[00:00] <wxl> Marzius: still in development. expect it for 16.10
[00:00] <Marzius> oh wow
[00:00] <wxl> well there are a lot of changes that need to happen, outside of just changing the libraries we're using
[00:01] <wxl> for example, we need to decide on apps that use qt and not gtk
[00:01] <wxl> not to mention rewriting apps that we have (lubuntu software center) in qt
[00:01] <wxl> we'll probably have it ready in time for 16.04, but i, for one, do not want to include new features in an LTS
[00:01] <Marzius> no worries I was just hyped
[00:01] <wxl> heheh
[00:01] <wxl> well if you're ambitious you can play with it
[00:02] <wxl> the testing wiki includes instructions to use the ppa and there's also a "lubuntu next" iso that is hosted by the boss
[00:02] <Marzius> true, but it's not 64-bit
[00:03] <wxl> well 64 bit cpus can handle a 32 bit kernel :)
[00:03] <Marzius> I need the memory :v
[00:03] <wxl> dude, you're running lubuntu. what do yo uneed it for? compiz? XD
[00:04] <Marzius> some virtualbox instances
[00:04] <wxl> is it not pae?
[00:04] <Marzius> it is, everything is since like 1994
[00:04] <wxl> right so you should be good to go
[03:34] <tsimonq2> How long does it take to do an install of Lubuntu(graphical and alternate respectively)?
[03:35] <tsimonq2> I am going to leave(away), so the answer is not urgent, but if someone could just ping me with an answer, I will read it tomorrow around 8AM Central Time...
[03:35] <pleia2> that's completely dependent upon your hardware and install mechanism (usb or disc), but graphical vs. alternate should make very little difference
[03:35] <tsimonq2> Thanks!
[03:36] <tsimonq2> Well I am still here :P
[03:36] <tsimonq2> Ok thank you pleia2
[03:36] <pleia2> sorry I can't be more specific :)
[03:36] <tsimonq2> Can you be specific if I said it was in a VM?
[03:36] <tsimonq2> With 1 core and 2GB of RAM?
[03:36] <tsimonq2> pleia2:
[03:37] <tsimonq2> Whatever
[03:37] <pleia2> unfortunately I haven't done a lubuntu install lately (the systems I have were upgraded a few times, not fresh installs lately)
[03:37] <tsimonq2> It doesn't matter
[03:37] <tsimonq2> Yeah, I originally installed 14.04.2 on this thing and now I am running wily
[03:38] <tsimonq2> Have a good night
[03:38] <pleia2> you too
[03:38] <tsimonq2>  /away
[03:38] <tsimonq2> dang it
[03:38] <tsimonq2> sorry
[03:38] <tsimonq2> by
[03:38] <tsimonq2> *bye
[06:10] <ianorlin> tsimonq2: actually sometimes in practice alternate takes longer because I fail to press ok at the enter http proxy information
[06:10] <pleia2> ianorlin: haha
[06:11] <ianorlin> It also depends on the speed of the disk you write to
[06:12] <ianorlin> as in I have started an install later on a solid state drive in a virtual machine that ended up finishing earlier than the one I started that I was using a spinning hard drive for the back end
[06:12] <ianorlin> although virtual machines without hardware acceleratoin support tend to peg the cpu to 100 percent and go really slow
[14:28] <tsimonq2> What, do you want me to give you my specs for my new computer and exactly how I am going to run the VMs?
[14:28] <tsimonq2> XD
[14:28] <tsimonq2> ianorlin
[14:31] <holstein> tsimonq2: i was reading the scroll back.. what is the question?
[14:31] <holstein> you are installing 15.10 in vm?
[14:32] <holstein> you are asking, how long does an installation take? i find, depending on resources, anywhere from around 6 minutes to 30
[14:32] <holstein> lots of variables.. even on the host machine, if you are installing as a guest..
[14:54] <tsimonq2> holstein: Not even if I told you that my host machine is going to have the AMD FX-6300 6-core 3.5GHz Socket AM3+ 93W Processor with 8GB of DDR3 1600 RAM? And that my guest machine will each have one core and 2 \GB of RAM?
[15:00] <holstein> tsimonq2: correct.. not even then would anyone really be able to reliably answer the question of how long it wil take you to precisely install.. try it and see
[15:01] <holstein> you may find, depending on load on the host, even with your precise environment, 2 installation times may vary a bit..
[15:01] <holstein> but, you dont *need* to install multiple instances.. to save time, you can clone, copy.. or, use snapshots..
[15:29] <tsimonq2> I want to do ISO QA...
[15:51] <eipi10> can you see where in lightdm-gtk-greeter.conf from http://netgator.blogspot.com/2012/09/change-login-background-in-lubuntu-lxde.html the image is instructed to 'stretch' to fill the monitor?
[15:54] <eipi10> or could I eliminate a background image all together?
[15:55] <holstein> if you want.. or, not have a greeter..or, no x.. or, another desktop environment.. or...
[15:58] <eipi10> well that's it. I was just afraid to erase that line, but that's all I need to do? ...cut the "background=xxx.jpeg" line and save?
[16:02] <eipi10> holstein?
[16:06] <eipi10> anyone familiar with the gtk-greeter.conf file?
[16:10] <holstein> in any case like that, i would just make sure i know how to revert. and make a good backup, and i would research the documents a bit, and just try it
[16:10] <holstein> worst case, i reboot, and the greeter is broken.. then i can forcefully revert
[16:14] <yhj> hey all, have a problem with hibernation in lubuntu 15.04, my laptop hibernates but does not power off.
[16:21] <holstein> yhj: your laptop hibenates? but, when you try to shut the power off, in some way, it doesnt? what happens? and in what conditions?
[16:23] <yhj> when i select hibernate it hibernates but does not power down the laptop afterwards so i have to do it manually. when i reboot it resumes fine
[16:27] <holstein> yhj: i would try hibernate command via terminal, and see if you get any errors.. and, see what is hanging, where, and how..
[16:28] <holstein> when i select "restart" the machine here hangs.. i havent had time to troubleshoot it..
[16:29] <yhj> holstein: tried pm-hibernate in terminal, but it still does not poweroff. It hibernates correctly but doesn't poweroff
[16:30] <yhj> holstein: shutdown and restart work perfectly
[16:30] <holstein> yhj: i understand, and you can look at the error messages,if there are any, and share them in #ubuntu, for example.. or look for a bug report, and create one, if there is none
[16:30] <holstein> !bug
[16:30] <holstein> i havent even tried hibernate, on this hardware, since, there are not benefits for it in my use case..
[16:30] <yhj> ok
[17:24] <Clippng> Hi, I'm trying to install Lubuntu on a 2006 Macbook Pro (white one) and regardless of my HDD size (which is more than enough), it's saying I do not have enough space
[17:24] <Clippng> Any ideas?
[18:01] <wxl> Clippng: partition issue perhaps?
[18:01] <wxl> Clippng: also what IS the HDD size?
[18:01] <Clippng> 500gb
[18:02] <wxl> Clippng: what about the partitions?
[18:03] <Clippng> what about them? sorry, new to gnu/linux
[18:03] <wxl> Clippng: you trying to use the whole hard drive?
[18:03] <Clippng> yes
[18:03] <wxl> Clippng: partitions, btw, are not a linux thing.
[18:04] <wxl> Clippng: what iso are you using?
[18:04] <Clippng> unetbootin
[18:04] <Clippng> of
[18:04] <Clippng> Lubuntu 32 bit
[18:04] <Clippng> 15.04
[18:04] <wxl> Clippng: oh. why don't you download the actual iso and then use unetbootin to write the usb?
[18:05] <Clippng> cant boot from USB
[18:05] <Clippng> disk only atm
[18:05] <wxl> well the use it for disk.
[18:05] <Clippng> i did
[18:05] <wxl> point is download the iso rather than relying on unetbootin to do it for you
[19:50] <Clippng> wxl, If the HDD is NFTS will it not work?
[20:27] <wxl> Clippng: huh, never tried.
[22:06] <teward> wxl: ping
[22:06] <teward> if you're around
[23:51] <M3G45C3PT1L3> I need to run Lubuntu on a VM for a class
[23:51] <wxl> which vm M3G45C3PT1L3 ?
[23:51] <M3G45C3PT1L3> Would 1 GB RAM and 8 GB storage be enough for good performance?
[23:51] <M3G45C3PT1L3> VirtualBox
[23:52] <wxl> oh yeah that's more than enough ram for sure
[23:52] <wxl> for storage, that might be tight depending on what you're doing with it
[23:52] <Unit193> Just don't use a browser.
[23:52] <wxl> but just dynamically allocate and you'll be fine
[23:52] <M3G45C3PT1L3> only standard programs for an OS class
[23:52] <wxl> compiling M3G45C3PT1L3 ?
[23:52] <M3G45C3PT1L3> yes
[23:53] <wxl> Unit193: really? with 1gb? i've done it with 256 before and that's slow. 512 is ok as long as you're not doing facebook and such
[23:53] <M3G45C3PT1L3> so 1 GB is good right?
[23:53] <wxl> yeah i would say it would be fine
[23:53] <M3G45C3PT1L3> my computer has 8, so I thought 1 would be safe enough for a VM
[23:53] <M3G45C3PT1L3> cool
[23:53] <M3G45C3PT1L3> thanks
[23:53] <wxl> np have fun :)
[23:54] <M3G45C3PT1L3> do you have some open source projects I can contribute to?
[23:54] <wxl> how do you want to contribute M3G45C3PT1L3 ?
[23:55] <M3G45C3PT1L3> mostly software
[23:55] <M3G45C3PT1L3> bug fixes and such
[23:55] <wxl> M3G45C3PT1L3: so you want to provide code. in any particular language(s)?
[23:55] <M3G45C3PT1L3> Python
[23:56] <wxl> M3G45C3PT1L3: well there are plenty of packages on launchpad that use python. pastebinit is a nice one.
[23:57] <M3G45C3PT1L3> ok I'll look into those
[23:57] <M3G45C3PT1L3> thanks
[23:57] <wxl> np