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robruoops, I'm tall today15:01
* slangasek waves15:01
robruconehead, even15:01
slangasek#startmeeting15:01
meetingologyMeeting started Thu Aug 27 15:01:41 2015 UTC.  The chair is slangasek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.15:01
meetingologyAvailable commands: action commands idea info link nick15:01
slangasek[TOPIC] Lightning round15:01
=== meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Lightning round
caribou~o~15:01
slangasek$ echo $(shuf -e barry doko bdmurray slangasek caribou infinity sil2100 robru cyphermox pitti tdaitx)15:02
slangasekcyphermox doko barry sil2100 slangasek caribou robru tdaitx bdmurray pitti infinity15:02
cyphermoxwoo!15:02
cyphermox - last week: DebConf15:02
cyphermox - Monday: DebFlu was the worst; getting better15:02
cyphermox - debugging NetworkManager autopkgtests / building (unit tests) on arm6415:02
cyphermox - prepare and upload skiboot/opal-prd 5.1.115:02
cyphermox - some sponsoring for MATE packages15:02
cyphermox - helping identify an issue in dpkg-genchanges' date parsing15:02
cyphermox - looking into ubi-timezone bug 1462688.15:02
cyphermox - more multipath-related SRU work15:02
ubottubug 1462688 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "ubi-timezone failed exit code 1 error when installing UbuntuStudio Wily-15.10 32bit version" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/146268815:02
cyphermox(done)15:02
doko- DebConf last week15:03
doko- python-support removal uploads15:03
doko- some GCC work15:03
doko- starting to merge things15:03
doko- get tdaitx access for openjdk / TCK15:03
doko(done)15:03
barrypy35 transition: aptdaemon, software-properties, ubuntu-drivers-common (i could not fix, so bug reported), LP: #1488175, enum34 (python3-enum34 removed and deps fixing), flufl.bounce, mako, pyflakes15:03
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1488175 in Autopilot "FTBFS on WIly" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/148817515:03
barrycontinue to look at weird python3-funcsigs build-dep from mako (via mock), only on ubuntu.  signs point to outdated dh-python, testing unstable merge now15:03
barryrestarting django 1.8 transition this week15:03
barry--done--15:04
sil2100Argh, me already15:04
sil2100Ok, this will be a quick one:15:04
sil2100- Landing team work, silo coordination, preparing landing e-mails15:04
sil2100- OTA-6:15:04
sil2100  * Preparing language packs through langpack-o-matic15:04
sil2100  * Release notes, image copies, phasing, late re-spins of images, package copies15:04
sil2100  * Release release release15:04
sil2100- Modify phasing script to work with multiple channels15:04
sil2100- Review and sync mate-tweak and caja-extensions per ubuntu-mate dev request15:04
sil2100- appmenu-qt5:15:04
sil2100  * Investigating possible solutions to the shortcuts bug for OTA-715:04
sil2100- RTM Status meetings15:04
sil2100- Various seed changes15:04
sil2100- Ubuntu-PD related work15:04
sil2100(done)15:04
slangasek * short week: DebConf, then Plumbers, then DebFlu15:05
slangasek * discussions at Plumbers around UEFI support, and changes that would allow us to enforce kernel signing by default15:05
slangasek * discussions around the new Ubuntu zSeries support that was announced at LinuxCon15:05
slangasek(done)15:05
caribouBugfix :  - makedumpfile kernel support on trusty - calibre broken bulk edit SRU (LP: #1282898) - lsb upstart blocked SRU (LP: #1273462)15:05
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1282898 in calibre (Ubuntu Trusty) "Broken Edit Metadata in Bulk commits 1.25.0" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/128289815:05
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1273462 in lsb (Ubuntu Trusty) "Users can mistakenly run init.d scripts and cause problems if an equivalent upstart job already exists" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/127346215:05
cariboumerges :15:05
caribou- FFE for rsyslog merge since did not get sponsored15:06
caribou   * Thanks to pitti for help.15:06
caribou Sosreport upstream15:06
caribou - Packaging15:06
pitticaribou: (will sponsor ASAP after your fixes from a hour ago)15:06
caribou15:06
cariboudone15:06
robrulp:cupstream2distro15:06
robru - achieved 100% test coverage15:06
robru - dramatically simplified prepare-silo form15:06
robru - new staleness report job for identifying silos for freeing during crunches15:06
robru - module reorg splitting up massive build.py into smaller submodules15:06
robru - regenerate diffs at start of publication, fixes bug with certain manual packages not having diffs generated15:06
robru - drop a pile of python bilingualisms, cementing python3 as the only supported language15:06
robru - ensure train will never generate changelogs with empty bullet points ever again15:06
robrulp:bileto15:06
robru - overhaul URL handling, making for nicer-looking URLs15:06
robru - redirect back to correct URL after SSO signin15:06
robru - expand requests page with links to jenkins build/publish/clean jobs, deprecating dashboard page15:06
robru - added a number of new API endpoints for searching through different types of requests that require action15:06
robru+1 maintenance:15:06
robru - submitted a few patches for packages failing with BOOST_JOIN, even got a couple accepted in debian15:06
robru - a few other small patches here and there, still lots to learn15:06
robru✓ finito15:06
tdaitx - Learn the hard way how to backport stuff from OpenJDK 8 to 7 and 6, specially when ancestors have been selectively and partially backported15:07
tdaitx- Tried to use mercurial as a git user, not working; read on, got it somewhat right; felt like losing superpowers15:07
tdaitx- Tried to backport TLS 1.2 from JDK7 into 6, failed; a dev said he don't see a point; on hold for now15:07
tdaitx- Enabled TLS 1.2 by default for OpenJDK 7 and TLS 1.1 for OpenJDK 6; previously both used TLS 1.0 as default; LP: #148292415:07
tdaitx- Learned more on the innards of OpenJDK packaging; also read security docs on it15:07
tdaitx- Built new packages for OpenJDK 7 and 6 with the TLS backports15:07
tdaitxNext steps15:07
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1482924 in openjdk-7 (Ubuntu) "Regressions due to USN-2696-1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/148292415:07
tdaitx- Get started with TCK (thanks doko for access!)15:07
tdaitx- Triage/fix OpenJDK bugs15:07
tdaitx- Fix FTBFS for fun and learning15:07
tdaitx- Update OpenJDK 7 to 2.6.1 for fun and learning15:07
tdaitxWaiting/On hold15:07
tdaitx- Figure out whether we have Oracle Contribution Agreement (OCA) or not; Dalibor from Oracle says we don't, doko says we should; need to get it if we don't have it15:07
tdaitx- Submit TLS backports upstream for review as soon as OCA is cleared15:07
tdaitxUpdates15:07
tdaitx- ISP is in a sorry state, trying its hardest to keep me offline (and mad) since yesterday; maintenance is scheduled for the afternoon15:07
tdaitx(done)15:07
bdmurraycreated a set of core files for which the ExecutablePath could not be found to delete from swift15:07
bdmurraysubmitted RT regarding removing core files (old ones too) from swift15:07
bdmurraysubmitted RT to have new dse node added to cassandra_hosts for the error tracker15:07
bdmurraysetup a device blacklist in daisy so we stop accepting crash files from some systems15:07
bdmurraytest and fix an issue with how daisy handles apport not being able to 'find package which ships ExecutablePath'15:07
bdmurraySRU verification (T, V) of apport bug LP: #147057215:08
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1470572 in apport (Ubuntu Vivid) "native-origins.d information causes apport to strip origin information from Package" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147057215:08
bdmurrayreported apport bug LP: #1485773 re new_only15:08
bdmurrayreported apport bug LP: #1487174 regarding sandbox building15:08
bdmurrayreplied to comments in apt lists bug LP: #147190315:08
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1485773 in apport (Ubuntu) "new_only option when writing reports stops some data from being written" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/148577315:08
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1487174 in apport (Ubuntu) "apport-retrace's build sandbox routine carries on if it can't find the package for an ExecutablePath" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/148717415:08
bdmurrayuploaded W and T, V SRU for apport bug LP: #148578715:08
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1471903 in live-build (Ubuntu) "-updates, -security missing from apt lists" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147190315:08
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1485787 in apport (Ubuntu Vivid) "package_hook does not include package version" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/148578715:08
bdmurrayreview/cleanup of bad bug modifier work15:08
bdmurrayresolved pep8 / test failures errors with ubuntu-release-upgrader15:08
bdmurrayubuntu-release-uprader bug triage15:08
bdmurraytested upgrading from Trusty to Utopic (doesn't prompt if lts is set and does warn about EoL release)15:08
bdmurrayupdated EoL release announcement on changelogs.ubuntu.com (typos)15:08
bdmurraysponsored T patch for LP: #135815415:08
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1358154 in bash-completion (Debian) "Bash autocompletion not working for apt command" [Unknown,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/135815415:08
bdmurray✔ done15:08
pittiautopkgtest:15:08
pitti - find out why ppc64el test nodes keep getting killed, fix that, and enable the arch for autopkgtesting15:08
pitti - enable armhf for autopkgtesting too15:08
pitti - enable autopkgtesting for precise: done for i386/amd64, in progress for arm/ppc15:08
pittibritney:15:08
pitti - britney: add linux→ DKMS triggering, to replace the old custom Jenkins jobs; also needs some dkms backporting for autopkgtest helper script (#1489045)15:08
pitti - britney: add machine readable autopkgtest results to YAML output for kernel team consuption15:08
pitti - britney: merge with Debian, port to Python 315:08
pitti - debci: Fix missing results due to swift list batching15:08
pittisystemd: some bug fixes, merge with debian15:08
pittimisc:15:08
pitti - debconf last week15:08
pitti - some remaining pieces of g++-5 transitions15:09
pitti - apport: fix broken StacktraceSource attachments (#1462491)15:09
pitti - langpack-o-matic: Re-fix daily PPA uploads15:09
pittiEOT15:09
barryrobru: \o/15:09
pittiI suppose/hope infinity is asleep15:09
robrubarry: :-D15:10
slangasekbdmurray: device blacklist?  there are rogue devices submitting broken crashes?15:10
slangasekpitti: what's our baseline for precise autopkgtests?  I don't remember this ever having been something we discussed doing, and I would assume the rate of false-positives would be unreasonably high15:11
pittislangasek: almost no precise packages actually have a test15:11
bdmurrayslangasek: yes, we occassionally see systems trying to report crashes that cause an OOPS when writing to the database and whoopsie tries to resubmit them every 2 hours15:12
pittislangasek: this is mostly for kernel triggering DKMS, and some backported ones15:12
slangasekpitti: ah, ok15:12
bdmurrayI haven't found the root cause and its just a couple of systems in the list so far15:12
slangasekbdmurray: wow, alright15:12
pittislangasek: but indeed I expect a fair bit of "always failed" there; but we are looking for "regression", which will still be very useful15:12
slangasekright, I guess the situation would be /better/ than trusty since we don't have the situation of a pre-release baseline + 6 months of SRUs causing bitrot15:14
pittislangasek: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/precise/update_excuses.html FTR15:14
slangasekany other questions on status? (and yes I assume infinity is off resting)15:14
pitti(still fairly new, thus lots of queued items still)15:14
pittiand DKMS package testing itself is fairly heuristic; we can/should iterate on that to refine it15:14
slangasek"lots of queued items" + "almost no packages have tests" == "hrm" :)15:14
pittislangasek: we do have a fair bit of DKMS packages, and apparently firefox/thunderbird backports which declare Testsuite:15:16
slangasekok15:16
pittilet's see how it works out15:16
pittibut CI and kernel teams want to move to this unified "let britney handle it" workflow instead of the custom jobs15:17
* slangasek nods15:18
slangasek[TOPIC] AOB15:19
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slangasekAnything else today?15:19
cyphermoxah, yes15:19
cyphermoxyesterday it was brought up that upgrading from vivid failed, with some modemmanager errors15:19
bdmurraypitti: Could you have a look at bug 1489410? I'm okay with working on it but don't know where to head.15:20
ubottubug 1489410 in Canonical System Image "do not require apt lists to be pre-installed" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/148941015:20
cyphermoxlooks like it's more than just MM, it affects bluetooth too, etc. --> looks like an issue with dbus and/or systemd when upgrading15:20
cyphermoxI was looking for a bug for it, will open one15:20
bdmurraycyphermox: bug 1481798?15:21
ubottubug 1481798 in modemmanager (Ubuntu) "package:modemmanager:1.4.10-1:subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 100" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/148179815:21
pittibdmurray: will do; that's for testing the origin: only, right? as file -> package mapping should only require the dpkg db, nto apt15:21
cyphermoxbdmurray: yup15:21
bdmurraypitti: right, ubuntu-bug wasn't working on the phone for packages from -updates because the lists for -updates weren't there.15:21
cyphermoxbdmurray: I meant "if there was a bug with more info", but this works.15:22
pittibdmurray: hmm, this is a rather poor bug report -- there is no description of an actual bug15:23
* pitti asks there15:23
bdmurraypitti: bug 1471903 has some more details15:23
ubottubug 1471903 in live-build (Ubuntu) "-updates, -security missing from apt lists" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147190315:23
bdmurraycyphermox: the duplicates should have more information15:24
cyphermoxbdmurray: yes, they do15:25
slangasekalrighty, anything else?15:27
slangasek#endmeeting15:29
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meetingologyMeeting ended Thu Aug 27 15:29:36 2015 UTC.15:29
meetingologyMinutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2015/ubuntu-meeting.2015-08-27-15.01.moin.txt15:29
slangasekthanks, all!15:29
pittithanks everyone!15:29
tdaitxthanks!15:29
caribouthanks !15:29
barrythanks!15:29
sil2100o/15:30
bdmurraysil2100: is that a hand raised or a wave goodbye?15:30
sil2100Goodbye hand ;)15:30
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