darkxstinfinity, the i386 is stuck  for some reason03:36
darkxst(ubuntu GNOME build)03:36
infinitydarkxst: It's being sorted.03:36
darkxstinfinity, k, thanks03:37
infinitydarkxst: There's just two fresh builds going, so the amd64 one from two hours ago will invalidate.  Didn't notice that one, sorry.03:38
darkxstdoesnt matter, not like anyone started testing it03:39
infinitydarkxst: Right, these builds will actually show on the milestone now, I fixed that.  So, should be good to go in ~30m or whatever.03:40
darkxsthopefully its not to broken!03:44
darkxstinfinity, can you increase the size limits on images, to get rid of the oversized messages? we have a nominal 1.5GB limit now04:04
darkxstatleast that is what our teams decided, clearly the servers don't know this yet!04:07
flexiondotorginfinity, Awake or sleeping?07:41
flexiondotorgdidrocks, Can you do me a favour? Please can you update the ubuntu-mate-meta package?07:55
didrocksflexiondotorg: sure, doing that07:56
didrocksflexiondotorg: you pushed your changes to your seed?07:56
flexiondotorgI've got a couple of packages missing.07:56
flexiondotorgI have pushed seed changes.07:56
flexiondotorgdidrocks, Thanks.07:56
didrocksflexiondotorg: yw, running the update :)07:56
flexiondotorg3 new packages should turn up.07:56
didrocksI'll send you the diff07:56
dokoRiddell, looks like a lot of my fixes for kde stuff were overridden again, and gcc-5 hangs again for kde issues :-/07:57
flexiondotorgLaney, unblock ubuntu-mate-meta/1.13107:58
didrocksflexiondotorg: looking good to you? http://paste.ubuntu.com/12197794/ (got 4 new packages, not 3)08:23
* flexiondotorg checks...08:23
flexiondotorgdidrocks, Yes, that's exactly what I expected to see. Thank you.08:25
didrocksflexiondotorg: yw! uploading08:25
flexiondotorgdidrocks, Cheers. I've spent weeks negotiating with Debian Legal about the MATE documentation. More weeks adding it all in. Then forget to include the damn package in the seeds ;-)08:26
didrocksahah ;)08:27
sil2100Hello release team! I would need to disable the importer for a short while10:44
flexiondotorgLaney, ^^^^^^^11:02
flexiondotorgDoes the request from sil2100 mean anything to you?11:05
sil2100I'll reenable it in a moment, just the image copies take ages11:06
sil2100Delta creation is slow11:06
sil2100Laney: I can actually leave the importer running if you want, just my copy-image calls might block if from time to time11:07
LaneyI don't think it affects me, do what you want :)11:07
sil2100Ok, thanks :) In case you guys need to re-spin some flavor images, I can enable the importer then if needed11:08
sil2100Since I usually disable it as otherwise it can block my copy-image from happening if it starts running11:08
infinitysil2100: The importer has no relation to flavour images (or anything other than system-image).11:16
sil2100Ah, right, ubuntu-core/ubuntu-personal are not affected by this, nvm then ;)11:19
sil2100infinity: btw. did you get my pokes with questions about britney?11:19
infinitysil2100: I did, I need to respond soon.  Sorry, was out all last week.11:20
sil2100infinity: no worries, just hope you got some sleep yesterday at least11:20
infinitysil2100: Sort of. :/11:22
ogra_flexiondotorg, importer means phones, snappy and the ubuntu-pocket-desktop that use system-image ... we developed  habit of announcing here when we disable it so in case i forget to switch it on again someone can poke me about it ... there is no other easy way to let others that depend on it know why or who disabled it11:26
flexiondotorgogra_, Thanks for explaining :-)11:27
infinityogra_: One could, I dunno, leave their name in a comment when they comment it out. ;)11:29
ogra_details :P11:29
ogra_infinity, if sil2100 announces it in advance i can intercept if i'm just waiting for an important snappy import ;)11:31
ogra_(not that i would though ...)11:31
ogra_(waiting i mean)11:31
infinity(At this point, I think you're just talking to yourself)11:31
infinityI need to pick a new timezone for the week, mine's not working out.11:33
infinityAnyone have anything good to say about theirs?11:33
ogra_it is sunny and warm in mine11:34
infinityBeats smokey and warm in mine.11:34
infinityIt seems every tree in a 200km radius is committing suicide, with no regard whatsoever to my need to breathe.11:35
infinitys/to my/for my/ ... I need coffee.  Or sleep.  *flips coin*11:35
ShinikakeEST is pretty nice this time of day.11:36
* Shinikake sips a Brazilian blend.11:36
ogra_infinity, decaf *and* sleep ?11:37
infinityogra_: I don't understand that first word.11:37
infinityogra_: Silly German.11:37
infinityI guess it'll be a coffee and glibc rebase sort of morning.11:39
infinityNo one wants me actually awake when I do that.11:39
infinityogra_: Are you still of the opinion that no one in the phone world cares about wily (other than if we completely break it, of course)?11:40
ogra_infinity, i am ... but then i'm a snappy dude now :)11:40
infinityogra_: ie, should I give them N days to play with glibc 2.22 and report back to me, or just trust the desktop/server/autopkgtest QA is good enough?11:41
ogra_wily wont end up on any phones ... and gcc5 breaks all store apps11:41
infinityRighto.  Then I'm inclined to not give them control over my QA. :P11:41
ogra_but people landing stuff in wily like to at least test on a semi working image ...11:41
ogra_so breaking it completelly might cause an outcry11:42
infinityogra_: I have no intention of *breaking* glibc, I just don't want a repeat of when I landed 2.21 with, literally, one bug anyone cared about, and it spawned more meetings and specs than UDS.11:42
ogra_yeah, no worries ... phones are and stay vivid based11:43
Riddell<cyphermox> Riddell: looks like it's much more than modemmanager: all of dbus looks messed up11:43
Riddellno upgrades I guess for beta 1 ^^11:43
ogra_Riddell, didnt it always ?11:43
Riddellogra_: always mess up?11:44
ogra_dbus looking mssed up :)11:44
flexiondotorgMirv any chance you can help me out?11:47
ubot93Launchpad bug 1488930 in ubuntu-mate-settings (Ubuntu) "ubuntu-mate-settings 15.10.1 bugfix release [debdiff attached]" [Undecided,New]11:47
flexiondotorgLaney, unblock ubuntu-mate-settings/15.10.111:47
Laneyflexiondotorg: anyone on the team can do these, you don't need to ask me directly11:50
Laneybut done11:51
=== jhodapp is now known as jhodapp|sick
flexiondotorgLaney, any chance you could sponsor a couple of uploads for me?13:25
Laneyinfinity: slangasek: stgraber: anyone: Any of you able to do the B1 publishing tomorrow in my stead?13:55
LaneyI'll be at BF & probably not available13:55
Laney(but if I am then I'll let you know)13:56
flexiondotorgLaney, I am going to be unavailable from 13:30 till 15:00 tomorrow. Hopefully that won't impact my chasing.14:06
flexiondotorgRiddell, any chance you could sponsor a couple of packages for me please?14:07
Riddellflexiondotorg: in a bit, I'm in a meeting now14:09
flexiondotorgRiddell, Thanks. When you're free please take a look at:14:10
ubot93Launchpad bug 1488930 in ubuntu-mate-settings (Ubuntu) "ubuntu-mate-settings 15.10.1 bugfix release [debdiff attached]" [Undecided,New]14:10
ubot93Launchpad bug 1488968 in ubuntu-mate-welcome (Ubuntu) "ubuntu-mate-welcome 1.0.3 new bugfix release [debdiff attached]" [Undecided,New]14:10
stokachuinfinity:just confirming you saw the openstack package upload?15:11
coreycbhello, can an archive admin please promote python-pymysql to main? this will help get some of our openstack packages out of dependency waits.16:06
cjwatsoncoreycb: I'll take care of it, and a few others I see in the queue16:11
coreycbcjwatson, thanks16:11
cjwatsoncoreycb: all done16:26
coreycbcjwatson, thanks, appreciate it16:27
infinityLaney: If all the paperwork is covered and I have to do nothing but pull the trigger, I'm down.  I don't have the time to crack any whips.17:47
sil2100Dear release team! The importer is now re-enabled and the daily-builds of rc-proposed (vivid touch) as well18:40
sil2100(just a heads up)18:40
flexiondotorginfinity, Please can you unblock ubuntu-mate-welcome/1.0.318:46
flexiondotorgunblock ubuntu-mate-welcome/1.0.319:23
flexiondotorgunblock mate-netbook/1.10.0-119:23
flexiondotorgunblock eom/1.10.3-119:24
coreycbhi, can an archive admin please promote python-taskflow and python-oslo.db to main?  that'll fix some of our openstack dependency waits.  also we have an FFE ( bug 1489096 ) for python-troveclient that is also needed to fix some openstack packages that are ftbfs.19:24
ubot93bug 1489096 in python-troveclient (Ubuntu) "[FFE] Please sync python-troveclient (1.2.0-3) from Debian (experimental)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/148909619:24
infinityflexiondotorg: Done * 3.19:25
flexiondotorginfinity, Thanks very much :-)19:25
cyphermoxflexiondotorg: some of that wasn't built yet ;)19:26
flexiondotorgcyphermox, I learned yesterday that that doesn't matter :-)19:27
infinitycoreycb: We can never sync that package from Debian unless Debian bumps the epoch in the version (which you could ask them nicely to do).19:27
coreycbinfinity, I was wondering.. ok19:27
cyphermoxflexiondotorg: well, it's just that sometimes things don't build :)19:27
infinitycoreycb: Versions can't go back in time. :P19:27
coreycbinfinity, yeah, I'll cancel it and update our package19:27
infinitycoreycb: However, if you find that a merge ends up identical in every way except the version number, please do ask the Debian maintainer to add the epoch to paper over our oops.  If you ask nicely, I'm sure he won't mind.19:28
coreycbinfinity, maybe that's an option.  I'll check with zigo.  thanks.19:29
infinitycoreycb: Bleh.  There's exactly zero mention in the changelog as to WHY we even added the epoch.  Oh well.19:30
infinitycoreycb: Our packaging seems quite different, but it would be nice for that to not be true.19:30
coreycbinfinity, I've compared our package with debian's and it's ok to sync, assuming the version issue is settled19:31
coreycbinfinity, yeah I think it was just a mistake19:32
cjwatsonInitial release with an epoch *blink*19:37
cjwatsonProbably should have been caught in NEW review.19:37
infinitycjwatson: It may have been a case of "our users have this installed already due to $random_ppa, and we want to support upgrades", but I don't think I'm the one who reviewed it.19:54
infinity(And if it was me, I don't remember. :P)19:54
flexiondotorginfinity, I see ubuntu-mate-settings failed to build while trying to parse the time?22:18
flexiondotorginfinity, Can you shed any light on this for me?22:18
infinityflexiondotorg: Huh.  Can't say I've ever seen that failure mode before. :P22:20
flexiondotorginfinity, dpkg-genchanges -S -sa works fine here.22:21
infinityflexiondotorg: I've retried it to see if it was some weird cosmic ray thing.22:21
flexiondotorginfinity, Thanks.22:21
flexiondotorginfinity, Just out of interest, what "time" is it parsing?22:21
infinityflexiondotorg: Dunno, you'd have to follow the code.22:22
* flexiondotorg is suddenly very tired and thinks it might be time for bed ;-)22:24
infinityflexiondotorg: Huh, no, it really does hate you.22:26
* infinity grabs the source.22:26
* flexiondotorg is curious.22:26
flexiondotorgcyphermox, Sponsored that upload and encountered the same issue initially. But used a different machine to do the build in the end.22:27
infinityErr, that's not a good sign. :P22:27
infinityAnd, indeed, same thing here.22:28
cyphermoxit's the changelog timestamp from the previous upload22:29
infinitydpkg-genchanges has no business parsing old entries..22:30
infinityThough, I don't see anything wrong with that one either.22:30
cyphermox*shrugs*  if I kept just the latest it was happy22:30
flexiondotorgdebuild -S works on the machine I have access to.22:30
flexiondotorgThe previous change log time stamp have July rather Jul and June rather than Jun.22:31
infinityflexiondotorg: Yuo're not using the latest dpkg, I assume.22:31
flexiondotorgCould that be the issue.22:31
flexiondotorginfinity, I'm on 15.04.22:31
infinityOh, could be, yes.22:31
flexiondotorgThis machine at least.22:31
* infinity hacks a bit.22:31
flexiondotorginfinity, Thanks.22:31
infinityOkay, it's fixed in git.  Lemme rev dpkg and retry your build.22:37
flexiondotorginfinity, Many thanks.22:38
infinityflexiondotorg: You'll probably want to go and correct history sometime, but the new dpkg will actually tell you which lines are broken, making that easier.22:38
infinityflexiondotorg: Like so: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12202661/22:39
flexiondotorginfinity, Thanks.22:40
* flexiondotorg is a bit puzzled why lintian is not spitting out errors when dpkg is clearly upset.22:41
infinityOh, embarrassing, it trips on some of my lines in the dpkg changelog. :P22:42
infinityflexiondotorg: dpkg very recently switched to a newer/stricted timedate parsing module to drop a dependency (the new one is from perl itself, not a module).22:42
infinityflexiondotorg: Like many such things that Just Worked for ten years, changing it has been entertaining.22:43
flexiondotorginfinity, Any chance you could sponsor a sync for me?22:43
ubot93Launchpad bug 1489185 in mate-tweak (Ubuntu) "Sync mate-tweak 3.5.2-1 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,New]22:44
infinityHrm.  Not convinced the new implementation is quite sane yet either.22:44
flexiondotorgI have a howling bug in mate-tweak 3.5.122:44
flexiondotorgSo I had 3.5.2 uploaded to Debian unstable earlier.22:44
flexiondotorginfinity, I realise you're busy but if you can find the time to sponsor the following syncs I'd be most grateful.23:03
flexiondotorginfinity, Both fix signifcant issues I'd really prefer to not be in 15.10 Beta 1 tomorrow.23:04
flexiondotorgmate-tweak      https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/148918523:04
flexiondotorgcaja-extensions https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/148918623:04
ubot93Launchpad bug 1489185 in mate-tweak (Ubuntu) "Sync mate-tweak 3.5.2-1 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,New]23:04
ubot93Launchpad bug 1489186 in caja-extensions (Ubuntu) "Sync caja-extensions 1.10.0-1 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,New]23:04
infinityflexiondotorg: Hold on, I'm still fixing dpkg.  The rabbit hole went deeper. :P23:05
flexiondotorginfinity, Oh. Sorry to hear that.23:05
sil2100flexiondotorg: I could sponsor those, but it's already a bit late here, not sure if I wouldn't fall asleep before doing that23:14
flexiondotorgsil2100, If you're able to stave off sleep I'd really appreciate.23:15
flexiondotorgsil2100, I'd like to respin the isos first thing so I can run through the tests.23:15
flexiondotorgsil2100, Where are you?23:15
sil2100flexiondotorg: let me see what I can do here, maybe I can pick it up before infinity has time - since those are universe packages23:16
sil2100Poland, EU23:16
flexiondotorgsil2100, England.23:16
flexiondotorgSo, yes. Past your bed time ;-)23:16
sil2100flexiondotorg: did you check if the mate-tweak builds correctly on wily? Do you have any build-logs handy?23:20
flexiondotorgsil2100, One sec...23:21
* sil2100 wonders if this requires a FFe23:22
sil2100In theory new upstream versions should, but on the other hand it has only bugfixes it seems?23:22
flexiondotorgsil2100, The is no new features.23:22
flexiondotorgIt is just fixes.23:22
sil2100flexiondotorg: thanks for the log, looks good23:23
flexiondotorgsil2100, You're welcome.23:24
sil2100Will just double-check something and I'll sponsor it, one moment23:24
sil2100Ok, sync request submitted, it's in wily-proposed23:30
sil2100Now let me take a look at caja-extensions and what's up with that one...23:30
flexiondotorgsil2100, https://launchpadlibrarian.net/213463416/buildlog_ubuntu-wily-amd64.caja-extensions_1.10.0-1~wily1_BUILDING.txt.gz23:31
sil2100flexiondotorg: do you have a build-log for caja-extensions maybe? And maybe a list of changes introduced in this release? Since the changelog only mentions 'new upstream release' basically23:32
flexiondotorgsil2100, The issue here is that Caja (the MATE file manager) is already at version 1.1023:32
flexiondotorgsil2100, See up a couple of comment for build log.23:32
sil2100Thanks :)23:32
flexiondotorgsil2100, caja-extensions in the 15.10 are 1.8. So there are some significant regressions.23:33
flexiondotorgsil2100, See my comment in the sync request where I dicussed this (and other MATE 1.10 sync) with several devs.23:33
sil2100hm, indeed, and you mentioned that didrocks and Laney agreed on this sync, yes?23:33
flexiondotorgsil2100, Ultimately, Laney ack'd it.23:33
flexiondotorgsil2100, Yes, it was discussed with those in my comment.23:34
flexiondotorgsil2100, Here is a transcript - http://paste.ubuntu.com/12201355/23:35
sil2100flexiondotorg: yeah, I see the discussion, it seems to be fine - caja-extensions anyway is only seeded in ubuntu-mate23:39
flexiondotorgsil2100, Yep.23:39
sil2100Let me just do a final check and do iiit23:39
flexiondotorgSure. Thanks for help me out.23:39
flexiondotorgunblock mate-tweak/3.5.2-123:42
sil2100flexiondotorg: what worries me a bit with caja-extensions is that it failed to build for armhf in the PPA23:43
flexiondotorgsil2100, All the armhf stuff has failed in my PPAs for months.23:44
flexiondotorgBut always builds "for real".23:44
flexiondotorgI think something is not setup quite right in my PPAs.23:44
sil2100Indeed I see there's something strange going on, ok, let's sync it - if it fails building in -proposed then we'll know23:45
flexiondotorgYou can see there all the armhf fails in the PPA. But those that have made it to the archive all built correctly.23:45
sil2100But then we wouldn't be able to sync it anyway, not without patching, so +1 from me23:45
sil2100Yeah, just checked a few of those23:46
sil2100flexiondotorg: ok, both packages now in -proposed, there's not much more I can do now23:47
flexiondotorgsil2100, Many thanks!23:47
flexiondotorgunblock caja-extensions/1.10.0-123:48
infinityflexiondotorg: Alright, once the dpkg testsuite passes here, I'll upload this hideous hack.23:53
* infinity feels icky.23:55
flexiondotorginfinity, Go you :-)23:58

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