[00:00] <TJ-> linuxnewbie22: If I recall correctly, on the FreeDos menu, you have to chose the drop to command line, or don't load drivers option - can't remember what it is, but don't chose the CD option
[00:00] <linuxnewbie22> pettypierx: My bios driver is a .exe file if that answers your question.
[00:00] <TJ-> pettypierx:  it's a real-mode DOS environment that is required to use the Dell Flash tools to do BIOS upgrades. Dell don't provide a flash tool for many of their systems - mostly only for servers
[00:01] <LambdaComplex> linuxnewbie22: It doesn't answer his question.
[00:01] <eclectichedgehog> acmeraptor, if its for remote desktop, have you looked at x2go?
[00:01] <LambdaComplex> .exe can be either a DOS executable or a NTFS executable.
[00:02] <TJ-> linuxnewbie22: you create the FreeDos bootable image on the USB (use 'dd', 'cat', 'cp' for that), then mount the USb file-system and copy to it the flash updater and BIOS image if it is separate, unmount, reboot, boot from USB
[00:02] <pettypierx> linuxnewbie22: you need to make a bootable dos usb with that file on. Then navigate to the file. It's similar to terminal on linux
[00:02] <linuxnewbie22> pettypierx: It's a dos exe.
[00:03] <acmeraptor> eclectichedgehog: i have not. x11vnc works just fine for me, when i leave myself logged on.  does x2go function like tightvnc?
[00:03] <eclectichedgehog> acmeraptor, pretty much i think, i have heard good stuff about it.
[00:04] <linuxnewbie22> pettypierx: I got freedos command line to work, but I didn't know how to navigate to the file and run it, and I read the wiki on it.
[00:04] <pettypierx> linuxnewbie22: if RUFUS works in wine
[00:04] <pettypierx> linuxnewbie22: www.howtogeek.com/136987/how-to-create-a-bootable-dos-usb-drive
[00:05] <acmeraptor> eclectichedgehog: i'll read up on it, thanks!  tightvnc was the only thing mentioned so far on creating a generic xsession, not just sharing one
[00:05] <eclectichedgehog> acmeraptor, np
[00:05] <linuxnewbie22> pettypierx: I used unetbootin, which works on linux. I don't think that rufus works on linux.
[00:06] <ainz> rufus only work with windows
[00:06] <LambdaComplex> dd and possibly installing grub4dos manually would probably work
[00:06] <linuxnewbie22> TJ-: I got freedos to work and the command line came up, but I didn't know what commands to use even though I read the wiki on it.
[00:06] <linuxnewbie22> TJ-: But i'm going to try wine. I just installed it.
[00:07] <plytro> linuxnewbie22: can't you get a dos boot image from "somewhere" and write that to a disc
[00:07] <pettypierx> linuxnewbie22: www.chtaube.eu/computers/freedos/bootable-usb
[00:07] <TJ-> linuxnewbie22: if you've put the flash executable on there, do "dir" to list files to be sure, then run the flash program by name
[00:08] <TJ-> linuxnewbie22: did you start from the fdboot.img ?
[00:08] <linuxnewbie22> TJ-: No, but should I download fdboot.img and place it on the flashdrive?
[00:09] <pettypierx> linuxnewbie22: near the bottom it says he uses it to do bios updates.
[00:09] <pettypierx> www.chtaube.eu/computers/freedos/bootable-usb
[00:09] <TJ-> linuxnewbie22: no, follow the guide pettypierx pointed you to... " FreeDOS-1.1-memstick-2-256M.img.bz2" looks like the one to choose
[00:10] <linuxnewbie22> TJ-: Sure, I used that guide but unfortunately it didn't work out for me.
[00:10] <TJ-> linuxnewbie22: we'll follow you through with it to make sure it works
[00:11] <linuxnewbie22> Okay thanks guys!
[00:11] <TJ-> linuxnewbie22: is it BIOS 2.5.3 you're installing?
[00:12] <linuxnewbie22> TJ-: I downloaded the image file, but I downloaded the 2048mb one.
[00:13] <TJ-> linuxnewbie22: OK, but there was no need. You only need a very small amount of space for the flash tool
[00:13] <linuxnewbie22> TJ-: That's correct, my BIOS 2.5.3 is from 2007, but the dell website says there is a version from 2011.
[00:14] <linuxnewbie22> TJ-: Okay, I downloaded the 256mb one.
[00:14] <TJ-> linuxnewbie22: before you waste the effort. If there were any difference in the 2 BIOS image, Dell would increment the BIOS version. The "Last Updated" date is for the documentation on the web page
[00:15] <TJ-> linuxnewbie22: can you show us what this reports "dmesg | grep DMI"
[00:15] <linuxnewbie22> dmesg|grep DMI
[00:16] <TJ-> linuxnewbie22: copy that command to a terminal and run it
[00:16] <linuxnewbie22> TJ-: [    0.000000] DMI: Dell Inc.                 Dell DXP061                  /0WG855, BIOS 2.5.3  11/22/2007
[00:17] <TJ-> linuxnewbie22: I'd make a large bet the installed BIOS is identical to the 2.5.3 on the web-site.
[00:18] <linuxnewbie22> TJ-: Yes, it must be the latest update and I simply thought there was a 2011 version for it.
[00:18] <TJ-> linuxnewbie22: I've been caught out by those "Last Updated" dates myself... gets yours hopes up until you figure it out :)
[00:19] <TJ-> linuxnewbie22: were you hoping to fix a particular problem, or just trying to stay up-to-date
[00:19] <linuxnewbie22> TJ-: Have you ever seen a machine go into power save mode in the middle of booting up?
[00:20] <TJ-> linuxnewbie22: what do you mean by power-save mode?
[00:20] <linuxnewbie22> TJ-: Well, you could also call it hibernating I think.
[00:21] <TJ-> linuxnewbie22: how far into the boot sequence does it get... is Linux kernel loaded at that point?
[00:22] <linuxnewbie22> TJ-: I can check, to look at what the code says on the screen but a few lines of code and then it hibernates.
[00:22] <hellohellohello_> I need help
[00:22] <hellohellohello_> I can't install anything or update anything
[00:23] <linuxnewbie22> TJ-: But when I press the power button, it finishes what it's doing, however it's a blank screen and then the login manager for lubuntu appears.
[00:23] <TJ-> linuxnewbie22: if it genuinely goes into hibernation that would be a software command
[00:24] <TJ-> linuxnewbie22: if it isn't an uncontrolled crash/power-off, then "/var/log/kern.log" will contain information on what happened
[00:24] <linuxnewbie22> TJ-: Thanks, I'll go see what it says.
[00:25] <hellohellohello_> how can I update my list of repos?
[00:25] <TJ-> linuxnewbie22: if you use these commands you can share it" "sudo apt-get install pastebinit"   and then "sudo pastebinit /var/log/kern.log"
[00:26] <linuxnewbie22> TJ-: Okay, I'll share it.
[00:28] <linuxnewbie22> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12196073/
[00:28] <linuxnewbie22> TJ-: A couple lines down it mentions the BIOS
[00:30] <Bashing-om> hellohellohello_: Share with us the outputs of terminal commands ' sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get upgrade ' in the pastebin.
[00:32] <TJ-> linuxnewbie22: OK, I see from that kern.log that on average there's an uncommanded crash after approx 32 seconds. There is no commanded hibernate/suspend at all.
[00:33] <hellohellohello_> Bashing-om: how do I pastebin that
[00:34] <TJ-> linuxnewbie22: Experience tells me there's a hardware problem. Further, I'd strongly suspect a power starvation issue. I'd go so far as to be 80% certain the cause is Electrolytic capacitors either in the ATX power supply, or on the Mortherboard, are failing due to leakage and cannot hold charge. When sudden demands are placed on them they fail, and the power supply shuts down.
[00:35] <linuxnewbie22> TJ-: My Dad mentioned that to me. I bet you're right about that.
[00:35] <Bashing-om> hellohellohello_: 'sudo apt-get install pasteninit ; sudo apt-get update | pastebinit ; sudo apt-get upgrade | pastbinit ' . The result is a URL in your terminal. Pass that link back here in the channel .
[00:35] <linuxnewbie22> TJ-: He suspected their could be a problem like that.
[00:35] <TJ-> linuxnewbie22: if you're confident with a soldering iron, or know someone who is, have all the Electrolytic capacitors examined for bulging tops and/or leakage around their base, and replace if required. Usually costs a few pennies per capacitor
[00:37] <TJ-> linuxnewbie22: the key thing if you replace capacitors is to get good quality replacements (often advertised as 'made in Japan'), and make sure as well as having the same electrical rating they are the same physical diameter and have same pin pitch so their legs fit the PCB vias (holes).
[00:37] <hellohellohello> sorry, X crashed
[00:37] <hellohellohello> Bashing-om: what did you say
[00:38] <linuxnewbie22> TJ-: Thank you, I'll write everything you've said about the capacitors so I don't forget.
[00:38] <Bashing-om> hellohellohello:  'sudo apt-get install pasteninit ; sudo apt-get update | pastebinit ; sudo apt-get upgrade | pastbinit ' . The result is a URL in your
[00:38] <Bashing-om>                     terminal. Pass that link back here in the channel .
[00:38] <TJ-> linuxnewbie22: Good luck with it... it's a very satisfying repair to do :)
[00:39] <hellohellohello> Bashing-om: I can't install anything I said
[00:39] <hellohellohello> apt-get doesn't work
[00:39] <hellohellohello> I can't connect
[00:40] <Bashing-om> hellohellohello: Does the internet connection work on the subject machine ' ping -c3 ubuntu.com' ?
[00:42] <linuxnewbie22> TJ-: Haha, I tried to copy and paste what you said and then pidgin and my word processor crashed when I clicked save. Could you please send me the last few things you said about soldering?
[00:43] <linuxnewbie22> TJ-: nevermind, I logged it to disk
[00:43] <mdbrim_> any one around want to help me setup my ubuntu server with ipv6?  comcast just gave me an ipv6 address and i can't for the life of me get my server to be seen by the outside world!
[00:45] <Hpaman> curious does anybody know if there is functions for traversal of the swap partition/files on the swap is this another type of filesystem or is it simple ext file system that any ext file system read/writer can traverse
[00:45] <linuxnewbie22> Tj-: Thank you for your help!
[00:50] <TJ-> Hpaman: swap is simply pages of RAM stored on disk
[00:51] <Hpaman> never mind stupid question man pages of swapon , swapoff, and mkswap cleared this up for me it can be a volume partition, whole drive , or just a file zeroed out with dd to hold the data
[00:53] <Hpaman> so any file system that is already part of linux or formated by linux to host the page/swap file is good enough... and swapoff disables this feature weather through the command line program or thru swap functions in c
[00:55] <Hpaman> curious what your guys thought on turning swapoff for all swap devices for your running os's obviously page allocator can only uses main memory for storage of process but how much is this an issue... how often is your physical memory going to by closes to full?
[00:58] <Bashing-om> Hpaman: Generally, IF you have 8 Gigs of ram or more ( and do not hibernate ) AND no heavy duty number crunching, one can do without swap .
[00:59] <p0pr0ck5> getting rid of swap ties the kernels hands a bit when it comes to allocating memory for page cache- its certainly doable, but if youre running in a disk IO-intensive environment, you do lose the ability to swap out low-priority pages for more page cache
[01:00] <Hpaman> ya i even have this dvd live os's that i am runing with no swap and free and vmstat give me that i still have about 40ish %
[01:01] <Hpaman> which is still significant and i am running testdisk and other intensive process so 8 gig's must go along way
[01:03] <p0pr0ck5> to clarify, i dont quite mean IO-intensive applications, but rather accessing many different files, as the kernel will put these into page cache as it sees fit/has room. obvs. context is important
[01:12] <excesseye> :q
[01:13] <guest101> please help, i can't play hd videos on youtube
[01:14] <guest101> please help, i can't play hd videos on youtube
[01:15] <hellohellohello> help
[01:15] <bazhang> patience guest101
[01:15] <hellohellohello> I can't use apt-get
[01:16] <hellohellohello> Err http://extras.ubuntu.com raring/main Sources   404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.92.152 80]
[01:16] <guest101> bazhang: youtube is going too slow in hd
[01:16] <hellohellohello> do I need to update my sources.list file?ç
[01:18] <radiel892> hellohellohello, i usually do that with "sudo apt-get update" then try again
[01:18] <guest101> please help, i can't play hd videos on youtube
[01:20] <hellohellohello> radiel892: doesn't work
[01:22] <radiel892> hellohellohello, by that you mean the update runs through but your installation fails again?
[01:22] <cfhowlett> s
[01:22] <hellohellohello> radiel892: no, I get errors
[01:25] <guest101> youtube can't play in hd, please help
[01:25] <guest101> getting grey hair here
[01:25] <scott__111> guest, we need more information
[01:26] <scott__111> specs, browser etc
[01:26] <squinty> hellohellohello,   http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/   it would appear that there is no raring avaiable at the http site you posted.
[01:26] <guest101> scott__111: alright scott, i am using lubuntu 15.04 and i like it, yet i didn't seem to get those video accelerators working
[01:27] <scott__111> cpu, memory, gpu
[01:27] <hellohellohello> squinty: then what should I do?
[01:27] <tgm4883> !raring
[01:27] <tgm4883> that's super old
[01:27] <hellohellohello> tgm4883: I can't update because I can't use apt-get dist-upgrade ;|
[01:27] <guest101> scott__111: is there a bot who could help, i don't know by mind
[01:27] <tgm4883> !eol
[01:28] <tgm4883> hellohellohello: ready that ^
[01:29] <ash_m> what is $_ mean?
[01:29] <ash_m> last used argument?
[01:30] <guest101> youtube can't play in hd, please help
[01:30] <bazhang> guest101, you never gave all the reuired info
[01:31] <guest101> oh well, i dont know how
[01:31] <bazhang> guest101, simply repeating the same line without any details will get zero results
[01:31] <scott__111> what graphics card do you have?
[01:31] <guest101> i know that, wait a sec
[01:31] <bazhang> guest101, all the info, in a single line
[01:32] <guest101> Mobile Intel® 915GM/GMS, 910GML Express Chipset
[01:32] <hellohellohello> what's a good distro for a netbook?
[01:32] <hellohellohello> ubuntu is kind of laggy
[01:32] <bazhang> guest101, try downloading it and play in mplayer
[01:33] <bazhang> hellohellohello, lubuntu
[01:33] <lucyfurnice> I want to do something artistic with salvaged computers running minimal distrobutions of linux, I was thinking RAM could be like money so I could simulate an economy with a few computers performing tasks of exchange across a small ring network.
[01:33] <lucyfurnice> Anyone have any good ideas for a hard drive?
[01:34] <bazhang> lucyfurnice, offtopic here
[01:34] <bazhang> try ##hardware
[01:34] <lucyfurnice> sure.
[01:34] <lucyfurnice> Thanks 3>
[01:34] <bazhang> welcome
[01:37] <guest101> bazhang: downloading a movie... cant find something shorter in hdž
[01:37] <guest101> bazhang: downloading a movie... cant find something shorter in hd*
[01:38] <fwolf_> and wtf smuxi is automatically adding #ubuntu as auto-connect channel .. tsk
[01:40] <guest101> this is 10 years old laptop, yet it can run hd (720p) videos on windows xp... so if i can make it work in lubuntu, it would be awesome
[01:45] <guest101> i spent like "100 days total time played" exploring linux :)
[01:47] <guest101> united against unity
[01:48] <bazhang> stay on topic please guest101
[01:49] <guest101> bazhang: alright, tested 720p movie in gnome mplayer
[01:49] <guest101> sound is speeding up, videos is running fine
[01:52] <guest101> [03:32] <bazhang> guest101, try downloading it and play in mplayer
[01:52] <guest101> sound is speeding up, video is running fine
[01:52] <guest101> youtube hd not working
[01:52] <guest101> lubuntu 15.04
[01:53] <bazhang> guest101, I am surprised such old hw can get that at all
[01:53] <OerHeks> youtube calls 720p HD
[01:54] <guest101> bazhang: you should see pepermint os, lubuntu spinoff, i felt like i just bought a new pc
[01:55] <arooni-mobile> hi folks.  ubuntu 14.04LTS here.  i recently installed some programs like gnome-shell and now the 'theme' in windows like xchat and open/save dialogs seems like its from the 90's.  how can i get back my more modern theme that came preinstalled with ubuntu 14.04?  photo of what i'm talking about here: http://imgur.com/DyaZoFN
[01:55] <cfhowlett> arooni-mobile, go into your settings / appearance
[01:55] <arooni-mobile> cfhowlett, there
[01:55] <arooni-mobile> now?
[01:55] <bazhang> guest101, you should look the peppermint support channels for that
[01:55] <cfhowlett> arooni-mobile, play around.  you'll find it.
[01:56] <bazhang> !alis | guest101
[01:56] <guest101> im currently on lubuntu
[01:56] <guest101> pure lubuntu
[01:56] <arooni-mobile> cfhowlett, i dont see what i'm supposed to find here
[01:56] <OerHeks> guest101, ubuntu forks are useless topics here
[01:56] <bazhang> guest101, perhaps that the best lubuntu can do esp with that very old video card
[01:56] <delaine> guest101 do you have flash installed ?
[01:57] <guest101> well, you could try to help, it doesnt seem hard but i am newbish even for easy things
[01:57] <delaine> guest101 better off joining lubuntu
[01:57] <delaine> it's just different packages are in ubuntu and lubuntu
[01:58] <guest101> delaine: yes, got flash
[01:58] <delaine> it's common to be reffered to local chat distro for support
[01:58] <ViperChief> Depends on what's going on. A lot of the packages are the same.
[01:58] <delaine> it's not that we cant help it's not the chat for lubuntu
[01:59] <OerHeks> delaine, not true
[01:59] <delaine> fair
[02:00] <OerHeks> no chat for that other funny distro he mentioned
[02:00] <bazhang> pepamint
[02:00] <delaine> OerHeks: it's what happened to me once
 guest101: you would think that, and, if all the entities involved, want to promise you support for linux, as they have for windows XP, you can have that playback.. but, since they dont, it actually may not be realistic
[02:05] <guest101> Gates loves him.
[02:09] <bazhang> guest101, no need whatsoever to paste that here, keep the chit chat to #ubuntu-offtopic as here is support and support only
[02:21] <rohan241> hello all
[02:21] <rohan241> are there any extra drivers that need to be installed for GTS 450 in elementary os
[02:22] <xangua> ask elementary
[02:22] <rohan241> ok
[02:24] <arooni-mobile> whats the best clipboard manager for ubuntu?
[02:24] <notaeon> arooni-mobile: no best, whatever you like the most
[02:24] <notaeon> !best
[02:25] <arooni-mobile> usually theres a generally accepted "favorite"  that may not be the best
[02:25] <arooni-mobile> thats what im looking for
[02:25] <cfhowlett> arooni-mobile, look in the software center.  "favorite" is the default.
[02:27] <xangua> arooni-mobile: if you use unity make sure it supports in dicator, I use giodon
[02:27] <xangua> qclipboard looks good too
[02:37] <oaulakh> how to mount img file in or extract img file in ubuntu?
[02:39] <Jordan_U> oaulakh: There are many possible things that an "img" file could be. Where did you get this file? How was it created? What does it contain?
[02:40] <oaulakh> i know nothing all i know i need its internal file
[02:41] <Jordan_U> oaulakh: You must know more than you have said. Who gave you this file? What do you need its "internal file" for?
[02:41] <cfhowlett> oaulakh, no detailz >>> no helpz
[02:41] <WireGhost> join #html
[02:41] <oaulakh> i need its internal files for root my android
[02:42] <oaulakh> and when i fdisk -l file.img its shows img doesn't contain valid partition table
[02:42] <Jordan_U> oaulakh: And where did you get this file from? Are there directions your're following? If so, please post a link to them.
[02:43] <Jordan_U> oaulakh: You will also probably want help from #android-root at some point.
[02:43] <oaulakh> no there's no tutorial or someting
[02:43] <bazhang> where was the img dl'd from oaulakh
[02:43] <oaulakh> i did but all get nothing
[02:43] <oaulakh> :(
[02:43] <Jordan_U> oaulakh: This is the last time I will ask before quiting you for 10 minutes. Where did you get this file from?
[02:43] <oaulakh> i get this from xda developers simple
[02:44] <Wug> you're not supposed to extract it
[02:44] <oaulakh> #android-root said push that file.img in android with heimdall flash --recovery file.img
[02:45] <oaulakh> but  heimdall showing error in ubuntu :(
[02:45] <Jordan_U> oaulakh: Great. So do that. Don't try to "mount" it.
[02:45] <Wug> maybe it's corrupt, try redownloading
[02:45] <oaulakh> so they saying ubuntu have problems and i have to extract img file for using it with heimdall-frontend
[02:45] <xangua> oaulakh: did you install heimdall from ubuntu repositories¿ what ubuntu release? what device? what is your end goal?
[02:45] <oaulakh> i did but everytime same
[02:46] <oaulakh> yes i install heimdall from ubuntu
[02:46] <Jordan_U> oaulakh: Please join #android-root and re-state your problem there. I try to help you with the Ubuntu side of things there, but this seems very much more a question of how to root an android phone than of how to use Ubuntu.
[02:49] <lotuspsychje> !info heimdall-flash-frontend
[02:50] <oaulakh> but let me show you whats error from heimdall. they said its something wrong with ubuntu libusbx http://pastebin.com/ugpjsS9j
[02:50] <oaulakh> lotuspsychje, http://pastebin.com/ugpjsS9j
[02:51] <lotuspsychje> oaulakh: tell us your device first like xangua asked please
[02:51] <oaulakh> gt5330
[02:52] <lotuspsychje> oaulakh: did you unlock your device to developer mode?
[02:52] <oaulakh> yup
[02:52] <oaulakh> like ub debuging right
[02:52] <oaulakh> yes i did it
[02:52] <oaulakh> and my phone is in dowload mode
[02:52] <_Roc> can someone help me with terminal commands
[02:52] <somsip> _Roc: which ones?
[02:53] <_Roc> just to check my network, connected devices etc..
[02:53] <Wug> oaulakh: are you running the flasher as root
[02:53] <lotuspsychje> oaulakh: try this maybe: https://github.com/Benjamin-Dobell/Heimdall/issues/107
[02:54] <cfhowlett> oaulakh, all, *ALL* of the android questions are best addressed in android channels.
[02:54] <oaulakh> Wug, yes
[02:54] <Wug> _Roc: lspci to list devices and ifconfig to list network configuration
[02:54] <oaulakh> cfhowlett, i did but they i have problem on ubuntu side http://pastebin.com/ugpjsS9j
[02:56] <Wug> oaulakh: that log file is basically useless to us
[02:56] <oaulakh> ok
[02:56] <Wug> the only useful bit is the errno value, which is "connection timed out (110)"
[02:56] <_Roc> thank you, any idea why ssh would'nt be working for me?
[02:56] <oaulakh> should i print pit file?
[02:56] <oaulakh> ok
[02:56] <oaulakh> what about libusbx?
[02:57] <Wug> and that doesnt give me any idea what might be wrong, unless you had like... unplugged the device while flashing or something
[02:57] <lotuspsychje> oaulakh: whats your heimdall version?
[02:57] <Wug> _Roc: are you behind a firewall that blocks it?
[02:57] <Wug> corporate networks often block ssh
[02:57] <Wug> schools, libraries
[02:57] <oaulakh> lotuspsychje, v1.4.0
[02:58] <_Roc> no sir, none of those
[02:58] <somsip> _Roc: define 'not working'. TRy ssh -vvv to get verbose output that might tell you what is not working
[02:58] <Wug> are you trying to ssh in or out
[02:58] <lotuspsychje> oaulakh: from what i read on forums, must be a heimdall bug that has been fixxed in 1.4.1 maybe try?
[02:59] <Jordan_U> oaulakh: You are not giving a useful description of the "problem with Ubuntu". Please either quote from your discussion on #android-root directly, ask in #android-root again so that I can see what the "Ubuntu problem" is, or both.
[02:59] <oaulakh> but i install heimdall from ubuntu 20 hours before and u saying 1.4.1 ?
[02:59] <_Roc> no matter the ssh command i use, it only gives me the same ssh usage explanation output
[02:59] <somsip> _Roc: which is what? Use a pastebin please
[02:59] <Wug> that would imply you're entering an invalid command
[03:00] <lotuspsychje> oaulakh: i never used it myself, but ive read some issues with version 1.4.0
[03:00] <Wug> what command are you using
[03:00] <oaulakh> Jordan_U, its libusbx
[03:00] <Jordan_U> oaulakh: That is not an answer. Please do exactly as I have requested.
[03:01] <oaulakh> ok
[03:01] <Jordan_U> oaulakh: If you need to paste a large portion of the discussion from #android-root, please use http://pastebin.ubuntu.com .
[03:02] <oaulakh> ok
[03:04] <_Roc> fairly new to IRC so my bad - http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/12196730/
[03:06] <somsip> _Roc: use ssh -vvv user@machine
[03:07] <somsip> _Roc: same as what you were trying previously to connect, but with -vvv in there as well
[03:08] <arooni-mobile> i recently followed http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/128220/how-do-i-set-my-dns-on-ubuntu-14-04 in order to get google DNS set up (att dns is awful).  ive restarted and would like to test DNS resolution.  can anyone tell me how i can do this?  doing nm-tool shows google DNS but when i dig a domain i've not been to i see resolution is handled only by 127.0.0.1
[03:08] <xangua> arooni-mobile: clic on your network icon and edit conections
[03:09] <arooni-mobile> xangua, my dns settings arent listed there
[03:09] <Wug> arooni-mobile: if you run "nslookup" at the command line with no arguments it should use the system's default dns server
[03:10] <Wug> alternatively, you could use tcpdump to capture udp packets on port 53, and just examine where they're going.
[03:11] <arooni-mobile> Wug, i think its only usuing 127.0.0.1
[03:11] <arooni-mobile> so does that mean its not using googles dns?
[03:12] <_Roc> somsip thank you for your time, Wug you as well
[03:12] <Jordan_U> arooni-mobile: That it is "using" 127.0.0.1 means only that Ubuntu is configured to be running its own DNS server locally, which then simply forwards requests to another DNS server (probably google's).
[03:14] <arooni-mobile> Jordan_U, how do i know *where* ubuntu is sending those dns resolutions?
[03:16] <xangua>  (22:09:26) arooni-mobile: xangua, my dns settings arent listed there . yes they are http://imgur.com/TjjeQgg
[03:16] <arooni-mobile> i mean they are, but google dns isnt listed
[03:17] <xangua> then just put google's ¿
[03:17] <xangua> why would they be listed¿
[03:17] <xangua> the solution I give you is actually in the question you posted arooni-mobile , and under it it's the one marked as "best answer"
[03:18] <xangua> "I found out that you can change the nameservers that dnsmasq uses by adding the following lines to /etc/dnsmasq.conf:"
[03:18] <arooni-mobile> its really confusing to know whether the dns is actually being resolved by google dns
[03:18] <arooni-mobile> as everything i tried when i tried that solution resolved to 127.0.0.1
[03:19] <arooni-mobile> and i was confused at how ubuntu's dns caching server was sending requets in the event it couldnt resolve an entry locally
[03:19] <plytro> I jump networks a lot and dnsmasq was screwing me up
[03:20] <plytro> i just disabled it
[03:21] <arooni-mobile> whats the benefits/drawbacks to dnsmasq?
[03:21] <plytro> its a caching dns server in front of your configured servers
[03:21] <plytro> "faster" domain name resoltuion for more frequently visited sites?
[03:22] <arooni-mobile> is it any faster than google
[03:22] <arooni-mobile> im getting an average of < 50ms from google's dns
[03:23] <plytro> its instant
[03:23] <plytro> its on your machine
[03:23] <plytro> so yeah its faster
[03:23] <plytro> for known domains
[03:23] <plytro> new domains still go out to google
[03:24] <arooni-mobile> how can i test to see if its being used?
[03:24] <arooni-mobile>  the important thing for me was getting off at&t's dns resolution
[03:24] <plytro> you're resolving from 127.0.0.1
[03:24] <Jordan_U> arooni-mobile: Cached requests should be 1 ms or less most of the time. Dig will tell you how long a request took. Try "dig zombo.com" twice. The first time it should show about 50ms, the second it should show 1ms.
[03:24] <plytro> you're using it
[03:25] <plytro> my problem was jumping between public and private networks and having stuff cached when I needed the external vs internal name resolution
[03:25] <plytro> it was holding on too long
[03:25] <arooni-mobile> Jordan_U, well i tried putting google's dns servers in /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head ... and running sudo resolvconf -u ... and now i dont think im routing anything to the local caching server
[03:26] <arooni-mobile> both times ns lookup was 50ms
[03:26] <Jordan_U> arooni-mobile: If you add DNS servers to resolv.conf then they will be used directly, not through the bind9 caching server.
[03:26] <arooni-mobile> so maybe i should go back to using the second solution listed; adding a prepend to etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf
[03:27] <arooni-mobile> its just hard to know when you're getting a response from localhost if its even using the google servers
[03:29] <Jordan_U> arooni-mobile: tcpdump / wireshark is a solution to that problem, though clearly there must be a more straightforward way of verifying this (that I don't know).
[03:36] <GAM002> anybody tried Oracle Vm virtual box on ubuntu 14.04? if yes how good does it perform?and got any better suggetions?
[03:37] <dm14995d> seems to work great for me
[03:37] <dm14995d> actually, i find ubuntu works best in virtualbox, compared to other distros
[03:37] <GAM002> dm14995d: You use it?
[03:37] <dm14995d> I use it almost everyday
[03:37] <GAM002> on ubuntu?
[03:37] <cfhowlett> GAM002, please don't ask "has anybody >>>" questions.  waste of time and doesn't address your issue.  VB is free to install and test, so WHY are you asking.  See for yourself!!
[03:38] <thedanyes> GAM002: I use it.  Works great.
[03:38] <dm14995d> mind you i do have a beefy pc
[03:38] <GAM002> cfhowlett:sorry its cause My internet is limited
[03:38] <GAM002> thedanyes: ok thanks
[03:38] <GAM002> dm14995d: Thank you
[03:39] <cfhowlett> GAM002, :0
[03:39] <GAM002> cfhowlett: That is the Truth
[03:40] <Jordan_U> GAM002: It depends on your needs. VirtualBox is nice for being a Free software that is easy to configure, but the guest additions for linux are of poor enough quality that they officially taint the kernel as they are considered upstream to be "feces". For my purposes qemu-kvm is a much better fit, but I mostly create and fire up tiny VMs with no GUI via the terminal.
[03:40] <dm14995d> well said Jordan_U
[03:40] <xangua> arooni-mobile: maybe you should try the answer selected as "best answer" not the second with more votes
[03:41] <GAM002> one more qustion i got 64 bit pc so which is going to work better? the 32 bit version of Virtual Box or 64 ? cause on windows 64bit softwares lack some features
[03:41] <arooni-mobile> well that puts the google dns in resolv.conf for sure;  but then it seems *every* request goes to google even if you just visited the site a second ago
[03:41] <GAM002> idk how or why
[03:41] <xangua> GAM002: 64bit OS
[03:42] <GAM002> xangua: Not the OS i ment the Virtual Box Software
[03:42] <GAM002> xangua: I already Have 64  Bit OS
[03:42] <NekoTheCat> Hello
[03:44] <daftykins> hi
[03:59] <Lencl> hello
[04:00] <Lencl> what are some unique apps ubuntu comes with
[04:00] <Gamer> hello I need some help
[04:00] <daftykins> ask away with detail on one line
[04:00] <cfhowlett> Lencl, for a list of ubuntu packages, look in the software center.
[04:01] <Gamer> sure
[04:01] <Gamer> I have ubuntu 12.04 server no gui how can I set vlc to stream on web interface
[04:02] <cfhowlett> Gamer, go to vlc support.  almost certain there's a tutorial on this one
[04:02] <Lencl> part #ubuntu
[04:02] <MarconM> someone got to install chamander theme from new concept ubuntu
[04:02] <MarconM> ?
[04:02] <MarconM> https://www.behance.net/gallery/28804097/Ubuntu-1604-Stupendously-Hot-Charmander-concept
[04:02] <cfhowlett> MarconM, concept.  CONCEPT!
[04:02] <Gamer> is there vlc support room here ?
[04:03] <cfhowlett> !alis | Gamer
[04:03] <MarconM> cfhowlett: ?
[04:04] <cfhowlett> MarconM, it's not from ubuntu.  it's a concept, i.e. someone's idea of "cool".  and ... it's not even released!
[04:04] <cfhowlett> "mock-up"
[04:04] <Gamer> i did not get it
[04:04] <Gamer> I am not good with irc
[04:05] <cfhowlett> gambl0re, vlc has forums, mail list and irc support.
[04:05] <MarconM> cfhowlett: Ok i understand... my question is anyone got to install. just it =D
[04:06] <Gamer> thanks I found it
[04:06] <Gamer> good day everyone
[04:06] <xangua> MarconM: install what? 16.04 isn't even out....until 2016
[04:06] <MarconM> xangua: intall the theme
[04:07] <xangua> there is No theme, as you were explained already
[04:08] <cfhowlett> MarconM, you know those pictures of cool flying cars?  same idea.  cool pic.  not reality.  maybe someday.
[04:08] <MarconM> cfhowlett: ok
[04:09] <U^1> I want to record some screen-cast. withouse?t and A/V out of sync. What should I u
[04:09] <U^1> use?
[04:11] <daftykins> what is "withouse?t" ?
[04:12] <U^1> daftykins, it is what happenss when you type with your tablet.
[04:12] <daftykins> right, and a correct original sentence would be?
[04:12] <U^1> */withouse?t/without
[04:14] <U^1> daftykins, I use recordmydesktop right now and video passes like 10second with speed then some sound.
[04:14] <U^1> that is the result
[04:14] <U^1> */10seconds
[04:16] <daftykins> http://alternativeto.net/software/gtk-recordmydesktop/?platform=linux
[04:17] <daftykins> 'simplescreenrecorder' is something people have had success with before
[04:18] <austinprog> I'm having problems with adding a printer on ubuntu.
[04:19] <daftykins> austinprog: details?
[04:22] <austinprog> daftykins, I have a brother printer, and no static ip
[04:22] <daftykins> why would you say no static IP?
[04:23] <daftykins> if it's a network printer, configure it with one :)
[04:23] <austinprog> because the IP changes?
[04:23] <austinprog> oh
[04:23] <daftykins> yip
[04:23] <daftykins> static IP allocation is the key to successful network printer use
[04:30] <kmyst> how do you load a module multiple times? i.e. bonding module so one can have more than one bonding interface
[04:31] <kmyst> seems modprobe is now kmod which doesn't honor -o
[04:32] <GAM002> hello?
[04:32] <daftykins> ...?
[04:32] <GAM002> !software suggestions
[04:33] <daftykins> that is not a bot command :)
[04:33] <GAM002> daftykins: :) just tried to see if it works
[04:33] <daftykins> please don't
[04:33] <GAM002> daftykins: ok could that mess up the Bot?
[04:34] <daftykins> no we just don't want to see the spam.
[04:34] <lotuspsychje> GAM002: we have been through this yesterday, dont repeat the same over and over here
[04:35] <cfhowlett> GAM002, this ^^^
[04:35] <freq> hello
[04:35] <freq> havent you ever heard of debian
[04:35] <GAM002> lotuspsychje: ok i forgot -_- its just i am completely new here
[04:35] <GAM002> lotuspsychje: Sorry :(
[04:35] <cfhowlett> !debian | freq
[04:36] <k3yboardninja> bbbb'b
[04:46] <PanV> Hello
[04:47] <frankgigeur> Hi !! i wish to change the hdd space in rutorrent!!
[04:47] <frankgigeur> i change $topdirectory in config.php and en restart apache 2 but nothing change
[04:47] <cfhowlett> frankgigeur, look in rutorrent help menu
[04:49] <ThatEmbarassedGu> Hello, I cannot install fglxr on my PC, due to Login Loop, and inabillity to do CTRL + Alt + F1
[04:50] <ThatEmbarassedGu> But with Gallium drivers, I cannot launch steam but I can launch my pc
[04:59] <Nova_> hi all
[04:59] <Nova_> anyone here?
[04:59] <daftykins> there are if you ask a question
[04:59] <Nova_> ok awesome Ive got a question
[05:00] <Nova_> im not sure if people here can help but im struggling with an HTML/CSS problem
[05:00] <daftykins> this is a channel for Ubuntu OS support
[05:00] <daftykins> that has absolutely NOTHING to do with this channel :)
[05:00] <Nova_> so you guys wouldnt be able to help?
[05:01] <cfhowlett> Nova_, ubuntu support only.
[05:01] <Nova_> ok so ill leave
[05:01] <daftykins> bye bye
[05:01] <daftykins> try #html or #cc
[05:01] <daftykins> * #css
[05:01] <Nova_> did I get banned?
[05:02] <Nova_> "Cannot send to channel: #html"
[05:02] <cfhowlett> !register | Nova_,
[05:02] <daftykins> you need to register first
[05:05] <DJJeff> The latest stable version of FileZilla Client is 3.13.1
[05:05] <DJJeff> The latest repo version of FileZilla Client is 3.7.3-1
[05:05] <DJJeff> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/f/filezilla/
[05:06] <daftykins> DJJeff: what's your question?
[05:06] <DJJeff> they have 3.12 but probley not for trusty LTS
[05:06] <DJJeff> I want FileZilla 3.12 why am I still on 3.7
[05:07] <daftykins> which ubuntu are you on?
[05:07] <DJJeff> trusty LTS
[05:07] <daftykins> !info filezilla trusty
[05:07] <DJJeff> 14.04.3
[05:07] <daftykins> yep sure enough. repos don't always have the latest software, find a PPA if you want newer.
[05:07] <daftykins> but they are not supported here, so your milage may vary :)
[05:07] <DJJeff> you think there is a PPA for this
[05:07] <DJJeff> I throw my head back laughing hard
[05:07] <daftykins> i haven't got the slightest clue if there is, but your research will answer that
[05:08] <daftykins> i think you stole my line :)
[05:08] <DJJeff> why would 3.12 be in the archives but not avail for trusty
[05:09] <DJJeff> 3.7.3 is like 2 years old
[05:09] <DJJeff> its older than trusty itself
[05:09] <daftykins> !info filezilla
[05:09] <daftykins> hmm vivid has 3.9
[05:09] <daftykins> perhaps 3.12 is proposed.
[05:09] <DJJeff> omfg
[05:10] <DJJeff> [ ]	filezilla_3.12.0.2-1ubuntu2_amd64.deb	16-Aug-2015 11:18 	1.4M
[05:10] <DJJeff> [ ]	filezilla_3.12.0.2-1ubuntu2_i386.deb	16-Aug-2015 11:19 	1.5M
[05:10] <daftykins> that language is not necessary here.
[05:10] <daftykins> yes, so you can paste.
[05:10] <DJJeff> looks like 3.12 to me
[05:10] <B0g4r7_> Can you guys help me fixed my hosed GUI? (Ubuntu Desktop 14.04, Radeon card).
[05:10] <DJJeff> you said 3.9
[05:10] <DJJeff> well your stupid bot said 3.9
[05:10] <daftykins> DJJeff: yeah see the bots results? that's what vivid can get. your link means nothing.
[05:11] <daftykins> DJJeff: drop the poor attitude please.
[05:11] <DJJeff> my links are whats in the damn archives
[05:11] <DJJeff> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/f/filezilla/
[05:11] <DJJeff> who cares what a stupid bot says
[05:11] <DJJeff> I am a human being thanks
[05:11] <daftykins> not from where i'm standing.
[05:11] <B0g4r7_> Things were working fine until I ran the "Additional drivers" thing and switched from the open source driver to "fglrx".  I tried that for a while, didn't like it, and switched back.  Now the system won't boot into GUI mode.
[05:11] <B0g4r7_> It boots into text mode, but that is unresponsive.  I can however ssh into the system and do things.
[05:12] <DJJeff> should I just wget the 3.12 .deb and install it with # dpkg -i
[05:12] <daftykins> you're free to risk it, but i wouldn't recommend it.
[05:12] <DJJeff> or will that break things and cause dependency issues
[05:12] <daftykins> B0g4r7_: ensure fglrx is gone with "sudo apt-get purge fglrx* "
[05:12] <DJJeff> using 2 year old software cant be any better
[05:13] <DJJeff> the next LTS 16.04 is not for a while still
[05:14] <DJJeff> having 16.04 come out the same time as windows 10 woulda been funny
[05:14] <daftykins> cut the chatter.
[05:14] <DJJeff> I have not really used MS Windows since Windows 8
[05:14] <B0g4r7_> daftykins, 'k.  I guess I'll have to reboot to see if that helped.  Doing so now.
[05:15] <B0g4r7_> My /var/log/Xorg.0.log is here: http://pastebin.com/18TeKgm9
[05:15] <daftykins> post reboot or before?
[05:15] <B0g4r7_> Before reboot.
[05:17] <daftykins> mmm that one looks slightly borked
[05:17] <daftykins> ensure you don't have a xorg.conf
[05:17] <B0g4r7_> daftykins, oh wow, purging fglrx appears to have actually fixed it.
[05:17] <B0g4r7_> Hah.  I was not expecting it to be that sample.
[05:17] <daftykins> o0
[05:17] <DJJeff> I could just imagine the jokes about 15.04.... come play with my Wily
[05:17] <B0g4r7_> Hey, thanks a lot!
[05:18] <daftykins> DJJeff: grow up and drop it. chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:18] <daftykins> no problemo
[05:19] <B0g4r7_> I tell ya, I've had about enough of trying to make AMD graphics work nicely.  I'm about ready to go and buy me some Nvidia.
[05:19] <daftykins> :)
[05:19] <DJJeff> no
[05:19] <daftykins> did you try fglrx-updates ?
[05:19] <DJJeff> Nvidia is worse
[05:19] <daftykins> no, AMD is worse.
[05:19] <DJJeff> I have Nvidia GTX 660
[05:19] <B0g4r7_> daftykins, I did not.  I understood it was essentially the same thing as fglrx.
[05:19] <DJJeff> truing to get 3D Accel with Ubuntu Trusty and Virtualbox
[05:19] <DJJeff> is a pain in the !@#
[05:20] <daftykins> bear in mind Canonical has created an official PPA with newer drivers for all setups now, so it should be better to use than what you may have as standard
[05:20] <daftykins> DJJeff: that's a virtualbox problem, nothing to do with nvidia drivers working
[05:20] <daftykins> thus your comment is moot.
[05:20] <cfhowlett> B0g4r7_, of the 3 top gpu companies, amd is probably the least linux friendly.  fwiw: nvidia prime works perfect on my dell m3800 with quad k1100
[05:20] <B0g4r7_> From what I read, Nvidia as a company is bad for open source, but their hardware tends to work better [than AMD] with linux.
[05:20] <DJJeff> I do give Nvidia props for that
[05:21] <cfhowlett> B0g4r7_, they may be "bad" for opensource (debatable), but they do provide OEM linux drivers.  +1!
[05:21] <DJJeff> better hardware crappy software
[05:21] <DJJeff> from both Nvidia and AMD
[05:21] <B0g4r7_> I also hear that Intel "on-board" graphics work great, but they're not really in the same class as a discrete GPU.
[05:22] <DJJeff> well ATI had the worst software until AMD took over
[05:22] <cfhowlett> B0g4r7_, on-board typically = laptop.  you should expect different performance metrics.
[05:23] <DJJeff> whats a good GPU benchmark tool for ubuntu
[05:23] <DJJeff> glxgears is too silly for me
[05:23] <B0g4r7_> I mean like "Intel HD Graphics 4000" or whatever is built into the newer I5, I7, and whatnot chips.
[05:23] <cfhowlett> DJJeff, lots of them listed in ubuntu software center.
[05:23] <DJJeff> which one is the best
[05:23] <DJJeff> or is that just preference
[05:24] <cfhowlett> DJJeff, the one you use.  it's subjective.
[05:24] <DJJeff> on Windows I use Valley Benchmark I think I got it to run in linux back in 13.04 Raring
[05:25] <DJJeff> never tried it with my new GTX 660 on 14.04 Trusty
[05:59] <Om> hi
[06:01] <vnikil-15-04> hi
[06:02] <lxy> liuxinyuan
[06:02] <lxy> ping
[06:02] <cfhowlett> !cn | liuxinyuan
[06:03] <atlas1729> anyone else running ubuntu on a shitty rig that can hardly handle much of the gui?
[06:04] <cfhowlett> !language | atlas1729,
[06:04] <baizon> atlas1729: well not anymore, switched my netbook to xubuntu
[06:04] <hyde> atlas1729: I run lubuntu on a 6 year old laptop with single core celeron processor. does that count?
[06:05] <hyde> I wouldn't dream of trying Unity desktop on it though.
[06:05] <atlas1729> ah. i think that does. just converted a 2006 mac mini over and im pretty sure i need to not run unity on it haha
[06:05] <atlas1729> app transitions alone cripples it
[06:06] <hyde> I'd try first if xubuntu or ubuntu mate (xubuntu-desktop or ubuntu-mate-desktop packages) work well enough, then fall back to lubuntu
[06:07] <sai> good morning
[06:07] <lotuspsychje> sai: welcome, what can we do for you?
[06:07] <hyde> atlas1729:  apt get install xxx-desktop. try it out. if not ok, apt-get autoremove --purge xxx-desktop  shoudl allow pretty clean way to try them out without leaving a lot of crud
[06:08] <sai> hello lotuspsychje sir
[06:09] <atlas1729> much appreciated! ill check it out - hopefully it can alleviate those issues. i'd love for this old thing to work as an intro to linux for me
[06:12] <lyall> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-mozilla-daily/firefox-aurora
[06:13] <cfhowlett> lyall, you might try that in a  terminal ...
[06:20] <krocos> Hi, is any method to change application name to icon on the panel where the tray placed on the left?
[06:22] <oem> grüßt euch
[06:22] <anden> test
[06:22] <lotuspsychje> !de | oem
[06:22] <lotuspsychje> !test | anden
[06:23] <NekoTheCat> Hi
[06:23] <NekoTheCat> Uhmmm I just mistakenly ran sudo make install before make
[06:23] <NekoTheCat> How har did I fck up?
[06:23] <NekoTheCat> hard*
[06:23] <lotuspsychje> krocos: maybe this can help: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UnityLaunchersAndDesktopFiles
[06:24] <lotuspsychje> !make | NekoTheCat
[06:25] <LibertyWeNeed> what is the Free Software Image Host so I can attach images to show someone something on IRC?
[06:26] <Bashing-om> !paste LibertyWeNeed
[06:26] <Bashing-om> !paste | LibertyWeNeed
[06:27] <LibertyWeNeed> ubottu, do you know of any GPL equivalents?
[06:27] <NekoTheCat> Oh
[06:28] <NekoTheCat> So... someone intelligent pls halp? ;_;
[06:28] <locksmith2> i put my pants on
[06:28] <locksmith2> lol
[06:31] <sai> hi om
[06:31] <krocos> lotuspsychje, it is not exactly that I want. I want to set icon permanently, not for the one app. Like this http://storage9.static.itmages.com/i/15/0826/h_1440570711_8412775_66a2b8f2b8.png
[06:32] <atlas1729> ahh xcfe is much better
[06:32] <gustav1234x> Hi. Can you help me with Ubuntu OpenStack?
[06:36] <lotuspsychje> krocos: thats for mac, not ubuntu
[06:36] <lotuspsychje> gustav1234x: try the #openstack channel perhaps
[06:37] <gustav1234x> Yeah, they’re asleep.
[06:37] <lotuspsychje> gustav1234x: 900 users:p you might wanna ask and idle
[06:38] <krocos> lotuspsychje, that is but is it possible to get done something similar in the unity?
[06:39] <lotuspsychje> krocos: you can try to set a mac theme on unity with conky perhaps
[06:39] <lotuspsychje> !info conky | krocos
[06:39] <gustav1234x> lotuspsychje: It’s really a problem with MAAS.
[06:39] <minimec> krocos: For the panel icon... http://www.pendrivelinux.com/changing-the-ubuntu-start-menu-panel-icon/
[06:40] <lotuspsychje> gustav1234x: and we have a #maas channel also :p
[06:40] <gustav1234x> lotuspsychje: LOL. Okay. :P
[06:41] <kostas> hi everyone
[06:42] <sai> hello  kostas
[06:42] <kostas> a warm good morning from Greece
[06:43] <gustav1234x> kostas: <3
[06:51] <stub> Can anyone tell me if python2 has been dropped from the default install of wily? I'm most interested in server and cloud if that makes a difference.
[06:53] <goddard> why does ufw block USB ports?
[06:53] <lotuspsychje> !info python2
[06:55] <lotuspsychje> !info python | stub
[06:55] <lotuspsychje> stub: join #ubuntu+1 for wily questions
[06:55] <stub> optional, ta.
[06:57] <theblindghoulie3> sry to post here, no one is responding in ##Linux. I am trying to dual boot my mac with Linux Mint and keep getting the error upon trying to load the OS no bios dp data
[06:58] <pagios> hi guys, anyone using a chromebook?
[06:58] <lotuspsychje> !mint | theblindghoulie3
[06:59] <theblindghoulie3> thank you
[06:59] <lotuspsychje> pagios: best is to ask your specific question in the channel, so others can read
[06:59] <kostas> pagios: yep, but whiped the drive and installed xubuntu
[06:59] <minimec> pagios: I may be able to help. acer c720p chromebook
[07:00] <pagios> ok great, i have a toshiba chromebook2, installed crouton and running ubuntu 14.04 inside all is great, until i reached a point where my android is not recognized when i plug it via the usb port
[07:00] <pagios> i also dont have kvm features as the cpu is compatible but not enabled in BIOS
[07:01] <NekoTheCat> How can I install a binary so I can just run the command instead of navigatins all the way to it?
[07:01] <NekoTheCat> navigating*
[07:02] <minimec> pagios: Ok. So I wiped ChromeOS and use a clean fedora22 installation on it. So I cannot help you with USB related things with Crouton. The ChromeOS kernel should be able to handle USB. Can you plug a USB webcam or so?
[07:03] <pagios> minimec: so mainly you wiped the whole chromeos ?!
[07:03] <Flannel> NekoTheCat: Put it somewhere on your PATH (echo $PATH).  If you want it installed for everyone that uses your computer, you'd put it in /usr/local/bin/, if you want it installed just for you, you'd put it in ~/bin/
[07:04] <lotuspsychje> pagios: you could try to install the android tools for ubuntu
[07:04] <pagios> lotuspsychje: i did
[07:04] <minimec> pagios: exactly... And also set legacy_boot as default. So it simply boots into grub2...
[07:04] <pagios> minimec: any tutorials?
[07:04] <lotuspsychje> pagios: can you try a tail -f /var/log/syslog and plugin your android
[07:04] <pagios> and is there a wa to get back chromeOS afterwards?
[07:05] <pagios> if something messy happens, i dont want to be locked in
[07:05] <minimec> pagios: Well I don't know if that is also possible with your Toshiba crhomebook2... Let's see...
[07:05] <lotuspsychje> pagios: did you unlock your android device to developer mode?
[07:06] <pagios> lotuspsychje: sure, it works fine on my other laptop
[07:06] <lotuspsychje> kk
[07:07] <minimec> pagios: MIght be tricky with the Toshiba Chromebook. "Toshiba CB2 does not have Seabios..." from here http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/answers/id-2400256/install-ubuntu-toshiba-chromebook-crouton.html
[07:07] <pagios> :(
[07:07] <minimec> pagios: Answer from "Valence"
[07:09] <pagios> so i dont have any choice
[07:10] <pagios> but i dont see why my android is not recognized by ubuntu in crouton
[07:12] <minimec> pagios: Yeah. Looks like Crouton is the way to go.
[07:13] <minimec> pagios: MAybe a problem with MTP. Android connects as MTP device. This is sometimes tricky with Linux.
[07:22] <desiderio1> hello
[07:24] <lotuspsychje> desiderio1: welcome, what can we do for you?
[07:25] <inkscaper25576> hola
[07:26] <inkscaper25576> yo de granada
[07:26] <lotuspsychje> !es | inkscaper25576
[07:26] <inkscaper25576> alguno con conocimientos de wordpress
[07:27] <bazhang> try #wordpress inkscaper25576
[07:33] <mikhael_k33hl> Ubuntu no longer boots up. Tried to run a live Ubuntu via usb and running Boot repair but an error occurred: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12197625/
[07:36] <Mattias> mikhael_k33hl: Do you boot from the correct ssd? Go into the BIOS and try setting the correct one in bootup sequence
[07:37] <lotuspsychje> !recovery | mikhael_k33hl try this maybe
[07:37] <mikhael_k33hl> Mattias: during bootup pressed F12 and tried booting up from all available options
[07:37] <mikhael_k33hl> lotuspsychje: I'll give that a try
[07:38] <lotuspsychje> mikhael_k33hl: when did this all start to happen?
[07:38] <mikhael_k33hl> Just turned off my computer yesterday, when I turned it back on today, this is what happened.
[07:38] <lotuspsychje> mikhael_k33hl: after an update perhaps?
[07:39] <Mattias> an update shouldn't remove grub -.-
[07:39] <Mattias> Or can it?
[07:40] <lotuspsychje> Mattias: sometimes updates have influence on boot, not specially grub
[07:40] <mikhael_k33hl> lotuspsychje: Recovery doesn't work, it'll only display the word GRUB on a black screen with the letter C then when I press anything, it says "Reboot and Select proper Boot device or Insert Boot Media in selected Boot device and press a key.
[07:41] <Mattias> Sure, a new linux kernel, but grub should still show the last kernel as an option in case the new one doesn't work. But yeah, maybe it was a new grub update I don't know about.
[07:42] <ikonia> ubuntu will always keep at least N -1 kernel in the grub menu
[07:44] <overdrive> hi, is there any way to enable back again the setup prompt/ncurses to set ubuntu/system user password at boot time?
[07:44] <tamltnmarco> hello
[07:44] <overdrive> ubuntu has root account disabled with no password, and I was wondering if there is any way, not only to set the user password on the first boot, but later on, in an already installed and configured system
[07:44] <tamltnmarco> good morning
[07:45] <ikonia> overdrive: what is the problem you are trying to solve
[07:46] <minimec> overdrive: 'sudo -i', then 'passwd' wil give you the possibility to set a root password after installation.
[07:46] <Mattias> mikhael_k33hl: And reading that output, there is no real error apart from that it can't find grub on the second ssd and it can't use the second ssd since it is busy. But it does find grub on the first ssd and everything is fine there. Basically it means grub is ok. The second thing to fix is a working linux kernel. Which should be there as an option. If you see nothing under grub, something must have happened
[07:46] <Mattias> to the grub config file. Use a recovery system you can put on the USB and fix all that.
[07:48] <Mattias> overdrive: highly recommended not to set a root password. it's a security risk. and you don't need it since the user can become root whenever it wants using the user password, if the user has admin rights with sudo
[07:49] <Mattias> overdrive: so to remove a password from a user, root as an example, you can use "sudo passwd -l root".
[07:50] <Mattias> similarly, you can set a new password skipping the -l part
[07:50] <mikhael_k33hl> Mattias: How do I fix it? I'm currently running a live usb Ubuntu mate, hehehe
[07:51] <Mattias> mikhael_k33hl: Well, grub seems to work. So.. try to reinstall all kernels for a start, here is a nice answer: http://askubuntu.com/questions/28099/how-to-restore-a-system-after-accidentally-removing-all-kernels
[07:51] <Mattias> Assuming you do see grub when booting up
[08:01] <GAM002> !ubuntu tweak
[08:01] <GAM002> !ubuntu
[08:02] <GAM002> how to install ubuntu tweak?
[08:02] <GAM002> !java
[08:03] <shoaib> when i start tor from terminal i get this error
[08:03] <mikhael_k33hl> Mattias: tried that, still doesn't work . . .
[08:03] <shoaib> http://pastebin.com/G8EZgnPM
[08:03] <Mattias> mikhael_k33hl: Ok, What do you see when grub launches now? Still no entries?
[08:03] <shoaib> any help please?
[08:04] <lotuspsychje> !msgthebot | GAM002
[08:04] <mikhael_k33hl> Mattias: can't even get to grub, black screen saying  ""Reboot and Select proper Boot device or Insert Boot Media in selected Boot device and press a key."
[08:05] <Mattias> Ah, ok, that's your BIOS not seeing grub then. Usually it's the wrong disk selected in bootup.
[08:05] <Mattias> If it's not, then something is wrong with that recovery tool, because it could see it :)
[08:06] <Mattias> shoaib: Looks like Tor is already running. Or something else is already using port 9050
[08:06] <shoaib> i killed tor and started again, it did something called bootstrapping but same error
[08:07] <shoaib> how can i find out what is using port 9050 and stop it from using it?
[08:07] <lotuspsychje> !tor | shoaib
[08:07] <Mattias> shoaib: what does this give you?: ss -aln | grep 9050
[08:07] <Mattias> shoaib: hint: that should return nothing for it to work.
[08:08] <shoaib> tcp    LISTEN     0      128            127.0.0.1:9050                  *:*
[08:09] <Mattias> shoaib: That tells you something is already running using that port.
[08:09] <Mattias> shoaib: have you tried: sudo service tor restart
[08:09] <shoaib> no, shall i do it now?
[08:09] <Mattias> see what happens, not sure if it has a service script though (I don't use tor)
[08:10] <Mattias> I prefer using a vpn
[08:10] <shoaib> Job for tor.service failed. See "systemctl status tor.service" and "journalctl -xe" for details.
[08:10] <shoaib> can i find out what is using 9050?
[08:11] <Mattias> netstat -tulpn | grep :9050
[08:11] <mikhael_k33hl> Mattias: oh man, this is a mess. . .
[08:12] <shoaib> tcp        0      0 127.0.0.1:9050          0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      11456/tor
[08:12] <Mattias> mikhael_k33hl: Yeah, I've had issues with bootup before on my current computer. Took a while to figure out. Just try everything you can find and hope for the best. The current message you get just means it can't find grub or another bootloader on the selected disk for bootup
[08:13] <Mattias> shoaib: see, tor already running
[08:13] <shoaib> but its not even opening
[08:13] <shoaib> i cant open it
[08:13] <shoaib> not from terminal not from the shortcut
[08:14] <overdrive> ikonia / minimec / Mattias : sorry I was away from keyboard. Really I have a user (not root) with some default password set, and then I configure the system (with some configuration manager). And then, the idea, is in the next boot, set the password for this "new user" (not root) in interactive way for the first user that boots the system, in order to change the "default password" I set initially.
[08:14] <drethy> I have a folder with subfolders and files. I made a copy of the folder and changed some of the files in the folder. Is there an easy way to remove all the unchanged files from my copy, so I'm left with only the changed/new/different files in comparison to the original folder?
[08:17] <Dro__> i'm wondering why skype in ubuntu keep clearing chat even the option "keep forever" is selected
[08:19] <PudgePacket> Hi, I'm about to Install Ubuntu instead of windows, I have a Primary small SSD for the OS and a large HDD for secondary storage. Is it possible to install Ubuntu and leave the HDD untouched with all my files intact?
[08:19] <lotuspsychje> PudgePacket: yes possible
[08:19] <lotuspsychje> PudgePacket: you will use the second drive as ntfs data?
[08:20] <PudgePacket> lotuspsychje: Yes. Is that not recommeded?
[08:20] <PudgePacket> recommended*
[08:20] <eclectichedgehog> PudgePacket, thats fine
[08:21] <lotuspsychje> PudgePacket: sure thats fine mate, just make a backup before you install and make sure you dont choose the data hd as install drive ok
[08:21] <PudgePacket> So any drives that are not the install drive will be left untouched?
[08:21] <lotuspsychje> PudgePacket: how big is your ssd?
[08:21] <lotuspsychje> PudgePacket: correct
[08:21] <PudgePacket> 256 GB
[08:22] <lotuspsychje> PudgePacket: wich brand please?
[08:22] <Mattias> overdrive: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/rhel-debian-force-users-to-change-passwords/
[08:23] <PudgePacket> Corsair Force LS SSD SCSI Disk Device
[08:24] <mikhael_k33hl> Mattias: not sure what happened, but tried this: http://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-repair-restore-reinstall-grub-2-with-a-ubuntu-live-cd
[08:24] <Mattias> PudgePacket: I'd highly recommend going with a native linux filesystem. ntfs might cause you some corrupt files under linux, but I haven't used it for years. Not sure how permissions would work on ntfs either.
[08:24] <lotuspsychje> PudgePacket: ok make sure there all new firmwares are up to date on your ssd
[08:24] <mikhael_k33hl> Mattias: It's workign now, perhaps grub needed an update? I''m not sure though
[08:24] <Mattias> mikhael_k33hl: something must have happened to grub. well, now you have a fresh kernel and a fresh grub ;)
[08:25] <lotuspsychje> Mattias: it will ask admin pass to mount ntfs
[08:25] <Mattias> lotuspsychje: I'd try to get a new hdd which can fit all the files, format it to ext4, then move over all files there. After that reformat the other hdd to ext4 :P
[08:26] <Mattias> I don't trust ntfs under linux
[08:26] <lotuspsychje> Mattias: yes of course its more reccomended, but in his case a big windows drive with lot of data
[08:26] <Mattias> Then again, I have an awful lots of hdd's in my case. each OS has their own storage drives :) each OS also has their own ssd drives
[08:29] <GAM002> How to clean Janito with ubuntu tweak?
[08:29] <PudgePacket> lotuspsychje: I'm using the corsair ssd tool box from corsair to update the firmware and it said update failed... This is going to be interesting :)
[08:30] <satellite_> greetings
[08:31] <satellite_> how can i disable chromium youtube lag?
[08:31] <satellite_> it had to do with chaching i think
[08:33] <PudgePacket> lotuspsychje: Is there a problem with using a slightly out of date firmware for SSD? It's only 2 minor versions behind.
[08:34] <PudgePacket> I'll try a reboot...
[08:35] <satellite_> chromium youtube lag, please help
[08:37] <Furai> "ACPI PCC probe failed error" - I choose you #ubuntu, solutions please.
[08:37] <eclectichedgehog> satellite_, more info like cpu, memory
[08:38] <TJ-> Furai: Don't worry about it; it's a stray debug message the kernel dev forgot to silence. It's since been patched out
[08:39] <satellite_> eclectichedgehog,  Intel Pentium® M Processor 760, 1024MB DDR2 SDRAM
[08:41] <eclectichedgehog> satellite_, if youre viewing 720 or 1080 clips on youtube then that system might struggle
[08:42] <satellite_> 720p can work. it's something about settings. when buffer is done, it works perfect
[08:42] <satellite_> eclectichedgehog
[08:43] <eclectichedgehog> then it could be a slow or faulty internet connection maybe
[08:43] <Bigsista> hi all. we're running a quick install of ubunru server 14.04.3... now apt-get update fails, although routes and dns are correct. is that a known issue atm?
[08:43] <eclectichedgehog> Bigsista, fails, how?
[08:43] <Bigsista> Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty-security/multiverse/binary-amd64/Packages  Unable to connect to security.ubuntu.com:http: [IP: 91.189.92.201 80]
[08:44] <satellite_> eclectichedgehog, connection is relatively fast, i am talking about lag that is there even if there is alot of buffering surplus
[08:45] <Mattias> satellite_: installed the latest gfx drivers?
[08:46] <Furai> TJ-, does it affect in any way boot time? Could adding acpi=off to grub config make it faster?
[08:47] <TJ-> Furai: no, it makes zero difference to boot times
[08:47] <Furai> ok, thanks
[08:47] <TJ-> Furai: It's simply reporting that the ACPI sub-system doesn't have Power Clocking Control
[08:47] <satellite_> Mattias, no, drivers are fine
[08:47] <Mattias> And don't trust the buffer bar, sometimes it might show more than it has actually buffered. You might not have enough of a buffer. And depending on video, even on a 100Mbit line it might not buffer fast enough. Because youtube might actually be slow :P
[08:48] <Furai> Today it seems as well that upstart had some problems starting. Dunno why, I was sure I was using systemd anyway.
[08:48] <Mattias> I've noticed certain videos are faster than others, not sure if it's because of different youtube servers
[08:48] <Furai> Maybe I did something wrong.
[08:50] <satellite_> Mattias, there is enough on buffer, it's reliable
[08:50] <Mattias> Bigsista: tried to ping security.ubuntu.com? Or even check if your dns has a record for it with: dig security.ubuntu.com a
[08:50] <Mattias> satellite_: when it is fully loaded, does it lag anything?
[08:50] <Bigsista> dig works well
[08:51] <satellite_> on 100% no but on 75% yes even when i am on beginning, and i'd like to fix this
[08:51] <Bigsista> already disabled ipv6 w/ a new config in /etc/sysctl.d
[08:52] <Mattias> satellite_: and doesn't happen in other browsers?
[08:52] <satellite_> Mattias, it's slow in firefox and chromium seems to be fastest
[08:52] <Mattias> Bigsista: It looks like the server just drops you. try forcing another ip from the dig list using /etc/hosts for security.ubuntu.com
[08:53] <Mattias> Bigsista: for me it uses 91.189.91.15
[08:54] <Mattias> satellite_: does chromium use the html5 player? or is it the flash player?
[08:54] <satellite_> html5 players doesn't show half videos
[08:54] <satellite_> it's flash
[08:54] <Mattias> try using the html5 player, it works exactly the same for me as the flash player does, but better.
[08:54] <eclectichedgehog> well thats a problem in itself
[08:55] <satellite_> Mattias, i feel in my guts it have to do with chaching
[08:55] <Mattias> satellite_: https://www.youtube.com/html5
[08:55] <Mattias> Just try it ;)
[08:55] <Mattias> flash is a security risk anyways
[08:55] <eclectichedgehog> Mattias, doesn't youtube use html5 as default now anyway?
[08:55] <Mattias> eclectichedgehog: sometimes it doesn't. not sure why, you notice it if you block flash.
[08:56] <Mattias> a refresh usually switches back to html5
[08:56] <Bigsista> Mattias: nice one. thx
[08:56] <satellite_> Mattias, how to enable this?
[08:57] <satellite_> do i have to be logged in on youtube?
[08:57] <eclectichedgehog> satellite_, remove flash would be a good move :)
[08:58] <Mattias> satellite_: apparently you can't "enable" it anymore, it just shows if the browser supports everything. It'll be used when possible...
[08:58] <Mattias> satellite_: So as eclectichedgehog mentions, disable flash. Don't want it activated anyways ;)
[08:59] <satellite_> Mattias, it doesnt work
[09:00] <satellite_> chrome://plugins - disable adobe flash player, same thing
[09:00] <Mattias> satellite_: tried refreshing? No player?
[09:00] <satellite_> got player but problem is the same
[09:02] <Mattias> I see, well, we fixed a security risk at least. ;)
[09:02] <satellite_> Mattias, perhaps you are just a beginner, willing to help
[09:02] <Mattias> satellite_: there are no beginners or expert. Just people who has knowledge about different things.
[09:03] <Bigsista> what's the default desktop package to install for 14.04?
[09:03] <Mattias> By that definition you would call an expert a beginner because he doesn't know one thing you know
[09:03] <Bigsista> we have some unexpericence users who need a desktop on that server
[09:03] <Bigsista> +d
[09:03] <eclectichedgehog> satellite_, as I said before your macine with 1GB of DDR2  isnt the best for modern day playback of youtube anyway
[09:04] <satellite_> Mattias, solution is possible
[09:04] <lotuspsychje> !info ubuntu-desktop | Bigsista
[09:05] <Mattias> satellite_: well, others have had the same issues, and it was because of flash.
[09:05] <Mattias> satellite_: one possible fix was to disable all flash versions (yes, some had several installed) then enable the latest one. Each computer is different. Now knowing you have 1GB of DDR2 ram, I don't even understand how you can play 1080p videos :P
[09:06] <Bigsista> ok. thx.
[09:06] <lotuspsychje> Bigsista: you amight also ask in #ubuntu-server what are more reccomended ways to install what you need
[09:06] <Bigsista> last question: is there a good php5.4 repo for 14.04 lts?
[09:07] <satellite_> Mattias, i'll try with chrome instead of chromium. might get extra settings there. i never mentioned 1080p, but 720p and it CAN work
[09:07] <lotuspsychje> !info php | Bigsista
[09:07] <lotuspsychje> !info php5 | Bigsista
[09:08] <lotuspsychje> Bigsista: its reccomended to use the versions for your ubuntu version, not untrusted ppa's
[09:09] <eclectichedgehog> satellite_, remember that ubuntu has just eaten approx half your 1GB of memory and chromium/chrome is a heavyweight browser so that is asking for problems
[09:09] <Mattias> satellite_: I couldn't even get it to work on a desktop with 8gb ram (because the graphics card wasn't good enough). Which graphics card do you have?
[09:11] <satellite_> Mattias, something very old but able for hd
[09:12] <Mattias> satellite_: I'm sure a real video player could play it, but this is through a browser. It might barely be able to play it when it is fully buffered, but while buffering it is too much
[09:14] <eclectichedgehog> a quick test here on youtube shows chrome is using 500MB+ playing a youtube vid
[09:21] <rawiri> I applied recent software updates (updated my kernel to 3.19) and when I rebooted I get this message: "ACPI PCC Probe Failed, starting version 219" then the system just hangs and doesn't proceed...
[09:21] <rawiri> Any ideas?
[09:21] <rawiri> When I set my driver back to Nouvea, I can boot back in normally again.
[09:22] <lotuspsychje> rawiri: ubuntu version and grafix card chipset please?
[09:26] <rawiri> lotuspsycheje: Thanks, just a sec...
[09:28] <rawiri> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GK104 [GeForce GTX 760] (rev a1)
[09:29] <rawiri> ubuntu 15.04
[09:29] <lotuspsychje> rawiri: do you know if thats an optimus card?
[09:30] <rawiri> Oh, I'm not sure... do you know how I can find that out?
[09:31] <lotuspsychje> rawiri: just checked, its not optimus
[09:31] <lotuspsychje> rawiri: keep in mind that LTS might perform better
[09:32] <lotuspsychje> rawiri: we have many users on 15.04 with black screens
[09:33] <mcphail> lotuspsychje: no reason to have a black screen on 15.04 with that card
[09:33] <rawiri> mcphail: I got in with your suggestion yesterday but then it did the same thing again after I rebooted....
[09:34] <mcphail> rawiri: you were running the binary nvidia driver? Which one, and from which source?
[09:35] <lotuspsychje> mcphail: i just mention reality mate, alot of users get this after updates
[09:36] <mcphail> lotuspsychje: the plural of anecdote is not data
[09:38] <rawiri> lotuspsychje: I was using 346.59, just selecting the driver through the "Software & Updates" settings...
[09:38] <rawiri> Seems to be fine across to other PC's I use...
[09:38] <rawiri> *two
[09:39] <mcphail> rawiri: can you boot the newest kernel by adding "nomodeset" to the boot parameters?
[09:42] <rawiri> mcphail: I'll give that a go
[09:51] <rawiri> mcphail: That worked. Will that persist? Or Will things go back to normal when I try to boot in normally next time?
[09:51] <Celphish> Elo everyone!
[09:51] <Celphish> Got a simple question for you:
[09:51] <lotuspsychje> Celphish: welcome, what can we do for you
[09:51] <mcphail> rawiri: you can make it persist, but it is suboptimal. Best to make it boot with the proper drivers
[09:52] <mcphail> rawiri: from your newly booted machine, run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install --reinstall nvidia-346"
[09:52] <Celphish> If I have a server, which happends to have 2 unmounted 1tb-disks on it, and it's also running a very important company for our business, will anything be interrupted if I add the 2 drives to fstab and type "mount -a"? will it dismount the original drive or just add the new?
[09:52] <Celphish> company=service
[09:53] <lotuspsychje> Celphish: try #ubuntu-server mate
[09:53] <Celphish> lotuspsychje: aah, ok, thanks :) I'll stay here too, since I'm now running Ubuntu 14.04 on my work-laptop :D
[09:53] <mcphail> rawiri: let me know if there are any errors
[09:53] <overdrive> thanks Mattias, it looks exactly what i was looking for. Is there any way to force some strong policy passwords when I am asking for those? I cannot see any option in chage command for that. But maybe I should change some config files in etc
[09:54] <rawiri> mcphail: Thanks, I will. Gonna give that a go now.
[09:56] <satellite_> Mattias, i solved 720p in chromium without lag
[09:57] <satellite_> sudo apt-get remove adobe-flashplugin && sudo apt-get remove flashplugin-installer
[09:58] <satellite_> sudo apt-get remove chromium-browser && sudo apt-get remove pepperflashplugin-nonfree
[09:58] <satellite_> sudo apt-get install chromium-browser && sudo apt-get install pepperflashplugin-nonfree
[09:59] <satellite_> that's it, works like a charm, i knew it's possible :)
[10:03] <mcphail> rawiri: I'm going to be in meetings for a couple of hours but you can ping me later and I can try to help
[10:04] <rawiri> mcphail: Ok. Thanks for your help so far.
[10:11] <user190> does anyone know how can you format a usb stick to its full original size from ubuntu
[10:11] <lotuspsychje> !info gparted | user190
[10:11] <user190> oks
[10:11] <user190> thanks
[10:19] <nmee> Hi, is there a "best practice" way of making sure services are running? (`service start xxx`). I read up on supervisor, but it seems it's more focused on stand-alone scripts/programs etc.
[10:20] <user190> anyone played league of legends on ubuntu with wine
[10:22] <weeshat> did I?
[10:27] <muelli> what's the Ubuntu way of getting https://code.launchpad.net/~daniele-athome/pygpgme/pygpgme/+merge/173333 integrated?
[10:28] <mistralol> muelli: contact the maintaner for the package you want patched i assume?
[10:32] <muelli> mistralol: good suggestion. Been there done that. What's next?
[10:32] <mistralol> wait for response?
[10:32] <abdellah> helow
[10:33] <abdellah> salut
[10:33] <muelli> mistralol: good suggestion. How long do you think is appropriate?  What about, say, half a year.  What then?
[10:34] <mistralol> muelli: not sure then. Could raise a bug I guess but i assume you have done that already
[10:34] <abdellah> i look woman to mariedd
[10:34] <muelli> mistralol: check.
[10:34] <mistralol> muelli: there is probably a way to flag the package as abandoned by maintainer
[10:34] <mistralol> then become the maintainer ;)
[10:35] <muelli> fair enough.  mistralol: do you more about that flagging process?
[10:36] <mistralol> muelli: dunno whats the package?
[10:38] <TJ-> muelli: first thing is to ensure your patch and merge request are for the development version, currently 15.10. Once that is accepted and released, request an SRU for previous releases if appropriate (usually only bug-fixes)
[10:39] <mistralol> muelli: also an active report helps too :D
[10:42] <TJ-> muelli: it looks as if the lp:pygpgme branch is no longer active; the python-gpgme debian/Changelog shows a new upstream release was packaged in 2014
[10:43] <mistralol> TJ-: just wondering how do you go about getting a package into ubuntu?
[10:44] <backdoorx> mistralol: ppa
[10:44] <pagios> hi guys
[10:44] <pagios> i am pluggin my phone via usb calbe into my laptop (ubuntu) lsusb does not show any difference
[10:44] <pagios> nothing
[10:45] <mistralol> backdoorx: where would you go from there? You get somebody to approave it?
[10:45] <pagios> any idea?
[10:45] <pagios> output is same as when not pluggin anything
[10:45] <TJ-> mistralol: package it, and propose it via a use-case in a bug report, plus an email to ubuntu-devel@ is a good start
[10:47] <rory-> I've got some logs in the form: 2015-03-05 21:31:59  Rory    Foo
[10:48] <rory-> But I can't grep for "Rory     "
[10:48] <rory-> What do
[10:48] <TJ-> rory: what are you trying to match ?
[10:49] <dw1> grep "Rory\ \ \ \"
[10:49] <int> hey guys, I'm in need of some help
[10:49] <dw1> or just the quotes
[10:50] <rory> dw1: Yeah I tried that too
[10:50] <rory> TJ-: It's my IRC logs. The example I gave is me saying "Foo". I want to grep for only lines I've said, not lines with contain my nick
[10:50] <rory> TJ-: Hence "Rory     " not just "Rory"
[10:50] <dw1> maybe it's not a space but a tab
[10:50] <rory> When I select it click and drag, it seems to be spaces
[10:51] <rory> I actually copied and pasted into my grep command
[10:51] <int> I've got a Ubuntu installation on a USB drive, which works fine on a number of my computers. The problem is with my laptop, which has a broken wireless card. Something about it forces my laptop to become unresponsive and freeze within minutes of turning on
[10:51] <TJ-> rory: "egrep '^[-0-9: ]* Rory'  "
[10:51] <EriC^^> rory: grep 'Rory     ' if you want to grep for the spaces
[10:51] <int> This problem also sorta happens with my Windows 7 installation, but disabling the device fixes it
[10:52] <rory> No dice
[10:52] <rory> EriC^^: Single quotes? 'll try now
[10:52] <int> I don't know how to do it on Ubuntu
[10:52] <nonickname> hello friends
[10:52] <rory> Nope, the only results are this conversation, me quoting it above
[10:53] <EriC^^> rory: are you sure? it works here..
[10:53] <nonickname> EriC^^:  who works here ?
[10:53] <rory> 100% sure. This is default weechat log format
[10:54] <bishops> Hi guys, any ideas why google integration (such as viewing calendar in the top panel under the date) works sporadically in Ubuntu 14.04?
[10:54] <rory> nonickname: nobody "works" here
[10:54] <EriC^^> nonickname: the command works
[10:54] <TJ-> rory: see http://paste.ubuntu.com/12198559/
[10:55] <rory> yeah TJ-
[10:55] <nonickname> rory:  its awesome  command
[10:55] <TJ-> rory: if those spaces are actually tabs (0x09) then use: " egrep '^[-0-9: ]*[[:space:]]*Rory'  "
[10:55] <rory> It works for where I've typed "Rory    " in this channel. But those are the only results
[10:55] <rory> TJ-: I'll try that
[10:56] <rory> TJ-: Thanks, that's it. Guess they were tabs
[10:56] <habbasi> Hello. My PC boots into a black screen once I select Install Xubuntu. Monitor goes into power save mode,
[10:56] <TJ-> rory: Pro Tip. when in doubt "hexdump -C /path/to/file | less" and look at the character codes :)
[10:57] <habbasi> Keyboard is responsive, caps lock turns on and off.
[10:57] <TJ-> habbasi: does the PC have multiple monitor outputs?
[10:57] <habbasi> TJ-: There's a few, yes.
[10:57] <jjavah0lic> i can't deselect using touchpad what can i do to resolve this?
[10:58] <habbasi> TJ-: I'll try the ones I can.
[10:58] <TJ-> habbasi: sometimes, althought rarely, the wrong monitor output can be selected. The other issue is that the monitor cannot support the resolution being requested by the OS due to the monitor not providing the correct resolution information via EDID
[11:00] <habbasi> TJ-: I was thinking resolution too. Is there a way to force it?
[11:00] <habbasi> TJ-: (To a specific resolution)
[11:00] <TJ-> habbasi: usually if the EDID is invalid the driver will only ask for VESA standard resolutions and timings, which all monitors must support
[11:01] <pan-d> hello people new to bit coin
[11:01] <nonickname> how i ignore join and quit msg in to this channel?
[11:01] <TJ-> habbasi: does the Installer you're using have a "Try Ubuntu" option? If so, use that first
[11:02] <cfhowlett> !quietirc | nonickname
[11:02] <habbasi> TJ-: Tried all options, even the disk checking one.
[11:03] <TJ-> habbasi: OK, use the Try Ubuntu option but before starting it press F6 to edit the advanced options and on the kernel command-line that is shown add "nomodeset" and then boot it
[11:03] <TJ-> habbasi: I think it is F6... it does say at the bottom of the boot screen... lower-right corner
[11:03] <MO_Handes> o
[11:06] <bq> how do i check a software version before I run 'apt-get install <software>'?
[11:06] <cfhowlett> bq, apt-get show software
[11:06] <EriC^^> bq: apt-cache policy <package>
[11:06] <nonickname> blah --version
[11:07] <habbasi> TJ-: No dice. Should I switch the mobo to iGPU and then check?
[11:07] <TJ-> habbasi: Ahhh... Optimus? Yes, that is probably going to help :D
[11:07] <habbasi> TJ-: (There is no advanced options key)
[11:07] <pan-d> bitcoin prob
[11:07] <habbasi> TJ-: No. It's a desktop.
[11:07] <pan-d> how do i do transactons , carry out bitcoin shit
[11:08] <bq> cfhowlett: show is an invalid operation
[11:09] <cfhowlett> pan-d, no profanity.
[11:09] <cfhowlett> bq, apt show packagename
[11:09] <TJ-> habbasi: is the system UEFI?
[11:10] <pan-d> sorry cfhowlet
[11:10] <pan-d> but pls can someone hlep me out
[11:10] <TJ-> habbasi: if so it'll only show a GRUB boot menu. The Legacy/ISO9660/El-Torito boot shows those options
[11:11] <cfhowlett> pan-d, this is ubuntu support and bitcoin ... ain't ubuntu.  pretty sure there's a wiki or a reddit explaining things, but it's off-topic here
[11:11] <TJ-> pan-d: this channel is for Ubuntu support only. You'll need to ask in bitcoin-specific channels for that kind of help
[11:12] <int> is reposting my question discouraged here?
[11:12] <int> I don't think anyone read it
[11:12] <bq> EriC^^: that is even simpler
[11:12] <cfhowlett> int, every 10 minutes or so is reasonable interval. ask
[11:12] <int> alright
[11:13] <ubuntu___> hello
[11:13] <int> I'm trying to disable a device on a certain computer
[11:13] <TJ-> int: I'd think the best thing to do would be remove the faulty device
[11:13] <int> I think it's soldered onto the motherboard or something
[11:13] <int> I wish it were that easy
[11:13] <TJ-> int: however, to stop Linux from using the device you can 'blacklist' its driver
[11:13] <int> how would I find it?
[11:13] <TJ-> int: usually WiFi devices in laptops are connected via mini-PCIe slots
[11:13] <ImOk-365> what device?
[11:13] <nonickname> pan-d: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=ubuntu+create+bitcoin+transaction
[11:14] <TJ-> int: "lspci -nnk" will list the devices and the driver in use
[11:14] <int> lmOk-365: AR9285 wireless network adapter
[11:15] <TJ-> int: once you know the driver name, it can be added to a text file in "/etc/modprobe.d/" with a line of the form "blacklist <module-name>"
[11:15] <int> TJ-  that's where the problem appears. Ubuntu completely crashes within a minute or two of powering on
[11:15] <int> I wouldn't be able to do it quickly enough
[11:15] <TJ-> int: Is the system booting from GRUB?
[11:15] <int> not familiar with that
[11:16] <habbasi> TJ-: Will legacy install as UEFI?
[11:16] <nonickname> ubuntu is free but how to force my boss for donate ?
[11:16] <TJ-> int: in which case, hold down shift as the PC is starting until you get the grub boot menu showing, then press 'C' for the command-line, and type "insmod lspci" and then "lspci"
[11:16] <TJ-> habbasi: No. Installation is in the same mode as the installer booted
[11:16] <int> alright. give me a moment
[11:17] <habbasi> TJ-: Difficult to explain, but I have a complex multi-boot setup, and I need UEFI.
[11:17] <nonickname> any way ?
[11:17] <TJ-> int: you may want to have a camera handy to take a photo of the results of 'lspci' to show us, to help ID the device
[11:17] <int> gotcha
[11:17] <habbasi> nonickname: Tell him the Ubuntu devs are doing great work.
[11:17] <cfhowlett> nonickname, forcing your boss - or anyone - to do anything exceeds the range of support offered by this channel
[11:17] <ImOk-365> int, are you sure about this soldered device?
[11:17] <habbasi> nonickname: And they deserve to be rewarded.
[11:18] <int> lmok-365, sorta kinda
[11:18] <ImOk-365> sounds unusual, take another look? i think you could just remove it
[11:18] <int> that's what I read when I googled around for the problem
[11:18] <ImOk-365> or unplug at least
[11:18] <TJ-> habbasi: OK, so when the installer starts you get a GRUB boot menu, yes? In which case highlight the Install entry, press 'e' to edit it, navigate to the line beginning "linux ..." and at then end of the line, but before any double-hyphens (--) add the word "nomodeset" then press either F10 or Ctrl+X to boot with that
[11:19] <TJ-> int: what is the make/model of the PC?
[11:19] <int> TJ-: ASUS N53J
[11:19] <int> lmok-365: I'm too scared to open it up man
[11:20] <int> I could mess something up beyond repair
[11:20] <bithon> die potato!
[11:20] <nonickname> i try to personal support, buying wearables etc, haven't any distro on turkey.
[11:20] <r1k1_> grub dosent kill your laptop bios may if setup wrong
[11:21] <habbasi> TJ-: Same. Wait, let me try something,
[11:21] <Zango> Anybody online inhere?
[11:22] <Zango> Hey Wonderworld!
[11:22] <cfhowlett> Zango, just ask your ubuntu question
[11:22] <TJ-> int: it is plugged in on a connector. see Step 24 of http://www.insidemylaptop.com/disassemble-asus-n53s-laptop-fix-dc-power-jack/
[11:22] <Zango> Which Ubuntu question? o.O
[11:22] <Zango> I thought it is chatroom and not Ubuntu support?
[11:22] <cfhowlett> Zango, this is ubuntu support.
[11:22] <cfhowlett> !topic | Zango
[11:23] <TJ-> !ot | Zango
[11:23] <nonickname> my boss haven't any idea about of "ubuntu", he use 3110 phone !
[11:23] <Zango> okaydokay!
[11:24] <int> TJ-: looks pretty risky.....
[11:24] <int> I could bite the bullet and try it tomorrow
[11:24] <TJ-> int: looks straight-forward to me :) But I can take them apart blindfold by now :p
[11:25] <ImOk-365> int, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1fV1hSxmuc&t=12m20s
[11:25] <habbasi> TJ-: No luck. :/
[11:25] <TJ-> int: in the meantime, if you use the GRUB boot lspci trick we can ID the device and help you blacklist it
[11:25] <TJ-> habbasi: what make/model of PC is that?
[11:25] <int> okay, photo coming up
[11:26] <int> interesting video lmOk-365, I'll keep it around
[11:26] <ImOk-365> but....i may have missed, why driver updates aren't solving anything?
[11:26] <ImOk-365> yeah, that part i linked to is the removal of the wireless card
[11:27] <habbasi> TJ-: Important components are a GA-Z97X-Gaming GT mobo and a GTX 970.
[11:28] <hateball> habbasi: I may have missed some information, but you need a later driver than what is in 15.04 to support GTX970
[11:28] <TJ-> int: I'm going to guess, from the linux source code, the device ID is 168c:002b
[11:29] <Mattias> overdrive: never used chage myself so I don't really know.
[11:29] <habbasi> hateball: Hmm. Is there a way to at least get it to install?
[11:29] <int> yep, that's on the list, labeled "Network controller"
[11:29] <int> anyway, here's the pic
[11:29] <int> https://www.dropbox.com/s/xhnsirk8yh4g6xo/IMG_20150826_212651.jpg?dl=0
[11:30] <TJ-> habbasi: If the nouveau driver doesn't support that device, then it ought to be possible to use the VESA driver
[11:30] <hateball> habbasi: as I said I havent seen all the info. is the main problem you cant boot the install media at all?
[11:30] <ImOk-365> so if testdisk shows my ubuntu partition as "NTFS"  ....that's pretty much hopeless, isn't it?
[11:30] <hateball> habbasi: you should as TJ- says, be able to use VESA driver, then add this PPA https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa and install the latest nvidia drivers
[11:31] <TJ-> hateball: From the installer? not possible!
[11:31] <ImOk-365> i installed another distro and grubbed everything all up i guess,
[11:31] <habbasi> hateball: I can't see anything when I hit try xubuntu
[11:31] <habbasi> ImOk-365: I've had success with TestDisk with worse.
[11:31] <TJ-> hateball: habbasi's problem is the UEFI-based boot of the installer is failing
[11:31] <hateball> TJ-: No, but he should be able to install and then do that from a tty or just running VESA on the installed version
[11:31] <hateball> mhm
[11:32] <ImOk-365> but how can i ....NTFS --> ext4     without losing all the info on that partition?
[11:32] <habbasi> hateball: But how do I get the installer to show?
[11:32] <ImOk-365> how did it even happen, lol
[11:32] <hateball> habbasi, TJ- so not even the splash to choose kernel options etc?
[11:32] <TJ-> habbasi: You say you have other distros on there? how about using one of those, create a virtual machine guest, point it at the hard disk, and attach the installer ISO as a CDROM, and install it that way?
[11:32] <TJ-> hateball: we've tried nomodeset so far
[11:33] <hateball> TJ-: so that much shows at least?
[11:33] <habbasi> TJ-: Not on the USB, no. On the PC, yes.
[11:33] <TJ-> hateball: Yes, the monitor is doing DPMS sleep when the X server starts from the sound of it
[11:33] <hateball> did you try blacklisting nouveau as kernel option ?
[11:33] <TJ-> habbasi: that is what I mean... boot the PC with a working distro, create a VM there, and install using it
[11:34] <habbasi> hateball: How would one do that?
[11:34] <hateball> TJ-, habbasi you add "nouveau.blacklist=yes" at the boot line
[11:34] <TJ-> habbasi: the VM will use a basic virtual GPU so you won't hit the problem... then you can do an install of the required drivers aftewards
[11:34] <TJ-> habbasi: try hateball's suggestion
[11:35] <habbasi> hateball: gfxpayload=keep
[11:35] <TJ-> int: Are you still alive?
[11:35] <habbasi> hateball: Do I remov that?
[11:35] <int> TJ-: yeah, I posted the pic earlier
[11:35] <int> forgot to put your name in the message
[11:35] <hateball> habbasi: you should be able to press F6 to edit the boot parameters, then just type as you normally do, using backspace etc
[11:35] <int> here it is again:
[11:35] <TJ-> int: Yes, it confirmed what I had deduced. Do you know how to boot your PC in Recovery mode?
[11:36] <int> not really!
[11:36] <hateball> habbasi: remove "quiet splash" as well
[11:36] <TJ-> hateball: it is a UEFI boot... uses GRUB .. no function keys, needs direct GRUB menuentry edit
[11:36] <hateball> TJ-: Ah right, my bad
[11:36] <hateball> then it's... I dont remember the keys
[11:36] <hateball> but they show on the interface do they not?
[11:37] <habbasi> hateball: If that goes before ---, no dice.
[11:37] <hateball> ctrl+something to edit, something other to boot
[11:37] <int> TJ-: found it in the grub menu, under "Advanced options for Ubuntu"
[11:37] <brum> Hi. I have question relating to a bash script on ubuntu. Script is called by a .bashrc when a guest user loggs on and it calls another one from within. It works fine (calling the second script) when launched from a terminal but not when started by a .bashrc
[11:37] <TJ-> int: In the same way you just got to the GRUB boot menu, hold down the Shift key at boot until you see the menu... then Choose "Advanced sub-menu". There you'll see several entries, some of which will be named "Recovery ..."... choose the first of those and you'll end up at a text console, and should see a coloured text menu with several options.
[11:38] <TJ-> int: You need to choose "root shell" and that should get you to a console command line prompt.
[11:38] <hateball> habbasi: I dont have a UEFI boot handy and I dont remember, but TJ- perhaps can guide you how to edit the boot options
[11:38] <TJ-> int: I'm hping we can fend off the PC freezing long enough by doing it that way, to give you time to add the blacklist entry
[11:39] <elcrcp> woah! irc still alive :D
[11:39] <habbasi> hateball: I can edit.
[11:39] <TJ-> hateball: UEFI uses regular GRUB boot menu, so highlight entry, press 'E', navigate to line beginning "linux ..." etc
[11:39] <habbasi> hateball: It says the keys right there.
[11:40] <TJ-> int: tell me when/if you get to the command line prompt
[11:40] <hateball> habbasi: so put "nouveau.blacklist=yes" without "" at the end of the line that TJ- said ^ and then boot
[11:40] <int> TJ-: OK, dropped to root shell prompt
[11:41] <habbasi> hateball: It says the keys right there. Already did, no dice.
[11:41] <habbasi> Could it be a USB3 issue?
[11:41] <hateball> habbasi: and what happens? just goes black at once or is it when X loads?
[11:42] <habbasi> hateball: Soon as I select the entry to boot, with or without edits, the monitor turns black and goes to power save after a second or so.
[11:42] <hateball> habbasi: oh ;f
[11:43] <habbasi> hateball: Aftter maybe one message that disappears too fast.
[11:43] <TJ-> int: Type "mount -o remount,rw /"
[11:44] <int> TJ-: done. nothing happened
[11:44] <pan-d> hey people
[11:44] <pan-d> how do i get free bitcoins for a start
[11:44] <brum> whois brum
[11:44] <habbasi> Hello, pan-d.
[11:44] <pan-d> pls
[11:44] <int> to the mines with you, pan-d
[11:44] <TJ-> int: that's always a sign of success.. *nix tools only tell you if something goe wrong
[11:44] <habbasi> pan-d: Short answer: mining. But you lose more on power.
[11:44] <habbasi> pan-d: Than you gain in BTC.
[11:44] <SeerKan`> Hi guys
[11:44] <int> TJ-: Ah, okay
[11:44] <TJ-> int: type "ls /etc/modprobe.d/" so you get an idea of the files there
[11:45] <SeerKan`> Any gluster expert around, have a question I can't seem to find an answer too anywhere..
[11:45] <TJ-> int: now you're going to create the blacklist file: "echo "blacklist ath9k" > /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-ath9k.conf"
[11:45] <TJ-> int: now do "ls /etc/modprobe.d/" again, you should see you file there now
[11:46] <SeerKan`> If I mount a gluster volume from server1 with server2 as backup with the fuse mount, I understand that once server1 is down it will use server2 automatically. But what happens when server1 is back ? will it start automatically use server1 even if it doesn't have the latest data or keep using server2 until it goes down and then go back to server1 ?
[11:46] <TJ-> int: and check its contents with "cat /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-ath9k.conf"
[11:46] <TJ-> int: type "sync" to ensure the disk is updated
[11:47] <TJ-> SeerKan`: That might be a question for #ubuntu-server
[11:47] <SeerKan`> ok thanks TJ-, I will try
[11:48] <brum> Hi. I have question relating to a bash script on ubuntu. Script is called by a .bashrc when a guest user loggs on and it calls another one from within. It works fine (calling the second script) when launched from a terminal but not when started by a .bashrc
[11:48] <int> TJ: it returned "blacklist-ath9k". I guess it worked
[11:48] <int> oops, I meant TJ-
[11:48] <TJ-> int: ahhh... error... that should be "blacklist ath9k" (a space separater)
[11:49] <int> TJ-: oh, there isn't a space. my phone just autocorrected it to that for some reason.
[11:49] <TJ-> int: if that shows a hyphen separator, redo the command:
[11:49] <int> phones are the worst
[11:49] <TJ-> int: Ahhh, DestructivePrediction :)
[11:49] <int> TJ-: you know it
[11:49] <TJ-> int: OK ... you've fixed it (if the WiFi is the problem), you can type "exit" and the choose "resume boot" or whatever the top entry is
[11:50] <TJ-> int: or you can do a complete reboot
[11:50] <int> TJ-: I'll do a clean reboot for the sake of it
[11:52] <U^1> I am trying to record my screen with recordmyscreen. the audio doesn't sync with video. why?
[11:53] <int> TJ-: hell yeah, wireless doesn't appear in my Network list
[11:53] <int> TJ-: I think it should be solved now
[11:54] <int> TJ-: thanks so much, I really appreciate it!
[11:54] <TJ-> int: if you're going to open the laptop up you might consider simply buying an identical model adapter and replacing the existing one, so you have internal workign Wifi again
[11:55] <int> TJ-: I'll definitely consider it. I've been itching to learn how to mess with hardware for months now but never really bothered. This is a good excuse to, I guess.
[11:56] <TJ-> int: see http://www.ebay.com.au/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l1313&_nkw=N53s+wifi&_sacat=0
[11:57] <int> TJ-: oh, they're a lot cheaper than I thought they'd be
[11:58] <TJ-> int: exactly. Just try to be sure you get one with the same Atheros AR9285 chipset, some will be Intel or Ralink or whatever
[11:59] <TJ-> int: although the chipset won't stop it working, the different cards might have different functions, or lack some you expect, such as dual-band, or 802.11n
[12:00] <int> TJ-: Alright, noted. When I do replace it, I'd only have to delete hat blacklist-ath9k.conf file to reverse the block, right?
[12:00] <TJ-> int: correct
[12:00] <int> TJ-: Nice.
[12:00] <TJ-> int: that Intel card top of the listing looks good; I just checked its specs
[12:02] <TJ-> int: search for "Intel 112BNHMW" and that will bring up many more options for a compatible card
[12:04] <BluesKaj> hiyas all
[12:04] <int> TJ-: Yeah, I might get one of those. the other listing you posted were all international items with pretty expensive postage prices
[12:05] <TJ-> int: yeah... I was trying to find you model-specific details to get an idea of compatible devices first, then widen the search based on what was discovered
[12:05] <habbasi> TJ-, hateball: Installing with iGFX for now. Thanks for all the help, mates.
[12:05] <int> TJ-: Ah, alright
[12:06] <TJ-> int any mini-PCI Express half-length card should do of course
[12:07] <hateball> habbasi: good luck. you should be able to add the nvidia PPA as I mentioned tho, and go from there
[12:07] <int> TJ-: I'd imagine so, the chip itself is a pretty generic wireless card from what I know.
[12:08] <TJ-> int: yes, the limiter is the size of the space in the laptop and the screw posts mena it has to be half-length
[12:08] <habbasi> hateball: Care to link me?
[12:09] <hateball> habbasi: https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[12:09] <habbasi> hateball: (This backscrolls and I lose it.
[12:09] <habbasi> hateball: Thanks mate.
[12:10] <BluesKaj> looking for a method to delete ramdisk that a family member thought could benefit the speed of this older pc, however I don't see any benefit. I'd like to remove it if poossibel.
[12:34] <mentazoom> Last 3 times like 6 months ago and before that when I installed Catalyst for AMD drivers my ubuntu crashed all the time
[12:34] <mentazoom> Is it worth to try it now?
[12:34] <mentazoom> I want to play games and catalyst runs them faster
[12:35] <lucyfurnice> did you try the experimental drivers?
[12:35] <lucyfurnice> did you install from the website or use jockey?
[12:35] <fps_> sup
[12:35] <mentazoom> lucyfurnice: Do you mean beta catalyst?
[12:35] <lucyfurnice> ya
[12:35] <mentazoom> could be
[12:35] <baizon> mentazoom: well, i run them on my open source drivers, and everything works fine :)
[12:35] <mentazoom> I want to run CS GO, it doesn't run well with open source drivers
[12:36] <mentazoom> I can try again first with open source now, but does the stable catalyst crash Ubuntu for others too?
[12:38] <lucyfurnice> it works fine for me with HD 7900 series Mobile
[12:38] <lucyfurnice> When my laptop is fixed today by dell i will check it out, the opensource and the proprietary ones
[12:38] <mentazoom> I have 5850, maybe too old?
[12:38] <lucyfurnice> it shouldnt be =/
[12:39] <lucyfurnice> lol, on a side note, the video card in this pc has 128mb ram and it is running well with nvidia proprietary drivers
[12:39] <lucyfurnice> I suppose that is different since the maker is different.
[12:39] <mentazoom> You have nvidia, they have better drivers don't they?
[12:40] <lucyfurnice> I'm not really sure about that for linux. I remember hearing about that a couple years ago for linux. Nvidia seemed to be the preferred thing for linux. Both of them seem fine to me =/
[12:40] <mentazoom> Is there a way to change main monitor with dual monitors? The game is starting on wrong screen...
[12:40] <BotchlaB> "Nvidia seemed to be the preferred thing for linux."
[12:41] <lucyfurnice> BotchlaB: ^ true/false?
[12:41] <TJ-> mentazoom: set the Primary
[12:41] <BotchlaB> SOmewhat off-topic, but just look up the video with Linus Torvalds, of all people, flipping Nvidia off in public and telling them "FU".
[12:41] <BotchlaB> And decide for yourself if it's 'the preferred thing for Linux'.
[12:42] <mentazoom> TJ-: I can't find anything which says primary at Display settings
[12:42] <lucyfurnice> haha
[12:42] <lucyfurnice> I love him.
[12:42] <lucyfurnice> He helped me create a system of identity disassociation in which there is three layers around the individual
[12:43] <mentazoom> TJ-: Oh I had to set launcher where to which monitor I want as primary
[12:43] <bazhang> lucyfurnice, BotchlaB take the chit chat elsewhere please
[12:43] <lucyfurnice> not personally help, but with his kernel structure, or os structure.
[12:43] <lucyfurnice> kk
[12:43] <lucyfurnice> go ahead and sercice some more nubs
[12:44] <bazhang> thats uncalled for and unwelcome lucyfurnice
[12:44] <lucyfurnice> robot.
[12:44] <Guest21581> hi
[12:44] <mentazoom> yea the FPS is horrible with open source drivers
[12:45] <mentazoom> I'm afraid of catalyst, last time I had to reinstall
[12:48] <mentazoom> Should I try 'automatically detect and install your drivers' at AMD site?
[12:49] <ioria> mentazoom, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/AMD
[12:49] <fps_> bazhanga
[12:52] <mentazoom> ioria: When I do the 'manual check' on drivers, the site doesn't respond..
[12:52] <bb_> !list
[12:52] <ioria> mentazoom, have you filled all the fields ?
[12:52] <bb_> !list
[12:52] <mentazoom> The form just resets when I click 'display results'
[12:53] <mentazoom> yea
[12:53] <ioria> mentazoom, laptop, hd5850 , ubuntu 64 bit ?
[12:54] <OerHeks> Don't use the drivers from the AMD site, use the build-in restricted driver tool
[12:54] <mentazoom> ioria: Desktop and correct
[12:54] <ioria> mentazoom, http://support.amd.com/en-us/download/desktop?os=Ubuntu%20x86%2064
[12:55] <mentazoom> ioria: I just download the latest from there?
[12:55] <ioria> mentazoom, but if you can use the ones delivered by your distro
[12:55] <mentazoom> ioria: Which one?
[12:55] <OerHeks> yeah, don't point to amd site, so we can fix the error later :-(
[12:56] <OerHeks> mentazoom, Don't use the drivers from the AMD site, use the build-in restricted driver tool
[12:56] <ioria> mentazoom, first you should read the page linked and understand  the risks of doing that
[12:56] <mentazoom> OerHeks: How can I do that
[12:57] <mentazoom> ioria: I don't find HD 5850 for desktop at supported products on that page
[12:57] <OerHeks> mentazoom, type driver in dash/search and the icon should pop up
[12:58] <mentazoom> Could I just do System Setting -> updates -> drivers and choose fglrx from there?
[12:58] <OerHeks> Yes, that is the one
[12:58] <OerHeks> (you would get updates too)
[12:58] <mentazoom> OerHeks: fglrx or fglrx-updates
[12:58] <ioria> mentazoom, the safest way is with Additional Driver
[12:59] <mentazoom> ioria: Hmm, but that list doesn't say HD 5850 for desktop is supported on that page?
[12:59] <OerHeks> fglrx is stable, updates can give a newer driver.
[13:00] <vins> ashley madison hack list
[13:00] <mentazoom>  So I'm getting two opinions, AMD site and the inbuilt in Ubuntu, what should I do, I don't want Ubuntu to crash all the time again
[13:00] <mentazoom> I'm newb so it's hard to fix stuff for me
[13:00] <Pinkamena_D> how to correctly update mesa driver?
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[13:01] <ioria> mentazoom, the safest way is with Additional Driver
[13:01] <OerHeks> !ops
[13:01] <ioria> mentazoom, the ubuntu help page i linked worth a read, believe me
[13:01] <mentazoom> ioria: Can I download form that site even if it doesn't say that 5xxx series are supported for desktop?
[13:02] <ioria> mentazoom, the HD 5 is supported
[13:02] <mentazoom> ioria: So I can just follow the 3.1 step?
[13:03] <ioria> mentazoom, no, read all the page, and then think about it and decide
[13:03] <mentazoom> ioria: The if I choose fglrx from Ubuntu, they can crash OS?
[13:04] <ioria> mentazoom, why ?
[13:04] <OerHeks> there is only one way to find out :-D
[13:05] <mentazoom> ioria: Just wondering if you it's unstable because you said that it's safest with Catalyst
[13:05] <ioria> mentazoom, no,  i said the safest way is with Additional Driver
[13:05] <mrrobot_> hi
[13:06] <mentazoom> ok ty will try that then
[13:12] <walac> hi, my wired network stopped to work after an update yesterday, I cannot even ping my router. I setup eth0 interface and routing table by hand but it didn't work. dmesg shows no problem. Anyone experiencing this same problem?
[13:13] <OerHeks> walac, wired, that is strange, tried to reset your router ?
[13:13] <walac> OerHeks: yep, I have a Windows installation in another partition, and it works fine
[13:14] <TJ-> walac: probably the ethernet interface has changed its name
[13:15] <Flames> Hi can anyone help me with a ubuntu installation problem
[13:15] <EriC^^> Flames: what's the problem?
[13:15] <walac> TJ-: let me check
[13:16] <Flames> Basically I installed Ubuntu on virtualbox and just finished the installation. It asked me to reboot and I did and then asked for password
[13:16] <Flames> When I enter the password it just shows a purple screen and goes back to the login screen
[13:16] <walac> TJ-: nope, it is still the same
[13:17] <TJ-> walac: what kind of upgrade was it? did it include a kernel upgrade?
[13:17] <TJ-> walac: also are you able to pastebin the result of "lspci -nnk" ?
[13:17] <walac> TJ-: I didn't check, I did it through automatic update
[13:18] <EriC^^> Flames: ok, did you checksum the .iso?
[13:19] <Flames> No
[13:19] <TJ-> Flames: EriC^^ sounds like a Unity/no GPU 3D acceleration issue
[13:19] <walac> TJ-: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/8843942
[13:20] <TJ-> walac: so the Ethernet device is "00:19.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Intel Corporation Ethernet Connection I217-LM [8086:153a] (rev 04)" ?
[13:20] <walac> TJ-: yep
[13:20] <TJ-> walac: can you "pastebinit /var/log/dmesg" ?
[13:20] <EriC^^> Flames: are you using virtualbox?
[13:20] <Flames> Yes
[13:21] <EriC^^> TJ-: yeah, but i usually don't choose any non-default options
[13:21] <TJ-> EriC^^: does VB provide GPU acceleration by default, or does it need support in the guest?
[13:21] <EriC^^> Flames: try going to settings > display and set the memory to 128M and maybe enable 3D if it doesn't work
[13:23] <EriC^^> TJ-: there are some drivers you can install later, but usually i just install with the default settings and it works
[13:23] <Flames> Thanks, i'll try and let you know
[13:24] <EriC^^> it has "enable 3d acceleration and 2d video acceleration but both aren't enabled by default, i do increase the video memory to 128M though
[13:24] <EriC^^> Flames: ok
[13:24] <walac> TJ-: cat /var/log/dmesg shows "(Nothing has been logged yet.). Here is the output of the dmesg command: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/8843944
[13:27] <akik> virtualbox 4.3 had some custom opengl implementation. it did work only with some combination of virtualbox and ubuntu
[13:27] <TJ-> walac: ahhh, the joys of systemd journald!
[13:28] <habbasi> Fellas, I'm back. Can't get screen to show with Ubuntu. Can get into Ubuntu from Recovery > Resume. GTX 970 and GA-Z97X-Gaming GT.
[13:29]  * walac looks at journald logs, but understands nothing
[13:29] <onicrom> anyone setup sr-iov and kvm before?
[13:29] <Flames> no luck Eric
[13:29] <habbasi> (Black screen, monitor goes into power save)
[13:30] <habbasi> Already installed nvidia-255 from the PPA.
[13:30] <habbasi> Also, Get message starting version 219.
[13:30] <habbasi> Just before black screen.
[13:31] <TJ-> walac: well the e1000e with eth0 seems to have started OK according to that. what does "ip link show dev eth0" report?
[13:32] <EriC^^> Flames: try right ctrl+f1, login
[13:33] <walac> TJ-: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/8843945
[13:34] <Voronich> Hi!
[13:34] <TJ-> walac: what happens if you try "sudo ip link set dev eth0 up"
[13:34] <Voronich> Im new user on linux.
[13:35] <Voronich> Its amazing
[13:35] <walac> TJ-: it works, I can even add a IPV4 address to it
[13:37] <pan-d> how do i bypass my ISP
[13:38] <pan-d> bypass ISP portal how do i do it
[13:38] <TJ-> walac: has that solved the issue, or is there something more required?
[13:39] <Flames> I'm getting login incorrect
[13:39] <compdoc> pan-d, get a new one
[13:39] <pan-d> lol compdoc
[13:39] <walac> TJ-: it doesn't work, if I setup routing table and try to ping my router, it doesn't work
[13:39] <TJ-> walac: if not, pastebin "sudo ethtool eth0"
[13:39] <pan-d> walac whats the issue
[13:40] <TJ-> pan-d: you can't bypass your ISP
[13:40] <pan-d> TJ heard about dns tunneling but the technics too complicated with linux
[13:40] <TJ-> pan-d: what do you mean by portal then?
[13:41] <pan-d> yeah TJ i mean portal
[13:41] <TJ-> pan-d: you mean you want to use HTTP without going through an authorisation stage?
[13:41] <pan-d> yeah, you right TJ
[13:41] <dxt_> Hi there, I want to ask some java questions, which channel could I join?
[13:41] <Flames> Actually it says welcome to ubuntu now but how do I boot up?
[13:42] <walac> TJ-: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/8843949
[13:42] <TJ-> pan-d: that's not something we will help with here, since presumably it is against the Terms of Service of the ISP
[13:43] <TJ-> walac: the link is up... are you sure the switch/router it is connected to isn't blocking it? Is there any VLAN involved?
[13:43] <pan-d> thanks TJ i get it
[13:43] <pan-d> so what's walac's prob
[13:43] <walac> TJ-: yes, I am. No vlan involved
[13:43] <TJ-> walac: "sudo tcpdump -vvni eth0" might give you a clue if there are any IP packets on the link
[13:44] <TJ-> walac: you may see STP adverts and other packets, which would confirm the link is alive and working
[13:45] <TJ-> walac: I'd also be trying a known-good ethernet cable on the basis the current one might be damaged
[13:45] <walac> TJ-: yes, I see
[13:45] <habbasi> Xubuntu screen going to power save after spinning boot screen and message "Starting version 219".
[13:45] <walac> TJ-: I don't think it is hardware problem, everything works in my windows partition
[13:45] <TJ-> walac: if the Tx cores are damaged you might see incoming packets but be unable to get transmitted packets to the switch
[13:46] <TJ-> walac: Hmmm... well, put something on the other end of the cable and use tcpdump there to see if it is receiving packets
[13:46] <EriC^^> Flames: try cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | nc termbin.com 9999
[13:46] <EriC^^> paste the link here
[13:48] <TJ-> walac: another issue could be some kind of power-save mode the interface has been put into, but as you've got a link up and can see packets I doubt that
[13:48] <mcphail> habbasi: version 219 of what?
[13:48] <TJ-> walac: you haven't got some local firewall rules blocking everything have you?
[13:48] <habbasi> mcphail: Doesn't say.
[13:49] <TJ-> habbasi: that's just systemd/udevd version left on console
[13:49] <habbasi> mcphail: That's the entire message. I can get in by Advanced Options > Recovery > Resume
[13:50] <walac> TJ-: thank you very much for all the help, I'll keep investigating here
[13:50] <mcphail> habbasi: graphics driver problem?
[13:51] <habbasi> mcphail: I thought so too. So Iwent in, installed nvidia-355 and still no dice.
[13:51] <habbasi> mcphail: nomodset and nouveau.disable=yes have no effect.
[13:51] <mcphail> habbasi: nomodset or nomodeset?
[13:52] <Kurolox> Hello, is there any way to get working a piece of hardware in linux that only have windows drivers?
[13:52] <Flames> http://termbin.com/sdbn
[13:52] <habbasi> mcphail: ... I've been spelling it wrong this whole time? :/
[13:52] <habbasi> mcphail: Let me try and report back.
[13:53] <mcphail> habbasi: it stops kernel mode setting
[13:54] <EriC^^> Flames: try without the mouse maybe
[13:54] <underwear> bazhang 是个傻逼
[13:54] <underwear> bazhang 是个傻逼
[13:54] <EriC^^> Flames: remove the mouse and type sudo service lightdm restart
[13:54] <underwear> bazhang 是个傻逼
[13:56] <Kurolox> So there's no way?
[13:57] <mcphail> Kurolox: if you are _sure_ there are no linux drivers for the hardware, it probably will not work. But remember linux has drivers for most hardware already built-in
[13:58] <mcphail> Kurolox: so perhaps you should be a bit more specific about your problem, rather than asking hypotheticals
[13:58] <Kalimero> is anyone familiar with darkstat?
[13:58] <Kurolox> mcphail the hardware is connected, there's nothing for it in the additional drivers window and all the drivers for that specific hardware in the web page are only for windows
[13:59] <leeyaa> hello
[13:59] <OerHeks> Kurolox, so what hardware exactly?
[13:59] <leeyaa> is it possible to limit unattended-upgrade to 64 bit packages only ?
[13:59] <Kurolox> AverTV H727 HD
[14:00] <mcphail> Kurolox: and you are sure it doesn't work by default? Have you tried a piece of software like vlc to see if it can read the card?
[14:00] <Kurolox> I tried, there's no signal at all
[14:01] <mcphail> Kurolox: and is there any mention of the card in the logs (type "dmesg") after it is plugged in?
[14:01] <TJ-> Kurolox: check "/var/log/dmesg" - it may require firmware loading
[14:02] <Kurolox> In var/log/dmesg nothing has been logged yet
[14:02] <pagios> anyone using a chromebook tohsiba 2?
[14:03] <mfec> xhydra
[14:03] <habbasi> mcphail: Worked!
[14:03] <OerHeks> Kurolox, indeed, a quick search learns there is no solution (yet) http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/tnt & http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/AVerMedia
[14:04] <mcphail> habbasi: nice one
[14:04]  * habbasi hugs mcphail and TJ-
[14:04] <TJ-> Kurolox: ok, use "dmesg | less" and you can page through it. press / to start searching for text, G to goto end of file, gg to go to top of file, q to quit
[14:04] <TJ-> habbasi: so it was a typo from the earliest point then? a missing 'e' ?
[14:04] <habbasi> TJ-: Yep. :/
[14:04] <TJ-> well %$%^^&&!
[14:05] <habbasi> I'll hang around and help sometimes. :D
[14:06] <Kurolox> OerHeks, should I be able to workarround it with a virtual machine running windows? Since is an internal card I don't really know if the VM will detect it
[14:06] <OerHeks> Kurolox, if the host is windows, maybe
[14:07] <Kurolox> I'm gonna try that and see what happens. I don't really need to make this working, but that would be awesome
[14:09] <mcphail> Kurolox: I don't think you are going to find a non-ugly way to make that card work
[14:11] <mcphail> Kurolox: I have an avermedia tv stick which is supported on linux, but the signal quality is awful. I will be avoiding their products in the future
[14:11] <TJ-> signal quality usually is a function of a poor antenna
[14:12] <mcphail> TJ-: plugged straight in to high quality antenna
[14:12] <mcphail> TJ-: works under windows
[14:13] <TJ-> mcphail: sounds like a firmware issue, unless the driver isn't fully supported
[14:13] <mcphail> TJ-: yes. I hacked ont his for ages before giving up. But suppose we are straying offtopic ;)
[14:14] <ethel> coucou
[14:15] <ethel> hi
[14:15] <pagios> anyone using a chromebook?
[14:15] <somsip> pagios: you looking for a different answer from the one you got earlier about ubuntu on your chromebook?
[14:16] <TJ-> mcphail: not really; could be an Ubuntu kernel/packaging issue :) I saw some issues with a WinTV 3-head card some time ago but eventually upstreamed the fixes for those, but not seen any issues where software caused poor signal. That suggests the signal isn't being amplified sufficiently. Are you able to extract an SNR report from the device?
[14:16] <pagios> dead searching for an answer
[14:17] <ioria> watch -n 1 cat /proc/net/wireless
[14:17] <somsip> pagios: [07:07] <minimec> pagios: MIght be tricky with the Toshiba Chromebook. "Toshiba CB2 does not have Seabios..." from here http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/answers/id-2400256/install-ubuntu-toshiba-chromebook-crouton.html
[14:17] <pagios> somsip: my problem is having my android phone being detected on ubntun crouton
[14:17] <mcphail> TJ-: I have lost interest in it entirely as my TV needs are met by online services these days. If you live in the UK I'd be happy to send it to you if you want to hack with it.
[14:18] <TJ-> mcphail: ahhh... I use my devices for SDR based signals analysis
[14:19] <mcphail> TJ-: sounds fun :)
[14:24] <Norbin> I have a new computer with an i5 skylake, ddr4 ram and an AMD radeon 390... i'd LOVE to run ubuntu on it (Currently on Win 10), been wanting to make the change for years now... How  compatible will be it with my hardware? I'd like to also be able to run games (Steam for linux) etc etc... I heard bad things about radeon GPUs & linux support, Please advise
[14:27] <R13ose> How do I sign a docx document on ubuntu?
[14:28] <minimec> pagios: Just to rule out the MTP problem I mentioned before. Does ChromeOS recognize the phone? Because ChromeOS added support for MTP now. http://www.omgchrome.com/android-file-transfer-mrp-chrome-os/
[14:29] <pagios> minimec: thanks for your concern, i tried that the phone does not show
[14:31] <U-bantu>  hello , i am having  a installation problem . ubuntu-15.04-desktop-i386 , i am new to UBUNTU i tried downloading power iso and installing using it . UBUNTU did not install . I removed teh power iso software an now i do not know how to install the os on my windows? can i get any help here?
[14:31] <minimec> pagios: So verify, that... 1.) ChromeOS is up to date; 2.) enable 'file transfer' only on the phone, no dev mode or what so ever. As long as CHromeOS doesn't see the phone, Chrubuntu cannot either, using the same kernel...
[14:32] <mcphail> Norbin: most of the games which are available for linux will run on an AMD GPU. That's not to say it won't be without pain
[14:33] <mcphail> Norbin: to be honest, most of the games which are available for linux will run on my low-end AMD APU using open source drivers. There aren't many graphically demanding linux games
[14:34] <Norbin> mcphail any idea what's the story about amd drivers for linux being really poor for the new cards?
[14:35] <mcphail> Norbin: the proprietary drivers are awful for any card, but do have the best compatibility and performance. Not sure how well your card is supported by the open source drivers.
[14:35] <mcphail> Norbin: but you'd probably need a cutting-edge kernel for your CPU anyway
[14:36] <mcphail> Norbin: if your card is supported well by open source drivers, the experience is very good
[14:36] <minimec> pagios: As a workaround: Install AirDroid on the phone and do your file transfer over WiFi... ;)
[14:36] <pagios> minimec: the weird thing is lsusb doesnt show the phone
[14:36] <pagios> nothing is changed when i plug or unplug
[14:37] <pagios> same lusb output
[14:37] <pagios> the cable is fine since when i use it and plug in another laptop it works
[14:38] <mcphail> Norbin: the only graphically-intensive game I have in my library is Shadows of Mordor, and I hink you still need an nVidia card to play that
[14:38] <Norbin> Why? drivers wise ?
[14:38] <pagios> minimec: i am on latest stable release 44.0.2403
[14:38] <mcphail> Norbin: yes, drivers
[14:38] <U-bantu> hello , i am having  a installation problem . ubuntu-15.04-desktop-i386 , i am new to UBUNTU i tried downloading power iso and installing using it . UBUNTU did not install . I removed teh power iso software an now i do not know how to install the os on my windows? can i get any help here?
[14:38] <honkmotor> Hello! When I hit the function keys (F1-F12) not the function is invoked (for example F5 does not reaload in Firefox) but the "special function" of my laptop. Any idea why it is that way? I tried hitting/toggling the Fn key but that does not have any effect.
[14:39] <Norbin> mcphail i see, so the drivers on the amd site are considered the open source ones ?
[14:39] <mcphail> Norbin: no. The open source ones are built in to your linux distro by default
[14:39] <Norbin> oh
[14:39] <mcphail> Norbin: they are updated by using a newer kernel and mesa stack
[14:40] <muelli> honkmotor: I have the same with my X240. But I made it somehow so that the Fn key is illuminated. Now I get proper F-keys.
[14:40] <Norbin> And "fglrx", that's some 3rd party drivers ?
[14:40] <mcphail> Norbin: that is the AMD proprietary driver
[14:40] <Norbin> i see...
[14:40] <pagios> minimec: i only see in dmesg: xhci_hcd setting latency timer to 64
[14:40] <pagios> everytime i plug the phone via usb
[14:41] <mcphail> Norbin: best to install from the Ubuntu repos rather than the AMD site, though
[14:41] <honkmotor> muelli: looks like its turned on its head on my machine. holding Fn makes the F-keys work normally.
[14:41] <mcphail> Norbin: if you google for "Ubuntu binarydriverhowto" you'll find a page on AMD
[14:42] <Norbin> i think i will install ubuntu on a secondary SSD that i have and i don't use, see how things goes, and then decide whether or not i am ok with the overall performance of the whole system
[14:42] <auronandace> !ati | Norbin
[14:42] <Kalimero> is it possible to change the displayed traffic of darkstat from bytes to kbytes /mbytes?
[14:43] <mcphail> Norbin: good idea. You may struggle getting it to run, as your CPU may not be supported by the current Ubuntu kernel (which is a bit old)
[14:43] <ki7rw> i don't know if this is OT but i'll ask anyway - is it really necessary to use vpn when making SSL (https) connections? or does SSL connections bypass the vpn?
[14:43] <OerHeks> Kalimero, man darkstat # should give you a clue
[14:44] <minimec> pagios: there is a reddit thread, where they also mention that mtp is not working on Crouton. (search for 'mtp') -> https://www.reddit.com/r/chromeos/comments/1w1vvb/how_well_does_your_android_device_work_with_your/
[14:44] <mcphail> ki7rw: depends whether you want to show your real IP address, I suppose
[14:44] <U-bantu> hello , i am having  a installation problem . ubuntu-15.04-desktop-i386 , i am new to UBUNTU i tried downloading power iso and installing using it . UBUNTU did not install . I removed teh power iso software an now i do not know how to install the os on my windows? can i get any help here?
[14:45] <Norbin> i see, thanks... i will t ry it now
[14:45] <Kalimero> OerHeks, i looked at it already but first there is no option and second it concerns only the terminal output. I want to change the traffic values of the web-based monitor
[14:45] <Norbin> thanks auronandace for hte link, reading it now
[14:45] <honkmotor> muelli: found it! there is a function key for switching the mode :) curious if that will survive a reboot. alternatively, maybe there is a bios setting for that.
[14:46] <muelli> honkmotor: mind sharing your make and model and how you've "solved" your problem?  for the archives...
[14:46] <honkmotor> muelli: its the dell xps 13. i just hold Fn and then hit ESC
[14:46] <BluesKaj> U-bantu:  are you using a VM to install ubuntu?
[14:46] <honkmotor> muelli: on the ESC key, there is a little "Fn" symbol with a lock.. Thats how I guessed it.
[14:47] <honkmotor> muelli: the xps 13 is a completely amazing machine. only thing that behaves a bit strange is the touchpad. looks like "palm detection" is needed but somehow does not work.
[14:48] <Norbin> can u guys please confirm the instructions posted here are "safe" for installing ubuntu on a secondary HDD? wouldnt want to screw up my main ssd/window install: http://askubuntu.com/questions/312782/how-to-install-ubuntu-on-separate-hard-drive-in-a-dual-boot
[14:48] <OerHeks> Kalimero, well, i don't see that option either
[14:49] <Norbin> it's a completely different physical ssd, not partition or anything.
[14:49] <OerHeks> Norbin, depends where you place grub2, it should be on the main drive that boots
[14:50] <BluesKaj> U-bantu:  what is power iso? a burning app?
[14:50] <Medax>  /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER Medax eexsdvvjhawk
[14:50] <OerHeks> Medax, change your password :-)
[14:50] <U-bantu> BluesKaj: i think it is some thing like that
[14:51] <BluesKaj> U-bantu:  do you know what a virtual machine or VM is ?
[14:51] <honkmotor> Norbin: if you choose the correct hd/partition, the windows partition will not be changed.
[14:52] <U-bantu> BluesKaj: no
[14:53] <honkmotor> Norbin: the only thing that could get fucked up then is the boot sector. but in my experience it always worked without problems. and a messeda up boot sector can usually easily be repaired if it is messed up.
[14:54] <BluesKaj> Hobbyboy:  no need for the 'f' word
[14:54] <BluesKaj> oops he left
[14:54] <Norbin> so My setup right now is this: Disk 0 = Windows (spliited into 3 partitions, 450MB recovery, 100mb EFI, 232GB Boot/primary, "C") - Disk1 120GB SSD which is an empty NTFS (Where I want ubuntu installed), and another Disk2+Disk3 which are storage NTFS HDDs...
[14:55] <vertago1> Hey I was testing 15.10 on one of my systems and ran into a potential issue with dm-raid and systemd's fsck at boot. Any tips on how to get at any log information which would help me out?
[14:55] <U-bantu> BluesKaj: i have the downloaded iso file
[14:55] <OerHeks> vertago1, support in #ubuntu+1 until release
[14:55] <degorenko> hello here! Is here anyone around, who can help me? I want to fix this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sahara/+bug/1452698 I found this instruction: http://packaging.ubuntu.com/html/fixing-a-bug.html is it correct?
[14:56] <vertago1> OerHeks, thanks
[14:57] <jjavaholic> !taptoclick
[14:58] <jjavaholic> what is tap to click?
[14:59] <auronandace> jjavaholic: sounds like you are referring to using a touchpad, where you tap on it and it is registered as a left click on a mouse
[15:00] <auronandace> as opposed to using the buttons
[15:01] <pagios> minimec: it works fine on my old note3
[15:01] <pagios> note4 doesnt work
[15:01] <pagios> so it is a phone issue i think
[15:02] <U-bantu> i am having  a installation problem . ubuntu-15.04-desktop-i386 , i am new to UBUNTU i tried downloading power iso and installing using it . UBUNTU did not install . I removed teh power iso software an now i do not know how to install the os on my windows? can i get any help here?
[15:05] <minimec> pagios: I see. So that crouton 'thing' is rather good...
[15:05] <Norbin> am i better off with 15.04 for a new skylake rig ?
[15:06] <mkanyicy> U-bantu: you should write the ubuntu iso to the DVD and use that to boot ubuntu and try it out without installing it first
[15:06] <auronandace> U-bantu: you burn the iso to a disk then boot from it, you don't install it from inside windows
[15:06] <mkanyicy> U-bantu: then you can continue installing it using the DVD if you wish to do so
[15:07] <mkanyicy> U-bantu: but you need to shutdown windows and start the computer and boot from disk (you might need to press F2 or F8 or F12 or Del) depending on your machine and choose boot from disk on Bios settings
[15:09] <U-bantu> auronandace: mkanyicy: thanks for the response but i get that  there is a way to install in from inside windows  do you know any thing about it?
[15:10] <auronandace> U-bantu: you could install it in a vm. virtualbox is a good place to start
[15:11] <U-bantu> do i need to download virtual box?
[15:11] <auronandace> U-bantu: indeed
[15:11] <Norbin> yeah.. or vmware player
[15:11] <Norbin> both free
[15:11] <Norbin> i find vmplayer much better
[15:11] <Norbin> always getting random errors on virtual box o0
[15:11] <compdoc> U-bantu, just install the package
[15:11] <auronandace> U-bantu: vitualbox is free and open source, vmplayer is free but closed source, the choice is yours
[15:13] <U-bantu> auronandace:Norbin:compdoc: thank you all i will  try
[15:13] <EriC^^> U-bantu: don't use wubi
[15:13] <EriC^^> in case it comes up while you're searching or so
[15:14] <TJ-> Grrr; after all this time found a really annoying bug in libvirt/virt-manager! Connecting a Host USB device has the user select by the device's position on the bus, but then it tries to start guest using the device's Vendor:Product ID - so if there are more than 1 device it fails the entire VM
[15:14] <zetheroo> Howdy ... where does upstart store it's error logs?
[15:15] <Nokaji> Hi, installed external HDD, reformatted with gparted to Ext3 - problem I can't get r/w permissions, can't get 'chown' to work for me either
[15:15] <auronandace> !upstart | zetheroo perhaps your answer is here
[15:15] <TJ-> zetheroo: "/var/log/upstart/" surprisingly :)
[15:15] <Nokaji> zetheroo: If hey are huge (GBs), the will show up on disk usage
[15:16] <EriC^^> Nokaji: how are you mounting it?
[15:16] <EriC^^> also why ext3, why not ext4?
[15:16] <zetheroo> ok, I saw the log in /var/logs/ ... but it was empty ...
[15:16] <Nokaji> EriC^^: Tried variously through disks, gparted and right click, not tried terminal
[15:16] <zetheroo> closed and reopened it now and there is something in there :)
[15:17] <TJ-> zetheroo: Is the system using upstart, or systemd?
[15:17] <Nokaji> tried re-connecting cable too
[15:17] <EriC^^> Nokaji: try typing lsblk | nc termbin.com 9999
[15:17] <Nokaji> ok
[15:18] <ubuntu-noob> hello i put ubuntu mate in a 8gb usb whit unebootin
[15:18] <Nokaji> EriC^^:  http://termbin.com/aqtc
[15:18] <ubuntu-noob> i thik i was instaling it but it dinot remenber my configuration
[15:18] <ubuntu-noob> how do i install it
[15:19] <Nokaji> EriC^^: It's the line with - sdc1    8:33   0 232.9G  0 part /media/tris/V 250GB BU
[15:21] <EriC^^> Nokaji: ok, if you type touch "/media/tris/V 250GB BU/something"
[15:21] <EriC^^> what do you get?
[15:23] <Nokaji> EriC^^: I typed the whole thing [touch "/media/tris/V 250GB BU/something"] - I get 'permission denied
[15:23] <EriC^^> type ls -ld "/media/tris/V 250GB BU"
[15:23] <EriC^^> Nokaji: and id
[15:24] <Nokaji> EriC^^:  uid=1000(tris) gid=1000(tris) groups=1000(tris),4(adm),24(cdrom),27(sudo),30(dip),46(plugdev),108(lpadmin),124(sambashare),126(kismet)
[15:26] <daniel72-72> Hi! Can someone help me. I'm trying to create a live flash drive using !usb but when I use it I get the msg Failed to load COM32 file gfxboot.c32  Am i doing something wrong or is it the software? Thanks!
[15:27] <EriC^^> daniel72-72: how are you creating the live usb?
[15:29] <Nokaji> daniel72-72: UNetbootin is one tool you could try
[15:29] <daniel72-72> Using Startup Disk Creator
[15:30] <EriC^^> daniel72-72: try using dd, and if you have a different usb try it
[15:30] <EriC^^> most likely it's a bad usb
[15:30] <Koyaanis> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRWrmT0ovPE
[15:31] <EriC^^> daniel72-72: did you checksum the .iso?
[15:32] <EriC^^> daniel72-72: i think it's a problem with startup disk creator, dd should work
[15:32] <minimec> daniel72-72: I guess I can help you. When you get the message, hit the 'TAB' key. You have to add some memory information for the kernel to boot. Add 'mem=2048M'.
[15:32] <EriC^^> daniel72-72: also there's a workaround https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/usb-creator/+bug/1360823
[15:34] <Nokaji> EriC^^: Oh, I have a Lost+Found folder on the drive (the only thing there) plus possibly 3.8GB being used, mysteriously
[15:34] <T-virus> hi people i'm using www.intodns.com but my mail always gets in-addr.arpa ->  not-assigned
[15:35] <T-virus> how can i get the mail server sign on XXX.in-addr.arpa
[15:35] <T-virus> ?
[15:35] <dabdab> hi guys, i was trying to make build and install avconv in ubuntu 14.04 found in here http://askubuntu.com/questions/544533/how-to-install-avconv-with-libfdk-aac-on-ubuntu-14-04
[15:36] <dabdab> but unfortunately i cant make it function the way it should be
[15:36] <dabdab> i follow all the instruction there, but no luck
[15:37] <dabdab> please help
[15:37] <EriC^^> Nokaji: did you type ls -ld ..... ?
[15:37] <dabdab> not yet
[15:37] <dabdab> whats that for?
[15:38] <EriC^^> Nokaji: the 3.8G might be the 5% or so that is reserved in case the fs gets full
[15:38] <Nokaji> oh, sorry, missed the ls-ld bit ... gimee a moment ...
[15:38] <dabdab> oh sorry EriC^^
[15:38] <EriC^^> :)
[15:40] <Nokaji> EriC^^:      drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 Aug 26 13:12 /media/tris/V 250GB BU
[15:40] <U-bantu> what is wubi.exe?
[15:40] <EriC^^> U-bantu: something evil
[15:40] <U-bantu> oh oo-)
[15:41] <EriC^^> Nokaji: ok, type sudo umount /dev/sdc1
[15:41] <teward> !wubi | U-bantu
[15:42] <Nokaji> EriC^^: okay, is the next bit remount via terminal/sudo?
[15:42] <EriC^^> Nokaji: no, open the file manager and click on the partition to mount it
[15:42] <U-bantu> ubottu: Ok
[15:42] <daniel72-72> Thanks for the help guys!! I aways get an answer arround here!
[15:42] <Nokaji> ok - nautilus?
[15:43] <EriC^^> yeah
[15:43] <qdii> hey, how would you guys check what package installed a given file on the computer
[15:43] <EriC^^> qdii: dpkg -S <file>
[15:44] <Nokaji> EriC^^: Okay , so far I can't paste anything to the drive
[15:44] <EriC^^> Nokaji: hmm, type ls -ld /media... again
[15:44] <qdii> EriC^^: thanks !
[15:45] <EriC^^> Nokaji: it should mount as your user
[15:45] <EriC^^> qdii: np
[15:45] <Nokaji> Eric; thought you might ask that but i didn't want to screw everything up by trying     drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 Aug 26 13:12 /media/tris/V 250GB BU
[15:45] <Nokaji> looks the same
[15:45] <EriC^^> Nokaji: ok, type sudo umount /dev/sdc1 again
[15:45] <Nokaji> okie
[15:46] <EriC^^> is the dir still there? type ls -ld again
[15:46] <Nokaji> EriC^^: Still visible in nuatilus but unmounted ... tryng next step ...
[15:47] <EriC^^> it should have disappeared
[15:47] <Nokaji> EriC^^:     drwxr-xr-x 26 root root 4096 Aug 24 03:55
[15:47] <EriC^^> ill brb 1 sec
[15:47] <Nokaji> np
[15:48] <TJ-> Nokaji: EriC^^: how about "sudo rmdir  /media/tris/V 250GB\ BU" then "udisksctl mount --block-device /dev/sdc1" -- manual control of the user auto-mounting?
[15:49] <ActionParsnip> Nokaji: what file system is the device using?
[15:49] <TJ-> Nokaji: EriC^^: typo (grrr @ spaces) "sudo rmdir  /media/tris/V\ 250GB\ BU"
[15:49] <Nokaji> Ext3
[15:50] <ActionParsnip> Nokaji: that makes things a LOT easier
[15:50] <ActionParsnip> :)
[15:50] <Nokaji> EriC^^:     rmdir: failed to remove ‘/media/tris/V 250GB BU’: No such file or directory
[15:50] <Nokaji> trying next line .....
[15:51] <Nokaji> Mounted /dev/sdc1 at /media/tris/V 250GB BU.
[15:51] <EriC^^> Nokaji: i'm back
[15:51] <EriC^^> unmount it
[15:51] <EriC^^> sudo umount /dev/sdc1
[15:51] <TJ-> Nokaji: the first command (rmdir) may have failed if the name of the directory wasn't exactly correct. With those spaces it is hard to tell on IRC where the name starts and ends
[15:52] <TJ-> EriC^^: we just mounted it with udisks
[15:52] <EriC^^> yes try the command with rmdir
[15:52] <EriC^^> yeah i know
[15:52] <EriC^^> i meant after the sudo umount command
[15:52] <TJ-> Nokaji Don't try rmdir right now!
[15:52] <U-bantu> what is the wubi.exe size?
[15:52] <EriC^^> U-bantu: forget wubi.exe
[15:52] <TJ-> Nokaji: what does "mount | grep sdc1" report?
[15:52] <EriC^^> it's an illusion
[15:52] <EriC^^> :P
[15:53] <Nokaji> hmh ...
[15:53] <U-bantu> :(
[15:53] <EriC^^> U-bantu: why don't you dual boot?
[15:53] <Nokaji> TJ-: Doesn't report anythring
[15:53] <EriC^^> you could install ubuntu to a usb if you want even
[15:53] <U-bantu> yeah but how do i do that?
[15:54] <Nokaji> shall I try the rm thng now
[15:54] <TJ-> Nokaji: OK, so you must have just done a umount ?
[15:54] <ActionParsnip> U-bantu: wubi is dead. It hasn't been deveoped for over 5 YEARS
[15:54] <U-bantu> EriC^^: can you explain?
[15:54] <Nokaji> TJ-: currenlty it is not mounted, yeah
[15:54] <auronandace> !usb | U-bantu
[15:55] <TJ-> Nokaji: OK. first check the *exact* name of the mountpoint directory, if it still exists: "ls -l /media/tris/"
[15:55] <EriC^^> U-bantu: get 2 usb's one for the live usb, and the other to install ubuntu to, and in the installer choose Something else at the bottom when it asks how to install and install it to the usb
[15:55] <TJ-> Nokaji: then if it does exist do "sudo rmdir /media/tris/<name-here>"
[15:56] <TJ-> Nokaji: then check the directory has gone: "ls -l /media/tris/"
[15:56] <EriC^^> Nokaji: use quotes, sudo rmdir "/media/tris/....."
[15:56] <TJ-> yeah that ^^^^
[15:56] <U-bantu> auronandace:ubottu: EriC^^:  Ok
[15:56] <TJ-> EriC^^: what is the actual problem here anyhow? :D
[15:56] <TJ-> EriC^^: It mounted correctly
[15:57] <EriC^^> TJ-: i think he used disks to mount a fresh partition and he can't create, checked the mountpoint in /media it's owned by root and persistent
[15:57] <Nokaji> TJ-: not showing up wit ls -l ... proly as unmountedf
[15:57] <EriC^^> so i guess disks created the mountpoint as owned by root or something
[15:58] <TJ-> EriC^^: for ext* that is expected behaviour. The mountpoint adopts the ownership of the root directory of the file-system, which after creation will be root:root
[15:58] <ActionParsnip> U-bantu: if you want to test the OS you can use virtualbox
[15:58] <EriC^^> TJ-: ah really?
[15:59] <EriC^^> i thought it would get the permissions of the mountpoint and the subdirs just persist
[15:59] <TJ-> EriC^^: Only permission-less file-systems such as FAT mount with user ownership since they don't have any ownership info of their own
[15:59] <Nokaji> TJ-: oops, did rmdir anyway without noticing the clause - it wasn't there to begin with
[15:59] <kasper> Hi, how do i run a .py script in my downloads folder?
[15:59] <TJ-> Nokaji: that's OK - can't rmdir what isn't there
[15:59] <kasper> When finished go to your Downloaded items and run the application using the following command:
[15:59] <kasper> python SecureW2_JoinNow.py
[15:59] <TJ-> Nokaji: I think you may have been chasing a red herring
[15:59] <EriC^^> TJ-: it doesn't make much sense though, if you have a dir owned already by a user, and you mount under it, the perms of that dir would change?
[16:00] <kasper> got these instructtions to get acces to my univeristy wifi network...but no idea how i can run it
[16:00] <EriC^^> and when you unmount the fs, the dir changes back?
[16:00] <Nokaji> TJ-: I read somewhere to avoid this perhaps i should have configured the drive whilst logged on under sudo, to retain ownership - maybe not
[16:02] <EriC^^> Nokaji: i guess you have to do sudo chown tris: "/media/tris/V 250GB BU"
[16:02] <Nokaji> EriC^^: External drives are treated differently, from what I've scoured on the net
[16:02] <Nokaji> trying it ..
[16:03] <EriC^^> did you mount it again?
[16:03] <EriC^^> mount it from nautilus first
[16:04] <Nokaji> Hey!
[16:04] <Nokaji> I see a change!
[16:04] <Nokaji> new folder/doc options!!
[16:04] <Nokaji> no idea what you id EriC^^ but we have major progress here!
[16:04] <Nokaji> did*
[16:05] <Nokaji> & TJ- ofc, thanks to both
[16:05] <Nokaji> lemme see if I can paste something
[16:05] <kasper> TJ-, can you help me with this? have to run a python script
[16:06] <EriC^^> Nokaji: great, np
[16:06] <Nokaji> EriC^^: -&- TJ-:   Amazing stuff! - it works just fine!
[16:06] <TomyWork> i'm backing up my old machine to a new one. both kubuntu trusty. there are probably things i manually installed. is there a way to efficiently list everything outside /home, /tmp and a couple of others that doesnt belong to a package and tar everything up?
[16:07] <Nokaji> EriC^^:  / TJ-: Hopefully it will remain fixed, perhaps you could explain what we did here so i can read up on it, i tried chown before with no joy
[16:07] <TomyWork> ideally, modified files would show up as well :)
[16:07] <magicoverflow> So i recently installed cryptsetup on a server which triggered a initramfs , which then gave a mdadm error YOUR SYSTEM IS NOW UNBOOTABLE!
[16:07] <Nokaji> That was real dedication to the cause chaps, i much appreciate your help on this one
[16:07] <ActionParsnip> TomyWork: how much space does everything outside of /home make up?
[16:08] <TomyWork> ActionParsnip less than i have available on the new machine :)
[16:08] <EriC^^> Nokaji: as TJ- said the fs has a root dir, like "/" and that dir is set to root as the owner
[16:08] <ActionParsnip> TomyWork: but do you have that amount of space on a USB drive etc?
[16:08] <TomyWork> no, but there's sshfs
[16:09] <TomyWork> or nfs if i want to hurt myself :)
[16:09] <EriC^^> Nokaji: so whenever you mount it, it'll be owned by root even if your user mounts it, it should always work now though as you chown'd the dir
[16:10] <ActionParsnip> TomyWork: you could tar everything except /home and /var/log    then if you need anything from the old system you can extract it from the archive
[16:10] <Nokaji> okay EriC^^: I'll save the log for this one and go through it again at my leisure - I see roughly what you are saying, though - many thanks indeed
[16:11] <EriC^^> Nokaji: no problem
[16:12] <TomyWork> ActionParsnip i know myself, i would probably have that around for a year or so :)
[16:15] <kasper> nvm
[16:15] <kasper> got it working lol
[16:15] <TJ-> kasper: how's it going with the PC now?
[16:17] <kasper> TJ-, it's good...can you send me the command again i had to execute yesterday? i PM'd it to myself but shutdown the mac
[16:17] <kasper> haven't done it cause got stuck updating win7 untill 3 am
[16:17] <U-bantu> i an virtual box and i get the error FATAL: NO BOOTABLE MEDIUM FOUND SYSTEM HALTED. what do i do?
[16:18] <TJ-> kasper: I can't remember what it was ... what did it do?!
[16:18] <kasper> it undid something we installed
[16:18] <U-bantu> *I am in
[16:18] <ActionParsnip> U-bantu: did you mount the ISO in virtualbox?
[16:18] <kasper> a module?
[16:18] <kasper> firmware?
[16:18] <kadiro> hello, cloning a partition to other one is a worst idea, lubuntu have big serious problem
[16:18] <U-bantu>  ActionParsnip: How do i od that?
[16:18] <ActionParsnip> U-bantu: you need to tell Virtualbox to use the IS you downloaded
[16:18] <kasper> not sure how crucial it is TJ-
[16:19] <U-bantu> ActionParsnip:Ok will see
[16:19] <ActionParsnip> U-bantu: wait...you just expected to run virtualbox and it magically know what you wanted to do? Think about it......
[16:19] <ActionParsnip> U-bantu: you just built a system with n o OS on it and powered it up
[16:19] <ActionParsnip> U-bantu: you need the CD to install the OS
[16:20] <cfhowlett> !vbox | U-bantu, this is the moment where reading the literature, which is abundant, would aid you greatly.
[16:20] <TJ-> kasper: oh, was it to remove the hp-wmi module? "sudo dkms remove hp-wmi/1.01 -all"
[16:20] <ActionParsnip> U-bantu: but virtualbox can work with the ISO file you downloaded
[16:20] <kasper> TJ-, yes thanks!
[16:21] <kasper> TJ-, Error!  Unknown option: -all
[16:21] <TJ-> kasper: drop te -all
[16:21] <U-bantu> ubottu: thank you
[16:21] <TJ-> kasper: I think I meant "-k all" actually :D
[16:21] <Midoshi27> yaaaay! Just dual booted Ubuntu on my windows laptop last night. Finally have a machine that can play games and get work done ;)
[16:22] <U-bantu> ActionParsnip: how do i take it to iso fle?
[16:22] <sushi__> Hello all,i need help for installing gerix on Linux mint. can someone tell me wich cahnnel i have to join for help? thx
[16:22] <daftykins> Midoshi27: psst, it already could ;) but good job.
[16:22] <ActionParsnip> U-bantu: in the setings of the VM, under storage
[16:22] <daftykins> !mint | sushi__
[16:22] <cfhowlett> !mint |sushi__,
[16:22] <kasper> TJ-, Error! There is no instance of hp-wmi 1.01
[16:22] <kasper> for kernel all (i686) located in the DKMS tree.
[16:22] <Midoshi27> daftykins: I was gonna wait to install Windows 10 then decided... fuck Windows 10
[16:22] <TJ-> kasper: hmmm, you must have uninstalled it already
[16:22] <kasper> weird
[16:22] <daftykins> Midoshi27: inappropriate language for here - also chat in #ubuntu-offtopic not here thanks. support only.
[16:22] <cfhowlett> Midoshi27, no profanity.  no need.  follow the guidelines.
[16:23] <kasper> OK...pretty sure that's what needed to be done
[16:23] <TJ-> kasper: "sudo dkms status"
[16:23] <Midoshi27> woops
[16:23] <kasper> TJ-, working on this thing today in class was an absolute dream
[16:23] <kasper> battery life of 4,5 hours in ubuntu...about 2,5 in win7
[16:23] <kadiro> after cloning lubuntu from old disk ( bad sectors "physical" ), not work when puting my password the loging returned back, i created a new user and another problem no partition from the two other disk can be mounted ( unknown partition ), i trying to install xfce DE on lubuntu to see if that correct something but same think, i trying to reinstall it and another big problem, lirc, automation and other program just gone, the home folder is always here but th
[16:23] <kadiro> e interested program gone
[16:23] <TJ-> kasper: you get more reward when you know the pain you had to go through, to get it there :)
[16:24] <daftykins> kasper: shows windows wasn't set up properly ;)
[16:25] <kasper> daftykins, imho it shows windows sucks...plus in windows there is 1.2GB of RAM in use the whole time
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> kadiro: a different DE wont fix disk access
[16:25] <kasper> even if i dont do anything at all
[16:25] <kasper> TJ-, hp-wmi, 1.01, 3.19.0-26-generic, i686: installed
[16:25] <daftykins> kasper: nah - disagree :) but ah well, off topic here
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> kadiro: check RAM using Memtest86 from Grub
[16:25] <kasper> did it
[16:25] <kasper> passed every test
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> kadiro: may want to test your disk using fsck from Ubuntu liveCD
[16:25] <TJ-> kasper: it lied to us! Try "sudo dkms remove hp-wmi/1.01 -k 3.19.0-26-generic"
[16:25] <kadiro> ActionParsnip: no ram is ok i'm now from another disto and all fine
[16:26] <kadiro> why all interested program just gone
[16:26] <Norbin> So I successfully installed Ubuntu into my secondary SSD, once it boots into ubuntu the login screen will not stop flickering rapidly, can't see anything on the screen really... 15.04, skylake i5, radeon 390
[16:26] <kasper> daftykins, you could be right...it was installed in the shop
[16:26] <daftykins> ah
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> kasper: i'd check the file system from liveCD
[16:26] <TJ-> kasper: if that fails add the arch Try "sudo dkms remove hp-wmi/1.01 -k 3.19.0-26-generic/i686"
[16:26] <kasper> daftykins, but i am not sure if i will f*ck things up if i do a clean win7 install with ubuntu on dual boot...to keep things on topic
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> Norbin: could try the intel driver installer
[16:27] <daftykins> kasper: even masked language is not acceptable here.
[16:27] <Norbin> intel driver? with amd card ?
[16:27] <Norbin> i am not connected to the onboard card
[16:27] <kadiro> ActionParsnip: how to get all my programs installed before to work again?
[16:27] <kadiro> it seem not installed
[16:27] <kasper> TJ-, that worked!
[16:27] <kasper> thanks
[16:27] <Norbin> maybe i should install gpu drivers from recovery? if that's even possible ?
[16:27] <ActionParsnip> kasper: if the file system is broken I wouldn't touch it
[16:28] <TJ-> kasper: when I need legal advice I'll seek you out :P
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> Norbin: Yes, hence why I said "could try the intel driver installer"
[16:28] <kasper> TJ-, funny thing is...on a 5GHZ network now and the wireless light is flashing orange and blue like crazy
[16:28] <TJ-> kasper: at least it is doing something :)
[16:28] <kasper> TJ-, absolutely...covering international law next semester
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> Norbin: OmgUbuntu has a nic guide
[16:28] <kadiro> I need to reinstall all of them??
[16:28] <kasper> TJ-, what's your country of residence?
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> kadiro: if the fsck fixes the disk then no...
[16:29] <TJ-> kasper: England
[16:29] <kasper> ah that's common law...covering that in october
[16:29] <kadiro> ActionParsnip: the system said that my programs are not installed
[16:29] <kasper> so all good as long as you stay out of jail till after the december exams TJ-  :D
[16:30] <kasper> after that i can help you out :D
[16:30] <kadiro> after booting from live lubuntu and reinstalling the system this problem happen
[16:30] <TJ-> kasper: I had a police helicopter following me and the Huskies around the farm this afternoon - I think someone may have escaped from the nearby prison :)
[16:30] <cfhowlett> !ot | TJ-,
[16:31] <TJ-> Normal service will resume shortly
[16:31] <kasper> TJ-, as long as you don't give them shelter and lie to the cops about it you should be fine
[16:32] <kadiro> I think linux system have no reinstall
[16:32] <mavensays> Guys should i switch to KDE from unity what are your pro's and con's and do you suggest any other DE (cinnamon maybe)?
[16:32] <kasper> so TJ- any experience with ubuntu and win7 dual boots? can i do a fresh iso reinstall of win7 without messing things up in ubuntu?
[16:32] <kadiro> i followed some web site and said it will do but not
[16:32] <kasper> or is this off topic? sorry
[16:32] <cfhowlett> mavensays, install them, test them, and decide for yourself.
[16:33] <kadiro> mavensays: Unity take more RAM than gnome3, gnome2, and finally kde, so kde is best for you
[16:34] <mavensays> @cfhowlett true, i am a big fan of gnome 2 who switched to unity with gnome 2 fallback & i have used KDE before was not very happy with it but off late friends are recommending KDE 5+
[16:34] <cfhowlett> mavensays,  unless your friends are using YOUR machine, you might find it more informative to just --- test them for yourself.  free and easy to do.
[16:34] <TJ-> kasper: on BIOS/Legacy installs, GRUB's bootstrap code in the MBR will be replaced by Windows, so the best thing to do is save it first with "sudo dd if=/dev/sda bs=512 count=1 of=/home/$USER/mbr.bin" then you can boot from a live ISO later, mount the file-system, and write that file back with "sudo dd if=/<montpoint>/home/<username>/mbr.bin of=/dev/sdX" where X is the drive letter
[16:35] <cfhowlett> !flavors | mavensays
[16:35] <kasper> TJ-, thanks!
[16:39] <RustyShackleford> so I'm having an issue with my digital ocean node
[16:39] <RustyShackleford> it has been quite a while since I updated
[16:40] <daftykins> RustyShackleford: they have great support then, since you pay them...
[16:40] <daftykins> i would speak with them first.
[16:41] <RustyShackleford> when I run "sudo aptitude update", I get some rather wierd output
[16:41] <RustyShackleford> yeah I guess I'll see what kind of support they have
[16:41] <daftykins> well "sudo apt update" would make more sense
[16:41] <daftykins> and you can't really say that without a pastebin :)
[16:41] <RustyShackleford> yeah I'm working on it haha
[16:41] <daftykins> but yes, consult the people you pay before you ask volunteers for their time.
[16:41] <RustyShackleford> I prefer aptitude, but I could try apt-get and see if that makes a difference
[16:42] <RustyShackleford>  Failed to fetch http://mirrors.digitalocean.com/ubuntu/dists/utopic-backports/universe/source/Sources: 404  Not Fo
[16:42] <RustyShackleford> und [IP: 192.241.164.26 80]
[16:42] <daftykins> utopic, good lord
[16:42] <daftykins> yeah your release is dead.
[16:42] <daftykins> !utopic
[16:42] <daftykins> you shouldn't be using that :)
[16:42] <RustyShackleford> so... is that the reason for a 404 error?
[16:43] <daftykins> they've likely taken down those sections since utopic is dead, yes
[16:43] <daftykins> which would likely be in their help...
[16:43] <RustyShackleford> and can I upgrade to a newer version of ubuntu without having my current install up to date?
[16:44] <daftykins> not ideal
[16:44] <daftykins> backup + create a new droplet then migrate the data
[16:44] <daftykins> easiest way
[16:44] <RustyShackleford> i'd really rather not spin up a new instance... but I suppose you're right
[16:45] <RustyShackleford> better start backing up my config files
[16:45] <p0pr0ck5> shouldnt have ignored LTS then ;)
[16:45] <daftykins> ^
[16:45] <daftykins> RustyShackleford: you should be on 14.04
[16:45] <RustyShackleford> should I install 14.04 instead of 15.04?
[16:46] <daftykins> i just said
[16:46] <RustyShackleford> the plan was to keep it up to date haha. Its funny how that didn't happen
[16:46] <teward> RustyShackleford: 14.04 is the LTS.  I would advise NOT upgrading until the next LTS comes out
[16:59] <Matt_teni> anyone here manage to pull 100 hour work week?
[16:59] <cfhowlett> Matt_teni, this is ubuntu support.  please stay on topic
[17:06] <championofcyrodi> hello.  Question.  I have a clone of the amd64 archive.ubuntu.com, but of course my client needs some i386 packages.  I'm cloning w/ a tool called cobbler, which uses debmirror under the hood..
[17:06] <championofcyrodi> the question i have is,
[17:06] <championofcyrodi> should i replicate the i386 repo in the *same* path as my current amd64 repo url?
[17:07] <championofcyrodi> or can i specify a seperate repo for i386 in /etc/apt/sources.list
[17:07] <TJ-> championofcyrodi: you can do either
[17:07] <championofcyrodi> TJ- which would you do?
[17:07] <championofcyrodi> i'm okay w/ dumping it all in 1
[17:08] <championofcyrodi> since its all 'trusty'
[17:08] <TJ-> championofcyrodi: if you want to limit a deb: entry to a list of architectures simply use the form  "deb [arch=i386,amd64] http..."
[17:08] <championofcyrodi> i think i might like the modular approach to having my 32 bit repo separate
[17:08] <TJ-> championofcyrodi: you could have 2 deb: lines, one for amd64 and the other for i386, if you wished
[17:08] <championofcyrodi> gotcha. that is what i was looking for...
[17:09] <championofcyrodi> the deb [arch] optional flag
[17:09] <drethy> Any suggestions for an alarm clock for ubuntu?
[17:09] <championofcyrodi> maybe i should have done 'man sources.list' or something
[17:09] <Hamiltonian__> Hi, how can I kill all of the processes that show up after the following command: ps aux | grep libreoffice
[17:09] <daftykins> killall libreoffice ?
[17:10] <championofcyrodi> TJ- thanks again
[17:10] <Hamiltonian__> daftykins: did not know that there was a killall command, looking it up
[17:12] <Hamiltonian__> daftykins: I get: libreoffice: no process found
[17:12] <Hamiltonian__> daftykins: but if I run ps aux | grep libreoffice, it shows 6 processes
[17:12] <EriC^^> Hamiltonian__: try pkill libreoffice
[17:12] <daftykins> it has to match the actual binaries, so if it's the beginning or end you might add a *
[17:15] <Hamiltonian__> Eric^^ that did not run into an error, but did not kill the processes
[17:15] <Hamiltonian__> When I run ps aux | grep libreoffice, this is what I see: http://i.imgur.com/ZJFhPgS.png
[17:15] <TomyWork> Hamiltonian__ be careful with killall
[17:15] <TomyWork> on solaris it really kills all
[17:16] <EriC^^> Hamiltonian__: you could try pkill /usr/lib/libreoffice
[17:16] <TomyWork> and pkill is usually the better choice anyway
[17:16] <Hamiltonian__> TomyWork, haha looks like I got lucky, everything's still running ;)
[17:16] <beaky> hello
[17:16] <beaky> how do i do middle-click paste in ubuntu
[17:16] <beaky> on a device with a trackpad
[17:16] <beaky> but no mouse
[17:16] <TomyWork> Hamiltonian__ lucky... or not on a solaris
[17:16] <EriC^^> beaky: shift+insert
[17:17] <TomyWork> EriC^^ that's not the same
[17:17] <beaky> EriC^^ wow thanks
[17:17] <Ultra4> Hi all
[17:17] <Hamiltonian__> EriC^^, I would like general method that can take the output of ps aux | grep XXX and kill all of those processes, is it possible?
[17:17] <Kasper-irssi> wow this is seriously old skool
[17:17] <TomyWork> beaky look up "3 button emulation" or something on google
[17:17] <beaky> wow after 4 years of using ubuntu i just learned how to paste
[17:17] <beaky> without middle clck
[17:17] <TomyWork> ctrl-v in most applications
[17:17] <Ultra4> Have been 10.04.3 LTS support ended? Can't undestand this at full https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[17:18] <EriC^^> Hamiltonian__: you could kill them from htop i think
[17:18] <TomyWork> terminals require shift-ins (or ctrl-shift-v on some terminals)
[17:18] <cfhowlett> Ultra4, yes it's done
[17:18] <Ultra4> cfhowlett: thanks
[17:18] <teward> Ultra4: all 10.04 versions are EOl now
[17:18] <TJ-> If the processes are stuck, you'll need kill -KILL not the default kill -TERM
[17:18] <teward> Ultra4: if the version you look at is under the "End of life" category, it's got no more support
[17:18] <Ultra4> teward: ty
[17:19] <TomyWork> you say "kill=$(pgrep libreoffice)" and then you can say "kill -KILL $kill"
[17:19] <beaky> heh overkill
[17:20] <daftykins> Hamiltonian__: ah so the actual program is oosplash.
[17:20] <daftykins> Hamiltonian__: killall oosplash
[17:20] <EriC^^> TomyWork: yes it is, shift+insert is like pressing the middle mouse to paste, no?
[17:20] <TomyWork> nope
[17:20] <EriC^^> what do you mean nope?
[17:21] <EriC^^> highlight something, press shift+insert, eh voila
[17:21] <TomyWork> middle mouse pastes the primary selection, shift+ins pastes the clipboard
[17:21] <EriC^^> no, shift+ctrl+v pastes the clipboard, shift+insert pastes the selection, as does middle mouse button
[17:21] <EriC^^> try it ;)
[17:22] <Hamiltonian__> daftykins, killing oosplash did it, thanks man!
[17:22] <TomyWork> cant
[17:22] <daftykins> np
[17:22] <TomyWork> i told Konsole to copy to both :D
[17:23] <TomyWork> EriC^^ the only application i have that does that is xterm
[17:23] <TomyWork> everything else behaves like i said
[17:24] <EriC^^> you've modded it that way i guess
[17:24] <TomyWork> nope
[17:24] <TomyWork> KDE behaviour i guess
[17:24] <TomyWork> and i'm glad it's that way
[17:24] <TomyWork> i use ctrl-v and shift-ins interchangably
[17:24] <TomyWork> whatever is closest
[17:25] <championofcyrodi> in vi it's just p/P
[17:25] <championofcyrodi> :)
[17:25] <TomyWork> that's a 3rd clipboard :)
[17:26] <championofcyrodi> the thing i like about vi, is that it tells you to basically go home when your brain is tired, by frustrating the hell out of you.
[17:27] <championofcyrodi> unless you work at home, then you go make a sandwich i guess
[17:32] <TomyWork> i use mcedit whenever i'm forced to use a console. kate otherwise
[17:33] <TomyWork> vi... only with git
[17:33] <Pici> What /70
[17:33] <neyder_> ls
[17:33] <neyder_> hi there
[17:33] <AndriusBartulis> I have a question: one of my monitors is a really low end iiyama monitor and looks horrible when not callibrated. On windows I used to use the built in calibration tool which used to work (no hardware needed just "by eye" calibration). However I can't seem to figure out how to do this on a gnu system. Any ideas? I tried installing dipscalGUI but it required calibration hardware which I do not have. Any thoughts?
[17:34] <TomyWork> 404 Not Found
[17:34] <TomyWork> AndriusBartulis a gnu system is basically just the console, i think you mean X, right? :)
[17:35] <TomyWork> your desktop environment probably has some kind of tool to help you
[17:35] <TomyWork> which one do you use? gnome? kde? xfce?
[17:36] <AndriusBartulis> TomyWork, depends how you look at it, but yeah. Unity has Device Color Profiles tool but it only allows me to load profiles, as the calibrate button is grayed out (because I guess it needs hardware again, but I want software only calibration)
[17:36] <neyder_> how can I use geometry on a program that doesnt support '-geometry HxW+v+h' parameter?
[17:36] <shambat> noticed my server went into read only mode, so I rebooted, and now fsck finds errors. However, its asking me to "Press F to attempt to fix the errors", this does nothing (in fact none of the options do anything). I tried booting into recovery mode, but there it just hangs after a bunch of system messages. How can I run fsck properly?
[17:37] <EriC^^> !info devilspie | neyder_ or maybe ccsm
[17:37] <AndriusBartulis> TomyWork, for now Unity. But that should not matter, should it?
[17:38] <daniel72-72> Hi guys. Is there anyway to reset my router password. Not the wi-fi, the internal password so I can change its configurations
[17:39] <daftykins> daniel72-72: that is not even vaguely an ubuntu issue, try ##networking
[17:39] <mcphail> AndriusBartulis: just buy a calibrator. You get get a second-hand spyder2 for a couple of pounds/dollars from ebay as there are no drivers for modern Windows. Works a treat
[17:39] <daniel72-72> I'm asking because I know how to on windows nor on ubuntu
[17:40] <daftykins> daniel72-72: that doesn't make any sense. routers are accessed via web admins - that is platform agnostic
[17:40] <neyder_> EriC^^, reading ty
[17:40] <daftykins> (or telnet which also is)
[17:43] <Pici> daniel72-72: refer to your router's documentation
[17:44] <AndriusBartulis> mcphail, ok I guess that's the only option then. Wanted something quick for the next week while the calibrator arrives (color balance is horrible)
[17:44] <mcphail> AndriusBartulis: spyder + dispcalgui is what I use
[17:44] <AndriusBartulis> Which spider?
[17:44] <AndriusBartulis> 1 or 2? or 3
[17:44] <AndriusBartulis> ?
[17:44] <mcphail> AndriusBartulis: 2, iirc
[17:44] <AndriusBartulis> mcphail, ok thanks
[17:45] <mcphail> AndriusBartulis: as far as I know, the others work as well
[17:45] <mcphail> AndriusBartulis: The spyder 2 needs the windows install disk so you can extract the firmware, but that process is simple
[17:47] <AndriusBartulis> Does anyone know why ubuntu might have this weird password thing when on a fresh install the password will either work for login OR for sudo authentication, but not both, for example, when I just installed it, I set a password to something, then it didn't work with sudo or software centre, then I changed it with pkexec passwd and then it started working for sudo tasks but stopped working for login tasks. Any
[17:47] <AndriusBartulis> thoughts?
[17:48] <daftykins> AndriusBartulis: "set a password to something" = ?
[17:49] <daftykins> i think you're performing non-standard reconfigurations and trashing the install.
[17:50] <AndriusBartulis> daftykins, no, I literally installed ubuntu, and chose a password in the install wizard. Then, without doing anything else at all, it started doing that
[17:50] <AndriusBartulis> Its a completely fresh install. Tried reinstalling it twice.
[17:50] <AndriusBartulis> Something to do with my disk image maybe? some hardware?
[17:50] <AndriusBartulis> Maybe ubuntu updates?
[17:50] <AndriusBartulis> Its weird
[17:51] <daftykins> right but what's this "set a password to something" = ?
[17:51] <daftykins> oh as in that was the installer step, ok
[17:51] <daftykins> very obscure language :P
[17:52] <daftykins> try installing without updates maybe
[17:52] <AndriusBartulis> hmm ok
[17:52] <AndriusBartulis> I did have the Install updates automatically checked, so maybe that messed something up.
[17:52] <AndriusBartulis> Thanks
[17:53] <daftykins> is this 15.04 ?
[17:53] <AndriusBartulis> yes
[17:53] <AndriusBartulis> Ok I know what you gonna say... use LTS :D
[17:53] <daftykins> nope just curious where the quirk lies
[17:53] <daftykins> maybe you have newer hardware so LTS isn't quite so appropriate, so i wouldn't just say that
[17:54] <AndriusBartulis> hmm... maybe it uses one key map before loggin in and another one after?
[17:54] <AndriusBartulis> daftykins, its a lenovo thinkpad t410 so not that new
[17:55] <daftykins> that's possible depending on what region you're in
[17:56] <oaulakh> how to install libusbx
[17:56] <lotuspsychje> oaulakh: you still not fix your heimdall issue?
[17:57] <AndriusBartulis> Hmm, just checked, both use same key mapping
[17:57] <AndriusBartulis> Weird.
[17:57] <ioria> AndriusBartulis, are you using Mate   Gnome3  ?
[17:57] <oaulakh> nope
[17:57] <AndriusBartulis> ioria, Just default Unity fresh install
[17:57] <lotuspsychje> oaulakh: did you try the newest version?
[17:58] <AndriusBartulis> I installed it on 3 pcs today and only this one has the problem, maybe some new update that just came out a few h ago or something...
[17:58] <oaulakh> yup it says somethin libdev0 required but those are confusing when i apt-get install libusb0
[17:58] <lotuspsychje> oaulakh: i mean the heimdall 4.1 version
[17:59] <oaulakh> yup there is no heimdall 4.1
[17:59] <ioria> AndriusBartulis, check /var/log/auth.log
[18:06] <AndriusBartulis> ioria, ok I will just try a different version of ubuntu or maybe mint and see what happens then
[18:12] <Darael> ...why are XATTR_SIZE_MAX and XATTR_LIST_MAX defined at the VFS layer?!  It's not like they don't vary by filesystem anyway...
[18:15] <Voyage> Hi
[18:15] <Darael> !hi | Voyage
[18:15] <Darael> ...huh.
[18:15] <Darael> Could've sworn... oh well
[18:15] <daftykins> yeah don't.
[18:16] <Darael> Fair enough.  It's been... a while.
[18:16] <Voyage> I changed my laptop and bough a PC, now the hardware is different but my same HDD having kubuntu is working fine. Today I noticed that video / grphics in some applications like forefox and xchat is causing problems. Do I need to change things? install some software or do anything?
[18:16] <yabbes> ive got one issue, im running the latest ubuntu and i cannot shut down my system by clicking the shut down button.. it just doesnt work.. i always have to type sudo init 0 is this a known issue ?
[18:17] <daftykins> Voyage: what hardware and what driver currently in use?
[18:17] <Voyage> daftykins,  dont know about drivers but hardware is G3258 processor and z97 board
[18:17] <Voyage> daftykins,  old one was dell d630 laptop.
[18:18] <Voyage> G3250
[18:18] <daftykins> so you're intel the intel on-die graphics?
[18:18] <lotuspsychje> yabbes: sudo halt works?
[18:18] <daftykins> wow my brain and keyboard are not connected
[18:18] <Voyage> daftykins,  gues so. dont knwo how to confirm
[18:18] <yabbes> can i safely try this now lotuspsychje ?:P
[18:18] <daftykins> Voyage: "lspci | pastebinit"
[18:18] <lotuspsychje> yabbes: it will shutdown right away
[18:18] <yabbes> it should shut down my system right
[18:18] <daftykins> Voyage: also "pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[18:18] <yabbes> let me try it
[18:19] <yabbes> and thank you
[18:19] <Voyage> http://pastebin.ca/index.php
[18:20] <daftykins> Voyage: that's an index link ;)
[18:20] <lotuspsychje> lol
[18:20] <Voyage> great
[18:20] <Voyage> http://pastebin.ca/3130222
[18:21] <yabbes> i think sudo halt worked but it didnt completely shut down my pc it is still hibernating or something but i cant wake it up :s
[18:21] <lotuspsychje> yabbes: try sudo shutdown -now or -p
[18:21] <yabbes> the power light is stil on
[18:21] <Voyage> daftykins,  new one http://pastebin.ca/3130225
[18:21] <daftykins> Voyage: yep looks like an intel only, so keeping up to date is the only thing you can really do.
[18:21] <Riley> hey guys i need help updating my intel hd drivers on ubuntu 15.04
[18:21] <yabbes> lotuspsychje: i dont think i can open a terminal right now
[18:21] <Voyage> daftykins,  ya but do I need to install any software?
[18:21] <ioria> yabbes, using Cairo ?
[18:21] <yabbes> nope
[18:21] <yabbes> my ubuntu is all stock
[18:21] <Riley> im not sure witch ppa to use sense the intel driver installer dosnt work anymore
[18:22] <yabbes> thats why im a bit confused
[18:22] <yabbes> never had this issue or anything like that
[18:22] <daftykins> Voyage: nope and don't follow any guides that speak of installing intel drivers, it's all a lie and will ruin your system
[18:22] <yabbes> cant shut down my pc by using the menu item
[18:22] <lotuspsychje> yabbes: maybe try a tail -f /var/log/syslog and shutdown after
[18:22] <lotuspsychje> yabbes: see what the logs spit out as error
[18:22] <yabbes> thanks will try that
[18:22] <Voyage> daftykins,  ok.
[18:22] <daftykins> Riley: nope you don't, it doesn't work that way. never use the installer either
[18:22] <yabbes> when my pc is functional again
[18:23] <Voyage> daftykins,  how to dist upgrade? and why do I still get graphic errors?
[18:23] <lotuspsychje> yabbes: wich ubuntu version was this
[18:23] <Riley> how are you supposed to update it then
[18:23] <yabbes> 15.04 ? the latest
[18:23] <Riley> my driver dosnt show all my reslolutions
[18:23] <yabbes> lotuspsychje:
[18:23] <yabbes> fresh install
[18:23] <lotuspsychje> yabbes: did you have shutdown issues on 14.04?
[18:23] <daftykins> Riley: how is your display connected?
[18:23] <yabbes> nope
[18:23] <yabbes> never, lotuspsychje
[18:24] <Riley> just my laptop
[18:24] <daftykins> Voyage: "sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade"
[18:24] <Riley> but it dosnt show 720p to run games
[18:24] <Voyage> daftykins,  full-upgrade is not dist upgrade
[18:24] <lotuspsychje> yabbes: investigate your logs, might show something usefull
[18:24] <Riley> i found this ppa https://launchpad.net/~oibaf/+archive/ubuntu/graphics-drivers
[18:25] <Riley> but not sure witch packages i need
[18:25] <daftykins> Voyage: don't ask how to do it if you feel you know better then :)
[18:25] <Voyage> I dont know.
[18:25] <yabbes> thanks lotuspsychje
[18:25] <Voyage> I just recall memories of that what I said
[18:25] <daftykins> Voyage: sudo apt update && sudo apt dist-upgrade - also a command
[18:25] <yabbes> tail -f /var/log/syslog i will try this
[18:25] <EriC^^> Voyage: full-upgrade is like dist-upgrade, just using apt instead of apt-get
[18:26] <SchrodingersScat> why would you use apt instead of apt-get?
[18:26] <daftykins> progress bar as default
[18:26] <daftykins> use what you want
[18:28] <TomyWork> uhm wtf is the "apt" tool? i thought that was just the lib in the background
[18:28] <ki7rw> i was trying to use usb 3.0 with windows guests but both XP and Win10 complains about missing drivers - i'm assuming that my linux host isn't loading drivers for usb 3.0?? - Ubuntu 14.04 64 bit host - yes, my laptop has usb 3.0 ports
[18:29] <ki7rw> virtualbox 5.x
[18:29] <daftykins> i didn't think vbox did USB 3 passthrough yet.
[18:29] <daftykins> what do their channel peeps say?
[18:29] <ki7rw> i haven't asked there since it's usually lack of drivers on the host
[18:29] <yabbes> lotuspsychje: sudo shutdown -h now results in succesful shut down right from the terminal
[18:30] <lotuspsychje> yabbes: ok try the GUI shutdown on tail -f now
[18:30] <lotuspsychje> yabbes: might give you errors that block the normal shutdown?
[18:30] <yabbes> im sorry what does tail -f do exactly ?
[18:30] <yabbes> tail -f /var/log/syslog i type this ?
[18:30] <hddquest> Worth it to spend 18$ on 1TB more for my HDD (Seagate Barracuda)?
[18:30] <lotuspsychje> yabbes: yes
[18:30] <yabbes> and then i try the gui shutdown
[18:30] <yabbes> thanks
[18:30] <lotuspsychje> yabbes: will show realtime syslog errors
[18:31] <yabbes> ah nice
[18:31] <daftykins> ki7rw: well it would make sense to just quickly ask if it's even supported
[18:31] <hddquest> I ask cause I'm indecisive whether It'll be worth it in the future
[18:32] <dry_cycle> hey yall
[18:32] <yabbes> let me paste you this
[18:32] <lotuspsychje> !paste | yabbes
[18:32] <yabbes_> lotuspsychje, http://paste.ubuntu.com/12201192/
[18:33] <yabbes> and ty
[18:33] <yabbes> seems like this systemd process doesnt quite do its job? :s
[18:34] <yabbes> other than that ive got other network stuff in my syslog
[18:35] <lotuspsychje> yabbes: sorry havent used systemd before, you might wanna ask in channel with that paste
[18:35] <yabbes> and on a second click on the gui shutdown ive got no further notice in my syslog about this process at all
[18:35] <_Roc> can anyone help with the name of a  linux distro just cli no desktop?
[18:35] <yabbes> in what channel, lotuspsychje ?
[18:35] <ioria> yabbes, you should have an upstart option in grub ...
[18:35] <yabbes> ioria: what would that do?
[18:35] <yabbes> upstart
[18:36] <hddquest> Buying a Seagate Barracuda but can't decide on 1TB or 2TB (18$ difference), whats you guys thought about it? worth?
[18:36] <lotuspsychje> yabbes: here :p
[18:36] <lotuspsychje> hddquest: ask in ##hardware
[18:36] <ioria> yabbes, if the problem is systemd ...
[18:36] <hddquest> ok will do, ty
[18:36] <yabbes> well i dont know, i dont know about upstart never heard about it
[18:36] <Worren> I have som problems whit booting to Windows after i removed Ubuntu, can anyone help me plz?
[18:37] <ioria> yabbes, upstart is the precedent model ...
[18:37] <yabbes_> my systemd paste, somehow my ubuntu won't shut down, is this a systemd problem? http://paste.ubuntu.com/12201192/
[18:37] <yabbes_> of systemd, ioria ?
[18:37] <ioria> yabbes, yep
[18:37] <yabbes_> thank you
[18:37] <yabbes_> but what should i do or try :s
[18:38] <yabbes_> i mean i can shut down my pc now by running shutdown -h now from console at least
[18:38] <ioria> yabbes, if ubu is the only os , press shift
[18:38] <yabbes_> when booting?
[18:38] <Bashing-om> !minimal | _Roc
[18:38] <ioria> yabbes, yes
[18:38] <ioria> yabbes, explore the options
[18:38] <yabbes_> the boot options
[18:38] <ioria> yabbes, yep
[18:39] <yabbes_> ive got a dual boot sadly at the moment on this system
[18:39] <yabbes_> but i will try
[18:39] <yabbes_> nonetheless
[18:39] <yabbes_> thanks ioria
[18:39] <ioria> yabbes,  so you see grub screen  ...
[18:39] <yabbes> yes
[18:39] <ioria> yabbes,  there
[18:39] <yabbes> yep
[18:40] <yabbes> still here just rebooting ;)
[18:40] <_Roc> thank you
[18:40] <daftykins> Worren: not really - just use windows boot media to restore the bootloader. ##windows for more
[18:41] <hddquest> @lotuspsychje ##hardware requires registration, i'd just want a quick summary
[18:41] <yabbes> ioria: i see the upstart option! so you suggest i try booting this and see if the problem persists?
[18:41] <ioria> yabbes,  yes...
[18:41] <lotuspsychje> hddquest: your in ubuntu support here mate
[18:42] <Worren> daftykins: I made a windows 10 boot usb, but everytime i try to boot and repair windows boot it says it can't.
[18:42] <hddquest> yeah I know.. any other # where I can ask? maybe one without a reg function
[18:42] <daftykins> Worren: sorry, not on topic for this channel.
[18:42] <yabbes> seems like it is not a systemd related issue, i cant gui shutdown my system on upstart either
[18:42] <yabbes> ioria: lotuspsychje
[18:43] <musca> hi, is ntfsundelete still part of the ubuntu live-dvd?  How can i check this before downloading?
[18:43] <ioria> yabbes,  sudo shutdown -P 1
[18:43] <Worren> Daftykins: Ok, thanks tho. Do you know if i can boot up windows from grub?
[18:43] <daftykins> Worren: i can't help you with that
[18:43] <EriC^^> musca: releases.ubuntu.com > check the .manifest
[18:44] <yabbes> working ioria
[18:44] <musca> will do, thx
[18:44] <yabbes> different from sudo shutdown -h now ?
[18:44] <EriC^^> musca: np
[18:44] <ioria> yabbes,  yes ... it says to poweroff after shutdown
[18:45] <yabbes> ah
[18:45] <ioria> yabbes,  you can try with acpi=force
[18:45] <yabbes> what command?
[18:46] <yabbes> i would just like my gui item to work :/
[18:46] <yabbes> i can shut down now by using the terminal but its a weird problem
[18:46] <yabbes> maybe i should revert to ubuntu 14.04 :(
[18:47] <EriC^^> yabbes: try this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Fixing_reboot.2Fshutdown_freezes
[18:47] <ioria> yabbes,  edit the kernel line with that , after quite splash
[18:47] <yabbes> wow thank you EriC^^
[18:48] <ioria> yabbes,  yes,,, something like that
[18:48] <EriC^^> yabbes: try acpi=force too as ioria said
[18:48] <yabbes> im sorry for being a noob but where do i add that line i havent yet read the link
[18:48] <fwolf> oh, the grub issue .. wasnt that fixed in the latest update?
[18:48] <ioria> yabbes,  http://askubuntu.com/questions/201107/my-computer-wont-shutdown
[18:48] <yabbes> thank you
[18:49] <lickalott> gents, does anyone know how to limit the usable strike space on an Elantech touchpad?  here's what I've played with so far and it is still overly sensitive (i.e. jumpes around when my palm touches the top left or top right corners of the pad)   xinput --watch-props "ETPS/2 Elantech Touchpad"
[18:49] <lickalott> xinput --set-prop "ETPS/2 Elantech Touchpad" "Synaptics Finger" 5 16 216
[18:49] <lickalott> xinput --set-prop "ETPS/2 Elantech Touchpad" "Synaptics Noise Cancellation" 20 20   synclient -l PalmDetect=1
[18:50] <yabbes_> thank you for this ioria and everyone
[18:50] <yabbes_> for the help
[18:51] <ioria> yabbes,  np, just wanted your issue fixed, if we can
[18:51] <ioria> *want
[18:53] <yabbes_> do you think i can add both reboot=bios and acpi=force to the line ?
[18:53] <yabbes_> then it should work when i reboot? (i updated my grub)
[18:53] <ioria> yabbes,  mmm... no
[18:53] <yabbes_> oh sorry
[18:53] <yabbes_> so i should try one first
[18:53] <yabbes_> then the other
[18:53] <ioria> yabbes, better
[18:53] <yabbes_> thx
[18:56] <sokoll> I am getting a permission denied message when trying to cp a file from my home directory, to a directory owned by www-data and a group that I am a member of. any ideas?
[18:59] <arooni-mobile> is hardware acceleration possible in google-chrome?  i have lenovo t420 with intel graphics 3000.  ubuntu 14.04 lts.
[19:00] <daftykins> sokoll: did you close and re-open since joining the group?
[19:00] <sokoll> daftykins: close and reopen what?
[19:00] <SCHAAP137> arooni-mobile, http://www.webupd8.org/2014/01/enable-hardware-acceleration-in-chrome.html
[19:00] <daftykins> the same terminal you're logged into trying to perform that copy
[19:00] <daftykins> often you must log out and back in before group changes apply
[19:00] <sokoll> daftykins: ah, no, but I'm sudo'd as the user that's having the issue
[19:00] <arooni-mobile> SCHAAP137, followed that and its still showing gpu isnt being used
[19:00] <sokoll> daftykins: that's not the issue
[19:00] <daftykins> sudo? o0
[19:01] <daftykins> the permissions angle isn't relevant if you're doing that
[19:01] <sokoll> daftykins: I am an admin, I have a user who is unable to copy a file from his home directory, to a team directory.
[19:01] <daftykins> sokoll: a bit of output in a pastebin would be handy
[19:01] <beaky> how do people deploy ubuntu in production
[19:01] <fwolf> arooni-mobile: works on my t520 .. so there's no reason why it shouldnt work on your t420 ;)
[19:01] <sokoll> daftykins: cp: cannot create regular file {filename}: permission denied
[19:01] <Saulo> (away) not here.
[19:01] <fwolf> maybe try SRWare Iron as an alternative, though
[19:02] <daftykins> sokoll: that's not helpful, "ls -al" of the destination, groups of the user etc etc. would be
[19:02] <arooni-mobile> fwolf, what am i doing wrong?
[19:02] <sokoll> daftykins: k, apologies, one sec
[19:03] <fwolf> arooni-mobile: what ubuntu install with what version of chrome?
[19:03] <sokoll> daftykins: destination permissions: drwxr-xr-x   3 www-data {groupname} 4.0K Aug  3 20:04 public_html
[19:03] <arooni-mobile> fwolf, Google Chrome 44.0.2403.157 ; ubuntu 14.04 LTS 64 bit
[19:03] <sokoll> user is in {groupname}
[19:04] <daftykins> sokoll: i mentioned a pastebin such as http://paste.ubuntu.com to avoid unreadability in channel
[19:04] <daftykins> sokoll: ah can already see your group doesn't have write perms then.
[19:04] <SCHAAP137> arooni-mobile, you could try adding this to the Chrome startup command: --disable-gpu-sandbox
[19:04] <SCHAAP137> it might forcibly enable some of the missing GPU acceleration settings
[19:05] <sokoll> daftykins: so it needs drwxrwxr-x?
[19:05] <SCHAAP137> but, on the other hand, Chrome might become unstable because of it
[19:05] <daftykins> sokoll: sudo chmod -R g+w /path/to/public_html (assuming you're ok with the whole path recursively being set)
[19:05] <sokoll> daftykins: that's fine :)
[19:05] <arooni-mobile> SCHAAP137, Software only. Hardware acceleration disabled
[19:06] <SCHAAP137> hmm, unfortunate
[19:06] <yabbes> sorry to report back, guys.. im the one with the reboot grub issue (no shutdown via gui) ive tried adding all three acpi=force then reboot=bios and then reboot=pci in my /etc/default/grub but no positive result :/
[19:07] <EriC^^> yabbes: did you update-grub after adding them?
[19:07] <muelli> yabbes: hm. you need to regenerate your grub, I guess.
[19:07] <yabbes> sometimes my syslog doesnt even give me any info when i try rebooting
[19:07] <yabbes> i did update-grub after each line edit
[19:07] <yabbes> then reboot . try. and another time
[19:07] <ioria> yabbes, in this line GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT ?
[19:07] <GTFr0> general question about network interfaces:  in systems with multiple NICs, how does ubuntu determine which NIC is eth0?
[19:08] <yabbes> yes
[19:08] <GTFr0> (this maybe more of a kernel question than specific to Ubuntu)
[19:08] <SCHAAP137> GTFr0, just a guess, but maybe the MAC address?
[19:08] <sokoll> daftykins: that fixed it! thanks so much
[19:08] <daftykins> sokoll: np :)
[19:08] <GTFr0> I have a batch of HP Proliant DL380 Gen9 servers, and I am PXE booting Ubuntu core.  Every boot, it switches between the onboard GbE and the onboard 10GbE NICs
[19:09] <daftykins> GTFr0: yeah #linux might be better. it's probably down to PCI bus order
[19:09] <yabbes> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash reboot=bios
[19:10] <shdefhsdfh> >install gentoo
[19:11] <GTFr0> daftykins: thanks, I'll give that a try
[19:11] <fwolf> arooni-mobile: already dug into the thinkwikis? the German suggests there might be a throttling issue with later BIOS versions, which also decreases the "power of the integrated GPU"
[19:12] <fwolf> my t520 is from an early batch, so it might still be using an older BIOS version
[19:13] <ioria> yabbes, try in    GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX "acpi=force"
[19:13] <yabbes> i did, but i will again :P
[19:13] <arooni-mobile> fwolf, interesting ; i did upgrade my bios to latest version as i recently installed a new ssd and wanted it to work out of the box.  what a gip a decrease in gpu power for upgrading the bios :\
[19:13] <yabbes> i will trail -f my syslog again but sometimes really there is no reaction at all when i click on shutdown
[19:13] <ioria> yabbes, try in    GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX " not in GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT
[19:13] <yabbes> thanks ioria
[19:14] <ZaktheGhost> hi
[19:14] <yabbes> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash acpi=force"
[19:14] <yabbes> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="acpi=force"
[19:14] <yabbes> like this ?
[19:14] <ioria> yabbes, no
[19:14] <yabbes> ^^
[19:14] <shdefhsdfh> >install gentoo
[19:14] <ioria> yabbes, remove the first
[19:15] <yabbes> thanks
[19:15] <shdefhsdfh> >install gentoo
[19:15] <yabbes> let me reboot and see =)
[19:15] <ioria> yabbes, remove the first  acpi=force, i mean not quite spalsh
[19:15] <yabbes> yes
[19:15] <DJones> shdefhsdfh: As this is Ubuntu support, no, please stop spamming
[19:15] <yabbes> i did that
[19:15] <shdefhsdfh> >install gentoo
[19:17] <Gallomimia>  is there a way to get some details about the ram chips installed in my system, thru CLI or any?
[19:17] <GTFr0> Gallomimia: lshw
[19:18] <OerHeks> dmidecode
[19:18] <yabbes> still no success ^^ I'm going to try the others reboot=bios in the non default line of grub
[19:18] <EriC^^> yabbes: same thing
[19:19] <EriC^^> yabbes: are you using unity?
[19:19] <yabbes> youve got the same problem?
[19:19] <yabbes> yes, EriC^^
[19:19] <yabbes> wb ioria
[19:19] <EriC^^> yabbes: no, it won't make a difference in which default line
[19:19] <yabbes> oh, i see, EriC^^
[19:19] <ioria2_> yabbes, not working ?
[19:19] <yabbes> sadly no :(
[19:20] <ioria2_> yabbes, reverse the all, then
[19:20] <EriC^^> yabbes: what happens when you shutdown anyways?
[19:20] <Gallomimia> GTFr0: thats a lot of hardware :) still haven't found it and i hit my scrollback limit :P
[19:20] <yabbes> i just cant gui shutdown EriC^^ i cannot click on the thing in the upper right. nothing happens. no syslog event either
[19:21] <EriC^^> oh
[19:21]  * EriC^^ googles
[19:21] <ioria2_> yabbes, what machine is that ?
[19:21] <yabbes> desktop pc, i5
[19:21] <yabbes> 24xx
[19:22] <yabbes> amd graphics
[19:22] <EriC^^> maybe this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1861297
[19:22] <ioria2_> yabbes, fresh install or do-release-upgrade ?
[19:22] <yabbes> fresh install 15.04 ioria2_
[19:22] <ioria2_> yabbes, amd issue maybe
[19:22] <yabbes> really
[19:22] <ioria2_> yabbes, what driver are you using ?
[19:22] <yabbes> proprietary ones
[19:22] <yabbes> because steam wouldnt work otherwise
[19:23] <Gallomimia> from?
[19:23] <ioria2_> yabbes, yeah
[19:23] <Gallomimia> where did you get the drivers yabbes?
[19:23] <daftykins> yabbes: please try and respond on reduced lines without using enter as punctuation, please
[19:23] <yabbes> just switched the drivers in the menu of unity settings Gallomimia
[19:23] <EriC^^> yabbes: try this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1861297&page=2&p=11348871#post11348871
[19:24] <GTFr0> Gallomimia: lshw | less
[19:24] <yabbes> will do, daftykins
[19:24] <Gallomimia> GTFr0: i just grepped it thanks for the info. didn't quite tell me all i wanted to know
[19:24] <yabbes> but i've got the shutdown option, EriC^^. it's just that it doesn't seem to work..
[19:25] <GTFr0> Gallomimia: out of curiosity, what info were you looking for?
[19:25] <EriC^^> yabbes: try it though, it might reset it
[19:25] <yabbes> okay
[19:26] <ioria2_> yabbes, good luck
[19:26] <Gallomimia> GTFr0: i want to know if its CL9 or CL10. i think it's 9. also i realized i need to overclock my northbridge to get the ram to go 1866 instead of the 1600 it's locked at now. so it helped. i'm trying to buy an upgrade
[19:27] <Gallomimia> hm. why not try it now. i'm due for a reboot...
[19:27] <noobster> Hi all... I was wondering if there was a way to use Ubuntu 15.04 that boots into UEFI bios to chain boot an acer recovery partition? I have one in a boot loop because a client decided it was a good idea to install win10 without me. I need to get into the win8 factory default partition and run that tool. I have tried many recovery live CD like Hiren's but they will not boot in UEFI bios mode....
[19:27] <noobster> ...Thanks in advanced for any help!
[19:29] <OerHeks> noobster, the only way is to obtain the win8 dvd legally, it can be done with a free download, so you might be able to use the restore option.
[19:29] <lickalott> gents, does anyone know how to limit the usable strike space on an Elantech touchpad?  here's what I've played with so far and it is still overly sensitive (i.e. jumpes around when my palm touches the top left or top right corners of the pad)   xinput --watch-props "ETPS/2 Elantech Touchpad"
[19:29] <OerHeks> noobster, ask in ##windows for the url, i don't know exactly, depends on the version and language.
[19:29] <lickalott> xinput --set-prop "ETPS/2 Elantech Touchpad" "Synaptics Finger" 5 16 216
[19:30] <lickalott> xinput --set-prop "ETPS/2 Elantech Touchpad" "Synaptics Noise Cancellation" 20 20   synclient -l PalmDetect=1
[19:30] <wileee> noobster, acer will sell you an iso cheap most likely, or MS if you have a key, IE prrof legeal.
[19:30] <wileee> legal*
[19:30] <noobster> OerHeks: if I get the technet download then I have to get all the drivers too. I see the recovery partition I just want to boot to it
[19:30] <reisio> noobster: so you have a recovery partition, but can't boot it?
[19:31] <noobster> yes
[19:31] <noobster> usually its alt + f10
[19:31] <noobster> but thats not working
[19:31] <OerHeks> noobster, err... so you will get a new recovery partition, fresh windows, there is no difference i guess.
[19:31] <daftykins> noobster: hmm should have burnt a set of discs for the customer
[19:31] <noobster> Yea or high five his face
[19:32] <reisio> noobster: you can tell grub to boot from any partition or image of a partition you like
[19:32] <noobster> reisio: talk to me
[19:32] <daftykins> i think he is
[19:32] <EriC^^> noobster: you can always extract the image from the recovery partition, using diskpart and dism from a windows command prompt
[19:32] <OerHeks> maybe that recovery is win10 now :-D
[19:33] <reisio> noobster: just tell grub to boot it
[19:33] <noobster> OerHeks: Noooooooo!!!!!!  lol
[19:34] <reisio> unlikely
[19:34] <reisio> that would be far too "nice" of Microsoft
[19:34] <noobster> reisio: ok can you give url for tutorial? Google is not happy with my work choice I guess
[19:34] <noobster> word*
[19:35] <keikato> hi guys
[19:35] <noobster> I press c now I am at prompt
[19:35] <EriC^^> noobster: type ls -l
[19:35] <keikato> i have a problem
[19:35] <wileee> keikato, Try to spell it out in one post.
[19:35] <keikato> 15 years i worked with windows and now i try ubuntu -_-
[19:36] <noobster> "Secure Boot forbids loading module from (hd0)/boot/grub/x86-64-efi/ls.mod"
[19:36] <daftykins> keikato: can you ask the question then?
[19:36] <noobster> EriC^^:
[19:36] <EriC^^> noobster: enter the bios and disable secureboot
[19:36] <reisio> noobster: is grub controlling booting right now?
[19:37] <keikato> i havw a problem? my sound card (asus xonar ds) does not work heare
[19:38] <daftykins> keikato: can you be more specific than 'does not work' ?
[19:38] <noobster> Secure boot is enabled and no way to disable... its greyed out. Its also not even available in legacy boot, not sure if that's what I need to do but Win will not even try to boot in legacy
[19:39] <noobster> reisio: yes in UEFI boot mode on a Ubuntu 15.04 USB thumb drive
[19:39] <EriC^^> noobster: boot your os (ubuntu) and create a custom entry for the recovery partition
[19:39] <daftykins> noobster: apparently with acers you often must set a supervisor pass to enable settings
[19:39] <keikato> i see her in settings, she is enabled, but there is no sound
[19:39] <EriC^^> try what daftykins said first
[19:40] <noobster> brb
[19:40] <GTFr0> ok, rather stupid question:  any idea why I would be getting an IPv6 address for an interface even though I've disabled IPv6?
[19:40] <Gallomimia> GTFr0: my trip thru the bios was much more informative! if only i could find the package my ram came in :P
[19:40] <reisio> noobster: if you can get to the grub screen during bootup, you can point it at anything
[19:42] <noobster> daftykins: that worked, now I get a list of partitions... I guess I should start going through them to see if one will allow to recovery
[19:43] <daftykins> noobster: it'd be the largest i'm sure :) (besides the C: of course)
[19:43] <EriC^^> noobster: type ls -l , it should be a ntfs partition at the end most likely
[19:43] <daftykins> noobster: just a thought though, you said this user upgraded to 10 - you know you can reverse the process if they haven't already deleted the backup?
[19:43] <EriC^^> ( it's about 16gb here )
[19:43] <akik> noobster: so now it's happened that on your mobo secureboot can not be disabled?
[19:43] <daftykins> akik: no it was acer trickery
[19:44] <daftykins> bad EFI implementations that require passwords before some parameters can be changed
[19:44] <Sanemon> IS anyone on currently familiar with Samba+CUPS print servers. The documentation I found online is old and refers to cups pre apple buyout. I am trying to set it up for point and click install, however the 32 bit drivers don't seem to work.
[19:45] <KotoRez> does anyone know how to install the latest JDK on ubuntu?
[19:45] <daftykins> Sanemon: '32-bit drivers' of what?
[19:45] <daftykins> Apple developed CUPS afaik :P
[19:45] <daftykins> KotoRez: there are roughly one million guides online of how to get oracle JDK, or open JDK
[19:46] <GTFr0> how do you actually disable IPv6 in Ubuntu?
[19:46] <tgm4883> daftykins: incorrect. Closer to 2 million
[19:46] <Sanemon> For post script, I pulled them from a 32 bit windows 7 machine, placed them in the cups driver folders and then got them setup in samba
[19:46] <daftykins> :D
[19:46] <tgm4883> you can't forget about the youtube videos
[19:46] <daftykins> tgm4883: ^5
[19:46] <tgm4883> daftykins: ^5
[19:46] <daftykins> GTFr0: dunno, i gave up around 9.04 i believe
[19:47] <noobster> ok so if I want to try to boot say hda1,gpt2 what would that command look like?
[19:47] <GTFr0> ugh
[19:47] <Sanemon> Also "Easy Software Products" originally developed cups
[19:48] <GTFr0> I'm NATing my wifi connection to the LAN, and wifi keeps picking up IPv6 address from my provider... and it completely borks NAT
[19:48] <daftykins> Sanemon: i'm not sure on pulling windows ps files, why not go to the manufacturer direct? no Linux support?
[19:48] <daftykins> GTFr0: ##networking
[19:48] <GTFr0> daftykins: the networking isn't the problem... it's that Ubuntu is picking up an IPv6 address for wifi even though I've disabled IPv6
[19:49] <EriC^^> noobster: you try to chainload (hda1,gpt2)/EFI/Boot/bootx64.efi i think
[19:49] <akik> GTFr0: you can use echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf/all/disable_ipv6
[19:49] <daftykins> doesn't hurt to have a more task orientated channel to enquire in
[19:49] <akik> GTFr0: net.ipv6.conf.all.disable_ipv6 = 1 in /etc/sysctl.conf
[19:49] <GTFr0> it works fine when there is no IPv6 address
[19:49] <GTFr0> akik:  that's already done
[19:49] <GTFr0> as well as default, lo and wlan0
[19:50] <tgm4883> GTFr0: did you disable ipv6 in network manager?
[19:50] <tgm4883> or is this a server?
[19:50] <smoalne_> hello
[19:50] <akik> GTFr0: that sysctl mod didn't work for you?
[19:50] <GTFr0> tgm4883: no, it's a desktop
[19:50] <smoalne_> i was wondering if anyone could help me with monitor mode on my wifi card
[19:50] <GTFr0> so, networkmanager doesn't follow the sysctl stuff?
[19:50] <daftykins> smoalne_: nope sorry, as that's more a pen testing angle that's best handled elsewhere.
[19:51] <smoalne_> ok
[19:51] <smoalne_> thanks anyway
[19:51] <EriC^^> noobster: try to see what's in the partition first, ls (hda1,gpt2)/
[19:51] <akik> GTFr0: i have a tunnelbroker.net ipv6 tunnel and at the moment i input 1 to disable_ipv6 all ipv6 configuration gets erased from runtime
[19:58] <fernando> Boa tarde,
[19:59] <Zeklandia> Hello!
[20:00] <Zeklandia> Is it possible to get the Ubuntu Touch UI on desktop?
[20:01] <Nikesh> I'm seeing a lot of CPU load when running `sudo htop` with only a few terminal windows open. To me it looks X related, like compiz or lightdm. How can I investigate if my CPU is taking the load of my grahics card, such as if my drivers aren't up to take? This is a pretty stock install of Ubuntu 14.04, only a few days ago did I install it
[20:03] <EriC^^> Nikesh: lspci -k | grep -A2 VGA should say which driver you're using
[20:04] <akik> Nikesh: you might get some indication from powertop
[20:04] <Nikesh> akik: OK I'll install that and see
[20:06] <Nikesh> EriC^^: Ah thanks!
[20:06] <Zeklandia> Is it possible to use the Ubuntu Touch UI on a computer?
[20:06] <Zeklandia> I have a convertible and would like to do so
[20:06] <Nikesh> akik: What might I look for?
[20:07] <reisio> Zeklandia: well, it's not possible to without a computer
[20:07] <Zeklandia> No, I dont want to flash it on a phone
[20:07] <Zeklandia> I want to use it on my win10 tablet pc
[20:08] <akik> Nikesh: it can give you suggestions if it notices some process taking too much time doing something
[20:09] <akik> select the tunables tab
[20:09] <reisio> Zeklandia: computers are computers
[20:12] <Zeklandia> My computer is a tablet
[20:12] <Zeklandia> Unity sucks on it
[20:12] <Zeklandia> I want the touch interface
[20:17] <RevertToType> can someone guide me through an actual working way to get ubuntu server to reliably and automatically connect to a wpa-personal hidden network via wireless? I have tried nearly 20 different online tutorials and have only had moderate or temporary success
[20:18] <RevertToType> wap2-personal rather
[20:19] <kvaps> hi
[20:20] <reisio> RevertToType: just the right wpa_supplicant configuration is all
[20:20] <RevertToType> honestly it seems pretty ready and working from what i can tell
[20:21] <RevertToType> and don't i need some stuff in/around my network/interfaces file as well?
[20:22] <noobster> Ok so I think I have found that (hd1,gpt1) has the recovery image because it has OEM, Factory, Recovery, etc in it. It doesn't however have a EFI folder. and when I run chainloader (hd1)+1 the error I get is "invalid EFI file path" but I think I am super close
[20:26] <maxtech> hello
[20:27] <maxtech> i cant download any file
[20:27] <maxtech> lol
[20:27] <seanhub> Hey, anyone able to help me get Catalyst Control Centre?
[20:27] <maxtech> error sonic.exe
[20:28] <maxtech> error
[20:28] <maxtech> error 3175
[20:28] <maxtech> k
[20:28] <maxtech> what is it
[20:30] <ravi_> hi
[20:38] <noobster> when booting in legacy mode, how do I get to the "c" grub cli?
[20:39] <noobster> it boots stright into the installer with boot options but I want to chainload (hd1,gpt1)
[20:39] <Zluglu> Hello, I’ve got an issue with chage, does your chage manpage states anything about the -d 0 behavior?
[20:39] <noobster> straight*
[20:41] <Nikesh> On Ubuntu 14.04 can I force a downgrade from Firefox 40 to Firefox 39?
[20:41] <akik> noobster: try esc
[20:42] <jxf> How would I see what the default .bash_profile is for an Ubuntu user?
[20:42] <Bashing-om> noobster: Can you now boot to the grub boot menu ? Then it is but a matter of any ubuntu kernel as the selection, and press the 'c' key for the 'grub > prompt' .
[20:44] <noobster> well I got that when booting UEFI but now that I am in legacy i no longer get that... it goes straight to language select
[20:47] <noobster> jxf: open terminal, type "cd" then nano .bash_history
[20:47] <Bashing-om> noobster: (???) That " language select " sounds like you are booting the liveDVD and not to the ionstall .
[20:48] <noobster> I cant believe I cant boot the recovery partition on this machine to factory reset.. pre UEFI I could do it easy now its like pulling teeth lol
[20:48] <jxf> noobster: That's my current bash_history. Not sure how that's going to get me the *default* .bash_profile.
[20:48] <RevertToType> so i've gotten the wpa_supplicant.conf file to read happily when i through in wpa_supplicant -B -Dwext -i wlan0 wpa_supplicant.conf but how do i get this to auto-connect on boot?
[20:48] <Ben64> jxf: cat /etc/skel/.profile
[20:49] <EriC^^> jxf: ubuntu doesn't have a .bash_profile by default, it does have a .profile though
[20:49] <EriC^^> ^
[20:49] <jxf> @Ben64: Ah, awesome, thanks! and <3 EriC^^
[20:49] <EriC^^> noobster: boot the live usb for a sec
[20:50] <OerHeks> noobster, so you end up with obtaining the win8 dvd legally, it can be done with a free download, so you might be able to use the restore option. or replace the whole thing.
[20:51] <akik> RevertToType: you can put the wlan configuration data into /etc/network/interfaces
[20:51] <RevertToType> it seems there... it has a pre-up do i need to kill the eth0 auto-up and all that lines?
[20:52] <RevertToType> is it just putting preference to eth0 over my wlan0 devices or does it cycle?
[20:52] <akik> RevertToType: i've used pre-up in interfaces to bring up wifi nic
[20:52] <akik> RevertToType: i mean to run wpa_supplicant
[20:53] <RevertToType> does /etc/network/interfaces just read the first interface though (well first after l0)?
[20:53] <akik> RevertToType: what do you mean with preference?
[20:53] <EriC^^> noobster: when you boot the live usb, let me know
[20:53] <RevertToType> or will it read all the way down
[20:53] <akik> RevertToType: it's all the way down :)
[20:53] <RevertToType> hrm no reason why it shouldn't already be working then
[20:53] <akik> RevertToType: it's the auto stanza
[20:53] <RevertToType> I can just put autoup dhcp iface wlan0 and the next line being the wpa_supplicant command yes?
[20:54] <akik> RevertToType: it's auto wlan0 on one line
[20:54] <RevertToType> yeah
[20:55] <akik> RevertToType: then iface wlan0 inet dhcp on another
[20:55] <RevertToType> yup
[20:55] <sharkasdf> i just built my first pc and now im trying to update my mobo firmware using 'dos'. Do i just unzip the contents and put it on a usb and reboot?
[20:56] <RevertToType> @ akik it's line 1: auto wlan0   line 2: iface wlan0 inet dhcp  line 3: pre-up wpa_supplicant -Bw -Dwext -i wlan0 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf
[20:56] <RevertToType> and it's totally not connecting automatically
[20:56] <daftykins> sharkasdf: that's not ubuntu support, you only need to update if you're experiencing problems.
[20:56] <akik> RevertToType: RevertToType i dunno if you need the -D wext option, i had that
[20:56] <daftykins> sharkasdf: most boards update direct from flash drives these days
[20:57] <noobster> Bashing-om: yea not sure, while the bios is in UEFI mode with secure boot off I can get to that exact screen of kernal boot off of the live cd, press "c" and do ls -lah to see all the partitions, I see a NTFS part (hd1,gpt1) with files in it like Recovery, Factory, OEM, etc but no EFI/Boot/bootx64 files. So my thinking was that the recovery partition needs to have the bios set to Legacy Mode...
[20:57] <noobster> ...to chainload (hd1,0)+1 but I can not see the kernel selections of grub in Legacy mode, it goes directly to language select.
[20:57] <sharkasdf> i am experiencing problems. im getting a cpu fan error,  apparently updating will fix that
[20:57] <akik> RevertToType: and also if you should disable networkmanager, don't know, maybe?
[20:57] <daftykins> sharkasdf: sure you didn't just plug the fan onto the wrong motherboard header? :)
[20:57] <RevertToType> i mean maybe/maybe not if i put that in bash it connects, but it seems network/interfaces isn't doing anything
[20:57] <sharkasdf> ya
[20:57] <RevertToType> like it's def not firing up at least that :/
[20:57] <EriC^^> noobster: if it uses gpt it mostly is uefi
[20:58] <noobster> EriC^^: ok I am at the live-cd desktop
[20:58] <daftykins> sharkasdf: ##hardware will be more appropriate for you
[20:58] <EriC^^> noobster: ok, type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:58] <sharkasdf> thanks
[20:58] <noobster> but in Legacy mode
[20:58] <EriC^^> np
[20:59] <sm_art> need some help here
[21:00] <daftykins> sm_art: ask away with detail on one line please
[21:01] <sm_art> yes, i have some problems with unity
[21:01] <daftykins> can you type it out actually in full, phrased as a question?
[21:02] <noobster> gparted shows 6 partitions... sda1 = Recovery = 400 MB, sda2 ESP 300MB, sda3 MS Reserved 128MB, sda4 Acer 448GB (Windows), sda5 (no label) 26MB, sda6 Push Button Reset 17
[21:02] <noobster> GB
[21:03] <EriC^^> ok, it's sda6
[21:03] <EriC^^> type sudo mount /dev/sda6 /mnt
[21:03] <noobster> all NTFS but sda2 is fat32
[21:04] <aotea> Heyo, just did a clean install 14.04 64bit. Tried installing dropbox and couldn't access it at all. Neither through browser or desktop application.
[21:04] <noobster> EriC^^: its booted
[21:04] <noobster> EriC^^: booted into UEFI or Legacy??
[21:05] <noobster> Its booted with Legacy right now
[21:05] <daftykins> aotea: what did you do and what failed specifically?
[21:05] <EriC^^> noobster: ok, did you mount it?
[21:05] <EriC^^> hmm?
[21:05] <EriC^^> noobster: doesn't matter
[21:05] <EriC^^> did you type sudo mount /dev/sda6 /mnt ?
[21:05] <noobster> EriC^^: pm ?
[21:06] <EriC^^> no
[21:06] <sm_art> I was installed unity-tweak-tool, but, when I'm run the unity-tweak-tool, its appear a warning that "com.canonical.notify.osd, In order to work properly, unity Tweak Tool recommends you to install the necessary packages"
[21:06] <aotea> daftykins: It just says it cannot connect to internet, all help files about it suggests I either got proxy settings wrong or my firewall that blocks it... though ufw is inactive and I haven't touched proxies
[21:06] <sm_art> any one can solve it?
[21:06] <sm_art> I was installed unity-tweak-tool, but, when I'm run the unity-tweak-tool, its appear a warning that "com.canonical.notify.osd, In order to work properly, unity Tweak Tool recommends you to install the necessary packages"
[21:07] <daftykins> aotea: so all other online functionality is fine? where did you install from?
[21:07] <EriC^^> noobster: it's better on the channel main
[21:07] <aotea> daftykins: yes I can browse around on firefox and don't get any issued apt-getting stuff. Got the .deb from Dropbox.com for 64bit
[21:08] <sm_art> I'm download from this site
[21:08] <daftykins> aotea: yeah don't use that.
[21:08] <sm_art> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:tualatrix/ppa && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-tweak unity-tweak-tool
[21:08] <EriC^^> noobster: did you read daftykins 's suggestion about rolling back to win8 from win10?
[21:08] <daftykins> aotea: try the one from the repos, works for me in xubuntu
[21:08] <aotea> Oh so I just run apt-get dropbox?
[21:09] <daftykins> aotea: yep, you on 15.04 ?
[21:09] <aotea> daftykins: 14.04
[21:09] <daftykins> !info dropbox trusty
[21:10] <daftykins> aotea: even better then :)
[21:10] <daftykins> aotea: you're going to need to purge the existing one first
[21:10] <RevertToType> so any ideas on how to autoconnect and pull down an ip?
[21:11] <RevertToType> now it's connecting to the network just fine just need to pull an ip auto... currently at boot i have to dhclient wlan0
[21:12] <DalekSec> !info nautilus-dropbox
[21:13] <daftykins> DalekSec: that's the one, thanks
[21:13] <noobster> ok gave me an error about unclean dismount but I mounted -o ro and it is here in /mnt
[21:13] <EriC^^> noobster: ok, great, type ls -l /mnt
[21:13] <noobster> I have not because I dont know if it is win8 or win10
[21:14] <aotea> hmm, yeah but I must've failed in purging the former dropbox because I get error saying it won't install the nautlius one due to broken package
[21:14] <EriC^^> noobster: also type find /mnt -iname "*.wim"
[21:14] <sm_art> I suggest you to use the "copy" cloud storage
[21:15] <daftykins> noobster: it's quite easy to tell if it's 8 or 10 :)
[21:15] <sm_art> 12 GB free storage and integrated for linux
[21:16] <daftykins> aotea: "dpkg -l | grep dropb" in a http://paste.ubuntu.com please
[21:16] <noobster> ok there is /mnt/Recovery/WindowsRE/winre.wim and /mnt/RecoveryImage/instal.wim
[21:16] <noobster> install.wim*
[21:16] <EriC^^> noobster: ok, type ls -lh /mnt/RecoveryImage/install.wim
[21:16] <EriC^^> is it around 13gb or so?
[21:17] <noobster> 15GB
[21:17] <EriC^^> ok, that's your image
[21:17] <EriC^^> type ls -l /mnt, is there an EFI dir?
[21:17] <noobster> with all the drivers etc?
[21:18] <aotea> daftykins: paste.ubuntu.com/12202192/
[21:18] <noobster> nope
[21:18] <EriC^^> noobster: yeah it's the preinstalled image that is there when you first turn the pc on
[21:18] <daftykins> aotea: "sudo apt-get purge dropbox" then retry "sudo apt-get install nautilus-dropbox"
[21:19] <m8> hallo :-)
[21:19] <iNs> hello there. feeling kinda ashamed in here since goin thru with simple pptp connection (dont ask why ppt, its for test/benches purposes for my MA thesis ;)) is something i didnt expect to have problem with, but yea, the simplest configuration and thats what i end up with in logs http://paste.ubuntu.com/12202197/
[21:19] <noobster> ok so I need to back that up and google restoring a wim file then correct?
[21:19] <aotea> daftykins: Great works like a charm! thanks
[21:20] <daftykins> :)
[21:20] <daftykins> np
[21:22] <iNs> so the question would be: has anyone managed to get it working lul?
[21:22] <EriC^^> noobster: no, well you're options is to try to use grub to boot the recovery
[21:23] <EriC^^> but it might not work if the partitions have been altered, so if you get a recovery usb that has a command prompt (you need dism) you can extract the image
[21:23] <daftykins> iNs: what's the host for this PPTP?
[21:23] <Berry> Hello, I was wondering if anyone could help with a small, yet very troublesome issue I've been having. See, for some reason, no matter which flash drive I put in to my 14.04 Ubuntu desktop (64 bit), I don't have permissions to read it.
[21:24] <iNs> daftykins, what do you mean exactly?
[21:24] <daftykins> Berry: look at "dmesg | tail" when plugging one in, and also "mount" output (throw both in a pastebin)
[21:24] <daftykins> iNs: OS + server software configured for this
[21:24] <EriC^^> noobster: i was thinking if you could just extract it, as you can open the .wim in ubuntu if you open it with archive viewer but dism uses indexes (the image has 3-4 indexes like index1 is a less bloated install etc.) so i dont think it would be that easy to use ubuntu to extract the image
[21:24] <iNs> its 14.04 with default pptp daemon ;)
[21:24] <iNs> it is ubuntu channel after all isnt it :P
[21:25] <daftykins> iNs: you'd be surprised, we get queries about peoples dishwashers on the fritz but they run ubuntu so it's ok.
[21:25] <Berry> http://pastebin.com/f1Mjz0vR
[21:25] <EriC^^> noobster: try to see ls /mnt first, you need to chainload the EFI/Boot/bootx64.efi file i think, if that works you might be able to restore as usual using the recovery
[21:26] <daftykins> iNs: #ubuntu-server might be more useful on the off chance
[21:26] <iNs> daftykins, :D which is why im all dafuq in here. i dont even neeed masquerading for now and all, i just need to server-client connection going on
[21:26] <pagios_> hello
[21:26] <iNs> good point daftykins
[21:26] <pagios_> any idea about this error? http://pastebin.com/McUwekUk
[21:26] <Berry> daftykins: http://pastebin.com/f1Mjz0vR
[21:26] <daftykins> iNs: looks like your peers aren't even communicating though
[21:27] <gzcwnk> hi I am trying to set specific dns servers on a ubuntu dhcp box and NetworkManager isnt playing ball, how can I disable/change networkmanager from the cli?
[21:27] <daftykins> Berry: are you the first user that was created on this install? thus uid 1000?
[21:27] <Berry> daftykins: Yes, I am the first and only user
[21:28] <daftykins> Berry: ok - "ls -al /media/berry/801A-F501/" ?
[21:28] <Berry> daftykins: ls: cannot access /media/berry/801A-F501/: Permission denied
[21:28] <daftykins> heh weird
[21:28] <gzcwnk> i tried editing interfaces but its being ignored
[21:28] <daftykins> Berry: ls -al /media/
[21:29] <akik> gzcwnk: nmcli but you could take a look at using dns-nameservers in /etc/network/interfaces
[21:29] <daftykins> gzcwnk: why not use NM to set the DNS?
[21:29] <Berry> daftykins: berry@trouble:~$ ls -al /media/ total 12 drwxr-xr-x   3 root  root  4096 May  5 17:42 . drwxr-xr-x  25 root  root  4096 Aug 24 16:14 .. drw-rw-rw-+  3 berry berry 4096 Aug 26 17:16 berry
[21:29] <gzcwnk> akik tried its being ignored
[21:29] <daftykins> Berry: pretty unreadable, can you pastebin it?
[21:30] <akik> great
[21:30] <akik> let's bring systemd's resolved into the picture
[21:30] <pagios_> anyone?
[21:30] <gzcwnk> i have cli only its a blackbox no gui
[21:30] <akik> gzcwnk: you can also set the nameservers thru dhcp client config
[21:30] <gzcwnk> akik tried taht didnt work either
[21:31] <akik> gzcwnk: try harder
[21:31] <gzcwnk> also resolvconf/ tail
[21:31] <fishcooker> i have keyauth on sshd config enabled
[21:31] <gzcwnk> well if it doesnt work according to docs
[21:31] <EriC^^> noobster: looks like you can extract wim files in ubuntu http://sourceforge.net/projects/wimlib/
[21:31] <tgm4883> gzcwnk: this is ubuntu server? Can you pastebin your config?
[21:32] <gzcwnk> its a graylog ova
[21:32] <EriC^^> noobster: if you do extract it, you'll want to extract the ESP.wim to that fat32 partition you have right now too, that's what boots windows
[21:32] <noobster> ok I will look and mount all the partitions in o ro and let you know all the ones that have a efi/boot folder brb
[21:32] <tgm4883> gzcwnk: maybe  you should tell the graylog people to stop futzing with the underlying OS?
[21:33] <EriC^^> noobster: the EFI/Boot should be in the same recovery partition you have mounted right now
[21:33] <gzcwnk> tgm well i think its more to do with networkmanager
[21:33] <tgm4883> gzcwnk: maybe  you should tell the graylog people to stop futzing with network manager?
[21:34] <daftykins> Berry: did you pastebin it?
[21:34] <gzcwnk> if the setup isnt alterable its not graylog's issue I suspect
[21:34] <Berry> daftykins: Yes, I pasted it to you. http://pastebin.com/V3ZFXwQz
[21:34] <daftykins> Berry: ok and "ls -al /media/berry/" ?
[21:35] <Berry> daftykins: http://pastebin.com/GnvAGA7V
[21:35] <daftykins> wow that's... interesting
[21:36] <daftykins> Berry: and prefix sudo to the last command?
[21:36] <tgm4883> gzcwnk: so you're telling me that graylog released an OVA that uses ubuntu as it's base, the ubuntu documents that you've referenced don't work for you, and you DON'T think that is graylogs fault?
[21:37] <noobster> sda2 is the only partition with a EFI folder... also has BOOTSECT.BAK
[21:37] <tgm4883> gzcwnk: you're right, it's far more likely that ubuntu documentation is broken
[21:37] <gzcwnk> tgm well there are sevral possibilities starting with me
[21:37] <gzcwnk> ive used google and several sites
[21:37] <Berry> daftykins: It should be noted that when I boot up, the computer tries to mount three things. I messed around with my second hard drive, trying to get ubuntu installed on it, but it wasn't met with success. http://pastebin.com/R0hdvSpA
[21:38] <gzcwnk> so its possible its graylog but then the Q is why
[21:38] <tgm4883> gzcwnk: have you tried #graylog
[21:38] <backsupx> gzcwnk: Google it
[21:38] <tgm4883> backsupx: don't. That isn't helpful
[21:38] <gzcwnk> most channels in here are asleep at this time
[21:38] <daftykins> Berry: did that include playing with /etc/fstab ?
[21:38] <gzcwnk> its dead
[21:38] <tgm4883> gzcwnk: their channel being dead makes this a Ubuntu issue how?
[21:38] <Berry> daftykins: No, just messing around with the partitions on it
[21:39] <Berry> daftykins: Through software, not through the console
[21:39] <daftykins> hrmm
[21:39] <unkn-error> hello... I need some help changing the default user shell from bash to fish (when I open the terminal, I wish to start without needing to type "fish") |cshs -s is not working http://pastebin.com/vrmE9wE3
[21:39] <gzcwnk> tgm im looking at th OS and trying to see what I am doing wrong
[21:39] <tgm4883> gzcwnk: and my point is that graylog devs futzed enough with it that it should no longer be considered Ubuntu
[21:39] <daftykins> Berry: well that one is going to require someone with more experience than me perhaps, you can see udisks is auto mounting the drive yet despite you owning it it requires sudo to even list the mountpoint - which is bad
[21:40] <noobster> EriC^^: it is not... it is located in sda2 but the image is in sda6
[21:40] <gzcwnk> oh i c
[21:40] <gzcwnk> f***
[21:40] <noobster> sda2 is also fat32
[21:40] <noobster> sda6 is NTFS
[21:40] <EriC^^> noobster: that's odd, i have an EFI dir in the recovery partition which i think is what it uses to boot the recovery process, i also have an ESP.wim which is the efi partition for the install
[21:41] <henrique_> i
[21:41] <henrique_> hi
[21:41] <tgm4883> gzcwnk: however, at this point. It sounds like they've completely broken/disabled resolvconf, so you should be able to just put the lines directly in /etc/resolv.conf
[21:41] <henrique_> Brasil??
[21:41] <daftykins> !br
[21:41] <Berry> daftykins: I mean, I could just reinstall ubuntu if needed
[21:41] <EriC^^> noobster: maybe the ESP.wim is in the install.wim in yours, as it uses indexes, maybe it's like index1 is the ESP for instance
[21:42] <gzcwnk> tgm that's what I was thinking until u told me they'd changed things
[21:42] <henrique_> #ubuntu-br
[21:42] <daftykins> Berry: bit extreme. try "sudo chmod -R 755 /media/berry/"
[21:42] <EriC^^> noobster: try that wimlib package, if you can view the contents of install.wim you can just extract them to the big NTFS, and extract the ESP to the fat32 one and reboot
[21:43] <Berry> daftykins: Wow, why didn't I even think to try that
[21:44] <daftykins> Berry: any result though?
[21:44] <gzcwnk> nm is overriding resolv.conf
[21:44] <Berry> daftykins: It 100% worked
[21:44] <gzcwnk> so that didnt work
[21:44] <Berry> daftykins: I feel like an idiot now ._.
[21:44] <owen1> i have a script file that starts with #!bin/sh when i run it i see: bash: ./foo: bin/sh: bad interpreter: No such file or directory
[21:44] <owen1> any ideas?
[21:44] <daftykins> gzcwnk: still not Ubuntu- but resolvconf will fight resolv.conf edits.
[21:44] <daftykins> gzcwnk: i personally purge it, reboot, then hardcode DNS on all my server VMs.
[21:44] <gzcwnk> daftykins yes
[21:45] <daftykins> yes what?
[21:45] <EriC^^> noobster: you could try setting the recovery partition with the boot flag, and try booting in legacy mode, it might boot it, but you'd install windows in legacy mode i think
[21:45] <gzcwnk> im sort of using this as a learning point
[21:45] <daftykins> Berry: cool - to be honest i find it odd that lacking group perms stopped you handling it
[21:45] <gzcwnk> not blindly doing that
[21:45] <daftykins> gzcwnk: well don't learn on unstable junk :)
[21:45] <gzcwnk> i have not used debian/ubuntu much for years
[21:45] <gzcwnk> well i didnt know it was unstable
[21:46] <Berry> daftykins: Well, thank you a ton for helping!
[21:46] <daftykins> Berry: np :)
[21:48] <owen1> nevermind. i was missing / in #!bin/sh
[21:48] <cosc> Hi all. Under VMWare, Ubuntu gets stuck with a blank screen after some inactivity. I thought the screensaver was the culprit, but I disabled it and the same thing is happening. Any ideas?
[21:48] <daftykins> power save?
[21:50] <cosc> daftykins: I put every setting on "never" on the power save settings. No luck.
[21:50] <daftykins> cosc: ubuntu version and vmware product + version?
[21:51] <cosc> VMWare Player 6.0.7. Linux ubuntu 3.16.0-45-generic #60~14.04.1-Ubuntu SMP
[21:52] <daftykins> that's a kernel not a version
[21:52] <daftykins> ah it was hiding at the end :D
[21:52] <daftykins> hrmm 3.16 comes from a deprecated distro now
[21:52] <daftykins> release version, not distro
[21:53] <daftykins> cosc: we're also up to 14.04.3 so your install is out of date to my mind
[21:53] <daftykins> cosc: boot a 14.04.3 download and see how it fairs in the live session
[21:53] <daftykins> but you get what you pay for with vmware player ;)
[21:53] <staples23> it seems most proprietary products concern themselves more with making things as easy and fast as they can for their customers
[21:53] <cosc> daftykins: Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS
[21:53] <staples23> i think this sort of predicting what people want before they even want it thing, is   appealing to a lot of people, and why most probably dont use open source products as much, i mean when windows monitors the amount of time i spend in certain folders etc. to order them accordingly & also scans my offline txt/doc files to adjust my searches on bing, it makes a lot of my research faster and more productive
[21:54] <staples23> for example when im buying stuff on amazon or youtube whatever all the algorithms designed to reccomend me stuff
[21:54] <staples23> a lot of it ends up being helpful
[21:54] <staples23> and if its not i just dont click/buy or use it
[21:54] <Leverquin> hello. any suggestion for first linux? thinking about linux mint KDE. but all i see they switch from KDE4 to plasma and that looks little hm.... weird to me.
[21:55] <cosc> daftykins, I'll try that. I thought there may be a simpler solution :(
[21:55] <iNs> daftykins, they do, realised its somehoew chap secrets problem http://paste.ubuntu.com/12202341/
[21:55] <daftykins> cosc: your paste said 14.04.1
[21:55] <iNs> but why on earth, i dont know
[21:55] <k2everest_> Leverquin, why u dont just go with Ubuntu?
[21:55] <Leverquin> cuz everyone talk that unity is bad?>
[21:56] <k2everest_> Everyonw who?
[21:56] <cosc> daftykins, 14.0.3 LTS is what lsb_release shows
[21:57] <daftykins> cosc: ok, still an out of date install that's been upgraded over time i suspect
[21:57] <Leverquin> all i want is OS who is stable, can use few addons like notes on desktop.clock calendar. i just can't use this win 7 anymore. everytime i use skype webcam or dota2 i just got blue screen
[21:57] <k2everest_> DOnt have better or worse, have what work for your needs
[21:58] <k2everest_> Leverquin start with ubuntu, do u know why?
[21:58] <Leverquin> no? please tell me
[21:59] <k2everest_> Because everybody is using ubuntu, u can check this room is most fully in IRC, and u will get free and nice support for an opensource software, or u think that u will found easy help, now is the time to DIY
[21:59] <soreau> Hi, is there a way to stop xscreensaver from running when a fullscreen window exists?
[22:00] <Leverquin> ok. then shall i get Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS or Ubuntu 15.04
[22:01] <drkjstr> soreau, check http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/96127/disable-xscreensaver-when-program-is-running
[22:01] <tucho> Hello
[22:01] <tucho> Is anyone there?
[22:01] <k2everest_> I am using buntu 14.04 LTS
[22:01] <tucho> Cool, I'm using 15.04
[22:01] <daftykins> tucho: yes, ask away if you have a support question
[22:02] <tucho> I have no support questions at the moment
[22:02] <EriC^^> Leverquin: i'd recommend 14.04
[22:02] <tucho> I just came to see what's up
[22:02] <soreau> drkjstr: thanks, is that installed by default on say 14.04?
[22:02] <EriC^^> i'm using it as well, it's stable and nice
[22:02] <rory> tyan: come chat in #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[22:02] <tucho> I've just recently gotten into Linux
[22:02] <k2everest_> I dont recommend 15.04 because I never used it, but look like it is fine and stable
[22:02] <tucho> It's fine to me
[22:02] <tucho> I've had no troubles, just installed it a few days ago
[22:03] <rory> yeah, "I don't recommend" doesn't mean "I recommend not using"
[22:03] <tucho> I see
[22:03] <rory> just means "I'm not able to personally recommend"
[22:03] <k2everest_> yeap
[22:04] <drkjstr> soreau, I'm pretty sure it is not.  It might not be in the respository either.
[22:04] <rory> FWIW I use 15.04 (Ubuntu Mate) on my work laptop since April and it's been solid as a rock.
[22:04] <Leverquin> ok ok so 14.04 . thanks. well i would like to try mint and ubutu too. but when i check on mint there is like KDE/cim,MATE just can't choose
[22:04] <rory> Leverquin: There's Kubuntu, Xubuntu, et al for Ubuntu too, so the choice is there for both Ubuntu and Mint
[22:04] <Leverquin> rory you want to say that ubuntu 14.04 is mate not unity?
[22:05] <rory> Leverquin: I mean to say I'm using a version of Ubuntu called "Ubuntu Mate", which uses Mate instead of Unity
[22:05] <Leverquin> Jesus. now i will never choice linux cuz i can't choice witch one to take
[22:05] <rory> Leverquin: Might as well just pick one at random then. Probably default Ubuntu (unity)
[22:06] <drkjstr> Leverquin, Mate is a fork of the old Gnome2.
[22:06] <rory> Leverquin: Mostly because the community support is there for default Ubuntu, and some people in this channel won't help you if they figure out you're on K/X/L/buntu
[22:06] <Leverquin> jesus. and maria! so much k x l
[22:06] <rory> Leverquin: You can also install multiple desktop environments on the same system, and choose which one every login
[22:06] <Leverquin> i actually tried lubuntu on old machina
[22:06] <soreau> drkjstr: I wrote a script to do it with wmctrl but it seems like this would be in code.. somewhere by default. I think it's up to each app to disable/re-enable it if they care to but never mess with it because it's not just a single function call
[22:06] <rory> Leverquin: So it's not like you HAVE to tie yourself into using a particular one
[22:07] <rory> Leverquin: You can try them all out and then uninstall the ones you don't like.
[22:07] <Leverquin> really?
[22:07] <Leverquin> linux looks like nice guy.
[22:07] <rory> Leverquin: Yes. The kubuntu-desktop, xubuntu-desktop etc packages will grab all the packages needed
[22:08] <rory> Leverquin: IMO just install standard Ubuntu, familiarise yourself with it, and then install others if you get bored
[22:08] <Leverquin> ok i will download ubunty 14.04 and keep it in folder with all mint versions :S till i remove this devil and clean all stuff from pc :@
[22:08] <Leverquin> btw rory how to send private messages XD
[22:08] <rory> Leverquin: /msg person foo
[22:09] <drkjstr> soreau, I agree, but I don't see it as an option in the manual.
[22:11] <Nikesh> How can I check if the iso of 15.04 I have is the latest?
[22:11] <tgm4883> !md5 | Nikesh
[22:11] <bekks> Nikesh: There is only one 15.04 iso.
[22:12] <Nikesh> Oh OK :D
[22:12] <Armadillos> Nikesh: Doesn't really matter.  Once you install the software, it will do a software update check, and you'll get the latest updates.
[22:12] <Nikesh> OK
[22:12] <Nikesh> Wow, Ubuntu Phone in India!
[22:12] <drkjstr> Nikesh, you'll just have to either check the install updates option during installation, or just do a "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade" after the installation.
[22:12] <Nikesh> That's so exciting
[22:13] <Nikesh> tgm4883 bekks Armadillos drkjstr Thank you all! :)
[22:16] <noobster> EriC^^: I will try again after kid goes to bed. 15.04 doesnt have something correct on the live cd about libxml and there is not a repo with wimlib in it for 15.04. I am burning 14.04 that has a repo with dependance so it might be easier to do on that.
[22:16] <hybris_> test
[22:17] <noobster> Thanks everyone for your help
[22:19] <siloxid> I installed ubuntu 15.04 from usb stick.  grub installation failed and I had to install lilo.  now it drops into busybox stating that it can't find /dev/sdb1 - which is true, lilo should have been set up pointing to /dev/sda1.  how do I reconfigure lilo?
[22:20] <wileee> siloxid, install again correctly
[22:21] <siloxid> I never told lilo which device to point to - it will do the same thing again and that isn't an option
[22:21] <wileee> siloxid, Install ubuntu again, lilo should auto see it, two boot app failures is not a good sign
[22:22] <daftykins> siloxid: +1 to wileee - going off GRUB is a sign of other issues, LILO is not the answer
[22:28] <Changa> Hi, I cannot control my laptop's screen brightness from my keyboard shortcuts. the gui appears but the brightness doesnt change
[22:28] <Changa> I'm using Acer Timeline-X I don't know what to try. I tried installing backlightx and creating 20-intel.conf file
[22:29] <daftykins> Changa: tried any of the stuff that refers to adding kernel boot parameters like "acpibacklight=" ?
[22:29] <Changa> I should, saw that somewhere
[22:29] <Leverquin> what is systemd?
[22:30] <daftykins> Changa: have you also seen - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AspireTimeline/Fixes#Brightness_Control_.28fn.2B-Arrow.29 ?
[22:30] <h0mer> system management daemon
[22:30] <Leverquin> witch means what?
[22:30] <daftykins> Changa: yeah speaks of acpi_backlight=vendor
[22:30] <h0mer> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Systemd
[22:31] <h0mer> just a fancy way to manage processes, services, auto-start services etc...
[22:32] <MrJones> hi
[22:33] <MrJones> is there some graphical partitioning tool that supports LUKS and resizing?
[22:33] <MrJones> gparted doesn't seem to support LUKS, gnome disks doesn't seem to offer any option to resize
[22:34] <daftykins> MrJones: fwiw i probably wouldn't trust it anyway, i'd backup + recreate
[22:34] <Leverquin> i don't see why ubunty doesn't come with flash, java codescs vlc gimp like mint :(
[22:34] <daftykins> Leverquin: good reasons
[22:34] <MrJones> daftykins: trust in what way? I'm on a live system right now, it's not like this is an infected windows machine or anything..
[22:35] <MrJones> or the live ubuntu would store my encryption pw forever
[22:35] <daftykins> MrJones: well i assume you care about your data.
[22:35] <daftykins> i think you grabbed the wrong end of the stick there
[22:35] <MrJones> "how can I resize my partition?" - "i think you grabbed the wrong end of the stick here"
[22:35] <MrJones> jesus it's 2015
[22:35] <MrJones> and yes I do have backups
[22:36] <MrJones> now is there a capable graphical tool or not/
[22:36] <MrJones> I can go the command line way but I just rather wouldn't
[22:36] <daftykins> that is an extremely poor attitude.
[22:36] <MrJones> I think fedora's anaconda actually supports all of this, but sadly I'm on an ubuntu live disk
[22:36] <daftykins> well you're free to go make one.
[22:36] <MrJones> what is your problem?
[22:36] <MrJones> I just asked very regularly if there is such a tool
[22:37] <MrJones> I'm not asking you to magically make one ..
[22:37] <daftykins> right and i pointed out a friendly warning and you're flying off the handle
[22:37] <daftykins> goodbye
[22:37] <MrJones> warning to trust no graphical tools to ever resize something even if I have a full back?
[22:37] <MrJones> right
[22:39] <MrJones> *backup
[22:40] <Didge-> Heya folks, Does Ubuntu have a Mobile Devices based IRC channel?
[22:41] <daftykins> !touch
[22:42] <Didge-> Niceone! cheers dude :D
[22:42] <daftykins> np :)
[22:43] <Didge-> That's a nice feature mate ;) Nice to meet you btw :D
[22:46] <MrJones> gnome disks doesn't have a hidden resize button somewhere does it? so far I can only spot delete and recreate and such
[22:46] <MrJones> it seems pretty capable otherwise but oddly enough doesn't seem to have a resize functionality..
[22:48] <darkfader> oh.. this is a cool program.. DoIt   (runs command on remote Windows PC)
[22:49] <darkfader> makes my VM even more seamless
[22:54] <xangua> MrJones: if you want to resize a partition use gparted in a live iso, backups are always important
[22:56] <bprompt> MrJones:   yeap, install gparted, just a few kbs, and use the slider to resize the partition :)
[22:56] <daftykins> i wonder if you folks noted it was encrypted
[22:58] <OerHeks> oh LUKS .. i love the warnings https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ResizeEncryptedPartitions
[22:59] <daftykins> 'here be dragons'
[23:00] <jjavaholic> how would you diagnose touchpad issues?
[23:04] <MrJones> daftykins: fwiw, it appears blivet has just had lots of git commits activity to implement luks resizing as recent as june. doesn't really look like they're done tho.. and strangely gnome disks doesn't do resizing?
[23:04] <MrJones> so I guess at this point no tool supports it
[23:04] <MrJones> otherwise I'd give blivet-gui a try, but I guess I'm a year too early ;(
[23:05] <daftykins> ah you calmed down, cool.
[23:06] <MrJones> daftykins: more like, I googled a bit myself since nobody here had a good idea
[23:07] <MrJones> I'm still not sure if gnome disks really has no resize or if I'm just missing it
[23:07] <daftykins> i wouldn't even try to use that one
[23:07] <MrJones> it seems to detect the luks things down to all details
[23:07] <MrJones> even allows me to change passphrase
[23:11] <seanhub> Hi guys, i have a USB problem, can anyone help?
[23:11] <daftykins> seanhub: once you share some details yep
[23:12] <AlternativElite> hi all, I recently installed thightvncserver and all works well. but I would like to see the log files to see who logged in. search with google, but no luck
[23:12] <daftykins> thight or tight?
[23:12] <AlternativElite> sorry, tight of course
[23:12] <daftykins> AlternativElite: the config files may speak of a log file path, if not /var/log somewhere
[23:13] <AlternativElite> daftykins, thanks, I'll have a look
[23:21] <jaden> h
[23:24] <AlternativElite> daftykins, I found the .log file of vnc server. It turned out that there were many authentication failures from an IP from China. LOL;) seems I need to make a harder to crack password...
[23:24] <daftykins> oops :)
[23:24] <daftykins> AlternativElite: non-standard port numbers are always handy too, though not a true form of security - they can cut down on portscan based bots like those
[23:25] <daftykins> so 5900 i think it is for VNC, maybe change to something in the tens of thousands
[23:26] <AlternativElite> daftykins, I will do that. Definately tomorrow, here it's already 1:25 AM...but I will stop vnc-server until some changes are made.:)
[23:27] <daftykins> sounds good :)
[23:27] <AlternativElite> thanks for your support...will check more often #ubuntu channel...
[23:27] <ablest1980> anyonr have openvpn?
[23:27] <AlternativElite> good nicht
[23:27] <AlternativElite> *good night
[23:28] <ablest1980> german?
[23:28] <daftykins> ablest1980: yep
[23:28] <ablest1980> cool
[23:29] <ablest1980> daftykins, do you know openvpn?
[23:29] <ablest1980> how do i run openvpn from terminal?
[23:29] <daftykins> run it? as in as a client, or...?
[23:30] <ablest1980> how do i do this
[23:30] <ablest1980> openvpn --config client.ovpn
[23:30] <ablest1980> client yes
[23:30] <daftykins> well you need that client profile file to begin with
[23:30] <daftykins> has a VPN provider supplied you with one?
[23:30] <ablest1980> i dont know
[23:31] <daftykins> ok so lets back up - why do you want a VPN connection? :)
[23:31] <ablest1980> protection
[23:31] <daftykins> from what
[23:32] <ablest1980> my ip
[23:32] <daftykins> on what services?
[23:32] <ablest1980> internet
[23:34] <daftykins> ablest1980: so essentially, you don't actually have a VPN server you want to connect to?
[23:37] <promet> in a new 15.04 install, I guess, there is no longer a base xorg.conf file, but these instructions are broken out in the xorg.conf.d directory files. Where would I fiddle with a driver module change?
[23:37] <daftykins> promet: as in you want to use a specific driver? which?
[23:37] <promet> Not quite sure, radeon prolly
[23:37] <promet> I'm trying to kickstart an old imac g3
[23:37] <ablest1980> i have openvpn
[23:38] <promet> but X won't start, blackscreen
[23:38] <daftykins> ablest1980: ok you installed it on your own machine - but you need something to connect to with it - so you need a service on the other end
[23:38] <promet> looks like the system complains about fglrx
[23:38] <daftykins> promet: oh dear Tux - ok that's a bit different :) can you boot with 'nomodeset' ?
[23:39] <greenride> Anyone know which package provides libftd2xx.so.0
[23:39] <greenride> ?
[23:39] <promet> daftykins, I will try that
[23:39] <ablest1980> i signed up for openvpn
[23:40] <daftykins> ablest1980: where?
[23:40] <ablest1980> openvpn is just a client?
[23:40] <ablest1980> openvpn.net
[23:40] <daftykins> it is a client and a server, but you need to set up a server yourself
[23:40] <daftykins> or sign up to a service that provides one
[23:40] <xubuntu666> can I update a bootable usb with persistence?
[23:41] <ablest1980> ok
[23:42] <xubuntu666> It's not installed to usb drive, I used startup disk creator on desktop to put ubuntu on pendrive.
[23:42] <ablest1980> im in there # ty daftykins
[23:43] <wileee> xubuntu666, There are limitations, what is the end goal?
[23:44] <xubuntu666> I have a bunch of hardware to test, so I may have to install modules or whatnot, and I would like that to be with a fully updated system
[23:44] <wileee> xubuntu666, Bad environment than, use a virtual.
[23:45] <xubuntu666> virtual? that's not going to make it easy to test hardware. this computer doesn't have a hd
[23:45] <daftykins> buy one
[23:45] <Danskmand> Hello :-) - I did a "apt-get install mysql-server" - it did a lot of things, but then this:
[23:45] <daftykins> xubuntu666: when you say hardware, what items do you mean? graphics cards or pretty much anything?
[23:46] <TJ-> xubuntu666: I generally install the LTS + the updated Hardware Enablement kernels to the USB device, and boot each PC from that... you have all the tools and can keep it updated without jumping through hoops
[23:46] <Danskmand> Setting up mysql-server-5.5 (5.5.44-0ubuntu0.14.04.1) ...
[23:46] <Danskmand> start: Job failed to start
[23:46] <Danskmand> invoke-rc.d: initscript mysql, action "start" failed.
[23:46] <Danskmand> dpkg: error processing package mysql-server-5.5 (--configure):
[23:46] <Danskmand>  subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[23:46] <daftykins> !paste | Danskmand
[23:46] <xubuntu666> i have sound cards, modems, a few old video cards, nic, raid card
[23:46] <Danskmand> Sorrryyyy :-)
[23:46] <daftykins> Danskmand: try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server-5.5"
[23:46] <xubuntu666> TJ-, so an install is preferable?
[23:47] <Danskmand> ...Is broken or not fully installed....
[23:47] <Danskmand> daftykins:
[23:48] <TJ-> xubuntu666: I find it so... you have all the benefits of package upgrades, can install additional packages with tooling, without needing to mess about with a persistent Live image
[23:48] <daftykins> Danskmand: "dpkg -l | grep mysql" in a http://paste.ubuntu.com please
[23:48] <xubuntu666> If install would be the easy way, I really should find a hd so I don't kill the key. Thanks TJ-, wileee and daftykins
[23:48] <TJ-> xubuntu666: I install the 32-bit (i386) images but I also install both 32-bit and 64-bit kernels. That way it can boot on both i386 and amd64 architectures using the same userspace
[23:49] <xubuntu666> good idea
[23:49] <TJ-> xubuntu666: as long as you disable swap I've not found the USB flash dieing - I've had some of them many years
[23:49] <Danskmand> Daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12202906/
[23:50] <xubuntu666> no? I didn't go in depth, but I just read about many more writes on install compared to live
[23:50] <daftykins> Danskmand: actually it looks potentially straightforward, try "sudo apt-get purge mysql* " (note the * ) then "sudo apt-get install mysql-server"
[23:50] <gabmus> hello everyone, I have a little question: I made an app with python and gtk (using glade) and I wanted to package it for some distros. but then I tought: I run this app just by running the executable python file, that loads the .glade file real time. where am I supposed to put those files in my fs?
[23:52] <Danskmand> daftykins: Purging:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/12202911/
[23:53] <Danskmand> daftykins: Ok ? - install now ?
[23:54] <daftykins> Danskmand: hmm i might actually add "sudo rm -r /etc/mysql" - assuming this is a clean install so you have nothing you need to keep
[23:55] <Danskmand> Well, there is only a "debian.cnf" in there anyway...
[23:55] <xubuntu666> gabmus, put your files in /usr/share/projectname/
[23:55] <daftykins> Danskmand: kill it regardless
[23:55] <gabmus> xubuntu666: wow, why didn't I think of that... thanks!
[23:56] <xubuntu666> gabmus, include a script that starts your program, possibly checking for previously running instances, or whatever. Link to it from /usr/bin
[23:56] <Danskmand> Okay...did it - more to delete before installing ?
[23:56] <gabmus> xubuntu666: thanks! you've been of great help
[23:56] <xubuntu666> gabmus, no prob.
[23:57] <putolov> hi, what to do when ubuntu is frozen ?
[23:57] <Chicken> salve putinhas
[23:58] <xubuntu666> putolov, how frozen is it? is your caps lock light flashing?
[23:58] <xubuntu666> putolov, can you toggle numlock?
[23:58] <putolov> xubuntu666, yes
[23:59] <promet> daftykins, I tried the nomodeset, but no dice
[23:59] <daftykins> promet: what happens at boot?
[23:59] <xubuntu666> putolov, if your caps lock light is flashing, you have a kernel panic. Probably faulty hardware or a loose connection. Use power button. If you were answering the second question, ignorre all that