[06:21] Good morning [06:31] hi [06:37] Morning [06:59] Good mornings [08:45] morning all you za peeps [09:00] everyone asleep today :P [09:01] * TinuvaMac ZzZzZzzzzzz... [09:05] they all went into a coma after seeing the exchange rate [09:14] Heh [09:14] How is everyone? [09:21] lol [09:47] I don't know how that is Kilos? [09:48] oh sorry Squirm its was meant for the other two [09:48] im ok ty and you lad [09:49] peeps gotta realise that channels are only quiet because everyone is saying nothing [10:24] [10:25] * pieter2627 also saying nothing :p === deegee is now known as drussell === drussell is now known as Guest75778 [11:57] * inetpro joins in to say nothing as well [11:57] [12:47] lol [12:47] noisy bunch [12:48] shh oom, it's an unofficial prayer hours :p [12:49] hehe [12:50] was gister ook stil sonder oom - dalk vyf sinne [12:51] ai! [12:51] julle moet dinge aan die roer hou man [12:51] al is dit net om mekaar te groet [12:52] hierdie is ons buntu familie [12:52] en familie groet mekaar [12:52] die sinne was om mekaar te groet [12:52] lol [13:04] igo sllep awhile [13:04] sleep [13:28] moo [13:42] * Squirm prods superfly [13:43] ohi Squirm [13:43] Hey [13:50] sitting at the Google Developer Summit [13:55] Nice [13:55] it's pretty much done now, going home === deegee is now known as drussell [16:06] yo [18:04] sup [18:07] hi superfly and everyone else [18:07] Hi Kilos [18:08] I don't know where everyone else is, it looks like it's just you and me, Kilos [18:08] hehewe are early [18:08] pieter2627 is chairing [18:09] hi qwebirc36238 [18:09] hope you're early, else i'm late [18:09] meeting starts at 8.30pm [18:10] im here [18:10] pieter2627 has you got permissions for Maaz [18:10] hi kulelu88 [18:10] hi nlsthzn hows you and family lad [18:11] Kilos: yes [18:11] ood [18:11] good too [18:11] hey uncle Kilos , all - family all back in foreign land and cooking in the summer heat thanks, all well in ZA I hope? [18:12] good evening [18:12] so far yes ty nlsthzn [18:12] hi inetpro [18:17] so meeting in a few minutes yes? [18:20] nlsthzn: yep, and that with new chairman and all [18:23] hi unlaudable welcome to ubuntu-za [18:23] cool [18:25] I bet I'm the only one here from Port Elizabeth [18:25] \nick [18:26] Kilos, thanks \o === qwebirc36238 is now known as gwood [18:26] haha hi brad [18:27] Miles? [18:27] yessir [18:27] PE has internet? *mind blown* [18:27] lol [18:27] * superfly will be back in a minute or 3 [18:27] kulelu88, they even have an *airport* [18:27] kulelu88: Axxess is from PE [18:28] ok superfly [18:29] aalston, lo buddy [18:29] superfly: their service has been so shitty lately that they themselves admitted it through email "has our service been bad for you?" [18:30] seems that we should start? [18:30] my University is having really internet, some line break [18:30] good idea [18:31] Maaz: start meeting about Ubuntu Monthly Meeting - Aug 2015 [18:31] * Maaz gets out his memo-pad and cracks his knuckles [18:31] Maaz: I am Gustav H Meyer [18:31] inetpro: Alrighty [18:31] gwood: which varsity? [18:31] NMMU [18:31] schweet [18:31] Maaz: topic Welcoming and Introduction [18:31] Current Topic: Welcoming and Introduction [18:31] Maaz: I am Grant Woodford [18:31] gwood: Sure [18:31] Maaz: I am Raoul Snyman [18:31] superfly: Sure [18:31] Good evening everyone, welcome and thanks for attending the meeting [18:32] Maaz: I am kulelu88 [18:32] kulelu88: Okay [18:32] Please introduce yourselves to maaz for the minutes using `Maaz: I am ` eg. [18:32] Maaz: I am Charl le Roux [18:32] clr_: Okay [18:32] Maaz: I am Pieter Engelbrecht [18:32] pieter2627: Righto [18:32] the agenda for today is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Meetings/20150825 [18:33] Maaz: I am Bradley Cloete [18:33] unlaudable: Okay [18:33] and last minute topic suggestions is welcomed if anyone has any [18:33] * nlsthzn would love to stay but bed calls... gnight [18:34] Maaz I am Miles Sharpe [18:34] Kilos: Alrighty [18:34] topic: how on earth does safair's website not cope even when using cloudflare :-) [18:35] haha [18:35] Kilos: anyone still seem missing? [18:35] welcome to our new chairman [18:35] octoquad ping [18:35] Maaz: topic Review minutes of previous meeting [18:35] Current Topic: Review minutes of previous meeting [18:35] many missing [18:36] oh yes, thanks pieter2627 for taking the hot seat this evening [18:36] while we wait for others the previous meeting's minutes can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Meetings/20150728 [18:36] good evening [18:36] hi magespawn [18:37] magespawn meeting hey so login please [18:37] Kilos, hello. [18:37] Hello all [18:38] yoohoo octoquad wb you attending the meeting sir? [18:38] sure, forgot there was one tonight, thanks for pinging me [18:38] Maaz: I am Bruce Pieterse [18:38] octoquad: Sure [18:39] Squirm nuvolari MaNI you guys are welcome to attend [18:40] and ambo bmg505 cyrilb danfowler and whoever ive missed [18:40] everyone ok with the minutes from last meeting? [18:41] Private_User are you attending?? [18:41] Looks OK to me, I don't think I was here. [18:42] not that i can remember superfly [18:42] good evening (again) [18:42] right, moving on then [18:43] Maaz: topic Plans for 2015 [18:43] Current Topic: Plans for 2015 [18:43] wb magespawn [18:43] Maaz I am Greg Eames [18:43] magespawn: Sure [18:43] ping gremble [18:43] he is offline here [18:44] i guess it is the usual for plans... [18:44] a question, 'Get more people to join [link to site]' - is that correct [18:45] Are there any plans/events close to PE? [18:45] it link to ubuntu za site.. [18:45] inetpro ^# [18:45] 3 [18:45] pieter2627: you have a better suggestion? [18:46] if people don't know about ubuntu-za where would they start? [18:46] ai! i cant get use to this lappy b/board [18:46] no, just wondering how one joins a website [18:46] fair point [18:46] there are join buttons arent there [18:46] to join us not the sight [18:46] * pieter2627 checking [18:47] anyone here use meetup.com? [18:47] it says right there, "Please join us in using, working on, and helping others with Ubuntu." [18:47] me unlaudable [18:47] there is an irc direc link to here ans the ML should be there too [18:47] it seems to be the popular way to organise an event these days, might work for this to [18:47] unlaudable, me [18:48] inetpro: ok [18:48] unlaudable: there is already LUGs on meetup, so linux-related stuff happens [18:49] unlaudable: we are not organised enough? :-) [18:49] anyone signed or planning on signing COC, membership, got LP IDs? [18:50] * unlaudable cant remember if he's signed... [18:50] have a launchpad id... [18:50] hehe what a job [18:50] sorry meaning for last/this month [18:50] anyone that has probs ping pro [18:51] I was just mentioning meetup as a way to enable people to "join" [18:51] convenience... [18:51] for inspiration see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kilos [18:51] ai! [18:51] some people also like to have other people to talk to [18:51] unlaudable, you mean alternative platforms to connect right? [18:52] well meetup wont do that, I was just thinking as a way to add to a calendar of sorts and be reminded [18:52] inetpro we can add our meets to the fridge [18:52] * inetpro has never used meetup [18:53] seems that it can also inform unaware users of us [18:53] we=you of course [18:53] the peeps that savvy thunderbird can get reminders [18:53] there are a ton of communities on there jozilug, ansible puppet [18:53] then [18:53] I suggest you guys connect with JLUG to attract users here. they already have the target-market [18:53] * unlaudable has a dream that there would be an event one day that will join them all :-) [18:54] sorry unlaudable i thought you meant meetups as in launch parties etc [18:54] I think it makes sense to plan an event, but give notice through multiple avenues, such as meetup, facebooks, email, etc. [18:54] one event to rule them all [18:54] Maaz: idea add meeting to the fridge [18:54] Idea recorded: add meeting to the fridge [18:54] Maaz: idea add meeting to meetup.com [18:54] Idea recorded: add meeting to meetup.com [18:54] unlaudable: you cannot have 1 event where linux, BSD, Java and Haskell guys all get along. [18:55] and google calender pieter2627 [18:55] HAHAHAHA [18:55] heheh perhaps... [18:55] Kilos: are we not there already [18:55] and how? [18:55] i have no idea pieter2627 thats pros department [18:55] but there is some synergy somewhere, the devops/ansible meetup guys had Jez Humble out for one meeting :-) [18:55] he did all mine [18:56] he also does G+ reminders [18:56] unlaudable: join "Developer User Group", its close enough I think [18:56] I regularly have fights with a Julia guy at varsity, I'm mainly a Java guy [18:56] Maaz: idea add meeting to a public google calendar [18:56] Idea recorded: add meeting to a public google calendar [18:56] ok, any else for plan anyone? [18:56] gwood: no person at varsity should be calling themselves a Java guy in 2015 :O [18:56] s/any/anything/ [18:57] pieter2627: let's move on. [18:57] Maaz: topic Events [18:57] Current Topic: Events [18:57] kulelu88: I do when 80% of my project is Java [18:57] we've already been here half an hour and we haven't even got past the first half of the agenda [18:58] lol [18:58] ai! [18:58] (seriously, every meeting we have those items on the agenda, and every meeting the outcome is the same: nothing) [18:58] superfly: can you tell us of the google summit today - quickly [18:58] pieter2627: Yes [18:58] is there a person appointed to broadcast meetings and such? [18:59] unlaudable the pro [18:59] superfly: the only way things can get done in this country is complaining about government over a braai and doing the work on the side [18:59] 'k [18:59] The local Google crew came to introduce us to some of the newer stuff Google has been working on. I was on the "web" track, where we learnt about some new browser standards that Google has been pushing: ServiceWorkers and Push Notifications [19:00] superfly: interesting [19:00] We had a competition to see who could finish both codelab projects first, and I'm sad to say it wasn't me, but it WAS a guy running Ubuntu [19:00] unlaudable: I've been a bit slack lately, sorry [19:00] lol [19:00] that sounds awesome [19:01] it is now official, cape town has some cool stuff [19:01] sounds cool [19:01] inetpro, dont beat yourself up :-) [19:01] also remember SFD is 19 sept [19:01] Not much more I can say, but if you want to know about ServiceWorkers and Push Notifications, I am happy to chat afterwards [19:01] cape town has some amazing tech meetings [19:01] unlaudable: I don't :-) [19:01] * pieter2627 is kind of sad that it was only in CPT [19:02] pieter2627: not only in Cape Town, also in Nigeria and Nairobi, Kenya [19:02] superfly: sounds interesting [19:02] anything else happened this month or happening in the one to ome? [19:02] hi kapanda [19:02] I have some feedback on SFD [19:02] hi kilos [19:02] reminder that PyConZA is happening in October in Johannesburg/Wits [19:03] I only learned today about this... agile africa http://agileafrica.jcse.org.za/ [19:03] you want to join our meeting kapanda ? [19:03] just type in Maaz I am name surname [19:03] yes please [19:03] I'm keen to got pycon, not really a programmer though :-) [19:04] I spoke with Karl Fischer (kmf) earlier. He says that they have a few speakers lined up... But he would like some Ubuntu people involved for perhaps a talk or something. And they need more sponsorship. [19:04] we have very little time left until the SFD event [19:04] This is SFD [19:04] yep kmf is seriously looking for Speakers, Volunteers and donors for the SFD event [19:04] * pieter2627 might be able to attend - can help volunteer then [19:05] SFD needs to advertise better. tweeting out requests wont help [19:05] kulelu88: it's a bit of a grass roots thing, so it needs the community to help out [19:05] kulelu88: is that more of our jobs (personally have not done anything) [19:06] superfly: suggest they make a meetup group and I'll assist through that [19:07] any news on the installFest from CPT inetpro? [19:07] pieter2627: no news unfortunately [19:07] hi clr_ [19:08] wanna login with Maaz please [19:08] ouch, moving on then? [19:08] oh, kmf saying the venue for SFD has been paid for [19:08] hi Vince-0 wb [19:08] hi [19:08] obviously donors would be welcome to help ease the bill [19:09] I have before [19:09] oh my did i miss it [19:09] sorry [19:09] clr_: kilos means signin for the meeting [19:09] yes ty [19:09] what kind of talks are you looking for at the SFD [19:10] hehe pieter2627 , I have before, was just logged out there for a mo [19:10] `Maaz: I am [19:10] pieter2627, he has at 20:32:09 [19:10] ai! us blind peeps [19:10] kapanda: anything open-source friendly and relevant should do [19:10] haha, thanks octoquad [19:10] pieter2627, np [19:11] ok moving on [19:11] but talks at the intermediate level would be better [19:11] Maaz: topic Miscellaneous [19:11] Current Topic: Miscellaneous [19:12] might have been to fast there, anyway Kilos any news on getting involved with lugs, etc? [19:13] kulelu88 got some of the jozilug guys here but they only stayed one day or less [19:13] anyone who wants to talk in more detail about SFD please talk to us here after the meeting or post an email to the mailing list [19:13] kulelu88 can you remind them again please [19:13] kulelu88: any feedback [19:14] ... that you might have gotten [19:14] I am a member of the jozilug [19:14] pieter2627 i greeted them and welcome them but maybe they were expecting more action here [19:14] oh yes thats right sorry kapanda [19:15] there was someone else with you as well that day [19:15] for ubuntu-in-the-wild, my list is at 4 items - have to confirm(get) two after tomorrows meeting [19:15] kapanda is heavily involved with the LUG, please arrange for LUG members to troll #ubuntu-za @ kapanda [19:16] superfly: you mentioned that nikola can create a photo gallery [19:16] hehe [19:16] yes [19:16] pieter2627: it's pretty easy. you just drop photos into the one folder and Nikola does it for you [19:16] What is this talk about ubuntu-in-the-wild? [19:17] gwood: Agenda: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Meetings/20150728 [19:17] superfly: is captions possible? [19:17] pieter2627: I'm not sure [19:17] most lug members like there own flavor of linux, so its hard to get them to support Ubuntu. [19:18] gwood: to add a section to the za site which is to show that ubuntu is more popular than one might think [19:18] I use Ubuntu for the Tech Hub am running [19:18] that is how i remember it at least [19:18] kapanda we all need to pull together to promote all of linux [19:18] OS is a personal thing [19:18] pieter2627: thanks [19:19] pieter2627: https://getnikola.com/handbook.html#images-and-galleries [19:20] superfly: that index.txt file seems to be it for captions [19:20] pieter2627: no, it's for general text on the page [19:21] above the images [19:21] Very fringe, but Ubuntu is the only officially supported OS for some robotics frameworks I've been looking into: http://www.ros.org/ [19:21] Am all in for Linux [19:21] superfly: oh, from the demo it seems that a caption is created from the filename [19:22] nikola is a static site generator? [19:22] yes [19:22] you seen hugo? [19:23] kapanda: as i understand it, we want to be more involved to better help new users [19:23] for python, looks quite interesting [19:23] our site and the africa sites run nikola [19:23] static site generator written in go looks pretty good... [19:23] Kilos: am i correct? [19:23] Kilos, ah cool [19:23] correct pieter2627 we welcome any linux users [19:24] kapanda: we don't mind if people divert to other distros [19:24] important is that we catch those who experience Linux for the first time using Ubuntu and make it a smooth experience as far as possible [19:24] anything else for misc? [19:25] Maaz: topic Elect chairperson for next meeting [19:25] Current Topic: Elect chairperson for next meeting [19:25] Sure, I also introduce people to Ubuntu first then show them other distros [19:25] we have yum peeps here too hehe [19:26] Maaz pieter2627 ++ [19:26] * Kilos votes for pieter2627 [19:26] * inetpro votes +1 for pieter2627 [19:26] * pieter2627 would like to sit out the next one [19:26] oh my [19:26] hmm... [19:26] you did well pieter2627 [19:27] just to check others again -can backup [19:27] hard work chairing [19:27] I vote Kilos [19:27] * pieter2627 rofl [19:28] lol kulelu88 you tried that before [19:28] anyone else want to volunteer before we vote pieter2627 again? [19:28] giving 30 sec [19:28] pieter2627: you can do it again man [19:28] pieter2627 you in the groove, it gets easier [19:28] first one is the big one [19:28] Maaz: agreed pieter2627 to chair next meeting [19:28] Agreed: pieter2627 to chair next meeting [19:29] nice! [19:29] imo you did well [19:29] thanks pieter2627 [19:29] Maaz: topic Next meeting [19:29] Current Topic: Next meeting [19:29] next meeting is at 22 Sept hope you all can join again [19:29] that date is right inetpro? [19:30] im going in tha day for an op [19:30] pieter2627: looks correct [19:30] every 4th Tuesday of the month [19:30] so you guys have to be greeter bots too [19:30] Maaz: agreed next meeting on Tuesday, 22 September 2015 @ 20:30 [19:30] Agreed: next meeting on Tuesday, 22 September 2015 @ 20:30 [19:30] thats a wrap thanks for attending everyone [19:31] good timing! [19:31] Maaz: end meeting [19:31] Meeting Ended [19:31] Minutes available at json: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2015-08-25-18-31-10.json :: txt: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2015-08-25-18-31-10.txt :: html: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2015-08-25-18-31-10.html [19:31] pieter2627 thanks alot for chairing toning and for standing in for next month as well [19:31] tonight [19:31] Kilos: np [19:31] its nice to know we have another backup chair [19:32] now i need to sleep guys, ty everyone for attending [19:32] Kilos: what op you in for if you don't mind me asking? [19:33] hernia pieter2627 [19:33] looks a smallish job from wha the docs say [19:33] dan vloek die oom my ook nog :p [19:33] what [19:33] skuus man [19:33] hehe [19:33] breek [19:33] oh [19:33] breuk [19:34] daai ding ook ja dankie inetpro [19:34] the meds im on atm make me sleepy most of the day [19:34] sorry guys [19:35] rebore resleave and new pistons and rings and ill be like new [19:35] pieter2627: I guess we can do a better job in advertising our next meeting again [19:36] * inetpro only registered the g+ event yesterday [19:36] inetpro: i'm gonna see to create a public google calendar tomorrow [19:37] pieter2627: we actually did have one [19:37] * inetpro looking to find it [19:37] inetpro: do we have a g+? [19:38] https://plus.google.com/+Ubuntu-zaOrg [19:39] pieter2627: and facebook at http://www.facebook.com/groups/ubuntuza/ [19:40] inetpro: i don't 'do' facebook, asked because i think g+ can create calendar event auto for events [19:43] I have not seen a repeat option for g+ events [19:44] but it does create a calendar event? (that we can hopefully make public) [19:46] sad thing is you have to register it each time [19:47] not that it is difficult [19:47] ok, will have to chat tomorrow - getting tired [19:47] maybe a hosted iCal file would be the bestoption [19:47] best option* [19:48] something that can be integrated across all platforms [19:48] and not dependant on google [19:48] the ubuntu-za g+... oh never mind [19:49] anyway night all [19:49] good noght... and thanks again [19:49] Good eve [19:49] hi Squirm [20:00] inetpro i am pretty sure google calender can repeat events [20:00] that is hw come i still get the old meeting updates [20:00] s/hw/how [20:00] magespawn: yes it can [20:01] magespawn: but on g+ the option is not there when registering an event [20:01] that is odd [20:04] funny that they should have that funtionality only in one product [20:04] true [20:05] I haven't played enough with it but I'm sure with Thunderbird and the lightning extension you can easily create an iCal file that you can then publish on a website [20:05] many other tools probably exist for this purpose [20:06] then all we need to do is to point people to this URL which anyone can then link to their own calendar of choice [20:08] that would be the right thing to do [20:09] just found this https://support.google.com/calendar/answer/37115?hl=en [20:10] that is if you use Google Calendar [20:11] sorry wrong tab https://support.google.com/plus/answer/2673334?hl=en [20:11] still does not show how to make them repeat though [20:12] not everybody knows how to or even prefers to use the same calendar that everyone else is using [20:13] indeed [20:13] to be honest, proper standards on calendaring is a mess [20:13] i have not ever really looked for anything else, other than google calender [20:13] don't really use it that much [20:14] safair is screwed [20:14] when I started with computing in 1990 calendaring was a mess and after all this time it still is a mess [20:15] Their domain isn't even pointing to their website anymore [20:15] Squirm: what happened? [20:15] They release 30'000 R1 flights today...... [20:15] is safair getting hit with an attack? [20:15] They're sold 15'000 the whole day [20:16] s/They're/They've [20:16] eish! [20:16] kulelu88: they're being hit by people [20:16] Their website was crashing every 2 minutes. [20:16] As of a few minutes ago, it's not even redirecting to their home page [20:16] what a way to loadtest a site and screw a company over with R1 flights [20:17] Seems Cloudfront was crashing too [20:17] surely they can't call it a server crash? [20:17] or did it really crash? [20:17] Well. I was being thrown an Nginx crash with a hostname of cloudfront [20:17] Have a look at their website? [20:17] it is up for me [20:18] I see a hetzner KonsoleH login [20:18] if an average flight to durban costs R400, at a cost of R200 per person, R199 x 15 000 = 3 million rand loss [20:18] but there is an article on ewn about it crashing [20:18] magespawn: I know [20:18] I've been trying to book a flight to Durbs since 2pm [20:18] what url are you using Squirm ? [20:18] is it not just a DDoS rather than a crash? [20:18] https://www.flysafair.co.za/ [20:18] inetpro: it's being accessed by a LOT of people [20:18] try https://www.safair.co.za [20:19] Squirm: obviously [20:19] you can silently DDoS them and book 100 tickets for yourself [20:19] magespawn: Same thing [20:19] kulelu88: I think it's about R300 airport tax [20:19] * inetpro is being directed to a KONSOLE screen [20:19] So they're making a loss of R300pp [20:19] inetpro: same here [20:20] kulelu88: R300pp and they've put up 30'000 seats [20:20] R3'000'000 loss? [20:20] well safair.co.za is up for me but flysafair.co.za gets a broken page or some mail login page [20:20] 9 million if all 30 000 seats are allocated [20:21] do they include or exclude airport tax? [20:21] magespawn: safair.co.za is also getting the KonsoleH login [20:21] it's R1 a flight [20:21] Incl. Airport tax [20:21] why not book through some other site? [20:21] The only thing you have to pay for, is baggage in the hold.(You can take 7kg into the plane with you) [20:21] gwood: Tried. Only available on their website [20:22] what kind of idiot would pass over their banking/credit-card details on a site that keeps crashing? thats like wearing a hugo boss suit to a mudslinging event [20:22] and kulelu88. Last time I checked, they've sold about 15'500 tickets [20:23] i wonder what the story is [20:23] Not prepared for the mass of usage [20:23] pre-shutdown sale? magespawn [20:24] ai! [20:24] heh [20:24] They're only just starting to get going [20:24] First Cpt to Durban flights are end of October [20:24] They're slightly cheaper than Mango(But have fewer flights a day) [20:25] https://twitter.com/FlySafair 12 492 R1 tickets still left to go! 38m ago [20:25] what about all those other airlines? purple velvet? kulula? SAA? [20:25] kulelu88: Mango and safair are the cheapest [20:26] kulelu88: looks like they have been in business for about 50 years [20:28] just had a look through the careers section of their website, nothing for IT, they must outsource that === ChanServ changed the topic of #ubuntu-za to: Ubuntu South Africa https://ubuntu-za.org | pastebin: http://bin.snyman.info | picpaste: http://pasteboard.co | Logs: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com | Next Meeting: Tue, 22 September 20:30, Agenda: http://bit.ly/1UbIJ05 [20:30] mehh, south africans do love bargains [20:31] I would just go with mango or kulula, too much trouble and stress trying to use a broken site [20:31] magespawn: Seems their domain is hosted with Hetzner and their CDN is Cloudlare [20:32] Squirm: i recall someone here saying that cloudflares nearest CDN for africa is london [20:32] Squirm: have you tried their call center [20:32] gwood: or showing up for your December holiday and R1 ticket only be to told "airline no longer exists" [20:32] gwood: Nope [20:33] hmm, if you try to get there via ip you get redirected to a cloudflare waring page [20:33] Still [20:33] It's R1 [20:33] R1 is worth the risk to me [20:33] s/waring/warning [20:33] It's a R700 Mango flight(Which I usually do), or an attempt at R1 [20:34] I fly once a month to Durban [20:34] This would allow me to fly twice in one month [20:34] you need a backup plan if they are out of business by then [20:35] I'll just stay at home [20:35] As I would have :P [20:35] if thats the case, why not just go up and down durbs to jhb just to troll them? [20:35] kulelu88: I'd love to [20:35] Would have flown every weekend [20:35] If I could book but one ticket... [20:36] book for me too Squirm [20:36] is this for advance bookings or only for a specific period [20:36] Now until the end of March [20:36] and 1 ticket for Kilos to go see the beach again [20:36] hell book us a plane we will all come [20:36] and for us to see Kilos in a speedo [20:36] Well. Book before 12 tonight, for a flight up until the end of March [20:36] Squirm: next year, wow [20:37] ahh right [20:37] so book one flight a weekend every weekend between now and march [20:37] wait a second, hwo do you process a transaction for R1? [20:37] magespawn: I would love to [20:38] kulelu88: same way you would process any transaction [20:38] Their site is back up [20:50] They've extended the sale until mid day tomorrow [20:50] Squirm: chill till 4am and then book [20:50] kulelu88: busy setting my alarm for 3 [20:50] shall we see if we can crash it again? [20:51] it might just be up because most people have given up and gone to bed [20:51] Probably [20:51] I still think it's worth the R1 :D [20:52] it would be interesting to see the logstalgia of that server [20:53] one hell of a way to advertise your business [20:54] Yeah [20:57] one hell of a way to stresstest a website [20:57] Our website uses about 15mb per apache process [20:57] If they have 64Gb RAM, that's over 4000 users [20:57] well [20:57] Apache processes [20:57] which could very well be users [20:58] and they're using nginx [20:58] That's a lot of users.... [20:59] isn't nginx more efficient than apache [20:59] ? [21:00] the load difference between apache and nginx is quite significant [21:00] apache is very heavy on resources [21:00] Indeed [21:00] That's why I said it [21:01] So... They either have a little box(which doing something like is isn't a good idea), or, there are more than 4'000 users hitting the site [21:01] A lot more [21:02] Squirm: and you are talking about users per second? [21:02] how much would nginx use per visitor? [21:03] inetpro: Well. Once the site has loaded, nginx won't be doing much anymore until the user selects another link [21:04] Apache and nginx are made for two different things [21:04] * Squirm shrugs [21:05] magespawn: not sure [21:05] i thought nginx was used for the web access on things like router etc [21:06] * inetpro calling it a day [21:06] good night [21:06] good night inetpro [21:07] I'm also off [21:08] judging by the amount of talking above and elsewhere the R1 idea was genius marketing [21:08] nobody was talking about them now everyone is [21:08] no su ch thing as bad press. [21:08] *shrugs* [21:08] MaNL: Indeed [21:09] Well, there is. But excellant marketing [21:09] lol [21:09] Gnight all [21:09] I've already flown them a few times personally and their flights had empty seats [21:10] they will be filling those empty seats mostly, no loss === MaNL is now known as MaNI [21:10] MaNI: How's your solar project going? [21:11] heh, I got a bit sidetracked by some life events [21:11] but recently finished the frame, should be up and running by month end (hopefully) [21:11] I need to have it up before koeberg maintenance and next round of load shedding :p [21:12] I'd love to do that, but until I actually own my own house, no point. [21:16] MaNI: any pictures or diagrammes? [21:16] heh, yeah might not impress your landlord [21:16] I'll do a blog writeup with pictures when its operational [21:17] at this rate, probably better to buy a house outside of africa [21:17] got various pictures but haven't had time to go through them, last month been crazy for me [21:17] cool bean MaNI, no rush [21:18] fiance had her transplant that we have been waiting a long time for, good way to fall behind on work :p [21:21] superfly: how do lambdas work? [21:22] MaNI: congratulations [21:22] kulelu88: it's like declaring a function in one line... myfunc = lambda arg1: arg1 + 1 [21:22] kulelu88: it has an implicit return [21:23] print myfunc(1) [21:23] 2 [21:23] thanks [21:24] MaNI: glad she got the transplant, I've heard that the queues are of epic proportions [21:24] superfly: is this the same lambdas that are spoken about concerning language design? [21:24] kulelu88: I'm guessing so [21:26] I'm using lambdas like this: .apply(lambda x: x[x.str.contains('Some text')].count()) [21:26] yeah they queues can be pretty long, though it depends on lots of factors as it isn't really 'first in first out', in her case ~2 years which is relatively quick (though doesn't feel like it if you are the one waiting) [21:26] MaNI: organ? [21:26] kidney + pancreas [21:27] 2 years is short definitely [21:27] wow hectic stuff MaNI [21:28] as long as shes healing now MaNI +1 [21:28] just hit refreash on the flysafair.co.za and got it with a cloudfare please be patient we re checking your browser page [21:28] only 10602 tickets left now [21:28] yeah, she is doing fantastic - already back in CT (op in JHB) and its only a month later [21:29] really amazing the difference this stuff makes [21:29] cool beans [21:29] magespawn: are you hitting F5 1000 times per minute? [21:29] competition is probably all asleep now [21:29] nope, that would be impressive, might break the F5 button [21:30] refresh [21:30] spelling and typing out the windows tonight [21:34] on that note, good night all