[00:00] <infinity> flexiondotorg: I'm going somewhere because of this, that's for sure.
[00:00] <infinity> I think we might need to rethink date validation in changelogs. :P
[00:00] <flexiondotorg> infinity, Would it be a warm destination? ;-)
[00:00] <infinity> flexiondotorg: Quite.
[00:00] <flexiondotorg> lol
[00:02] <flexiondotorg> unblock mate-tweak/3.5.2-1
[00:02] <flexiondotorg> unblock caja-extensions/1.10.0-1
[00:05] <infinity> flexiondotorg: Are you expecting people to actually pick up those unblocks as you announce them?
[00:05] <flexiondotorg> infinity, Well I was directing them at Laney but he said that wasn't necessary
[00:05] <flexiondotorg> infinity, unblock mate-tweak/3.5.2-1
[00:06] <flexiondotorg> infinity, unblock caja-extensions/1.10.0-1
[00:06] <infinity> flexiondotorg: Got those two.  Were there others?
[00:07] <flexiondotorg> infinity, I'll check excuses...
[00:07] <infinity> Nah, looks like I have the lot now.
[00:08]  * infinity bumps the caja-extensions/arm64 build so it builds this month.
[00:08] <sil2100> I go to sleep now, good luck guys o/
[00:08] <flexiondotorg> sil2100, Cheers.
[00:09] <flexiondotorg> infinity, That is the unblocks sorted thanks.
[00:09] <flexiondotorg> Yeah, arm64 is holding up the rest right now.
[00:39] <flexiondotorg> infinity, Can you help caja-extensions out on the Wily NEW queue please?
[00:39] <infinity> flexiondotorg: Already done.
[00:39] <flexiondotorg> infinity, You star!
[00:39] <infinity> queuebot is just slow.
[00:39] <infinity> queuebot: Wake up.
[00:41] <flexiondotorg> infinity, Thanks a lot for your help today.
[00:41] <infinity>  dpkg-genchanges -b -mLaunchpad Build Daemon <buildd@lgw01-39.buildd> >../ubuntu-mate-settings_15.10.1_amd64.changes
[00:41] <infinity> dpkg-genchanges: warning:     debian/changelog(l24): assuming long month name 'July'
[00:41] <infinity> LINE:  -- Martin Wimpress <code@flexion.org>  Mon, 20 July 2015 00:03:37 +0100
[00:41] <infinity> dpkg-genchanges: binary-only upload (no source code included)
[00:41] <infinity>  dpkg-source --after-build ubuntu-mate-settings-15.10.1
[00:41] <infinity> flexiondotorg: ^-- There, it built, with anger.
[00:42] <flexiondotorg> Sorry I helped you find a bug that made you do dirty things.
[00:42] <infinity> dpkg-buildpackage: binary-only upload (no source included)
[00:42] <flexiondotorg> infinity, Brilliant. Thanks,
[00:42] <flexiondotorg> I'm going to get some sleep while the arm64 build catch up and I spin some isos in the morning for a final test.
[00:42] <flexiondotorg> infinity, Thanks.
[00:44] <infinity> flexiondotorg: What are you missing on arm64?
[00:44] <infinity> flexiondotorg: I can bump it up.
[00:44] <flexiondotorg> infinity, Sec...
[00:46] <flexiondotorg> infinity, eom and mate-netbook
[00:47] <infinity> flexiondotorg: Both bumped.
[00:47] <flexiondotorg> infinity, I've lost count of how many beers I owe you.
[00:48] <infinity> flexiondotorg: All the beers.
[00:48] <flexiondotorg> infinity, I must sleep. Ctach you tomorrow. Thanks for everything.
[05:41] <Laney> infinity: flexiondotorg is your whip cracker
[07:47]  * flexiondotorg is ready to crack the whip. Everyone seem to be in good shape at this point.
[07:48] <flocculant> flexiondotorg: pretty much so over here ;)
[08:35] <darkxst> flexiondotorg, you've done a great job with the whip! thanks
[08:36] <flexiondotorg> darkxst, Thanks for the kind words.
[08:37] <flexiondotorg> didrocks, Would you be able to update ubuntu-mate-meta again for me?
[08:37] <flexiondotorg> didrocks, A new version of caja-exentions landed last night that adds a new plugins I'd like to ship.
[08:37] <didrocks> flexiondotorg: sure, seed pushed?
[08:38] <flexiondotorg> didrocks, Think so. Just double checking everything is in...
[08:38] <flexiondotorg> didrocks, Yes. all set thanks.
[08:38] <didrocks> updating
[08:40] <darkxst> flexiondotorg, I hope your not planning to spin up new images this late!
[08:45] <flexiondotorg> darkxst, I am :-)
[08:45] <flexiondotorg> But it is fine.
[08:45] <flexiondotorg> I've already tested the new package from PPA builds.
[08:46] <didrocks> flexiondotorg: Added caja-wallpaper to core
[08:46] <didrocks> Added gstreamer1.0-tools to core
[08:47] <darkxst> flexiondotorg, your only making mor work for yourself, I wouldnt re-spin for anything that wasnt a critical installer fail, at this point
[08:47] <flexiondotorg> didrocks, That is correct.
[08:48] <flexiondotorg> darkxst, I have time on my hands today.
[08:48] <didrocks> flexiondotorg: uploaded
[08:48] <darkxst> flexiondotorg, and your testers also ?
[08:48] <flexiondotorg> darkxst, Only the PowerPC stuff needs smoke testing.
[08:50] <flexiondotorg> infinity, Laney unblock ubuntu-mate-meta/1.132
[08:50] <darkxst> flexiondotorg, your nuts unless these actually break installs!
[08:51] <flexiondotorg> darkxst, The build already happened a bit earlier.
[08:54] <darkxst> flexiondotorg, I'll send you a chicken, maybe that will help ;) but I wouldn't be touching anything but super critical install bugs at this point
[08:55] <flexiondotorg> darkxst, And to be clear. Without the new packages that landed last night Ubuntu MATE was extremely unstable.
[08:55] <flexiondotorg> Should be much, much better now.
[08:56] <darkxst> right but unless your blowing the world up, land the fixes after the freeze ligts
[08:56] <darkxst> lifts
[08:57] <darkxst> the milestones are mostly about testing the installer, ISO's and what not
[09:05] <darkxst> flexiondotorg, I only respin for things that affect the installer, anything else, can wait until freeze is lifted IMO
[09:06] <flexiondotorg> darkxst, Well some of the issue were affecting the installed. I had Caja spawn hundred of windows on me during the Live session install. That was reported by another tester too.
[09:06] <flexiondotorg> Hence some of the paackage updates last night and the respin.
[09:06] <Laney> What about this unblock?
[09:07] <flexiondotorg> Laney, I don't need it for a respin.
[09:08] <Laney> The freeze gets lifted when we decide all the images are good
[09:08] <darkxst> flexiondotorg, follow the rules, and wait for the freeze too lift!
[09:09] <flexiondotorg> Laney, OK.
[09:11] <darkxst> flexiondotorg, and while I really appreciate you stepping up and cracking the whip against the flavours, I've also seen you push through lots of stuff during the freeze
[09:14] <flexiondotorg> Well I sorry I've Ive misunderstood the purpose of this process. I have requested changes that have resolved issue that do impact the installer.
[09:15] <flexiondotorg> I admit that some update a to address critical bug in essential components that are not installer specific.
[09:18] <Laney> flexiondotorg: You don't have to make your image look like the archive exactly, because users will get to upgrade after we release (not the case for the final release of course)
[09:18] <darkxst> flexiondotorg, updates can land the minute the freeze lifts
[09:18] <flexiondotorg> Laney, Yeah, I understand that.
[09:19] <flexiondotorg> Some of the update were required to ensure the Live session was stable enough for an install to complete.
[09:19] <Laney> Sure, some updates are fine
[09:19] <Laney> Especially ones like that - so carry on doing those
[09:20] <flexiondotorg> I'll not pay so much attention to behaviour regressions in future pre-releases that do not directly impact the installer.
[09:22] <lordievader> Kubuntu has been marked ready too \o/
[09:22] <flexiondotorg> lordievader, Thanks.
[09:22] <darkxst> flexiondotorg, its not just the installer, but if you have genuine cases where things are breaking ok
[09:23] <lordievader> How is the state of the other images?
[09:23] <darkxst> its the smaller like like meta package updates and what not that probably could have waited
[09:24] <flexiondotorg> lordievader, Last night everyone reported testing was going well.
[09:24] <flexiondotorg> No showstoppers I'm aware of.
[09:24] <flexiondotorg> I've just installed Ubuntu MATE in the Live session on two different machines and the Caja spawning issue are gone. So Ubuntu MATE is in good shape too now.
[09:25] <lordievader> I didn't like finding bug 220961, but I guess/hope no one would use a rootfs <= 4Gb.
[09:26] <darkxst> flexiondotorg, the archives are a shared resource, you kind of need to understand that, maybe mate has a much smaller overlap but still
[09:27] <Laney> I think he gets the message now
[09:30] <darkxst> or I scared him off, which really wasnt the plan
[09:31] <Laney> flexiondotorg: thanks for your help and interest ;-)
[09:31] <flexiondotorg> Laney, darkxst :-)
[09:32] <flexiondotorg> Laney, darkxst I'm just completing the test schedules. UBuntu MATE will be marked ready soon.
[09:32] <flexiondotorg> Laney, Just checking if Lubuntu want to release their PowerPC images.
[09:32] <flexiondotorg> Laney, And following up with Xubuntu.
[09:33] <Laney> Maybe I'll get to be the button presser after all
[09:33] <darkxst> flexiondotorg, you seem to have all the contacts
[09:33] <flocculant> who'll just about pass it later when I see someone else from our release team
[09:33] <flexiondotorg> flocculant, Thanks.
[09:34] <flocculant> had issues with usb boot fails unless I used gnome-disks
[09:34] <flexiondotorg> Laney, I've prepared the release notes/email.
[09:35] <Laney> neat
[09:36]  * darkxst needs dinner
[09:37] <darkxst> flexiondotorg, your doing good dude, just don't be so ambitious about landing stuff through the milestone freezes!
[09:38] <flocculant> flexiondotorg: also seen bug 1361951 again
[09:43] <flexiondotorg> flocculant, I've not hit that. But I'm just about to run the manual partition tests so I'll see if I can reproduce.
[09:59] <flexiondotorg> Wait for it...
[10:00] <flexiondotorg> Laney, that's it. Full house.
[10:00] <flexiondotorg> Laney, everything marked ready and I have confirmation from Lubuntu that ther PowerPC images should not be released.
[10:02] <flexiondotorg> flocculant, I tried to make bug 1361951 happen but it "worked for me".
[10:02] <flocculant> flexiondotorg: yea - I think it's probably one of those sometime things
[10:03] <flocculant> boot from usb failing is another story ...
[10:05] <Laney> flexiondotorg: ok, will look soon
[10:08] <flexiondotorg> Laney, Lubuntu, Xubuntu, Ubuntu MATE and Kubuntu all confirm they have release notes in order.
[10:09] <flexiondotorg> Laney, What about cloud images?
[10:09] <Laney> flexiondotorg: Dunno. Odd_Bloke / utlemming - any news on B1 cloud images?
[10:10]  * flexiondotorg makes notes of new contacts.
[10:13] <Odd_Bloke> Laney: We're currently syncing the image we expect to be beta 1 out to the clouds.
[10:13] <Laney> cool
[10:18] <Laney> flexiondotorg: I'll probably look at this after lunch
[10:19] <flexiondotorg> Laney, OK. But I am unavailable from 13:30 to 15:30.
[10:20] <Laney> NP
[11:51] <flexiondotorg> Laney, all flavours are ready with release notes. I have release announce for Wily Beta 1 all ready to go.
[11:56] <infinity> Laney: I've come down ill, so probably won't be around to handle ISO publishing.  Hopefully, based on flexiondotorg's message above, you can get it out before you need to take off?
[11:56] <infinity> Laney: If not, I'd suggest asking stgraber very nicely to push the button.
[12:14]  * flexiondotorg has errands to run, will be back around 15:30 BST
[12:53] <Laney> infinity: Yeah, no worries, I'm going to start it now
[13:57] <Laney> flexiondotorg: good to go
[14:01]  * Laney drops the freeze
[14:02]  * Laney enables cron, marks milestone as done
[14:18] <flexiondotorg> Laney, I'm back in the room.
[14:19] <Laney> Send ze mail
[14:20] <flexiondotorg> Laney, OK.
[14:20] <Laney> well, maybe check a torrent or two first
[14:20] <flexiondotorg> OK. I'll check...
[14:27] <flexiondotorg> Laney, email sent.
[14:28] <Laney> thanks!
[14:29] <Laney> Someone give me the keys to u-d-a already ;)
[14:31] <flexiondotorg> Laney, my email is awaiting moderation. cjwatson helped with that last time.
[14:33] <Riddell> flexiondotorg: I'm not sure Groot was a warewolf :)
[14:34] <ogra_> warez wolf :)
[14:34] <flexiondotorg> Riddell, Due to the stiffness of Groot's larynx you're not able to hear that he is actually saying "Wily Werewolf" ;-)
[14:35] <cyphermox> robru: still looking for +1 maintenance tasks?
[14:35] <Laney> "fix n-m arm64 tests"
[14:35] <cyphermox> Laney: nah, that's still up to me
[14:36]  * Laney takes cyphermox's delegation badge away
[14:36] <cyphermox> it's more like "figure out a way to make those tests optional on arm64"
[14:36] <Laney> is that a real fix?
[14:36] <ogra_> note that we might have arm64 phones sooner or later
[14:37] <ogra_> (probably sooner)
[14:37] <cyphermox> good enough for me. This is trying to do some stuff with traps/signal which is irrelevant to NM when the rest of the unit tests work
[14:37] <flocculant> flexiondotorg: just so you remember - there are 3 u's in Xubuntu ;)
[14:38] <cyphermox> unless someone wants to spend a whole lot of time trying to understand why it fails there reproducibly, and failed on ppc64el twice and then started working
[14:38] <flexiondotorg> flocculant, Oh bother!
[14:39] <flexiondotorg> flocculant, Sorry.
[14:41] <cjwatson> flexiondotorg: done
[14:42] <flexiondotorg> cjwatson, Thanks you.
[14:42] <flocculant> flexiondotorg: I'm sure you didn't do it deliberately
[14:42] <flexiondotorg> flocculant, I didn't.
[14:55] <robru> cyphermox: yeah but can you email me? I'm super sick, will look at it later
[14:56] <cyphermox> ok, but then I'll look later too. if you're really sick you should focus on sleeping or medicating to make it better
[14:57] <cyphermox> tbh I was sick on Monday, I had one dose of DXM and lots of sleep and it helped a *lot* :)
[14:58]  * Laney has the µdebbug
[14:58] <Laney> (a cold)
[14:58] <cyphermox> Laney: yeah :/
[14:59] <Laney> seems others got it worse
[14:59] <cyphermox> yup
[16:33] <Odd_Bloke> Laney: flexiondotorg: It's my fault for not being clearer earlier, but the way cloud images work is that we sync out and then flick a switch to make them public; so we haven't actually released anything yet. :)
[16:53] <Laney> Odd_Bloke: oh, well, do it!
[16:55] <Odd_Bloke> Laney: Yep, doing it now.  :)
[17:16] <rtg> Can I get http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/b/blcr/blcr_0.8.5-2.1.dsc removed from Wily ? It has not worked since kernel 2.6.13 and is no longer active or maintained upstream.
[19:41] <robru> can I get a NEW review on this packaging? https://code.launchpad.net/~bregma/libertine/package-split/+merge/268946
[21:08] <teward> can an archive admin look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/electrum/+bug/1481033 which was filed long before feature freeze and was never actually looked at?  it's a removal request for the electrum package, in Universe.  Or, if it was looked at, can someone say why it wasn't addressed/handled?
[21:09] <teward> (it was filed on August 3rd)