[00:00] <brad_> I'm trying to do xbindkeys for my mouse's alternate buttons. I can link b:9 to regular keypresses, but how do I get it to do volume up?
[00:02] <excesseye> 0
[00:06] <itspara> I was running updates today and my computer got turned off while restarting afterwards. How can I check what may have not been fully updated as a result?
[00:12] <MichaelHabib> Hi everyone,
[00:12] <MichaelHabib> I have an off-toppic question, trying to find a business name for my Online-Offline Marketing Business, I got  FotuneLabs  .. do you think this is a good name ?
[00:13] <squidly> MichaelHabib: its meh
[00:13] <squidly> but that is just MHO. go with what you like
[00:14] <squidly> Anyone here have a SCSI tape library that is not showing up though a ServRaid-7K
[00:15] <antonio_> eiii
[00:15] <squidly> antonio_: ??
[00:15] <MichaelHabib> squidly: ty, the business name is more about how others see it so your opinion is very valuable.
[00:16] <squidly> MichaelHabib: Very true
[00:17] <MichaelHabib> squidly: what about Cleverbiz
[00:17] <squidly> IDK.. THat is kind of cheezy IMHO.
[00:18] <squidly> what is your business doing?
[00:18] <MichaelHabib> Web design, Graphic Design & Marketing (offline & online marketing)
[00:19] <squidly> MarketMan?
[00:20] <MichaelHabib> trying  not to limit the business type within the name, i'm starting now & the business could shift in another direction with time ..
[00:20] <Nikesh> What is happening here, why are there so many Firefox processes running (with just one window open and 9 tabs) --> http://i.imgur.com/5cC2niG.png ???
[00:23] <bazhang> !ot | MichaelHabib
[00:34] <auk> Nikesh: they might just be subprocesses? i have bunch too:
[00:37] <auk> Nikesh: https://imgur.com/yU19LGN
[00:37] <ThePengwin> Nikesh, auk: press f5 in top, and it will show you subprocesses.
[00:37] <ab0> is there any way to get netflix to work besides using chrome. i stay away from google products when i can.
[00:37] <auk> ThePengwin: yeah i keep it that way ^
[00:37] <ThePengwin> like what auk has posted :)
[00:38] <auk> :)
[00:39] <Nikesh> ThePengwin: Ah OK
[00:39] <Nikesh> Thanks :)
[00:39] <auk> still, i'm surprised by the quantity of them...
[00:40] <ab0> ??
[00:40] <ab0> i know this may not be a ubuntu specific problem, but idk, im just hoping there was a solution
[00:42] <Nikesh> auk: Yes, especially for just ONE tab!
[00:43] <auk> Nikesh: only tangentially related, but: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/Firefox/Multiprocess_Firefox
[00:44] <zakariaqadomi> hi
[00:45] <bxx> I had to patch /etc/grub.d/10_linux ; what can I do to protect this patched file from updates ?
[00:47] <rasusto> hello all. Can someone help me? I'm trying to compile gnu screen from source
[00:47] <somsip> rasusto: why?
[00:47] <rasusto> I'm trying to install it locally on a machine where I don't have root
[00:48] <somsip> rasusto: compiling is not normally support here but maybe it's a simple issue. What's the problem?
[00:51] <rasusto> I run ./configure and there is a dependency error for something called tgetent. I googled it and it's in a package called termcap. The thing is, I don't have root and I don't know to to install that package locally so I can compile
[00:52] <somsip> rasusto: I'd recommend contacting your sysadmin
[00:52] <auk> rasusto: i hear there's also linuxbrew that might help your problem
[00:53] <auk> rasusto: homebrew but for linux, facilitates non-root installs
[00:53] <auk> rasusto: http://brew.sh/linuxbrew/
[00:55] <auk> rasusto: of course, your machine root needs to already have the dependencies... including ruby
[00:56] <rasusto> auk: just gave it a shot, no ruby unfortunately. Trying the git install now...
[00:57] <petypeyt> rasusto: yep
[00:57] <OerHeks> but you don't have root ..
[00:57] <petypeyt> auk: done
[00:58] <auk> petypeyt: huh?
[01:01] <petypeyt> auk: you did fix it
[01:01] <radiel892> trying to get nvidia working right, lightdm login bouncing back to login screen so i uninstalled lightdm and running startx manually, here is the output i get http://termbin.com/wal0
[01:01] <radiel892> nvidia driver loads from single user mode but not normal boot, /dev/dri/card0 exists but not card1 mentioned in the error
[01:02] <petypeyt> radiel892: nvidia
[01:04] <petypeyt> So auk is it done
[01:04] <OerHeks> radiel892, uninstalled lightdm, then what dm do you use ?
[01:04] <OerHeks> just curious
[01:04] <radiel892> OerHeks, none i think, just trying to get more info out of X stderr, will reinstall the dm after X is working
[01:04] <rasusto> auk: still depends on ruby
[01:06] <auk> rasusto: yeah, it's written in ruby i think
[01:06] <petypeyt> auk: no it's is
[01:06] <auk> rasusto: you could maybe try just downloading a screen binary
[01:06] <rasusto> I would be very surprised if there wasn't a way to download the dependency tarball and compile against that
[01:07] <auk> maybe
[01:07] <somsip> rasusto: prepare to be surprised. There is a reason why your sysadmin does not want you to have root
[01:07] <rasusto> I don't know where to extract it, or if the configure script would be able to find it unless I change it myself
[01:08] <somsip> rasusto: you would normall use configure --prefix=~/some/install/path
[01:10] <rasusto> somsip: does that add /some/install/path to the list of places the configure script looks? or does that only look in that directory then?
[01:11] <somsip> rasusto: it installs the compiled software to that path. But I think this could be futile for what you need - dependency hell could not be far away. Speak to your sysadmin and ask for screen to be installed
[01:30] <rasusto> somsip, auk my new approach is to compile a static executable and copy it to the other machine
[01:31] <somsip> rasusto: could just download the deb and extract it...
[01:31] <auk> and hope it runs :)
[01:32] <guest88481> to configure a firewall in ubuntu what is the difference between configuring iptables or ufw?
[01:32] <rasusto> somsip: debs are compiled but still linked against shared libraries. Those libraries are missing on the target system. Hence, the static executable
[01:32] <somsip> rasusto: fair enough
[01:32] <somsip> guest88481: ufw is an easyier front end to iptables
[01:33] <guest88481> is iptables more powerful?
[01:33] <jellow> can't you just use nohup ?
[01:33] <bazhang> gufw somsip
[01:33] <bazhang> !info gufw
[01:33] <guest88481> is iptables more powerful than ufw?
[01:33] <somsip> bazhang: wasn't really the question, but might help the OP
[01:34] <bazhang> somsip, front end generally means the gui
[01:35] <bazhang> guest88481, try and see
[01:35] <bazhang> guest88481, we cannot know what you find easy or difficult
[01:35] <guest88481> i mean does iptables have more configuration options than ufw?
[01:36] <bazhang> guest88481, what have you tried so far
[01:36] <guest88481> none
[01:36] <bazhang> guest88481, so try , decide
[01:36] <guest88481> i dont know which to use so im getting an idea of which i could use
[01:36] <guest88481> i would rather learn the more powerful option even if its hard
[01:36] <bazhang> guest88481, use gufw then
[01:37] <bazhang> guest88481, we cannot choose for you
[01:38] <somsip> bazhang: he only asked what the difference was "to configure a firewall in ubuntu what is the difference between configuring iptables or ufw?" I know you're an op so I'll leave it to you, but this does not read as friendly or helpful
[01:40] <CryptoSiD> * * 23 * * /bin/reboot
[01:40] <guest88481> i just wanted to know difference but its cool
[01:40] <CryptoSiD> will this crontab reboot every 23 of each month?
[01:40] <somsip> guest88481: AIUI, ufw provides a way to create iptable entries in a way that is simpler than issuing iptable commands directly. But I've only ever used ufw so you may need to research more on examples
[01:40] <bxx> SUCCESS: /realdir /mnt none bind
[01:41] <bxx> FAILURE: /symbolic-link-to-realdir /mnt none bind
[01:41] <guest88481> thanks all
[01:41] <bxx> how to make fstab accept symbolic link to a real dir
[01:41] <bazhang> welcome
[01:49] <guest88481> to encrypt a hdd that is not encrypted with ubuntu+windows do i need to wipe the hard drive first before starting encryption?
[01:50] <guest88481> assuming i use dm crypt + luks?
[01:50] <nrdb> I have setup LTSP, but I can't seem to get the terminals printer to work... I set "PRINTER_0_DEVICE = /dev/usb/lp0" ... the terminal has a /dev/usb/lp0 ... the terminal does not have the ipp port open ... the server can't find the terminals printer .... can anyone help?
[01:52] <nrdb> guest88481, you don't need to wipe the HDD but you will need a dedicated partition for the encrypted setup.
[01:55] <guest88481> i mean if i want to encrypt the current partition already there
[01:55] <guest88481> the partition with ubuntu
[01:57] <nrdb> guest88481, I don't think you can encrypt the data in-place .
[01:58] <guest88481> so a new partition is requred and specific setup(eg filesystem type) is required, correcT?
[01:58] <nrdb> guest88481, you might be able to backup -- encrypt -- restore
[01:58] <guest88481> alright, thanks all
[02:05] <buu> Hey, anyone have any info why a netgear gigE switch would only be advertising 100mbit to my ubuntu box?
[02:07] <compdoc> buu, could be the cable
[02:07] <buu> oh
[02:07] <buu> really?
[02:07] <compdoc> needs all 8 wires, and they have to be right
[02:07] <buu> Good idea.
[02:10] <gilmar> algum brasileiro on??
[02:10] <somsip> !pr | gilmar
[02:10] <somsip> !br
[02:11] <gilmar> tanks
[02:22] <t00bs0x_> hey can someone help me understand certificate authorities?
[02:23] <t00bs0x_> I'm having a pretty serious connection problem
[02:23] <somsip> t00bs0x_: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Certificate_authority
[02:23] <t00bs0x_> I noticed that all my certificate authorities are self signed certs
[02:23] <t00bs0x_> every one is issued by itself
[02:23] <t00bs0x_> so I'm a little fckjbg choked
[02:24] <somsip> !find certificates
[02:24] <t00bs0x_> they are actually flashed to my phone ram
[02:24] <somsip> t00bs0x_: maybe worth reinstalling ca-certificates with a dry-run?
[02:24] <t00bs0x_> that's intense right?
[02:24] <somsip> t00bs0x_: err...phone?
[02:24] <t00bs0x_> yeah but my phone says "hardware-backex
[02:24] <t00bs0x_> backed"
[02:24] <somsip> t00bs0x_: this is ubuntu support. That sounds like a phone question...?
[02:25] <t00bs0x_> so I assumed that means the certs are on some sorrt of smart card?
[02:25] <t00bs0x_> I. am using Ubuntu touch
[02:25] <somsip> !touch | t00bs0x_ (that explains it then)
[02:25] <t00bs0x_> ah, ok
[02:26] <t00bs0x_> well thanks but if it makes any difference all my devices have these fake certs
[02:26] <somsip> t00bs0x_: devices means what?
[02:26] <t00bs0x_> some have long serial nrs
[02:26] <t00bs0x_> should I dump them sumwhere out of spite?
[02:26] <t00bs0x_> the.certs I mean
[02:27] <t00bs0x_> laptop, other phibez
[02:27] <t00bs0x_> phones
[02:27] <somsip> t00bs0x_: this is nothing to do with ubuntu. Take it elsewhere
[02:27] <t00bs0x_> alright
[02:28] <t00bs0x_> I joined because android phones are on the Linux kernel and Ubuntu always has the easiest understandable advice on google
[02:28] <t00bs0x_> I'll head to #ubuntu-touch
[02:31] <oaulakh> how to fix ubuntu drive auto mount problem, like my ubutnu first was in usb drive and when i use its backup to restore it on my laptop its not opening my any drive without nautilus help :(
[02:32] <radiel892> how do i edit the kernel boot line permanently? i tried updating GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="" inside /etc/default/grub and running update-grub but it doesn't update it in grub
[02:32] <oaulakh> likei just want to make my ubuntu beahve same when i boot from pendrive, by the everything going perfect like my grub boot and programs just problem while opening my drives :(
[02:44] <DavidW_617> I'm hoping someone can help me fix my boot. I have chrooted into the environment I want to boot into but update-grub is creating this entry: menuentry 'Ubuntu' --class ubuntu --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os $menuentry_id_option 'gnulinux-simple-'
[02:44] <DavidW_617> {
[02:44] <DavidW_617>         recordfail
[02:44] <DavidW_617>         load_video
[02:44] <DavidW_617>         gfxmode $linux_gfx_mode
[02:44] <DavidW_617>         insmod gzio
[02:44] <somsip> !paste | DavidW_617
[02:44] <oaulakh> how to fix ubuntu drive auto mount problem, like my ubutnu first was in usb drive and when i use its backup to restore it on my laptop its not opening my any drive without nautilus help :(
[02:44] <oaulakh> likei just want to make my ubuntu beahve same when i boot from pendrive, by the everything going perfect like my grub boot and programs just problem while opening my drives :(
[02:45] <DavidW_617> I'm hoping someone can help me fix my boot. I have chrooted into the environment I want to boot into but update-grub is creating this entry: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12189882/
[02:46] <DavidW_617> boot-repair isn't recognizing the ubuntu install that I'm trying to fix
[02:46] <radiel892> i am following guide for permanently adding a kernel boot parameter at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/KernelBootParameters but its not updating the boot line
[02:47] <DavidW_617> My boot-repair summary is here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12189887/
[02:50] <DavidW_617> /dev/sda5 is my separate boot partition, /dev/sda7 and /dev/sdd1 are my btrfs volume for root and home
[03:02] <oaulakh> how to fix ubuntu drive auto mount problem, like my ubutnu first was in usb drive and when i use its backup to restore it on my laptop its not opening my any drive without nautilus help :(
[03:10] <nrdb> with the 'mate' desktop how do you create a new user?
[03:11] <Samdjo> Hi, I have a security question & hope I am at the right place. I just found out my known_hosts file has about 16 entries, of which I am sure I have never manually added, what could have added these entries? I don't want anybody to be able to just ssh into my computer, and am wondering whether it would indicate my box has been compromised.
[03:11] <radiel892> running 14.04 does anyone know a workaround to the bug where changes made in /etc/default/grub are ignored, i think this is it https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1273764
[03:12] <t00bs0x> all the distros of Linux I've dled have SSH opening a port o. your computer
[03:12] <jasonj8> How can I check the disk usage of the partition I have ubuntu installed on? I've somehow nearly filled up my hard drive, but baobab only lets me scan / (which seems to include things mounted in /media in its totals), /home, or each thing in /media individually.
[03:13] <apt-linux-2> hi i heard there was a ubuntu office in Montreal
[03:13] <apt-linux-2> i'd like to get a cell phone from Them
[03:14] <radiel892> jasonj8, try the command "df -Th"
[03:14] <Bashing-om> jasonj8: Terminal commands ' df -h ; df -i ' .
[03:14] <apt-linux-2> i have a kernel dkms ppa problem
[03:16] <Samdjo> t00bs0x, thanks for answering. I just realized the lack of sleep somehow made me confuse known_hosts with authorized_keys file.... :/
[03:17] <apt-linux-2> apprently hdjmod ppa really broke x11
[03:30]  * kiki_999 slaps Drone` around a bit with a large fishbot
[03:47] <ElevyNJ> Hello. I need help with a ppp server. I used a guide but it's not setting a default gateway for systems connecting to it.
[03:48] <cfhowlett> !server | ElevyNJ
[03:49] <ElevyNJ> cfhowlett, how does that address my problem of my ubuntu server not giving a default gateway for ppp?
[03:49] <LambdaComplex> ElevyNJ: He was telling you to ask somewhere else
[03:49] <cfhowlett> ElevyNJ, server question >>> server channel >>> server experts
[03:50] <ElevyNJ> ahh got it thnks
[03:52] <radiel892> is there another way to apply boot parameters besides /etc/default/grub, that way doesn't work for me
[03:53] <ElevyNJ> I was asking here because I am using the desktop version but I asked there
[03:54] <n0m> hey guys, how do i change the authentication failure message for lightdm?
[03:55] <zykotick9> radiel892: do you have more then one linux installed on your system?  i doubt /etc/default/grub is broken in ubuntu
[03:55] <Bashing-om> radiel892: 'sudo update-grub '?? note sudo after edit is made ?
[03:56] <zykotick9> radiel892: also, have you tried changing the GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT= line?
[03:56] <radiel892> just the one linux is installed, yes i updated the GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT line and ran update-grub but it doesn't work
[03:57] <zykotick9> radiel892: what change are you adding, what are you expecting it to do?
[03:57] <radiel892> i am hoping it to add in nomodeset into the boot line, because my graphics card doesn't startx without it
[03:58] <radiel892> it works when i go into grub and 'e' edit the line myself, but i can't make the change permanent
[03:58] <zykotick9> radiel892: are you editing /etc/default/grub with sudo as well?
[03:58] <radiel892> in single user mode, as root #
[03:59] <cfhowlett> radiel892, as root?  wrong ...
[03:59] <cfhowlett> sudo
[04:00] <disappearedng> What does this look like to you guys? 54686f75676874732c2073746f7269657320616e642069646561732e
[04:00] <cfhowlett> radiel892, in single user, you can only make temporary/next boot edits, iirc. to make permanent changes, you have to boot into your admin account then sudo the edits
[04:00] <cfhowlett> disappearedng, looks like a waste of time. ask your UBUNTU question in this channel.
[04:01] <agent_white> Evenin'
[04:02] <radiel892> ok, i hav been making system changes with single user mode with no problem, i just needed to run "mount -o remount,rw /"
[04:02] <ndick> s
[04:02] <ndick> s
[04:02] <Bashing-om> radiel892: If this is 15.04, I think I read that in 'single user' mode the file system is mounted read only. No changes will stick until the file system is re-mounted .
[04:03] <radiel892> yes which is why i use "mount -o remount,rw /" , the changes like updating graphics drivers and adding a user and managing packages did stick
[04:03] <cfhowlett> radiel892, I stand corrected then ...
[04:03] <radiel892> its 14.04 :)
[04:04] <ndick> ada orang indonesia
[04:04] <cfhowlett> !indonesia | ndick
[04:06] <ndick> dekstop saya terhapus dan ingin kembali ke dekstop awal
[04:08] <purr_> hi everyone! I am having a bit of a problem that I think should have quick fix but my web searching has not provided a solution. I need to download the kernel source
[04:09] <purr_> I am installing a nvidia driver and it fails becuase it is unable to locate the kernal source
[04:10] <cfhowlett> purr_, run the install command and paste:   sudo apt-get install foo | nc termbin.com 9999
[04:10] <cfhowlett> report the url
[04:11] <purr_> unable to locate package foo
[04:11] <Bashing-om> purr_: (??) . Generally the headers for the kernel are required to build the modulle . The linux-hearders is downloadable from the repo .
[04:12] <cfhowlett> purr_, foo is a placeholder for a package name.  In other words, replace it with your actual packagename
[04:14] <purr_> I am doing this right now: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaManual
[04:14] <purr_> Oh okay, sorry about not understanding that. I am not sure what the package name is though because it is packed in the cuda 7 run file
[04:15] <purr_> my computer was missing linux-source thought, so that may have been it.
[04:16] <purr_> I know it is nvidia 446
[04:17] <purr_> Bashing-om, I have the linux-headers
[04:19] <purr_> Sorry 346.46*
[04:20] <purr_> nope that still did not work
[04:21] <purr_> How would I download the kernel source?
[04:23] <Bashing-om> purr_: Show us in a pastebin what you are doing. If you did not have the kernel installed you would not even boot the system . If we can see what you are doing, and the error you are getting we can then help .
[04:24] <purr_> okay, I hit ctrl alt f2 to go to terminal
[04:25] <LinuxGuy91> HELLO LINUX FRIENDS
[04:25] <purr_> I got rid of everything nvidia by sudo apt-get --purge remove nvidia-*
[04:25] <LinuxGuy91> have any of you got girlfriends yet?
[04:25] <LinuxGuy91> i got one last night :D :D :D
[04:25] <Bashing-om> !paste | purr_
[04:25] <LinuxGuy91> had to pay though.
[04:25] <cfhowlett> LinuxGuy91, wrong channel and off-topic.  play elsewhere
[04:25] <purr_> stoped lightdm by sudo service lightdm stop
[04:25] <LinuxGuy91> ok cfhowlett, how re you ?
[04:25] <LinuxGuy91> how can i configure my xorg server for non standard resolutions
[04:25] <cfhowlett> LinuxGuy91, what is your ubuntu support question?
[04:26] <purr_> sorry I will do that
[04:26] <LinuxGuy91> cfhowlett xorg server problems
[04:26] <LinuxGuy91> and i want gnome back
[04:27] <Bashing-om> purr_: Nvidia graphics drivers are available in the software repository. Are you doing a graphics install the hard way ?
[04:28] <purr_> I am installing the graphics drives that come packaged with cuda 7 to ensure compatibility
[04:29] <purr_> I do have the recently added ppa that has been put out, but it is not working to install cuda
[04:30] <Bashing-om> purr_: In the repo ! 'apt-cache search cuda >> libcuda1-346-updates - NVIDIA CUDA runtime library ' .
[04:33] <Bashing-om> purr_: Food for thought, if ya stay within the repo then you do not have to yourself manage the driver breakage and updates. The package manager will do all that for you .
[04:34] <purr_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12190361/
[04:34] <purr_> that is that I did so far
[04:35] <Bashing-om> purr_: Look'n at your http://paste.ubuntu.com/12190361/ .
[04:35] <purr_> Bashing-on, I completely agree! I have had success installing cuda via repos on two other computers. This one says that it can not be found so I am doing it manually.
[04:38] <Bashing-om> purr_: See if the kernel headers are present ' ls -al /usr/src/ ' for the kernel you are booting ' uname -r ' .
[04:40] <purr_> yes, they are there: 3.13.0-62-generic is in the /usr/src folder and the result of uname -r
[04:43] <Bashing-om> purr_: Maybe I am in left field, but direct the cuda installer to that location for the headers ??
[04:44] <purr_> yeah, I think i will extract the run file and install the driver separately with the path flag
[04:58] <ponyofdeath> hi, trying to figure out why after a dist-upgrade to 14.04 for the latest updates it will now not boot my multipath server
[05:01] <purr_> well i am giving up for the night, thank you for your help!
[05:06] <cfhowlett> ponyofdeath, #ubuntu-server might know
[05:06] <w4rb0y> hey
[05:07] <ponyofdeath> cfhowlett: thanks
[05:08] <w4rb0y> .
[05:27] <coelebs> i follow the guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PowerManagement/ReducedPower but i don't get power management to work
[05:27] <coelebs> my guess is that enlightenments own settings override those i made
[05:29] <radiel892> my grub parameters not applying might be due to this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1273764 is there a possible workaround to using /etc/default/grub, does anyone know how to inject the boot params by using script files in /etc/grub.d
[05:31] <GAM002> ubuntu channel for online irc on firefox please and fast
[05:32] <somsip> GAM002: you're in the ubuntu channel
[05:33] <GAM002> somsip: its for a friend
[05:33] <somsip> GAM002: #ubuntu on freenode then
[05:33] <GAM002> Hello
[05:34] <GAM002> are you here yet?
[05:36] <GAM002> helloooooo
[05:37] <GAM002> gd
[05:42] <Niggors> hi
[05:59] <GAM002> somsip: tnx
[06:08] <gloria> Damn it! I love the way edx.org shows subtitles! --> http://uploadkon.ir/fl/dd/75423 (edx player); Is there any desktop video player with this approach?
[06:13] <lotuspsychje> gloria: havent found something like that yet
[06:16] <gloria> lotuspsychje: Ah, anyway it's the best way to watch a training video. it allows you to click on a specific subtitle line to repeat it. You can go to a specific part of video very fast. it's interactive!
[06:17] <lotuspsychje> gloria: maybe someone knows something like that online, try in #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:18] <lotuspsychje> gloria: or maybe you should search for subtitle editors somehow
[06:19] <lotuspsychje> gloria: didnt test myself: http://lintut.com/best-subtitle-editors-for-linux/ but seems like it can flood the subs also when you watch video
[06:22] <GAM002> !extensions
[06:22] <GAM002> !addons
[06:22] <gloria> lotuspsychje: This editors, not player indeed. They have poor functionality to handle the videos!
[06:22] <GAM002> whre can  iget addons for ubuntu?
[06:22] <lotuspsychje> !msgthebot | GAM002
[06:22] <GAM002> any way to get notification on ubuntu?
[06:23] <lotuspsychje> GAM002: notification of what?
[06:23] <GAM002> ok messages ...etc
[06:23] <GAM002> like on android
[06:23] <lotuspsychje> GAM002: messages from where
[06:24] <lotuspsychje> GAM002: system? email?
[06:24] <GAM002> from chat irc,and softwares
[06:24] <GAM002> ya
[06:24] <GAM002> email
[06:24] <GAM002> irc
[06:24] <lotuspsychje> GAM002: gm-notify shows new emails + sound
[06:24] <lotuspsychje> GAM002: you can set hexchat to notify on keywords or nicknames
[06:25] <GAM002> do i need to install gm-notify?
[06:25] <lotuspsychje> GAM002: and there are system messages indicators for ubuntu also
[06:25] <lotuspsychje> !info gm-notify | GAM002 yes
[06:25] <lunix4> Hello everyone
[06:26] <lotuspsychje> GAM002: apt-cache search indicator in your terminal
[06:26] <lunix4> I have a question, How to use notify-send in udev rules?
[06:26] <GAM002> lotuspsychje: ok thanks
[06:26] <lunix4> export DISPLAY variable does not solve the problem
[06:27] <lotuspsychje> lunix4: there is a small #udev channel, perhaps this can help?
[06:27] <lunix4> thanks
[06:28] <lotuspsychje> lunix4: or repeat your issue in here @ more crowdy timezones
[06:28] <wxc> ss
[06:28] <wxc> zz
[06:28] <lotuspsychje> !test | wxc
[06:29] <wxc> sorry
[06:29] <GAM002> are there any site to get extension and addons for ubuntu?
[06:30] <lotuspsychje> GAM002: addons for what exactly? firefox?
[06:30] <coelebs> how do i dim the backlight on 15.04 using TLP when entering battery-powered mode?
[06:31] <GAM002> lotuspsychje: no for ubuntu
[06:31] <coelebs> is there a script that is ran or dir of which scripts are ran when i unplug ac power?
[06:31] <lotuspsychje> GAM002: define addons
[06:31] <GAM002> lotuspsychje: like the application on the old versions of ubnunu
[06:31] <lotuspsychje> coelebs: you can try find values in dconf-editor energy settings perhaps
[06:31] <GAM002> ubuntu
[06:32] <lotuspsychje> GAM002: you need to be specific mate, what kind of applications?
[06:32] <GAM002> !themes
[06:32] <cfhowlett> !details | GAM002, for best results, give DETAILS.  "like android" or "old ubuntu" tells us nothing
[06:32] <GAM002> cfhowlett: k
[06:32] <GAM002> cfhowlett: sorry i dont know how to describe it
[06:33] <lotuspsychje> GAM002: start from the beginning, what do you need?
[06:33] <GAM002> lotuspsychje: extra features like notification..etc for softwares on ubuntu
[06:34] <whologin> good evening
[06:34] <lotuspsychje> GAM002: notifications of what?
[06:34] <lotuspsychje> GAM002: you want to know whats new in software on ubuntu?
[06:35] <whologin> is there a reason why when i type (lspci -vnn | grep) nothing happens?
[06:36] <GAM002> lotuspsychje: ya
[06:36] <auronandace> whologin: you haven't specified what to grep for
[06:36] <GAM002> lotuspsychje: somethig like that
[06:36] <whologin> ?
[06:36] <cfhowlett> whologin, yes.  you didn't specify anything after grep
[06:36] <whologin> i dont know what you mean
[06:36] <cfhowlett> whologin, lspci -vnn | grep vga
[06:36] <lotuspsychje> GAM002: then you need an rss news feed of latest software/linux try softpedia linux
[06:36] <whologin> im trying to detect my wifi card
[06:37] <GAM002> lotuspsychje: ok
[06:37] <lotuspsychje> GAM002: then you can add the news feed rrs to ubuntu as notification
[06:37] <cfhowlett> whologin, lspci -vnn
[06:37] <lotuspsychje> GAM002: there are few good rss indicator out there
[06:39] <whologin> ya i dont see my nic in  there
[06:39] <whologin> windows says it a broadcom
[06:39] <lotuspsychje> GAM002: i like this1 myself: https://code.google.com/p/feedindicator/
[06:40] <whologin> i checked lsusb and didnt see any broadcom refferences
[06:40] <GAM002> lotuspsychje: thanks
[06:40] <lotuspsychje> whologin: try sudo lshw -C network
[06:40] <whologin> ok
[06:41] <whologin> no output
[06:42] <whologin> it did some things and then command prompt
[06:42] <whologin> i saw pci and scsi
[06:42] <GAM002> i found it https://extensions.gnome.org/
[06:42] <cfhowlett> whologin, lspci -vnn | nc termbin.com 9999
[06:42] <whologin> k
[06:43] <lotuspsychje> GAM002: thats for gnome, not for unity
[06:43] <GAM002> lotuspsychje: it wont work on ubuntu?
[06:43] <lotuspsychje> GAM002: wich ubuntu version do you have?
[06:43] <baizon> GAM002: no
[06:43] <GAM002> 14.04
[06:44] <lotuspsychje> GAM002: ubuntu desktop? no other flavor?
[06:44] <whologin> nc: getaddrinfo: Name or service not known
[06:44] <GAM002> lotuspsychje: ubuntu 14.04 LTs 64 bit
[06:44] <lotuspsychje> !unity | GAM002
[06:44] <GAM002> lotuspsychje: so will it work?
[06:44] <lotuspsychje> GAM002: then you need unity plugins/indicators/software
[06:44] <GAM002> lotuspsychje: where to get them?
[06:45] <lotuspsychje> GAM002: baizon already answered you
[06:45] <whologin> my laptop has no int connection
[06:45] <baizon> GAM002: this is an example http://askubuntu.com/questions/30334/what-application-indicators-are-available
[06:45] <whologin> yet
[06:45] <cfhowlett> GAM002, sounds like you really want the gnome ubuntu.  suggest you install it instead of unity uubntu
[06:45] <baizon> GAM002: https://ubuntugnome.org/
[06:45] <whologin> i have the broadcom  43341 tar.g2z on a flash drive
[06:46] <lotuspsychje> whologin: ask your question in one line please, not several lines
[06:46] <GAM002> cfhowlett: well i like something in the unity and some other features on gnobe ubuntu :)
[06:46] <GAM002> baizon: ok thanks
[06:47] <whologin> k ill shut up
[06:47] <GAM002> lotuspsychje: ok
[06:47] <GAM002> cfhowlett: thanks
[06:47] <cfhowlett> whologin, happy2help!
[06:47] <lotuspsychje> whologin: start from the beginning: wich ubntu version did you install, what happened..
[06:48] <whologin> i installed  14.04
[06:48] <whologin> no
[06:48] <whologin> its running live
[06:48] <whologin> when i install it it wont boot
[06:48] <whologin> uefi laptop with an atom
[06:48] <lotuspsychje> whologin: did you disable fastboot + secureboot?
[06:49] <whologin> yes
[06:49] <lotuspsychje> whologin: then you should be able to install ubuntu
[06:49] <lotuspsychje> !uefi | whologin doublecheck settings here
[06:49] <whologin> i can install it but after th reboot it dosnt start
[06:50] <lotuspsychje> whologin: you see a blinking _ cursor at left corner?
[06:50] <tomas_> hi
[06:50] <whologin> no its just jumps straight to bios screen
[06:51] <lotuspsychje> whologin: doublecheck all uefi settings, must be something blocking yet
[06:54] <lotuspsychje> whologin: also keep in mind if you need the uefi settings right, before you install ubuntu otherwise you need re-install
[06:55] <GAM002> Is there any way to know if a PPA is trusted?
[06:55] <lotuspsychje> !ppa | GAM002
[06:56] <GAM002> lotuspsychje: is there any way to get a list of trusted ppa?
[06:56] <lotuspsychje> !sources | GAM002
[06:57] <auronandace> GAM002: no, none are "trusted", that is the whole point of a PPA
[06:57] <cfhowlett> GAM002, >>> WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk.  <<<
[06:57] <cfhowlett> GAM002, if it was "trusted" it would be in the repos.  if not in the repos, it's NOT a trusted source.
[06:57] <GAM002> ok Thanks
[06:58] <GAM002> was trying to install a theme and they asked me to install their ppa
[06:58] <cfhowlett> GAM002, your machine.  your choice.  choose wisely.
[06:59] <GAM002> cfhowlett: that sounds just too carefull
[06:59] <GAM002> cfhowlett: thanks though
[06:59] <lotuspsychje> GAM002: there are tons of eyecandy for ubuntu, that are free to install
[07:00] <lotuspsychje> GAM002: compiz,unti pkugins,conky,free themes whatever you want
[07:00] <lotuspsychje> unity
[07:00] <GAM002> lotuspsychje: are they safe?
[07:00] <GAM002> and how to install?
[07:00] <lotuspsychje> !eyecandy | GAM002
[07:00] <GAM002> i installed unity tweak yesterday but no idea how to install them
[07:01] <lotuspsychje> GAM002: there are safe themes out there yes, take a look at deviantart.com and learn how users flavor up their desktops on ubuntu
[07:01] <baizon> can someone point me in the right direction... every 3-5 boot my system stops at boottime (ubuntu 15.04, systemd)??
[07:02] <GAM002> lotuspsychje: ok thanks
[07:02] <GAM002> lotuspsychje: again
[07:03] <lotuspsychje> baizon: you can press F1 to see errors perhaps?
[07:03] <lotuspsychje> baizon: did you experience same issue on 14.04?
[07:03] <baizon> lotuspsychje: no
[07:04] <baizon> lotuspsychje: i think its a systemd problem
[07:04] <lotuspsychje> baizon: could be, let us know if you find out errors booting
[07:04] <lotuspsychje> baizon: check syslog/dmesg logs perhaps aswell?
[07:04] <baizon> lotuspsychje: so when i get black screen, press F!?
[07:04] <baizon> F1?
[07:05] <lotuspsychje> !nomodeset | baizon for black screen maybe
[07:05] <baizon> lotuspsychje: no no, but i dont get it every boot
[07:05] <lotuspsychje> baizon: try your logs then
[07:05] <baizon> lotuspsychje: ok, will do
[07:06] <baizon> lotuspsychje: but will it be logged? i have to hard-reset my system
[07:06] <lotuspsychje> baizon: everything that goes wrong should be logged
[07:06] <baizon> ok
[07:06] <lotuspsychje> baizon: browse your /var/log :p
[07:07] <baizon> hmm, but nobody did experience that problem, i have it on both my systems (Workstation & Laptop).
[07:08] <lotuspsychje> baizon: not sure mate, investigate deeper until we find errors
[07:08] <baizon> ok, thanks lotuspsychje
[07:08] <lotuspsychje> baizon: also keep in mind that LTS performs more stable
[07:09] <GAM002> can anyone tell me how can i install this theme without installing their respo
[07:09] <GAM002> http://ubuntu-art.org/content/show.php/Ambiance+%26+Radiance+Flat+Colors?content=168090
[07:10] <cfhowlett> GAM002, "unsupported" means ... we don't support it.  install instructions are on the page.  if you need more, contact the package maintainers.
[07:10] <GAM002> cfhowlett: ok
[07:11] <lotuspsychje> GAM002: it also shows adding a ppa
[07:11] <GAM002> lotuspsychje: i am trying to install it without adding ppa
[07:11] <lotuspsychje> GAM002: you cant install things without a ppa, that needs a ppa
[07:11] <lotuspsychje> GAM002: meaning not supported here
[07:13] <GAM002> lotuspsychje: ok
[07:13] <GAM002> sorry for all this noobish qustions cause i am a newbie :)
[07:14] <GAM002> anybody here use that theme?
[07:14] <GAM002> or any theme from that ppa?
[07:24] <ElTimo> Hey, I'm getting"Can't open /dev/sr0: no medium found" over and over again when I try to boot off a live usb. IOMMU is on and I've tried every combination of workarounds I could find in the bios. Any ideas?
[07:27] <EriC^^> ElTimo: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/500822
[07:32] <ElTimo> EriC^^: Nothing.
[07:43] <EriC^^> ElTimo: did you try disabling the floppy device in the bios?
[07:52] <tnkhanh> hello
[07:53] <tnkhanh> i just got vivid
[07:53] <backbox> hello world
[07:53] <tnkhanh> anyone likes its background color more than trusty?
[07:53] <tnkhanh> the new purple seems amazing
[07:54] <cfhowlett> tnkhanh, this is the support channel.  chitchat in #ubuntu-offtopic please.  thanks.
[07:54] <tnkhanh> cfhowlett: oh sorry, i'm moving there
[07:57] <ElTimo> EriC^^: I couldn't find one to do it. I finally said screw it and went with Debian Testing. Pretty much the same thing, anyway.
[08:01] <EriC^^> ElTimo: check the 18th and 19th comments for solutions
[08:01] <ElTimo> I tried both of those, too.
[08:01] <ElTimo> I think it's something stupid with the mobo.
[08:01] <ElTimo> The thing has been a huge PITA ever since we got it.
[08:03] <ubkern> hello, I'm trying to upgrade some packages on ubuntu, but I'm always getting the following error message: You might want to run 'apt-get -f install' to correct these. The following packages have unmet dependencies. linux-headers-generic : Depends: linux-headers-3.13.0-62-generic but it is not installed
[08:04] <ubkern> running sudo apt-get -f install tells me: No apport report written because the error message indicates a disk full error
[08:04] <baizon> ubkern: try sudo apt-get autoclean
[08:04] <ubkern> df -h shows 4GB free space (I doubt that the kernel is 4GB?!)
[08:05] <ubkern> baizon: thx, same problem
[08:07] <EriC^^> ubkern: /boot might be full
[08:07] <ubkern> EriC^^: I dont have a /boot partition
[08:07] <ubkern> I just have / which has 70% used (4GB free)
[08:07] <EriC^^> ubkern: type df -h | nc termbin.com 9999
[08:08] <ubkern> EriC^^: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=L0Lwc0fq
[08:09] <collins> hi all
[08:09] <collins> !list
[08:09] <EriC^^> ubkern: try sudo apt-get install linux-headers-3.13.0-62-generic
[08:09] <ubkern> EriC^^: error msg: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=N4qm5684
[08:10] <ubkern> I can't install anything because apt-get says the disk is full (which is not true)
[08:10] <cfhowlett> ubkern, have you been messing around in root?
[08:11] <ubkern> cfhowlett: nope
[08:11] <bazhang> how many extra kernels do you have there ubkern
[08:11] <ubkern> bazhang: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=pamPtDeV
[08:12]  * ObrienDave deleted 600M of old kernels O.o
[08:12] <circ-user-KcVYu> hello
[08:13] <adsc> yeah, it's a bit silly that ubuntu never deletes old kernels
[08:13] <EriC^^> adsc: it does
[08:13] <baizon> ubkern: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/RemoveOldKernels
[08:13] <EriC^^> (apt-get autoremove)
[08:13] <ubkern> I always run autoremove
[08:13] <circ-user-KcVYu> its posible to limit outgoing requests to ip in IPTABLES ?
[08:13] <ObrienDave> so do i
[08:13] <ubkern> my update command usually looks like this: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get autoremove
[08:14] <zaggynl> same, made an alias for it
[08:14] <ObrienDave> same here
[08:14] <bazhang> ubkern, did you remove the extras leaning at least one spare
[08:14] <bazhang> and leaving
[08:14] <ObrienDave> except i use dist-upgrade
[08:14] <EriC^^> ubkern: can you create files? touch ~/something ?
[08:14] <ubkern> EriC^^: sure
[08:15] <adsc> EriC^^: my father doesn't use the command line...is there an option in the GUI updater to run auto-remove?
[08:15] <ubkern> adsc: same issue with my grand ma's ubuntu PC :P
[08:18] <EriC^^> adsc: i dont think so
[08:18] <linuxuz3r> i get error when i boot to ubuntu
[08:18] <linuxuz3r> it says smp_boot cpu 1 failed
[08:18] <linuxuz3r> can anyone help
[08:18] <trixo> anybudy can help with IPTABLES ?
[08:19] <cfhowlett> !iptabes | trixo
[08:19] <cfhowlett> !iptables | trixo
[08:19] <bazhang> trixo, #netfilter
[08:20] <trixo> bazhang thanx
[08:20] <bazhang> welcome
[08:20] <bazhang> what version of ubuntu linuxuz3r
[08:20] <EriC^^> ubkern: type sudo apt-get purge linux-image-3.5.0-{23..54}-generic
[08:20] <linuxuz3r> 14.04
[08:20] <kasper> Goodmorning...can someone assist me with getting my wireless card working on a HP elitebook 2540p
[08:20] <bazhang> where do you see that error message linuxuz3r
[08:21] <linuxuz3r> bootstrap
[08:21] <linuxuz3r> on boot
[08:21] <bazhang> !wifi | kasper have a read first
[08:21] <linuxuz3r> bazhang: are you a ubuntu user
[08:21] <linuxuz3r> ok nvm
[08:21] <linuxuz3r> time to move on
[08:21] <kasper> thanks...but i've done about 24 hours of research :)
[08:21] <bazhang> linuxuz3r, yes ofc
[08:21] <bazhang> what an odd question
[08:22] <kasper> in desperate need of some live support
[08:22] <linuxuz3r> i dont want to switch distro i like ubuntu
[08:22] <bazhang> kasper, we need the actual chipset
[08:22] <kasper> cool hold on
[08:22] <kasper> Intel® Centrino® Advanced-N 6200
[08:22] <kasper> does that help?
[08:22] <bazhang> yep
[08:23] <kasper> got as far as downloading something...but complete noob so i don want to install firmware without knowing what i am doing
[08:23] <bazhang> does ifconfig see it all kasper
[08:23] <kasper> jep
[08:23] <kasper> there was some command i did in terminal...found it on help site
[08:23] <kasper> it recognised the card
[08:23] <bazhang> kasper, what scanning for wireless hot spots
[08:23] <kasper> but in GUI i cant switch wireless on at all
[08:24] <kasper> the button is orange and when i press it it goes to airplane mode
[08:24] <bazhang> kasper, is there some sort of hard switch to flip it on and off
[08:24] <kasper> jep...but when i press it it ubuntu goes on airplane mode
[08:25] <bazhang> kasper, try to toggle that to off then on once the system has started, my notebook has a similar intel wifi chipset
[08:26] <kasper> off during boot?
[08:26] <adsc> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?p=5375732#post5375732 here is an arch thread about your wifi card...it suggests to use rfkill
[08:26] <kasper> and then on again when it's completely booted?
[08:26] <adsc> it also mentions you need newer kernels for the card to be well supported
[08:27] <kasper> i am not farmilliar with terminal at all...i just installed ubuntu to give a 2nd hand laptop a second life :P
[08:27] <k1l> kasper: what does "rfkill list" give you? please put all the output into a pastebin and show the link here
[08:29] <kasper> http://pastebin.com/v7b4bkzp
 http://pastebin.com/v7b4bkzp
[08:32] <k1l> kasper: seems like its blocked by the hardware switch
[08:32] <kasper> yes...but the actual switch triggers airplane mode
[08:32] <k1l> kasper: try a "sudo rfkill unblock all"
 rfkill list gives same output after that command
[08:34] <kasper> still blocked
[08:35] <bazhang> kasper, start with it on, flick off then back off once started
[08:36] <bazhang> back on obviously for the second
[08:36] <k1l> kasper: is this a windows dualboot?
[08:36] <k1l> is it on in bios?
[08:36] <kasper> yes it works in win7
[08:36] <cfhowlett> kasper, dell?
[08:36] <kasper> HP
[08:37] <kasper> it's a 5 year old HP elitebook 2540p
[08:37] <kasper> I read about new laptops having wireless issues in ubuntu...so i thought i was smart by getting a 2nd hand one since windows is just not an option
[08:37] <kasper> and mac is too expensive right now
[08:38] <cfhowlett> kasper, similar issue.  I solved it accidentally after 4 years of rebooting win7.  in windows F2 toggled fiwi.  under ubuntu, f2 killed wifi.  one day I accidentally hit ctrl-f2 and toggled wifi.  suggest you experiment with your ctrl, alt and super key combinations.
[08:38] <kasper> OK what is the super key exactly?
[08:38] <kasper> i came across that more often
[08:39] <ZakTheGhost> windows key
[08:39] <cfhowlett> kasper, "windows" key
[08:39] <kasper> ah cool ok
[08:39] <kasper> i figured that but wasn't sure
[08:40] <kasper> hang on switching back...
[08:40] <kasper> brb
[08:43] <chrisss123456> anyone use TeXStudio? I'm looking for a good Latex Editor
[08:43] <baizon> chrisss123456: I'm using texmaker
[08:43] <k1l> chrisss123456: i like gummi because of the instant preview mode
[08:45] <chrisss123456> baizon: How is it? Thing is, I'm wondering if there is something that a beginner can get into, which has an instant preview, but I can edit the side that is prepared... if that makes any sense. In other words, it's like microsoft word, but you can edit everything by hand should you want to change something.
[08:45] <cfhowlett> chrisss123456, I've heard good things about texstudio, but I've been using LyX.
[08:46] <baizon> chrisss123456: no, that isn't right for you then, what you search is: http://www.lyx.org/
[08:46] <chrisss123456> cfhowlett: I've downloaded lyx, however I'm not good enough to really get around comfortably. Is there an intermediate?
[08:46] <cfhowlett> chrisss123456, lyx comes with some excellent tutorials ...
[08:48] <chrisss123456> baizon: cfhowlett: ah! haha well, ok but I still need to specify all the details for layout and whatnot. Guess there's no workaround, and I just gotta dive straight in. Thanks!
[08:48] <cfhowlett> chrisss123456, lyx does have templates on download
[08:48] <ufk> hello
[08:49] <ufk> i'm trying to find out if my zabbix user has permissions to read a file.. actually i'm trying to run anything with zabbix user but i get no output no matter what command i write. for example 'su - zabbix -c "ls /tmp"'. i don't get any error messages. just no output. any ideas?
[08:50] <cfhowlett> ufk, sounds like you should start with zabbix support?
[08:51] <ufk> but i have ubuntu installed... why can't i run commands as a different user ?
[08:52] <EriC^^> ufk: you can
[08:52] <cfhowlett> ufk, break it up: su zabbix              then do the other commands
[08:52] <ufk> su zabbix just leaves me as root again
[08:52] <cfhowlett> ufk, get out of root!
[08:53] <EriC^^> ufk: try sudo su - zabbix -s /bin/bash
[08:54] <ufk> yay EriC^^ you rawk
[08:54] <k1l> i bet the user got a bin/false to prevent logging in
[08:55] <ufk> yeah it is
[08:55] <k1l> so you could think about why that is and why you want to login even then
[08:55] <EriC^^> he wants to check permissions/access to which files
[08:56] <ufk> yeah
[08:56] <liqr> hi im using an acer T230h monitor its a touch screen monitor but i could not get the audio to work
[08:56] <ufk> thanks a lot guys
[08:56] <liqr> i used my tv via hdmi there was no problem
[09:12] <liqr> the pc to tv connection works using hdmi
[09:13] <liqr> but not pc to monitor
[09:13] <liqr> anybody experienced this problem?
[09:25] <demonlove> i want to  know the history of my cmd which i  run it on my system 2 months before?
[09:25] <demonlove> it shows total 2000 cmd but from 1500 why?
[09:25] <demonlove> where are the rest?
[09:26] <k1l> see your bash history file in the users home
[09:26] <venkateshwaracho> a
[09:26] <demonlove> which cmd?
[09:26] <k1l> no command. a file
[09:27] <hateball> demonlove: you can also use the command "history" to show the contents of ~/.bash_history
[09:28] <Feng> http://img.vim-cn.com/e2/21b0918bff465205de6a83ab2d27debefdb797.png
[09:28] <venkateshwaran> a
[09:28] <k1l> Feng: this is the ubuntu support.
[09:28] <Feng> I know
[09:28] <k1l> venkateshwaran: ##test for tests please
[09:30] <venkateshwaran>    /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER venkat-3494 rwhdffqhdygr
[09:31] <Ben64> venkateshwaran: should probably do that stuff not using a channel window/tab :)
[09:31] <venkateshwaran> sorry
[09:42] <GAM002> how to setup popup notidication on ubuntu 14.04
[09:42] <GAM002> ?
[09:46] <nmSyone> hi, can anyone helpme connecting to a windows printer that has the spooler disabled?
[10:02] <Client57> 56
[10:03] <Client57> bnm xmfvfndhnmbm  gsgv g jgfvg
[10:07] <Izura> Hey room,
[10:07] <PanV> Hello: https://askubuntu.com/questions/665548/steam-not-launching-after-switching-graphics-card
[10:08] <PanV> My Steam Client stopped working after switching graphics card
[10:09] <Izura> has anyone here experienced a red stop sign in place of the keyboard applet in the top panel?
[10:09] <k1l> Izura: run a "sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade" in terminal and show the output in a pastebin please
[10:10] <cfhowlett> PanV, sudo apt-get install --reinstall steam              I'm guessing that steam fails as it can't configure for the now absent card.  reinstall should get address that.
[10:12] <Izura> Thanks k1l, doing that right now. Forgive my ignorance but what is pastebin?
[10:12] <k1l> !paste | Izura
[10:12] <PanV> @cfhowlett
[10:12] <k1l> Izura: its like uploading a photo, just with text
[10:12] <cfhowlett> PanV, ??
[10:12] <PanV> Will all the games installed delete?
[10:13] <PanV> @cfhowlett All the games I Installed with steam will be deleted after the re-install?
[10:13] <cfhowlett> PanV, no but you'll probably experience the games reinitializing/reauthorizing on steam.  perhaps backup your .steam before reinstall?
[10:14] <PanV> Meh no want Steam backup.. I got Steam Cloud, right?
[10:14] <PanV> It backs up my progress if I am correct
[10:14] <cfhowlett> PanV, you misunderstand
[10:15] <cfhowlett> PanV, rename /home/pavnv/.steam to OLD.steam or something.  reinstall.  do NOT start steam!  rename old.steam to .steam
[10:15] <PanV> Erm... I get to my home, I rename steam folder, I reinstall it then without starting it I name it back to .steam
[10:15] <PanV> Did I get it correct?
[10:16] <cfhowlett> PanV, yep.
[10:16] <cfhowlett> PanV, if you forget and start steam, a new .steam is created  - an  EMPTY .steam
[10:16] <k1l> PanV: from what video card to what video card did you make the change?
[10:16] <PanV> Thanks, I will do it later.
[10:17] <PanV> Intel to a Sapphire, BRB
[10:17] <PanV> AFK food
[10:17] <k1l> PanV: make sure the right video drivers are installed.
[10:21] <Guest94461> hi
[10:23] <U^1> hi
[10:24] <z8z> hi
[10:25] <U^1> how could I transfer ubuntu font rendering to other linux distro
[10:25] <Izura> Sorry for the delay k1l. first time pastebin user. http://pastebin.com/mdP8BHtU
[10:26] <k1l> Izura: that seemed to be succesfull. so is that red triangel icon still present?
[10:28] <Izura> Thanks, no the sign is still present. it's a red stop/cancel sign. (a circle with a line through it)
[10:29] <k1l> Izura: usually that comes up if there is an issue with the update servers. but that is all fine for you now
[10:29] <tauboga> Hi there, I've a Radeon HD6450 with HDMI but no sound. :'(
[10:30] <mcphail> tauboga: open source drivers?
[10:30] <Izura> is there anyway to refresh unity to maybe check without restarting?
[10:31] <k1l> Izura: what happens when you click that icon?
[10:31] <cfhowlett> U^1, the ubuntu font is open source.  install where you want
[10:33] <PanV> Back
[10:33] <PanV> BRB
[10:33] <Izura> k1l: i see the menu which lists. 'English(UK), Enlglish(US)...' i maybe should have mentioned this happened after i deleted some themes i was testing. i think i may have deleted something that was previously installed for unity by mistake. i get purge happy you see...
[10:34] <PanV> Erm...
[10:34] <U^1> cfhowlett, because I installed infinality on other distros thinking it is what ubuntu's using . So it never  got close to my experience with ubuntu.
[10:34] <PanV> cfhowlett, this trick didnt work, I still get the same error.
[10:34] <PanV> Running Steam on ubuntu 15.04 64-bit
[10:34] <PanV> STEAM_RUNTIME is enabled automatically
[10:34] <PanV> Installing breakpad exception handler for appid(steam)/version(1440016726)
[10:34] <PanV> libGL error: unable to load driver: radeonsi_dri.so
[10:34] <PanV> libGL error: driver pointer missing
[10:35] <cfhowlett> U^1, font and font renderer are not the same ...
[10:35] <k1l> PanV: what exact video card do you have now?
[10:35] <U^1> but now I found out ubuntu uses different thing.  I mean font render
[10:35] <cfhowlett> PanV, I'd suggest sorting your new gpu drivers and then reinstalling
[10:36] <cfhowlett> U^1, true.  a lot more difficult to transfer.  what OS are you to trying to send it to?
[10:36] <U^1> cfhowlett, I want to use ubuntu font render
[10:36] <U^1> cfhowlett, crux linux
[10:36] <PanV> AMD Radeon R7 240 4GB
[10:36] <PanV> is my graphics card
[10:36] <PanV> cfhowlett, how can I sort them
[10:36] <cfhowlett> U^1, ask crux how to import a non-crux renderer
[10:37] <cfhowlett> !amd | PanV
[10:37] <k1l> !paste | PanV
[10:37] <k1l> PanV: what does "lspci" give you? put into pastebin
[10:37] <cfhowlett> PanV, also, see if amd provides a driver for that card
[10:37] <tauboga> mcphail: yes the gui said 'recommended'. there is also fglxr
[10:37] <PanV> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12191704/
[10:38] <PanV> cfhowlett, I got an installer on a DVDD
[10:38] <PanV> but it says it is not for linux or mac
[10:38] <PanV> -.-
[10:38] <cfhowlett> PanV, then you don't have the installer you need.  check the website
[10:39] <dreamcat4> aaahhh. wine on ubuntu.
[10:39] <mcphail> tabris|away: you may need to enable hdmi audio in your boot parameters. It is considered "buggy" so disbaled by default in some kernels
[10:39] <mcphail> tabris|away: sorry - nick completion failure
[10:39] <PanV> I am lost at their website.. let me turn on my searching skills
[10:39] <mcphail> tauboga: ^^
[10:40] <mcphail> tauboga: do you know how to edit the GRUB boot command line?
[10:40] <k1l> k1l> PanV: what does "lspci" give you? put into pastebin
[10:41] <PanV> wait
[10:42] <PanV> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12191725/
[10:43] <k1l> PanV: did you install the fglrx package?
[10:43] <PanV> i thin- I found the correct drivers
[10:43] <PanV> http://support.amd.com/en-us/download/desktop?os=Ubuntu+x86+64
[10:43] <PanV> Fglrx?
[10:43] <PanV> wait
 PanV: did you install the fglrx package?
[10:43] <k1l> PanV: stop
[10:43] <PanV> No
[10:43] <PanV> I don't think so
[10:43] <PanV> at least
[10:43] <k1l> PanV: stop installing any stuff from websites. first try the ubuntu drivers first
[10:43] <PanV> Ubuntu Drivers work fine.. just not with steam
[10:44] <k1l> m(
[10:44] <PanV> I mean I am able to play games like minecraft
[10:44] <PanV> Which are not Steam games
[10:44] <PanV> *is not a Steam game
[10:44] <k1l> PanV: so what did i ask you now?
[10:44] <PanV> If I have installed fglrx.
[10:44] <k1l> is fglrx package installed or not?
[10:44] <PanV> I have no diea
[10:44] <cfhowlett> PanV, of the 3 top card makers, amd is known for being the least linux friendly.  if you can, consider trading that card for something more usable
[10:44] <PanV> *idea
[10:45] <k1l> PanV: "dpkg -l | grep fglrx" in a pastebin please
[10:47] <PanV> http://support.amd.com/en-us/download/desktop?os=Ubuntu+x86+64 I am facepalming hard because propierarty graphics are available only for 14.04 or 12.04... let me continue pasting the output of that command..
[10:47] <k1l> PanV: stop
[10:47] <PanV> I did not install anything rather than fglrx..
[10:48] <k1l> PanV: first lets work out if the ubuntu fglrx (which is the amd website driver but made working with ubuntu already) works.
[10:48] <capsicumspray> hi not sure what happened but is firefox broken with the latest update.
[10:49] <PanV> The Ubuntu driver seems to work (if its supposed to be Gallium 0.4 on AMD OLAND) I am waiting for fglrx to install
[10:49] <cfhowlett> capsicumspray, works fine on 14.04.3
[10:49] <k1l> capsicumspray: could be that some of your plugins are not made working with the latest release. but firefox is not known to be broken
[10:50] <capsicumspray> ok. dont know of any plugins. just a standard install. how can I run without plugins
[10:50] <PanV> Done, ktl
 PanV: "dpkg -l | grep fglrx" in a pastebin please
[10:51] <PanV> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12191776/
[10:51] <PanV> Already done
[10:51] <capsicumspray> chromium seems to work ok. have reinstalled firefox a couple of times but no luck
[10:51] <k1l> PanV: ok, then reboot to let the amd driver now start
[10:52] <k1l> capsicumspray: what exactly is the issue?
[10:52] <capsicumspray> when I start I get the rotating twidle then it stops
[10:53] <k1l> capsicumspray: you can open a terminal and then type "firefox" and see in the temrinal what the errors are
[10:54] <trijntje> what is the best way to share a folder over the internal network with authentication, ie requiring a password to access the share
[10:54] <capsicumspray> Could not create gnome accelerators directory `/home/chris/.gnome2/accels': Permission denied
[10:54] <cfhowlett> !samba | trijntje
[10:54] <capsicumspray> works when I run it at sudo
[10:54] <psyguru> +i psyguru
[10:55] <mcphail> capsicumspray: that is the problem right there. Don't run GUI apps as sudo
[10:55] <k1l> capsicumspray: ok, so you spoiled your home directory permissions because you run programs with sudo that are not supposed to be run with sudo
[10:56] <capsicumspray> no when run as user I get a permission denied message which is the obvious cause of my misfortune. Clearly somehow my home directory permissions appear to been stuffed up.
[10:56]  * cfhowlett wants to scream from the rooftops: DO NOT ROOT!
[10:56] <el_juliano> Test
[10:56] <k1l> capsicumspray: yes, that is because you mess you system with running gui with sudo.
[10:56] <trijntje> cfhowlett: is it possible to share ext filesystems with samba? I want to preserve things like file permissions, hard and softlinks etc
[10:57] <PanV> Now something went wrong
[10:57] <el_juliano> I want to install Ubuntu on an old desktop pc but I don't find a way to boot from the cd
[10:57] <k1l> capsicumspray: this is not windows. we dont need to be root (or tha admin windows equivalent) all the time.
[10:57] <cfhowlett> trijntje, I've no experience with samba but I bet the #ubuntu-server folk can advise.
[10:57] <PanV> I cannot login after restart to my account -.-
[10:57] <cfhowlett> !install | el_juliano
[10:57] <cfhowlett> PanV, details
[10:57] <k1l> PanV: what is the exact issue?
[10:58] <PanV> I put my pass, there is a black screen for a sec, then it kicks me back at the login screen
[10:58] <el_juliano> @ubottu thanks
[10:58] <PanV> Let me try to reboot again...
[10:58] <cfhowlett> !nomodeset | PanV,
[10:59] <PanV> I am at the login screen, Ubunru booted
[10:59] <PanV> I cant get to my account
[10:59] <cfhowlett> PanV, ah --- login loop?
[10:59] <PanV> I think?
[11:00] <cfhowlett> PanV, hey try the guest account
[11:00] <k1l> PanV: press ctrl+alt+f1. then login. then make a "ls -al" and see what is owned by your user and what by root. especially the .Xauthority is important if its root or your user
[11:00] <PanV> I will.. please tell me my stuff is not gone
[11:00] <cfhowlett> PanV, course not.
[11:00] <PanV> English Please :p
[11:01] <PanV> kk because my home is encrypted
[11:01] <k1l> capsicumspray: so you need to chown your folders in your home back to your user
[11:01] <PanV> And Guest did not work either. Yay \o/
[11:01] <k1l> PanV: ok so were there any errors while isntalling fglrx?
[11:01] <PanV> nor my sisters account
[11:02] <PanV> No
[11:02] <capsicumspray> kll: managed to sort it out. deleted the offending hidden files as su. ran firefox again and rebuilt the offending directories
[11:02] <PanV> I even used it
[11:02] <PanV> and sent the output here
[11:02] <cfhowlett> capsicumspray, "and I will never root again cuz ubuntu uses "sudo"."  say it.
[11:03] <k1l> PanV: no you didnt. i requested just a confimation as if the fglrx is isntalled or not. you did not show the installation log and if there were errors (like error for building the kernel module)
[11:03] <PanV> Oh. I was supposed to sent the installation log.
[11:03] <capsicumspray> dont know what caused it. I only use sudo when apt-get or update. Perhaps I did it by accident. It certainly wasnt intentional. I will be checking my history
[11:04] <mcphail> KingKhan: do you still need to run "aticonfig --initial" these days after fglrx installation? Perhaps PanV needs to do that?
[11:04] <k1l> PanV: no. i asked you if there were any errors.
[11:04] <PanV> I didnt notice
[11:04] <PanV> the command was usable though
[11:05] <EriC^^> PanV: /var/log/apt/term.log should show the latest terminal outputs for apt-get
[11:05] <k1l> PanV: because your situation now can be caused by errors while installing. since we cant see anything you do we are completly blind and need you to give informations or bring them after we requested them.
[11:05] <mcphail> k1l: see my nick fail above, misdirected at KingKhan
[11:05] <k1l> mcphail: i dont know.
[11:05] <PanV> Why the fudge that happened..
[11:05] <k1l> mcphail: i would check if its the proper kenrel and headers to build the module in first place after install.
[11:05] <PanV> RIP pc
[11:06] <PanV> What's with the login loop?
[11:06] <k1l> PanV: with your hectic you are making it more complicated than it is.
[11:06] <EriC^^> graphics driver most likely
[11:07] <PanV> But Graphics should work right? I mean I dont see a black screen like last time.. I am at the login screen.
[11:07] <PanV> Well whatever.. how to fix this? :3
[11:08] <k1l> can you get us a pastebin of the .xsession-errors from the users home?
[11:08] <k1l> PanV: we still dont have enough informations to know what is going wrong on your system.
[11:09] <PanV> I cant get access to my user.. I doubt I am able to pastebin anything
[11:09] <k1l> PanV: you are missing half of the questions we ask you to get to know what is wrong to help you
[11:09] <PanV> Sorry then.
[11:09] <PanV> What should I answer?
 PanV: press ctrl+alt+f1. then login. then make a "ls -al" and see what is owned by your user and what by root. especially the .Xauthority is important if its root or your user
[11:09] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:09] <capsicumspray> kll: I was attempting to use LVM to create some snapshots so I could reboot and attempt to install some apps in the snapshot in case I break my system. Unfortuantely, I discovered that my entire logical root drive takes up entire physical drive, so insufficient space to create snapshot. I will need to shrink my root but I not sure how to this. I tried booting from a livecd but I am at loss as to what to do next
[11:10] <PanV> k1l, I am seeing now a complete black screen, I dont know how to login
[11:10] <PanV> What should I do now?
[11:11] <loki__> hello guys
[11:11] <PanV> No mouse, no anything
[11:11] <k1l> PanV: ok, you could try to edit the grub one time to boot with the kernel option "nomodeset" to test if that helps:
[11:11] <k1l> !nomodeset | PanV
[11:11] <baizon> !noplymouth | PanV
[11:11] <baizon> ups
[11:12] <PanV> I really got confused last time reading that article.. I remember entering nomodeset somewhere while EriC was helping me solve a similar problem
[11:12] <EriC^^> PanV: press ctrl+alt+f1, login, type tail -40 /var/log/apt/history.log | nc termbin.com 9999
[11:12] <PanV> Let me try eric
[11:13] <PanV> pressed ctrl+alt+f1, black screen
[11:14] <PanV> I cannot login anywhere.
[11:14] <EriC^^> try nomodeset, if that doesn't work, use the recovery option with networking enabled
[11:14] <PanV> How to try nomodeset though.. article doesnt help me
[11:15] <hateball> !nomodeset
[11:15] <hateball> PanV: ^
[11:15] <EriC^^> hold shift to get grub, press e, add nomodeset after quiet splash in the line that starts with linux vmlinuz ..... press ctrl+x
[11:16] <PanV> << looks for quiet splash line
[11:16] <PanV> nomodeset should be between quiet splash and security=selinux?
[11:17] <EriC^^> yeah
[11:17] <PanV> Then CTRL + X..
[11:17] <PanV> booting
[11:17] <PanV> @EriC^^ Didnt something similar happen to me after upgrading Ubuntu?
[11:18] <PanV> Dejavu..
[11:18] <PanV> Ok I am on Login Screen, ctrl+alt+f1?
[11:18] <EriC^^> try logging in
[11:19] <PanV> Login Loop! \o/ Yay!
[11:19] <PanV> tries guest
[11:19] <EriC^^> try ctrl+alt+f1
[11:19] <PanV> Wait
[11:19] <PanV> Still a black screen.. dejavu
[11:20] <PanV> Now I am supposed to reboot at recovery mode right?
[11:20] <EriC^^> yeah
[11:20] <PanV> I kinda forgot how to do that..
[11:20] <EriC^^> advanced > recovery in rgub
[11:20] <EriC^^> *grub
[11:20] <PanV> Rebooying PC.. on grub now
[11:21] <PanV> upstart or recovery mode!
[11:21] <PanV> ?
[11:21] <PanV> rwcovery ofc..
[11:21] <PanV> Entered on recovery
[11:21] <PanV> Oh My god this cant be good
[11:22] <EriC^^> enable networking
[11:22] <PanV> I got a problem..
[11:22] <PanV> My
[11:22] <PanV> my language is greek
[11:22] <PanV> and most letters appear like a black square
[11:22] <mcphail> PanV: please stop using the "enter" key as punctuation
[11:22] <PanV> I will press netwprk button
[11:23] <PanV> @mcphail I did not understand what you said
[11:24] <PanV> Eric, I think (!) I enabled networking.. now what?
[11:24] <PanV> root?
[11:24] <EriC^^> yeah
[11:25] <PanV> What command should I write?
[11:25] <EriC^^> PanV: tail -40 /var/log/apt/history.log | nc termbin.com 9999
[11:25] <PanV> I pressed enter
[11:26] <PanV> no output
[11:26] <PanV> oh wait
[11:26] <PanV> Nevermind, I will write the output
[11:26] <petard_> Hi
[11:26] <PanV> nc: getaddrinfo: Temporary failure in name resolution
[11:27] <EriC^^> PanV: type apt-get install pastebinit
[11:27] <PanV> I think i got that installed, let me try
[11:27] <petard_> when I try to update with 'apt-get update'
[11:27] <EriC^^> if you type ping google.com does it work?
[11:27] <petard_> I got following  error: 'W: An error occurred during the signature verification. The repository is not updated and the previous index files will be used. GPG error: http://debian.datastax.com stable Release: The following signatures were invalid: KEYEXPIRED'
[11:28] <PanV> unknown host
[11:28] <petard_> How can i resolve this problem?
[11:28] <PanV> Dam
[11:28] <knob> Good morning all =)
[11:28] <mcphail> looks like you have a non-ubuntu repository there
[11:28] <PanV> Hello
[11:28] <pragomer1> how to start a program in a different language? (e.g. my system is english, I want to start darktable in german)
[11:28] <EriC^^> PanV: does ping 8.8.8.8 work?
[11:28] <cfhowlett> petard_, mixing distro repos is is not recommended
[11:28] <PanV> I dont know
[11:29] <PanV> it takes stuff from 192.168.1.3
[11:29] <trijntje> pragomer1: you can start the program from the terminal if you have the language installed
[11:29] <PanV> but it says Destination Host unreachablr
[11:29] <trijntje> LANG=de; firefox
[11:29] <petard_> cfhowlett: so what I need to do, to delete repo?
[11:29] <EriC^^> PanV: try ping 188.226.134.71
[11:29] <pragomer1> and how?
[11:29] <cfhowlett> petard_, I would. YMMV
[11:30] <pragomer1> trijntje: and how?
[11:30] <PanV> I cant close the other ping process
[11:30] <EriC^^> ctrl+c
[11:30] <PanV> kk
[11:30] <PanV> 100% packet poss.. k
[11:30] <PanV> let me ping
[11:31] <PanV> eric
[11:31] <PanV> It pinged 6 times
[11:31] <PanV> 1: 56(84) byted of data
[11:32] <EriC^^> PanV: ok, type tail -40 /var/log/apt/history.log | nc 188.226.134.71 9999
[11:32] <PanV> Rest: unreachable
[11:32] <PanV> waiy
[11:32] <HoloIRCUser4> .
[11:32] <PanV> Let me wait for output...
[11:32] <PanV> Still failure
[11:33] <PanV> Should I check if its connected on web?
[11:33] <PanV> (my modem)
[11:33] <EriC^^> PanV: ok, if it doesn't work, type lspci | grep VGA and copy the name of the card here
[11:34] <athulbinu> hai
[11:34] <PanV> Should I copy the whole thing?
[11:34] <PanV> or just the model?
[11:34] <EriC^^> just the model
[11:34] <PanV> Radeon R7 240
[11:35] <PanV> I knew that already though..
[11:35] <sak> slt
[11:35] <EriC^^> ok, type dpkg -l | grep fglrx
[11:35] <athulbinu> how to intall the ubantu studio 14.04 in ubantu
[11:35] <PanV> I pasted that output already
[11:35] <cfhowlett> athulbinu, sudo apt install ubuntustudio-desktop
[11:35] <PanV> It is the same
[11:36] <PanV> I think
[11:36] <athulbinu> tanksssssssssssss
[11:36] <cfhowlett> athulbinu, happy2help!  also #ubuntustudio
[11:36] <EriC^^> PanV: it should show if fglrx or fglrx-updates is installed
[11:37] <PanV> Erm.. I get some output
[11:37] <PanV> but its quite big
[11:37] <PanV> What should I do?
[11:38] <athulbinu> how to intall chrome in ubantu
[11:38] <PanV> erm.. search it up athulbinu
[11:38] <PanV> On google
[11:38] <EriC^^> PanV: it shouldn't be that big, did you type dpkg -l | grep fglrx ?
[11:38] <PanV> yep
[11:38] <EriC^^> is there a ii fglrx ... there?
[11:39] <PanV> yes
[11:39] <EriC^^> ok, type sudo apt-get purge fglrx*
[11:39] <PanV> and fglrx-amdcccle
[11:39] <PanV> kk
[11:39] <PanV> it is 3 packets right?
[11:39] <EriC^^> i think so, yes
[11:40] <PanV> Purged
[11:40] <athulbinu> how intall the chrome in ubantu studio
[11:40] <PanV> Failed to start atieventsd.service
[11:40] <PanV> That was an error
[11:40] <EriC^^> ok, try apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-ati
[11:40] <PanV> Ok.
[11:40] <Amoz> athulbinu, download the chrome .deb package and install it.
[11:40] <cfhowlett> !chrome | athulbinu
[11:41] <PanV> It is connecting
[11:41] <athulbinu> yes i intalled it
[11:41] <PanV> 0%
[11:41] <athulbinu> after
[11:41] <EriC^^> PanV: try apt-get install --reinstall xserver-xorg-video-{ati,radeon}
[11:41] <cfhowlett> !chromium | athulbinu
[11:41] <EriC^^> press ctrl+c and try that
[11:42] <PanV> Installing . still 0%
[11:42] <PanV> Wait BRB ima check my connection
[11:42] <EriC^^> ok
[11:42] <pragomer1> how can I run a program (from terminal I think) in a different language?
[11:43] <PanV> back
[11:43] <PanV> Still 0%, it attempts to connect to gr.archive.ubuntu.com
[11:43] <athulbinu> how to intall the chrminum
[11:43] <PanV> Oh wait
[11:43] <cfhowlett> !chromium | athulbinu, read - the - link
[11:43] <PanV> Something didnt go correctly eric
[11:43] <EriC^^> pragomer1: LANG=<language> <command>
[11:44] <PanV> I will do apt-get updatw
[11:44] <EriC^^> PanV: try to reboot
[11:45] <PanV> at recovery mode right?
[11:45] <EriC^^> you don't have internet connection i guess, but it might work anyways
[11:45] <EriC^^> no
[11:45] <PanV> Erm.. what should I do now?
[11:45] <EriC^^> type reboot
[11:45] <PanV> I pressed the reboot button at my pc
[11:46] <PanV> Is it ok?
[11:46] <EriC^^> not really
[11:46] <EriC^^> but it's ok
[11:46] <capsicumspray> kll: I have successfully booted into lvm snapshot and now can safely break my system.
[11:46] <PanV> :/ I must stop doing that then
[11:46] <EriC^^> :D
[11:46] <pragomer1> when I run LANG=de darktable it does not work (... "Locale not supported by C library. Using the fallback C locale")
[11:46] <PanV> I pressed Ubuntu.. a mouse appeared
[11:46] <PanV> then vanished
[11:46] <EriC^^> pragomer1: type locale in a terminal to get the list
[11:46] <PanV> THANKD RTIC
[11:46] <EriC^^> pragomer1: locale -a
[11:47] <PanV> *THANKS ERIC
[11:47] <PanV> Eric
[11:47] <EriC^^> no problem :)
[11:47] <PanV> it says System Problen Detected
[11:47] <athulbinu> after in stalling chrominum
[11:47] <PanV> Should I report it?
[11:47] <PanV> Wow, my keyboard on android skills suck.
[11:48] <EriC^^> PanV: as you wish
[11:48] <PanV> Thanks a lot, now I will try executing Steam
[11:48] <PanV> Still not working
[11:48] <pragomer1> ok.. e.g. with LANG=de_DE.utf8 darktable I got no error message, but still in english
[11:48] <pragomer1> with only LANG=de_DE darktable same error as above
[11:49] <PanV> Um.. Eric, are you working for Canonical or something?
[11:49] <PanV> You seem preety experienced
[11:49] <EriC^^> PanV: no
[11:49] <cfhowlett> PanV, EriC^^ is special :)
[11:49] <PanV> I know right? :)
[11:50] <PanV> Now what am I gonna do with steam.. I will reinstall it I dont really care
[11:50] <PanV> as long as my pc is working
[11:50] <PanV> thanks to eric
[11:50] <athulbinu> how to update softwer center
[11:51] <cfhowlett> athulbinu, sudo apt update
[11:51] <athulbinu> it is not working
[11:51] <CraHan> Hey all, does anyone know how you can disable network-manager in lightdm and have it enabled after a user logs in? I'd prefer network access to be disabled until a user succesfully authenticates.
[11:52] <cfhowlett> athulbinu, sudo apt update | nc termbin.com 9999
[11:52] <pragomer1> oh it had to be "de".... with quotes
[11:52] <PanV> Now.. can anybody help me with the steam stuff?
[11:53] <realpanv> Heyo :)
[11:53] <sak> how install bind9
[11:53] <gbell> how google.
[11:53] <fidel_> how full sentence
[11:53] <athulbinu> it say that it wil reported
[11:53] <fidel_> sorry ;)
[11:54] <realpanv> Who knows how to help me with the Steam stuff? ;3
[11:54] <baizon> sak: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BIND9ServerHowto
[11:54] <Ben64> realpanv: nobody until you ask an actual question
[11:54] <PanV> Excuse me then
[11:54] <realpanv> http://askubuntu.com/questions/665548/steam-not-launching-after-switching-graphics-card How am I supposed to fix this?
[11:54] <Ben64> is that your post
[11:55] <RealPanV> Yeah..
[11:55] <baizon> RealPanV: remove steam?
[11:55] <RealPanV> I want to launch steam though..
[11:55] <RealPanV> I re-installed it 2 times.
[11:55] <Ben64> looks like you'll need the amd drivers for that
[11:55] <athulbinu> how in tasawa
[11:55] <athulbinu> 'DFRWASE YGrSWh
[11:55] <athulbinu> y y
[11:55] <athulbinu> tey
[11:55] <athulbinu> ey
[11:55] <athulbinu> h
[11:56] <baizon> RealPanV: you havent removed the settings
[11:56] <RealPanV> ?
[11:56] <RealPanV> @Ben64 There arent any propierarty graphics drivers for 15.04 it seems though
[11:56] <Ben64> sure there are
[11:56] <baizon> RealPanV: http://steamcommunity.com/app/221410/discussions/0/828933455560721538/
[11:57] <RealPanV> Oh, I should delete the steam directory too... wait.
[11:57] <RealPanV> .steam --reset?
[11:57] <baizon> RealPanV: yes you can also delete the steam directory
[11:58] <RealPanV> k m8 ;D
[11:58] <baizon> both will work
[11:58] <RealPanV> Resetted.. should I reinstall Steam or should I try launching it?
[11:58] <baizon> RealPanV: launch
[11:58] <dreamcat4> wine is too difficult to deal with on ubuntu. it is reputed that most other distros 'just works'. not the case here
[11:58] <RealPanV> Kk
[11:58] <RealPanV> phuck
[11:59] <RealPanV> =.=
[11:59] <dreamcat4> have spend all morning trying to sort it out (dotnet40 on wine). now it hang after spending over an hour downloading stuff.
[11:59] <RealPanV> It still gets me the same error
[11:59] <dreamcat4> and what the heck is 'mono not installed'... mono *IS* installed
[11:59] <Ben64> RealPanV: check here https://wirejungle.wordpress.com/2015/01/09/how-to-fix-broken-steam-linux-client-with-radeon-graphics-driver-workaround/
[12:01] <mcphail> dreamcat4: if you don't know how to use wine properly, try using playonlinux instead. It will configure and install the important components for many windows packages and games
[12:02] <dreamcat4> mcphail: i tried playonlinux previously... it's a good idea. unfortunately it dictates a certain wine version (having playonlinux)
[12:02] <deepquestions> hi@ll, is there a solution to use the yubikey HMAC-SHA1 in the channelResponse mode under ubuntu?? :)
[12:03] <RealPanV> I am still lost.. can anybody guide me? :3 Thanks a lot Ben64 by the way
[12:03] <mcphail> dreamcat4: the scripts will download and install a particular wine version for a particular app, but you can override that if you want
[12:04] <RealPanV> I should paste that where? #!/bin/bash
[12:04] <RealPanV> export LD_PRELOAD='/usr/$LIB/libstdc++.so.6' #Export so all child processes are affected as well
[12:04] <RealPanV> export DISPLAY=:0
[12:04] <RealPanV> #export LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose
[12:04] <RealPanV> steam
[12:04] <RealPanV> Oops
[12:04] <Ben64> well that guy goes through the steps and explains on the way, i don't use amd so i'm not really familiar with it, try the stuff he runs and see if you get the same output, particularly "DISPLAY=:0 glxinfo | grep -i direct"
[12:05] <Ben64> RealPanV: and yeah, don't paste a bunch of lines here
[12:06] <RealPanV> Phew
[12:06] <RealPanV> I keep forgetting paste.ubuntu.com
[12:07] <acetakwas> hello
[12:07] <acetakwas> how do I set me terminal to display passwords as I type?
[12:07] <acetakwas> my*
[12:07] <RealPanV> Ben64, so how am I supposed to fix this?
[12:08] <Ben64> did you do what the website said
[12:08] <RealPanV> Wait
[12:09] <acetakwas> can anyone tell me how to display passwords in my terminal?
[12:09] <RealPanV> I dont know how to do
[12:09] <RealPanV> I mean its too big
[12:09] <RealPanV> It confuses me
[12:09] <rawiri> Applied recent updates to 15.04 and when I restarted my PC I got this error: "ACPI PPC Probe failed. Starting version 219" and the system just hangs... doesn't proceed from there.
[12:10] <trijntje> acetakwas: its safer how it is now, why would you change it?
[12:10] <rawiri> Any ideas?
[12:10] <RealPanV> What am I supposed to do with Steam now..
[12:10] <RealPanV> >,< That hurts a lot
[12:10] <acetakwas> trijntje, I understand that, it's just for learning
[12:10] <Ben64> RealPanV: read the page.
[12:10] <acetakwas> And a friend is asking
[12:10] <cfhowlett> acetakwas, easier to just write your password on a yellow sticky note on the side of your monitor. just as safe, too.
[12:10] <RealPanV> Short or long version? @Ben64
[12:11] <Ben64> long
[12:11] <RealPanV> ok.. ugh
[12:11] <acetakwas> cfhowlett, :|
[12:11] <mcphail> rawiri: can you boot an older kernel from the GRUB menu?
[12:12] <trijntje> acetakwas: if I google for 'sudo show password' I get a bunch of usefull hits, if its just for learning I'd start there
[12:12] <rawiri> mcphail: yes I can in advanced mode.
[12:13] <rawiri> Will that help?
[12:13] <mcphail> rawiri: yes. Boot into a working version first
[12:14] <rawiri> mcphail: Ok thanks I hadn't thought of doing that.
[12:14] <RealPanV> I ran a command..
[12:14] <mcphail> rawiri: probably some failure to update the initrd. I've had that before
[12:14] <coelebs> can you name few alternatives to wicd? (wireless network manager)
[12:14] <dreamcat4> woha. rm -rf ~/.wine32; winetricks dotnet40. it finally worked.
[12:14] <RealPanV> LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libstdc++.so.6 DISPLAY=:0 steam .. now I can press the Steam button at my desktop with no problems?
[12:15] <RealPanV> @Ben64
[12:15] <dreamcat4> my app runs now
[12:15] <Ben64> RealPanV: and what happened
[12:15] <mcphail> dreamcat4: if it is any comfort, wine is just as annoying on other distros. Don't believe the hype ;)
[12:16] <RealPanV> Steam opened
[12:16] <RealPanV> ;D Thanks Ben64
[12:16] <Apachez> W: Failed to fetch http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/vivid-updates/main/i18n/Translation-en  Hash Sum mismatch
[12:16] <Ben64> you'll have to run it like that each time
[12:16] <Apachez> oh great, now what?
[12:16] <RealPanV> Geez
[12:16] <Ben64> Apachez: sudo apt-get update and try again
[12:16] <RealPanV> I gotta run the same command every time?
[12:17] <Ben64> yep
[12:17] <rawiri> mcphail: Thanks, worked.
[12:17] <RealPanV> Isn't there anything more permanent?
[12:17] <mcphail> rawiri: np
[12:17] <RealPanV> Which just lets me press the button and it opens?
[12:17] <Ben64> put that into 'the button'
[12:17] <Apachez> Ben64: already did 3 times before I pasted here but looks like 4th time is the charm ;)
[12:17] <acetakwas> trijntje, yeah thanks. Didn't occur to me earlier
[12:18] <bishops> Hi all, I have this weird thing happening on my ubuntu box, this morning I woke up to see two folders in my Home folder with weird letter names. I moved them to the trash as I couldn't open them. Trying to trash the system freezes and i have to force a restart and moving them back to Home folder does the same. Any suggestions???
[12:18] <mcphail> bishops: check your disk
[12:18] <bishops> mcphail: check what and how?
[12:19] <mcphail> bishops: first, check "dmesg" for disk errors. Then, run a SMART check (and an fsck). But make sure your data is backed up
[12:20] <whatican> есть русскоязычные? здравствуйте
[12:20] <RealPanV> Could I ask one more unrelated question? Ben64
[12:20] <mcphail> bishops: in my experience, freezes on moving files around has been symptomatic of a failing drive
[12:21] <Ben64> RealPanV: if its on topic sure
[12:21] <cfhowlett> !ru | whatican
[12:21] <RealPanV> How to change steam language? ;3
[12:22] <Ben64> RealPanV: i'm sure you can figure that out, its not an ubuntu support question so it doesn't really go here
[12:22] <RealPanV> Ok
[12:23] <bishops> mcphail: can i send you teh output of dmesg?
[12:23] <mcphail> bishops: I'm irc'ing over a mobile phone, so probably won't be able to read it very well :)
[12:24] <bishops> mcphail: alright no worries. there seem to be a problem, but for me it's gibberish :)
[12:24] <mcphail> bishops: if you run "dmesg | grep -i ata" and see if there are lots of errors mentioned, that should be a clue
[12:24] <sak> I fail to install bind9 on blackbuntu. help me
[12:25] <h0mer> whats the error
[12:25] <bishops> mcphail: mm actually there is no error mentioned
[12:25] <auronandace> sak: that is not a supported ubuntu derivative
[12:25] <Ben64> sak: that is not a supported derivative, check their website for support channels
[12:26] <mcphail> bishops: then best check the SMART status of the disk. I can't remember the recommended tool for that, but someone on channel will be able to point you in the right direction
[12:26] <bishops> mcphail: alright thanks for the help
[12:26] <mcphail> bishops: after that, consider running an fsck, if your filesystem supports it
[12:26] <bishops> mcphail: I'm just wondering why did this happen in the first place!
[12:27] <mcphail> bishops: probably a failing disk or an interruption in power during a disk write, I would guess
[12:27] <bishops> mcphail: but why these folders popped out in my Home folder
[12:27] <milwaukee> o7 all, anyone very familiar with remmina? I know this isn't a remmina channel but since it comes default with Ubuntu I thought it'd be appropriate
[12:28] <mcphail> bishops: funny things happen with a corrupted filesystem
[12:28] <trijntje> bishops: you can use the program 'disks' to see if your harddisk is failing. Do you remember the exact name of the folders, that might give a hint as to what they are
[12:29] <ioria> bishops, did you connect an Apple device ?
[12:29] <bishops> trijntje: folder names (currently in the trash): t6tVuSgbkt & qHtIUNpxao
[12:29] <bishops> ioria: no
[12:30] <bishops> ioria: i did connect a nexus device yesterday
[12:30] <sak> can you do port forwarding on a key 3g
[12:31] <bishops> trijntje: I opened disks program now what?
[12:32] <trijntje> bishops: in the left panel it should show your harddisk(s), and on the right it should say: Assessment: Disk is OK (temperature)
[12:33] <bishops> trijntje: Yes it says Disk is OK
[12:33] <trijntje> you can also hit ctrl+s for more detailed metrics about how the disk is doing, but those are pretty confusing
[12:33] <bishops> trijntje: Yes I've seen those looks fine even if I don't understand much
[12:34] <ioria> bishops, have you tried to remove from command line ?
[12:34] <trijntje> bishops: if Assessment doesn't show x bad sectors its probably not an issue with the harddisk (I guess)
[12:35] <bishops> ioria: yes tried command line. Nothing happens, it just thinks for a long time, and the system starts overheating
[12:37] <ioria> bishops, with ls -ls you can chech the owner and the size ...
[12:37] <ioria> *check
[12:37] <bishops> Now after opening disks the program, the cpu is just hiking it up all the time
[12:39] <anden> i
[12:39] <bishops> It's ok guys I need to go back to work.. But this is really frustrating. Thanks for the help though!
[12:43] <richshaw> hi, i need a book recommendation for learning terminal commands?
[12:43] <richshaw> recommendations?
[12:44] <mangepatate> i'm not sure but i think there are terminal courses on codecademy
[12:44] <mangepatate> if not you can have a lot on ubuntu website
[12:45] <pauljw> richshaw, i like this one:  http://it-ebooks.info/book/2012/
[12:46] <ioria> richshaw, try this ... http://linuxcommand.org/tlcl.php
[12:46] <richshaw> pauljw: haha i just downloaded that just now
[12:46] <richshaw> i'm teaching my gf
[12:46] <richshaw> which is impressive considering i one hour ago had to explain the concept of an operating system
[12:48] <pauljw> richshaw, i think you'll like that book and it's great that your girlfriend wants to learn about linux.
[12:49] <richshaw> yeah that book looks excellent
[12:49] <richshaw> also i like how it doesn't assume you know a lot already
[12:49] <pauljw> :)
[12:51] <nobradovic> registration code
[12:52] <nobradovic> registration code mint community
[12:52] <auronandace> nobradovic: you may want to assemble a complete sentence, possibly in the form of a question
[12:52] <auronandace> !mint | nobradovic
[12:53] <venkat-3494> a
[12:53] <richshaw> girlfriend computer teach terminal
[12:53] <richshaw> book
[13:00] <U^1> how to transfer ubuntu's font rendering to other linux distros?
[13:01] <jpds> U^1: The Ubuntu font?
[13:02] <U^1> jpds, fonts are fontsl the way ubuntu renders fonts is what I am looking for
[13:02] <U^1> it is even better than infinality
[13:03] <jpds> U^1: Why would it be different from any other Linux distro?
[13:04] <jpds> U^1: They are, after all, using the same libraries and code bases in most ways
[13:07] <U^1> jpds,  the Ubuntu font rendering is different from other distro like fedora and such
[13:07] <U^1> according to archwiki
[13:08] <jpds> U^1: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Font_configuration#Ubuntu
[13:08] <jpds> U^1: Has links to the packages which have the patches
[13:09] <cfhowlett> U^1, *maybe* if it's an ubuntu based OS.  but even so; only ubuntu is supported here, so as you're trying to solve a problem on a non-supported OS, it's off-topic in this channel
[13:10] <cfhowlett> !flavors | U^1 these flavors are supported.  all others are not.
[13:11] <U^1> cfhowlett, let me make it on topic. where is the files containing the specific of ubuntu font rendering. is it better?
[13:13] <Pici> U^1: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/freetype https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fontconfig
[13:14] <U^1> Pici, cfhowlett thanks
[13:14] <jpds> U^1: I gave you the links to those
[13:14] <cfhowlett> U^1, best of luck
[13:14] <Pici> jpds: indeed, all I did was click through to the ubuntu pages on those links.
[13:14] <jpds> U^1: Link I sent, click on one of the list: https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/freetype2-ubuntu/ # "Sources"
[13:15] <U^1> jpds, yes I just found that out. thank you. forget to check the irc queue
[13:17] <Lewix> so we use active directory. I'm trying to add a user
[13:17] <Lewix> louis@catsdev04:/root$ passwd
[13:17] <Lewix> passwd: User not known to the underlying authentication module
[13:17] <Lewix> passwd: password unchanged
[13:18] <Lewix>  sudo samba-tool user add louis
[13:18] <Lewix> https://gist.github.com/6ewis/ac4a2c18cb9ce7f9ce08 : Error im getting
[13:22] <Pinkamena_D> Every time I do a suspend/resume cycle on my thinkpad x220, the network manager lists wifi as 'device not managed'. I can execute a $ sudo service network-manager restart to fix the issue.
[13:22] <Pinkamena_D> How can I fix this so I do not need to do the restart?
[13:23] <RealPanV> Pinkamena_D, I think
[13:23] <RealPanV> Wait I think I got the solution
[13:23] <RealPanV> You can modify the apps which start on startup
[13:23] <RealPanV> You can add this network restart command there
[13:24] <RealPanV> So when you log in it automatically executes this command
[13:24] <RealPanV> Even though that is not the best solution
[13:24] <Pinkamena_D> It is wake from sleep not bootup, and the nm-applet is running, it just lists wifi as 'not managed'
[13:24] <RealPanV> Then I have no idea.
[13:24] <RealPanV> Wait is this Ubuntu or Ubuntu mobile?
[13:24] <Pinkamena_D> ubuntu desktop 14.04
[13:25] <RealPanV> Oh
[13:25] <RealPanV> Then I quit
[13:25] <yugdrix> hi guys
[13:26] <jackal__> hi
[13:27] <jackal__> hello
[13:27] <leonic> hello
[13:33] <yugdrix> who has a mac here
[13:33] <yugdrix> ?
[13:34] <RealPanV> !ubuntu | yugdrix
[13:34] <RealPanV> Oh wait
[13:34] <RealPanV> wrong
[13:34] <RealPanV> !mac | yugdrix
[13:34] <RealPanV> =.=
[13:34] <RealPanV> Whatever
[13:34] <RealPanV> Can anybody help me with STeam?
[13:35] <akxwi-dave> whats the problem?
[13:35] <RealPanV> I upgraded to AMD Radeon R7 240 4 GB graphics card
[13:35] <RealPanV> And since then I cant open Steam.. check this article
[13:36] <RealPanV> https://wirejungle.wordpress.com/2015/01/09/how-to-fix-broken-steam-linux-client-with-radeon-graphics-driver-workaround/
[13:36] <RealPanV> I now can open steam, but I cannot launch any game from there
[13:36] <RealPanV> like Unturned
[13:37] <RealPanV> Ben64, are you AFK?
[13:37] <U^1> first; please introduce me a good screen recorder. I need to make some screen-casts. right now I am using RecordmyScreen and A/V doesn't sync together. (why?)
[13:37] <RealPanV> OBS is a nice one, U^l
[13:37] <akxwi-dave> hmm.. have you got the latest Catalyst suite installed?
[13:37] <RealPanV> akxwi-dave, the what?
[13:38] <RealPanV> I use open source drivers, no Official drivers for 15.04, I think
[13:38] <akxwi-dave> AMD drivers for their Cards
[13:38] <DJones> !screencast | U^1 There's a few suggestions in the bots's info, I've not used any, but maybe test and see which is the best for you,
[13:38] <akxwi-dave> if you go into restricted drivers and install the Proprioty drivers then it should be ok
[13:38] <RealPanV> akxwi-dave, I use Gallium 0.4 on AMD OLAND
[13:38] <RealPanV> Where-?
[13:39] <RealPanV> wait let me search it up
[13:40] <akxwi-dave> system settings - then additional drivers and select the AMD drivers from there
[13:41] <RealPanV> I got the xserver choice, the video driver from fglrx-updates
[13:41] <RealPanV> and from fglrx
[13:41] <RealPanV> What should I choose?
[13:42] <RealPanV> akxwi-dave, ?
[13:43] <akxwi-dave> chose the one with the highest number that has (tested) next to it
[13:43] <RealPanV> I dont see tested.. perhaps its my lanuage? please put on google translate ιδιοταγής
[13:43] <geothom230> how can i fix my software center crashed on ubuntu 14.0.3?Don't open...
[13:44] <GAM002> !Wallpapper
[13:44] <RealPanV> wait I will put it
[13:44] <GAM002> !Themes
[13:44] <RealPanV> Oh.. KK
[13:44] <akxwi-dave> once installed do a restart for it to take affect  - yes thats the one
[13:45] <RealPanV> last time I installed it before It did a login loop, I might request for help uninstaliing it and then installing x.org back
[13:45] <RealPanV> Could I get some help regards that?
[13:45] <akxwi-dave> no probs.. I have a 270 as well and they work fine for me..
[13:45] <RealPanV> Ok, ;D Let me try then
[13:47] <RealPanV> Restarting
[13:47] <RealPanV> BRB\
[13:49] <PanV> I got a prob
[13:50] <PanV> Can you help me get x org back since the propierarty dont work?
[13:50] <PanV> ?
[13:51] <PanV> Please :(
[13:51] <akxwi-dave> Hi sorry was afk..
[13:51] <PanV> Its k
[13:52] <PanV> for me those graphics dont work
[13:52] <PanV> I am at recovery mode with networking
[13:52] <PanV> Please tell me how to get xorg back ;.;
[13:52] <akxwi-dave> Yes if you back to the additonal drivers and you can then reselect the mesa divers froom there
[13:52] <PanV> :/ I chose the fglxr thing
[13:52] <PanV> Can we come back to mesa or sth?
[13:53] <PanV> just tell me how to purge the one I have and get back the other one
[13:53] <akxwi-dave> yes two mins my network is playing up..
[13:53] <PanV> kk
[13:54] <PanV> akxwi-dave, I purged it, how to install others?
[13:56] <akxwi-dave> best way is to rem the conf, with     sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[13:56] <PanV> I want to get xorg back tho
[13:56] <akxwi-dave> followed by    sudo apt-get install --reinstall xserver-xorg-core libgl1-mesa-glx:i386 libgl1-mesa-dri:i386 libgl1-mesa-glx:amd64 libgl1-mesa-dri:amd6
[13:56] <razor_> exit
[13:56] <akxwi-dave> to put a clean xorg back
[13:57] <akxwi-dave> tehn run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[13:57] <akxwi-dave>  followed by a reboot
[13:57] <akxwi-dave>  and then you will have a full clean xorg
[13:58] <OerHeks> Panhowto remove ati fglrx drivers > http://askubuntu.com/a/68312
[13:59] <PanV> akwi
[13:59] <PanV> libgl1-mesa-dri doesnt exist
[13:59] <PanV> OerHeks, I am on tablet, can you explain to me what to do?
[14:00] <akxwi-dave> sorry that last bit shouyld have said and64
[14:00] <PanV> kk
[14:00] <akxwi-dave> amd64
[14:00] <OerHeks> yeah, the last part of that line from akxwi-dave misses the 4
[14:00] <PanV> I know
[14:00] <akxwi-dave> :-)
[14:00] <PanV> i fixed it
[14:00] <OerHeks> it is from the same page
[14:00] <PanV> waitin it to connect to ubuntu servers
[14:01] <PanV> akxwi, why does this happen when I get those drivers?
[14:01] <PanV> Fudge.. nothing happens.
[14:01] <akxwi-dave> Oers. been trying to find that page again for ages..  its one of the besst help out there.. nicked the data of it and it stays on my desktop.. :-)
[14:02] <akxwi-dave> Pan have you re-booted
[14:02] <PanV> ?
[14:02] <PanV> akxwi, It doesnt even download
[14:02] <PanV> why should i reboot when I have no drivera?
[14:02] <PanV> *drivers
[14:02] <Amoz> PanV, can you ping google.com?
[14:03] <PanV> dont think so
[14:03] <PanV> unknown host
[14:03] <PanV> how can i connect 2 my wifi when recovery network mode?
[14:04] <PanV> omfg akxwi left
[14:04] <PanV> ima doomed
[14:04] <MonkeyDust> PanV  start with iwlist
[14:04] <PanV> Kk
[14:04] <depesz> hi. i have .dsc, orig.tar.xz, and debian.tar.gz files, how can I make deb out of it?
[14:04] <depesz> i.e. what command/toold?
[14:04] <PanV> Now? I wrote iwlist
[14:05] <OerHeks> !build | depesz
[14:05] <PanV> MonkeyDust, what am I supposed to write?
[14:07] <depesz> OerHeks: it talks about ./configyure, and compilation from normal sources
[14:07] <depesz> but I think thaty when having ready whatever.dsc, the procedure was slighly different, though I don't recall specifics
[14:08] <loki_> hello, is there any way to update apache2 under ubuntu 14.04?
[14:08] <loki_> in some package based manner...
[14:08] <PanV> -.- I am getting kinda pissed.. a guy tells me to install something, didn't work well, I ask help for undoing and his connection gets lost. u.u Well you cant take anything you want at this life then
[14:08] <loki_> maybe there is some sort of repo
[14:09] <loki_> i need some functionality of apach2 which version 2.4.7 don't have.
[14:09] <PanV> Can anybody help me? I can't login
[14:09] <PanV> to ubuntu
[14:09] <EriC^^> loki_: if you installed apache2 via the repos then it'll update as ubuntu release it in the repos
[14:10] <PanV> Oh hi EriC.. I did the same mistake
[14:10] <leonic> hello i am in a ubutu 14.04 live  usb  , i wanto to isntall a ubuntu mate iso in another usb  what do i need
[14:10] <loki_> EriC^^, but it is always 2.4.7... as i read they just fixed version and back port only security issues.
[14:10] <EriC^^> leonic: sudo dd if=/path/to/iso of=/dev/sdX bs=4M && sync
[14:10] <PanV> Could you just tell me how to connect to internet on Recovery Mode?
[14:10] <EriC^^> leonic: type sudo parted -l to get the list of disks and your usb's name
[14:10] <PanV> :3
[14:10] <cfhowlett> leonic, torrent the ubuntu-mate .iso and either use command line or ubuntu startup disk creator to make the USB
[14:10] <MonkeyDust> leonic  in the live session, install unetbootin, download the mate iso and proceed
[14:10] <EriC^^> PanV: enable networking should do it
[14:11] <EriC^^> PanV: what same mistake?
[14:11] <PanV> already done eric
[14:11] <PanV> it seems to not be connected
[14:11] <PanV> I tried to install fglxr
[14:11] <EriC^^> purge it, try installing fglrx-updates maybe, if you need it
[14:11] <PanV> Now I purged it and want to get xorg back, I got the command for a clean install
[14:12] <shafox> I am trying to connect to my data card i.e. photon plus I am in india, but it doesnt detect in my wireless connection list
[14:12] <PanV> EriC, what is the difference?
[14:12] <EriC^^> PanV: fglrx-updates has newer drivers
[14:12] <PanV> Ph
[14:12] <PanV> *Oh
[14:12] <koustuv> shafox: you can use sakis3g script. i have vodafone 3g and i use it, works like a charm
[14:13] <Agitime> Does anyone know if it's possible to connect a PC (Windows 7) to a laptop (Ubuntu 14.04), where I can control the PC through the laptop simply by switching a "window"?
[14:13] <PanV> It cant connect to gr.archive.ubuntu.com
[14:13] <Agitime> Sort of like Teamviewer I suppose
[14:13] <Pantsu> Agitime: rdesktop, vnc
[14:13] <PanV> @Agitime Talking about Virtual Box?
[14:13] <shafox> koustuv: thing is even if i try to add a connection it doesnt show up in the device list but in the lsusb it does show up as a device
[14:13] <EriC^^> PanV: purge fglrx, then boot normally and install fglrx-updates
[14:13] <Pantsu> Agitime: windows supports rdesktop out of the box
[14:14] <leonic> do you mean torrent the mate iso to chks if  is in good shape?; i just use the mk5um  and i looked good y think
[14:14] <PanV> EriC, can I boot with no drivers?
[14:14] <cfhowlett> leonic, do you HAVE the mate .iso?
[14:14] <EriC^^> PanV: you don't have the xorg driver anymore?
[14:14] <Agitime> @Pantsu Not really like that, I have a desktop PC standing by but I want to be able to control it with the laptop keyboard and mouse
[14:14] <PanV> I dont think so
[14:15] <Pantsu> Agitime: rdesktop lets you do that
[14:15] <PanV> let me see
[14:15] <Pantsu> Agitime: or you can use a KVMoIP solution
[14:15] <Pantsu> (most of them suck)
[14:15] <Agitime> Oh okay, I'll check it out. Thanks!
[14:15] <koustuv> shafox: yup same problem i had. try it with the sakis3g script once and see how it goes
[14:15] <PanV> Can I boot?
[14:15] <shafox> koustuv: thanks will give it a go
[14:15] <Pantsu> like synergy
[14:15] <EriC^^> PanV: did you remove xserver-xorg-video-radeon?
[14:15] <Pantsu> http://synergy-project.org/
[14:15] <PanV> a
[14:16] <PanV> eric, no since I booted
[14:16] <PanV> since I purged that thing
[14:16] <leonic> yes
[14:16] <PanV> Now what?
[14:16] <cfhowlett> leonic, ok then; make the USB
[14:16] <PanV> I cant launch steam, thats why I need the propierarty graphics
[14:16] <Agitime> alright ill take a look at synergy too
[14:18] <PanV> 0.0 What am I supposed to do now?
[14:19] <PanV> cry about my 110 bucks..
[14:19] <EriC^^> PanV: did you purge fglrx?
[14:19] <PanV> yes
[14:19] <PanV> I booted normally
[14:19] <EriC^^> ok, type sudo apt-get install fglrx-updates
[14:19] <EriC^^> or try the amd driver from their website, it would be the latest
[14:20] <shafox> koustuv: May i pm ?
[14:20] <PanV> EriC, on AMD site?
[14:20] <EriC^^> PanV: first type sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-image-generic linux-image-headers
[14:20] <PanV> wait
[14:21] <EriC^^> PanV: yes, installing fglrx-updates would be easier to do, try that first
[14:21] <koustuv> shafox: yes sure!
[14:21] <PanV> Eric, let me reboot my netowrk, so dam sloe
[14:21] <PanV> slow
[14:21] <PanV> BRB
[14:22] <EriC^^> PanV: my bad, type sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-image-generic linux-headers-generic
[14:22] <eonbluez> It appears that "log_daemon_msg" is no longer a function in lsb/init.d in Ubuntu 14.04?
[14:23] <eonbluez> Is there a way to enable that in init.d, or do I have to modify my init scripts somehow?
[14:26] <PanV> Can ypu
[14:26] <PanV> *Can you hear my messgaes?
[14:27] <leonic> whit unetbootin ca in install other distros in the same disk?¿
[14:27] <PanV> EriC^^?
[14:28] <PanV> Hello?
[14:28] <PanV> leonic, I doubt that
[14:29] <PanV> since it formats everything on the disk after install
[14:29] <cfhowlett> leonic, multiboot is the tool for that
[14:29] <depesz> where can I find libavcodec54 for ubuntu vivid ? it seems to be only till trusty
[14:30] <PanV> EriC^^, Are you dead
[14:30] <PanV> ?
[14:30] <PanV> :o
[14:31] <PanV> akxwi, where have you been?
[14:31] <PanV> ;)
[14:31] <ali_> hi guys
[14:32] <PanV> hi ali_
[14:32] <ali_> i wanna download and install apt-get
[14:32] <ali_> but i dont know wich one to download
[14:32] <compdoc> apt-get should be installed already
[14:32] <PanV> Are you a troll?
[14:32] <akxwi-dave> sorry connection dropped..   someone's  cut thru one of themain wires near my telecom exchange and the repairs not very stable
[14:32] <ali_> yes
[14:32] <PanV> x3
[14:32] <PanV> Its k
[14:32] <cfhowlett> ali_, ?  apt and apt-get are included in ubuntu
[14:32] <ali_> but i was trying to fix it
[14:33] <ali_> it wasnt working
[14:33] <ali_> and i removed it
[14:33] <PanV> ali_ Explain?
[14:33] <ali_> and i dont know how it happened
[14:33] <compdoc> how can you install anything now?
[14:33] <cfhowlett> ali_, that was ... unwise
[14:33] <ali_> im new to ubuntu
[14:33] <PanV> How can you remove apt-get anyways?
[14:33] <PanV> What the hell x3
[14:33] <akxwi-dave> Pan did you get your x back?
[14:33] <cfhowlett> ali_, reinstall ubuntu.  stop thinking it's windows.
[14:33] <ali_> cfhowlett, that was silly
[14:33] <cfhowlett> ali_, removing core parts of the OS is silly.
[14:34] <PanV> Akxwi, yeah.. eric recommended to me to install from website
[14:34] <ali_> so i prefer to download ubuntu15.04 and install it
[14:34] <ali_> thanks guys
[14:34] <ali_> :P
[14:34] <PanV> even tho I install fglrx updates
[14:34] <ali_> aaaaah
[14:34] <ali_> an other question
[14:34] <PanV> ali_ Why the hell did you do that? :3
[14:34] <akxwi-dave> ahh ... thats good
[14:34] <PanV> I mean you got my mind blown
[14:35] <ali_> isnt there any way to install it?
[14:35] <cfhowlett> ali_, "it"?
[14:35] <PanV> Ali_ I have no idea
[14:35] <PanV> cfhowlett, the apt get
[14:35] <kasper> Hi...i was here earlier with a wifi issue
[14:35] <ali_> i mean apt-get
[14:35] <PanV> kasper, #wifi
[14:35] <cfhowlett> ali_, to install you need apt or apt-get.
[14:35] <kasper> lol seriously?
[14:35] <leonic> thanks rebboting now
[14:35] <PanV> hehe
[14:36] <PanV> nope
[14:36] <PanV> kasper
[14:36] <kasper> anyway...i found intel website...saying something like #cp iwlwifi-6000-4.ucode /lib/firmware
[14:36] <kasper> and then "you can now load the firmware"
[14:37] <kasper> This might sound absurd...but how do i load the firmware?!
[14:37] <PanV> Kadper, just like you would load a program
[14:37] <kasper> plus how do i check if the installation worked?
[14:38] <kasper> PanV, so how do i load a program? i am an absolute terminal newb and i don want to demolish my system
[14:39] <PanV> kasper, is there a download button?
[14:39] <kasper> i downloaded a .tgz file...unwrapped it and it contains a readme a license and a .ucode
[14:40] <leonic> mmm i thiks i make t usb bootable  so i just have to  install it after booting instead of just try it whiout install
[14:40] <PanV> you dont always need to have the terminal thing
[14:40] <kasper> ah!
[14:41] <thisguygronk> leave
[14:42] <kasper> PanV, cant seem to find the files though...only that .tgz one
[14:43] <TJ-> kasper: the .ucode file is the firmware, (u is an abortion of the micro (mew) symbol - read ucode as 'microcode')
[14:43] <kasper> yes i got that :) question is how do i load it...the instructions are very generic and it keeps saying it all depends on my distro
[14:43] <TJ-> kasper: The kernel/udevd looks for all firmware files in "/lib/firmware/" - transfer the file to that directory and when the kernel module loads and requests its firmware, the kernel/udevd will find it
[14:43] <kasper> if i have x y or z depends on what distro i use
[14:44] <kasper> ok...so that means a reboot...that loads the kernel i guess?
[14:44] <TJ-> kasper: no, if the module is dynamically loaded no boot is needed
[14:45] <kasper> TJ-, so another silly question...i think (like on the mac) the /lib/firmware is hidden by default?
[14:45] <TJ-> kasper: You can unload the module if it is already loaded ("modprobe -r <module-name>)" and reload it "modprobe <module-name>"
[14:45] <kasper> to prevent newbs like me from trashing their system
[14:46] <TJ-> kasper: No, "/lib/firmware/" is writeable by root only. To copy a file into it use sudo. As in "sudo cp filename.ucode /lib/firmware/"
[14:47] <TJ-> kasper: you can use "lsmod" to LiSt MODules curently in memory, to find out if you need to unload it first. E.g. "lsmod | grep iwl" will limit results that contain the string 'iwl'
[14:48] <TJ-> kasper: to be sure you have the correct firmware file, you can check what the module will ask for with "modinfo <module-name>" and look at the lines prefixed "firmware:"
[14:48] <PanV> I cannot *ing launch the *ing Steam App -.-
[14:48] <kasper> kasper@EliteBook:~$ modinfo iwlwifi-6000-4.ucode
[14:48] <kasper> modinfo: ERROR: Module iwlwifi-6000-4.ucode not found.
[14:49] <lefti> Hello guys, i tried to oc my raspi2 on ubuntu mate on this tutorial, but it still says its on 900mhz https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=112253
[14:49] <lefti> what am i doing wrong?
[14:49] <bazhang> #ubuntu-steam PanV
[14:49] <MonkeyDust> lefti  what's oc? a typo?
[14:49] <lefti> overclock
[14:51] <MonkeyDust> lefti  there are some 500 people in #raspberrypi
[14:51] <TJ-> kasper: no no no ... "modinfo iwlwifi"
[14:51] <lefti> im kinda new to linux, so i guess i did something wrong when editing the config.txt
[14:51] <lefti> kk, asking then there
[14:51] <cfhowlett> lefti, overclocking on a pi?  this is the wrong channel.
[14:52] <kasper> TJ-, ok sorry typo...i´ll copy paste from now on
[14:52] <lefti> thought i can still ask here because its ubuntu
[14:52] <sabbie> If I have two section one commands with the same name. How do I specify which one to open with man? (For example: openssl (1) verify and argyll (1) verify)
[14:52] <kasper> ok that got a result
[14:53] <ali_> hi again
[14:53] <TJ-> kasper: and you can list the already installed firmwares with "ls /lib/firmware/iwlwifi*"
[14:53] <ali_> guys antother question
[14:53] <ali_> can i upgrade my ubuntu with ubuntu live?
[14:53] <ali_> is there any way?
[14:54] <kasper> TJ-, ok so it's allready installed :-((
[14:54] <cfhowlett> ali_, this is the same ubuntu you castrated by removing apt and apt-get?
[14:54] <kasper> so it's not a firmware issue :((
[14:54] <ali_> yeah
[14:54] <cfhowlett> ali_, no.  reinstall
[14:54] <TJ-> kasper: The firmware you mentioned earlier is part of the "linux-firmware" package which should already be installed:   "dpkg -S iwlwifi-6000-4.ucode" ==> "linux-firmware: /lib/firmware/iwlwifi-6000-4.ucode"
[14:55] <ali_> :|
[14:55] <ali_> ok
[14:55] <ali_> tnx
[14:55] <ioria> ali_ trusty or vivid ?
[14:55] <ali_> trusty i guess
[14:55] <kasper> TJ-, well the main issue is my wifi not working...the hardware button on the laptop switches airplane mode on and off
[14:55] <ali_> im new tu linux
[14:55] <ozstriker> salve
[14:55] <ali_> to*
[14:55] <Pici> !it | ozstriker
[14:55] <ioria> ali_  64 bit ?
[14:56] <ali_> yeah
[14:56] <kasper> and so...after research and googeling etc...i found that firmware on intel's website
[14:56] <linelevel1> Hi, I'm having a strange issue with wifi: I see all the available wireless networks, but when I try to connect to any of them (yes, I've tried several), it prompts me for the password, then fails to connect after I've typed the correct password. Any suggestions for how I can troubleshoot this?
[14:56] <ozstriker>  /join #ubuntu-it
[14:56] <kasper> but i guess...it's part of standard ubuntu installation..i thought maybe because the laptop is a few years old it wouldn't be there by default
[14:56] <ioria> ali_  your distro could be damaged  already ... so no harm if you try manual install of apt ... http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/amd64/apt/download
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[14:57] <cfhowlett> !spam | substance
[14:57] <ioria> ali_   it's a .deb file , and tou can install it with dpkg -i or Gdebi
[14:58] <ioria> *you
[14:58] <ali_> ioria, ok thank you alot :)
[14:58] <ioria> ali_   but it would be better a flash installation ....
[14:58] <ioria> *fresh
[14:59] <TJ-> kasper: Can you "pastebinit /var/log/dmesg" ?
[14:59] <ali_> it will take 3 hours to download the new version
[14:59] <ali_> now im downloading it
[14:59] <ali_> and i will install it
[14:59] <ali_> but i guess it is better to know how to fix this problem
[14:59] <ali_> :)
[15:00] <PanV> I am so *ing pissed
[15:00] <ioria> ali_  it would be interesting to know how you lost it
[15:00] <ali_> :D
[15:00] <PanV> Does anybody know how to fix my damn Steam client?
[15:00] <kasper> TJ-, http://paste.ubuntu.com/12193039/
[15:00] <ali_> im new to linux
[15:01] <cfhowlett> PanV, chillax.  ask steam.  they are the experts.
[15:01] <MonkeyDust> ali_  you said that already
[15:01] <PanV> http://steamcommunity.com/app/221410/discussions/0/528398719811875111/
[15:01] <PanV> Look at that
[15:01] <PanV> Steam Support?
[15:01] <OerHeks> #valve
[15:01] <OerHeks> or #ubuntu-steam
[15:01] <ali_> my apt-get wasnt getting updated and the mirrors were not changing
[15:01] <ali_> so i thought i can remove it using synaptic and again install it
[15:02] <ali_> but  i was wrong
[15:02] <ali_> :P
[15:02] <PanV> Wait then
[15:02] <PanV> #Ubuntu-steam.. thanks OerHeks
[15:03] <TJ-> kasper: take a look at lines 829+ ... and in particular line 832
[15:03] <w2vy> who can I contact at canoncial about commerical licensing?
[15:04] <TJ-> kasper: down to line 845... everything looks good there. the radio is disabled though, so maybe the hardware  switch is off?
[15:04] <TJ-> kasper: "pastebinit <( rfkill list )"
[15:04] <kasper> the hardware switch switches on and off airplane mode
[15:04] <PanV> Nobody helps...
[15:04] <OerHeks> w2vy, http://www.canonical.com/services/contact-us
[15:05] <MonkeyDust> w2vy  start here, i guess the people at canonical will give it to the appropriate person http://www.canonical.com/services/contact-us
[15:05] <OerHeks> PanV try #valve.. they get the money, so they should give support :-P
[15:05] <kasper> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12193050/
[15:05] <kasper> TJ-, http://paste.ubuntu.com/12193050/
[15:05] <TJ-> kasper: right. There are 2 rfkill levels, software controlled, and hardware controlled
[15:05] <w2vy> i guess I can try that AGAIN... did so about a week ago...
[15:05] <PanV> OerHeks, #valve is empty. Gaben must have done dirty stuff there
[15:05] <PanV> XD
[15:06] <TJ-> kasper: and that report shows the hardware controlled RF Kill is still enabled. I notice you have an HP Elitebook... it will have either a dedicated switch to control the radio, or a hotkey combo on the keyboard, is that correct?
[15:06] <PanV> Does anybody know Valve's f*ing email?
[15:06] <bazhang> !guidelines | PanV
[15:06] <PanV> sorry
[15:06] <bazhang> stop the cursing, for the last time PanV
[15:06] <PanV> I am so mad x3
[15:06] <PanV> KK
[15:07] <kasper> TJ-, it has a button below the screen yes...in windows this is used to switch on and off wireless and it turns blue when i use wifi
[15:07] <kasper> TJ-, in ubuntu however, the button controls airplane mode
[15:07] <TJ-> kasper: You're the 2nd person with this issue (unless you're the person I helped before) in the past 2 weeks
[15:07] <kasper> hotkey combo i don't know
[15:08] <kasper> TJ-, i was here earlier today...not in the past 2 weeks...got this puppy on saturday
[15:08] <TJ-> kasper: and it is a bug in the ACPI DSDT firmware of the HP. When it detects the Linux OS, it doesn't correctly enabled the radio kill switch functions
[15:08] <MonkeyDust> puppy?
[15:08] <MonkeyDust> kasper  as in puppy linux?
[15:09] <kasper> no...
[15:09] <kasper> just an expression...a pet name for my very first linux machine
[15:09] <kasper> i was so proud i got through the install without any help...only took me 48 hours and 2 sleepless nights on coffee
[15:10] <TJ-> kasper: The common issue is that the hp-wmi kernel module calls the ACPI functions declared by the HP BIOS to enable the radio, but because the ACPI implementation has detected Linux, it doesn't do the same thing as when it detects Windows, and only toggles the soft block not the hard block
[15:10] <TJ-> kasper: do you get a result from "lsmod | grep hp-wmi" ?
[15:10] <kasper> TJ-, nope
[15:11] <kasper> I am startin uni next week...so wireless is kinda essential :-(
[15:12] <TJ-> kasper: that is strange; the rfkill device names come from that module. Let me read the dmesg some more.
[15:12] <kasper> TJ-, thank you!
[15:12] <TJ-> kasper:  line 839: "hp_wmi: device hp-bluetooth blocked by BIOS"
[15:12] <POQDavid> Hi guys
[15:12] <marjory_baxter> hi
[15:12] <kasper> this is so much more helpfull then reading through endless posts online :)
[15:13] <POQDavid> i got a bit of problem deciding on Iptables
[15:13] <TJ-> kasper: Can I suggest, before we go any further, you reboot into the BIOS Setup and explore it for any settings that indicate they enable/disable the Wifi/Bluetooth/WWAN radios?
[15:13] <kasper> go for 192.168.x.x
[15:14] <kasper> TJ-, I will...but if that is the case shouldn't it be blocked in win7 as well?
[15:14] <TJ-> kasper: if that message means there BIOS Setup controls the radio state, then it will be a simple fix
[15:14] <POQDavid> Will you guys count this http://www.debuntu.org/series/iptables-how-to-share-your-internet-connection/ as the best way to setup Iptables
[15:14] <TJ-> kasper: In theory, but as I said, the ACPI DSDT is detecting Linux ... I doubt you'll find anything to be honest but I'd rather be sure and avoid wasting time
[15:15] <POQDavid> kasper: some times you can try to turn on the wifi on win then on ubuntu
[15:15] <POQDavid> kasper: i had similar problem in one of my pc
[15:15] <kasper> TJ-, yes...hang on please...rebooting in BIOS
[15:15] <TJ-> kasper: also, it seems that checking for the module in memory should have used an underscore: "lsmod | grep hp_wmi"
[15:16] <MonkeyDust> POQDavid  windows settings have nothing to do with ubuntu settings
[15:16] <kasper> TJ-, http://pastebin.com/xJQ2HfyH
[15:17] <POQDavid> MonkeyDust: lets just say if turn off wifi in my old laptop Ubuntu wont find it
[15:17] <kasper> OK i am quickly checking the bios
[15:17] <kasper> hold on
[15:17] <kasper> brb
[15:18] <MonkeyDust> POQDavid  hardware, then, you mean?
[15:18] <POQDavid> MonkeyDust: yah well if i don't turn of the wifi from windows it works fine in Ubuntu
[15:21] <POQDavid> so anyone here knows about Iptables
[15:21] <kasper> TJ-, integrated BT is off in BIOS
[15:21] <MonkeyDust> POQDavid  that's a coincidence, then, don't make people think it's a working solution
[15:21] <bazhang> #netfilter POQDavid
[15:22] <TJ-> kasper: hmmm... that sounds like it should be On, don't you think?
[15:22] <POQDavid> bazhang: whats that
[15:22] <zeroXten> Hi. Am I correct in thinking that 12.04 doesn't include the ip_set kernel module? One can install the ipset command, but the module doesn't seem to exist.
[15:22] <bazhang> POQDavid, the channel for Iptables
[15:23] <POQDavid> bazhang: oh thank you so much i didn't know there is one
[15:23] <bazhang> welcome
[15:24] <POQDavid> Well guys have a good day/night i will go to the other chan
[15:24] <kasper> TJ-, i read on a ubuntu help site that BT can interfere with WFI
[15:24] <kasper> that it's a common issue
[15:25] <kasper> but i didn't switch it off...it was already off
[15:25] <TJ-> kasper: it can, but generally the wifi drivers have a co-exist functionality
[15:25] <TJ-> kasper: e.g. if you do "modinfo iwlwifi" you'll see it has the parameter "parm:           bt_coex_active:enable wifi/bt co-exist (default: enable) (bool)"
[15:26] <kasper> so one will not work without the other?
[15:27] <TJ-> kasper: usually they can work independently, but it depends on whether the functions are combined in one chipset or in separate chipsets
[15:28] <kasper> TJ-, BT is switched on now but i still can't switch on wifi in ubuntu...BUT the status light of the physical button is now turning blue rather then staying orange the whole time
[15:28] <kasper> that is what changed
[15:28] <kasper> all other settings were ON everything that pointed to wifi or the hardware button...was on
[15:29] <TJ-> kasper:  do you have a 'phone with Bluetooth? If so, try pairing it with the PC and tell me if they can see each other.
[15:31] <TJ-> kasper: When I was working on this issue a couple weeks ago I found a bug in the hp_wmi kernel module and fixed it, then provided a package to install it for testing. We might need to try that for you, too.
[15:31] <kasper> TJ-, my iphone can see the elitebook
[15:31] <TJ-> kasper: Great :)
[15:32] <TJ-> kasper: OK, let's see what rfkill is reporting: "pastebinit <( rfkill list )"
[15:32] <kasper> TJ-, wait a minute joining on elite book to avoid typos
[15:33] <TJ-> kasper: OK
[15:34] <kasper> pastebinit <( rfkill list )
[15:34] <kasper_> TJ-, pastebinit <( rfkill list )
[15:35] <TJ-> kasper: you need to run that command in a terminal; give me the URL it returns :)
[15:37] <kasper_> TJ-, http://paste.ubuntu.com/12193208/
[15:37] <kasper_> sorry had to kick my cat scratching my chair :-(
[15:37] <kasper_> the other thing was still on the clipboard
[15:37] <TJ-> kasper: ooo interesting! notice the hard block for hp-wifi is now "no" !!
[15:37] <pants1> hi
[15:37] <Zythyr> Need help. I have a 32GB USB with only the first 14GB with a valid partition and data, the remaining is unallocated space. I want to make an image of the 14GB so I can clone it to another 16GB USB. There are 42 partitions, and the last partition ends on sector xyz. How can I use the DD command to copy only the first 14GB work of data and not the unallocated space.
[15:38] <TJ-> kasper: do "sudo rfkill unblock all" and then look at "rfkill list" again, see if phy0 shows "Hard blocked: no"
[15:38] <TJ-> Zythyr: are you recreating all 42 partitions on the destination?
[15:39] <Zythyr> TJ-: Yes, all 42 partitions
[15:39] <kasper_> 3: phy0: Wireless LAN
[15:39] <kasper_> 	Soft blocked: no
[15:39] <kasper_> 	Hard blocked: yes
[15:39] <TJ-> kasper: OK, give me a moment to refresh my memory on what I did last time on this
[15:39] <ObrienDave> 42 partitions??? o.O
[15:40] <kasper_> TJ-, thanks
[15:41] <TJ-> Zythyr: So the source device is using GPT, and you can duplicate the partition table using "sgdisk /dev/sd<SOURCE> --replicate=/dev/sd<DESTINATION>"
[15:41] <swadhin> Hello
[15:41] <MikeLa> hey group
[15:42] <MikeLa> what we dealing with today
[15:42] <Zythyr> TJ-: I want to use dd so I can create an image which later can be cloned in one shot
[15:42] <Marezz> Help, I cant unmute my volume
[15:43] <swadhin> I am facing an issue with my Ubuntu MATE installation on a new laptop
[15:43] <TJ-> Zythyr: After that, you could do ""for p in $(seq 1 42); do sudo dd if=/dev/sd<SOURCE>${p} of=/dev/sd<DESTINATION>${p} bs=100M; done"
[15:44] <kasper_> TJ-, this is interesting?
[15:44] <kasper_> Network:   Card-1: Intel Centrino Advanced-N 6200 driver: iwlwifi ver: in-tree: bus-ID: 43:00.0
[15:44] <kasper_>            IF: wlan0 state: down mac: <filter>
[15:44] <swadhin> I think WiFi is not working at it's full speed
[15:44] <kasper_> it's completely recognised
[15:44] <swadhin> How to fix the issue
[15:44] <kasper_> all this time i thought i had a driver issue
[15:44] <TJ-> kasper_: until the radio is enabled you won't get sensible results from the tools, although the device/interface is available
[15:45] <TJ-> kasper: download the bug-fix hp-wmi source code: "cd $HOME;  wget https://iam.tj/projects/misc/hp-wmi.dkms.tar.gz"
[15:46] <MonkeyDust> !wifi | swadhin start here
[15:46] <kasper_> TJ-, done
[15:48] <TJ-> kasper_: Now we extract the archive and put it into place: "sudo tar -C / -xzf hp-wmi-dkms.tar.gz"
[15:48] <linelevel1> Hi, I'm having a strange issue with wifi: I see all the available wireless networks, but when I try to connect to any of them (yes, I've tried several), it prompts me for the password, then fails to connect after I've typed the correct password. Any suggestions for how I can troubleshoot this?
[15:48] <Zythyr> TJ-: Is it possible to do it with DD? Because I want to copy the partition table also
[15:48] <TJ-> kasper_: check there's now source code with "ls -l /usr/src/hp-wmi-1.01/"
[15:48] <linelevel1> ^ It actually used to work, but then this problem started, and now it never does. I even tried putting a fresh copy of Ubuntu 15.04 on a bootable USB drive, and the same problem occurs when booted from the USB.
[15:48] <TJ-> Zythyr: I gave you the command to duplicate the partition table to begin with
[15:48] <kasper_> TJ-, kasper@EliteBook:~$ sudo tar -C / -xzf hp-wmi-dkms.tar.gz
[15:48] <kasper_> tar (child): hp-wmi-dkms.tar.gz: Cannot open: No such file or directory
[15:48] <kasper_> tar (child): Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[15:48] <kasper_> tar: Child returned status 2
[15:48] <kasper_> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[15:49] <swadhin> 02:00.0 Network controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8723BE PCIe Wireless Network Adapter
[15:49] <kk_drop> for ssl certificate, can be private.key stored as text or it need to be in any different format?
[15:49] <TJ-> kasper_: Ahhh.. maybe "sudo tar -C / -xzf $HOME/hp-wmi-dkms.tar.gz"
[15:49] <kasper_> TJ-, same result
[15:49] <TJ-> kk_drop: TLS/SSL usually uses certificates in X509 format
[15:50] <TJ-> kasper_: hmm.. check it's there: "ls -l $HOME/hp-wmi*"
[15:50] <kasper_> kasper@EliteBook:~$ ls -l $HOME/hp-wmi*
[15:50] <kasper_> -rw-rw-r-- 1 kasper kasper 7346 aug 19 01:14 /home/kasper/hp-wmi.dkms.tar.gz
[15:51] <TJ-> kasper: something weird going on :)
[15:51] <kasper_> uhm...yeah
[15:51] <kasper_> it's time for a beer :s
[15:51] <kasper_> my head hurts
[15:51] <kasper_> brb
[15:52] <kasper_> ok TJ-  any thoughts on a next step?
[15:52] <TJ-> kasper_:  "sudo tar -C / -xzf $HOME/hp-wmi-dkms.tar.gz"  works here; I can't see why you're getting an error
[15:53] <evon> Hello can anyone know of a linux-based date recovery program that preserves file names when it recovers files?
[15:53] <mokmeister> evon: dd?
[15:53] <TJ-> evon: filenames can only be recovered if the directory structures are intact
[15:54] <bishops> boys and girls I really need your help, I have folders in my trash folder that don't delete. Everytime I try the system freezes. I can't move them either. These folders were in my home folder and I'm not sure why, they appeared this morning there.
[15:56] <evon> mokmeister, Thanks, my understanding is that ddrescue only copies whole partitions and doesn't actually recover files like say photorec does.  I'm willing to be corrected though
[15:57] <TJ-> evon: correct; ddrescue recovers blocks
[15:57] <TJ-> evon: however, if those blocks include an intact directory chain, the filenames will be recovered
[15:57] <TJ-> kasper_ubuntu: any more progress with the 'tar' command?
[15:58] <kasper_ubuntu> TJ-, nope error after error
[15:58] <evon> TJ, I've never used DD so can you explain a little of the recovery process for me?
[15:58] <kasper_ubuntu> TJ-, what is a basic harmless tar command so i can try that?
[15:59] <TJ-> evon: 'ddrescue' is *not* 'dd' - see "apt-cache show gddrescue"
[16:00] <TJ-> kasper_ubuntu: try it as the regular user with sudo: "cd $HOME; tar -C /tmp -xzf $HOME/hp-wmi-dkms.tar.gz" then "ls -l /tmp/hp*" should show "hp-wmi.c"
[16:00] <evon> TJ, my apologies for the confusion.  What does DD stand for so I can look it up online?
[16:00] <mokmeister> evon: as TJ kust pointed out, dd and ddrescue are different
[16:01] <mokmeister> *just
[16:01] <mokmeister> dd is a copy / convert file command line tool
[16:01] <TJ-> evon: dd == 'data definition'
[16:02] <mokmeister> ddrescue is more of a recovery tool
[16:02] <TJ-> evon: dd will fail if there are any I/O errors. ddrescue will do its best to work around I/O errors and recover everything it can
[16:03] <bishops> HI all, I have folders in my trash folder that don't delete. Everytime I try the system freezes. I can't move them either. These folders were in my home folder and I'm not sure why, they appeared this morning there.
[16:04] <ioria> bishops, ls -al /home/<your_user>/.local/share/Trash/files ?
[16:04] <TJ-> evon: Example. a block device with a single sector I/O error 1/2 way through. 'dd' will fail at that point. 'ddrescue' will see the I/O error, then simply seek further into the device and try there. It will track the ranges it has failed on and keep working around them
[16:04] <evon> mokmeister, TJ, Maybe if I described the problem you could help me decide what to use.  I think it might just be a lost partition but for some reason, Windows cannot read the drive at all, while Linux cannot.  I also can't mount the partition in question although it is listed in Gparted. Photorec is able to recover the files but I want to preserve the file names (which photorec does not).
[16:05] <TJ-> evon: Are there any I/O errors reported for that device in "/var/log/kern.log" ?
[16:05] <kasper_ubuntu> TJ-,  ls: cannot access /tmp/hp*: No such file or directory
[16:05] <kasper_ubuntu> keep getting same sort of errors
[16:05] <TJ-> kasper_ubuntu: huh!?!?! ... that system is majorly messed up!!
[16:05] <kasper_ubuntu> it's a clean install...from last night
[16:06] <jak2000> my network card have a ip: 192.168.0.200/24  how to add other interface(alias) for listen too in the network: 192.168.1.200/24 thanks
[16:06] <kasper_ubuntu> haven't done anything to it other then tried to fix wifi
[16:06] <TJ-> kasper_ubuntu: when you used the 'tar' command just now did it silently return to the command-line without reporting any errors?
[16:06] <bishops> ioria: it says no such file or directory
[16:06] <kasper_ubuntu> no
[16:06] <MonkeyDust> kasper_ubuntu  did it xork with a cable connection? that needs no configuration
[16:06] <evon> TJ, mokmeister, I am also unclear on what an IO error is and how to determine if there is one.
[16:06] <MonkeyDust> work*
[16:07] <TJ-> kasper_ubuntu: ahhh... well if tar is failing then the 'ls /tmp/hp*' won't find any files
[16:07] <evon> TJ, I will have to check.  I'm not too sure.
[16:07] <TJ-> evon: the log file will report "I/O error"
[16:07] <kasper_ubuntu> TJ-, yeah it was the same error as before but tried anyway
[16:07] <kasper_ubuntu> figured it couldnt hurt...but it didnt work
[16:07] <TJ-> kasper_ubuntu: does "which tar" report "/bin/tar"
[16:07] <kasper_ubuntu> is there a way to recheck/reinstall/repair tar?
[16:08] <evon> TJ, is that log created even when I'm using a live distro? or does it depend on the distro?
[16:08] <ioria> bishops,  try to    cd  /home/<your_user>/.local/share/Trash/
[16:08] <kasper_ubuntu> TJ-, yes
[16:08] <TJ-> kasper_ubuntu: What version number does "tar --version" report (first line) ?
[16:08] <kasper_ubuntu> tar (GNU tar) 1.27.1
[16:08] <kasper_ubuntu> TJ-,
[16:09] <bishops> ioria: same answer
[16:09] <bishops> ioria: one sec
[16:10] <bishops> ioria: I can't tell you the names of the files in my trash if anything, but what do you need to know
[16:10] <TJ-> kasper_ubuntu: That is correct. what does "stat -c %s $HOME/hp-wmi-dkms.tar.gz" report?
[16:11] <MonkeyDust> TJ-  offtopic: what's your Linux background?
[16:12] <TJ-> MonkeyDust: how do you mean?
[16:12] <kasper_ubuntu> TJ-, stat: cannot stat ‘/home/kasper/hp-wmi-dkms.tar.gz’: No such file or directory
[16:12] <MonkeyDust> TJ-  you seem to know a lot
[16:12] <ioria> bishops,  you are in cd  /home/<your_user>/.local/share/Trash/  directory ?
[16:12] <bishops> ioria: yes
[16:12] <TJ-> kasper_ubuntu: Aha! now it makes sense. You don't have the downloaded file!!
[16:12] <kasper_ubuntu> what?! but i got it!
[16:12] <TJ-> kasper_ubuntu: "wget https://iam.tj/projects/misc/hp-wmi.dkms.tar.gz"
[16:13] <ioria> bishops,  do you see a folder 'files' ?
[16:13] <bishops> ioria: my god these folders are so weird, they are impossible to open!
[16:13] <TJ-> kasper_ubuntu: then check it is there with "ls -l hp-wmi*"
[16:13] <bishops> ioria: yes i'm in that folder. there are two very strange folders that one cannot open
[16:13] <kasper_ubuntu> TJ-, -rw-rw-r-- 1 kasper kasper 7346 aug 19 01:14 hp-wmi.dkms.tar.gz
[16:13] <kasper_ubuntu> -rw-rw-r-- 1 kasper kasper 7346 aug 19 01:14 hp-wmi.dkms.tar.gz.1
[16:13] <ioria> bishops,  paste ls -als
[16:13] <TJ-> MonkeyDust: I'm inquisitive
[16:13] <kasper_ubuntu> the first file name is red
[16:14] <kasper_ubuntu> the second is white
[16:14] <TJ-> Kasper_mac: ahhhh.... there's a DOT not a hyphen!!! my mistake :D
[16:14] <bishops> ioria: what's the command line to go back a folder
[16:14] <ioria> bishops,  cd ..
[16:14] <kasper_ubuntu> haha oeps...should have spotted that :-(
[16:14] <TJ-> kasper_ubuntu: OK ... " sudo tar -C / -xzf hp-wmi.dkms.tar.gz"
[16:15] <TJ-> kasper_ubuntu: then do "ls -l /usr/src/hp-wmi-1.01/" and ensure you see "hp-wmi.c"
[16:15] <bishops> ioria: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12193549/
[16:16] <kasper_ubuntu> TJ-, kasper@EliteBook:~$ ls -l /usr/src/hp-wmi-1.01/
[16:16] <kasper_ubuntu> total 40
[16:16] <kasper_ubuntu> -rw-rw-r-- 1 root   adm      416 aug 19 00:39 dkms.conf
[16:16] <kasper_ubuntu> -rw-rw-r-- 1 root   adm    26007 aug 19 01:11 hp-wmi.c
[16:16] <kasper_ubuntu> -rw-rw-r-- 1 kasper kasper   197 aug 19 00:41 Makefile
[16:16] <kasper_ubuntu> drwxrwxr-x 2 root   adm     4096 aug 19 00:32 patches
[16:16] <ioria> bishops,  they are big....
[16:16] <julian-delphiki> kasper_ubuntu: please dont paste like that here.
[16:16] <cfhowlett> !paste | kasper_ubuntu
[16:16] <delt> Hello
[16:16] <bishops> ioria: yes i don't know what they are!!!
[16:16] <julian-delphiki> hi delt
[16:16] <delt> trouble with NFS ... i can't disable NFSv4 :(
[16:16] <TJ-> MonkeyDust: I've also been programming hardware, low-level, kernel, and OS since the early 1980s
[16:16] <evon> TJ, mokmeister, Thank you for your help
[16:16] <bishops> ioria: but they are paralysing everything
[16:17] <kasper_ubuntu> lol
[16:17] <kasper_ubuntu> sorry
[16:17] <TJ-> kasper_ubuntu: OK ... you have to pastebin multiple lines, as you just found out :)
[16:17] <delt> even if both rpc.mountd AND rcp.nfsd receive --no-nfs-version 4" on the command line, the ubuntu box is still serving nfsv4
[16:17] <ioria> bishops,  we should know what they are first ....  but you can try rm -rif *  ... but wait a second ...
[16:17] <Johnny_Linux> rock on TJ- , we love you.
[16:17] <TJ-> kasper_ubuntu: looking correct though, so now let's get your system to build that kernel module!
[16:17] <kasper_ubuntu> TJ-, http://pastebin.com/TGjX6vF8
[16:18] <kasper_ubuntu> yes sorry apologies i got excited by the correct output :P
[16:18] <TJ-> kasper_ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install dkms"   then   "sudo dkms install -m hp-wmi -v 1.01"
[16:18] <ioria> bishops,  their names remember tmp folders ... but i don't know for what purpose ...
[16:19] <delt> even if both rpc.mountd AND rcp.nfsd receive --no-nfs-version 4" on the command line, the ubuntu box is still serving nfsv4
[16:19] <bishops> ioria: yes they look like temporary folders but what were they doing in My home folder anyway
[16:19] <kasper_ubuntu> TJ-, DKMS: install completed.
[16:19] <kasper_ubuntu> woohoo! thank you so much!
[16:20] <TJ-> kasper_ubuntu: Good. OK, now we unload the current module with "sudo modprobe -r hp_wmi"
[16:20] <kasper_ubuntu> not even sure if it worked yet...but this is amazing thanks man
[16:20] <TJ-> kasper_ubuntu: and then load the modified module with "sudo modprobe hp_wmi"
[16:20] <TJ-> kasper_ubuntu: now show us "pastebinit <( tail /var/log/kern.log )"
[16:20] <delt> and ps xau shows: root      4818  0.0  0.0      0     0 ?        S<   12:20   0:00 [nfsd4]
[16:21] <kasper_ubuntu> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12193573/
[16:21] <ioria> bishops,  they are 23 and 25 august ... not the same day ....
[16:21] <TJ-> kasper_ubuntu: wait one moment, I need to go back through the logs on this issue from 2 weeks ago... there's another module we have to load
[16:22] <bishops> ioria: yes i don't know why they say so because i sent them to trash today for sure
[16:22] <kasper_ubuntu> After this i am seriously considering getting rid of the win7 dual boot
[16:23] <ioria> bishops,  the system works normally ? have you rebooted ?
[16:23] <bishops> ioria: yes all works as long as i don't come close to the trash. if i try to open it, to delete or to move files, all hell breaks loose...
[16:24] <ioria> bishops,  try rm -rif t6tVuSgbkt
[16:24] <TJ-> kasper_ubuntu: "sudo modprobe hp-wireless"  then "pastebinit <( tail /var/log/kern.log )" again
[16:24] <bishops> ioria: while being the directory?
[16:24] <ioria> bishops,  in the files folder
[16:25] <kasper_ubuntu> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12193587/
[16:25] <no_gravity> Anybody familiar with PowerTop? It has this tab "tunables" where you can set settings from "bad" to "good". Is it a good idea to just set everything to "good"?
[16:25] <bishops> ioria: nothing is happening, terminal is thinking
[16:25] <ioria> bishops,  they are big ...
[16:25] <MonkeyDust> !find powertop
[16:25] <ruchacz> !s mr robot
[16:26] <TJ-> kasper_ubuntu: now try toggling the hardware wifi radio button, and after each press of that button do "rfkill list" and see if there is a change in the status
[16:26] <bishops> ioria: still thinking
[16:26] <TJ-> kasper_ubuntu: you're looking for the wifi Hard Block to show "no"
[16:26] <xangua> no_gravity: if what you want is better battery life, try tlp
[16:26] <no_gravity> xangua: what do you do with tlp?
[16:27] <bishops> ioria: now the whole system is slowing down
[16:27] <kasper_ubuntu> TJ-, same...it keeps saying yes
[16:27] <ioria> bishops,  how big is your hd ?
[16:27] <xangua> no_gravity: http://m.webupd8.org/2013/04/improve-power-usage-battery-life-in.html?m=1
[16:28] <TJ-> kasper_ubuntu: OK ... now we need to start hacking the BIOS ... are you game?
[16:28] <bishops> ioria: 250GB
[16:28] <kasper_ubuntu> TJ-, hell yeah
[16:28] <SCHAAP137> i had a similar issue with an old laptop a while ago... in the end fixed it by covering pin 19 on the mini PCIe WLAN adapter chip
[16:28] <kasper_ubuntu> let me get another beer open for mental encouragement
[16:29] <alexbucuresti> how cpu is necessary for a ftp server?
[16:29] <kasper_ubuntu> and let me get my daredevil costume^^
[16:29] <kasper_ubuntu> SCHAAP137, seriously?! i am not going to open this thing...i have a year warranty
[16:30] <kasper_ubuntu> i just hope that the warranty covers ubuntu :P
[16:30] <TJ-> kasper_ubuntu: :D This is pretty simple actually. I'm going to get you to capture to a file the Advanced Configuration and Power Interface (ACPI) Differentiated Services Descriptor Table (DSDT) which is pseudo-code provided by the BIOS, but which the kernel has to execute.
[16:30] <bishops> ioria: oh it worked!
[16:30] <kasper_ubuntu> TJ-, cool
[16:30] <ioria> bishops,  now the other same command
[16:31] <TJ-> kasper_ubuntu: Then I need you to upload that file so I can download it. Do you have somewhere to do that?
[16:31] <bishops> ioria: doing it..
[16:31] <Johnny_Linux> 2 cool
[16:31] <kasper_ubuntu> TJ-, just dont install anything to activate my webcam without the light burning so i see me and my mrs end up on pornhub in a week :D
[16:32] <kasper_ubuntu> TJ-, not yet...any suggestions? I use iCloud...but i don think it has guest acces
[16:32] <TJ-> kasper_ubuntu: you shouldn't reveal your fantasies on IRC you know :)
[16:33] <TJ-> kasper_ubuntu: this looks useful:  https://temp-share.com/
[16:33] <kasper_ubuntu> TJ-, the deparment of justice over here advised people to cover their webcam with tape because apparently there are virusses going around that do exactly what i just said
[16:33] <kasper_ubuntu> no fantasy man...real hard reality
[16:33] <TJ-> kasper_ubuntu: the command is "sudo cat /sys/firmware/acpi/tables/DSDT | dd of=/tmp/DSDT.bin" then upload "/tmp/DSDT.bin"
[16:34] <TJ-> kasper_ubuntu: usually the LED attached to the webcam cannot be controlled independently, so it tells when the camera is active.
[16:34] <alexbucuresti> what cpu,ram is neccesary for a ftp server?
[16:35] <kasper_ubuntu> TJ-, yes... but there is a virus that deactivates the LED
[16:35] <kasper_ubuntu> like there is anti theft software that deactivates the LED and takes a pic of the thief
[16:35] <kasper_ubuntu> so it can be done...no idea how...but it can be done apparently
[16:35] <TJ-> kasper_ubuntu: controlling the LED is *very* model and chipset specific. It would have to be a targeted attack
[16:35] <AEL-H> I have been interested in this idea for a while --, how exactly is the LED light linked to th webcamera -- are they totally seperate?
[16:36] <OerHeks> TJ- +1
[16:36] <TJ-> AEL-H: it's controlled by the camera chipset on a GPIO
[16:36] <OerHeks> lot of FUD, webcam light control
[16:36] <kasper_ubuntu> TJ-, maybe a bug in windows?
[16:37] <kasper_ubuntu> or some sort of exploit in common chipsets...so it wouldn work on all of them but just the most used ones
[16:37] <AEL-H> How would I go about trying to fiddle with it? -- I have a very basic grasp of computing&electronics
[16:37] <ObrienDave> not hardly, sheesh
[16:37] <kasper_ubuntu> kasper@EliteBook:~$ sudo cat /sys/firmware/acpi/tables/DSDT | dd of=/tmp/DSDT.bin
[16:37] <kasper_ubuntu> 258+1 records in
[16:37] <kasper_ubuntu> 258+1 records out
[16:37] <kasper_ubuntu> 132400 bytes (132 kB) copied, 0,0111678 s, 11,9 MB/s
[16:37] <bishops> ioria: trash clean thanks!
[16:37] <TJ-> There are hundreds of USb camera modules, and each could have any one of hundreds of chipsets, and each of those combinations can choose an arbitrary GPIO pin to control the LED.
[16:38] <bishops> ioria: I'll reboot my system just to see if all is good
[16:38] <ioria> bishops,  ok
[16:38] <kasper_ubuntu> TJ-, then it has to be an OS thing...i'll try and find the article
[16:38] <TJ-> kasper_ubuntu: upload it, and I'll decompile the binary to source-code here so I can be sure what it expects to enable control of the rfkill
[16:38] <kasper_ubuntu> TJ-, where do i find the file to upload?
[16:38] <piggy55> Having an issue with daemons not being able to access files.  i have a deamon running with user: proc1 that creates files in a directory that has the perms 660 proc1:shared.  the other daemon runs as user: proc2.  Both users are apart of the shared group but proc2 can access the files proc1 made
[16:38] <TJ-> kasper_ubuntu: "/tmp/DSDT.bin"
[16:39] <kasper_ubuntu> can i find that in the GUI TJ- ?
[16:39] <TJ-> Kasper_mac: sure, use the 'browse' button to get the File Open dialog, then navigate to the Root directory, and from there to /tmp/
[16:39] <AEL-H> Sorry, I know this not an ubuntu specific question -- I have been reading about wildcards here : http://linuxcommand.org/lc3_lts0050.php. So if I wanted to search for a file that had 3 lowercase letters I would have to do "[[:lower:]][[:lower:]][[:lower:]]". Surely there is something else I can do like "[[:lower:]] *3"?
[16:40] <TJ-> AEL-H: [["lower:]]{3}
[16:40] <TJ-> AEL-H: [[:lower:]]{3}   even
[16:40] <AEL-H> TJ-, thank you :)
[16:40] <TJ-> AEL-H: I am assuming you're using regular expressions of course. The shell doesn't have reg-exps
[16:41] <kasper_ubuntu> TJ-,  https://temp-share.com/f/cxfrwkljmc/f55c167a80b72a00a14304e4a316cd8538bc21c274a909f17871238ccf307cac
[16:41] <kasper_ubuntu> TJ-, sorry: https://temp-share.com/f/cxfrwkljmc
[16:41] <AEL-H> TJ- : Sorry, what do you mean by reg-exps ?
[16:41] <kasper_ubuntu> thatś the correct one
[16:42] <TJ-> kasper_ubuntu: I got it from the first link :)
[16:42] <TJ-> AEL-H: regular expressions
[16:45] <TJ-> kasper_ubuntu: although it will probably look like spaghetti to you, you can follow along with what I am doing here. I ran the command "iasl -d hp-elitebook-DSDT.bin" to disassemble that code, and the source is here http://paste.ubuntu.com/12193688/
[16:46] <no_gravity> Does Ubuntu not have an "your system is up to date" icon? Or will it only show up when there are updates available?
[16:46] <TJ-> kasper_ubuntu: I'm now reading that source to identify the methods (functions) that control the rfkill state, and looking at OSI specific controls such as "Windows 2009" that affect how that is used
[16:47] <Marezz> Im having screen tearing in Ubuntu 15.04, I use proprietary amd drivers
[16:47] <Marezz> its mostly when i scroll in firefox
[16:47] <kasper_ubuntu> TJ-, http://nos.nl/artikel/597896-justitie-plak-je-webcam-af.html in dutch...but throwing it in google translate will give you an idea of the fact that our country is run by dinosaurs
[16:47] <TJ-> kasper_ubuntu: if you scroll to line 380, method _INI, you'll see some conditional code that Store's a value based on the _OSI string
[16:48] <TJ-> kasper_ubuntu: if you look at the values Store-d, you'll see that the value stored for "Linux" is a much lower value than the value Store-d for "Windows 2009"
[16:49] <OerHeks> !fud | kasper_ubuntu
[16:49] <kasper_ubuntu> TJ-, yes i see
[16:50] <kasper_ubuntu> wow what?!
[16:50] <kasper_ubuntu> i am ridiculing it
[16:50] <kasper_ubuntu> i am not taking it serious and i am certainly not pasting it as a serious threat!
[16:52] <kasper_ubuntu> lol
[16:54] <kasper_ubuntu> TJ-, so you're changing the values to the same as for windows?
[16:55] <TJ-> kasper_ubuntu: I'm looking to correlate those values Store-d with the wireless radio state method. I'm still looking for the method since the names are arbitrary
[16:57] <Greek0> how is it determined what services are restarted when a package is upgraded? what program is responsible for that?
[16:58] <EriC^^> Greek0: i think it's in the post-install script of the package
[16:58] <Greek0> actual problem: installation of a custom php5-auth-something package (with an .so) triggers an apache reload, i want apache restart (so the .so is reloaded)
[16:58] <Greek0> EriC^^: I checked that first, the postinst only touched the /etc/cron.d/php5... file
[16:59] <Greek0> it doesn't actively restart anything. there's a more general mechanism going on
[16:59] <EriC^^> Greek0: did you check /var/lib/dpkg/info/php5-auth....postinst ?
[17:00] <Greek0> EriC^^: I dpkg-deb -e'd the package
[17:00] <EriC^^> Greek0: why do you want that? i mean can't you just restart it manually?
[17:02] <Greek0> EriC^^: last month's events: package was manually deployed to production server, apt-get printed a "reloading apache.... [OK]" line. operator though "cool, no need to restart again". The fixed library was not live in production
[17:02] <Greek0> debugged that now, it's pretty suble since you generally assume that the on-filesystem so is the same as the memory one.
[17:04] <EriC^^> oh
[17:07] <Kasper_mac> OK TJ- hold on pls...
[17:07] <Kasper_mac> TJ-, i just discovered that eth0 and wlan can't work together
[17:08] <Kasper_mac> so i unplugged ethernet and no i CAN switch wireless on...just no networks are showing...AND the blocked is gone in rfkill list
[17:08] <Bendr> Software center will never exist?
[17:08] <TJ-> kasper_ubuntu: really?! I've not seen laptops with that switchover system for over 10 years!
[17:09] <Kasper_mac> TJ-, i am so sorry to have wasting your time...i such an idiot
[17:09] <Kasper_mac> i am such a bloody idiot
[17:10] <Kasper_mac> somehow i got an appafinay and started googeling without using ubuntu and linux etc...
[17:10] <TJ-> Kasper_mac: not at all; that is a very obscure hardware config, and a terrible one too!
[17:10] <TJ-> Kasper_mac: I didn't see mention of that in the user guide earlier
[17:10] <Kasper_mac> the stupid thing is...when i plug in a cable windows keep showing i am connected to a wireless network
[17:11] <Kasper_mac> that's why i never thought of it
[17:11] <TJ-> Kasper_mac: right... I had been about to give you a kernel command-line option to try, since we may as well make the BIOS/ACPI think the OS is Windows and behave the same way it does for Windows.
[17:12] <Kasper_mac> TJ-, but i don't think windows is showing it right
[17:12] <mahbub> hello i am a new user i want to learn command line so which book should i follow?
[17:12] <Kasper_mac> i think the same happens in windows...it just can't handle it
[17:12] <TJ-> Kasper_mac: do you know how to get to the GRUB boot-manager menu at start-up? Holding down the Shift key when you see the BIOS Power On Self Test (POST) or splash screen, until the boot manager menu is displayed?
[17:13] <PanV> Hello. Sorry for my raging before with cursing and stuff. But now its urgent since I only got 7 percent battery. I deleted xorg for reasons.. to get prop drivers. How to get them back If I got amd radeon? << Urgent
[17:13] <Kasper_mac> TJ-, i tweaked my own grub with a windows tool...since it wasn't showing
[17:13] <PanV> apt-get install (What should i write here?)
[17:13] <OerHeks> Panhowto remove ati fglrx drivers > http://askubuntu.com/a/68312
[17:14] <PanV> oerherks, already done
[17:14] <TJ-> Kasper_mac: well, that may be because you have the UEFI firmware configured to do Fastboot for Windows (which is a fancy name for Windows Hibernate)
[17:14] <PanV> andleft with no drivers
[17:14] <PanV> Now ima at recovery mode
[17:14] <PanV> I just need to isntall xorg
[17:14] <Kasper_mac> TJ-, really?
[17:14] <mahbub> hey everyone whats up i want to learn command line so which book should i follow?
[17:14] <Kasper_mac> i didn't do that
[17:14] <TJ-> Kasper_mac: in Windows, you can disable that by using the power shutdown menu to choose full shutdown instead of fastboot
[17:14] <PanV> Please, I got 6%, ţ percent And device will close..
[17:14] <OerHeks> PanV, and did the steps after the install ?
[17:15] <Kasper_mac> TJ-, i never use hibernate
[17:15] <PanV> oerherks, i just want the apt-get install xorg thingy
[17:15] <OerHeks> PanV, plugin the adaptor, don't hurry us.
[17:15] <TJ-> Kasper_mac: is it Windows 8?
[17:15] <Kasper_mac> TJ-, i use either reboot or shutdown...
[17:15] <Kasper_mac> it's 7
[17:15] <PanV> Kk wait comin'
 oerherks, i just want the apt-get install xorg thingy " you need to do the steps after that too, is that so hard ?sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[17:16] <TJ-> Kasper_mac: Oh OK... then it may only be the BIOS Setup setting for Fastboot that needs disabling. When enabled it doesn't bother looking for alternate boot devices or showing the boot menu it just boots the default OS, which will be Windows.
[17:16] <mahbub> hey any one suggest me the best book of command line?
[17:17] <Kasper_mac> TJ-, it shows it now...but i can only get to ubuntu by pressing esc twice after getting an error
[17:18] <PanV> oerHerks, waht do I need to do? Sorry I am not patient or anything
[17:19] <PanV> Networking enabled, pressed root on recoveru
[17:19] <Kasper_mac> TJ-, thanks a lot man!
[17:19] <Kasper_mac> and again i am a bloody fool...i have worked on a second line helpdesk of an ISP for almost a year...this was such a bad trouble shoot :(
[17:19] <PanV> OerHerks, it wont let me do that command.
[17:20] <OerHeks> Panv just boot nornal, login with ctrl alt F2, and do those steps
[17:21] <TJ-> Kasper_mac: OK. if you can get to the GRUB menu, highlight the Ubuntu entry, press "E" to edit it. Now navigate to the line beginning "linux ..." move the cursor to the end of that line, and add: acpi_osi=! acpi_osi="windows 2009"   then press Ctrl+X or F10 to boot with that option. With luck the system will behave the same way as it does with Windows. If that does provide useful improvements those parameters can be added permanently to "/etc/default/grub" and its
[17:21] <TJ->  "GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX" setting, followed by "update-grub"
[17:21] <leandro> hi
[17:21] <PanV> OerHerks
[17:22] <PanV> I already mentioned, that when I do ctrl alt f2, it just showd a black screen for some reason..
[17:22] <PanV> *shows
[17:22] <OerHeks> Panwell, then i am stuck too
[17:24] <PanV> OerHerks.. all I need to know is apt-get install PacketName
[17:25] <PanV> Nothing else :3
[17:25] <PanV> By the way thanks for your help
[17:26] <C0r3> Why is sdvc package is unavailable?
[17:26] <TJ-> Kasper_mac: There is nothing in the User Guide about the WLAN/Ethernet being either-or
[17:27] <PanV> Guys, is gr.archive.ubuntu.com down or something?
[17:27] <C0r3> Is there some repository I'm missing?
[17:28] <Kasper_mac> TJ-, found it on an HP forum
[17:28] <TJ-> Kasper_mac: link?
[17:28]  * C0r3 is waiting!
[17:28] <Kasper_mac> a very old post...but never found it before because i assumed it was a driver or linux issue since it seemed to work in windows
[17:28] <Kasper_mac> hold on
[17:28] <TJ-> C0r3: what is sdvc?
[17:28]  * PanV is waiting too...
[17:29] <ioria> !info sdcv
[17:29] <TJ-> Kasper_mac: the one report I didn't collect from you, which would tell if the WLAN and Ethernet are mutually exclusive is "pastebinit <( lspci -nn )"
[17:30] <PanV> !info xserver-xorg-ati
[17:30] <PanV> sigh
[17:30] <PanV> What is the correct one then
[17:30] <C0r3> sdvc is an offline dictionary available at terminal.
[17:30] <ioria> C0r3, you mean a sdcv ?
[17:30] <mistawright> hi guys i have ubuntu on my xu4 and am trying to figure out what package would contain this binary armv7l-unknown-linux-gnueabihf-obj
[17:30] <PanV> !info xserver-xorg-video-ati
[17:30] <mistawright> ive got everthing else but that
[17:30] <C0r3> ioria: Is it sdcv?? or sdvc??
[17:30] <ioria> !info sdcv C0r3
[17:30] <ioria> !info sdcv | C0r3
[17:31] <C0r3> Opps!!!
[17:31] <C0r3> Sorry... My bad...
[17:31] <ioria> C0r3, no problem
[17:32] <C0r3> I've been searching for it all over and couldn't make out this simple mistake.
[17:32] <Kasper_mac> TJ-, I've seen the option in the BIOS...i just didn't think it was relevant because of how windows was behaving
[17:32] <PanV> BIOS =/= Windows
[17:32] <PanV> Windows = OS
[17:32] <PanV> ^ Captain Obvious
[17:32] <Kasper_mac> yes...windows was giving me a false positive
[17:33] <ObrienDave> say it isn't so! ;P
[17:33] <neredsenvy> hi
[17:33] <TJ-> Kasper_mac: check the output of the lspci command I gave you, if the Ethernet and WiFi devices are both listed they WILL work at the same time
[17:34] <kasper_ubuntu> http://h30434.www3.hp.com/t5/Wireless-Internet-Home-Networking/Elitebook-2540p-Enable-wifi-while-connected-to-ethernet/td-p/3589861
[17:34] <Kasper_mac> TJ-, i can simply switch it off in the BIOS :p
[17:34] <neredsenvy> I'm trying to install mysql-server-5.6 on u12 I keep getting start: Jon failed to start during installation with dpkg: error processing package mysql-server-5.6 (--configure) any ideas ?
[17:36] <MonkeyDust> neredsenvy  is that a server? if yes, there's also #ubuntu-server
[17:36] <ioria> neredsenvy, vivid or trusty ?
[17:37] <TJ-> Kasper_mac: if it is optional that is fine; however the dmesg logs you reported showed both devices available so it can't be correct that they are mutually exclusive: "e1000e: Intel(R) PRO/1000 Network Driver - 2.3.2-k"  and "iwlwifi 0000:43:00.0: Detected Intel(R) Centrino(R) Advanced-N 6200 AGN, REV=0x74"
[17:38] <Kasper_mac> TJ-, it is very weird i agree...i switched the option off now like in the thread i posted
[17:38] <Kasper_mac> however in ubuntu now i don't have a mouse cursor :D
[17:38] <TJ-> Kasper_mac: there is sometimes a power-saving feature whereby the Ethernet PHY can be turned off to save power when WiFi is enabled. Maybe that is the control you have in the BIOS, so it toggles the wifi radio and ethernet PHY
[17:38] <Kasper_mac> not with USB or built in pointing device
[17:38] <geothom230> hi guys i have problem with proftpd with connection with lampp
[17:39] <Kasper_mac> TJ-, i think that must be it...since this laptop was advertised as a business model with long lasting battery
[17:39] <TJ-> Kasper_mac: Can't help you with lost mouse cursor if you're using default Ubuntu with Unity; I use KDE
[17:39] <Kasper_mac> yes it's default...
[17:39] <Kasper_mac> that is so weird
[17:39] <TJ-> Kasper_mac: but you may find clues in /var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[17:39] <darkroom> okay so I want to wipe all my personal files and things I have downloaded over time but leave the base OS does anyone know of a way to do this?
[17:40] <MattTS> So I've tried to install Ubuntu 14.04 on my desktop along side Windows 10. Having lots of issues with GRUB2 and EFI. I got this from boot-repair on my second attempt http://paste.ubuntu.com/12193841/
[17:40] <FLeiXiuS> darkroom, Theres no real *easy* way to do it unless you fresh install.
[17:40] <Kasper_mac> TJ-,  i could see they were working simultaneously now...just not the mouse anymore
[17:40] <Kasper_mac> checking win blows now
[17:41] <TJ-> Kasper_mac: you'd best remove that custom hp_wmi DKMS module before we finish, now it is not needed
[17:41] <darkroom> FLeiXiuS: got a link for a tutorial for that? I have been having these conflicts between things I have cant seem to fix them and people on fourms say its not fixable so I just want a fresh start
[17:42] <FLeiXiuS> darkroom, A link for reinstalling Ubuntu?
[17:42] <darkroom> FLeiXiuS: yep
[17:42] <FLeiXiuS> darkroom, How'd you get ubuntu on there in the first place ;-)
[17:42] <Kasper_mac> TJ-, can you tell me how later? i am booting into windows to check the mouse...and got "installing update 1 of 3 billion"
[17:43] <FLeiXiuS> darkroom, Just download the ISO, put it in, install, voila
[17:43] <Kasper_mac> so that'll take a while
[17:43] <devth> i'm trying to use apt-offline to install packages on many machines (using ansible), so i need to avoid generating a machine-specific signature file. any ideas?
[17:43] <darkroom> FLeiXiuS: thanks :)
[17:43] <TJ-> Kasper_mac: it's easy: "sudo dkms remove hp-wmi/1.01 -all:
[17:44] <Kasper_mac> thanks!
[17:45] <Kasper_mac> TJ-, if you're ever having any issues with mac/iOS let me know :p
[17:45] <Kasper_mac> i owe you one man!
[17:45] <Kasper_mac> so cool
[17:45] <TJ-> Kasper_mac: glad you have it sorted
[17:46] <Kasper_mac> so am i...i will be a 30 year old 1st year bachelor law student... can't have a 10 year old laptop without wifi :D
[17:47] <MonkeyDust> other generation, other things are considerd 'normal'
[17:48] <jeroj> why is ubuntu better than debian?
[17:48] <bazhang> offtopic here jeroj
[17:48] <OmSai> Hi folks, I'm locked to using 14.04 Trusty for University security reasons, but I need OpenConnect 7 for our VPN.  I see that the package is available in Wily (https://launchpad.net/openconnect/+packages).  How do I go about install it without dist-upgrade?
[17:48] <darkroom> FLeiXiuS: I just download the ISO then put it on a flash drive correct
[17:49] <shamurai> bazhang: I suppose thats a matter of opinion but firmware/third party codecs would be a good reason.
[17:49] <bazhang> OmSai, distupgrade is not a version change
[17:49] <TJ-> OmSai: you might be able to install/use that package cleanly via either a chroot or a cgroups container (lxc), without causing package conflicts in the native 14.04 installation.
[17:49] <bazhang> shamurai, not an opinion, this is support only chat is not here
[17:49] <shamurai> I mean jeroj lol
[17:50] <OmSai> TJ-: ok I'll look into that.  Thanks
[17:50] <OmSai> bazhang: Ah, thanks for the correction.  I misspoke.
[17:50] <jeroj> shamurai right
[17:53] <anon_> best antivirus for linux
[17:53] <OerHeks> !info clamav
[17:53] <_Trullo> my nano is acting strange, when I press arrow right it replaces text
[17:55] <anon_> best game for linux
[17:56] <Pici> nethack or moon buggy
[17:59] <anon_> bast game is Action for linux
[18:00] <ObrienDave> *votes nethack*
[18:00] <skypce> hello all
[18:00] <skypce> i am trying to compile a custom kenrel
[18:00] <skypce> kernel
[18:00] <skypce> i have this error
[18:00] <skypce> install: target ‘/linux-4.1/debian/linux-image-4.1.6-zen-liquorix-20150825/usr/share/doc/linux-image-4.1.6-zen-liquorix-20150825/changelog.Debian’ is not a directory
[18:01] <MattTS> Best game is trying to get GRUB to work with EFI :D
[18:02] <TJ-> MattTS: Simple: "apt-get install grub-efi"
[18:03] <TJ-> skypce: is there a reason you need to build a kernel, rather than install a pre-packaged version?
[18:03] <skypce> TJ i am testing modprobed-db
[18:03] <skypce> so i love liquorix kernel, better performance
[18:04] <sentriz> Hi, I've got a cifs mount in /etc/fstab. It mounts with drwxr-xr-x, but I would like full write permissions. Here is the line: http://pastebin.com/x6QVFmRE - does anyone know how this is possible? I've also got "mount -a" in /etc/rc.local
[18:06] <MattTS> TJ-: Really doesn't seem that simple. GRUB just goes to prompt
[18:06] <TJ-> MattTS: "rescue >" or "grub:" ?
[18:07] <MattTS> It went to grub: originally, then I tried boot-repair from the USB media I created and then it started going to rescure
[18:07] <MattTS> *rescue
[18:08] <TJ-> MattTS: I don't trust bootrepair - when it messes up it tend to do it spectacularly!
[18:08] <TJ-> MattTS: at the 'rescue' prompt what does 'set' report, if anything, for "prefix" and "root"
[18:08] <MattTS> I noticed a /efi/ folder on my secondary SSD which is NTFS. That drive shouldn't have been touched
[18:09] <MattTS> under grub: it was reporting prefix as (hd3,gpt2)/boot/grub and root as (hd3,gpt2)
[18:09] <MattTS> under rescue I can't remember
[18:10] <TJ-> MattTS: When using UEFI, the firmware uses a *single* drive to store the EFI System Partition (ESP), which must be a FAT12/16/32 file-system and is usually between 256-512MiB. Within that file-system each bootloader+OS gets a directory under /EFI/
[18:11] <Mohey> cannot find resource script /root/.set/meta config
[18:11] <MattTS> There was /EFI/ stuff on sdb2 which is where I believe it should have been but also stuff on sda
[18:12] <MattTS> Trying to reinstall 14.04 now with sdb set as the boot drive
[18:12] <MattTS> Before I let it set its own thing
[18:12] <TJ-> MattTS: so, with a dualboot you'll see "/EFI/Windows/" and "/EFI/ubuntu/"
[18:13] <MattTS> Yeah, in the grub prefix dir there was /EFI/ubuntu and /EFI/Microsoft (as well as /EFI/Boot)
[18:14] <Mohey> "cannot find resource script /root/.set/meta config" anyone have a solution ?
[18:14] <TJ-> MattTS: if you have ESP's on both devices, the UEFI boot manager (in the motherboard firmware) should store the correct path to the bootloader (<DEVICE>/EFI/ubuntu/grubx64.efi) with the 'ubuntu' menu entry
[18:15] <MattTS> I saw 2 ubuntu entries in the motherboard boot manager, neither worked though
[18:15] <MattTS> Both went to grub prompt and then rescue
[18:15] <TJ-> MattTS: from an ubuntu UEFI boot (e.g. Live ISO) you can manually remove those using "efibootmgr"
[18:16] <TJ-> MattTS: then you can use 'grub-install' to reinstall including using efibootmgr to add a correct entry to the UEFI boot manager menu
[18:16] <sentriz> should I ask in #linux instead?
[18:17] <sentriz> join #linux
[18:17] <sentriz> oops
[18:17] <ioria> sentriz, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[18:17] <MattTS> Okay, finished the reinstall and get grub prompt rather than rescue again
[18:19] <MattTS> I'll load up the live disk and try the grub-install and efibootmgr
[18:19] <EriC^^> you have to chroot first
[18:20] <TJ-> MattTS: We can get you in from the grub prompt if you want to
[18:20] <EriC^^> that sounds like a good idea ^
[18:21] <MattTS> TJ-: If you can, that'd be great. I tried a few things without any luck before but I didn't really know what I was doing
[18:21] <TJ-> The advantage of using the GRUB shell is we can see exactly what is wrong
[18:22] <TJ-> MattTS: OK, let's start with checking the values of 'root' and 'prefix' - type "set" and tell us what they are
[18:22] <MattTS> prefix = (hd3,gpt2)/boot/grub
[18:22] <MattTS> and root = hd3,gpt2
[18:22] <TJ-> MattTS: OK, I think I see the issue already - hd3 ... how many drives are connected?
[18:23] <MattTS> There's 3 internal drives and a USB external drive + USB stick
[18:23] <MattTS> so 5
[18:23] <TJ-> MattTS: This is going to get interesting... prepare for a learning curve :)
[18:23] <MattTS> (ssd, ssd and hdd)
[18:24] <TJ-> MattTS: use the "ls" (LiSt) command to get a list of the available devices and partitions... if you can bear it, please copy that info here because it is vital for us to know what GRUB is seeing
[18:24] <MattTS> (SSD1 is storage, SSD2 is where Windows is and HDD is storage + where ubuntu is)
[18:25] <Guest64444> Error when getting information for file '/home/ in calibre with xfce desktop
[18:25] <MattTS> http://pastebin.com/Ep5sFemd
[18:26] <TJ-> MattTS: great. Now, let's find out what is in hd3,gpt2: "ls (hd3,gpt2)/"
[18:27] <MattTS> That's where the efi stuff is:
[18:27] <MattTS> efi/ boosted.bak boot-sav/
[18:27] <MattTS> err bootsect.bak
[18:27] <TJ-> MattTS: do you see a grub/ directory there?
[18:28] <MattTS> no
[18:28] <MattTS> there's /efi/ubuntu/ where grub.cfg is
[18:28] <jeffreylevesque> how can i check if an event is emitted. one maybe defined from a upstart script?
[18:28] <TJ-> MattTS: if you do "ls (hd3,gpt2)/efi" do you see "windows" and "ubuntu" directories, or nothing at all?
[18:29] <MattTS> I see Microsoft, Boot and ubuntu
[18:29] <TJ-> MattTS: OK, so the problem is gpt2 is the EFI SP, but it should be the file-system containing the OS's /boot/grub/
[18:29] <Blowbalt> I don't know why I just disconnected randomly, but anyway...
[18:30] <TJ-> MattTS: So now you search for that using "ls (hd3, gptX)/" replacing X with 1-5
[18:30] <Blowbalt> Has anyone else experienced random crashes in unity in 15.04? I have an HP laptop (dm1) and X occasionally just quits out to a blank terminal login screen
[18:30] <TJ-> MattTS: if Ubuntu was installed with a separate file-system for /boot/ you'll see a grub/ directory.
[18:30] <Jordan_U> TJ-: You can also find any GNU/Linux root filesystem with "search --file /etc/fstab".
[18:30] <Blowbalt> it almost always happens when I'm switching desktops or launching a terminal
[18:31] <TJ-> Jordan_U: good point... I'm too used to do everything myself :)
[18:31] <Blowbalt> .xsession-errors shows a lot of "Respawning too fast" messages, but i'm not sure whether they're connected or not
[18:32] <MattTS> TJ-: gpt1,3,4,5 are all unknown filesystems for grub
[18:32] <MattTS> only 2 is FAT
[18:32] <MattTS> but no /grub
[18:32] <MattTS> or /boot
[18:32] <TJ-> MattTS: so as Jordan_U points out you can also do "search --file normal.mod"
[18:33] <TJ-> MattTS: that is interesting. Do you know which file-system types you used when Ubuntu was installed. The default is ext3 or ext4, which grub should have built-in to its grubx64.efi
[18:33] <Jordan_U> TJ-: No, you need an absolute path and we want to find the root fs (which is also the filesystem containing /boot/ in MattTS' case).
[18:33] <sm56>  hi all, can  can some1 help me troubleshooting my motorola sm56 ? thx
[18:33] <Jordan_U> MattTS: Please run "search --file /etc/fstab".
[18:33] <TJ-> Jordan_U: I thought search would recurse?
[18:34] <Jordan_U> TJ-: No, it just iterates through every device.
[18:34] <MattTS> Hmm, just get errors
[18:34] <MattTS> no such device /etc/fstab
[18:34] <EriC^^> MattTS: try ls (hd0,msdos1)/
[18:34] <agent_white> Moin
[18:34] <TJ-> I think the issue here is the grub core.img (grubx64.efi) doesn't have the file-system driver built in for some reason
[18:34] <TJ-> based on "MattTS> TJ-: gpt1,3,4,5 are all unknown filesystems for grub"
[18:35] <MattTS> hd0,mdse.1 seems to have boot casper, install, isolinux and stuff
[18:35] <TJ-> MattTS: do you know if this is a SecureBoot?
[18:35] <ioria>  usb
[18:35] <TJ-> ^^^ that's the Live ISO
[18:36] <EriC^^> MattTS: try ls (hd1,msdos1)/
[18:36] <Jordan_U> MattTS: Please run "insmod ext2", it should run with no output.
[18:36] <MattTS> done that
[18:36] <mammar-l> salut à  tous bonsoir
[18:36] <TJ-> Jordan_U: that won't work... grub has no root file-system
[18:36] <Guest17055> bns
[18:36] <Guest17055> çv ?
[18:37] <MattTS> (hd1,msdos1)/ unknown filesystem
[18:37] <Jordan_U> TJ-: If it returns without error then we know that ext2.mode is already loaded, as insmod won't try to re-load an already loaded module.
[18:37] <mammar-l> salut spec chum
[18:38] <Guest17055> peut tu parle an Anglais ?
[18:38] <Jordan_U> !fr | Guest17055
[18:38] <EriC^^> MattTS: i'd boot the live usb
[18:38] <Guest17055> i do speak in English :')
[18:38] <EriC^^> or not
[18:38] <mammar-l> non seul le français
[18:38] <Guest17055> thanks for the info
[18:38] <EriC^^> (wait for TJ- )
[18:39] <Guest17055> was just tryin to help
[18:39] <TJ-> EriC^^: we need to know why it is failing first; MattTS has tried reinstalling a few times
[18:39] <TJ-> EriC^^: We've now got a pointer.
[18:39] <TJ-> MattTS: give me a moment whilst I check something in a virtual machine
[18:39] <MattTS> after first install I did boot-repair and got http://paste2.org/v2yGEZI6 and second time I did it I got http://paste.ubuntu.com/12193841/
[18:39] <mammar-l> je reviendrais dans un instant
[18:40] <MattTS> I was excited earlier when I found (hd0,msdos1) and thought I'd found grub etc
[18:40] <Guest17055> just English sir :')
[18:40] <teward> mammar-l: french?
[18:40] <TJ-> MattTS: do "lsmod" and tell us what you see, if there isn't too much output
[18:41] <MattTS> it's scrolled off screen
[18:41] <MattTS> Any way to go up?
[18:41] <TJ-> MattTS: "set pager=1" then do it again
[18:41] <MattTS> thanks
[18:41] <TJ-> MattTS:  we only need the module names from the left column
[18:42] <MattTS> Oh, that'll save a bit of time
[18:43] <p4trix> In order to add /test/bin to my $PATH do I have to put export PATH=$PATH... in my .bashrc file? Or is there no need for that?
[18:43] <TJ-> MattTS: from your bootrepair info, sdc5 has /boot/grub/grub.cfg ... we need to find that device
[18:43] <p4trix> It gets deleted everytime I restart(not the .bashrc file)
[18:44] <neredsenvy> Can someone please help me with this MySQL problem https://gist.github.com/anonymous/8ec8e57d28e50ad87bfc
[18:44] <TJ-> MattTS: sdb2 has the EFI files, so it is not hd3 we want here
[18:44] <TJ-> MattTS:  those unknown file-systems on sdb are NTFS
[18:46] <TJ-> MattTS according to bootrepair sdc has partitions 1,2,5,6 ... but your original grub 'ls' report didn't show a device with that combination of partitions
[18:46] <no_gravity> Is there a way to use the "middle click to paste" on a laptop that has no middle button and tapping is disabled on the touchpad?
[18:46] <MattTS> http://pastebin.com/mbJDnJvC asmod, finally
[18:46] <MattTS> lsmod
[18:46] <TJ-> MattTS: also, sdc uses an MBR partition table, not GPT
[18:47] <Guest17055> hi
[18:47] <Guest17055> adobe flash uaf
[18:47] <ioria> MattTS, as last resort you can ls (hdX,X)/  all, to find /boot/grub
[18:47] <Guest17055> stuck at sending uaf
[18:47] <Guest17055> any ideas N
[18:47] <EriC^^> something isn't right
[18:47] <MattTS> So there's an issue with some drives being mbr and some being gpt
[18:47] <TJ-> MattTS: well done! that took some typing
[18:48] <TJ-> MattTS: the main issue is, the device with Linux on is not being seen by GRUB!
[18:48] <TJ-> MattTS: is that drive on a some other disk controller that UEFI has no driver for?
[18:48] <MattTS> I believe the Linux drive is on a different SATA controller
[18:48] <TJ-> MattTS: aha! now we're getting somewhere
[18:49] <Guest17055> hardware issue o.O
[18:49] <Jordan_U> MattTS: TJ-: Which means that your boot firmware doesn't support that SATA controller (or at least doesn't support using two controllers at once).
[18:49] <TJ-> MattTS: it is possible that drive cannot be used for the bootloader, *if* the UEFI has no driver for it
[18:49] <EriC^^> he did mention "(hd4) error: failure reading sector 0xfc from 'hd4'" earlier
[18:49] <EriC^^> in case that helps
[18:49] <TJ-> EriC^^: Yes, that's where I think the missing partitions are
[18:50] <TJ-> MattTS: try "lspci"
[18:50] <MattTS> can't find the command
[18:50] <MattTS> in grub
[18:51] <TJ-> MattTS: ok, you'd need the grub root device available so it could insmod that command
[18:51] <TJ-> MattTS: I was hoping we'd see an 'unknown device' reported, which would likely be the offending controller
[18:51] <Guest17055> guys can i access the root account on vivid vervet ?!
[18:51] <teward> !root | Guest17055
[18:52] <TJ-> MattTS: there is one thing we haven't tried. Try "nativedisk" then "ls" again
[18:52] <MattTS> Hmm, I can check the firmware options for the SATA controller
[18:52] <MattTS> can't find nativedisk
[18:52] <Guest17055> wow that was fast! thanks
[18:52] <TJ-> MattTS: Grrr, another module that isn't included in the core image, grrr!
[18:53] <ioria> grub shell has nothing
[18:54] <TJ-> ioria: it depends on what is built-in to the core. I configure GRUB to always include useful debug modules
[18:54] <anonchaos> hello ive been trying to figure out how to use rhash and no luck im shelled in a directory and i want to has all files in that directory like i did with csv but i cant figure it out
[18:54] <TJ-> MattTS: reboot, use Live ISO, "Try  Ubuntu"
[18:55] <MattTS> odd, I typed exit and it started to boot windows. Before it went back to Firmware bootmanager
[18:55] <TJ-> MattTS: the FW boot manager just started the Windows entry quickly
[18:56] <MattTS> In the firmware settings now
[18:56] <TJ-> MattTS: the UEFI boot manager has a configuration option BootOrder which controls the boot sequence
[18:56] <MattTS> Now that I not I think the 1TB internal drive isn't listed there
[18:56] <MattTS> *notice
[18:57] <TJ-> MattTS: that confirms the issue
[18:57] <h4x0r> long convo for grub issue i must admit
[18:57] <TJ-> MattTS: you'll need a separate partition of about 512MiB on one of the drives the FW can see, for the /boot/ mountpoint
[18:58] <MattTS> I have the OPROM for the Marvell storage controller disabled and enabled for the JMB storage controller
[18:58] <TJ-> MattTS: is the missing drive on the Marvell controller? if so, enable the Option ROM
[18:58] <MattTS> TJ-: possibly, trying it now
[18:59] <MattTS> Okay, done that and get an extra screen at boot and the 1TB internal drive is listed now
[19:00] <TJ-> MattTS: I believe GRUB will find its root now
[19:00] <MattTS> I've had this machine 4+ years now, I obviously decided I didn't want the extra screen at boot so I disabled the OPROM without thinking of the repercussions
[19:01] <TJ-> MattTS: optimisations always bites you this way :)
[19:01] <MattTS> So, just try and boot into GRUB?
[19:01] <Lope> How can I install Ubuntu on a laptop with Full disk encryption?
[19:02] <Lope> Does the Ubuntu installer have an option for it?
[19:02] <MonkeyDust> Lope  the installer asks for home encryption, not sure about 'full' encryption, tho
[19:02] <EriC^^> Lope: no, you can move /boot into the encrypted partition and adjust grub after installing
[19:02] <MattTS>  Yeah, booted into GRUB and can select Windows or Ubuntu now
[19:03] <ObrienDave> Lope, why would you want to do something so risky?
[19:03] <ObrienDave> encrypt a directory, put sensitive things there
[19:04] <blackm4mb4> like porn.?
[19:04] <blackm4mb4> lol
[19:04] <ObrienDave> !behelpful | black
[19:04] <ioria> MattTS, you can select  both ?
[19:04] <MattTS> Thanks a lot guys. It seems so obvious now
[19:04] <MattTS> ioria: Yes, thanks. Just booted to ubuntu login
[19:05] <MattTS> Not tested Windows yet but it worked fine before
[19:05] <ioria> MattTS, make some test... shutdown, reboot ... just to be sure
[19:05] <MattTS> Testing that now
[19:06] <ObrienDave> Lope, if you encrypt the entire drive and ONE bit gets corrupted, you LOSE the contents of the ENTIRE drive
[19:07] <MattTS> Windows seems to be booting fine
[19:07] <MattTS> Rebooted once before and got distracted and it booted to Ubuntu again
[19:09] <ioria> MattTS, do you have an adapter card ?
[19:10] <MattTS> Nah, just motherboard (with 2 SATA controllers)
[19:11] <ioria> MattTS, ok
[19:11] <brainwash> Lope: since 14.04 the installer should offer a checkbox for FDE
[19:11] <MattTS> Now have the fun task of setting up the OS appearance, settings, all the libs I need etc :)
[19:11] <ObrienDave> \o/
[19:12] <ioria> MattTS, have fun, then
[19:12] <MattTS> Thank you :)
[19:12] <MattTS> and thanks again to everyone who helped
[19:12] <ioria> MattTS, np
[19:23] <edufmass> Hello, I've installed xubuntu 15.04 and xrdp, I connect from win pc. I run ifconfig in a terminal and I get error (bin or sbin is not in path, i don't remember very well). Is there a way to make a remote conection and work like the physical connection (all permissions, etc)? (I know #xubuntu but is quiet)
[19:24] <ioria> try with /sbin/ifconfig
[19:29] <edufmass> ioria that works
[19:30] <ioria> edufmass, ok ...
[19:32] <CarlFK> my c-a-t to open a terminal stopped working.  PrtSc stopped doing print screens too.  super key still brings up the expected search thing
[19:32] <CarlFK> where are those keys defined?
[19:34] <ioria> CarlFK,  you could search in System Settings -> Keyboard -> Shortcuts
[19:36] <CarlFK> ioria: thanks.
[19:36] <ioria> CarlFK,  np
[19:36] <that_feel> hi
[19:39] <CarlFK> I see "Launch Terminal ... Ctrl+Alt+T" and yet that doesn't do anything.
[19:40] <Inoki> Hey guys, any BQ E5 owner here?
[19:40] <OerHeks> Inoki, in #ubuntu-touch are many users, also dedicated support there
[19:40] <Inoki> OerHeks: thank you!
[19:41] <OerHeks> have fun
[19:41] <blackm4mb4> OhnerKs?
[19:42] <blackm4mb4> mind teh alcohol *sips* rum
[19:43] <ioria> CarlFK,  you can change it ... press the line with you mouse, and in the same time press ctrl+a for example
[19:44] <CarlFK> ioria: I am more interested in making the current setting work.
[19:45] <applepi> Hello all.  Where would I check / configure how often dhclient tries to obtain an IP address?
[19:46] <applepi> I have a device which, if eth0 (in allow-hotplug) fails to obtain an address, seems to consistently pick one up after about 20 minutes.
[19:47] <blackm4mb4> how would you imnjot rerally sure
[19:47] <ioria> CarlFK,  ctrl-alt-tab it's not working neither for me .... so i changed
[19:48] <CarlFK> ioria: what does ctrl-alt-tab do?
[19:48] <CarlFK> ioria: looks the same as alt-tab ?
[19:49] <ioria> CarlFK,  it should open a term ... but it change windows
[19:49] <ioria> *s
[19:49] <CarlFK> ioria: umm. T is for T, tab is for tab.
[19:49] <CarlFK> ctrl-alt-t should open a term
[19:50] <ioria> CarlFK, so i changed in ctrl+alt T
[19:50] <ioria> CarlFK, try ctrl-alt-T (t letter)
[19:50] <CarlFK> ioria:  ctrl+alt T is the default, and what mine is set to, and used to work, now it does not.
[19:51] <ioria> CarlFK, try to set it again
[19:53] <CarlFK> ioria: well this is encouraging - I moved the highlight, hit it and got a dialog: The shortcut "Shift+Ctrl+T" is already used for
[19:53] <CarlFK> "Launch terminal" lol.  but if I select another window, "Shift+Ctrl+T"  still doesn't do anything.
[19:54] <ioria> CarlFK, select a window ? press the line and ctrl+alt+t
[19:54] <CarlFK> ioria: What do you mean by:  press the line?
[19:55] <ioria> CarlFK, it's written below ... 'click the row'
[19:55] <ioria> CarlFK, and hold down the new keys
[19:56] <ioria> CarlFK, in the same time
[19:58] <CarlFK> ioria: I have tried clearing it and re-singing it. no luck.  and going forward, I want to find out why it currently isn't working.
[19:58] <ioria> CarlFK, ok ... you can always use the superkey and type terminal
[20:01] <Guest30361> hi every one
[20:05] <Guest30361> peace for you
[20:12] <arun_> pydelhi
[20:13] <diphtherial> hey, i'm attempting to format and partition a drive that's ~1TB, but for some reason fdisk sees it as just being ~200GB
[20:13] <burrito_> filezilla just upped and stopped working
[20:13] <diphtherial> (i'm using the server edition of ubuntu 14.04, fwiw)
[20:13] <diphtherial> any idea how i can reconfigure the drive to be the full 1TB?
[20:13] <diphtherial> is there a special partition type i need to use?
[20:14] <insominia> hello friends !!!
[20:14] <EriC^^> diphtherial: try sudo parted -l , how big does it say it is?
[20:15] <diphtherial> EriC^^: 'Error: unrecognized disk label'
[20:15] <diphtherial> here's the output from fdisk, by the way: https://dpaste.de/HLCJ
[20:16] <diphtherial> for some background, it's a volume that i provisioned on this cloud service my university uses. it seems that the volumes come unformatted by default, without so much as a partition table
[20:16] <diphtherial> maybe DOS partition tables can't handle volumes larger than 2GB?
[20:16] <plytro> owncloud?
[20:16] <EriC^^> msdos limit for partitions is 2tb
[20:17] <diphtherial> well, it's called redcloud; i'm not sure what software they're using
[20:17] <insominia> i'm asking about the darknet
[20:17] <ihc> hi all
[20:17] <aeden__D_> insominia: the lights are bright here. Do a web search on dark net
[20:18] <insominia> what u mean ?
[20:18] <ihc> anybody outhere
[20:18] <diphtherial> it's possible that i fumbled the volume creation...let me check, could actually be 214 GB :P
[20:18] <diphtherial> ihc: hello
[20:19] <insominia> aeden__D_: what u mean ?
[20:20] <aeden__D_> insominia: what are you wanting to know about the darknet and how does that relate to ubuntu?
[20:21] <pch> /
[20:21] <Guest55773> hey guys
[20:21] <Guest55773> hey nerds
[20:21] <Guest55773> lol
[20:22] <insominia> aeden__D_: its a safe to use ubuntu to join throught it to dark net ?
[20:22]  * tgm4883 points finger guns at Guest55773
[20:22] <Guest55773> use tails
[20:22] <diphtherial> well, the cloud management site reports that the volume should be 1000GB
[20:22] <Guest55773> dont shoot me :))
[20:22] <diphtherial> can't figure out why every time i try to create a DOS partition table on the thing it reports only 214GB
[20:22] <diphtherial> (i apologize for this not being strictly an ubuntu issue)
[20:24] <tgm4883> diphtherial: did you pastebin the command output requested earlier
[20:24] <diphtherial> tgm4883: you're referring to the parted output? i mentioned what it was, but sure, i'll paste it as well
[20:25] <diphtherial> https://dpaste.de/xwVd
[20:25] <Guest55773>  anyone succeed in installing pidgin on kali ?
[20:25] <diphtherial> this is after using fdisk to write a DOS partition table, fwiw
[20:25] <diphtherial> i didn't see an option in fdisk to return it to its virginal state
[20:25] <MonkeyDust> Guest55773  ask in a kali channel, it's ot supported here
[20:25] <Guest55773> ok sorry
[20:25] <MonkeyDust> not*
[20:26] <tgm4883> diphtherial: you can delete teh partition in fdisk then write that to disk
[20:26] <brainwash> !kali
[20:26] <x86iac> the only channel not dead on freenode?
[20:27] <EriC^^> diphtherial: the error is for vdc, vdb shows up as 215gb in fdisk and parted
[20:27] <MonkeyDust> x86iac  this is the ubuntu support channel
[20:28] <x86iac> yea that is what it is and my statement applies
[20:34] <diphtherial> EriC^^: sorry, this is the output after having created a partition table for vdb
[20:35] <diphtherial> i'm just going to go with the 214GB size for now, i guess, until i figure it out. it's fine for what i'm doing at the moment
[20:35] <diphtherial> thanks for the help
[20:35] <diphtherial> maybe i'll give it another shot later tonight
[20:36] <EriC^^> diphtherial: ok, np, try contacting the cloud support
[20:36] <diphtherial> that's a good idea; they're pretty responsive, although i hate to bother them over something i could conceivably do myself (well, with help, obviously)
[20:36] <diphtherial> anyhow, thanks again
[20:36] <pavlos> running mate on raspberry pi ... system monitor shows 4 cores plus 1 ... http://imgur.com/Latxt2g
[20:37] <MonkeyDust> pavlos  better ask in #raspberrypi
[20:38] <pavlos> I came from that channel
[20:39] <Techspectre> Is there a way to do memtest86 from within Ubuntu?
[20:40] <x86iac> use a ubuntu livecd with it on it?
[20:41] <Techspectre> I kind of don't even want to restart my machine because it refuses to boot 99% of the time
[20:46] <insominia> zaki win rak
[20:47] <mistawright> how can i use "file" to recursively check through files and folders?
[20:48] <friendofkiwi> chanserv
[20:49] <x86iac> Techspectre: time to get a new machine?
[20:50] <CarlFK> Techspectre: yes, maybe with kexec, but that wont help.  memtest will wipe out everything in memory, including the OS, so when it is done you would need to reboot.
[20:51] <CarlFK> mistawright: find ... -exec file {} \;
[20:51] <pavlos> mistawright, could tree /usr/bin/ -s help?
[20:51] <sensae> I have a Wyse W-65 terminal attached to my Ubuntu server, and there's no alt key on the keyboard. Is there some alternative way I can send alt commands to my running programs?
[20:54] <hoha> Hey anyone there to help?
[20:55] <CarlFK> mistawright: find ./ -type f -exec file {} \;
[20:56] <CarlFK> !ask hoha (hope this works)
[20:56] <Pici> 0/70
[20:56] <CarlFK> lol
[20:56] <hoha> So I screwed my gnome and now my ubuntu boots to a blinking black screen with errors
[20:56] <CarlFK> hoha yes - typically just ask and hope for the best.
[20:56] <hoha> Should I just reinstall? or is their any fix?
[20:57] <MattTS> I installed Nvidia binary drivers then tried to install CUDA and couldn't log in. Purged Nvidia and trying to reinstall the drivers now
[21:01] <mistralol> dont suppose anyone knows how to stop automake installing a spceific program with make install but still builds it in the source tree?
[21:04] <TJ-> mistralol: that will depend on the Makefile install targetes
[21:10] <mistralol> TJ-: yeah I have a bin_PROGRAMS in an example directory and I don't want them to be installed with the lib when make install is done
[21:11] <suyash> hi there
[21:11] <TJ-> mistralol: unless the Makefile has overrides to make that possible, or you only call the install libs target, you'd have to hack the Makefile
[21:12] <mistralol> TJ-: ahhh so i found something that automake doesnt support :D
[21:12] <TJ-> mistralol: automake can only do what its template file is written to do
[21:14] <mistralol> TJ-: yeah i am new with automake ;/
[21:14] <Abe> hello, A school donated me 3 old computers I think I take them to recycling before they land on the dump... Is there any use for old Pc hardware like the HDD's Motherboards or Power supply?
[21:14] <mgolisch> how old are they?
[21:15] <suyash> i was installing ubuntu 14.04 lts and during installation i installed it on external drive connected to my laptop, for the boot loader i selected external drive but it installed on internal hardrive. and now it ubuntu option shows up in boot menu even if i dont have my external hdd connected. is there any way to remove ubuntu from boot menu list
[21:15] <Abe> I dont know very old probably 10 years they have like pentium 4 with 512 MB ram on it
[21:15] <compdoc> Abe, depends on their age, but ppl usually give away computers when they are too slow to be useful
[21:16] <TJ-> Abe pentium 4's can be quite useful; it depends on what you might want to do with them
[21:16] <Abe> Nobody would want to use them their is still Windows XP Pentium 4 on it... I didn't turn them on though
[21:17] <AEL-H> I did command "grep -ir 'mysearch' * > mytext.txt"
[21:17] <AEL-H> I understand this command will take a while as it will check the whole drive -- however is there a way I can check its progress? Or that I can be sure it has not hit a wall. The command has taken alot longer than expected
[21:17] <Abe> compdoc: CD drive's Floppy drive's Hard drives are plenty in there... I dont actually have a use for them besides recycle them
[21:18] <Abe> maybe I could use the old HDD's for something?
[21:18] <TJ-> AEL-H: which directory did you start grep from?
[21:18] <tahr301791> Hi, how can I boot ubuntu live usb on a password-protected bios ?
[21:18] <compdoc> Abe, check the drive's SMART info to see if they are any good or not, but old hard drives are slow
[21:19] <Abe> that doesn't matter I still could store data on them.. or using it for a Raid system Idk?
[21:19] <suyash> is there any possible way to remove ubuntu listing from efi boot menu
[21:19] <suyash> ??
[21:19] <TJ-> Abe: if there are any 5 1/4 inch floppy drives, they can be quite valuable for people needing to rescue data from old back-up media
[21:19] <TJ-> suyash: yes, with 'efibootmgr'
[21:20] <Abe> TJ-: who is still using floppy drives?
[21:20] <suyash> TJ: i tried efibootmgr but it still appears in boot menu
[21:20] <AEL-H> TJ- : I mounted an external drive (about 600GB) to a mountpoint /mountpoint/, this is the directory from which I used grep. So it should be checking around 600 gigs
[21:20] <TJ-> Abe: forensics, data retrieval specialists
[21:21] <suyash> TJ: i couldnt find efi/ubuntu to remove it
[21:21] <AEL-H> TF- : It has been running around 9 hours...
[21:21] <TJ-> AEL-H: ouch! well, you can use 'top' to check if the grep process is actually still working, or 'iotop' to check the I/O read rate
[21:22] <TJ-> suyash: you'd need to ensure the PC boots in UEFI mode in order for the EFI file system and variables to be available. Check manually for "ls /sys/firmware/efi/efi_vars/" I think it is
[21:23] <Abe> their must be a use for the old hdd's I think ? what would you guys suggest I should do. What are with the Pc cases?? should I move to offtopic?
[21:23] <mgolisch> its just a partition isnt it?
[21:23] <mgolisch> mount it and remove the grub file(s)
[21:24] <TJ-> mgolisch: that won't remove ubuntu from the boot manager menu
[21:25] <suyash> TJ: No such file or directory
[21:25] <TJ-> suyash: I might have the last component of the path wrong, so look 1 directory higher, but if you can't see the efi-vars under /sys/firmware/efi/ it is likely the PC booted in legacy mode
[21:27] <suyash> TJ: i am sorry, i forget to explain you that i have booted into ubuntu using live usb because i uninstalled grub while attempting to remove listing from boot menu
[21:28] <TJ-> suyash: don't worry, I'd already guessed that. The Live ISO can boot in UEFI or Legacy mode, and the mode used is controlled by the firmware boot menu. To make it worse, the menu it offers sometimes doesn't make it clear which entry is UEFI and which is Legacy
[21:28] <AEL-H> TJ- : Does 400K/s sound pretty slow to you for a typical harddrive? (obv not SSD haha)
[21:29] <TJ-> AEL-H: if the heads are seeking all over the disk that wouldn't surprise me. You'll only get multi-megabyte speeds when the files are large and/or contiguous
[21:30] <suyash> TJ: any idea what to do in my case?
[21:30] <TJ-> suyash: reboot, bring up the firmware boot manager menu, ensure you can identify the UEFI boot entry for the USB (you may need to scroll the list down to entries which are off-screen)
[21:31] <TJ-> suyash: sometimes it is so hard to tell you just have to try both entries ")
[21:36] <augusto> augusto
[21:37] <suyash> i can identify the UEFI boot enty for the live usb. the first option is Ubuntu, second option is Windows Boot Manager and third option is EFI USB Device (SanDisk USB Ultra)
[21:37] <TJ-> suyash: so the last one will be it by the sound of it
[21:38] <suyash> so i am trying to remove the Ubuntu entry not the efi usb device. the efi usb device option goes away if i remove the usb drive.
[21:39] <Arvid> Hello, So I am trying to setup up ssh keys following this guide: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-set-up-ssh-keys--2 however after I have done ssh-copy-id to the remote and entered my password, and then tried to ssh to the server I am not getting asked for my passphrase instead just my normal user password for the server. How can i debug this? ssh -vvv just tells me that the id_rsa was ssent but then it just moves
[21:39] <Arvid> on to password as auth method.
[21:40] <TJ-> suyash: I know. But you need to boot into the USB in UEFI mode to use the efibootmgr tool to remove the orphaned 'ubuntu' entry from the motherboard's non-volatile RAM
[21:41] <TJ-> suyash: that's why I asked earlier to identify if the system was in UEFI mode, because without it you cannot delete that orphaned entry
[21:41] <zacwalls> I am having this really weird desktop glitch http://imgur.com/UZVrNi5 what should I do to fix it?
[21:42] <zacwalls> this is a fresh install by the way...
[21:42] <suyash> TJ: i already tried it couple of times. the ubuntu option comes back after reboot
[21:42] <Arvid> Is this the right place for my question or does anyone have any tips on where I can get help with ssh auth to a ubuntu server?
[21:42] <TJ-> suyash: You tried what? deleting the entry using 'efibootmgr' ?
[21:42] <suyash> yes
[21:43] <MonkeyDust> Arvid  ask away, but keep your question in one line
[21:43] <TJ-> suyash: aahh, then maybe you have one of the many UEFI firmwares with bugs that prevents variable deletion
[21:43] <TJ-> suyash: what is the make/model of the PC, or the motherboard?
[21:43] <suyash> TJ: its Lenovo Y50-70
[21:44] <Arvid> MonkeyDust: I did that, or did you mean that my question was to long?
[21:45] <TJ-> suyash: a few months back I helped a user with an Ideapad, it turns out there is a known Lenovo firmware bug that causes EFI variable's to not be deleted. There were updated BIOSs issued for many models. First thing is to ensure the PC has the latest firmware version
[21:45] <MonkeyDust> Arvid  hit the up key to repeat your question, every 15 minutes or so, until someone enters who can help
[21:46] <suyash> TJ: i guess i have the latest firmware version
[21:46] <TJ-> Arvid: that guide doesn't specify how to configure the sshd on the server to use certificates; have you done that step?
[21:47] <TJ-> suyash: best to check, with this being a known issue with Lenovo
[21:47] <TJ-> suyash: the user I helped couldn't even get the firmware upgrade to work due to this bug... eventually they found a way via Windows 7 to sneak it in, but it took a week to figure out
[21:48] <Arvid> TJ-: no, but according to the owner it should be configured anyway I can check? Or do you have a guide I can follow?
[21:49] <TJ-> suyash: I've found the Lenovo advisory: https://support.lenovo.com/us/en/product_security/uefi_variable_reclaim
[21:51] <TJ-> Arvid: On the client, with 'ssh -vvv' you shuld see the server offer "debug1: Authentications that can continue: publickey,keyboard-interactive"
[21:52] <TJ-> Arvid: if you don't see 'publickey' then the server isn't configured for it. If you do, then look at the earlier debug messages to ensure your local ssh client is picking the correct key file
[21:52] <TJ-> Arvid: a fw lines after that message you should see something like: "debug1: Offering RSA public key: /home/$USER/.ssh/id_rsa"
[21:53] <suyash> TJ: the link you provided says lenovo y50-70 is also affected.
[21:53] <TJ-> suyash: I thought it was, so see about doing a firmware upgrade
[21:53] <Arvid> TJ-: yes that is right but after that it just moves on to id_dsa, which I don't have and then goes for the next authentication method
[21:54] <Arvid> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12195303/
[21:54] <TJ-> Arvid: That means the server didn't accept the key, obviously. So, log-in using password then check the access permissions to the ssh directory and files: "ls -al ~/.ssh/"
[21:55] <Arvid> Tj-: -rw------- 1 arvid arvid  406 Aug 25 23:22 authorized_keys
[21:55] <Arvid> which I thought was correct?
[21:55] <suyash> TJ: i will try to upgrade the firmware and i will provide further updates if updating firmware fixes my issue.
[21:55] <TJ-> Arvid: where's the id_rsa.pub? I thought you'd done ssh-copy -id ?
[21:57] <TJ-> suyash: good luck with that; it was a hard task for the other user with the Ideapad
[21:57] <Arvid> TJ-: ehm I did, ssh-copy-id arvid@remote, Should I try to copy it 'manually'?
[21:57] <TJ-> Arvid: the user account on the server is 'arvid' ?
[21:57] <Arvid> TJ-: yes
[21:58] <TJ-> Arvid: something went wrong then. Try it again. On the client do: "ssh-copy-id arvid@remote.host"
[21:58] <TJ-> Arvid: then try 'ssh -vvv arvid@remote.host"
[21:59] <made2obey> Hello All / all
[21:59] <Arvid> TJ-: should I delete the old authorization file?
[21:59] <Arvid> first
[21:59] <TJ-> Arvid: not right now, it won't hurt. Let's not delete anything until we have a working method
[22:01] <Arvid> TJ-: I get prompted by password and no passphrase when I do the ssh -vvv step, http://paste.ubuntu.com/12195331/
[22:02] <Arvid> TJ-: also no other files were created on the remote
[22:02] <TJ-> Arvid: can you show me, from the remote host, "ls -altr $HOME/.ssh/"
[22:03] <Arvid> TJ-: total 12
[22:03] <Arvid> drwxr-xr-x 8 arvid arvid 4096 Aug 25 23:22 ..
[22:03] <Arvid> drwx------ 2 arvid arvid 4096 Aug 25 23:22 .
[22:03] <Arvid> -rw------- 1 arvid arvid  812 Aug 25 23:59 authorized_keys
[22:04] <daniel72-72> Hi! I have Ubuntu 14.10 and I keep getting a notificatin that I will have connections issues if I don't update to the 15 version. Does the 15 take too much on my hardware? Can't I keep this one?
[22:04] <TJ-> Arvid: OK, that looks correct
[22:05] <TJ-> Arvid: OK, if you've never added a key (except this one) it is safe to delete authorized_keys and start all over again
[22:05] <TJ-> Arvid: do you have sudo access on this remote server?
[22:05] <Arvid> TJ-: nope:/
[22:06] <TJ-> Arvid: because I think the sysadmin needs to look at "/var/log/auth.log" to find out why the sshd is not accepting the public key
[22:06] <Arvid> TJ-: delete .ssh or just authorized_keys?
[22:06] <TJ-> Arvid: just the authorized_keys file
[22:06] <Arvid> TJ-: I'll try to get it from him on Skype
[22:07] <TJ-> Arvid: one cause can be if the server is configured to accept ciphers that the client can't do
[22:07] <TJ-> Arvid: if you can show me the entire ssh -vvv log that would help
[22:08] <Arvid> TJ-: sure, but if the auth.log would help alot I could always comeback tomorrow:)
[22:08] <TJ-> Arvid: another possible cause - incompatible key sizes. Your key might be smaller than the server will accept as a minimum
[22:08] <TJ-> Arvid: the auth.log is for the sysadmin to look at, not me :)
[22:09] <Arvid> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12195534/
[22:11] <TJ-> Arvid the version of ssh you are using is quite old; what Ubuntu release is it?
[22:11] <TJ-> Arvid "cat /etc/issue"
[22:12] <Arvid> TJ-: Ubuntu 15.04 \n \l
[22:13] <Arvid> TJ-: The owner of the server is not the greatest at updating things.. So that could be something..
[22:15] <sxclimax> Hi folks! I am in need of expert help.
[22:15] <TJ-> Arvid: the version of OpenSSH in Ubuntu 14.04 is "OpenSSH_6.6.1, OpenSSL 1.0.1f 6 Jan 2014"... your client is showing "OpenSSH_6.2p2, OSSLShim 0.9.8r 8 Dec 2011"
[22:16] <TJ-> Arvid: and I noticed that ssh-cop-id was launched from "/usr/local/bin/" when it should be in "/usr/bin/"
[22:16] <sxclimax> I own an ASUS UX21 Series Ultra Slim laptop. I cannot use this laptop without it plugged in. This bug is well described to that point that Linus Torvalds worked on the issue.
[22:16] <TJ-> Arvid: I suspect you have a very old version of OpenSSH installed under /usr/local/ and that is taking precedence. Tell us what "which ssh" reports
[22:17] <sxclimax> How do ensure this bug fix is implimented on my computer? This goes over my head: https://github.com/torvalds/linux/commit/dbf0e4c7257f8d684ec1a3c919853464293de66e
[22:17] <Arvid> TJ-: /usr/bin/ssh
[22:17] <TJ-> Arvid: and what does "ssh -V' report?
[22:17] <Arvid> OpenSSH_6.2p2, OSSLShim 0.9.8r 8 Dec 2011
[22:18] <TJ-> sxclimax: commit dbf0e4c was added in July 2012 - what release of Ubuntu are you using?
[22:19] <Arvid> TJ-: So I should update openssh on OSX locally and try again:)?
[22:19] <TJ-> Arvid: I'm on 14.04 and I see "OpenSSH_6.6.1p1 Ubuntu-2ubuntu2.3, OpenSSL 1.0.1f 6 Jan 2014" ... if you're on Vivid 15.04 you should be seeing a later version
[22:19] <Arvid> TJ-: oh I might be confusing local and remote now
[22:19] <TJ-> Arvid: hang on, you're on OSX? I thought you said the local was Ubuntu 15.04?
[22:19] <Arvid> TJ-: which one was the version and which for?
[22:20] <Arvid> TJ-: no sorry if that was unclear, local: OSX, remote: ubuntu
[22:20] <TJ-> Arvid: Ahhhhhhh! that explains a lot :D
[22:20] <TJ-> Arvid: OK... in the full -vvv pastebin were several error reports of the form "unknown mech-code" which means the version on OSX is too old, and is not correctly communicating with the server
[22:22] <Arvid> TJ-: err I'm on yosemite or are you talking about ssh version?
[22:22] <sxclimax> TJ- I was using ubuntu 14.04 but was still having the issue. It got to the point that my hard drive corrupted today because of a sudden shutdown when the power was cord was unplugged today.
[22:22] <sxclimax> I am currently working from a Live CD (boo...)
[22:22] <TJ-> sxclimax: that commit was introduced in kernel v3.5 so it is in 14.04, which has v3.13 or later
[22:23] <sxclimax> Well then, my computer was having unexplained shutdowns without being plugged in -- the exact problem purported to be fixed by that commit
[22:23] <Arvid> TJ-: So I guess I should install openssh through brew to get a later version of ssh locally?
[22:25] <TJ-> Arvid: it looks like that, or build a virtual machine Ubuntu guest and work from that :)
[22:25] <Hpaman> i am wondering if anybody knows of a device file i can create to read all of computer memory /dev/mem seems to only do a little bit so i am curious if there is something with dd i can uses to dump all memory to file i know there is ways using linux c functions but i am wondeing about major and minor device numbers that would do the equivalent
[22:25] <Hpaman> anybody on this irc know or familar with something
[22:26] <Hpaman> like this
[22:26] <Arvid> TJ-: ok, thank you for all the help with the troubleshoot!
[22:26] <TJ-> sxclimax: The commit you referred to makes no mention of that problem, it is only for ensuring the PC doesn't hang when resuming from sleep
[22:26] <sxclimax> TJ- Oh. I found that link following threads around the ASUS shutdown issue. Someone must have linked there in error
[22:28] <TJ-> sxclimax: what does the PC do if you only power it from battery? Does it start to boot, does it get to loading Linux. ?
[22:29] <sxclimax> It crashes once I log in, but makes it that far at least
[22:29] <sxclimax> If it is plugged in -- no problems at all
[22:29] <TJ-> sxclimax: by 'crashes' what do you mean exactly? powers off unexpectedly? writes a kernel panic to console?
[22:30] <sxclimax> One of two things: either the whole screen pauses and no keys or mouse movement is possible, the fan gets loud and the computer gets warm (I then have to hold the power button to shut it off); sometimes the computer immediately shuts off
[22:32] <TJ-> OK, the first sounds like the 'halt' instruction was executed... which should be followed by a shutdown/reboot but may not be.
[22:33] <TJ-> sxclimax: are you able to log-in as the Guest user, or another new user account, or does this affect those too. This test will identify if the problem is a per-user config, or systemwide
[22:34] <sxclimax> TJ- I haven't tried this, but I cannot test it now; my hard drive is corrupted and I am trying to recover my data
[22:34] <sxclimax> Ubuntu won't boot today
[22:34] <TJ-> sxclimax: ouch.
[22:36] <tgm4883> hard drive corrupted
[22:36] <tgm4883> wonder if that isn't a coincidence
[22:36] <sxclimax> My problems were pretty well described here: http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/11750.html and here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/989191
[22:41] <TJ-> sxclimax: Have you tried disconnecting the (internal) battery?
[22:42] <TJ-> sxclimax: I see a lot of reports that the issue a corrupted memory controller hub (MCH) that needs a cold reset, which it doesn't get when the battery is connected and providing +5V standby. See https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=60812
[22:42] <TJ-> sxclimax: Yes, I had read that bug. The bug I've just given you is the upstream bug report for the same issue.
[22:43] <TJ-> sxclimax: the Fix Released is more than likely incorrect
[22:50] <rnernento> +
[22:50] <rnernento> does anyone have a recommendation for a gui based software manager that isn't ubuntu software center?
[22:50] <pppx> can any one tell me how to contact a ubuntu Australia team member if I know his IRC id? I am new to IRC chat
[22:50] <pecanqn> hi
[22:51] <xangua> rnernento: synaptic
[22:51] <rnernento> thanks
[22:53] <OerHeks> pppx https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AustralianTeam/IRC
[22:54] <chas> Hello guys
[22:54] <chas> Anyone using Ubuntu 15?
[22:54] <chas> Im using the default windows manager (Unity I believe), and I'm trying to get my window icons (minimize, maximize, and close) moved over to the right
[22:55] <chas> I found a lot of pages that said use the tweak tool I installed that and where it's supposed to be it's not :(
[22:55] <MonkeyDust> chas  that's not possible
[22:55] <xangua> chas short answer is use another desktop enviroment
[22:55] <chas> seriously?
[22:55] <MonkeyDust> chas  ah, i thought you mean the bar
[22:56] <xangua> MonkeyDust: neither is posible :P
[22:56] <chas> that's highly dissapointing
[22:56] <xangua> you are free to use another more traditional desktop, kde, xfce, mate
[22:56] <MonkeyDust> chas  install unity-tweak-tool > Appearance > Windows controls
[22:57] <chas> that's exactly what I just said, where its supposed to be it's not there
[22:57] <pecanqn> hello, i need to fix a hdd.
[22:57] <chas> windows>titlebar buttons
[22:57] <chas> than skips to HDPI
[22:57] <chas> HIDPI*
[22:57] <TJ-> sxclimax: Are you currently using the UX21 from a Live ISO?
[22:58] <chas> pecanqn can you be more specific?
[22:58] <pecanqn> badblocks -svf /dev/sdb -o hdd.txt
[22:58] <chas> you need to reformat, you need to recover...
[22:58] <pecanqn> i use this command
[22:58] <pecanqn> i need to save a hdd, without format.
[22:58] <MonkeyDust> chas  not sure what you mean, but unity-tweak-tool can do what you want
[22:58] <daniel72-72> Hi! Can someone help me? I have Ubuntu 14.10 installed and I got a nottification saying that I will have network issues if I don't update to the 15.04. Does the 15.04 uses alot of hardware or is it lean. I'm trying to keep as light as possible. thanks
[22:59] <OerHeks> those 3 icons with dconf  gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.wm.preferences button-layout minimize,maximize,close:menu
[22:59] <xangua> MonkeyDust: no, it can't
[22:59] <pecanqn> ok, im from argentina, my english its so poor. i need to fix a hdd, and i use this sintaxis badblocks -svf /dev/sdb -o 2GB.txt
[22:59] <pecanqn> its ok to fix?
[23:00] <xangua> daniel72-72: 14.10 stopped being supported since july 23, 2015
[23:00] <mcphail> daniel72-72: 14.10 is now unsupported and you should update regardless. But 15.04 is not known to be more bloated than 14.10
[23:01] <chas> I'm currently looking at the Tweak Tool
[23:01] <chas> MonkeyDust
[23:01] <MonkeyDust> chas  just tried, idd, unity-tweak-tool no longer does it
[23:01] <daniel72-72> Xangua: Thanks. Should I stall the 12.04 LTS?
[23:02] <xangua> daniel72-72: you should use a supported ubuntu release
[23:02] <chas> frustrating :/, what's a good window manager that's like unity?
[23:02] <daniel72-72> mcphail: Thank you for your attention.
[23:03] <pecanqn>  i need to fix a hdd, and i use this sintaxis badblocks -svf /dev/sdb -o 2GB.txt, its ok?
[23:03] <daniel72-72> Thanks everyone for the attention
[23:04] <daniel72-72> Just one other thing, I'm having problems using Yumi on Ubuntu, last time I needed to used I had to creat the bootable flash drive I uded Windows. Is there an altrnative to Yumi??
[23:04] <MonkeyDust> chas  guess it's easier to get used to the buttons on the left
[23:04] <xangua> !usb | daniel72-72
[23:05] <pecanqn>  i need to fix a hdd, and i use this sintaxis badblocks -svf /dev/sdb -o 2GB.txt, its ok?
[23:05] <daniel72-72> Thanks everyone. You helped alot
[23:06] <daniel72-72> Thanks, is a default on ubuntu and I didn't know. Thanks again
[23:07] <mcphail> daniel72-72: enjoy
[23:07] <pecanqn>  i need to fix a hdd, and i use this sintaxis badblocks -svf /dev/sdb -o 2GB.txt, its ok?
[23:09] <jjavaholic> I need to resize the root partition how would you suggest I go about this?
[23:09] <TJ-> jjavaholic: is the root file-system using LVM?
[23:10] <jjavaholic> no it is not
[23:10] <TJ-> jjavaholic: do you want to shrink or extend it?
[23:10] <jjavaholic> extend it
[23:11] <pecanqn>  i need to fix a hdd, and i use this sintaxis badblocks -svf /dev/sdb -o 2GB.txt, its ok?
[23:11] <pecanqn> the disk have three ntfs partitions.
[23:12] <TJ-> jjavaholic: is there free space following the partition?
[23:12] <jjavaholic> not directly after there is a 6.3gb swap partition
[23:13] <TJ-> jjavaholic: so what is your intention/hope? reduce the size of the swap and give the space to the rootfs partition
[23:13] <jjavaholic> resize into unallotted space after swap partition
[23:14] <jjavaholic> partition/space
[23:14] <jjavaholic> I have thought about just creating a new /home partition
[23:16] <TJ-> jjavaholic: OK, that would probably be the less complicated approach. Create a new partition in the unallocated space, format it, boot in recovery mode so you're logged in as root user, mount it to say /mnt/new_home/ then 'mv /home/* /mnt/new_home/', add an entry in /etc/fstab to mount the partition to /home/ and reboot
[23:19] <bodie_> I seem to have installed two incompatible versions of a library.  I installed one from source, after I thought the other was gone.  I need some help figuring out how to clean up the situation.
[23:20] <bodie_> it looks like my linker compiled a binary using the newer version, but is using the older .so
[23:20] <bodie_> (this is after running ldconfig)
[23:21] <TJ-> bodie_: which library?
[23:23] <bodie_> TJ-, ZeroMQ 4.1.3
[23:23] <bodie_> s/linker compiled/linker linked/ :)
[23:23] <TJ-> bodie_: which package though? libzmq3 ?
[23:24] <jjavaholic> current /home won't have anything important in it so wouldn't it be easier to set mount point for newly formatted partition to /home and let new default folders be made
[23:24] <bodie_> TJ-, I installed it from source, and I know I made sure libzmq-dev and libzmq3 were removed
[23:25] <bodie_> I just don't know where I need to start digging to figure out where the wrong pieces are D:
[23:25] <mcphail> bodie_: for a start, have a look under /usr/local. Anything under there will not have been installed by the package manager
[23:26] <TJ-> bodie_: "ldd /path/to/binary" will tell you the paths to all the linked libraries
[23:26] <NekoTheCat> Hello
[23:27] <bodie_> mcphail, ok.  I think that's where the correct .so's were installed.  I have libzmq.so and libzmq.so.5 there symlinked to libzmq.so.5.0.0
[23:27] <bodie_> mcphail, those are the ones I *want* to have, though
[23:27] <TJ-> jjavaholic: you still need to copy/move over the original content so it doesn't take up space that you cannot access
[23:28] <NekoTheCat> I'm having some problems with my (almost) freshly installed Ubuntu
[23:28] <NekoTheCat> Someone pls halp ;_;
[23:28] <TJ-> jjavaholic: e.g. you have a root-fs that has /home/$USER/.config/ and other files. If you then do "mount /dev/sdaX /home/" you've got a clean home directory, and need to create the user account directories. At the same time you've just *hidden* the files in the root-fs from view, but they are still there taking up space
[23:29]  * bodie_ mutters eldritch incantations in the direction of NekoTheCat's Ubuntu
[23:29] <mcphail> bodie_: you can set LD_LIBRARY_PATH to the directory of the libraries you want to use in preference
[23:31] <bodie_> mcphail, LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/local/lib/ ./go gives me the same error: `zmq4 was installed with ZeroMQ version 4.0.5, but the application links with version 4.1.3`
[23:32] <bodie_> mcphail, when I run `locate libzmq.so`, it shows files that don't exist any more
[23:32] <bodie_> hash -r didn't fix it
[23:33] <buzzbug> bodie_: history maybe
[23:33] <bodie_> but I guess those are just stale entries in the updatedb
[23:33] <mcphail> bodie_: yes, you'd need to run updatedb
[23:33] <bodie_> or whatever it's called.  yeah.  doing that now.  but that shouldn't affect what files are seen when it tries to find a shared library, should it?
[23:34] <TJ-> bodie_: that error suggests 'go' was built to link to libzmq 4.1.3 but the local version of zmq4 is 4.0.5 - so which version of zmq source did you build?
[23:34] <mcphail> bodie_: what happens if you set LD_PRELOAD=/path/to/library.so ./go
[23:34] <bodie_> TJ-, I know I built and installed 4.1.3, which is what I want.  I don't know where the .so for 4.0.5 is
[23:35] <bodie_> or why it's finding it instead
[23:35] <TJ-> bodie_: "which zmq4" maybe ?
[23:35] <sxclimax> Hey folks. I would love some help recovering my data.
[23:35] <bodie_> mcphail, same error still
[23:36] <bodie_> does that mean the .so's I'm looking at in /usr/local/lib are the old ones?
[23:36] <mcphail> bodie_: have to say I don't understand why that is failing, I'm afraid
[23:36] <sxclimax> I am booted in a Live USB because of the following error at boot otherwise: "init: Failed to spawn friendly-recovery pre-start process: unable to getpwuid: No such file or directory"
[23:37] <sxclimax> First of all, is this a fixable problem?
[23:37] <TJ-> bodie_: did you build 'go' or 'libzmq4' ?
[23:37] <sxclimax> Second of all, when I try to mount my home directory in my Live environment with "sudo ecryptfs-recover-private" I get empty folders called Downloads, Desktop etc. without my data there.
[23:38] <bodie_> TJ-, both
[23:38] <TJ-> sxclimax: whilst you are in the Live ISO can you capture and upload the ACPI tables for the bug report?
[23:38] <bodie_> "go" is a binary that is linked with libzmq4
[23:38] <sxclimax> TJ- without instructions on how to do that, I'm not sure I can
[23:38] <TJ-> bodie_: so what does "ldd  ./go" report as the paths for the libzmq SOs?
[23:39] <mcphail> bodie_: perhaps it pulled the 4.0.5 header files, but linked against 4.1.3
[23:39] <TJ-> sxclimax: I can give you the instructions ")
[23:39] <bodie_> libzmq.so.5 => /usr/local/lib/libzmq.so.5
[23:39] <bodie_> so I guess that's the old one?
[23:40] <bodie_> mcphail, I think so, I'm just trying to figure out why and how to clean up the mess >_<
[23:41] <mcphail> bodie_: sounds like a nightmare. I'm off to sleep so good luck with it all
[23:41] <TJ-> sxclimax: "sudo apt-get install acpica-tools"   and then "sudo acpidump >/tmp/UX21.acpidump.txt" ... then attach that file to bug 989191
[23:41] <bodie_> thanks for the help mcphail!  lol
[23:41] <bodie_> and TJ- :)
[23:42] <gp5st> hello. on ubuntu 14.04.3, installing haproxy adds the file /etc/rsyslog.d/49-haproxy.conf (contents: http://dpaste.com/39TQEPJ) on my one server this all works fine and dandy and rsyslog creates the appropriate socket, but on this one it's not and i'm having a heck of a time figuring out why
[23:43] <sxclimax> TJ- I have the output file but I'm not clear on where I'm supposed to attach the file
[23:46] <TJ-> sxclimax: use a web browser to visit the bug report page that ubottu just showed, log-in, and attach the report. If you don't have a launchpad account then instead put the file contents into a pastebin and I'll copy it to the bug report. You can pastebin it using "sudo apt-get install pastebinit" and then "pastebinit /tmp/UX21.acpidump.txt"
[23:47] <TJ-> sxclimax: also, when you get chance, I strongly recommend you read the additional comments I've added to that bug report. There are several reports from users that say disconnecting and reconnecting the battery permanently fixes the issue for them.
[23:47] <linuxnewbie22> Hey, I'm wondering how I should go about updating the bios for my dell computer. I downloaded the driver off dell's website, however my attempt at using a bootable freedos usb didn't succeed. What's the easiest way to do it for a noob like me?
[23:48] <bodie_> welp, I cleaned out the old .so's, rebuilt and reinstalled the package, confirmed they were timestamped right, rebuilt the executable, and it's still giving me the same error.  I can only conclude that I am insane and will now take up a new line of work.  lol
[23:48] <TJ-> linuxnewbie22: how did you create the FreeDos bootable?
[23:48] <sxclimax> TJ- I have tried the disconnecting the battery trick. It would fix the error for a couple of days then the same thing would recur.
[23:48] <sxclimax> I have done it so many times now that I am afraid of ripping the cable while disconnnecting it
[23:48] <TJ-> sxclimax: really? did oyu do any suspend/resume actions during that time?
[23:48] <sxclimax> Perhaps
[23:49] <linuxnewbie22> Tj-: I used unetbootin. I'm using lubuntu btw.
[23:49] <sxclimax> I use suspend as part of my normal workflow
[23:49] <TJ-> sxclimax: OK... well collecting this ACPI info is the best chance of figuring it out, since it contains code the ACPI firmware tells the OS to execute for power events.
[23:49] <linuxnewbie22> My lubuntu version is 15.04
[23:50] <TJ-> sxclimax: OK, so that leads me to theorise that it is possible that during a suspend/resume cycle some settings are not correctly reset and lead to the problem
[23:50] <OerHeks> should work linuxnewbie22
[23:50] <OerHeks> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DellBIOS
[23:50] <TJ-> sxclimax: if as soon as you have your PC usable again, can register for an account on launchpad and subscribe to the bug report and add log files to it, I can work on it.
[23:50] <sxclimax> It should be noted that this computer came with Windows 7 and the same issues of shutdowns while unplugged would happen on occasion in that OS. I no longer have a dual-boot to test this, though
[23:51] <sxclimax> I added the log files now
[23:51] <TJ-> sxclimax: Yes, I've read of that. That's why I think it is mainly a firmware issue where some devices aren't being reset correctly There are some fixes we can experiment with for those, too
[23:52] <linuxnewbie22> OerHeks: When I booted into Freedos, it told me it couldn't find an iso or cd.
[23:52] <LambdaComplex> linuxnewbie22: ...Why are you using FreeDOS?
[23:53] <pettypierx> LambdaComplex: maybe he wants to
[23:53] <linuxnewbie22> Lamdacomplex: To try and update my bios. However, my attempt failed.
[23:53] <OerHeks> There are more solutions on that page
[23:54] <LambdaComplex> And why are you asking in #ubuntu? O.o
[23:54] <TJ-> sxclimax: I've assigned the bug to myself, and will keep track of it
[23:54] <sxclimax> In the meanwhile, can anyone help me to recover my data? My last exhaustive backup is a month old and only some of my files are on Dropbox. My home directory was encrypted with ubuntu. I am trying to access these files now. Wen I log in as su, I see a readme that suggests I run ecryptfs-mount-private
[23:54] <sxclimax> . When I do this,  I get a mounted directory with blank Desktop, Document, Download files, etc.
[23:54] <linuxnewbie22> Lamdacomplex: I'm on lubuntu right now.
[23:54] <sxclimax> TJ- Thank you kindly
[23:54] <pettypierx> LambdaComplex: you have more insults
[23:54] <LambdaComplex> pettypierx: Those aren't insults, they're legitimate questions
[23:54] <linuxnewbie22> Oerheks: Thanks, I'll try the Wine method.
[23:54] <OerHeks> LambdaComplex, pretty normal question, as there is a wiki for it.
[23:54] <LambdaComplex> I fail to see what updating a BIOS has to do with both FreeDOS and Ubuntu
[23:55] <sxclimax> Now it says, "Encrypted private directory is not setup properly
[23:55] <sxclimax> "
[23:56] <pettypierx> linuxnewbie22: bios of what
[23:57] <sxclimax> Nevermind, I found my data!
[23:57] <sxclimax> Huzzah!
[23:57] <acmeraptor> Does anyone have a working guide for setting up tightvncserver?  My web searches have given me some outdated info.
[23:57] <linuxnewbie22> pettypierx: I'm updating my dell computer's bios. My machine's support code is 4RKR8C1
[23:58] <TJ-> linuxnewbie22: you've almost got it correct, I know the method and tools work
[23:58] <linuxnewbie22> pettypierx: But don't get me wrong, I'm on lubuntu right now, not windows.
[23:58] <linuxnewbie22> pettypierx: I uninstalled windows fully, so I can't use it to update the bios driver, so I'm going to try wine now.
[23:59] <pettypierx> Lin
[23:59] <pettypierx> linuxnewbie22: is it a Windows exe or dos exe