[03:36] <darkxst> infinity, the i386 is stuck  for some reason
[03:36] <darkxst> (ubuntu GNOME build)
[03:36] <infinity> darkxst: It's being sorted.
[03:37] <darkxst> infinity, k, thanks
[03:38] <infinity> darkxst: There's just two fresh builds going, so the amd64 one from two hours ago will invalidate.  Didn't notice that one, sorry.
[03:39] <darkxst> doesnt matter, not like anyone started testing it
[03:40] <infinity> darkxst: Right, these builds will actually show on the milestone now, I fixed that.  So, should be good to go in ~30m or whatever.
[03:44] <darkxst> hopefully its not to broken!
[04:04] <darkxst> infinity, can you increase the size limits on images, to get rid of the oversized messages? we have a nominal 1.5GB limit now
[04:07] <darkxst> atleast that is what our teams decided, clearly the servers don't know this yet!
[07:41] <flexiondotorg> infinity, Awake or sleeping?
[07:55] <flexiondotorg> didrocks, Can you do me a favour? Please can you update the ubuntu-mate-meta package?
[07:56] <didrocks> flexiondotorg: sure, doing that
[07:56] <didrocks> flexiondotorg: you pushed your changes to your seed?
[07:56] <flexiondotorg> I've got a couple of packages missing.
[07:56] <flexiondotorg> I have pushed seed changes.
[07:56] <flexiondotorg> didrocks, Thanks.
[07:56] <didrocks> flexiondotorg: yw, running the update :)
[07:56] <flexiondotorg> 3 new packages should turn up.
[07:56] <flexiondotorg> Cheers.
[07:56] <didrocks> I'll send you the diff
[07:57] <doko> Riddell, looks like a lot of my fixes for kde stuff were overridden again, and gcc-5 hangs again for kde issues :-/
[07:58] <flexiondotorg> Laney, unblock ubuntu-mate-meta/1.131
[08:09] <Laney> ok
[08:23] <didrocks> flexiondotorg: looking good to you? http://paste.ubuntu.com/12197794/ (got 4 new packages, not 3)
[08:23]  * flexiondotorg checks...
[08:25] <flexiondotorg> didrocks, Yes, that's exactly what I expected to see. Thank you.
[08:25] <didrocks> flexiondotorg: yw! uploading
[08:25] <didrocks> (done)
[08:26] <flexiondotorg> didrocks, Cheers. I've spent weeks negotiating with Debian Legal about the MATE documentation. More weeks adding it all in. Then forget to include the damn package in the seeds ;-)
[08:27] <didrocks> ahah ;)
[10:44] <sil2100> Hello release team! I would need to disable the importer for a short while
[11:02] <flexiondotorg> Laney, ^^^^^^^
[11:02] <Laney> yes?
[11:05] <flexiondotorg> Does the request from sil2100 mean anything to you?
[11:06] <sil2100> I'll reenable it in a moment, just the image copies take ages
[11:06] <sil2100> Delta creation is slow
[11:07] <sil2100> Laney: I can actually leave the importer running if you want, just my copy-image calls might block if from time to time
[11:07] <Laney> I don't think it affects me, do what you want :)
[11:08] <sil2100> Ok, thanks :) In case you guys need to re-spin some flavor images, I can enable the importer then if needed
[11:08] <sil2100> Since I usually disable it as otherwise it can block my copy-image from happening if it starts running
[11:16] <infinity> sil2100: The importer has no relation to flavour images (or anything other than system-image).
[11:19] <sil2100> Ah, right, ubuntu-core/ubuntu-personal are not affected by this, nvm then ;)
[11:19] <sil2100> infinity: btw. did you get my pokes with questions about britney?
[11:20] <infinity> sil2100: I did, I need to respond soon.  Sorry, was out all last week.
[11:20] <sil2100> infinity: no worries, just hope you got some sleep yesterday at least
[11:22] <infinity> sil2100: Sort of. :/
[11:26] <ogra_> flexiondotorg, importer means phones, snappy and the ubuntu-pocket-desktop that use system-image ... we developed  habit of announcing here when we disable it so in case i forget to switch it on again someone can poke me about it ... there is no other easy way to let others that depend on it know why or who disabled it
[11:27] <flexiondotorg> ogra_, Thanks for explaining :-)
[11:29] <infinity> ogra_: One could, I dunno, leave their name in a comment when they comment it out. ;)
[11:29] <ogra_> details :P
[11:31] <ogra_> infinity, if sil2100 announces it in advance i can intercept if i'm just waiting for an important snappy import ;)
[11:31] <ogra_> (not that i would though ...)
[11:31] <ogra_> (waiting i mean)
[11:31] <infinity> (At this point, I think you're just talking to yourself)
[11:32] <ogra_> haha
[11:32] <sil2100> ;)
[11:33] <infinity> I need to pick a new timezone for the week, mine's not working out.
[11:33] <infinity> Anyone have anything good to say about theirs?
[11:34] <ogra_> it is sunny and warm in mine
[11:34] <infinity> Beats smokey and warm in mine.
[11:34] <infinity> s/warm/hot/
[11:35] <infinity> It seems every tree in a 200km radius is committing suicide, with no regard whatsoever to my need to breathe.
[11:35] <infinity> s/to my/for my/ ... I need coffee.  Or sleep.  *flips coin*
[11:36] <Shinikake> EST is pretty nice this time of day.
[11:36]  * Shinikake sips a Brazilian blend.
[11:37] <ogra_> infinity, decaf *and* sleep ?
[11:37] <infinity> ogra_: I don't understand that first word.
[11:37] <ogra_> lol
[11:37] <infinity> ogra_: Silly German.
[11:39] <infinity> I guess it'll be a coffee and glibc rebase sort of morning.
[11:39] <infinity> No one wants me actually awake when I do that.
[11:40] <infinity> ogra_: Are you still of the opinion that no one in the phone world cares about wily (other than if we completely break it, of course)?
[11:40] <ogra_> infinity, i am ... but then i'm a snappy dude now :)
[11:41] <infinity> ogra_: ie, should I give them N days to play with glibc 2.22 and report back to me, or just trust the desktop/server/autopkgtest QA is good enough?
[11:41] <ogra_> wily wont end up on any phones ... and gcc5 breaks all store apps
[11:41] <infinity> Righto.  Then I'm inclined to not give them control over my QA. :P
[11:41] <ogra_> but people landing stuff in wily like to at least test on a semi working image ...
[11:42] <ogra_> so breaking it completelly might cause an outcry
[11:42] <ogra_> -l
[11:42] <infinity> ogra_: I have no intention of *breaking* glibc, I just don't want a repeat of when I landed 2.21 with, literally, one bug anyone cared about, and it spawned more meetings and specs than UDS.
[11:43] <ogra_> yeah, no worries ... phones are and stay vivid based
 Riddell: looks like it's much more than modemmanager: all of dbus looks messed up
[11:43] <Riddell> no upgrades I guess for beta 1 ^^
[11:43] <ogra_> Riddell, didnt it always ?
[11:44] <Riddell> ogra_: always mess up?
[11:44] <ogra_> dbus looking mssed up :)
[11:44] <ogra_> +e
[11:47] <flexiondotorg> Mirv any chance you can help me out?
[11:47] <flexiondotorg> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-mate-settings/+bug/1488930
[11:47] <flexiondotorg> Laney, unblock ubuntu-mate-settings/15.10.1
[11:50] <Laney> flexiondotorg: anyone on the team can do these, you don't need to ask me directly
[11:51] <Laney> but done
[13:25] <flexiondotorg> Laney, any chance you could sponsor a couple of uploads for me?
[13:55] <Laney> infinity: slangasek: stgraber: anyone: Any of you able to do the B1 publishing tomorrow in my stead?
[13:55] <Laney> I'll be at BF & probably not available
[13:56] <Laney> (but if I am then I'll let you know)
[14:06] <flexiondotorg> Laney, I am going to be unavailable from 13:30 till 15:00 tomorrow. Hopefully that won't impact my chasing.
[14:07] <flexiondotorg> Riddell, any chance you could sponsor a couple of packages for me please?
[14:09] <Riddell> flexiondotorg: in a bit, I'm in a meeting now
[14:10] <flexiondotorg> Riddell, Thanks. When you're free please take a look at:
[14:10] <flexiondotorg> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-mate-settings/+bug/1488930
[14:10] <flexiondotorg> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-mate-welcome/+bug/1488968
[15:11] <stokachu> infinity:just confirming you saw the openstack package upload?
[16:06] <coreycb> hello, can an archive admin please promote python-pymysql to main? this will help get some of our openstack packages out of dependency waits.
[16:11] <cjwatson> coreycb: I'll take care of it, and a few others I see in the queue
[16:11] <coreycb> cjwatson, thanks
[16:26] <cjwatson> coreycb: all done
[16:27] <coreycb> cjwatson, thanks, appreciate it
[17:47] <infinity> Laney: If all the paperwork is covered and I have to do nothing but pull the trigger, I'm down.  I don't have the time to crack any whips.
[18:40] <sil2100> Dear release team! The importer is now re-enabled and the daily-builds of rc-proposed (vivid touch) as well
[18:40] <sil2100> (just a heads up)
[18:46] <flexiondotorg> infinity, Please can you unblock ubuntu-mate-welcome/1.0.3
[19:23] <flexiondotorg> unblock ubuntu-mate-welcome/1.0.3
[19:23] <flexiondotorg> unblock mate-netbook/1.10.0-1
[19:24] <flexiondotorg> unblock eom/1.10.3-1
[19:24] <coreycb> hi, can an archive admin please promote python-taskflow and python-oslo.db to main?  that'll fix some of our openstack dependency waits.  also we have an FFE ( bug 1489096 ) for python-troveclient that is also needed to fix some openstack packages that are ftbfs.
[19:25] <infinity> flexiondotorg: Done * 3.
[19:25] <flexiondotorg> infinity, Thanks very much :-)
[19:26] <cyphermox> flexiondotorg: some of that wasn't built yet ;)
[19:27] <flexiondotorg> cyphermox, I learned yesterday that that doesn't matter :-)
[19:27] <infinity> coreycb: We can never sync that package from Debian unless Debian bumps the epoch in the version (which you could ask them nicely to do).
[19:27] <coreycb> infinity, I was wondering.. ok
[19:27] <cyphermox> flexiondotorg: well, it's just that sometimes things don't build :)
[19:27] <infinity> coreycb: Versions can't go back in time. :P
[19:27] <coreycb> infinity, yeah, I'll cancel it and update our package
[19:28] <infinity> coreycb: However, if you find that a merge ends up identical in every way except the version number, please do ask the Debian maintainer to add the epoch to paper over our oops.  If you ask nicely, I'm sure he won't mind.
[19:29] <coreycb> infinity, maybe that's an option.  I'll check with zigo.  thanks.
[19:30] <infinity> coreycb: Bleh.  There's exactly zero mention in the changelog as to WHY we even added the epoch.  Oh well.
[19:30] <infinity> coreycb: Our packaging seems quite different, but it would be nice for that to not be true.
[19:31] <coreycb> infinity, I've compared our package with debian's and it's ok to sync, assuming the version issue is settled
[19:32] <coreycb> infinity, yeah I think it was just a mistake
[19:37] <cjwatson> Initial release with an epoch *blink*
[19:37] <cjwatson> Probably should have been caught in NEW review.
[19:54] <infinity> cjwatson: It may have been a case of "our users have this installed already due to $random_ppa, and we want to support upgrades", but I don't think I'm the one who reviewed it.
[19:54] <infinity> (And if it was me, I don't remember. :P)
[22:18] <flexiondotorg> infinity, I see ubuntu-mate-settings failed to build while trying to parse the time?
[22:18] <flexiondotorg> infinity, Can you shed any light on this for me?
[22:20] <infinity> flexiondotorg: Huh.  Can't say I've ever seen that failure mode before. :P
[22:21] <flexiondotorg> infinity, dpkg-genchanges -S -sa works fine here.
[22:21] <infinity> flexiondotorg: I've retried it to see if it was some weird cosmic ray thing.
[22:21] <flexiondotorg> infinity, Thanks.
[22:21] <flexiondotorg> infinity, Just out of interest, what "time" is it parsing?
[22:22] <infinity> flexiondotorg: Dunno, you'd have to follow the code.
[22:24]  * flexiondotorg is suddenly very tired and thinks it might be time for bed ;-)
[22:26] <infinity> flexiondotorg: Huh, no, it really does hate you.
[22:26]  * infinity grabs the source.
[22:26]  * flexiondotorg is curious.
[22:27] <flexiondotorg> cyphermox, Sponsored that upload and encountered the same issue initially. But used a different machine to do the build in the end.
[22:27] <infinity> Err, that's not a good sign. :P
[22:28] <infinity> And, indeed, same thing here.
[22:29] <cyphermox> it's the changelog timestamp from the previous upload
[22:29] <flexiondotorg> OK.
[22:30] <infinity> dpkg-genchanges has no business parsing old entries..
[22:30] <infinity> Though, I don't see anything wrong with that one either.
[22:30] <cyphermox> *shrugs*  if I kept just the latest it was happy
[22:30] <flexiondotorg> debuild -S works on the machine I have access to.
[22:31] <flexiondotorg> The previous change log time stamp have July rather Jul and June rather than Jun.
[22:31] <infinity> flexiondotorg: Yuo're not using the latest dpkg, I assume.
[22:31] <flexiondotorg> Could that be the issue.
[22:31] <flexiondotorg> infinity, I'm on 15.04.
[22:31] <infinity> Oh, could be, yes.
[22:31] <flexiondotorg> This machine at least.
[22:31]  * infinity hacks a bit.
[22:31] <flexiondotorg> infinity, Thanks.
[22:37] <infinity> Okay, it's fixed in git.  Lemme rev dpkg and retry your build.
[22:38] <flexiondotorg> infinity, Many thanks.
[22:38] <infinity> flexiondotorg: You'll probably want to go and correct history sometime, but the new dpkg will actually tell you which lines are broken, making that easier.
[22:39] <infinity> flexiondotorg: Like so: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12202661/
[22:40] <flexiondotorg> infinity, Thanks.
[22:41]  * flexiondotorg is a bit puzzled why lintian is not spitting out errors when dpkg is clearly upset.
[22:42] <infinity> Oh, embarrassing, it trips on some of my lines in the dpkg changelog. :P
[22:42] <infinity> flexiondotorg: dpkg very recently switched to a newer/stricted timedate parsing module to drop a dependency (the new one is from perl itself, not a module).
[22:43] <infinity> flexiondotorg: Like many such things that Just Worked for ten years, changing it has been entertaining.
[22:43] <flexiondotorg> :-D
[22:43] <flexiondotorg> infinity, Any chance you could sponsor a sync for me?
[22:44] <flexiondotorg> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1489185
[22:44] <infinity> Hrm.  Not convinced the new implementation is quite sane yet either.
[22:44] <flexiondotorg> I have a howling bug in mate-tweak 3.5.1
[22:44] <flexiondotorg> So I had 3.5.2 uploaded to Debian unstable earlier.
[23:03] <flexiondotorg> infinity, I realise you're busy but if you can find the time to sponsor the following syncs I'd be most grateful.
[23:04] <flexiondotorg> infinity, Both fix signifcant issues I'd really prefer to not be in 15.10 Beta 1 tomorrow.
[23:04] <flexiondotorg> mate-tweak      https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1489185
[23:04] <flexiondotorg> caja-extensions https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1489186
[23:05] <infinity> flexiondotorg: Hold on, I'm still fixing dpkg.  The rabbit hole went deeper. :P
[23:05] <flexiondotorg> infinity, Oh. Sorry to hear that.
[23:14] <sil2100> flexiondotorg: I could sponsor those, but it's already a bit late here, not sure if I wouldn't fall asleep before doing that
[23:15] <flexiondotorg> sil2100, If you're able to stave off sleep I'd really appreciate.
[23:15] <flexiondotorg> sil2100, I'd like to respin the isos first thing so I can run through the tests.
[23:15] <flexiondotorg> sil2100, Where are you?
[23:16] <sil2100> flexiondotorg: let me see what I can do here, maybe I can pick it up before infinity has time - since those are universe packages
[23:16] <sil2100> Poland, EU
[23:16] <flexiondotorg> sil2100, England.
[23:16] <flexiondotorg> So, yes. Past your bed time ;-)
[23:20] <sil2100> flexiondotorg: did you check if the mate-tweak builds correctly on wily? Do you have any build-logs handy?
[23:21] <flexiondotorg> sil2100, One sec...
[23:22]  * sil2100 wonders if this requires a FFe
[23:22] <flexiondotorg> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/215553291/buildlog_ubuntu-wily-amd64.mate-tweak_3.5.2-1~wily1.1_BUILDING.txt.gz
[23:22] <sil2100> In theory new upstream versions should, but on the other hand it has only bugfixes it seems?
[23:22] <flexiondotorg> sil2100, The is no new features.
[23:22] <flexiondotorg> It is just fixes.
[23:23] <sil2100> flexiondotorg: thanks for the log, looks good
[23:24] <flexiondotorg> sil2100, You're welcome.
[23:24] <sil2100> Will just double-check something and I'll sponsor it, one moment
[23:30] <sil2100> Ok, sync request submitted, it's in wily-proposed
[23:30] <sil2100> Now let me take a look at caja-extensions and what's up with that one...
[23:31] <flexiondotorg> sil2100, https://launchpadlibrarian.net/213463416/buildlog_ubuntu-wily-amd64.caja-extensions_1.10.0-1~wily1_BUILDING.txt.gz
[23:32] <sil2100> flexiondotorg: do you have a build-log for caja-extensions maybe? And maybe a list of changes introduced in this release? Since the changelog only mentions 'new upstream release' basically
[23:32] <flexiondotorg> sil2100, The issue here is that Caja (the MATE file manager) is already at version 1.10
[23:32] <flexiondotorg> sil2100, See up a couple of comment for build log.
[23:32] <sil2100> Thanks :)
[23:33] <flexiondotorg> sil2100, caja-extensions in the 15.10 are 1.8. So there are some significant regressions.
[23:33] <flexiondotorg> sil2100, See my comment in the sync request where I dicussed this (and other MATE 1.10 sync) with several devs.
[23:33] <sil2100> hm, indeed, and you mentioned that didrocks and Laney agreed on this sync, yes?
[23:33] <flexiondotorg> sil2100, Ultimately, Laney ack'd it.
[23:34] <flexiondotorg> sil2100, Yes, it was discussed with those in my comment.
[23:35] <flexiondotorg> sil2100, Here is a transcript - http://paste.ubuntu.com/12201355/
[23:39] <sil2100> flexiondotorg: yeah, I see the discussion, it seems to be fine - caja-extensions anyway is only seeded in ubuntu-mate
[23:39] <flexiondotorg> sil2100, Yep.
[23:39] <sil2100> Let me just do a final check and do iiit
[23:39] <flexiondotorg> Sure. Thanks for help me out.
[23:42] <flexiondotorg> unblock mate-tweak/3.5.2-1
[23:43] <sil2100> flexiondotorg: what worries me a bit with caja-extensions is that it failed to build for armhf in the PPA
[23:44] <flexiondotorg> sil2100, All the armhf stuff has failed in my PPAs for months.
[23:44] <flexiondotorg> But always builds "for real".
[23:44] <flexiondotorg> I think something is not setup quite right in my PPAs.
[23:45] <flexiondotorg> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mate-dev/+archive/ubuntu/crazy-mate/+packages
[23:45] <sil2100> Indeed I see there's something strange going on, ok, let's sync it - if it fails building in -proposed then we'll know
[23:45] <flexiondotorg> You can see there all the armhf fails in the PPA. But those that have made it to the archive all built correctly.
[23:45] <sil2100> But then we wouldn't be able to sync it anyway, not without patching, so +1 from me
[23:46] <sil2100> Yeah, just checked a few of those
[23:47] <sil2100> flexiondotorg: ok, both packages now in -proposed, there's not much more I can do now
[23:47] <sil2100> :)
[23:47] <flexiondotorg> sil2100, Many thanks!
[23:48] <sil2100> yw!
[23:48] <flexiondotorg> unblock caja-extensions/1.10.0-1
[23:53] <infinity> flexiondotorg: Alright, once the dpkg testsuite passes here, I'll upload this hideous hack.
[23:55]  * infinity feels icky.
[23:58] <flexiondotorg> infinity, Go you :-)