[00:30] How goes the Kubuntu testing? [00:42] The ISOs seem to install fine, but after a while and a couple of re-boots, I get: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=351805 [00:42] KDE bug 351805 in general "Configuration file "//.config/kwalletd5rc" not writable. Please contact your system administrator." [Normal,Unconfirmed] [00:43] Feel free to add your results here: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/345/builds [00:45] * ahoneybun starts his tests [00:47] When the fix to launchpad bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-release-upgrader/+bug/1488843 lands, I will test the upgrade from Vivid. [00:47] Launchpad bug 1488843 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu Wily) "SRU: upgrader kde frontend fails to start" [Critical,Confirmed] [00:49] Is it only me that finds when the ISO starts and the keyboard symbol is at bottom of screen, there's no way to bring up the language menu ? [01:01] just a little weird that I have half oxygen icons [01:04] finished my test for entire disk [01:04] PASSED [03:11] ovidiu-florin: could you tell if you think digikam is stable enough to be moved to the backport-ppa? [05:33] Riddell: [05:33] http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-kde-commits/2015-August/086333.html [05:33] | [05:33] v [05:33] http://i.imgur.com/C5z6bS4.jpg [05:34] RIP thread.. [05:52] Riddell: one of those look pretty much like any-depends-any http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/applications/kcontacts.git/commit/?h=kubuntu_wily_archive&id=5c930a6c3716c1541843bd3de4f4390dda3fba18 [06:05] ahoneybun: I've tested digikam only a bit. It seems to work. I haven't encountered any issues so far [06:11] good morning [06:22] morning soee [06:23] soee: do you see any urgent thigs that need to be done on the website before I ask the sysadmins to launch it today? [06:29] ovidiu-florin: link please, dont have it here at work [06:29] https://www-new.kubuntu.org/ [06:32] ovidiu-florin: https://www-new.kubuntu.org/community/ i woudl put thissocial media widgets each in own column [06:32] so do 3 equal columns and put widget inside [06:33] ovidiu-florin: are you sure you want to put into footer Meta menu links to login and register pages ? [06:34] register should not be there [06:36] other things look good. there could be some styles adjustments where images (icons) are not aligned with text properly but you can skip it for now i think [06:36] register disabled [06:36] again [06:37] Login is ok IMO [06:38] ah btw. this banner on homepage could be a bit wider to fit at least 1920px screens [06:38] Good morning. [06:38] ah in fact it is wider [06:38] but it scale to geight [06:38] *height [06:38] good mornign lordievader [06:40] Hey soee [06:51] soee: https://www-new.kubuntu.org/community/ [06:53] IMO: The social-media thing looks a bit disorganized. [06:53] it is [06:53] But that is a minor detail. The rest of the website looks great. [06:54] because they don't provide standardized widgets [06:54] each one has it's own crap [06:54] those pages need to be rdone completely [06:54] but I feel that if we don't launch the site, there won't be enough motivation in the community for those to be redone [06:55] I can make them if someone gives me the content and design [06:55] and the social things.... [06:55] I'd get rid of the feeds, and only add badges [06:57] I think making them all a similar size helps. [06:59] they are supposed to be simmilar size [06:59] I have them encapsulated [07:00] but they run some weird JS that breaks everything [07:00] Yes, you probably need to run your own JS to fix their breakage. [07:00] it's ok if you use only that one [07:01] maybe there's a widget that can integrate them all === sitter_ is now known as sitter [07:24] Riddell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12204024/ is this going to get fixed or do I get to make a list every day for the rest of my life now? [08:01] Riddell, shadeslayer, yofel: review plz http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/frameworks/kactivities.git/commit/?h=kubuntu_unstable_module_rename&id=65ab8ab9db82a68d40917f611c518c923f41d20b [08:21] sitter: hmm, I wonder if the epoch is still hidden in the unstable branches, I'll check [08:23] Riddell: the conflicting versions are from <=19th so I doubt it [08:23] it's an archive problem not a changelog one [08:49] sitter: packages removed [09:13] Riddell: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/wily_unstable_kcontacts/13/parsed_console/ [09:13] \o/ [09:21] sitter: this lintian just doesn't know what it wants! [09:25] Riddell: no your commit is just wrong [09:25] see backlog [09:26] also NMU is ignored by KCI FWIW so status page probably should as well [09:34] Riddell: review plz http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/applications/kdepimlibs.git/commit/?h=kubuntu_stable_bin&id=adc704937b7f77d4a46488c8fcf76f6166f5f5b7 [09:35] Mirv: [09:36] CMake Warning at /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/cmake/Qt5Declarative/Qt5DeclarativeConfig.cmake:100 (find_package): [09:36] Could not find a package configuration file provided by "Qt5Script" [09:38] Riddell: kross-interpreters will apparently fail to backport on account of weird python stuff http://kci.pangea.pub/job/vivid_stable_kross-interpreters/ [09:38] actually probably a cmake bug [09:43] Riddell: did you had time to take a look at kde4libs i think, related to my issue: libstreamanalyzer0 : Depends: libclucene-core1 (>= 2.3.3.4) but it is not installable ? [10:02] sitter: I haven't used Qt Quick 1, but depending on how big component is in question one should anyway find out how to port to Qt 5 proper soon, Qt Quick 1 is already deprecated in Qt 5.5 [10:03] even though off-topic from the CMake problem of course [10:03] lordievader, Riddell ScottK Are you Beta 1 release notes in order. [10:03] All the flavours are now marked ready. [10:03] Mirv: I think it is ported but that is legacy support or something [10:03] * sitter doesn't quite comprehend qtgstreamer [10:03] ok [10:04] flexiondotorg: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/WilyWerewolf/Beta1/Kubuntu Looks okay to me, but Riddell should give the 'OK [10:05] lordievader, Yep. Saw those. Just doing the round and checking with everyone. [10:05] Riddell: I am attempting to stage libindi 1.0 transition here https://launchpad.net/~apachelogger/+archive/ubuntu/stage/+packages [10:05] kstars wants indi1 [10:05] and we could potentially do a fakesync + 2 rebuilds to get it landed [10:30] Riddell: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libkolab/+bug/1489392 [10:30] Launchpad bug 1489392 in libkolab (Ubuntu) "FFE libkolab" [Undecided,New] [10:39] does kubuntu/kde not have a donor/sponsorship prgram? [10:41] http://www.kubuntu.org/donate [10:41] nah [10:41] https://relate.kde.org/ [10:41] donations to KDE have more direct impact [10:42] Ive seen other project with pledge per feature [10:42] and I love the idea [10:43] sometimes people want to direct their money to certain things [10:43] I seem to remember something like that which didn't quite work out as well [10:43] for my KDE Connect is a feature I want to see improved [10:44] clivejo: donate to KDE :P [10:44] I do [10:44] there are all sorts of social problems with purpose driven donations [10:44] I donated to the Randa drive [10:44] which I see you are number 2 on the list :) [10:45] I would usually do it Anonymous [10:45] * sitter forgot to tick box :P [10:46] I did consider it! [10:46] but I seen your name on there! [10:47] world famous because we are mentioned on a website (: [10:47] just hope KDE Connect gets some love and attention :) [10:48] isn't it one of the Rhanda 2015 topics ? [10:48] yup [10:49] soee: yeah it is [10:49] well, so it should get some love :-) [10:50] hope so [10:50] its a great tool for me [10:51] for all of us i think [10:52] but for me priority is rock solid Plasma 5 + rock solid apps like kmail :) [10:52] soee: see thats why I think a pledge for features system would be a good idea [10:52] and somewhere in my dreams i hope this ugly skyp icon will be changed [10:53] but then, there might be very good ideas but not many would support them [10:53] isnt it a Microsoft trademark? [10:53] clivejo: it is [10:54] LOL [10:54] but surely thats for people to decide [10:54] Im sure Canonical think Unity is a "good idea" [10:54] ;D [10:55] but for me, Id pay to get rid of it! [10:55] i don't care, i do not use it and never did [10:56] i think KDE was always my distro (there were experiments with others few years ago, but in teh end ... kde) [10:59] I also think a feedback tool in the Muon Discover would be good idea [10:59] even a donate button there would be nice [11:00] clivejo: sure but first Discover shoudl get some love with its gui/UI/UX [11:01] indeed [11:01] http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/applications/kdepimlibs.git/commit/?h=kubuntu_stable_bin&id=adc704937b7f77d4a46488c8fcf76f6166f5f5b7 seems fine sitter [11:01] its a bit ugly,bless its wee cotton socks! [11:01] i think VDG did some proposals for it [11:01] a GUI only a mother could love [11:02] soee: kde4libs is uploaded and in wily-proposed but it's stuck there due to beta freeze [11:02] kdepimlibs integrating [11:02] flexiondotorg: release notes a good yes [11:03] clivejo: but when you mentioned it ... maybe i find some time to design on paper some new concepts for Discover [11:03] soee: are you going to Randa? [11:03] Discover is a part of Applications or it is separate project ? [11:03] Riddell, Thanks. [11:03] clivejo: nope, this year = no travels for me [11:03] soee: I dont know, I rarely use it [11:03] sitter: libindi, brave man [11:04] on the international no fly list? [11:04] sitter: libkolab is approved by pitti thanks [11:05] eakkk "Oh no! You're suspected of having broken merger_kdepimlibs" [11:05] Riddell: where can i find deb file for amd64 with this updated kde4libs ? [11:06] Riddell: indi looks good if we consider it worth FFeing for [11:06] can do a sync from debian and rebuild the rdeps [11:07] soee: just enable wily-proposed [11:07] sitter Riddell: what did I do? [11:07] sitter: yes please [11:07] clivejo: spookily I got the same message about kdepimlibs [11:07] twas me [11:07] clivejo: but it looks good now http://kci.pangea.pub/job/merger_kdepimlibs/ [11:08] * clivejo wipes sweat off brow [11:10] Riddell: after enabling proposed and trying full-upgrade i have only this error: libstreamanalyzer0 : Depends: libclucene-core1 (>= 2.3.3.4) but it is not installable [11:11] soee: apt-cache rdepends libstreamanalyzer0? [11:11] Riddell: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libindi/+bug/1489411 [11:11] Launchpad bug 1489411 in libindi (Ubuntu) "FFe libindi 1.0 sync from debian unstable" [Undecided,New] [11:11] libkolab almost ready [11:11] soee: confirmed! [11:11] nopt [11:12] nope [11:12] sitter: confirmed! [11:12] Riddell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12205056/ [11:12] Riddell: do we need a separate ticket for sync from debian? [11:12] maybe i shoudl reinstall some package ? [11:13] sitter: not really [11:13] sitter: you can just run /usr/bin/syncpackage I think [11:14] uh [11:14] magic [11:15] well, kolab first [11:17] erkh, E: Unable to locate package kde4libs [11:21] that's the source, you want one of the 20 or so binaries [11:23] oO [11:26] * sitter wonders why libkolab refuses to build against 15.08 kmime -.- [11:30] Riddell: indi transition uploaded [11:30] yay [11:31] Is plasma-netbook ever coming back? If not, I can close as won't fix: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdeplasma-addons/+bug/1066861 [11:31] Launchpad bug 1066861 in kdeplasma-addons (Ubuntu) "Plasma-netbook freezes after clicking on 'Page one' in the panel" [Undecided,Confirmed] [11:46] meh :/ kdelibs5-plugins : Depends: kdelibs5-data (= 4:4.14.8-4~ubuntu1~ubuntu15.04~ppa1) but 4:4.14.11-0ubuntu2 is to be installed [11:50] why it wants old packages http://paste.ubuntu.com/12205174/ ? [11:51] mparillo: it's dead indeed [12:04] Riddell: plz review http://paste.ubuntu.com/12205221/ [12:05] diff to debian master [12:06] sitter: looking good [12:07] Riddell: any idea what is goind on with my deps ? see my link above [12:08] soee: apt remove libstreamanalyzer0 may help [12:08] or apt -f install [12:08] or both [12:10] Riddell: both will fail :) [12:10] oh no wait, -f install might do something [12:11] but with proposed enabled there is thi sproblem it wants to remove: [12:11] akregator amarok amarok-utils apturl-kde baloo-utils k3b k3b-i18n kde-runtime kde-telepathy-declarative kdeconnect kdemultimedia-kio-plugins kdesudo kio-audiocd kmix knotes [12:11] krdc ksnapshot ksystemlog ktorrent kubuntu-desktop language-pack-kde-en libktpcommoninternalsprivate8 libktploggerprivate8 libktpmodelsprivate8 libktpwidgetsprivate8 [12:11] libplasma3 libstreamanalyzer0 libstreams0 libtag-extras1 libtag1c2a okular plasma-scriptengine-javascript python3-pykde4 rsibreak skanlite ubuntu-release-upgrader-qt yakuake [12:11] ugm, sorry for that, should be pastbin [12:23] Riddell: Uploading libkolab_1.0.0-0ubuntu1.dsc: done. [12:24] should get through on its own since it has no rdeps right now I think [12:38] what is it with the articles on how to install plasma 5.4 in Vivid? Surely it can't be for tyhe clickbait factor, right? [12:39] claydoh: which articles? [12:40] Riddell: http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2015/08/install-kde-plasma-plasma-5-4 [12:40] and http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2015/08/plasma-5-4-new-features [12:42] how is it coming ? [12:43] plasma-nm seems to be still broken on wily? [12:46] thats not plasma5.4 though [12:47] kubuntu-ppa/backports only has plasma 5.3.2 [12:49] claydoh: Here is the current status of Plasma 5.4 on wily - http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ppa-status/plasma/build_status_5.4.0_wily.html [12:50] clivejo: I know, but that doesn't stop people from putting out articles that get people all excited and then......nada lol! [12:50] true [12:52] someone should inform the author - https://plus.google.com/+joeysneddon/posts [13:10] "once it lands in the Kubuntu Backports PPA" [13:10] hmm [13:10] I guess the pressure is on to get it there [13:11] trouble is it's blocked in wily by gcc transition, beta freeze and network-manager breakage [13:11] didnt I hear sgclark wont be working on backports for a while? [13:13] quite possibly [13:13] sgclark: you off backports for a while? [13:16] Riddell: any progress on the plasma 5.4 nm issue? === ghostcube_ is now known as ghostcube [13:25] Hiyas all [13:26] hi BluesKaj_ [13:26] hey clivejo [13:27] there other package formats liek rpm etc. is it any eaiser to package them than debs [13:27] or it is the same road [13:43] soee: lol [13:43] spec files are sooooo fucked [13:44] PKGBUILDS are somewhat saner, but forego all the awesome stuff that debs provide [13:44] like symbol files [13:44] also, PKGBUILDS are, afaict, not machine parsable [13:44] o..O [13:45] or well, a bit hard [13:46] bshah: well yeah : source=("http://www.server.tld/${pkgname}-${pkgver}.tar.gz" [13:46] "foo.desktop") < that's a tad bit difficult to parse isn't it [13:46] what about just sourcing pkgbuild and get over with it? [13:47] (I do it in lot of my scripts) [13:47] but yeah if you want to do in another language.. i see your pain [13:47] * shadeslayer ponders how that'd work in Ruby [13:47] yes [13:47] PKGBUILD have no style defined [13:48] well, it's basically bash :P [13:48] on other hand... there is solution to problem [13:48] there is mksrcinfo tool [13:48] which generates SRCINFO file [13:48] it is machine parsable [13:48] mmhm [13:49] bshah: https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/ci-tooling.git/tree/lib/debian < various Debian file parsers [13:49] for instance : http://ix.io/kuG [13:49] bshah: that does look alot saner [13:50] though then you don't have unique fields from what I see :P [13:50] yes.. some fields are not supposed to be unique [13:51] you have to iterate either way [13:51] even if it is put in one field or repeated [13:52] yeah, not a big deal [13:52] I think rpmspecs are the worst though :P [13:52] what arch uses ? [13:53] soee: PKGBUILD's [13:53] PKGBUILD [13:53] and fedora, suse ? [13:53] soee: spec files [13:53] they use rpmspec IIRC [13:53] gosh, this is to complicated for me :) [13:53] you should talk to dvratil about parsing spec files xD [13:54] and how doifferent this snappy packages are from debs etc. ? [13:55] why you want to parse spec files? [13:55] * bshah misses context [13:55] bshah: for scripting purposes [13:55] automated builds and what not [13:56] for eg. updating frameworks would be a single command [13:56] ah [13:56] ( next step would be to make CI do it ) [13:56] basically, eliminate the human factor of introducing errors :P [13:56] I would so so be interested in arch CI [13:56] :P [13:56] get parsable PKGBUILD's first :P [13:57] * shadeslayer is pondering about setting up his own britney [13:58] Actually, I could even rewrite Britney in Ruby [13:58] :p [13:58] and make it better [13:58] with a proper config [14:15] clivejo: no progress on nm as far as I know [14:15] cyphermox: any progress on nm and plasma-workspace? [14:17] I mentioned it in #plasma and sebas suggested adding libnm-qt as a build dep, but I tried a rebuild and its still failing ove nm-core-enum-types.h [14:18] does that file exist? I think it's new and is missing from the nm package [14:19] I wonder does it build on my system [14:19] it's shipped by libnm-dev [14:20] I thought you were alreday working on it clivejo, if not I can look harder now [14:20] cyphermox: Im trying, but no idea what is wrong or how to fix it [14:20] ah [14:21] just add libnm-dev as a build-depends [14:21] cyphermox: it wont build [14:21] any of the packages which currently build-depend on network-manager-dev probably should add libnm-dev [14:21] ok, which package exactly? I'll go look [14:22] Riddell: does this mean anything to you [14:22] clivejo: it looks like you do not have /usr/include/libnm in your include path. NetworkManagerQt (not Plasma NM) from KF5 >= 5.8.0 should have added it automatically to include path. Check if /usr/lib64/cmake/KF5NetworkManagerQt/KF5NetworkManagerQtTargets.cmake contains libnm's include path in INTERFACE_INCLUDE_DIRECTORIES [14:22] ah [14:22] so we probably need to look at NetworkManagerQt directly, not plasma-whatever [14:23] cyphermox: seems like it [14:24] what's the proper name for that package? [14:25] cyphermox: network-manager ? [14:25] not for NetworkManagerQt [15:00] clivejo: are you onto that or should I look too? === ghostcube_ is now known as ghostcube [15:41] ahoneybun: could you take on bug 1483620 ? I just fixed it in wily and you need to take my 4.12.0-0ubuntu4 package and backport that to vivid [15:41] bug 1483620 in Kubuntu PPA "kipi-plugins 4:4.9.0-0ubuntu1 is missing dependencies" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1483620 === rdieter_work is now known as rdieter [16:23] clivejo: cyphermox: looks like it just needs libkf5networkmanager-qt rebuilt and it picks up the (presumably new?) include directory :) [16:24] Riddell: sounds right [16:26] clivejo: I uploaded networkmanager-qt 5.13.0-0ubuntu2, you can click rebuild on plasma-workspace once that's in the archive [16:26] once it's in wily-proposed [16:30] kopete still broken ? [16:30] I'm away tomorrow until sunday evening [16:30] soee: yeah that'll need more work, kdepimlibs repackaged [16:32] Riddell: who to poke about this bug? [16:32] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/muon/+bug/1485212 [16:32] Launchpad bug 1485212 in muon (Ubuntu) ""Configure sources" broken in Muon (Wily)" [Medium,Confirmed] [16:32] should I report it upstream? [16:32] snele: yeah I guess so [16:32] Riddell: Plasma 5.4 also need some deeper work ? [16:33] soee: the nm issue should be solved once my new networkmanager-qt is in so it'll need a few things rebuilt then it can be uploaded [16:43] shadeslayer: so, I won't be in berlin anymore in october, but I've been thinking about getting an LPIC-1 certificate, so I'll most likely come to ubucon anyway [16:46] LPI 1 is dead easy, I was the first person to get one in scotland and I didn't read the syllabus or anything [16:46] although read up on your rpm commands I seem to remember :) [16:47] * Riddell out, not online much until sunday evening/monday [16:47] yeah, I looked at the example questions and I can answer like half of them right away, so it'll be an easy way to get a certificate without much effort [18:07] * ovidiu-florin is sending the email to the sysadmins NOW to release the new site [18:09] can someone please help and write a mockup or even a full article for the new site release? [18:09] I'm still at work :(( [18:44] yippeeee [18:44] plasma-nm built successful [18:44] thanks so much Riddell [18:50] ! [18:51] clivejo: so whole 5.4 should be ready soon ? [18:51] maybe [18:51] Ive restarted the builds [18:52] cool :) [18:52] keep your eye on here - http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ppa-status/plasma/build_status_5.4.0_wily.html [18:52] yofel: hah [18:52] yofel: is it any useful to have one? [18:53] yofel: and got a link to the sample questionaire [18:57] shadeslayer: just google for lpic 1 101 questions and you'll find a bunch of practice sites based on old questions [18:57] well, it tells you people that you actually know how to use linux and didn't just write it on your resumee for fun [18:57] xD [18:57] OTOH, for you it's probably not interesting if your resumee is 80% about linux development :P [18:58] yofel: if a company does not quiz me about stuff that I've written down on my resume, then it speaks volumes about the company as well [18:58] agreed [18:58] if anything, LPIC 2 or 3 are intersting if you're looking for a sysadmin job, 1 is really just basics [18:59] which is why any of us can probably pass that without studying ^^ [18:59] erm, no thanks @ sysadmin :p [19:00] Is LPI supposed to be distro-agnostic? Why do they have rpm commands, I wonder, in the test [19:01] yofel: if plasma 5.4 builds coreectly, is it hard to backport it to vivid? [19:05] genii: because RHEL is a reality, and I think they have some dpkg stuff in there as well [19:05] Hm [19:08] yippeee plasma-workspace built successfully [19:08] looking good! [19:12] Riddell: what happened ? [19:12] 1483620 [19:12] LP 1483620 [19:12] Launchpad bug 1483620 in Kubuntu PPA "kipi-plugins 4:4.9.0-0ubuntu1 is missing dependencies" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1483620 [19:18] why did it get assigned to me? [19:18] I think digikam makes it [19:19] that ^ [19:19] makes? [19:19] kipi-plugins is build by digikam [19:19] yeah [19:19] and you were backportiing digikam, weren't you ;) [19:19] and you backported digikam to vivid [19:19] I did [19:19] so you're in charge now [19:20] so the backport part is mine [19:20] I was just saying that I did not do the wily one [19:20] * ahoneybun fines packages and grabs the SOURCE [19:20] I did the wily one [19:21] but the bug is for the vivid one [19:21] k [19:21] so your build needs moved to vivid-backport [19:22] has it been tested? [19:22] just by ovidiu-florin [19:22] it is just in my own PPA atm [19:22] needs some more testing that, and verification that Riddell's fix is actually in that version [19:22] *testing then [19:23] we dont have any annoucement about Beta1? [19:23] yofel: I never said it had enough :) [19:23] * ahoneybun looks for dsc command that yofel has told me twice [19:24] LOL write it down! [19:24] LOGS! [19:24] ahoneybun: I keep notes cause you told me to!# [19:24] there is also pull-lp-source for the archive (ubuntu-dev-tools), and pull-ppa-source for PPA's (kubuntu-dev-tools) for convenience [19:24] I know I keep forgetting that one! [19:25] dget -xu [19:26] that SSD and -j4 will come in handy now clivejo lol [19:26] * clivejo nods [19:26] will heat your room too :) [19:27] digikam is a beast [19:28] try calligra :) [19:30] clivejo: whya ll have dependency wait and non builds http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ppa-status/plasma/build_status_5.4.0_wily.html ? [19:30] because LP is slow!! [19:30] oh now build [19:31] it can take up to 20mins for the packages that have been built to become available [19:31] in the archive [19:32] plasma-workspace just got published, so Ive restarted khitkeys, plasma-desktop and powerdevil [19:32] but its looking good [19:32] the amd64 build is going faster [19:33] I'm confused it does not like those deps [19:34] dpkg-source: warning: can't parse dependency libkfilemetadata-dev [19:34] libkvkontakte1 [19:34] libmediawiki1 [19:37] ahoneybun: have you your $DEBEMAIL and $DEBFULLNAME set in .bashrc ? [19:38] probley not [19:38] good idea if you are going to work locally [19:39] it caused me problems til yofel explained it [19:40] yippee [19:40] just plasma-desktop to go! [19:40] :D [19:41] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/wily/beta-1/ is loaded [19:41] building is fun .. when all builds fine :D [19:41] soee: indeed it is [19:41] or if you know how to fix the problem [19:41] * yofel considers that boring, where's the challenge? :P [19:42] yofel: do you know what Riddell did to fix libkf5networkmanager-qt ? [19:42] just rebuilt it? [19:42] yep [19:43] with new source? [19:43] against the new NM [19:43] plasma-nm? [19:43] no, against network-manager [19:43] oh [19:44] is network-manager part of ubuntu? [19:44] if you read /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/cmake/KF5NetworkManagerQt/KF5NetworkManagerQtTargets.cmake you will see that it has a list of the include paths [19:44] one path was missing [19:44] the libkf5networkmanager is kubuntu? [19:44] and that file is generated during the build [19:45] I dont think Im explaining myself [19:45] uhm, technically everything is part of ubuntu. But libkf5networkmanager is maintained by us, network-manager by ubuntu (the foundation folks I guess) [19:45] ah thats what I meant [19:46] yofel: have you ubuntu archive access? [19:46] or it just Riddell? [19:46] clivejo: some problem with last pckage ? [19:47] clivejo: I do, for the kubuntu packageset [19:47] upload permissions are managed by packagesets, js is core-dev and can upload almost everything [19:47] *jr === rdieter is now known as rdieter_work [19:51] soee: dont think its anything serious [19:51] something with widgets ? [19:54] so who feels brave? [19:57] i will test, it wants to remove libkdecorations2-5 libkdecorations2private5 libtag1c2a [19:57] but there are newer verion of this to be installed [19:57] hold on [19:57] wiat until plasma-desktop gets published [19:58] it isnt ? [19:58] not yet [19:58] https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/staging-plasma/+packages [19:58] ah not it is [19:58] now [20:00] * soee testing [20:01] soee must have fast connection! [20:01] why ? [20:01] * clivejo is still doing apt-get update [20:01] * clivejo twiddles thumbs [20:02] soee: can you confirm ahoneybun's theme commits? [20:03] ??? [20:03] to plasma 5.4 [20:03] hight contrast theme? [20:05] ok seems like all is installed fine :) [20:05] i will relogin now [20:06] back :) [20:07] * clivejo is jealous [20:07] wow there is new KCM for gamma ;o [20:08] * clivejo is still downloading packages [20:08] 7% [20:08] but System Settings still crashes when exiting Display & Monitor section [20:13] ovidiu-florin: I can write some stuff, but need a bit more detail about what you want, where it will be published, etc. [20:14] valorie: o/ [20:14] clivejo: for me 5.4 looks good [20:14] greets, clivejo [20:14] Something that can go on the website and on our social media [20:14] maybe yofel can move it to wily archive [20:14] soee: stop teasing me!! [20:14] just been reading up [20:14] 67% downloaded [20:14] something to say that we are launching a new and plasma 5 themed website [20:15] clivejo: what speed you have ? [20:15] so for like G+ etc.? [20:15] ovidiu-florin: ^^^ [20:15] supposed to be 8Mb, but only about 2Mb in the evenings [20:16] clivejo: and i have ~ 1MB ... [20:16] Our news feed (website), G+, Facebook, LinkedIn, Twitter, reddit, etc.... [20:16] ~12Mb [20:16] 211kB/s [20:16] at the moment [20:16] ;o [20:17] ok, on the website itself it will be a bit meta, but might inform confused people [20:17] but this is WAY better than BT's superfast Infinity [20:19] Infinity + 9 miles of old copper cable = zero [20:21] soee: what graphics driver are you using? [20:21] clivejo: Nvidia 355 [20:22] uh there was Dolphin update to 15.08 [20:22] when does settings crash for you? [20:23] open System Settings and go to Display & Monitor section [20:23] if i exix from there it crashes [20:23] oh, yeah, but you have to exit or go back? [20:24] if i go back [20:24] ovidiu-florin: https://notes.kde.org/p/NewKubuntuSite [20:34] binding to activity has some issues [20:34] but looks liek works, i can remove now virtual desktops for good :) [20:35] soee: have you wayland working yet? [20:35] i didn't try it [20:36] kubuntu lies to me: 1 package can be upgraded. Run 'apt list --upgradable' to see it. [20:36] but there are none to be upgraded [20:37] soee: do you use Muon Updater? [20:37] terminal [20:37] clivejo: the package that it say is to upgrade: plasma-nm/wily 4:5.4.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu15.10~ppa1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:5.3.95-0ubuntu1] [20:37] * valorie goes outside for a bit [20:37] are you sure you are running 5.4? [20:37] but apt full-upgrade returns: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. [20:38] strange [20:38] clivejo: yes i'm on 5.4 [20:38] try running muon updater see what it says? [20:39] ther eis something wrong with this package [20:39] Muon shows it as marked to be upgrade [20:39] but it can't be [20:39] soee: crashes here as well [20:39] yofel: System Settings ? [20:39] yep [20:40] yofel: can you check this plasma-nm package ? [20:40] yeah, give me a sec [20:41] my version is 4:5.4.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu15.10~ppa1 [20:41] oO [20:42] now let me upgrade to 5.4 [20:43] clivejo: yofel: see http://wstaw.org/m/2015/08/27/snapshot17.png [20:44] soee: you're on vivid? [20:44] clivejo: no, i'm using nodejs repo for vivd only [20:46] soee: what version does dpkg -s plasma-desktop show you? [20:46] clivejo: Version: 4:5.4.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu15.10~ppa1 [20:47] :/ [20:54] clivejo: if i try to reinstall plasma-nm: plasma-nm : Depends: libkf5networkmanagerqt6 (>= 5.13.0-0ubuntu2) but 5.13.0-0ubuntu1 is to be installed [20:55] maybe it is in proposed and i don't have tit enabled [20:56] thats the package Riddell fixed earlier to allow us to build plasma-nm [20:56] yeah, I have proposed enbaled [20:57] but you will get all the 15.07.90 apps [20:57] clivejo: apt-cache policy libkf5networkmanagerqt6 [20:57] what shows for you ? [20:57] my version is from propsed [20:57] ah and problem solved :-) [20:58] there is an older verison in universe [20:58] yup mine: 500 http://pl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ wily/universe amd64 Packages [20:58] thats the one [21:00] clivejo: ok confirmed, i have downloaded new deb manually and installed it https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/wily/amd64/libkf5networkmanagerqt6/5.13.0-0ubuntu2 [21:00] and now plasma-nm has been upgraded [21:00] to 5.4 [21:00] :) [21:01] soee: what font do you use in your terminal? [21:02] i think it is my system font = Droid Sans [21:03] ok so now we are only waitign fr apps 15.08 to be finished :) [21:04] yes, only! [21:05] * soee installing new Vivaldi snapshot [21:05] kopete needs kdepim-dev [21:06] but what created the kdepim-dev package [21:07] where it comes from ? [21:07] yeah [21:07] yofel: ^ [21:10] its in trusty - http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/devel/kdepim-dev [21:10] but maybe its been replaced in KF5 [21:11] ahoneybun: I'll play around with kdenlive (the new version) this weekend, and get back to you with feedback [21:11] sweet [21:12] clivejo: kdepim-dev *came* from kdepim [21:12] but I guess for qt5 the libs were split out [21:13] so surely in the kdepim - 4:15.08.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu15.10~ppa3 log file there should be a package kdepim-dev ? [21:16] no [21:16] that's qt5 kdepim [21:16] kdepim-dev is kde4 kdepim [21:16] kdepim-dev doesn't exist anymore [21:16] so kopete needs it removed from deps? [21:17] no, kopete needs like half the pim stack in kde4 version to work, that's a ton of work [21:17] ;o [21:17] so maybe we'll just drop it for wily [21:17] * clivejo chokes [21:17] lets remove kopete :D [21:18] clivejo: btw. did you subscribe to the kde release ML yet? [21:18] probably not! [21:19] is it on debian or kde? [21:19] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/release-team [21:19] you want the kde one for kde related stuff [21:21] clivejo: relevant thread https://mail.kde.org/pipermail/release-team/2015-August/008865.html [21:21] ok done [21:22] so just wait and see? [21:26] well, that thread has all the information that's there [21:26] theoretically it's possible to package kopete, it's just a lot of work [21:26] "I'm afraid distros will have to figure out the packaging magic to handle that on their own." sounds interesting [21:28] oh, does this mean there is new source available? [21:28] https://mail.kde.org/pipermail/release-team/2015-August/008886.html [21:28] that's just for the mentioned file conflicts [21:28] but yeah, there was a new tarball [21:28] dunno if we updated that actually... [21:29] dont think so [21:29] new upload required? [21:29] kopete is still ppa1 [21:29] we did [21:29] so Im guessing not [21:29] 211cceb073dc68ce2c325625f9547d94f03819acb9f9f30a07721ed46790533f kdepimlibs_15.08.0.orig.tar.xz [21:30] I guess we uploaded that after the tarball update [21:30] oh [21:36] is plasma 5.4 in proposed or release in wily? [21:36] snele: neither [21:36] staging ppa [21:37] snele: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/staging-plasma/ [21:37] clivejo: thanx I am going to test it :) [21:46] hes back! [21:46] i am missing right click submenus in dolphin: create new folder(???), create new text file, compress to archive [21:47] plasma 5.4 beta and now plasma 5.4 final [21:47] can anyone confirm this? [21:47] true... [21:47] wtf i had to go to konsole to mkdir... [21:47] I think dolphin is in apps, is it not? [21:48] actually, "Create new" is there [21:48] but not the compress menu [21:48] that menu is in my dolphin too [21:48] (it's there if click on an empty space without a file selected) [21:48] yofel: yes but there is no create new>folder or text document [21:49] I have that [21:49] snele: what apps version are you on? [21:49] 15.08 [21:49] clivejo: Dolphin 15.08 s in Wily updates [21:49] others not i think [21:49] wily with staging ppa [21:49] just staging plasma? [21:50] or staging apps too? [21:50] plasma 5.4 apps 15.08 [21:51] I didnt think Apps 15.08 was released out of staging yet [21:51] there are problems with PIM and Kopete [21:52] 15.07.90 apps are in proposed [21:52] no, 15.08.0 is in proposed [21:52] kopete will take longer to figure out than we have time to wait [21:52] clivejo: yofel: this is what i got :) http://www.dodaj.rs/f/Q/HN/DWL2Y3A/snapshot9.png [21:52] yofel: did that happen today? [21:53] yesterday [21:53] my dolphin is Version: 4:15.07.90a-0ubuntu1~ubuntu15.10~ppa2 [21:53] :/ [21:53] oO [21:54] what about you soee? [21:54] dolphin: [21:54] Installed: 4:15.08.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu15.10~ppa1 [21:54] 4:15.08.0-0ubuntu1 [21:54] so you guys have create new > folder/text file on right click in dolphin? [21:54] from: 500 http://pl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ wily/universe amd64 Package [21:54] if I click into an empty space the topmost menu entry is Create New [21:55] humm thats odd [21:56] yofel: yes but Create new should have submenu folder or text file. I am missing these submenus [21:56] there is a 4:15.08.0-0ubuntu1 available in universe but Im using 15.07.90 [21:56] *submenu entries [21:56] snele: I have that submenu if no file is selected [21:56] if I select a file Create New is greay [21:56] *grey [21:57] hmmm I have to reinstall wily tommorow. this is mine test partition :) [21:57] no wait, if I select a folder it's there, if I select a broken symlink it's grey and if I select a file the entry isn't there at all [21:58] yofel: so is PIM fixed in 15.08? [21:58] defined fixed [21:58] working! [21:58] kmail works for me [21:58] didn't try something else [21:59] ok lets see [22:00] hmmm if i enable proposed then okular printer-driver-brlaser going to be removed [22:01] dont do it [22:01] for me it alsa wants to remove other packages liek keb, amarok, kubuntu-desktop etc. [22:02] soee: I am already doing it hehe. going to brake it and reinstall it tommorow :D [22:03] ;) [22:04] if i put on my desktop comic widget and try to access it properties it does nothing but creates artifact on my desktop [22:08] eh they could fix the owncliud client to be loaded minimized ... [22:09] i think i reported this bug liek 1,5 years ago [22:17] sorry to bother you with this. I made screenshot to make clear what I am missing [22:17] http://www.dodaj.rs/f/3E/8L/9CWf9Xz/snapshot10.png [22:17] valorie: ovidiu-florin put at the bottom: VDG approved [22:17] do you have this entries in right click menu in dolphin? [22:17] yep [22:18] well [22:18] the file and text ones [22:18] ahoneybun: in wily plasma 5.4 apps 15.08? [22:19] yep [22:19] snele: Id create a screen shot, but it appears to be broken! [22:19] well dolphin is 15.07.80 or sometthing [22:20] ok so my wily install is broken [22:20] i'll try with new user [22:21] anyway i will reinstall tommorow's daily :) [22:21] snele: http://postimg.org/image/a2bs3ekkn/ [22:22] I see clivejo likes my High Contrast colors [22:22] also Oxygen Icons [22:22] ksnapshot isnt opening via the print screen key thou [22:22] clivejo: thanks [22:22] clivejo: it opens here :) [22:22] snele: that is Plasma 5.4 & 15.08 apps [22:23] LOL now its working [22:23] crazy computer! [22:28] clivejo: it is opening [22:28] what is? [22:28] ksnapshot [22:29] after I opened it from kickoff, now its opening from print screen button [22:35] my icons by my clock have got smaller :/ [22:44] and double clicking window title bars doesnt maximise them [22:51] oh dear [22:51] plasma crashed [22:52] havent had that in a while [22:53] :) [22:54] any crashes soee? [22:55] so far no [22:55] but i dont use any proposed or unstable ppa [22:56] just this one staging for plasma [23:01] * ahoneybun should start working on digikam backport again lol [23:02] I need to understand what Riddell did [23:14] our telegram group seems to be under attack [23:16] or maybe not [23:23] under attaack lol [23:25] we should have updated that page a bit before release [23:26] seeing that canoe club pdf means its Riddell lol [23:36] hummm kontact wont send emails [23:36] not impressed with this new release [23:39] Unable to fetch item from backend (collection -1): Unable to retieve item from resource: Did not recieve a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security blocked the repl... [23:40] sounds like dead akonadi to me... [23:46] sounds like bed time to me! [23:46] night all