |
| Squirm | As of a few minutes ago, it's not even redirecting to their home page | 20:16 |
| kulelu88 | what a way to loadtest a site and screw a company over with R1 flights | 20:16 |
| Squirm | Seems Cloudfront was crashing too | 20:17 |
| inetpro | surely they can't call it a server crash? | 20:17 |
| inetpro | or did it really crash? | 20:17 |
| Squirm | Well. I was being thrown an Nginx crash with a hostname of cloudfront | 20:17 |
| Squirm | Have a look at their website? | 20:17 |
| magespawn | it is up for me | 20:17 |
| Squirm | I see a hetzner KonsoleH login | 20:18 |
| kulelu88 | if an average flight to durban costs R400, at a cost of R200 per person, R199 x 15 000 = 3 million rand loss | 20:18 |
| magespawn | but there is an article on ewn about it crashing | 20:18 |
| Squirm | magespawn: I know | 20:18 |
| Squirm | I've been trying to book a flight to Durbs since 2pm | 20:18 |
| magespawn | what url are you using Squirm ? | 20:18 |
| inetpro | is it not just a DDoS rather than a crash? | 20:18 |
| Squirm | https://www.flysafair.co.za/ | 20:18 |
| Squirm | inetpro: it's being accessed by a LOT of people | 20:18 |
| magespawn | try https://www.safair.co.za | 20:18 |
| inetpro | Squirm: obviously | 20:19 |
| kulelu88 | you can silently DDoS them and book 100 tickets for yourself | 20:19 |
| Squirm | magespawn: Same thing | 20:19 |
| Squirm | kulelu88: I think it's about R300 airport tax | 20:19 |
| * inetpro is being directed to a KONSOLE screen | 20:19 | |
| Squirm | So they're making a loss of R300pp | 20:19 |
| Squirm | inetpro: same here | 20:19 |
| Squirm | kulelu88: R300pp and they've put up 30'000 seats | 20:20 |
| Squirm | R3'000'000 loss? | 20:20 |
| magespawn | well safair.co.za is up for me but flysafair.co.za gets a broken page or some mail login page | 20:20 |
| kulelu88 | 9 million if all 30 000 seats are allocated | 20:20 |
| magespawn | do they include or exclude airport tax? | 20:21 |
| Squirm | magespawn: safair.co.za is also getting the KonsoleH login | 20:21 |
| Squirm | it's R1 a flight | 20:21 |
| Squirm | Incl. Airport tax | 20:21 |
| gwood | why not book through some other site? | 20:21 |
| Squirm | The only thing you have to pay for, is baggage in the hold.(You can take 7kg into the plane with you) | 20:21 |
| Squirm | gwood: Tried. Only available on their website | 20:21 |
| kulelu88 | what kind of idiot would pass over their banking/credit-card details on a site that keeps crashing? thats like wearing a hugo boss suit to a mudslinging event | 20:22 |
| Squirm | and kulelu88. Last time I checked, they've sold about 15'500 tickets | 20:22 |
| magespawn | i wonder what the story is | 20:23 |
| Squirm | Not prepared for the mass of usage | 20:23 |
| kulelu88 | pre-shutdown sale? magespawn | 20:23 |
| inetpro | ai! | 20:24 |
| Squirm | heh | 20:24 |
| Squirm | They're only just starting to get going | 20:24 |
| Squirm | First Cpt to Durban flights are end of October | 20:24 |
| Squirm | They're slightly cheaper than Mango(But have fewer flights a day) | 20:24 |
| inetpro | https://twitter.com/FlySafair 12 492 R1 tickets still left to go! 38m ago | 20:25 |
| kulelu88 | what about all those other airlines? purple velvet? kulula? SAA? | 20:25 |
| Squirm | kulelu88: Mango and safair are the cheapest | 20:25 |
| magespawn | kulelu88: looks like they have been in business for about 50 years | 20:26 |
| magespawn | just had a look through the careers section of their website, nothing for IT, they must outsource that | 20:28 |
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| kulelu88 | mehh, south africans do love bargains | 20:30 |
| gwood | I would just go with mango or kulula, too much trouble and stress trying to use a broken site | 20:31 |
| Squirm | magespawn: Seems their domain is hosted with Hetzner and their CDN is Cloudlare | 20:31 |
| kulelu88 | Squirm: i recall someone here saying that cloudflares nearest CDN for africa is london | 20:32 |
| gwood | Squirm: have you tried their call center | 20:32 |
| kulelu88 | gwood: or showing up for your December holiday and R1 ticket only be to told "airline no longer exists" | 20:32 |
| Squirm | gwood: Nope | 20:32 |
| magespawn | hmm, if you try to get there via ip you get redirected to a cloudflare waring page | 20:33 |
| Squirm | Still | 20:33 |
| Squirm | It's R1 | 20:33 |
| Squirm | R1 is worth the risk to me | 20:33 |
| magespawn | s/waring/warning | 20:33 |
| Squirm | It's a R700 Mango flight(Which I usually do), or an attempt at R1 | 20:33 |
| Squirm | I fly once a month to Durban | 20:34 |
| Squirm | This would allow me to fly twice in one month | 20:34 |
| gwood | you need a backup plan if they are out of business by then | 20:34 |
| Squirm | I'll just stay at home | 20:35 |
| Squirm | As I would have :P | 20:35 |
| kulelu88 | if thats the case, why not just go up and down durbs to jhb just to troll them? | 20:35 |
| Squirm | kulelu88: I'd love to | 20:35 |
| Squirm | Would have flown every weekend | 20:35 |
| Squirm | If I could book but one ticket... | 20:35 |
| kulelu88 | book for me too Squirm | 20:36 |
| magespawn | is this for advance bookings or only for a specific period | 20:36 |
| Squirm | Now until the end of March | 20:36 |
| kulelu88 | and 1 ticket for Kilos to go see the beach again | 20:36 |
| magespawn | hell book us a plane we will all come | 20:36 |
| kulelu88 | and for us to see Kilos in a speedo | 20:36 |
| Squirm | Well. Book before 12 tonight, for a flight up until the end of March | 20:36 |
| magespawn | Squirm: next year, wow | 20:36 |
| magespawn | ahh right | 20:37 |
| magespawn | so book one flight a weekend every weekend between now and march | 20:37 |
| kulelu88 | wait a second, hwo do you process a transaction for R1? | 20:37 |
| Squirm | magespawn: I would love to | 20:37 |
| Squirm | kulelu88: same way you would process any transaction | 20:38 |
| Squirm | Their site is back up | 20:38 |
| Squirm | They've extended the sale until mid day tomorrow | 20:50 |
| kulelu88 | Squirm: chill till 4am and then book | 20:50 |
| Squirm | kulelu88: busy setting my alarm for 3 | 20:50 |
| magespawn | shall we see if we can crash it again? | 20:50 |
| magespawn | it might just be up because most people have given up and gone to bed | 20:51 |
| Squirm | Probably | 20:51 |
| Squirm | I still think it's worth the R1 :D | 20:51 |
| magespawn | it would be interesting to see the logstalgia of that server | 20:52 |
| magespawn | one hell of a way to advertise your business | 20:53 |
| Squirm | Yeah | 20:54 |
| inetpro | one hell of a way to stresstest a website | 20:57 |
| Squirm | Our website uses about 15mb per apache process | 20:57 |
| Squirm | If they have 64Gb RAM, that's over 4000 users | 20:57 |
| Squirm | well | 20:57 |
| Squirm | Apache processes | 20:57 |
| Squirm | which could very well be users | 20:57 |
| Squirm | and they're using nginx | 20:58 |
| Squirm | That's a lot of users.... | 20:58 |
| magespawn | isn't nginx more efficient than apache | 20:59 |
| magespawn | ? | 20:59 |
| inetpro | the load difference between apache and nginx is quite significant | 21:00 |
| inetpro | apache is very heavy on resources | 21:00 |
| Squirm | Indeed | 21:00 |
| Squirm | That's why I said it | 21:00 |
| Squirm | So... They either have a little box(which doing something like is isn't a good idea), or, there are more than 4'000 users hitting the site | 21:01 |
| Squirm | A lot more | 21:01 |
| inetpro | Squirm: and you are talking about users per second? | 21:02 |
| magespawn | how much would nginx use per visitor? | 21:02 |
| Squirm | inetpro: Well. Once the site has loaded, nginx won't be doing much anymore until the user selects another link | 21:03 |
| superfly | Apache and nginx are made for two different things | 21:04 |
| * Squirm shrugs | 21:04 | |
| Squirm | magespawn: not sure | 21:05 |
| magespawn | i thought nginx was used for the web access on things like router etc | 21:05 |
| * inetpro calling it a day | 21:06 | |
| inetpro | good night | 21:06 |
| magespawn | good night inetpro | 21:06 |
| Squirm | I'm also off | 21:07 |
| MaNL | judging by the amount of talking above and elsewhere the R1 idea was genius marketing | 21:08 |
| MaNL | nobody was talking about them now everyone is | 21:08 |
| MaNL | no su ch thing as bad press. | 21:08 |
| MaNL | *shrugs* | 21:08 |
| Squirm | MaNL: Indeed | 21:08 |
| Squirm | Well, there is. But excellant marketing | 21:09 |
| Squirm | lol | 21:09 |
| Squirm | Gnight all | 21:09 |
| MaNL | I've already flown them a few times personally and their flights had empty seats | 21:09 |
| MaNL | they will be filling those empty seats mostly, no loss | 21:10 |
| === MaNL is now known as MaNI | ||
| superfly | MaNI: How's your solar project going? | 21:10 |
| MaNI | heh, I got a bit sidetracked by some life events | 21:11 |
| MaNI | but recently finished the frame, should be up and running by month end (hopefully) | 21:11 |
| MaNI | I need to have it up before koeberg maintenance and next round of load shedding :p | 21:11 |
| superfly | I'd love to do that, but until I actually own my own house, no point. | 21:12 |
| magespawn | MaNI: any pictures or diagrammes? | 21:16 |
| MaNI | heh, yeah might not impress your landlord | 21:16 |
| MaNI | I'll do a blog writeup with pictures when its operational | 21:16 |
| kulelu88 | at this rate, probably better to buy a house outside of africa | 21:17 |
| MaNI | got various pictures but haven't had time to go through them, last month been crazy for me | 21:17 |
| magespawn | cool bean MaNI, no rush | 21:17 |
| MaNI | fiance had her transplant that we have been waiting a long time for, good way to fall behind on work :p | 21:18 |
| kulelu88 | superfly: how do lambdas work? | 21:21 |
| magespawn | MaNI: congratulations | 21:22 |
| superfly | kulelu88: it's like declaring a function in one line... myfunc = lambda arg1: arg1 + 1 | 21:22 |
| superfly | kulelu88: it has an implicit return | 21:22 |
| superfly | print myfunc(1) | 21:23 |
| superfly | 2 | 21:23 |
| MaNI | thanks | 21:23 |
| superfly | MaNI: glad she got the transplant, I've heard that the queues are of epic proportions | 21:24 |
| kulelu88 | superfly: is this the same lambdas that are spoken about concerning language design? | 21:24 |
| superfly | kulelu88: I'm guessing so | 21:24 |
| kulelu88 | I'm using lambdas like this: .apply(lambda x: x[x.str.contains('Some text')].count()) | 21:26 |
| MaNI | yeah they queues can be pretty long, though it depends on lots of factors as it isn't really 'first in first out', in her case ~2 years which is relatively quick (though doesn't feel like it if you are the one waiting) | 21:26 |
| kulelu88 | MaNI: organ? | 21:26 |
| MaNI | kidney + pancreas | 21:26 |
| kulelu88 | 2 years is short definitely | 21:27 |
| magespawn | wow hectic stuff MaNI | 21:27 |
| kulelu88 | as long as shes healing now MaNI +1 | 21:28 |
| magespawn | just hit refreash on the flysafair.co.za and got it with a cloudfare please be patient we re checking your browser page | 21:28 |
| magespawn | only 10602 tickets left now | 21:28 |
| MaNI | yeah, she is doing fantastic - already back in CT (op in JHB) and its only a month later | 21:28 |
| MaNI | really amazing the difference this stuff makes | 21:29 |
| magespawn | cool beans | 21:29 |
| kulelu88 | magespawn: are you hitting F5 1000 times per minute? | 21:29 |
| MaNI | competition is probably all asleep now | 21:29 |
| magespawn | nope, that would be impressive, might break the F5 button | 21:29 |
| magespawn | refresh | 21:30 |
| magespawn | spelling and typing out the windows tonight | 21:30 |
| magespawn | on that note, good night all | 21:34 |
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