[00:00] <daftykins> !reisub | putolov
[00:00] <selite> Where does Ubuntu store the print screens by default?
[00:00] <xubuntu666> except that it won't work during a kernel panic.
[00:00] <putolov> xubuntu666, for instance my screen is frozen but coursor moves
[00:00] <Blue1> selite: /Downloads/  iirc
[00:01] <selite> Blue1: it's not in downloads
[00:01] <LtL> selite: ~/Pictures
[00:01] <xubuntu666> putolov, wait. if your caps lock is flashing, your cursor shouldn't move. do you mean that you can turn caps lock on and off, or that it flashes on and off on its own?
[00:01] <selite> LtL: It's not in pictures either I use the Files and it doesn't show.
[00:01] <selite> What a stupid fucking OS.
[00:01] <putolov> xubuntu666, my coursor moves and caps lock flashing
[00:02] <xubuntu666> putolov, CA
[00:02] <putolov> but I cann't work on browser
[00:02] <xubuntu666> putolov, try alt+ctrl+F1
[00:02] <xubuntu666> putolov, do you get a text login?
[00:02] <putolov> no
[00:03] <xubuntu666> putolov, try what daftykins recommended with reisub
[00:03] <putolov> xubuntu666, yes
[00:03] <promet> daftykins, boots to a black screen, then crtl-alt-f1 over to a tty to check out logs and things
[00:04] <putolov> I have got tty
[00:04] <xubuntu666> putolov, you can remember it in a pinch (which is the only time you'll need it!) by remembering the phrase "Raising Elephants Is So Udderly Boring"
[00:04] <gabmus> exit
[00:04] <gabmus> ops
[00:04] <daftykins> promet: do you have working networking at that point? "pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log" if it's non-zero could be handy, also an "lspci | pastebinit"
[00:04] <xubuntu666> putolov, ok, log in, and restart lightdm with command          sudo service lightdm restart
[00:04] <promet> it (Xorg.o.log) seems to be trying to load fglrx and ati modules for video, I think it should maybe be "radeon"
[00:05] <daftykins> promet: mmm that might depend on the card at hand
[00:05] <notionSunday> anyone know how to pause the boot up so i can edit the .bashrc file
[00:05] <xubuntu666> I know it
[00:06] <xubuntu666> I know it's Utterly. I visualize udders.
[00:06] <promet> daftykins, ATI Rage IIc with 2 MB of SGRAM
[00:06] <promet> Smokin... =D
[00:06] <daftykins> promet: i think full ubuntu would be impossible then, i'd retry with xu or lu perhaps
[00:06] <TJ-> notionSunday: edit the file. Log-out. Log-in.
[00:06] <xubuntu666> or dsl
[00:07] <daftykins> xubuntu666: psst we're in an ubuntu channel
[00:07] <daftykins> ;)
[00:07] <putolov> xubuntu666, what is lightdm ?
[00:07] <notionSunday> how do i do that one bootup
[00:07] <notionSunday> i need to stop the boot process first so it doesnt run the .bashrc
[00:08] <xubuntu666> putolov, it's the display manager that gives you your login session and starts x for you. restarting it will kill your previous graphical session and bring you to the login screen without a full reboot
[00:08] <promet> daftykins, just for kicks though, how might I point the X instance to load radeon. I've never quite understood this since xorg.conf.d came around; luckily never had much need.
[00:08] <TJ-> notionSunday: .bashrc is only read when the user logs in
[00:08] <notionSunday> i got it set to auto login
[00:08] <xubuntu666> daftykins, fair enough. does ubuntu package something that is equivalent to dsl?
[00:08] <notionSunday> its for a raspberry pi
[00:08] <promet> if I write an xorg.conf will it default to that?
[00:08] <notionSunday> rasbian
[00:09] <daftykins> xubuntu666: er, i assume you refer to damn small linux which is an alternative distro - why would a distro package a distro?
[00:09] <putolov> xubuntu666, ok, tnx
[00:09] <daftykins> i'm seeing Russian dolls here...
[00:09] <xubuntu666> daftykins, no, I mean you shh me because dsl isn
[00:09] <TJ-> notionSunday: Ahhh, well, Raspian isn't Ubuntu and not supported here
[00:10] <daftykins> promet: er you'd need a minimal config xorg.conf that explicitly only pics a driver - but the fact nomodeset didn't work is kinda telling nothing will
[00:10] <xubuntu666> isn't ubuntu product, but there is no equivalent. I'm not trying to support dsl, but if there's nothing that ubuntu does that is equivalent, there's no reason to ban mentioning it.
[00:10] <promet> daftykins, gotcha
[00:10] <xubuntu666> yes, I meant damn small linux. Puppy Linux would be another that isn't in the same space.
[00:10] <daftykins> xubuntu666: i'm not saying i'm banning mentioning it, just that if someone is in an ubuntu support channel it's likely because that's what they want to run :)
[00:11] <xubuntu666> daftykins, fair enough.
[00:13] <BlueProtoman> I'm trying to get my nVidia GeForce 520M working with the latest drivers on Ubuntu 15.04 (and Optimus, of course), but I'm not sure if I actually did.  How can I check what my graphics hardware and OpenGL version is?
[00:13] <xubuntu666> BlueProtoman, glxinfo
[00:13] <daftykins> BlueProtoman: did you go the nvidia-prime route? nvidia-settings should run also
[00:13] <BlueProtoman> xubuntu666: And what am I looking for?
[00:14] <putolov> xubuntu666, ok, is there some solution to kill browser when my screen is frozen and my coursor works ?
[00:14] <xubuntu666> glxinfo | grep direct                   tells you if you've got direct hardware rendering
[00:14] <BlueProtoman> xubuntu666: Does it display info for multiple OpenGL versions?
[00:15] <xubuntu666> putolov, you can kill an x-window from the terminal a few ways, or alt+F2 and run  xkill   then click on window to kill
[00:15] <OerHeks> sudo ubuntu-drivers devices
[00:16] <xubuntu666> BlueProtoman, yes, as well as available extensions
[00:16] <BlueProtoman> xubuntu666: Oh, I see, for core profile, compatibility profile, etc.?
[00:16] <putolov> xubuntu666, Terminal I opent with Ctrl+Alt+T
[00:16] <BlueProtoman> xubuntu666: Looks like my core profile supports OpenGL 3.3...but I'm still using the nVidia.
[00:18] <BlueProtoman> xubuntu666: *still using the Intel, derp
[00:18] <xubuntu666> putolov, do you? I don't know your hotkeys, sorry. I'm not using unity. from terminal you can kill using pid or kill all processes of a certain name.
[00:19] <putolov> xubuntu666, how does it work with pid or to kill process of a certain name ?
[00:19] <xubuntu666> BlueProtoman, oh you have an APU? a newer intel processor?
[00:19] <daftykins> xubuntu666: no, optimus - intel on-die + nvidia discrete chip
[00:20] <daftykins> BlueProtoman: as i mentioned initially, did you install nvidia-prime or bumblebee? does nvidia-settings run?
[00:20] <BlueProtoman> xubuntu666: I have a Intel HD Graphics 5000 and a nVidia GeForce 520M, and an Optimus to let me switch between them
[00:20] <xubuntu666> putolov, well, you can get the pid using "top" "ps" or "pidof" commands. then   kill -[1-9] <PID> where the 1 to 9 is a choice of signal to send, and the <PID> is replaced with the pid number
[00:20] <BlueProtoman> daftykins: Yes, I have them both.  But "primusrun glxinfo" returns "primus: fatal: Bumblebee daemon reported: error: Could not load GPU driver"
[00:21] <daftykins> BlueProtoman: no you can't use them both. nvidia-prime is what should be used *instead* of bumblebee
[00:21] <xubuntu666> putolov, in a terminal, you can get the manual for commands with the "man" commaqn
[00:21] <xubuntu666> putolov, "man" command. e.g.     man ps
[00:21] <putolov> xubuntu666, tnx very much
[00:22] <BlueProtoman> daftykins: Okay, I'll uninstall bumblebee and get back to you on that.
[00:22] <daftykins> BlueProtoman: cool. sudo apt-get purge bumble*
[00:23] <BlueProtoman> daftykins: Cool.  Then what, try "primus glxinfo"?
[00:25] <BlueProtoman> daftykins: What do I do next?
[00:29] <daftykins> BlueProtoman: "dpkg -l | grep nvidia" and "pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[00:29] <daftykins> er the former should be pastebin'd as well, but apparently i don't have my head screwed on today
[00:30] <daftykins> could just do "dpkg -l | grep nvidia | pastebinit"
[00:31] <finetundra__> hello everyone, I'm trying to make a bootable usb, however my web browser crashes when attempting to download. Normally I'd use unetbootin but my computer seems to be refusing to boot a usb made with that
[00:31] <finetundra__> *download uuo
[00:31] <finetundra__> *uui
[00:34] <BlueProtoman> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12203028/ for the first command, http://paste.ubuntu.com/12203029/ for the second
[00:36] <daftykins> BlueProtoman: hrmm xorg-edgers and nvidia-355, there's actually an official PPA for ubuntu for updated drivers now. 355 is a waste for such an old mobile chip though
[00:36] <daftykins> Xorg's log there shows no sign of your nvidia being used or configured
[00:36] <daftykins> !info nvidia-prime
[00:37] <daftykins> hmm
[00:37] <daftykins> back in 10
[00:38] <Fyxi> Hello, how to set virtual desktops under multiple monitors in latest xubuntu?
[00:39] <Fyxi> I heard that its possible. On windows 10 its possible, so... War started.
[00:42] <daftykins> Fyxi: go to settings
[00:42] <daftykins> i believe you want workspaces
[00:43] <BlueProtoman> daftykins: Is this the PPA you mean?  https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[00:43] <designbybeck> Still no Official Supported Google Drive for Ubuntu/Linux?
[00:43] <daftykins> ask Google
[00:45] <Fyxi> Yea, workspaces
[00:45] <tgm4883> designbybeck: they really need to get on it. It was supposed to be out long ago
[00:45] <Fyxi> But I heard that its not working under multiple monitors, it's that true?
[00:45] <Techspectre> Can you damage an NTFS file system by reading it from Linux?
[00:45] <Fyxi> daftykins
[00:45] <tgm4883> designbybeck: and technically, you mean no google supported google drive for linux. There are other supported google drive clients
[00:46] <daftykins> BlueProtoman: looks like the one - you'll need to purge _all_ nvidia* and remove xorg-edgers first though
[00:46] <designbybeck> correct tgm4883
[00:46] <daftykins> BlueProtoman: oh you're still on 12.04 - wow.
[00:46] <tgm4883> designbybeck: well yea, only google can make a google supported one
[00:46] <BlueProtoman> daftykins: What?  No.  I'm on 15.04
[00:46] <daftykins> BlueProtoman: nevermind, misread
[00:47] <nrdb> I have an old server I am trying to connect to with the nomachine NX server ... but it is giving the error "Cannot find X servers running on this machine" ... I can login via ubuntu gui .... how would I double check that X is running?
[00:47] <daftykins> nrdb: if iy really was a server it won't have X
[00:48] <BlueProtoman> daftykins: Okay, purged nvidia*, but what is this "xorg-edgers" and how do I remove it?
[00:48] <nrdb> daftykins, it is a LTSP server.. so yes it should
[00:50] <daftykins> BlueProtoman: the PPA you're getting drivers from already, visit their site for removal
[00:50] <BlueProtoman> daftykins: You mean *not* https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa ?
[00:51] <daftykins> xorg-edgers is the one you ALREADY have on
[00:51] <daftykins> which needs to go
[00:53] <BlueProtoman> daftykins: Okay.  Just ran "sudo ppa-purge ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa"
[00:54] <daftykins> reboot
[00:54] <BlueProtoman> daftykins: And then what, reinstall the nvidia drivers?
[00:55] <daftykins> then install nvidia-355 nvidia-prime nvidia-settings
[00:56] <BlueProtoman> Okay.  Will do, then let you know how it goes.  Thanks!
[00:56] <jmr_> help Brazil
[00:56] <daftykins> !br
[01:00] <BlueProtoman> daftykins: All righty, just rebooted and installed those packages.
[01:00] <daftykins> and reboot again and pastebin a fresh Xorg.0.log
[01:00] <daftykins> wouldn't mind seeing an "lspci | pastebinit" too
[01:01] <BlueProtoman> Sure http://paste.ubuntu.com/12203129/
[01:01] <BlueProtoman> I'll give you another once I reboot
[01:09] <ablest1980> anyone know how to use gadmin openvpn?
[01:09] <ablest1980> says Missing certificate or key setting.
[01:09] <daftykins> do you have a VPN service to connect to yet?
[01:12] <ablest1980> yes
[01:12] <daftykins> from where?
[01:12] <ablest1980> openpvn
[01:12] <ablest1980> openvpn
[01:13] <daftykins> but they don't offer anything direct
[01:14] <ablest1980> idk
[01:14] <BlueProtoman> daftykins: Oops, I broke my graphics and have to fix everything by console.  Now what?
[01:15] <daftykins> ablest1980: do you have any other system than the one you're typing from? a VPS? a server co-located?
[01:15] <ablest1980> daftykins, http://paste.ubuntu.com/12203146/
[01:15] <ablest1980> no
[01:15] <daftykins> ablest1980: yes that's configuring a client, but you need the service to connect to at the other end...
[01:15] <daftykins> BlueProtoman: so X never started but you've got TTYs huh?
[01:15] <ablest1980> i got open vpn
[01:16] <daftykins> ablest1980: as much as i enjoy going around in these circles, i suspect i will leave it there for now. unless you got connection details from the site when logged in, you can't go any further.
[01:17] <ablest1980> ok
[01:17] <BlueProtoman> daftykins: Bingo
[01:17] <TJ-> ablest1980: Do you know that to use openvpn you need *TWO* PCs, your local PC and some other PC somewhere else?
[01:19] <ablest1980> no
[01:20] <lijunxinyuai> #deepin
[01:21] <TJ-> ablest1980: To create a Virtual Private Network (VPN) you'll need 2 PCs, one might be a hosted service somewhere on the Internet that sells you a VPN connection service.  When you buy that service they will provide an openvpn configuration file for you to use on your local PC, and *then* you will be able to use it
[01:21] <Didge-> What was that !term used to find the ubuntu touch chat room folks?
[01:21] <daftykins> BlueProtoman: try pastebin'ing /var/log/Xorg.0.log now - then might have to be "sudo apt-get purge nvidia* "
[01:22] <daftykins> Didge-: better yet is remembering #ubuntu-touch
[01:22] <Didge-> HAHA cheers pal, I'm such a douche mate, sorry and thanks :)
[01:24] <ablest1980> ok ty
[01:26] <ryan_46> !info hal
[01:26] <Fyxi> daftykins: i cant add more than 1 workspace, its possible under windows10, lol
[01:26] <Fyxi> and i always was under linux site...
[01:26] <Fyxi> side*
[01:27] <daftykins> Fyxi: are you going to make me google it for you?
[01:27] <Fyxi> i googled and its says its not possible, there are several ppl that its possible
[01:27] <blitz31> Hi
[01:28] <Fyxi> ya, linux ppl laughed that i said that windows10 have better workspaces support under multiple monitors and get hated, because it's possible under linux but nobody knows how
[01:28] <Fyxi> WAT
[01:28] <marjory> hi
[01:28] <TJ-> Fyxi: is that using Unity?
[01:28] <Fyxi> XFCE
[01:28] <Fyxi> ubuntu xfce
[01:29] <Fyxi> xubuntu
[01:29] <daftykins> no xfce definitely has workspaces.
[01:29] <Guest70960> hello
[01:29] <daftykins> hi
[01:29] <Fyxi> i mean
[01:29] <Guest70960> what is going on here?
[01:29] <Fyxi> i have two monitors
[01:29] <Fyxi> and want to have workspaces under these
[01:29] <blitz31> spanich?
[01:29] <blitz31> spanish?
[01:29] <RevertToType> so on ubuntu-server 15.04 what do i need to run say a script or command at login?
[01:29] <TJ-> Fyxi: define what you mean by "under" ?
[01:30] <Fyxi> it doesnt matter if one monitor will have workspaces and second will have other, or one workspace will use two monitors
[01:30] <TJ-> Fyxi: you have the monitors using a single X screen (single desktop across both) ?
[01:31] <Fyxi> TJ-: i dont get it ;_; probably not
[01:31] <Fyxi> or... ef i dont know
[01:31] <daftykins> Guest70960: as the topic states, this is an Ubuntu support channel, for support.
[01:32] <Fyxi> i have extended desktop to two monitors, so i can have things on first, and other things on second
[01:32] <TJ-> Fyxi: with multiple monitors, the X server can do 1 of 2 things. Use both monitors on a single X screen so the desktop covers both monitors (as in windows), or have each monitor on a separate X screen, in which case there are two separate desktops and you cannot move applications from 1 to the other
[01:33] <Fyxi> i want first case
[01:33] <BlueProtoman> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12203204
[01:34] <Fyxi> but, im not really familar with terminal and used last two months windows so i forgot most
[01:34] <daftykins> BlueProtoman: hrmm this laptop of yours, does it have any BIOS controls over the optimus configuration?
[01:34] <Fyxi> i just know few commands, to install packages or compile something
[01:34] <TJ-> Fyxi: which should be what is configured by default when you connect the 2nd monitor. So now if you add workspaces, each workspace will include both monitors (because as far as the X server is concerned, there's just 1 very large display)
[01:34] <BlueProtoman> daftykins: No.
[01:35] <daftykins> BlueProtoman: alright, i suspect the repo i suggested does not have drivers supporting prime then :( did you purge nvidia* yet?
[01:35] <Fyxi> TJ-: when i change number of workspaces under settings, it doesn't add item to list
[01:35] <Fyxi> just i still have only one workspace
[01:35] <Fyxi> i can post screenshot
[01:35] <Saulo> (away) not here.
[01:36] <TJ-> Fyxi: OK, what you say makes sense... it is either silently failing to create the workspaces, or not listing them
[01:37] <Fyxi> TJ-: http://i.imgur.com/1zSrXhY.png
[01:37] <Fyxi> I tried to that before.
[01:38] <BlueProtoman> daftykins: 355 is the beta driver, right?  Maybe I should just use 352?
[01:39] <daftykins> BlueProtoman: you're welcome to try something else, i'd purge - remove the PPA then try the default repos 346.
[01:40] <BlueProtoman> daftykins: I want a newer driver than that, though
[01:40] <BlueProtoman> I'll try 352 and report back
[01:40] <daftykins> BlueProtoman: i already mentioned it's a huge waste of time
[01:40] <daftykins> do you have any idea how old that chip is? :)
[01:41] <Fyxi> TJ-: I go sleep, probably will read logs later. If I will dont remember your msg's i will write to you privately. Good night.
[01:41] <TJ-> Fyxi: although the list only shows 1 entry, do the workspace hot-keys move to another workspace? From what I've read the hot-key is Ctrl+F1 through Ctrl+F4
[01:41] <Fyxi> If I will lost your msg's* I mean
[01:41] <Fyxi> TJ-: Nope.
[01:41] <BlueProtoman> daftykins: No, I do not.  And the site still lists my chip as supported, by the way
[01:42] <Fyxi> Ok, good night, i can read logs, bye
[01:42] <daftykins> BlueProtoman: it's old, chasing driver versions is fruitless.
[01:42] <Fyxi> I will sleep about 2-5 hours
[01:42] <BlueProtoman> daftykins: Why is it fruitless?
[01:42] <daftykins> because such an old chip will not have any worthwhile improvements
[01:43] <daftykins> versions are iterated to add support and tweak newer hardware, they're not going to miraculously triple the framerates on an old product
[01:44] <BlueProtoman> daftykins: Just let me try 346 on this new PPA first.  If that fails, I'll rever
[01:44] <BlueProtoman> *revert
[01:45] <daftykins> but 346 might be coming from the wrong place
[01:46] <BlueProtoman> daftykins: Ok, so what's the PPA for the default driver source again?
[01:46] <daftykins> you don't need one
[01:46] <daftykins> just remove what was added before
[01:47] <BlueProtoman> But I did a ppa purge as the PPA's site suggested
[01:47] <daftykins> ok hang on you've lost me
[01:47] <daftykins> where are we? 1) default 2) xorg-edgers PPA 3) ubuntu-drivers PPA
[01:48] <BlueProtoman> I purged 2) so I could install from 3), as the site for 2) suggested
[01:49] <BlueProtoman> Via sudo ppa-purge
[01:50] <daftykins> right so you have 3) on and you want to...?
[01:50] <TJ-> Fyxi: according to a post in the Mint forums, the issue is caused when you have Compiz (3D effects) enabled. In that case you have to use the Compiz Config Settings Manager and change the desktop numbers there for workspaces to function. See  http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=57&t=191883
[01:50] <BlueProtoman> daftykins: Either install the latest drivers in 3) and have them work or revert to 2) safely
[01:52] <daftykins> yeah so you can do the first idea now
[01:52] <BlueProtoman> What's the PPA's exact name again?
[01:53] <daftykins> but you already have it installed
[01:53] <daftykins> https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa?field.series_filter=vivid
[01:53] <daftykins> ooooh
[01:53] <daftykins> "apt-cache search nvidia-3" might list the available
[01:54] <vivid> im pretty sure that ppa uses the exact copied packages from xorg-edgers btw
[01:55] <EphraimMB> How do I start contributing by developing and improving Ubuntu on Windows 10?
[01:55] <daftykins> EphraimMB: you mean to want to contribute whilst not using it?
[01:55] <daftykins> !contribute
[01:56] <daftykins> vivid: right now perhaps, but it'll change.
[01:56] <daftykins> what a curious nickname for an ubuntu channel.
[01:58] <vivid> i know right, i have more ignores in this channel than in all of the world of irc
[01:58] <BlueProtoman> Okay, now what?
[01:58] <EphraimMB> How do I do this on Windows?
[01:59] <BlueProtoman> I have no idea what I'm doing
[01:59] <Yuken> Workrave doens't seem to be proper for my uses of setting a reminder every hour. Any other programs I could use?
[01:59] <xangua> !contribute | EphraimMB
[01:59] <daftykins> EphraimMB: those are links, click them.
[02:00] <daftykins> BlueProtoman: actually that PPA lacks something, i'd say purge nvidia* and reboot.
[02:01] <BlueProtoman> daftykins: Then what?
[02:01] <daftykins> remove 3)
[02:02] <Nikesh> Is there any reason why I shouldn't install an Ubuntu-only system as 'Legacy'? I'm getting so many errors trying to get it to install + boot in UEFI
[02:02] <daftykins> Nikesh: is it to be the only OS, or will it be alongside Windows?
[02:02] <BlueProtoman> Okay, I have working graphics now, but am no closer to a working Optimus than when I started
[02:03] <Ben64> Nikesh: if you want to dual boot with something installed using uefi
[02:03] <daftykins> BlueProtoman: i've noticed. so remove 3) then install "nvidia-346 nvidia-prime nvidia-settings" and try again.
[02:05] <BlueProtoman> daftykins: And what exactly do you mean by "try again"?
[02:07] <EphraimMB> The links you gave me only tells me how to do this on Ubuntu. I want to know how to do this on Windows.
[02:07] <Nikesh> daftykins: I only ever want Ubuntu
[02:08] <daftykins> Nikesh: i can't see any issues with booting and installing as EFI then? what goes wrong?
[02:08] <TJ-> EphraimMB: your request makes no sense; what contribution can you make if you don't use Ubuntu?
[02:08] <Fyxi> TJ-: i have compiz, so that can be problem, i was thinking about that before
[02:08] <Fyxi> thanks
[02:08] <userme> hello. im having few slow loading pages and just read bout flushing dns servers what this and how on linux
[02:08] <daftykins> BlueProtoman: rebooting *facepalm*
[02:09] <Nikesh> daftykins: I keep getting 'No Bootable Device' after install
[02:09] <daftykins> Nikesh: what kind of system is this?
[02:09] <Nikesh> daftykins: I've tried Boot-Repair
[02:09] <Nikesh> daftykins: What details can I share?
[02:09] <Fyxi> how the compiz workspace settings is named?
[02:09] <daftykins> desktop/laptop - make/model
[02:09] <BlueProtoman> daftykins: Aaand my graphics are broken again
[02:10] <daftykins> Fyxi: i don't think you can use compiz with xfce? might be wrong.
[02:10] <Nikesh> daftykins: Laptop with Intel 2.16ghz quad core, 128gb ssd, 8gb ram
[02:10] <TJ-> Fyxi: in that forum post the user called them "Displays"
[02:10] <Ben64> Nikesh: if all you want is ubuntu go ahead and install legacy, its simpler
[02:10] <TJ-> daftykins: Yes, you can
[02:10] <daftykins> ah ok :>
[02:10] <daftykins> BlueProtoman: weird, usually all setups i've seen work fine with this, ah well i give up.
[02:10] <Nikesh> Ben64: Can I still install other version of Ubuntu, or will it only ever be one Ubuntu?
[02:12] <rex_> vhosts /Cloaks
[02:12] <maki> Hello! May I ask is the ssh (server) required on a desktop system?
[02:12] <Fyxi> ok, i set multiple monitors, but its still dont works
[02:12] <msodrew> Hi. I have Ubuntu 14.04 installed with an Nvidia GTX 970. I use the proprietary graphics drivers. As a software engineer, I really want to love ubuntu (I've been a Mac OS X devotee for 10 years), but the X window system crashes randomly once every 3-4 hours. Sometimes dbus brings it down, sometimes I suspect it is compiz (though, I have zero "effects" turned on)... in general though, it is unreliable to code on. Has anyone else experienced t
[02:12] <msodrew> and know how to run ubuntu with the stability linux is known for?
[02:12] <Fyxi> i have at xfce panel widget four workspaces, but clicking them nothing changes
[02:13] <somsip> maki: no it's not
[02:13] <Fyxi> TJ-
[02:13] <maki> Thanx!
[02:14] <TJ-> Fyxi: I'm not sure why that would be, sorry. Maybe you have to switch using hotkeys for the Compiz 'displays' ?
[02:15] <Fyxi> where is workspace hotkeys under compiz settings
[02:16] <Fyxi> i want to know how to change workspace...
[02:17] <daftykins> just adding the workspace switcher to the panel will work
[02:18] <Nikesh> msodrew: It's usually stable for me. I'm a software engineer, too. But presently struggling with a new machine (also graphics drivers and boot issues..)
[02:19] <msodrew> Nikesh: does X server bring down the whole system for you too? that's pretty much my only quip
[02:20] <msodrew> ill be running Atom, gnome-terminal, Zeal, and Chrome and it'll randomly happen after a few hours
[02:20] <daftykins> Nikesh: so what's the make + model?
[02:20] <Nikesh> msodrew: Hm, no. The issue for me is that it seems like my CPU is doing what the graphics card should (seeing heavy loads when nothing but X is running)
[02:20] <Nikesh> daftykins: It's an Acer Aspire E11-111
[02:21] <TJ-> msodrew: Linux generally excels at logging clues. For X see "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" and possibly "/var/log/kern.log" (or if using systemd, use "journalctl" )
[02:21] <msodrew> Nikesh: mmm. what kind of GPU you have?
[02:21] <daftykins> Nikesh: hrmm, latest BIOS as per their website? sometimes there's a Linux variant for acers, or just an update if EFI boot is going weirdly.
[02:21] <Nikesh> msodrew: Not sure actually. Just the stock laptop one.. nothing special I'm sure (maybe that's why -- but I hope rather that I can find some different drivers and it will work better)
[02:22] <msodrew> TJ-: thanks. I wasn't aware of /var/log/kern.log ... ill look into that. Is systemd something I can run to get more logging?
[02:22] <Nikesh> daftykins: Hm.. I had it working on 14.04 after using Boot-Repair, but it seemed magical (can't remember what changed) -- I wanted to reinstall though for other reasons
[02:22] <Fyxi> TJ-: thanks
[02:22] <Fyxi> its works like harm
[02:22] <msodrew> Nikesh: that is, I've found, one of the most essential things to find out. If you're running windows you should be able to inspect your hardware and see if it's AMD or Nvidia
[02:22] <Fyxi> one things i would have is to show desktops and windows like windows OS had
[02:23] <Fyxi> seperate desktops with sepeare windows
[02:23] <Nikesh> msodrew: No windows around.. But I think I can find it Linux, too
[02:23] <TJ-> msodrew: systemd is the new init system in 15.04+. Up to then the init system is upstart. systemd takes over a lot of core services, including generating binary (not text) logs, and to view those "journalctl" is required
[02:23] <msodrew> Nikesh: generally, the state of things is that AMD proprietary drivers are absolute garbage and not updated enough, so you gotta use the open source ones  mantained by xorg
[02:23] <daftykins> msodrew: you don't need to use Windows to detect the hardware...
[02:23] <Nikesh> msodrew: Ah yeah, that's my feeling. So I wonder what's being used
[02:23] <daftykins> Nikesh: so any luck on the acer website?
[02:23] <msodrew> Nikesh: nividia is better, but ive found that since im running a  (reasonably) new and high powered card, I have to use the xorg-edgers special PPA that supports it
[02:25] <msodrew> Nikesh: open a terminal and type "sudo lspci | grep VGA" and tell us what it says
[02:25] <msodrew> daftykins: I was only saying that in case he was talking to us from a booted windows partition
[02:25] <daftykins> why are you folks talking about graphics hardware anyway, when the query is EFI installation?
[02:25] <Nikesh> daftykins: Not yet
[02:25] <daftykins> when did graphics issues come up?
[02:26] <Nikesh> daftykins: msodrew was talking about it, and I was also facing that, but first I just want to boot! :P
[02:26] <msodrew> daftykins: that's my issue... Nikesh just chimed in and wanted to talk about it too
[02:26] <daftykins> ah ok.
[02:28] <msodrew> TJ-: so should I forget about systemd if im running 14.04.3 deliberately for stability?
[02:28] <Nikesh> daftykins: OK, so I'm in a live USB and Boot-Repair says "Boot of PC is in EFI mode, but no EFI partition found" Recommends creating one..
[02:29] <Nikesh> daftykins: In gparted I see /dev/sda1 bios_grub and /dev/sda2 as ext4 and /dev/sda3 (unknown.. somehow an aborted swap partition it seems)
[02:29] <EphraimMB> Why does the Ubuntu UI look so outdated?
[02:29] <daftykins> Nikesh: i'd rather start with the BIOS options if you wouldn't mind just glancing if there is one
[02:29] <TJ-> msodrew: Yes, 14.04 has upstart and all text logs in /var/log/
[02:29] <Nikesh> daftykins: Sure, what do you mean though?
[02:29] <daftykins> are you sure it's not an E3-111 ?
[02:30] <daftykins> http://us.acer.com/ac/en/US/content/series/aspire-e11
[02:30] <daftykins> that page has confusing model numbers
[02:30] <Nikesh> The bottom says es1-111 --> http://us.acer.com/ac/en/US/content/model/NX.MSNAA.003
[02:30] <daftykins> oh dear 8.1 with Bing
[02:30] <msodrew> TJ-: for sure... I'll take a stronger look tomorrow at the office. I just get into the mode of "Im trying to work! Not look at logs! ... I'll solve this later." and then about 2 hours later X will completely throw me out to the login screen again lol :'(
[02:30] <daftykins> Nikesh: is that what it came with?
[02:30] <EphraimMB> Why does the Ubuntu UI Desktop look so outdated?
[02:30] <Nikesh> daftykins: Hehe yeah. That's gone. I have a new SSD in it
[02:31] <msodrew> Windows 8.1 is the ultimate sadness.
[02:31] <Nikesh> Plus upgraded RAM to 8GB
[02:31] <tsimonq2> msodrew: No, Windows 10 is...
[02:31] <tsimonq2> :P
[02:31] <daftykins> Nikesh: doesn't matter, that EFI is hamstringed to only load 32-bit EFI code - so no wonder it doesn't work properly
[02:31] <tsimonq2> Moving on X
[02:31] <tsimonq2> *XD
[02:31] <daftykins> those machines are intentionally made harder to use non-Windows with
[02:31] <msodrew> tsimonq2: I dunno man... I dunno how they could fuck things up harder than 8.1... I had to live with that for 3 months on a project and oh my god did I want to kill myself
[02:32] <Nikesh> daftykins: Interesting. THe Amazon reviews said you could send it to Acer to get your Windows $ back if you show you haven't activated it
[02:32] <agent_white> Evenin'
[02:32] <derpingit_> hey guys.. i want to fix something that i just can't put up with anymore.. you see, my browsers work just fine, but if my laptop's lid is ever closed or the computer goes to sleep , when i log back in, the internet browsers are super slow.. pages don't load. i have to restart the PC. can someone help?
[02:32] <Nikesh> What file system type do I use for an EFI boot partition?
[02:32] <daftykins> Nikesh: doesn't change the firmware on the system sadly.
[02:32] <EphraimMB> Why is everyone ignoring my question?
[02:33] <Nikesh> EphraimMB: It looks modern to me
[02:33] <TJ-> msodrew: I'd suspect your X server crashes are caused by using the xorg-edgers PPA. I'd recommend purging that PPA and returning to the stock Ubuntu packages, and either use the LTS HardWare Enablement stack or use the new special PPA that providers just the video drivers: see https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[02:33] <msodrew> Nikesh: FAT32
[02:33] <daftykins> Nikesh: this should help - http://askubuntu.com/questions/392719/32-bit-uefi-boot-support
[02:33] <EphraimMB> The Ubuntu Desktop UI isn't flat
[02:33] <msodrew> EphraimMB: it's up to you to customize Unity. Try Numix. http://sourcedigit.com/9432-top-10-best-custom-themes-ubuntu-14-04/
[02:34] <daftykins> Nikesh: you probably would find it easier to try and boot and install as legac *if* that machine will let you though.
[02:34] <daftykins> EphraimMB: you're not asking a support question.
[02:34] <msodrew> TJ-: ah... does that PPA provide an open source GPU driver that supports the Nvidia GTX 970?
[02:35] <Nikesh> daftykins: OK, interesting. Though I was weary because the Legacy USB boot was really slow
[02:35] <TJ-> msodrew: It provides the latest nvidia drivers, without all the other X server changes that make xorg-edgers unstable
[02:35] <daftykins> Nikesh: if you enter the BIOS and check, does it let you disable secure boot and EFI - and enable legacy / CSM ?
[02:35] <msodrew> TJ-: amazing... I will DEFINTELY try that out tomorrow.
[02:35] <msodrew> TJ-: thank you
[02:35] <TJ-> !ot | EphraimMB if you don't have a support question
[02:36] <Nikesh> daftykins: Yes, I did that and was able to boot into the USB in legacy mode (the boot splash was different)
[02:36] <daftykins> Nikesh: mmm maybe you'll be ok installing that way then, you'll want to nuke your disk entirely before setup to ensure it's got no GPT evidence left :)
[02:36] <TJ-> msodrew: see also https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[02:37] <Nikesh> So.. in gparted the option to create a fat32 partition is disabled.. I created new unallocated space of 2mb at the beginning of the disk, but it only allows ext2/3/4
[02:37] <Nikesh> daftykins: How do I nuke it?
[02:37] <daftykins> Nikesh: sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=1M count=1
[02:37] <msodrew> TJ-: im already on a fresh install of 14.04.3, so is that relevant?
[02:37] <daftykins> Nikesh: from live session assuming sda is your SSD
[02:38] <Nikesh> daftykins: Oh wow. Hours and hours later?
[02:38] <daftykins> Nikesh: what hours?
[02:38] <Nikesh> I mean, that will take a long time?
[02:38] <daftykins> that's going to be instant, i told you to write 1MB :)
[02:38] <TJ-> msodrew: It might be - it brings in the latest kernels that support recent hardware, etc.
[02:38] <Nikesh> daftykins: Ah right, I see now
[02:38] <daftykins> Nikesh: it's also pretty annoying that you've been carrying on with your own approach whilst i've been describing this btw
[02:38] <daftykins> :)
[02:38] <TJ-> msodrew: most importantly, HWE is a supported option on LTS
[02:38] <Nikesh> daftykins: Is there any way legacy will be 'slower'?
[02:38] <Nikesh> daftykins: I see
[02:38] <msodrew> TJ-: "The 14.04.2 and newer point release will ship with an updated kernel and X stack by default. If you have installed with older media you can use the following to install the newer kernel from 15.04 (Vivid):"
[02:38] <daftykins> you'll have to try it and tell me
[02:39] <daftykins> but no, there shouldn't*
[02:39] <Nikesh> OK, I'll give it a go..
[02:39] <daftykins> * - disclaimer, who knows what that funky windows 8.1 with Bing firmware will do
[02:39] <Nikesh> :O
[02:39] <Nikesh> :(
[02:39] <TJ-> msodrew: I thought that only applied to the installation media, not package upgrades if you start from say 14.04.0
[02:39] <lofty> if i have laptop from 2005, does it means i should use ubuntu 5?
[02:40] <msodrew> TJ-: yeah so my ubuntu is a fresh install media sourced copy of 14.04.3
[02:40] <msodrew> TJ-: i didnt apt-get my way to victory on that ;)
[02:40] <TJ-> msodrew: nice short-cut :)
[02:42] <BlueProtoman> I have a strange problem when trying to get Optimus working on Ubuntu 15.04.  http://askubuntu.com/questions/666277/optimus-using-optirun-logs-me-out-then-fails  Any thoughts?
[02:46] <mansoor> I am running Gnome3. I am unable to configure any VPN connections in my network manager. When I click "configure" the configuration window never opens. Any ideas how to fix?
[02:48] <xangua> lofty: no, you should use a supported ubuntu release, if by "laptop from 2005" you mean you have low resources then try Xubuntu or Lubuntu
[02:49] <v_v> hi. i googled a lot, and found that outgoing packets of tproxy needs a route config to know where to send the censored packets. anyway to keep them on the original path , which is in a realy bridge mode ?
[02:50] <lofty> xangua, i'm looking for "perfect" distro for past few days. the crux of my dissatisfaction lies in the fact that windows xp can run 720p videos on youtube and none of linux can run it without lagging
[02:58] <Ben64> lofty: install graphics drivers, install chrome, use html5 player
[03:00] <lofty> Ben64, graphic driver is universal, and not individual. that's where i lose performance out of my hardware. i'm already using chromium and html5 is lagging aswell
[03:01] <daftykins> lofty: what hardware is this? perhaps it's old enough that Linux regressed.
[03:01] <derpingit_> can anyone help me with my qyestion?
[03:01] <derpingit_> hey guys.. i want to fix something that i just can't put up with anymore.. you see, my browsers work just fine, but if my laptop's lid is ever closed or the computer goes to sleep , when i log back in, the internet browsers are super slow.. pages don't load. i have to restart the PC. can someone help?
[03:01] <lofty> it's from 2005, something for ubuntu 5.10 or 6.04 but i'm tweaking latest distros
[03:01] <derpingit_> i don't know where to start
[03:02] <daftykins> i take it sleeping isn't an option?
[03:02] <daftykins> lofty: so what's the graphics hardware?
[03:03] <lofty> daftykins, Mobile Intel® 915GM/GMS, 910GML Express Chipset Family
[03:03] <mikeasaurus> #samba
[03:05] <daftykins> lofty: and the processor?
[03:06] <lofty> daftykins, Intel Pentium® M Processor 760
[03:06] <daftykins> lofty: i've had a feeling for a while now that something has regressed in the i915 driver to ruin it for older hardware, i would not even bother personally.
[03:06] <daftykins> i would not make my worst enemy use a system of that age.
[03:06] <coffee-> hi i downloaded a full circle magazine and i can't read it
[03:07] <daftykins> what format? what is full circle?
[03:07] <coffee-> ubuntu full circle magazine
[03:07] <coffee-> free
[03:07] <lofty> daftykins, it's not mine, but i would like to make it run smooth with proper software
[03:07] <OerHeks> single core, and older intel , no racemonster with movies
[03:08] <coffee-> i assume it's in pdf i'll try a pdf reader
[03:08] <daftykins> lofty: good luck with that. i'd sooner buy them something from the last decade.
[03:09] <lofty> daftykins, they made lubuntu for the last decades, aren't they?
[03:09] <daftykins> so you've tried lubuntu 14.04 ?
[03:09] <lofty> even 15.04
[03:09] <daftykins> or even 12.04 is still supported
[03:09] <daftykins> no 15.04 is too new for you :)
[03:10] <lofty> tried from 11.10 (first official lubuntu) up to 15.04
[03:10] <daftykins> waste of time then
[03:11] <lofty> hmm... if windows can make it work, linux can make it work too
[03:12] <daftykins> no.
[03:12] <daftykins> and you are wasting all the people in here's time by bothering anyone with it
[03:13] <lofty> daftykins, don't me mad about something you don't know
[03:13] <lofty> be*
[03:13] <daftykins> that's not the case, i'm mad at obnoxious individuals who waste others time for pointless frivolous matters.
[03:14] <daftykins> you could get something capable of HD youtube HTML5 for $150 / £200 / etc.
[03:14] <OerHeks> html5/flash needs a duo core, even with the opendriver.
[03:15] <lofty> https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/12536/Intel-Graphics-Media-Accelerator-Driver-for-Windows-XP-exe-
[03:15]  * lofty gloats over solution
[03:16] <auk> not everyone has $150 lying around either, just saying
[03:16] <Ben64> lofty: then use the dead os that is windows xp, have a nice day
[03:17] <OerHeks> That would be a solution. sad.
[03:17] <OerHeks> but hey, those old machines are a fire risc too.
[03:17] <lofty> nevermind... have a great one
[03:18] <auk> that is a sad solution but hmm
[03:19] <Guest79189> hello can I repair my linux mint bootloader through a zorin live usb?
[03:20] <OerHeks> i love this guy :-D
[03:20] <Ben64> Guest79189: neither mint nor zorin is supported here
[03:20] <Guest79189> or does it have to be a linux mint live cd
[03:20] <Guest79189> where do i go?
[03:20] <Guest79189> can you tell me the right chatroo,?
[03:21] <Ben64> #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org
[03:21] <Guest79189> I am sorry I am new to xchat so I am not on irc.spotchat.org?
[03:21] <Ben64> you're on freenode
[03:22] <Guest79189> I am used to running xchat through mint
[03:22] <Guest79189> could you please let me know how i get to spotchat?
[03:22] <Guest79189> can i do it through this?
[03:23] <Ben64> /server irc.spotchat.org
[03:27] <tsimonq2> Hi, I bought a new computer that is on it's way(shipping) right now. I am currently on a really old 32-bit computer, but I have a bunch of crontabs and configuration files and such...when my computer comes, how can I easily make the transfer? What do I not copy over?
[03:27] <daftykins> OS?
[03:29] <tsimonq2> Lubuntu...although I think you guys can help
[03:30] <daftykins> version though?
[03:30] <tsimonq2> 15.10
[03:32] <tsimonq2> daftykins
[03:32] <daftykins> that's not out yet
[03:32] <daftykins> so unless you time travelled here...
[03:32] <lofty> how they describe lubuntu, it should be able to run on nokia 3310
[03:33]  * tsimonq2 sprints towards #ubuntu+1
[03:33] <tsimonq2> Thanks
[03:36] <EmanuelNJ> Hello. not sure where to ask if here or ubuntu-server. I have the desktop version of ubuntu installed on a laptop. How can I access that system remotly with a GUI from my Windows system? I do have the ability to ssh in
[03:37] <daftykins> teamviewer, VNC if local trusted LAN (or tunnel over SSH)
[03:37] <daftykins> plenty really.
[03:38] <daftykins> but really my brain screams 'why?' :)
[03:38] <lofty> EmanuelNJ, come with me son, i'll buy you some genuines :)
[03:39] <EmanuelNJ> daftykins, It's a trusted LAN. Do I need to install a VNC server first? And to answer why, I'm too lazy to go downstairs every time I want to use software manager to install an app
[03:39] <EmanuelNJ> daftykins, I'm trying to turn this into a Plex Media Server
[03:39] <daftykins> EmanuelNJ: learn to install packages via SSH
[03:40] <daftykins> it doesn't even need a GUI running, Plex would run faster without :)
[03:41] <plex> turning it into a plex media sever is easy you download the deb and install it using the Ubuntu software center
[03:42] <freq> ##d3v01d
[03:42] <EmanuelNJ> daftykins, I don't have time now to lean how to install over ssh. I'm under the gun from my fiancee who wants this working by the weekend. I need to get Plex installed and seen by my Amazon Fire TV stick
[03:42] <daftykins> lol.
[03:42] <Johnny_Linux> your fired
[03:43] <daftykins> EmanuelNJ: and you don't believe you can find out how to install a single package between now and the weekend?
[03:43] <daftykins> Tux, give me strength
[03:44] <daftykins> actually dont i'm off to bed
[03:44] <daftykins> \o
[03:44] <plex> once installed you setup the directory for movies etc and start adding your media
[03:44] <EmanuelNJ> daftykins, installing over ssh yes I know I won't have time. After work tomorrow I have to visit my parents in rehab and on Friday I have a wedding to go to
[04:31] <chaos7theory> When upgrading to an LTS Enablement Stack, is there any special considerations if upgrading from one stack to the other?
[04:32] <cfhowlett> !hwe | chaos7theory, this might help
[04:35] <chaos7theory> Thanks, although this page is more specific to Trusty https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[04:35] <chaos7theory> Seems weird they'd cease support on stacks when LTS is all about extensive support
[04:36] <cfhowlett> chaos7theory, I seem to recall reading the hwe support was rolled into the kernel after 12.04
[04:37] <cfhowlett> obviously, I'm no expert
[04:40] <kadiro> hello, I have a problem when excuting vdr-sxfe it give me some errors like: Failed to open VDPAU backend libvdpau_i915.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[04:44] <colemakuser> test
[04:45] <cfhowlett> !test | colemakuser
[04:45] <colemakuser> hi, thanks, I didn't know about that
[04:45] <colemakuser> I'm just trying out Pidgin for the first time, I'm used to HexChat and other IRC networks.
[04:51] <jhb> irc is neat
[04:57] <kadiro> but died
[05:03] <Toya_> Hi, anyone facing a problem with extremely slow firefox on 15.04?
[05:04] <cfhowlett> Toya_,  please avoid "has anyone ..." questions.  explain YOUR issues and use case.
[05:06] <Toya_> ops my bad! firefox is extremely slow on my 15.04, I did try to reinstall it and still same issue
[05:06] <cfhowlett> Toya_, disable ff plugins and try again.
[05:06] <kadiro> I confirm that too
[05:06] <cfhowlett> Toya_, also try launching from cli to observe error messages.
[05:07] <gshmu> Can multi person login in my pc with different account?  using Desktop, not ssh
[05:08] <cfhowlett> gshmu, are you talking about a server setup?
[05:08] <gshmu> I opened the desktop share (vnc) at other account, but can't to connect in
[05:09] <gshmu> cfhowlett: which server can do this?
[05:09] <cfhowlett> !ltsp | gshmu
[05:09] <gshmu> thanks all
[05:09] <cfhowlett> gshmu, if your goal is multiple login support, you might ask the #ubuntu-server
[05:11] <auzty> hello, i just want to ask about env variable, how to set the env variable from other env variable?
[05:12] <auzty> TEST="hello" <~ get from other env that contain hello
[05:12] <auzty> or load the env first
[05:12] <auzty> TEST="load some env ,and assign it to here"
[05:12] <proof_read_this> would someone proof read a 2 paragraphs for me?
[05:12] <Ben64> proof_read_this: not on topic
[05:13] <cfhowlett> !ot | proof_read_this
[05:14] <Toya_> Launched firefox from cli, got this "GLib-CRITICAL **: g_slice_set_config: assertion 'sys_page_size == 0' failed"
[05:15] <cfhowlett> Toya_, ff errors should be asked at ff/mozilla support but wait 1 ...
[05:17] <cfhowlett> Toya_, yeah I get all kinds of errors and warnings.  this is a fairly fresh and clean installation of Xubuntu.  firefox still runs perfectly from what I can see and the errors refer to gnome which I do not have since xubuntu.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/12203707/
[05:18] <Melite> I'm trying to set a battery threshold in my computer
[05:18] <Melite> TP520
[05:18] <Melite> Can't seem to echo the values into start_charge_thresh and stop_charge_thresh
[05:23] <gshmu> ubottu: I want my friends try my ubuntu, at sametime, using vnc or rdp
[05:25] <Toya_> Looks like the issue is not from firefox, as I just noticed that alot of  programs are a little bit slower than usual
[05:25] <Toya_> Also, CPU is a bit more spikey
[05:28] <Ionica4u> hi
[05:36] <wasgay> I could not connect to Internet, how could I install mp4 offline deb file？
[05:37] <cfhowlett> wasgay, do you have the .deb?
[05:38] <wasgay> I  don't know where could  I find deb file
[05:39] <cfhowlett> !details | wasgay
[05:41] <wasgay> I just want to play mp4, mp3 files , but I can't connet internet , how can I install that through other computer
[05:42] <baizon> wasgay: download the required deb packages
[05:42] <baizon> wasgay: http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[05:42] <cfhowlett> !vlc | wasgay
[05:44] <wasgay> Search key world: aoudio  ?
[05:44] <cfhowlett> wasgay, no.  codecs.  you need the restricted/non-free codecs to enable .mp3/4
[05:44] <wasgay> Okay.  I got it
[05:45] <wasgay> Non-free codecs ?  How to do it?
[05:46] <cfhowlett> wasgay, find the debs.  download.  install.
[05:46] <cfhowlett> !codecs | wasgay
[05:46] <wasgay> Okay
[05:52] <pheasac> me
[05:54] <r1k1_> test
[05:54] <cfhowlett> !test | r1k1_,
[05:56] <coelebs> is there a possibility to run a command when screen starts and quits from .screenrc?
[05:58] <r1k1_> ubottu im usimg irssi true phone and was testing does it go to tje bottom if i send msg
[05:58] <sai> hi om
[05:58] <cfhowlett> r1k1_, not in this channel.  join and test in #test
[06:00] <r1k1_> just scrolled 15min
[06:01] <_Roc> can someone help me with a linux bash problem
[06:01] <DotKev> I'm still learning linux, but maybe I can help, depending on your problem, _Roc
[06:01] <somsip> _Roc: as before, define your problem
[06:02] <_Roc> hello again somsip, thank u also DotKev
[06:03] <_Roc> whenever i open a new terminal i get bash: script/bash_completion_dog: No such file or directory
[06:03] <somsip> _Roc: http://askubuntu.com/questions/617211/bash-script-bash-completion-dog-no-such-file-or-directory
[06:04] <_Roc> now i looked into and found it may be a program i was messing with called sheepdog, so i uninstalled
[06:06] <_Roc> too easy, thank you somsip
[06:07] <BlueShark> Hi
[06:07] <BlueShark> How can I install an older version of gcc on my system? I tried using apt-get install, but it says no such packages are available - I guess that means it's no longer available in the repos.
[06:11] <Toya_> How can I know if the GPU driver is causing  my CPU to spike?
[06:17] <pi__> d
[06:17] <pi__> juhiuhiuiu
[06:22] <__doc__> So since yesterday my second monitor (hdmi) stopped being recognized, worked fine before.
[06:22] <__doc__> now it's running like 800x600 and can't go any higher
[06:23] <__doc__> switching between nuveau and proprietary nvidia drivers in the additional drivers settings didn't do anything (nuveau doesn't do the monitor at all)
[06:24] <acosonic> __doc__, do you have backup of your ETC, like etckeeper? Try reverting to old configuration
[06:25] <acosonic> Toya_, If you are playing some game, most likely it causes CPU to spike
[06:27] <Toya_> No, not running any game. Just doing really simple stuff like switching tabs in browser or resize a window
[06:30] <__doc__> acosonic: don't have etc backup
[06:30] <__doc__> acosonic: unless that's installed by default
[06:44] <baizon> hmm, is it possible to disable grouping in the "alt-tab" switcher?
[06:49] <doei> @baizon found something here http://askubuntu.com/questions/68151/how-do-i-revert-alt-tab-behavior-to-switch-between-windows-on-the-current-worksp/68171#68171
[06:49] <baizon> doei: yes i found that, but it's not working with 14.04 - 15.04
[06:49] <baizon> doei: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1083084
[07:04] <pentanol> hi all, In what package I can found MagickWand.h ?
[07:04] <pentanol> I've installed libmagickwand-dev
[07:06] <DJones> !find MagicKWand.h
[07:07] <TomyWork> quiz question: why does "pkill -9 chromium-browser" not kill all chromium-browser processes? (i know why)
[07:08] <pentanol> ubottu I need this for ruby
[07:09] <pentanol> DJones i.e. this header not available in packages?
[07:09] <pentanol> also I have /usr/include/ImageMagick-6/wand/MagickWand.h
[07:10] <pentanol> but C_INCLUDE_PATH=/usr/include/ImageMagick-6/ bundle install --without development test mysql sqlite
[07:10] <pentanol> not works
[07:10] <DJones> pentanol: Which version of ubuntu are you using
[07:10] <pentanol> vivid
[07:10] <DJones> pentanol: Looks like its included in http://packages.ubuntu.com/vivid/all/libmagickwand-6-headers/filelist
[07:11] <pentanol> I've this installed i A libmagickwand-6-headers
[07:11] <DJones> pentanol: I'm not sure then, its not something I've ever installed
[07:11] <Ethoscience> Hi
[07:11] <pentanol> ok then it ruby thing....
[07:12] <Ethoscience> Does anyone can help me with a little trouble trying to figure how to make to work the script livecd-iso-to-disk.sh?
[07:13] <auronandace> Ethoscience: what is wrong with using the installer to have a properly installed system?
[07:14] <TomyWork> i'll solve: "chromium-browser" is too long. the command name string only has enough space for "chromium-browse"
[07:14] <AAA_> Are there any firefox experts in here? I have firefox window with no menu or anything displayed in it a complete blank, but the window title works and even the keybord commands work! ;(
[07:14] <FreeHu> Hello! On startup, Ubuntu aways tells me "System program problem detected". With no option to show me what the problem is. How can I find out whats up?
[07:15] <FreeHu> AAA_: what is the question?
[07:16] <AAA_> FreeHu, the question is how do I configure firefox to display menu, url bar, bookmarks toolbar and the webpage itself :D
[07:17] <FreeHu> AAA_: you mean FF starts up in the state you described?
[07:17] <msodrew> FreeHu: hey dude. open up a terminal and check out some of your logs. These include /var/log/syslog /var/log/Xorg.0.log and more. You can pretty much browser /var/log and poke around to see what is suspect
[07:18] <AAA_> FreeHu, exactly, It runs everything as expected, but no display, no drawing output, only the window title shows you that the window is doing anything...
[07:18] <msodrew> FreeHu: also, commands like "dmesg" cant hurt... that'll barf out all your kernel log messages on boot
[07:18] <Ethoscience> phone
[07:19] <AAA_> msodrew: how is dmesg connected to firefox?
[07:19] <FreeHu> msodrew: yes, i know those logs. i just thought when apport tells me something is wrong, it should tell me *what* is wrong.
[07:19] <auronandace> !touch | Ethoscience
[07:19] <FreeHu> AAA_: and when you type CTRL+L, type a url and hit return?
[07:20] <cfhowlett> AAA_, firefox experts are at mozilla.
[07:20] <msodrew> AAA_:  I'm answering FreeHu's question. Not the help he is offering you.
[07:20] <AAA_> FreeHu: I can do ctrl+T and "load" a new webpage with no display, no toolbar menu...
[07:21] <FreeHu> msodrew: well, there are 912 lines in dmesg. hard to say what it is that apport complains about.
[07:21] <AAA_> msodrew: yae, I noticed now, it just seemed connected, sorry... I came too late in your conversation so didn't see the previous
[07:22] <FreeHu> AAA_: and when you type ALT+V and enable toolbars and stuff in the menu?
[07:22] <msodrew> FreeHu: welcome to the world of linux. you really have to dig through log files and look for things that are suspicious to diagnose problems
[07:22] <AAA_> cfhowlett and mozilla irc channel is? as you see my browser does not work :D
[07:22] <msodrew> FreeHu: combine that with googling those errors you find and you're on your way to victory
[07:22] <FreeHu> msodrew: guess i will deinstal apport then
[07:22] <msodrew> FreeHu: what is apport?
[07:23] <FreeHu> msodrew: the thing that bugs you with the "system program problem detected" messages.
[07:23] <msodrew> FreeHu: lol i dont think thats a solution
[07:23] <msodrew> FreeHu: you should try to diagnose the problem
[07:23] <AAA_> FreeHu: the thing is: I had toolbars and menu enabled before and I tried the alt-v and such... nothing :) I... it is as if the rendering output is redirected to /dev/null
[07:23] <msodrew> FreeHu: instead of uninstall the app that is warning you
[07:24] <FreeHu> msodrew: if the app is so dump to report "problem" but not what, i dont trust that app. no other linux distro i know uses it.
[07:24] <msodrew> FreeHu: fair enough
[07:24] <msodrew> FreeHu: good luck
[07:24] <msodrew> 1\
[07:25] <FreeHu> its another blow agains my trust in ubuntu
[07:25] <FreeHu> they want you to send them data without even giving you the chance to see the data yourself.
[07:26] <magicoverflow> I installed cryptsetup and i got there error cryptsetup: WARNING: failed to detect canonical device of /dev/md2, why is it trying to detect anything ?
[07:26] <FreeHu> apport offers a "report the problem" button but no "see the problem".
[07:26] <FreeHu> this is SO anti-user
[07:26] <AAA_> FreeHu: trust in ubuntu? not a good idea, given their totalitarian tendencies (stripping you of options and choices)
[07:26] <FreeHu> AAA_: just using it because my new laptop came with it. already downloaded mint to replace it.
[07:27] <cfhowlett> I know it's tempting, but let's focus on the technical support topic, please.  FUD, religion and politics should be discussed in #ubuntu-offtopic --- if you must
[07:28] <AAA_> cfhowlett, I didn't say ubuntu is a religion ... ;-)
[07:28] <FreeHu> i didnt say its a political party. just that it has apport installed which prompts you to send data to canonical and offers no way to look at that data yourself.
[07:29] <FreeHu> which is a technical description of what that app does.
[07:30] <FreeHu> and there also was no fud in what we said.
[07:30] <FreeHu> just facts.
[07:30] <AAA_> FreeHu: on the other hand, I have reliable reports of confidential and personal data being sent to microsoft ever since the early days of windows XP..., they had all the names and usernames and organisation names and such from all the installations, including the pirated ones...
[07:31] <FreeHu> AAA_: maybe. i did not use windows since windows 2k.
[07:32] <AAA_> FreHu: when I try to closethe firefox, I get the window of "confirm close" that is also empty... no buttons in it... frustrating :D
[07:32] <FreeHu> AAA_: how did you install FF?
[07:33] <AAA_> FreeHu: I am only reporting what the internal employees saw... and the same goes for win 10, even worse
[07:33] <AAA_> FreeHu: wll, it was installed for years, but there cuold have been an upgrade to it... well.
[07:34] <FreeHu> AAA_: is it installed from the ubuntu repos or did you download it from somewhere?
[07:35] <AAA_> FreeHu: I loaded a blank profile instead of the usual one and well it started, it seems I will have to repair the profile!!! I'm dead...
[07:44] <AAA_> FreeHu: I think it could be caused by a combination of firefox update and the big freeze it suffered (10.5 GB of virtual memory)
[07:47] <FreeHu> AAA_: i would probably apt-get purge firefox, then install it from the repos.
[07:48] <AAA_> FreeHu: yea, but you still need to repair the profile...
[07:48] <FreeHu> wouldnt apt-get purge delete itß
[07:48] <FreeHu> wouldnt apt-get purge delete it?
[07:48] <xangua> FreeHu: no
[07:48] <FreeHu> then i would delete it manually
[07:48] <AAA_> FreeHu: where is the difference between comitting suicide and deleting your profile?
[07:49] <FreeHu> i dont keep anything important in the ff profile
[07:49] <FreeHu> i would just do rm -r /home/username/.mozilla
[07:49] <AAA_> FreeHu: no bookmarks, even?
[07:49] <FreeHu> sometimes i bookmark something as a reminder "hey you could look into this later"
[07:49] <xangua> AAA_: just rename your .Mozilla directory and try a new one, you could also start Firefox in safe mode to check is not an add-on causing any troubles
[07:50] <FreeHu> and when i have time, i go through my bookmarks and read some of them.
[07:50] <FreeHu> but nothing important, no.
[07:50] <AAA_> FreeHu: your bokmarks are in the profile
[07:50] <FreeHu> yes, but i dont need them
[07:50] <FreeHu> right now, i have 1 bookmark
[07:50] <FreeHu> from like 30 minutes ago
[07:51] <FreeHu> probably i will delete it again without readin it.
[07:51] <AAA_> xangua: how do I start in a safe mode is I don't have menu, url bar or anything displayed? :D
[07:52] <xangua> AAA_: I don't remember the actual command , Firefox-safe-mode maybe? I'm not in Ubuntu right now
[07:53] <AAA_> xangua, aah, command line? good idea... I need to find the list somewhere...
[07:53] <FreeHu> AAA_: man firefox
[07:53] <FreeHu> AAA_: will tell you the parameter is -safe-mode
[07:54] <AAA_> FreeHu, great, that one man page is nice
[07:56] <AAA_> FreeHu: and I see Glib-CRITOCAL and several warnings after I run it... nice...
[07:57] <AAA_> FreeHu: but the safe mode works even less than the usual one...
[07:58] <FreeHu> AAA_: and when you run it with a fresh profile?
[07:59] <AAA_> FreeHu: fresh profile works, but I would like my browser session back and the bookmarks and so on...
[08:00] <FreeHu> AAA_: then analyze what is in the profile dir and copy the important bits over
[08:01] <xangua> How old is this profile? What Ubuntu/Firefox version? When and how did your profile stopped working?
[08:01] <AAA_> FreeHu: there are issues with that as well :(, but I will have to do that... hours and hours of work...
[08:13] <michel__> I installed i3wm and let it execute the mate-settings-daemon by default. now i can control the volume by fn-keys but not the brightness. is there another daemon which controls that part?
[08:18] <FreeHu> is there a keyboard only way in ubuntu to start programs?
[08:19] <FreeHu> in gnome i use ALT+F1 to bring up the main menu and then start applications via the first char in their name.
[08:19] <FreeHu> but unity seems to not have that.
[08:19] <TomyWork> i just rsynced my home folder to my new machine (with --delete, so it's exactly the same as it was on the old machine) and now i cant log into an x session anymore. both machines are kubuntu trusty
[08:21] <xangua> FreeHu: hit the super/Windows key
[08:21] <FreeHu> xangua: i see. will try that for a while
[08:22] <TomyWork> according to the syslog, something went wrong while initializing the display. i'll pastebin it in a minute
[08:24] <TomyWork> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12204300/
[08:33] <linocisco> hi
[08:33] <linocisco> how to transfer files , movies, pdf, jpg between ipad and ubuntu ?
[08:34] <cfhowlett> !ipad | linocisco
[08:35] <ubuntu> hey guys
[08:35] <ubuntu> i really really need some help
[08:35] <cfhowlett> !ask | ubuntu
[08:36] <Guest48877> okay when i start my computer it says that it is running in low graphic even in fail safe mode and i have not been updating or removing any drivers
[08:37] <linocisco> cfhowlett, it doesn't help. I want to transfer like USB drive between ipad and ubuntu.
[08:37] <cfhowlett> linocisco, then you'd have been better served with an android tab.  osx is not linux friendly
[08:38] <barbewaldemar> exit
[08:38] <Guest48877> okay when i start my computer it says that it is running in low graphic even in fail safe mode and i have not been updating or removing any drivers can anyone help me out?!
[08:39] <benwilber> cfhowlett what a useless answer.
[08:39] <AAA_> Guest: seems like you havean older GPU that is "no longer supported", welcome to the new world
[08:39] <cfhowlett> Guest44528, you're on a live usb not full install.  I'd suspect you haven't got the correct answers.
[08:39] <cfhowlett> benwilber, feel free to improve on it
[08:39] <h0mer> @Guest48877 what video card do you have?
[08:40] <Guest48877> cfhowlett i am running the live usb right now because i cant boot from my hard
[08:40] <AAA_> linocisco: well, in old XP, we used the F5, Enter to copy files... in Total Commander, it seems the new methodsare not as user friendly?
[08:41] <Guest48877> h0mer its a intel i ran these 2 in teminal sudo lshw -c display and lspci -nnk | grep -iA2 VGA doesnt say much to me but maybe you know more about it
[08:42] <AAA_> Guest48877 then you need a proprietary driver, and most likely the old one had "issues", what chipset is it?
[08:43] <h0mer> what motherboard do you have?
[08:43] <Guest48877> AAA_ how will i know what chipset it is??
[08:43] <Guest48877> h0mer i have a hp laptop its a probook 430 g2
[08:44] <benwilber> cfhowlett when the answer is "use something else", then the result is "don't use ubuntu"
[08:44] <AAA_> Guest: either look at the mainboard or find it somehow... on manufacturers page or during startup, bios, etc.
[08:44] <h0mer> @Guest it's a Intel HD 4400
[08:45] <cfhowlett> benwilber, do YOU have an answer to the original question: how does one transfer media between ubuntu and ipad?
[08:45] <Guest48877> h0mer is there any ways i can reinstall my drivers from the live usb?
[08:45] <benwilber> the answer is you can't.  don't use ubuntu if you want to play with your ipad
[08:46] <h0mer> @Guest48877 try the following: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2222388 (update your kernal version)
[08:46] <Hardcore7> Guest48877: why from live usb, can't you use the recovery or fallback?
[08:47] <cfhowlett> linocisco, sorry. other than transferring pictures in camera mode, usb transfer between ios and ubuntu doesn't work.
[08:48] <arussel> is it possible on a system with both ubuntu and window to run ubuntu and access the window systm from a vm such as VirtualBox ?
[08:49] <cfhowlett> arussel, ssh for sure.  remote desktop procedures possibly
[08:49] <h0mer> if you're dual booting operating systems... only one is running at a time so I'm going to go ahead and say no..
[08:50] <arussel> cfhowlett: what do you mean ssh ? I mean start a VirtualBox instance that uses the Window OS installed.
[08:50] <cfhowlett> !ssh | arussel,
[08:50] <Guest48877> Hardcore7 no nothing is working the fallback and recovery mode is giving me the same errors about graphics and i tried CTRL + F1 ro do it in the console but it couldn't connect to my wifi because the ssid is hidden
[08:51] <arussel> cfhowlett: if the window system is not up and runnning, I can't ssh into it
[08:51] <cfhowlett> arussel, pretty sure that any remotely accessed system must be up and running before you come knocking ...
[08:51] <Hardcore7> Guest48877: is it possible to connect your LAN cable?
[08:52] <arussel> cfhowlett: my question is how do you get the Window system up and running using VBox (is it possible)
[08:52] <Guest48877> Hardcore7 thats the sad thing it's not possible so the options i got is find a way to update from live usb or format at least thats the options i see
[08:53] <cfhowlett> arussel, ask in ##windows?  seems something they would know
[08:53] <Guest48877> h0mer if i update the kernal will i lose anthing??
[08:53] <adsc> arussel: you can't start up an installed windows system as a virtual machine
[08:53] <TomyWork> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12204300/ <-- I get this error as soon as I connect a monitor to my docking station. what do you suggest?
[08:53] <Hardcore7> Guest48877: Hm, I never tried to change drivers with an live usb; I think I can't help you out :/
[08:53] <AAA_> adsc: why not? lol
[08:53] <TomyWork> except not connecting a monitor to the docking station :)
[08:54] <adsc> AAA_: because an installed system is not a virtual machine container?
[08:54] <AAA_> adsc: the great feature of windows (XP, 98 and such) was the ability to clone it, so you do a clone and run the clone in an VM.
[08:54] <arussel> adsc: thanks
[08:55] <linocisco> cfhowlett, if ubuntu would offer wifi tethering without any assistance of wifi router in between and ipad can connect to ubuntu's mini web server, it would be cool
[08:55] <AAA_> adsc: it will of course complain about the drivers, so you reinstall the drivers and such, but then... much better than nothing at all!
[08:55] <adsc> AAA_: yes, but it's a clone, not the same system...if you change files, the files on the installed system aren't changed
[08:56] <shetriwy16> #hi
[08:57] <shetriwy16> plz how supprimer windows
[08:57] <adsc> ?
[08:57] <cfhowlett> shetriwy16, ???
[08:57] <Guest48877> AAA_ any new suggestions?
[08:57] <shetriwy16> plz supprimer windows 7
[08:57] <Guest48877> Hardcore7 its alright thanks for trying
[08:57] <shetriwy16> you speak arabic,,
[08:58] <k1l> !arabic | shetriwy16
[08:58] <shetriwy16> ايوجد من يتحدث العربية
[08:58] <shetriwy16> انا ضعيف قليلا في انجلزية
[08:58] <shetriwy16> خخخخ
[08:59] <EriC^^> shetriwy16: ktob /join #ubuntu-arabic
[08:59] <shetriwy16> اريد ح\ف ويندوز 7 وابقاء اوبنتو فقط
[09:00] <Guest48877> do you guys know if i can just download the drivers and store them on a hard disk then boot into my console and install them from there?? does that seem like something that would work??
[09:00] <k1l> shetriwy16: this channel is english only. use the #ubuntu-arabic channel fpor arabic
[09:00] <shetriwy16> ok
[09:00] <AAA_> shetriwy16: you are still on the #ubuntu channel, you need to go to #ubuntu-arabic :)
[09:01] <shetriwy16> I want to delete Windows 7
[09:01] <AAA_> Guest48877, possibly yes, but find the drivers first... find the chipset first.
[09:01] <EriC^^> shetriwy16: boot the ubuntu live usb, choose erase disk and install ubuntu
[09:01] <shetriwy16> How do you
[09:01] <shetriwy16> Do you have pictures or video to explain
[09:02] <EriC^^> it will erase windows completely, so back up the stuff you want first
[09:02] <k1l> !install | shetriwy16
[09:02] <Guest48877> AAA_ i can show you the out put of these commands  sudo lshw -c display and lspci -nnk | grep -iA2 VGA
[09:02] <AAA_> shetriwy16: I just clicked on the #ubuntu-arabic and was transferred there...
[09:03] <shetriwy16> ؟؟ where you ubuntu arabic
[09:03] <cfhowlett> shetriwy16,  /join #ubuntu-arabic : للحصول على الدعم باللغة العربية
[09:04] <shetriwy16> http://ubuntu-arabic.org/linux/
[09:04] <shetriwy16> ok by thanks all
[09:05] <Guest48877> AAA_ Technology, 3 MB cache, 2 cores)
[09:05] <Guest48877> Intel® Core™ i3-5010U with Intel HD Graphics 5500 (2.1 GHz, 3 MB cache, 2 cores) 4
[09:08] <minter> test
[09:08] <minter> Hallo. Kann hier jemand deutsch?
[09:08] <k1l> minter: besser ists in #ubuntu-de
[09:08] <minter> danke
[09:09] <AAA_> minter nicht viel :P
[09:11] <Guest48877> when i boot into fail safe or fall back or regular mode on ubuntu 15.04 it tells me that i have low graphics and that it could not find my graphics driver it gives me the option to look at the error message but there is nothing on it it's just blank
[09:11] <Guest48877> can someone please help???
[09:12] <cfhowlett> !nomodeset | Guest48877, sounds like a graphics setting issue
[09:12] <EriC^^> Guest48877: so you get a desktop when you login?
[09:13] <Guest48877> no its all just black
[09:13] <Guest48877> i get a little window with that error
[09:14] <sam_> hello can anyone tell me how to open html page in ubuntu server
[09:14] <cfhowlett> !server | sam_
[09:15] <Ogg_L> use vim
[09:15] <Guest48877> EriC^^ cfhowlett it says "the system is running on low-graphics mode your screen graphics card and input deice settings could not be detected correctly, you will need to configure them yorself"
[09:16] <cfhowlett> !graphics | Guest48877, I must have missed it but you DID set up your card and drivers ... right?
[09:18] <cfhowlett> !display | Guest48877 see #1
[09:18] <AAA_> Guest48877, I reasearched it a bit and it seems you are using a MESA driver for the GPU, well, the issue might be in the mesa driver, I remember struggling with in on a different computer for a while, why I am running it right now!
[09:19] <EriC^^> Guest48877: type lspci | grep VGA and paste here
[09:21] <mahbub> hi please anyone suggest me the best book of command line
[09:22] <v0r0nwe> for what?
[09:22] <sam_> can anyone tell me how to open html page in ubuntu server??
[09:22] <v0r0nwe> sam_: as already mentioned, use vim
[09:22] <v0r0nwe> or your editor of choice
[09:23] <Guest48877> so whats your best idea?
[09:23] <mahbub> kire vai tora dehi amare time e des na
[09:24] <mahbub> ghotona ki??
[09:24] <mahbub> shalara
[09:24] <Guest48877> EriC^^ here is the output 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Haswell-ULT Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 0b)
[09:24] <mahbub> emon pidan pidamu ekbare shoja hoe jabi
[09:25] <EriC^^> Guest48877: ok, type sudo ubuntu-drivers devices and paste in paste.ubuntu.com
[09:25] <jjavaholic_> I have this really weird touchpad issue with my new dell laptop it seems like the cursor is always in the positive click position xorg0.log thows up unable to find touch point in xorg0.log
[09:27] <Guest48877> EriC^^  http://paste.ubuntu.com/12204579/
[09:29] <EriC^^> Guest48877: try sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:30] <Guest48877> EriC^^ will that apply to my harddisk as well as the usb??
[09:30] <EriC^^> Guest48877: i dont follow
[09:30] <EriC^^> you're in a live usb?
[09:31] <Guest48877> yes thats what i said i couldnot start it normaly or in fail safe or even fallback and the CTRL + F1 console is not working
[09:32] <EriC^^> ok, type sudo parted -l
[09:32] <EriC^^> use paste.ubuntu.com
[09:34] <Guest48877> EriC^^  http://paste.ubuntu.com/12204611/
[09:35] <Chronicle112> hey
[09:39] <zetheroo> in Ubuntu 14.04 what is the 32bit intel graphics driver? (or is there one for both 64 and 32 bit?)
[09:39] <EriC^^> Guest48877: type sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt
[09:40] <Guest48877> EriC^^ and then??
[09:40] <EriC^^> Guest48877: type for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done
[09:41] <EriC^^> Guest48877: type the whole line from for i ... til done
[09:41] <MattTS> I left my machine running some code overnight and this morning I can't get any output on the display. I can ssh in fine and I managed to trace the output of the running code. Is there anything I can do via SSH to try and get it to start outputting to the display again?
[09:41] <Guest48877> EriC^^ after that??
[09:41] <EriC^^> Guest48877: did you type them?
[09:42] <Guest48877> EriC^^ yup copied everything " i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done"
[09:42] <EriC^^> Guest48877: no, from for i ...
[09:43] <dtraveler> Hi, I am using ubuntu 14.04 and I think, the search <domain-name> in /etc/resolv.conf is not working. Can someone help?
[09:43] <Guest48877> EriC^^ oh okay done cx
[09:43] <MattTS> Never mind, it obviously decided one more attempt was enough to get it to output something after restarting the display stuff several times
[09:43] <EriC^^> Guest48877: did you get any errors?
[09:44] <linocisco> any flashgot plugin for firefox?
[09:44] <EriC^^> linocisco: yeah, google for it
[09:44] <Guest48877> EriC^^ nope
[09:44] <EriC^^> Guest48877: ok, type sudo chroot /mnt
[09:45] <Guest48877> EriC^^ and then?
[09:45] <EriC^^> linocisco: or go to tools > addons > flashgot
[09:45] <EriC^^> Guest48877: let me know when you type it and what you get
[09:46] <Guest48877> EriC^^ i typed it and my name went from "root@ubuntu:~#" to "root@ubuntu:/#"
[09:46] <EriC^^> ok
[09:46] <EriC^^> type apt-get update
[09:47] <Guest48877> i got 4 warnings and one E at the end looks like i was updating my harddisk?
[09:47] <EriC^^> type apt-get update |& nc termbin.com 9999
[09:48] <Guest48877> EriC^^ is that for me??
[09:48] <EriC^^> yeah
[09:49] <Guest48877> it just showed me a link
[09:49] <EriC^^> ok, paste the link here
[09:49] <Guest48877> http://termbin.com/l8pb
[09:49] <EriC^^> thx
[09:50] <EriC^^> Guest48877: try apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:50] <Guest48877> EriC^^ no probs but it is not listinf the earnings
[09:50] <EriC^^> did it say reading packages 100% at the bottom?
[09:51] <cfhowlett> zetheroo, intel pulled the 14.04 drivers.  for more info, see https://01.org/linuxgraphics/downloads
[09:52] <Guest48877> EriC^^ when i apt-get update??
[09:52] <EriC^^> Guest48877: yeah
[09:52] <Guest48877> EriC^^ nope
[09:52] <zetheroo> cfhowlett: ok. How do I know what my system is using now?
[09:53] <cfhowlett> zetheroo, unless you explicitly installed intel stuff, you're using opensource drivers
[09:53] <Guest48877> EriC^^ here is the update http://paste.ubuntu.com/12204717/
[09:54] <EriC^^> Guest48877: ok, you have some ppa's you need to disable
[09:55] <Guest48877> EriC^^ how do i do that X
[09:55] <qu4nt1n> !s fantastic four
[09:57] <EriC^^> Guest48877: type for i in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*; do echo $i; cat $i; done | nc termbin.com 9999
[09:57] <rory> EriC^^: That termbin.com looks nice. No more making people install pastebinit
[09:57] <Guest48877> EriC^^ there   http://termbin.com/92y5
[09:59] <EriC^^> Guest48877: type sudo sed -i 's/^deb/#deb/' /etc/apt/sources.list.d/evolve-os-ubuntu-ppa-vivid.list*
[10:00] <EriC^^> Guest48877: also sudo sed -i 's/^deb/#deb/' /etc/apt/sources.list.d/tsvetko_tsvetkov-ubuntu-cinnamon-vivid.list
[10:01] <gopal> hi
[10:03] <Guest48877> EriC^^ we have got problems    http://paste.ubuntu.com/12204757/
[10:03] <EriC^^> Guest48877: ah, sorry without the sudo
[10:04] <EriC^^> but it's odd you don't have /etc/sudoers though, we'll look into it after the ppa's
[10:04] <h0mer> its probably a permissions issue on the etc folder
[10:05] <Guest48877> EriC^^ i get no result
[10:05] <EriC^^> Guest48877: for both commands?
[10:05] <Guest48877> EriC^^ yea
[10:05] <EriC^^> ok, try apt-get update again
[10:06] <Newbie> hii
[10:06] <Newbie> all
[10:07] <Guest48877> EriC^^ 3 warnings
[10:07] <EriC^^> can you paste them in paste.ubuntu.com?
[10:07] <EriC^^> paste the whole output there
[10:08] <Guest48877> EriC^^  sure http://paste.ubuntu.com/12204788/
[10:08] <Guest48877> EriC^^ wait thats not the whole out put give me a sec XD
[10:08] <EriC^^> it's ok, it seems that it read the lists
[10:09] <EriC^^> try apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:09] <Guest48877> EriC^^ there  http://paste.ubuntu.com/12204793/
[10:12] <Guest291> #join
[10:14] <Guest291> #ubuntu
[10:15] <onicrom> for the life of my i cannot get udev to name my ethernet interfaces properly once ive enabled SR-IOV, anyone know a surefire way to do this?
[10:15] <Guest48877> EriC^^ you there??
[10:16] <EriC^^> yeah
[10:16] <linocisco> AAA_, what are you talking to me?
[10:16] <EriC^^> Guest48877: try apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:16] <AAA_> liniocisco: I don't know, when?
[10:16] <EriC^^> ( dist-upgrade not update )
[10:17] <Guest48877> EriC^^ i did and it gave me a couple of packages that are no longer needed
[10:17] <EriC^^> Guest48877: ok, can you paste the whole output?
[10:18] <Guest48877> EriC^^ im not questioning your linux skills or anything but how will this help ?? http://paste.ubuntu.com/12204832/
[10:18] <EriC^^> Guest48877: trying to install the latest packages and kernel
[10:19] <Guest48877> EriC^^ ohh okay okay cx
[10:19] <EriC^^> which pc do you have?
[10:20] <Guest48877> EriC^^ its a hp probook 430 g2 with a intel i3
[10:20] <EriC^^> ok, type ls -l /etc/sudoers and paste here
[10:21] <Guest48877> EriC^^ -r--r----- 1 root ghost 770 Aug 25 21:05 /etc/sudoers
[10:22] <EriC^^> ghost?
[10:22] <Guest48877> EriC^^ yea??
[10:22] <EriC^^> why is the group ghost?
[10:22] <Guest48877> EriC^^  its the name of my pc dont question  my awesomeness XD
[10:23] <EriC^^> it should be root :D
[10:23] <EriC^^> did you chgrp it?
[10:23] <ubuntu-mate> mate
[10:24] <Guest48877> EriC^^ ohh haha nope i mean i took the ownership of the Home folder
[10:24] <EriC^^> Guest48877: type chown root: /etc/sudoers
[10:24] <zetheroo> cfhowlett: how do I know if my graphics drivers are 64bit or 32bit? I have a 64bit install of Ubuntu but I think I need the 32bit libraries for my graphics ...
[10:24] <Guest48877> EriC^^ okay
[10:25] <cfhowlett> zetheroo, why?  if you're running a 64 OS, 64 parts ...
[10:25] <Guest48877> zetheroo doesnt that depend on how much RAM you got installed??
[10:25] <zetheroo> cfhowlett: in trying to run a program through wine (32bit prefix) there seems to be some errors in the log about drivers missing ..
[10:25] <Guest291> *** Topic for #ubuntu : hello
[10:25] <EriC^^> Guest48877: try apt-get install --reinstall linux-image-generic
[10:26] <cfhowlett> zetheroo, wait, you're trying to access your graphics card ... through wine ?
[10:26] <Guest48877> EriC^^ okay that sounds baad
[10:26] <zetheroo> cfhowlett: I read online that someone needed to install the 32bit libraries in Linux for it to work
[10:26] <Guest48877> EriC^^ will it erase any data or something??
[10:26] <EriC^^> Guest48877: no just reinstalling in case it'll help
[10:26] <EriC^^> no
[10:26] <zetheroo> cfhowlett: I guess ..
[10:27] <cfhowlett> zetheroo, :) tis a bit confusing at times, yes.  I'm no wine expert but so far as I know, I installed ONLY 64 bits of stuff on my ubuntu + wine.
[10:27] <cfhowlett> !wine
[10:27] <EriC^^> Guest48877: i was hoping installing the latest kernel might fix the problem, but it's already updated so we'll try to reinstall
[10:27] <Guest48877> EriC^^ you want the output of that??
[10:27] <EriC^^> Guest48877: yeah
[10:27] <zetheroo> cfhowlett: ok
[10:28] <Guest48877> EriC^^ there http://paste.ubuntu.com/12204878/
[10:29] <Guest291> I am trying to run pcap files in sdn mininet pox controller. But the controller is not responding to the  traffic generate by pcap file.Does anyone has any idea ??
[10:30] <bazhang> Guest291, whats the connection to ubuntu there
[10:30] <EriC^^> Guest48877: ok
[10:31] <Guest291> #openflow
[10:31] <Guest48877> EriC^^ should i do the auto remove??
[10:31] <EriC^^> Guest48877: no
[10:32] <Guest48877> EriC^^ okie
[10:33] <ivan_> /
[10:33] <EriC^^> Guest48877: try apt-get install --reinstall xserver-xorg-video-intel
[10:34] <ivan_> apache htaccess
[10:34] <Guest48877> EriC^^ here is the output http://paste.ubuntu.com/12204903/
[10:35] <montimer> anyone use the Ubuntu touch core app Calendar? I'm having trouble running it to begin with, getting this error: http://pastebin.com/Up3b7ft1
[10:36] <EriC^^> Guest48877: i think your permissions are pretty messed up
[10:36] <EriC^^> Guest48877: type ls -l /etc | nc termbin.com 9999
[10:36] <zetheroo> cfhowlett: the issue I am having is that .net 4.0 is not installable in a 64bit prefix, so I am stuck with using a 32bit prefix - hence the need for Ubuntu 32bit libraries ... no?
[10:36] <Guest48877> EriC^^ does that have anything to do with the gpu?
[10:36] <cfhowlett> zetheroo, outside my area.  please ask #winehq or see the wine database for that specific app.
[10:37] <zetheroo> cfhowlett: ok
[10:37] <EriC^^> Guest48877: i dont know, did the pc used to run correctly?
[10:37] <Guest48877> EriC^^ http://termbin.com/2okz
[10:37] <EriC^^> searching google shows your pc as one of the certified to be preinstalled with ubuntu..
[10:37] <zetheroo> cfhowlett: but is it possible to install the 32bit libraries in Ubuntu 64bit?
[10:37] <Guest48877> EriC^^ yes it used to be fine it came wiht windows 8 but i have been using ubuntu on it for maybe 2 month now
[10:37] <EriC^^> yes that would affect the install Guest48877 , those ghost should be root
[10:38] <cfhowlett> zetheroo, of course.
[10:38] <EriC^^> i think you should opt for reinstalling at this point Guest48877
[10:38] <EriC^^> Guest48877: i think you've run chown ghost on your system
[10:38] <Guest48877> EriC^^ cant i just give root the ownsership?
[10:38] <EriC^^> Guest48877: no saying how much the damage is..
[10:39] <cfhowlett> zetheroo, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultiArch
[10:39] <Guest48877> EriC^^ i did because it wouldnt let me open firefox without doing sudo firefox
[10:39] <zetheroo>  cfhowlett: ok, great - thanks!
[10:40] <EriC^^> Guest48877: well, never change the permissions of the system files
[10:40] <EriC^^> just your home directory
[10:40] <Guest48877> EriC^^ so where is no was to give root the ownsership again??
[10:41] <EriC^^> Guest48877: the files aren't all owned by root, some have different groups etc. also what was the command you issued?
[10:41] <EriC^^> was it just on /etc ?
[10:41] <Guest48877> yea the whole etc i had some problems that i didn't have before
[10:43] <stratos> hello
[10:44] <Guest48877> EriC^^ what if i just replace those files wit the files of the live usb??
[10:44] <Guest48877> with**
[10:44] <EriC^^> Guest48877: those are config files
[10:44] <EriC^^> Guest48877: type ls -l /etc/cron.daily
[10:44] <EriC^^> are the files also owned by ghost?
[10:45] <Guest48877> EriC^^ yupp
[10:45] <EriC^^> i'd reinstall
[10:45] <EriC^^> or you have to check what a base install /etc looks like and manually fix everything
[10:45] <EriC^^> a reinstall would be quicker and easier
[10:45] <Guest48877> EriC^^ is there any way to keep the files i have?? i dont wanna download all the software i got
[10:46] <EriC^^> Guest48877: if you haven't run apt-get clean then the files will still be in /var/cache/apt/archives
[10:46] <EriC^^> you can try to copy them and in the new install copy them back or so, also you can save the list of packages you have installed right now and install them back
[10:47] <Guest48877> EriC^^ so they won get deleted or anything ill just get a new system and all my software will be installed on there?
[10:47] <EriC^^> !aptoncd | Guest48877
[10:48] <EriC^^> Guest48877: the programs will be reinstalled, you'll lose the configs you've done, except for the stuff that's in your home dir if you back it all up and copy it back
[10:48] <Guest48877> EriC^^ i have to go eat food but ill do that
[10:48] <Guest48877> i'll be back in around 30 mintes
[10:48] <EriC^^> ok
[10:50] <magicoverflow> I am trying to create sparse file using dd if=/dev/zero of=test.dat bs=1G count=0 seek=1
[10:50] <magicoverflow> my expected result is a 1G file however i am left with 0 byte file ?
[10:52] <ubuntu358> hello can anyone tell me how to open html page (GUI) in ubuntu server
[10:52] <EriC^^> magicoverflow: you need count=1
[10:54] <EriC^^> ubuntu358: you need to install a de/wm for a gui
[10:54] <EriC^^> ubuntu358: if you just want to view the page minimally you can use elinks or so in the terminal
[10:59] <ysr> why
[11:00] <ubuntu358> i'm using ubuntu server in virtual environment and want to open html page on host browser, can anyone help plz?
[11:00] <geirha> ubuntu358: then you need to change the virtual network interface to either host-only or bridged
[11:01] <montimer> I'm trying to install ubuntu-sdk and I keep getting messages in the form of ubuntu-sdk : Depends: <some library> but it is not going to be installed, and the chain just keeps going up. What's going on?
[11:01] <magicoverflow> EriC^^, turns out even though its zero bytes if i mkfs then mount it shows its size
[11:01] <geirha> ubuntu358: #vbox can help with the specifics of how to configure virtualbox (assuming you're using virtualbox)
 i have already set bridge but don't know the exact url of that page
[11:02] <skeleton> I cannot get auto-login to work in 15.04, despite editing the lightdm conf files like I should. I also don't have lightdm-set-defaults (?)
[11:03] <geirha> ubuntu358: run this on the guest to find the ip:   ip -o -4 addr show     then   http://<that-ip>/  in your web browser
[11:04] <Delta706> Can I select a PNG as desktop background?
[11:04] <skeleton> disregard that, my home directory was encrypted and apparently that prevents it!
[11:06] <ysr> Help: which is best Free VPN  Linux?
[11:07] <TJ-> skeleton: that is correct since the password to unlock the ecryptfs file-system won't be available
[11:07] <TJ-> ysr: All Linux VPN software is 'free'
[11:17] <walac> TJ-: fyi, I solved my yesterday network problem by removing the network-manager-vpn and network-manager-vpn-gnome packages
[11:17] <TJ-> walac: so it wasn't the hardware it was the network-manager?
[11:18] <walac> TJ-: yep
[11:18] <TJ-> walac: was it creating a tunnel and routing packets into it?
[11:18] <walac> TJ-: nope, I just had the packages installed, nothing configured
[11:19] <TJ-> walac: that is weird; I have those routinely installed and never seen any problems, even when they're not configured for use
[11:20] <walac> TJ-: really weird, anyway, I can connect to network now :)
[11:22] <ysr> help: vpn software in Ubuntu
[11:33] <DarkKnightCZ> Hi, I have some issue with reprepro, I have one package that is built twice for each version of ubuntu, but when i try to issue reprepro includedeb trusty file.deb (previous includedeb was for vivid), it throws "Already existing files can only be included again, if they are the same, but:...", any ideas how this can be achieved?
[11:37] <Guest48877> EriC^^ you there?
[11:38] <EriC^^> Guest48877: yeah
[11:38] <Guest48877> EriC^^i got this crazy idea
[11:39] <Guest48877> what if i downgrade the kernel
[11:39] <EriC^^> Guest48877: won't work
[11:39] <shetriwy16_> hi
[11:39] <EriC^^> it's irrelevant
[11:40] <Guest48877> EriC^^ what if i download a virgin etc and replace mine
[11:41] <EriC^^> Guest48877: you'll lose some configs of installed programs and lots of other stuff
[11:41] <EriC^^> why don't you make the aptoncd , and get the list of your packages, backup your home dir and then fresh install?
[11:42] <Guest48877> EriC^^ becuse i have some problem with terminal
[11:42] <EriC^^> you mean you don't know how to use the terminal very well?
[11:42] <Guest48877> no i mean wait ill write it down
[11:43] <Guest48877> There was an error creating the child process for this terminal  getpt failed: No such file or directory
[11:44] <Guest48877> EriC^^ problem ^
[11:45] <EriC^^> ok, type exit
[11:45] <EriC^^> type sudo mount -B /dev/pts /mnt/dev/pts
[11:46] <Guest48877> mount: mount point /mnt/dev/pts does not exist
[11:46] <EriC^^> Guest48877: type sudo mount -B /dev /mnt/dev
[11:47] <Guest48877> EriC^^ mount: mount point /mnt/dev does not exist
[11:47] <EriC^^> did you type exit?
[11:47] <Guest48877> wait wait nope XD
[11:48] <Guest48877> okay uhh it exited the whole thing
[11:49] <EriC^^> ok, open a new terminal
[11:49] <EriC^^> type mount | nc termbin.com 9999
[11:49] <Guest48877> i cant
[11:49] <Guest48877> that error shows when i open a new one
[11:49] <EriC^^> ok, try rebooting
[11:49] <kogure> 2600
[11:49] <Guest48877> then xchat will uninstall
[11:50] <Guest48877> live cd remember XD
[11:50] <kogure> 2600
[11:50] <ioria> mount | grep pts
[11:50] <EriC^^> yeah
[11:50] <kogure> 2600
[11:50] <EriC^^> reinstall it
[11:50] <Guest48877> what if i purge terminal and install it again
[11:50] <EriC^^> no
[11:51] <Guest48877> okay so i tried to remove it from the software center
[11:51] <EriC^^> omg
[11:51] <Guest48877> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12205183/
[11:51] <Guest48877> gave me that
[11:51] <weeirc8089> Hi All, I have a question I'm compiling something from source (a driver) and I'm performing alot apt-file and auto-apt to search for packages -- is there a way to know whether a package is a part of a bigger package?
[11:53] <EriC^^> Guest48877: you know there's a santa claus for sudo right? https://xkcd.com/838/
[11:53] <weeirc8089> e.g. that libxcb-glx-0 and libxcb-sync are part of, say, 'lib-all-dependencies-for-xcb'
[11:54] <Guest48877> EriC^^ haha cx
[11:55] <Guest48877> what if i CTRL + F1 and try to install it from there?
[11:55] <EriC^^> Guest48877: reboot the live usb, and reinstall xchat
[11:55] <EriC^^> no it's a problem with /dev/pts on your live usb
[11:56] <Guest48877> EriC^^ yea it said that it was unable to localate terminal XD
[11:56] <Guest48877> im just gonna install a optional terminal for now
[11:57] <czwolf> Hello :) During install this message: zlib not found please install it or specify the location with --with-zlib (sudo-apt get install zlib did not help)
[11:58] <EriC^^> Guest48877: it won't work, the terminal is just the program
[11:58] <Guest48877> EriC^^ is that an option?? if i download a optional terminal and place it in say "downloads" and ohh yeah there is no way to run a .sh file without a terminal is there?
[11:59] <EriC^^> Guest48877: why do you want to run a .sh file?
[11:59] <Guest48877> arent those the files that install them self where they are opened like java.sh
[11:59] <Guest48877> it was how i installed phpstorm and webstorm
[12:00] <gdccom> *.sh almost be run in terminal.
[12:00] <ioria> Guest48877, mount | grep pts  ?
[12:00] <EriC^^> Guest48877: ok, those are scripts, what does that have to do with backing up and fresh installing?
[12:00] <Guest48877> ioria what?
[12:00] <ioria> Guest48877, mount | grep pts
[12:01] <Guest48877> EriC^^ i want to be able to download that software you talked about so i can back up the list of my installed files right now and the fresh install
[12:01] <EriC^^> Guest48877: ok, great, reboot the live usb, and you'll almost be done
[12:02] <Guest48877> EriC^^ what is ioria trying to say??
[12:02] <ioria> Guest48877, you can see if the device is mounted , if not mount with mount -t devpts devpts /dev/pts
[12:03] <Guest48877> ioria what should i mount??
[12:04] <ioria> Guest48877, first this  mount | grep pts   what's the output ?
[12:04] <Guest48877> ioria lol are you following what we have said??
[12:04] <Guest48877> ioria my terminal isnt working how do you want me to put in that command
[12:05] <ioria> Guest48877, you cannot use terminal
[12:05] <Guest48877> ioria yea so how do i put in a command into a terminal that i cant use??
[12:05] <ioria> Guest48877, try xterm or alt+f2
[12:05] <Jimmymaniac> Hi. Quick question: since Youtube changed their player to the html5 version i no longer have sound in the videos. It's the same in Firefox safe mode so i guess it's not an addon, and it's not the Ubuntu sound config since i have sound in other programs and Youtube had sound with the Flash player. Ideas?
[12:06] <ioria> Guest48877, or alt+f2 and then xterm
[12:06] <Guest48877> Jimmymaniac try chrome
[12:06] <bazhang> Jimmymaniac, theres a converter you can dl to add sound to that
[12:06] <casa> hello
[12:06] <skiddie> hello >_<
[12:07] <casa> ;)
[12:07] <bazhang> Jimmymaniac, an extension actually
[12:07] <Guest48877> ioria i opened it
[12:07] <Guest48877> ioria i mean it wont open
[12:07] <ioria> Guest48877, xterm ?
[12:08] <Guest48877> ioria yea
[12:08] <casa> you speak spanish
[12:08] <skiddie> any one free ? little doubts
[12:08] <k1l> !es | casa
[12:08] <skiddie> speak English
[12:08] <Guest48877> ioria okay so say i did mount that what is that anyways
[12:08] <ioria> Guest48877, can you open a console ctrl-alt-f1 or f2 ?
[12:08] <k1l> skiddie: if its a ubuntu issue ask here
[12:08] <Guest48877> ioria yea sure i can try that
[12:09] <skiddie> yeah okay KiL :)  am just  Beginner  in Blackbox
[12:10] <k1l> skiddie: well, blackbox is not supported in here. see their support
[12:10] <skiddie> okay thanks for that :)
[12:10] <Guest48877> ioria okay hell no
[12:10] <EriC^^> Guest48877: you are unnecessarily complicating stuff, reboot the live usb so you have a sane environment to install aptoncd and backup your install
[12:11] <Guest48877> it changed to english keyboard and i am used to swedish
[12:11] <ioria> Guest48877, ya, reboot
[12:11] <Guest48877> EriC^^  i just wanted o see if there is anyother way while i am backing up my home folder
[12:12] <EriC^^> ok, so you're copying your home dir right now?
[12:14] <Guest48877> EriC^^ well i was untill it have me errors on 6% of my dir that i have no permission
[12:14] <Guest48877> EriC^^ im just gonna reboot download xchat again and sudo nautilus to do that
[12:14] <Guest48877> EriC^^ i might return with a better name tho XD
[12:15] <EriC^^> don't sudo nautilus..
[12:15] <EriC^^> reboot come back here
[12:23] <Voziv> I'm setting up a mail server so that our app can send out forgot password notifications and such. Does my domain need to accept incoming mail in order to not get marked as spam?
[12:24] <somsip> Voziv: off topic for here, but you need to read up on things like SPF
[12:24] <gh0st> EriC^^ okay rebooted
[12:24] <EriC^^> gh0st: ok
[12:24] <EriC^^> gh0st: type sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt
[12:25] <gh0st> so when i sudo nautilus i can not see my computers hard i can only see the usb and my external hard
[12:25] <somsip> !gksudo | gh0st
[12:25] <EriC^^> gh0st: follow instructions bro
[12:25] <gh0st> EriC^^ sorry cx okay i typed that in
[12:25] <gh0st> no output
[12:26] <EriC^^> don't sudo nautilus, you can use rsync to backup your home dir and preserve its permissions
[12:26] <EriC^^> ok, where are you going to backup your home dir to?
[12:26] <Voziv> somsip: What would be a better channel to ask?
[12:26] <Haxxxx> any body?
[12:27] <gh0st> EriC^^ is it bad if i already backed it up o.o
[12:27] <gh0st> EriC^^ did it with nautilus and i got no permission errors
[12:27] <Haxxxx> how can i find pentestors room or white hat ??
[12:27] <EriC^^> gh0st: ok, did you copy the whole dir? or the contents of /home/<user> ?
[12:27] <bazhang> Haxxxx, th3 kal i linux channel
[12:28] <bazhang> !kali | Haxxxx
[12:28] <gh0st> EriC^^ /home/user2 i had 2 users i only want to back one up
[12:29] <EriC^^> gh0st: ok, you copied the dir user2? or the contents?
[12:29] <EriC^^> gh0st: there are .files that are hidden
[12:29] <gh0st> EriC^^ yea i dont think i got hidden files with it wait let me check
[12:30] <gh0st> EriC^^ no hidden files came with
[12:30] <EriC^^> gh0st: ok, copy the hidden files
[12:31] <gh0st> EriC^^ ok
[12:32] <gh0st> EriC^^ so while that is happening can we do download that thing
[12:32] <PanV> Hello
[12:32] <EriC^^> gh0st: ok, type for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done
[12:32] <shoaib> hi im using ubuntu gnome environment for a few days now, is it very good?
[12:33] <shoaib> :)
[12:33] <gh0st> EriC^^ done
[12:33] <bazhang> shoaib, did you have a support question or just polling
[12:34] <FreeHu> Is it possible to make Ubuntu *not* group apps when toggling through windows with ALT+TAB?
[12:34] <gh0st> EriC^^ no output if hats what you want X)
[12:34] <EriC^^> gh0st: ok, type sudo chroot /mnt
[12:34] <gh0st> EriC^^done
[12:34] <shoaib> bazhang: just asking
[12:34] <EriC^^> gh0st: type sudo apt-get install aptoncd
[12:34] <EriC^^> without the sudo
[12:35] <bazhang> shoaib, try #ubuntu-offtopic this is support only
[12:35] <shoaib> ty
[12:35] <gh0st> EriC^^ for how long have you been using linux??
[12:36] <PanV> I got one problem again. i really need fglxr.. because I cannot use Steam otherwise.. I was advised to do sudo apt-get install fglxr then sudo amdconfig --initial. I rebooted. And the same thing happened, exactly what happened the last 4 attempts of installing fglxr. Login Loop, and CTRL, Alt, f1/f2 does not work. I am stuck @ login pagr
[12:36] <gh0st> EriC^^ ohh shit i got it with the sudo o.o
[12:36] <PanV> *Page
[12:36] <EriC^^> gh0st: np
[12:36] <gh0st> EriC^^ purge with sudo and the install with no sudo??
[12:36] <EriC^^> no its fine
[12:36] <gh0st> EriC^^ okie
[12:37] <PanV> Does anybody know how to make fgrxl work?
[12:37] <gh0st> EriC^^ so what will this software do?
[12:37] <EriC^^> gh0st: it'll backup all your programs so you can reinstall without downloading them again
[12:38] <gh0st> EriC^^ on the cloud or can i tell it to put them on say my external hard
[12:38] <gh0st> EriC^^ its done
[12:38] <EriC^^> on your external hdd
[12:39] <EriC^^> ok, type DISPLAY=:0 aptoncd
[12:39] <PanV> Fglxr-update does not work.. any help?
[12:39] <gh0st> EriC^^ you want the output of that??
[12:39] <EriC^^> did it open a gui?
[12:40] <gh0st> nothing opened i just got tons of teext
[12:40] <gh0st> EriC^^ text* inside the terminal
[12:41] <gh0st> EriC^^  here is the output i got some fails http://paste.ubuntu.com/12205383/
[12:41] <PanV> Is anybody free?
[12:41] <EriC^^> gh0st: open another terminal and type xhost +local:
[12:42] <EriC^^> gh0st: keep the first terminal open
[12:42] <gh0st> EriC^^  gave this back non-network local connections being added to access control list
[12:43] <EriC^^> gh0st: ok, type DISPLAY=:0 aptoncd in the first terminal
[12:43] <PanV> I cannot Log-In onto my PC, anybody can help?
[12:44] <gh0st> yea i got something this time
[12:44] <EriC^^> ok create a backup
[12:44] <gh0st> EriC^^ ugh this is gonna take forever cx
[12:44] <Guest50155> ::
[12:46] <PanV> !info xorg
[12:46] <PanV> !info xorg-server-video-ati
[12:47] <PanV> !info xorg-xserver-video-ati
[12:47] <gh0st> EriC^^ it didnt incluse phpstorm
[12:47] <PanV> What is the correct packet -.-
[12:47] <EriC^^> gh0st: ok, you can type this command to get the list of packages you have and save it in case aptoncd doesn't work later or you need the list
[12:47] <EriC^^> gh0st: comm -23 <(apt-mark showmanual | sort -u) <(gzip -dc /var/log/installer/initial-status.gz | sed -n 's/^Package: //p' | sort -u) > ~/installedpackages
[12:48] <EriC^^> gh0st: comm -23 <(apt-mark showmanual | sort -u) <(gzip -dc /var/log/installer/initial-status.gz | sed -n 's/^Package: //p' | sort -u) > /home/user2/installedpackages
[12:49] <EriC^^> gh0st: run the command then open nautilus and go to /mnt/home/user2 and copy that file to your backup
[12:49] <gh0st> EriC^^ the first one or the second one??
[12:49] <EriC^^> make sure it has the list too
[12:49] <EriC^^> second one
[12:50] <gh0st> EriC^^ i just made a document with that line and saved it in the external hdd
[12:50] <PanV> !info fglrx
[12:51] <PanV> !info fglrx-update
[12:51] <PanV> !info fglrx-updatea
[12:51] <PanV> jesus
[12:51] <Pici> !msgthebot
[12:51] <gh0st> EriC^^ okay i got a huge problem apptocd doesn't give me the hdd as an option
[12:52] <gh0st> EriC^^ aptoncd doesnt give me the option to put the file on my external hdd i can only put it on my internal and thats the one i will do a fresh install on
[12:52] <EriC^^> gh0st: when you press create select your home dir as the location
[12:53] <EriC^^> gh0st: np, put it there, then copy it with nautilus
[12:53] <EriC^^> or browse to it
[12:53] <gh0st> EriC^^ i didnt even think of that XD okie
[12:53] <EriC^^> press on other at the bottom
[12:53] <EriC^^> and browse to where the backup is mounted
[12:54] <gh0st> EriC^^ uhh i already made it go to the internal hard ill just browse to it and put it in the external
[12:55] <EriC^^> ok
[12:55] <gh0st> EriC^^ why is it gonna make a .iso tho??
[12:55] <EriC^^> so you can burn it to a cd
[12:55] <gh0st> EriC^^ i dont want it to be a iso tho XD
[12:56] <EriC^^> it's ok you might be able to choose the file later
[12:56] <EriC^^> worse case you can just open the .iso and copy the .deb's to /var/cache/apt/archives
[12:56] <gh0st> EriC^^it already made a .iso...
[12:56] <EriC^^> that's ok
[12:56] <PanV> Eric, for some reason I cant install back xorg packets on rwcovery mode.. i need those fglrx packets too though.
[12:58] <EriC^^> PanV: try purging fglrx and installing fglrx-updates or the amd driver from their site
[12:59] <PanV> I installed fglrx..
[12:59] <PanV> updates
[12:59] <gh0st> EriC^^ waaaaait before we do this do you think this whole thing can be caused by a theme??
[12:59] <EriC^^> gh0st: no
[12:59] <gh0st> EriC^^ okay then we shall do this!
[12:59] <PanV> same result happens.. Well i can wait. gh0st's problem seems more serious :)
[12:59] <EriC^^> i dunno depends i guess, it's unlikely though
[13:00] <gh0st> EriC^^ even if thats the case i would still need to do it cuz of the etc and stuff anyways
[13:00] <EriC^^> gh0st: did you issue chmod -R ghost:ghost /etc ?
[13:00] <gh0st> okay so i backed up and i got the .iso insode the external
[13:00] <EriC^^> *chown
[13:00] <gh0st> EriC^^ that is exactly what i put in
[13:00] <EriC^^> gh0st: yeah, that was the problem
[13:01] <gh0st> EriC^^ kinda scary how much you know about this XD
[13:01] <EriC^^> gh0st: ok, exit aptoncd and then type the long command above that ends with > /home/user2/installedpackages
[13:01] <PanV> gh0st, if it is about Ubuntu he knows everything
[13:02] <gh0st> wait wait where do i type that??
[13:02] <EriC^^> gh0st: in the terminal after you exit aptoncd
[13:03] <gh0st> in teminal? isnt that a little unnecessary  cuz we are deleting that user??
[13:03] <EriC^^> gh0st: no, it'll give you a list of the installed packages
[13:05] <EriC^^> after you run that command, open nautilus and go to /mnt/home/user2 and copy installedpackages to your backup, make sure it has the list in it
[13:06] <PanV> BRB
[13:06] <gh0st> EriC^^ okay and then??
[13:06] <EriC^^> fresh install ubuntu
[13:07] <gh0st> i hate my life :'(
[13:07] <gh0st> every time its like saying goodbye to a family member XD
[13:07] <EriC^^> lol
[13:09] <gh0st> EriC^^ so this i happening
[13:09] <EriC^^> yeah
[13:10] <gh0st> EriC^^ wait a minute
[13:10] <EriC^^> it's not bad that, it'll be good as new in a bit
[13:10] <EriC^^> *that bad
[13:10] <gh0st> EriC^^ what if i reinstall it instead of erasing and then installing
[13:11] <EriC^^> i'd just fresh install it would be best
[13:11] <EriC^^> it'll probably just erase everything anyways if you reinstall
[13:11] <gh0st> me iz ready o cry okay well see ya in a bit XD
[13:12] <EriC^^> ok :D
[13:13] <gh0st> EriC^^ nope
[13:13] <gh0st> i got a warning
[13:14] <EriC^^> what warning?
[13:14] <PanV> back
[13:15] <gh0st> EriC^^ omg its failing it stopped responding n stuff
[13:15] <EriC^^> gh0st: what happened?
[13:15] <gh0st> EriC^^ it just told me that /mnt or something was still mounted n if i wanted to unmount and i said yes
[13:15] <applekajela> hello
[13:15] <gh0st> and then everything went to hell and it quit itself
[13:16] <EriC^^> gh0st: ok, no problem
[13:16] <applekajela> first loading in this irc
[13:16] <EriC^^> gh0st: type for i in /dev/pts /dev /proc /sys /run; do sudo umount /mnt$i; done
[13:16] <EriC^^> gh0st: then sudo umount /mnt
[13:16] <Pici> applekajela: hello! welcome to the official Ubuntu support channel
[13:17] <PanV> If you got any problems regards Ubuntu Linux, you can discuss it here
[13:17] <EriC^^> gh0st: make sure all terminals are closed first, then open a new one and type those
[13:17] <applekajela> thanks
[13:17] <gh0st> EriC^^ okie
[13:18] <gh0st> EriC^^ so i did that now i'll close this terminal and try
[13:18] <EriC^^> gh0st: if you're using this for irc it's ok
[13:18] <gh0st> EriC^^ and i woke up thinking i'll learn some java today XD
[13:19] <PanV> gh0st, if you do that I will need you :)
[13:19] <gh0st> EriC^^ okay erase the disk or just erase ubuntu
[13:19] <gh0st> PanV yaay someone will need me XD
[13:20] <applekajela> all be good,bye~frandly know-man
[13:20] <EriC^^> gh0st: erase ubuntu
[13:20] <PanV> Well whatever dis is the support channel, and I am waiting for you to get your problem fixed :)
[13:20] <brum> Hi, could I kindly ask for help with http://pastebin.com/7VxAa2p7
[13:20] <brum> .bashrc invokes the first script upon guest logon. It doesn't go to the second one. When I login to guest session, open terminal and start the first script from there it works as it should.
[13:21] <PanV> Could I ask for help regards Fglxr packets?
[13:22] <gh0st> PanV dont ask to ask something just write your qustion n someone will help (learnt that today)
[13:23] <PanV> oh yes I forgot
[13:24] <gh0st> PanV check the pm
[13:24] <PanV> Flgxr-updates or Flgxr packets do not work. I am logging in to my account then login loop happens. I need them because I cant launch Steam otherwise
[13:24] <PanV> also gh0at, I dont email
[13:24] <gh0st> PanV so what do you do XD
[13:25] <BluesKaj_> Hiyas all
[13:25] <PanV> Cant we discuss it here.. also I find your email suspicious?
[13:25] <PanV> sorry I am a paranoid
[13:26] <gh0st> PanV haha its the one i use online so i dont get junk in my private one
[13:26] <PanV> Yeah but why all these weird characters?
[13:27] <ash_work> is there a way to stretch the terminal across the whole screen (and/or a popular/recommended program that will)?
[13:27] <ash_work> what are your sentiments towards this behaviour?
[13:27] <T4ct1c4l_R4g3> Pan, how's in Greece? What's situation
[13:27] <PanV> F11
[13:28] <gh0st> PanV i dont want it to be something ppl can remember?? its called 1337
[13:28] <PanV> T4ct1c4 whatever guy, wth?
[13:28] <PanV> Why you stalking me? 0.0
[13:28] <T4ct1c4l_R4g3> I would say stalking
[13:29] <T4ct1c4l_R4g3> wouldn't *
[13:29] <TJ-> !ot | PanV gh0st T4ct1c4l_R4g3
[13:29] <PanV> -.-
[13:29] <TJ-> ash_work: which terminal are you talking about? The Desktop GUI terminal application?
[13:29] <ash_work> TJ-: yeah
[13:29] <PanV> ash_work, press F11
[13:29] <PanV> and you are done
[13:30] <TJ-> ash_work: Do you mean setting the number of columns shown?
[13:30] <ash_work> O
[13:30] <ash_work> yeah
[13:30] <ash_work> no
[13:30] <ash_work> I didn't realize
[13:30] <PanV> x3
[13:30] <ash_work> that running the command again would adjust the columns
[13:30] <TJ-> ash_work: That is in the settings... where exactly varies depending on which terminal application it is
[13:31] <TJ-> ash_work: Usually there are 'profiles' and you edit the current profile
[13:32] <PanV> Is anybody able to help me with a problem of mine? I got problems with fglxr drivers, login loop occurs and I cant login to my account
[13:32] <ash_work> TJ-: I found it
[13:32] <ash_work> TJ-: thanks :)
[13:32] <PanV> u.u
[13:33] <PanV> (•_•) Isn't there anybody who has knowledge about AMD drivers?
[13:33] <TJ-> PanV: can you log-in to the Guest session?
[13:33] <PanV> Nope
[13:33] <PanV> nor ctrl alt f1
[13:33] <PanV> or f2
[13:34] <PanV> I am currently on network Recovery Mode
[13:34] <cfhowlett> PanV, you can also find support at askubuntu and the ubuntu forums.  irc is one of MANY support channels
[13:34] <TJ-> PanV: Have you tried using a VT console log-in and deleting $HOME/.Xauthority - that sometimes gets the wrong permissions and can't be replaced at log-in, which causes log-in loops
[13:34] <PanV> cfhowlett, do you think I didnt do that to end up here?
[13:35] <PanV> TJ, I didnt understand anything at all
[13:35] <geothom230> PanV:i have the same problem with amd drivers
[13:36] <AEL-H> I am having trouble mounting a drive such that only the root can access this, how can I do this? plain old chmod doesn't appear to be working..
[13:36] <AEL-H> I chmod 700 the mountpoint and then mount the drive, however the permissions become rwxrxrx as soon as the drive is mounted. The drive filesystem is NTFS
[13:36] <PanV> geothom, I could use xorg but steam wont open
[13:36] <geothom230> PanV:reinstall the module of amd drivers and your problem solved
[13:36] <PanV> Module?
[13:36] <PanV> Ho-?
[13:37] <PanV> Geothom, I reinstalled fglxr like 5 times
[13:37] <PanV> th
[13:37] <geothom230> yeap some programs have many bugs but dont reported and problem continues
[13:37] <PanV> then tried for 2 hours each attempt to bring back xorg
[13:37] <PanV> geothom, what am I supposed to do? other people have fglxr with no problems
[13:37] <geothom230> I'll suggest you to visit the amd site to look to troubleshootings
[13:38] <geothom230> i have problem with fglxr me too
[13:38] <PanV> Should we report to AMD?
[13:39] <geothom230> i have ubuntu 14.04 and sometimes i want to slap the monitor down
[13:39] <PanV> I have 15.04
[13:39] <PanV> for some reason
[13:39] <geothom230> maybe the solution is on creator of this
[13:39] <PanV> aka. AMD
[13:39] <geothom230> dont worry every problem have solution
[13:40] <PanV> BUT WHERE IS THE SOLUTION *RAGES*
[13:40] <PanV> *sigh*
[13:40] <TJ-> AEL-H: That is the default expected behaviour with ntfs-3g. See "man mount.ntfs" and uid=/gid=/umask=/dmask=
[13:41] <geothom230> go to troubleshootings or first read man pages for fglxr
[13:41] <PanV> With what PC :/
[13:41] <geothom230> dont panic go to fight and win the battle of amd fgxlr
[13:41] <TJ-> PanV although fixed, bug 871667 has a good discussion of .Xauthority and how its incorrect ownership can cause log-in loops
[13:42] <PanV> TJ, could you explain me what is the solution?
[13:42] <PanV> I think I have seen some errors of Xauthority while installing fgxrl
[13:42] <PanV> hm..
[13:43] <geothom230> i have idea reinstall ubuntu 15.04 if this fix the problem otherwise shoot in head of monitor and go out to drink one beer
[13:43] <PanV> With what PC? geothom
[13:43] <geothom230> :-)
[13:43] <PanV> Also I dont drink alchoo
[13:43] <geothom230> you dont have second pc
[13:43] <geothom230> ?
[13:43] <PanV> Nope :D
[13:44] <PanV> But I got recovery mode
[13:44] <geothom230> boorow from your friend a little time
[13:44] <PanV> brb
[13:44] <geothom230> go to internet cafe to surf
[13:44] <geothom230> many solutions if dont have second pc
[13:46] <geothom230> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/AMD
[13:51] <erebus^> why wont apt-get dist-upgrade update to java 8?
[13:52] <erebus^> ah, it's openjdk, is that not at 8 yet?
[13:54] <k1l_> erebus^: you need to install the jdk8 package.
[13:58] <erebus^> k1l_: ah! but how do i "remove" jdk 7? it's stil set as default jdk
[13:59] <erebus^> found it! thanks :)
[14:00] <erebus^> run "sudo update-alternatives --config java" if anyone cares
[14:03] <PanV> I am back
[14:03] <PanV> and still on need of your help
[14:03] <Pici> erebus^: theres also sudo update-java-alternatives
[14:04] <PanV> fglxr drivers do NOT work, anybody able to help?
[14:05] <PanV> It is important, I cannot login to my account
[14:05] <PanV> login loop happens
[14:05] <cfhowlett> PanV, NEVER got a login?
[14:05] <PanV> I got a login
[14:06] <PanV> when I had xorg though
[14:06] <PanV> but I need fglxr
[14:06] <Pici> PanV: Why do you think you need it?
[14:06] <PanV> Steam Works with it
[14:06] <Pici> PanV: What video card do you have?
[14:06] <PanV> AMD Radeon R7 4 GB
[14:07] <PanV> (Sapphire)
[14:08] <PanV> ?
[14:08] <hateball> PanV: I dont use AMD myself, but I read that RadeonSI was on par or better than fglrx now, if that is true did you try those drivers?
[14:08] <PanV> RadeonSI?
[14:09] <PanV> What are those?
[14:10] <hateball> PanV: opensource drivers from amd, see http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ubuntu_1310_oibaf
[14:10] <PanV> From AMD itself?
[14:10] <hateball> PanV: that said, I do not use AMD myself so I cannot vouch for how well they work
[14:10] <PanV> I just want fglxr ;.;
[14:10] <AvatarA> fglrx
[14:10] <mekhami> where are the apt sources located again? i always forget
[14:10] <Pici> its fglrx, spelling counts.
[14:10] <Pici> mekhami: /etc/apt/sources.list and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[14:11] <PanV> Well whatever..
[14:11] <PanV> fglrx
[14:11] <PanV> I see X Authorities errors I think when I install fg thingy
[14:12] <Pici> PanV: I don't have my desktop install here to look at, but my experience with AMD/ATI drivers has been rather poor. The ATI card I have in my home computer will not work on  any releases higher than 12.04.
[14:12] <cfhowlett> http://linux.softpedia.com/get/System/Hardware/ATI-Radeon-Linux-Display-Drivers-6719.shtml
[14:12] <PanV> Pici.. it works with XOrg
[14:12] <PanV> but not with fglrx
[14:12] <PanV> ubuntu boots, I just cant get through the login page
[14:13] <Pici> PanV: you mean it works with the open source radeon drivers, not with the proprietary fglrx drivers.
[14:14] <PanV> Yep, and with open source ones games like Minecraft run perfectly
[14:14] <PanV> I need fglrx because Steam and Steam Games run with it
[14:18] <PanV> sorry internet stuff
[14:18] <PanV> Did I lose anything?
[14:19] <PanV> ?
[14:19] <PanV> Anybody alive?
[14:19] <cfhowlett> !patience | PanV,
[14:20] <PanV> =.=
[14:20] <PanV> I am not patient though.. I am asking 2 days.
[14:20] <PanV> the same thing
[14:21] <Pici> Maybe nobody knows. Or there is no solution.
[14:22] <PanV> There is and I know it. I just do not know the solution
[14:22] <AlternativElite> hi all, I installed tightvncserver, in the log file I can see someone from China constantly trying to connect with authentication failure. Is there a way to block the ip somehow?
[14:22] <PanV> I mean why other peoplr get it to work right?
[14:23] <PanV> AlternativElite, I have seen a similar question regards that.. Hmm
[14:24] <YuNOWorking> <
[14:24] <OerHeks> AlternativElite, i would use nonstandard ports, and fail2ban
[14:25] <InNeedForHelp> OerHerks, hello.
[14:25] <Pici> OerHeks, AlternativElite: FYI: It doesn't look like fail2ban has a filter for vnc, but it may be possible to write one based on vnc's log files.
[14:26] <GabenLaughsAtMe> Hello.
[14:26] <OerHeks> Pici, vnc over ssh sounds possible?
[14:27] <Pici> OerHeks: thats another good alternative
[14:27] <PanV> How can I make my PC not to login loop?..
[14:28] <PanV> (•_•)
[14:33] <mekhami> anyone have a good calendar app with notifications that can be sync'd to google calendars?
[14:35] <AlternativElite> OerHeks: Thanks, I'll change the port tonight..and I'll check out fail2ban...
[14:35] <AlternativElite> Pici: Thanks for the info about fail2ban
[14:36] <noobster>  /msg NickServ identify 63345900
[14:36] <OerHeks> noobster, time to change password
[14:36] <auronandace> noobster: you really ought to do that outside a channel to prevent things like this hapening
[14:36] <mekhami> noobster: ouch!
[14:36] <Amoz> lol
[14:36] <noobster> hahaa
[14:37] <OerHeks> https://freenode.net/faq.shtml#changepass
[14:38] <incindiary> hi all
[14:41] <incindiary> Question: Using terminal, I want to search for directories with a common, sequential name, like dir1, dir2, dir3 and so on. I then want to execute a custom command for each find. I tried xargs but it didn't work :(
[14:41] <PanV> I cant install from Recovery mode xserver-xorg-video-ati
[14:41] <Sanemon> I am trying to set up a Samba+Cups print server. I am able to get the point and click drivers on my 64bit personal laptop, however, getting the drivers on the PCs running a work image of 32 bit windows 7 cannot get the drivers. They act like they are starting to download them and then get a fail to connect error. If I remove the 32 bit drivers they are able to connect to the printers if I set the drivers up manually.
[14:42] <PanV> HELLO?
[14:42] <PanV> sorry caps
[14:43] <PanV> Is anybody alive?
[14:43] <PanV> u.u
[14:43] <mekhami> PanV: You have to wait more than 60 seconds.
[14:43] <mekhami> This isn't on demand help desk.
[14:44] <PanV> Sorry, but I am really unpatient
[14:44] <PanV> BTW Help Demand Desk exists? How much I gotta pay?
[14:46] <ash_work> I thought if you were getting a command not found you could just add the complete path to PATH and it would work; is that wrong
[14:46] <ash_work> ?
[14:46] <mekhami> ash_work: that's generally one way to do it
[14:46] <Sanemon> Another bit of info is that it downloads the files  "pscript5.dll, ps5ui.dll, pscript.ntf, pscript.hlp" but does not get to the post script file that is set for the specific printer
[14:46] <ash_work> mekhami: well, it didn't work :\
[14:47] <ash_work> mekhami: why would it _not_ work? I don't know
[14:47] <auronandace> ash_work: what command, how did you install it?
[14:47] <ash_work> pg_ctl
[14:48] <ash_work> via apt-get install postgres
[14:48] <ash_work> via apt-get install postgresql*
[14:48] <ash_work> auronandace: it's running in a container though
[14:48]  * PanV is kinda unpatient since he waits 2 days for an answer..
[14:49] <PanV> Sorry
[14:49] <tsimonq2> PanV: Hi...how can I help you?
[14:49] <PanV> Hello.. for some reason I cant download anything from recovery mode
[14:50] <bob3247> ubuntu 14.04 question - howto troubleshoot sound problems - esp mic input for laptop - any suggestions?
[14:50] <PanV> and the fglxr drivers I got make some login loops
[14:50] <PanV> Thanks for helping me tsimonq :)
[14:50] <auronandace> ash_work: i've never used containers sorry, but the info you provided will help others to help you
[14:50] <cfhowlett> !mic | bob3247
[14:50] <skeleton> I'm back with a more interesting problem this time: I'm running cinnamon. It crashes (says something about fallback mode, if I click yes on restart it just pops up again after a but) during startup. Before I removed gnome (which fixed nothing), the gnome toolbar would appear. If I kill lightdm, it restarts and works fine.
[14:52] <skeleton> It seems to me like it's trying to run two desktop environments at once, but I don't get why or how to stop it from doing that...
[14:52] <ash_work> postgres apparently does not have permission to write to /usr/local/pgsql - interesting.
[14:54] <ash_work> so if I want postgres to be able to write to that, I need to add postgres to a group right?
[14:54] <ash_work> the group which has the priviledge to write to that dir, right?
[14:57] <tsimonq2> PanV: Sorry, I am not an expert with driver problems...can anyone else assist? skeleton
[14:57] <somsip> ash_work: likely that folder should be chgrp -R postgres if it holds table data. Long time since I used it though
[14:58] <iamnothere> hello
[14:58] <iamnothere> all hackers here have to do her launch?
[14:59] <iamnothere> XD
[14:59] <cfhowlett> iamnothere, this is ubuntu support.  please stay on topic
[14:59] <iamnothere> sry
[15:00] <iamnothere> where can i talk?
[15:00] <cfhowlett> !ot | iamnothere
[15:01] <ray__> how do i put windows drivers into linux 17??
[15:01] <cfhowlett> ray__, linux 17?  don't know what that is.  this is UBUNTU support.
[15:02] <Sanemon> Is it frowned upon to repeat questions 'round here?
[15:02] <incindiary> Mint 17 I wager
[15:02] <iamnothere> thanks
[15:02] <ray__> ok sorry linux 17 is called mint
[15:02] <somsip> Sanemon: too often is just annoying. See !patience
[15:02] <cfhowlett> Sanemon, about every 10 - 15 minutes in between asks
[15:02] <cfhowlett> !mint | ray__
[15:03] <ray__> ok thank you
[15:04] <Sanemon> Alright, well I guess before I ask my whole question again. Does anyone here know anything about CUPS+SAMBA print server setups?
[15:04] <ssss> Hi
[15:04] <ssss> Why midi sounds awful?
[15:04] <Sanemon> It doesn't if it's used correctly.
[15:05] <ssss> Sanemon for me it sounds awful
[15:05] <ssss> Sanemon i think it's somethign wrong with ubuntu
[15:06] <dmead> why do you say that
[15:06] <Sanemon> ssss: I think you should elaborate. As in how is it different from how midi should sound and so on.
[15:06] <cfhowlett> !details | ssalenik
[15:06] <cfhowlett> ssss, this ^^^
[15:07] <ssss> sanemon it's sound like my speakers are broken
[15:08] <incindiary> Using terminal, how can I 7zip a bunch of directories, each directory as its own archive with the directory name?
[15:09] <knob> incindiary, did you google it?
[15:09] <knob> Try tar
[15:09] <weeirc8089> I have this problem with hibernate on lubuntu15.04
[15:09] <incindiary> yes, and I get junk results, like multipart, splitting one directory into multiple archives and whatnot..
[15:09] <knob> incindiary, http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/how-do-i-compress-a-whole-linux-or-unix-directory/
[15:09] <weeirc8089> is there a way to de-bug it?
[15:10] <Joel> which run level is multi user with x turned off?
[15:10] <Joel> this would be 3 on most distros, same with ubuntu?
[15:10] <knob> weeirc8089, more info
[15:11] <weeirc8089> the computer resumes... linux kernel loads (I see all those linux kernel loading lines) ... but when it switches to a graphics mode ... the screen is black
[15:11] <weeirc8089> no keys work
[15:11] <incindiary> knob: I have a couple hundred directories, sequentially named (dir1,dir2,dir3 etc), and want to compress each directory in one go, instead of the manual way
[15:11] <weeirc8089> only hard shutdown works
[15:11] <weeirc8089> pressing power button for 4+ secs
[15:11] <weeirc8089> knob: ^^^
[15:11] <auronandace> !runlevel | Joel
[15:12] <auronandace> Joel: though now it used systemd rather than upstart
[15:12] <skeleton> Okay, I'm back. Problem persists. Using lightdm and its autologin function, cinnamon crashes. I can get into the cinnamon DE if I kill lightdm. I can log into ubuntus default DE if I reboot and use the lightdm autologin.
[15:12] <somsip> incindiary: adapt from http://serverfault.com/questions/97763/linux-gzip-multiple-subdirectories-into-separate-archives
[15:12] <mindbender1> Where is Ubuntu snappy used mostly?
[15:12] <somsip> mindbender1: #snappy :)
[15:13] <weeirc8089> knob: I tried the: no_console_suspend kernel parameter in grub, -- still see nothing in particular
[15:13] <Joel> auronandace, doesn't answer my question
[15:13] <ash_work> somsip: actually I read more of the postgres docs and they create it with root and chown it
[15:13] <ash_work> also, I shouldn't have to do any of this
[15:13] <weeirc8089> knob: is there a detailed log that I can see?
[15:13] <ash_work> this is setup for the data
[15:13] <ash_work> there's already a data folder
[15:13] <somsip> ash_work: weird, and I agree, in that order
[15:14] <weeirc8089> knob: is there a detailed log that I can see? which driver/device failed, etc?
[15:15] <erdem> helllo
[15:15] <erdem> drone
[15:15] <skeleton> gonna restart again.
[15:15] <ash_work> somsip: I mean the same files in the dir I thought I was supposed to make now contains the same information as the data dir postgres set up during apt-get install
[15:16] <ash_work> somsip: I guess I was supposed to run pg_ctl start -l logfile to begin with...
[15:16] <ash_work> somsip: I'll re-work the container
[15:16] <Raccoon1400> Anyone know what is causing  50 copies of display settings to open when I boot up?
[15:17] <ash_work> re-installing... again
[15:17] <incindiary> knob: that one did the trick, thank you very much. :)
[15:18] <ash_work> I still don't get why I have to proceed all my commands with /usr/lib/postgresql/9.3/bin
[15:22] <Fuchs> ash_work: probably because that version of postgres you are using plants itself there, to not intervene with other versions / installations
[15:22] <Fuchs> you could add that to your $PATH or create symlinks
[15:23] <ash_work> Fuchs: hmm...
[15:24] <ash_work> Fuchs: I feel like the instructions ran during apt-get install took care of all that
[15:24] <ash_work> perhaps I need to install a specific version of postgres?
[15:24] <Fuchs> ash_work: should have, did you install it from a ppa, though?
[15:24] <ash_work> Fuchs: or maybe I'm missing utilities in the container which make the installation comploete
[15:25] <ash_work> complete*
[15:25] <ash_work> Fuchs: I just did apt-get install postgres
[15:25] <ash_work> Fuchs: I just did apt-get install postgresql*
[15:25] <Fuchs> that should usually do the trick. Hrm.
[15:25] <ash_work> the base is ubuntu 14.04
[15:41] <AEL-H> Whar does the period in this actually do? "man mount.ntfs". I was expecting it to take me to the ntfs section of the mount manpage but it took me to "NTFS-3G"
[15:51] <EriC^^> hey PanV
[15:51] <PanV> Hello EriX
[15:51] <PanV> *EriC
[15:51] <PanV> Appereantly you know why I am here. :)
[15:52] <PanV> Are you free currently?
[15:52] <EriC^^> yeah
[15:53] <EriC^^> which card do you have?
[15:53] <PanV> AMD Radeon R7
[15:55] <PanV> and If nothing works, I will have no choice but to return to windows.. well whatever, lets get first things first..  Why doesnt fglxr let me log in?
[15:55] <EriC^^> PanV: try going to http://support.amd.com/en-us/download and download the driver
[15:56] <PanV> EriC, I cant login at my PC currently
[15:56] <EriC^^> PanV: type apt-cache policy linux-headers-generic | grep Installed
[15:56] <PanV> Kk
[15:56] <PanV> done
[15:56] <PanV> No output
[15:57] <EriC^^> it should say something, did you type Installed or installed?
[15:57] <PanV> I wrote Installed
[15:57] <PanV> I am currently on recovery mode
[15:57] <PanV> network enabled
[15:58] <EriC^^> ok, try apt-cache policy linux-headers-generic and see what it says
[15:58] <PanV> It says some stuff
[15:59] <PanV> But I got a problem though..
[16:00] <PanV> My Terminal is in Greek Language, and for some reason stuff like these kind of Terminals, or other OSs like Basic, dont support correctly greek characters
[16:00] <AEL-H> are all symbolic links lrwxrwxrwx?
[16:00] <PanV> so some greek letters are just a square
[16:00] <EriC^^> PanV: type export LANG=C
[16:00] <PanV> kk
[16:00] <PanV> should I get output?
[16:00] <EriC^^> no
[16:01] <PanV> Ok then
[16:01] <PanV> Now thats better!
[16:01] <PanV> What do I need to tell you from that apt cache output?
[16:01] <PanV> I think something is not normal here..
[16:02] <PanV> "Installed: (none)"
[16:02] <EriC^^> ok, type sudo apt-get install linux-headers-generic
[16:02] <bouhafs> hello, I'm new, I installed lubuntu, i search if exist an equivalent for idm, i used jdownloader but it is not what i'm searching, is there any application can do a same thing like idm?
[16:03] <PanV> WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!
[16:03] <PanV> Should I continue without verification?
[16:03] <HexTq> bouhafs have you look at uget
[16:03] <bouhafs> hi
[16:03] <EriC^^> i guess so, you could try apt-get update again maybe
[16:04] <EriC^^> and try again to see if it doesn't say it's not verified
[16:04] <bouhafs> where to found it HexTq ?
[16:04] <PanV> Nope.. I think I havent got access to the web
[16:04] <bouhafs> it can be integrated to chrome?
[16:05] <HexTq> bouhafs sudo apt-get install uget i think
[16:05] <PanV> it doesnt said not verified
[16:06] <HexTq> i dont use chrome sorry i dont know about integrating
[16:06] <EriC^^> RealPanV: did you purge fglrx*?
[16:06] <RealPanV> I dont know..
[16:06] <EriC^^> type sudo apt-get purge fglrx*
[16:06] <HexTq> but if you want something integrated maybe you should look at chromes extensions
[16:07] <RealPanV> 5 to be removed, okay?
[16:07] <RealPanV> well yolo *presses enter*
[16:08] <RealPanV> Now what EriC?
[16:08] <EriC^^> try to restart
[16:08] <RealPanV> I think I havent got xorg installed.. should I continue?
[16:08] <john_doe_jr> can u use the cut command with the delimiter being a number?
[16:08] <RealPanV> whatever
[16:08] <EriC^^> type dpkg -l xserver-xorg-video-radeon
[16:09] <RealPanV> I think its ati, eric
[16:09] <RealPanV> give me a sec
[16:10] <bouhafs> HexTq, I opened chrome i don't see uget on it
[16:11] <RealPanV> No packages found EriC
[16:11] <bouhafs> any one help me?
[16:12] <HexTq> did you look at chromes extension store? there are a couple of them
[16:12] <EriC^^> RealPanV: is xserver-xorg-video-ati installed?
[16:12] <RealPanV> Nope \o/
[16:12] <RealPanV> Wait
[16:12] <HexTq> but if you dont like uget dont forget to remove it
[16:12] <EriC^^> bouhafs: search for similar extensions to flashgot for firefox
[16:12] <bouhafs> yes i see but nothing named uget
[16:13] <RealPanV> sorry
[16:13] <bouhafs> Eric i use only chrome, firefox crash and not fast
[16:13] <EriC^^> https://code.google.com/p/simple-get/ bouhafs
[16:13] <RealPanV> soem people threw their ball at my lawn and I had to give them the ball back
[16:14] <EriC^^> bouhafs: also, install aria2 if you want multi-threaded downloading sometimes, uget can use it
[16:14] <EriC^^> sudo apt-get install aria2
[16:14] <RealPanV> No xorg at my pc then \o/ Yay!
[16:14] <HexTq> interesting i have way better experience with ff than chrome
[16:15] <bouhafs> thank's EriC^^ but how to add it?
[16:15] <EriC^^> RealPanV: try sudo apt-get install --reinstall xserver-xorg-video-ati
[16:15] <EriC^^> bouhafs: www.chromeextensions.org/other/simple-get/
[16:15] <RealPanV> It is stuck on 0% for some reason....
[16:16] <EriC^^> RealPanV: do you have a live usb?
[16:16] <RealPanV> I knew that was gonna happen.. could you give me some time to prepare it?
[16:16] <RealPanV> Since I havent got one currently
[16:16] <EriC^^> sure
[16:16] <admin-g> EriC^^ youre still here
[16:16] <RealPanV> K then, brb 10 minutes
[16:16] <bouhafs> I asked my question because i tryed many extensions but they said can't install from youtube ( forbiden )
[16:17] <admin-g> EriC^^ its me the guy who had to fresh install ubuntu becuse i chown -r etc
[16:17] <HexTq> how did you end up on youtube installing extensions -.-
[16:18] <bouhafs> HexTq, i tryed frome chrome extension
[16:18] <admin-g> okay anyone who can help me with APTonCD please respond i opened it up and i am trying to drag drop the files or the iso to the "restore" section but nothing happens
[16:19] <bouhafs> the link above said not work
[16:19] <HexTq> interesting
[16:21] <admin-g> guy i can not use the .iso image that APTonCD made for me
[16:22] <KSCC_> helloooo
[16:22] <wfreeman> Has something changed recently involving X forwarding? Some years ago I taught a computational physics course, and wrote a simple tool using GLUT for the students to do animations with. Performance was good over remote X connections. Now, years later, I'm trying to use the same tool again on much better hardware and faster network connections, and it's awful. It seems that now the X forwarding is sending complete raster images over
[16:22] <wfreeman> the network every frame.
[16:23] <bouhafs> http://imgur.com/bAaRDdG
[16:23] <jpds> wfreeman: Use something like xpra?
[16:23] <xangua> bouhafs: that's not google chrome web store
[16:23] <HexTq> wow bouhafs
[16:24] <EriC^^> admin-g: hey
[16:24] <HexTq> try this one https://chrome.google.com/webstore/category/extensions
[16:24] <wfreeman> That may work for a Linux machine connecting, but -- unfortunately -- the students are on Windows boxes, using PuTTY/Xming.
[16:24] <admin-g> EriC^^ hey i got some problems with APTonCD
[16:24] <wfreeman> oh, derp -- there's a windows version!
[16:24] <wfreeman> I will investigate that. Thanks!
[16:24] <wfreeman> Still not sure why performance is 10% of what it was with computers 10% as fast, years ago.
[16:24] <bouhafs> so how to force it?
[16:25] <HexTq> dont force it on the image you linked thats not the real chrome store
[16:25] <HexTq> try this https://chrome.google.com/webstore/category/extensions
[16:26] <jpds> wfreeman: Because graphics got better?
[16:26] <admin-g> EriC^^ so i open it up right and i press "restore" then i press "load" and nothing happens i tried to drag + drop the files i wanted to install again and it didnt work so i tried to drag + drop the map and it didnt work after that i tried to drag + drop the .zip files but that didnt work i tried to simply open the files and it didnt work
[16:26] <bouhafs> there are 4 or 5 when searchin on simpleget
[16:26] <bouhafs> but no one of theme named simpleget
[16:28] <bouhafs> I think there is no extension to download especially from youtube
[16:29] <reisio> what about youtube?
[16:29] <RealPanV> eric
[16:29] <HexTq> well how about something like youtube downloader or minitube
[16:29] <xangua> !info youtube-dl
[16:29] <bouhafs> please tell me, this is not my own cp is for my brother he know nothing about linux
[16:29] <jpds> bouhafs: Downloading from YouTube is against their terms and conditions
[16:29] <Abe> How do I remove desktop shortcuts in wine?
[16:30] <RealPanV> I dont know which version of 15.04 should I install with UNetBootin. Help?
[16:30] <bouhafs> so he must return in windows to do that?
[16:30] <reisio> Abe: should be in your wine prefix
[16:30] <reisio> Abe: ~/.wine/drive_c/blah/path/to/desktop by default
[16:30] <reisio> or ~/Desktop/
[16:30] <HexTq> no there is a youtube-dl package you can install or use minitube app, but as it got mentioned its against the terms
[16:30] <EriC^^> RealPanV: any version should do
[16:30] <Abe> ok thank you reisio !!
[16:30] <RealPanV> kk
[16:31] <EriC^^> admin-g: type sudo apt-get update
[16:31] <bouhafs> yes HexTq i can use youtube-dl but my brother can't he is very noob
[16:31] <RealPanV> Installing.. 1,5 mb per second :/
[16:31] <reisio> Abe: probably be a .lnk file if it's in the prefix, find ~/ -iname '*.lnk'
[16:31] <EriC^^> admin-g: then go to the iso and click on it and mount it, it should show on the left side
[16:31] <HexTq> well... you could teach him -.-
[16:31] <jpds> bouhafs: Well, you're going to have to educate him
[16:32] <jpds> bouhafs: Pretty much nothing we can do here can help otherwise
[16:32] <admin-g> EriC^^ what do i do after that?
[16:32] <bouhafs> I tryed but no chance he never enter to the school
[16:32] <EriC^^> admin-g: then type gksu nautilus and in the iso copy the .deb files from Packages and paste them in /var/cache/apt/archives
[16:32] <Abe> I was going to say I dont have /blah ^^
[16:32] <HexTq> bouhafs try minitube with him maybe
[16:33] <bouhafs> HexTq, i would to install it from apt-get?
[16:33] <HexTq> i think so
[16:34] <OerHeks> bouhafs, use softwarecenter, easy
[16:35] <bouhafs> thank you guys, OerHeks i use only apt-get, but good idea thank's
[16:35] <admin-g> EriC^^ i have to go eat ugh haha i'll be back soon but i did everything you told me to do so far
[16:36] <EriC^^> admin-g: ok, you still have to use the installedpackages file to reinstall the packages
[16:36] <bouhafs> i will be back soon to ask a new question about sensors next time, thank you,
[16:37] <EriC^^> admin-g: xargs -a /path/to/installedpackages sudo apt-get -y install --reinstall
[16:37] <kjozwiak> just wanted to stop by and say Hi! Switched over to Ubuntu from Win 10 :) ran into some hurdles at the beginning but definitely liking it far!
[16:37] <OerHeks> !yay
[16:38] <bouhafs> No protocol specified
[16:38] <bouhafs> minitube: cannot connect to X server :0
[16:38] <RealPanV> It got this command?
[16:38] <HexTq> looks like win10 is the best advertising linux can get
[16:38] <RealPanV> xD
[16:38] <RealPanV> You made my day HexTq
[16:38] <RealPanV> at least no more IE
[16:38] <HexTq> flowers in the locker room thank you -.-
[16:39] <RealPanV> I made a. mistake and didnt buy nvidia but amd
[16:39] <RealPanV> !yay
[16:39] <RealPanV> Why ubottu ;.;
[16:40] <HexTq> i have hd7700 and i have no problem with it even runs wows
[16:40] <RealPanV> I cant install fglxr
[16:40] <RealPanV> or else I will be stuck into login page and login loop
[16:40] <RealPanV> and be where I am atm
[16:41] <HexTq> may be the difference im on elementary -.-
[16:41] <strk> I'm opening up a 12.04 after a long time, do I need to apt-get upgrade *before* a dist-upgrade ?
[16:41] <RealPanV> strk, update to 14.04 :)
[16:41] <RealPanV> x3
[16:41] <auronandace> !dist-upgrade | strk
[16:41] <strk> note it's a computer from 2010, ideally I'd switch to lubuntu
[16:42] <RealPanV> Strk, why not ubuntu? ;.;
[16:42]  * RealPanV feels like he got backstabbed
[16:42] <strk> it runs ubuntu already
[16:42] <strk> but I'm afraid 14.04 will be heavier than 12.04
[16:42] <RealPanV> Meh
[16:42] <RealPanV> its still 2 gb
[16:43] <strk> heavy on use not on occupation
[16:43] <RealPanV> K
[16:43] <bouhafs> minitube said operation abondonate
[16:43] <strk> !upgrade
[16:43] <bouhafs> and no buton to download
[16:43] <RealPanV> Try 14.04, and if you see you experience problens, then download Lubuntu
[16:44] <OerHeks> bouhafs, nothing we can do about that, try youtube-dl
[16:44] <Abe> got it thanks reisio
[16:44] <reisio> Abe: gj
[16:44] <bouhafs> ok man i will back to windows, my brother can't do that
[16:45] <reisio> can't do what?
[16:45] <Abe>  use share-tube.eu for downloading yt
[16:45] <bouhafs> can't use a command line
[16:45] <Abe> very simple but sadly german
[16:45] <OerHeks> bouhafs, told you, use softwarecenter, but you want it the hard way
[16:45] <grio-work> Used up all my google-fu trying to find an answer; figured I'd check here. Have a Promise FastTrak 4650 that, when in Windows, recognizes the RAID5 configuration. However, when booting GNOME 15.04, during partitioning, it wants to split out the drives independently. Any thoughts on how I might get it to recognize in Ubuntu as one VD (Virtual Drive), instead of 3 1TB drives?
[16:45] <reisio> bouhafs: to do what?
[16:45] <Abe> just insert the link and click downloaden done...
[16:46] <Abe> u can download every file format there
[16:46] <bouhafs> OerHeks, softwarecenter to install minitube?
[16:46] <Abe> well all media formats i ment
[16:46] <OerHeks> bouhafs, *any* software
[16:46] <bouhafs> thank's Abe
[16:47] <Abe> np
[16:47] <HexTq> havent downloaded from youtube like ages
[16:47] <bouhafs> yes OerHeks but the problem i ask what's the software equivalent to idm
[16:47] <bouhafs> and no one sugessed work
[16:47] <bouhafs> i need a simple one
[16:48] <EriC^^> bouhafs: uget + aria2 + flashgot is similar
[16:48] <HexTq> we did that circle EriC
[16:48] <bouhafs> uget not exist in chrome ( installed i can't see it )
[16:48] <EriC^^> you need to install an extension
[16:48] <EriC^^> something instead of flashgot
[16:48] <OerHeks> bouhafs, did you restart chrome after that?
[16:49] <bouhafs> i tryed flashgot but forbiden in youtube
[16:49] <bouhafs> yes OerHeks
[16:49] <Abe> http://en.share-tube.eu/
[16:49] <EriC^^> bouhafs: what do you mean by forbidden in youtube?
[16:49] <EriC^^> bouhafs: if you want to download youtube videos/extract the mp3, use youtube-dl
[16:49] <HexTq> he wants to download videos from youtube for his brother who is unable to use youtube-dl
[16:49] <bouhafs> the plugins said, sorry i can't download from youtube
[16:50] <RealPanV> They say that downloading videos is against ToS, but technically, your client downloads the Video's data.. so watching videos is forbidden ;D
[16:50] <HexTq> some time ago you could find the downloaded video in some firefox folder too :)
[16:50] <HexTq> you just had to watch it then convert the file
[16:51] <bouhafs> EriC^^, the pc is not mine, is my brother he is very noob in linux ( and in windows ) if something about do multiple things he can't understand i tryed to help him but no chance
[16:51] <admin-g> EriC^^ i did what you told me to do but non of my old software are downloaded again
[16:52] <bouhafs> i said to him i think linux have an equivalent to idm and is fast than windows, but i think i lie to him
[16:52] <SuperMX> hi
[16:52] <SuperMX> my ubuntu server isn't booting properly
[16:52] <SuperMX> its not the hard drve or cd rom drive
[16:53] <wfreeman> I had a question about X11 forwarding earlier. It turns out the trick is to force indirect rendering:  ssh 192.168.1.4 -X -Y LIBGL_ALWAYS_INDIRECT=y
[16:53] <wfreeman> Then everything works.
[16:53] <EriC^^> admin-g: is the list there in installedpackages?
[16:53] <JCT500Thz> So, I need to ask a question.
[16:53] <wfreeman> Now to figure out how to make the students' PuTTies do that...
[16:53] <admin-g> EriC^^ yea
[16:53] <JCT500Thz> Can you install Grub2 without installing Ubuntu?
[16:53] <admin-g> EriC^^ sudo apt-get install all of them one by one i guess lol
[16:53] <EriC^^> admin-g: no
[16:53] <EriC^^> :[
[16:54] <bouhafs> have a good days guys and thank to trying help me
[16:54] <admin-g> EriC^^ thank god
[16:54] <admin-g> EriC^^ so whats the solution cx
[16:54] <HexTq> welcome bouhafs
[16:54] <EriC^^> type xargs -a /path/to/installedpackages what do you get?
[16:55] <JCT500Thz> I'm in the disc version of Ubuntu.
[16:55] <admin-g> EriC^^ just tells me what i had installed
[16:55] <JCT500Thz> Can you install Grub 2 without installing the OS?
[16:56] <JCT500Thz> I already have the OS but I took Grub 2 off of it by accident.
[16:56] <EriC^^> admin-g: ok type xargs -a /path/to/installedpackages sudo apt-get install --reinstall
[16:56] <HexTq> yes
[16:56] <EriC^^> what do you get?
[16:56] <JCT500Thz> I can?
[16:56] <HexTq> https://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/Installing-GRUB-using-grub_002dinstall.html   JCT500Thz
[16:56] <ubuntunoob> Hello, anyone out there?
[16:56] <JCT500Thz> I'll check that.
[16:57] <Abe> JCT500Thz: http://askubuntu.com/questions/18566/how-do-i-restore-grub-after-windows-has-deleted-it should help too
[16:57] <admin-g> EriC^^ is gives back "-a command not found"
[16:57] <EriC^^> admin-g: did you type xargs before -a?
[16:58] <ubuntunoob> I'm running ubuntu 15.04 and need to change the NetworkManager.conf file. I tried to use sudoedit /etc/NetworkManager/Networkmanager.conf and edited the file. Then I tried to overwrite the original file and it denied me permission.
[16:58] <admin-g> EriC^^ missed that sorry
[16:59] <ubuntunoob> Can anyone help me get around this issue?
[16:59] <admin-g> EriC^^ it is saying "E: unable to locate package" to all of the softwares
[16:59] <EriC^^> hmm
[16:59] <HexTq> ubuntunoob try sudo nano
[17:00] <EriC^^> admin-g: try xargs -a /path/to/installedpackages -0 sudo apt-get install --reinstall
[17:00] <ubuntunoob> HexTq: Can you give me a more specific commant? I am completely new to the command line.
[17:01] <ubuntunoob> *command
[17:01] <HexTq> sudo nano filename opens it in cli and you can save it when you edit it but i suggest you make a copy of it before tinkering
[17:01] <admin-g> EriC^^ here is the outcome http://paste.ubuntu.com/12207284/
[17:01] <Abe> ubuntunoob: did you try ~/path -- chmod +x * ?
[17:02] <EriC^^> admin-g: try for i in $(cat /path/to/installedpackages); do sudo apt-get -y install --reinstall $i; done
[17:02] <ubuntunoob> Abe: I have no idea what that does
[17:03] <admin-g> EriC^^ i think its installing it o.o
[17:03] <admin-g> EriC^^ it sure looks like it
[17:04] <Abe> chmod is for changing file permissions so you can change them... read " man chmod " in terminal for more information
[17:04] <ubuntunoob> i tried sudo nano and it works
[17:04] <HexTq> ubuntunoob something like sudo nano /etc/NetworkManager/Networkmanager.conf then when finished with the edit CTRL+X
[17:04] <ubuntunoob> Im trying to fix my network connection
[17:04] <ubuntunoob> it says unmanaged
[17:04] <Abe> good job ubuntunoob
[17:05] <Abe> I thought you are getting a permission denied or something
[17:05] <HexTq> he did
[17:06] <ubuntunoob> Can anyone recommend a good resource that is beginner friendly for me to learn the command line?
[17:06] <admin-g> EriC^^ huston we got a problem (more of an error)
[17:06] <somsip> !bash | ubuntunoob
[17:06] <Abe> ubuntunoob: youtube, ubuntu-forums, man pages, and time
[17:07] <HexTq> http://linuxcommand.org/lc3_lts0010.php could be a good start
[17:07] <thei0173> and.. use MAN on every command
[17:07] <thei0173> i.ex man ftp
[17:07] <somsip> ubottu: and don't use ftp ;-)
[17:07] <thei0173> that way youll get our manual for what the command starts with
[17:07] <somsip> ubuntunoob: ^^
[17:08] <EriC^^> admin-g: ?
[17:08] <ash_work> is there a ubuntu equiv to windows  "run as" ?
[17:08] <somsip> ash_work: sudo -u
[17:08] <ash_work> or like, can you sudo open a file with a program?
[17:09] <HexTq> yes its called s(uper)u(ser)d(o) sudo
[17:09] <somsip> ash_work: give an example of what you're trying to do
[17:09] <nehaljwani> Whenever I launch an Ubuntu VM using qemu with -vga std, the graphics become like this: http://picpaste.com/pics/Screenshot_from_2015-08-27_22-35-15-qW0xoD5R.1440695203.png
[17:09] <nehaljwani> Is there a known solution to this?
[17:10] <admin-g> EriC^^ oracle-java9-installer and spotify-client and oracl  and indicator-sysmonitor and libgcrypt11  all got this error "E: Unable to locate package"
[17:10] <Abe> nehaljwani: o_O
[17:10] <ash_work> somsip: I got it I guess, it was sudo atom file.txt
[17:10] <ash_work> somsip: because this dir is linked to a volume on a docker container, I don't have the normal permissions
[17:11] <nehaljwani> Abe: ?
[17:11] <Abe> nehaljwani: I've never seen this before so I don't have a solution for you. does it look like that right now?
[17:12] <nehaljwani> Yeah
[17:12] <HexTq> my guess would be something with the graphics driver
[17:12] <Abe> ok I try using google for you. I hope I can find something for you
[17:12] <EriC^^> admin-g: they might be from ppa's
[17:12] <HexTq> or maybe some broken font
[17:13] <admin-g> EriC^^ ohh right right sorry
[17:13] <EriC^^> admin-g: did it reinstall them without downloading btw? ( the rest of the packages )
[17:14] <admin-g> EriC^^ yea everything went smoothly just the ones from pps's that failed but i listed them and will get them manually
[17:14] <EriC^^> ok, cool
[17:15] <SuperMX> what can i do if ubuntu server crashes at boot?
[17:15] <HexTq> look at the logs
[17:16] <HexTq> telling server crashes at boot leaves a pretty big hole for why
[17:16] <Abe> nehaljwani: It could be that a language package is corrupt or something try an regular Update restart try sudo dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig and restart... hope it helps if not you need to wait for an professional
[17:17] <apb1963> Is anyone able to use pipelight on ubuntu 14.04 with firefox?
[17:17] <MarchHare> Got a question about Ubuntu drivers/packages that enable screen tilting in 14.04. I'm running a Dell Inspiron 7558 (I know, not certified), and I've installed the OS with very few problems. However, the biggest thing is when I swing the screen into tablet mode and tilt it to portrait orientation, obviously the driver to do this isn't installed
[17:17] <apb1963> I can't get it to work
[17:17] <MarchHare> I did find a "magick-rotation" package, but that didn't seem to install.
[17:17] <nehaljwani> Abe: it's not font specific
[17:18] <nehaljwani> even if I open a terminal ad type some commands
[17:18] <HexTq> are you sure nehaljwani
[17:18] <apb1963> #pipelight channel is dead
[17:18] <nehaljwani> it goes awry
[17:18] <Abe> maybe language specific ? idk
[17:18] <MarchHare> Or rather, I found a magick-rotation tar.bz2 that the installer wanted to open, but didn't seem to actually do anything with
[17:18] <HexTq> then something with the graphics driver thats my last guess -.-
[17:19] <MarchHare> So the question is: Where can I find the specific driver packages to enable this in the certified laptops that do work?
[17:19] <Abe> nehaljwani: this is really odd... maybe I recommend you reinstalling Ubuntu from scratch. ??
[17:19] <rodd> anyone using ubuntu on t450s?
[17:19] <nehaljwani> Abe: This is live mode
[17:19] <SuperMX> live cd also can't boot
[17:19] <parallelize> sdm
[17:19] <parallelize> smd
[17:19] <parallelize> smd
[17:19] <kjozwiak> anyone know when https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cryptsetup/+bug/1375435 will get fixed?
[17:19] <parallelize> smd
[17:19] <parallelize> lmfao
[17:19] <parallelize> 1337
[17:19] <kjozwiak> I tried all the different work around without any luck :/
[17:20] <Abe> maybe the CD has scratches? Post that into a forum <-- to get better help
[17:20] <nikgul> hellp
[17:20] <rodd> any1 else having this issue? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/1452318
[17:20] <nehaljwani> Abe: I launched it like this: sudo qemu-kvm -m 2.5G -hda /home/wani/win10.img -bios /home/wani/OVMF.fd -vnc :5 -net nic -net bridge,br=virbr0  -cpu host -cdrom /home/wani/ubuntu-15.04-desktop-amd64.iso -boot dc -vga qxl -full-screen &
[17:21] <nikgul> I have a problem with ssh client on ubuntu, I cant connent to my vps on ubuntu via console and even with putty(wine). Can you help me pls
[17:22] <Abe> nehaljwani: With that you look more advanced then me so good luck. I did not understand half of that what was written
[17:22] <HexTq> :D
[17:23] <nikgul> anybody here?
[17:24] <cfhowlett> !patience | nikgul,
[17:24] <HexTq> no but try be more specific than i cant connect
[17:25] <nehaljwani> Abe: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2223520
[17:25] <dionysus69> does anyone here use thunderbird for irc?
[17:26] <HexTq> forum rocks
[17:26] <HexTq> i use hexchat
[17:26] <nikgul> well, when I try to connect, console print no message and in 3 mins ''time out'
[17:26] <brothersome> nikgul, also ubuntu has putty, But I use FileZilla
[17:27] <jhutchins> nikgul: Is the sshd server running on the target?  Have you tried ssh -vvv to see what's happening in the connection process?
[17:27] <brothersome> dionysus69, I did that last week
[17:28] <dionysus69> brothersome: ye its cool, I like it, reason I asked it was due to some problem I fixed already, nevermind :D
[17:28] <rodd> i see no option but to stop using ubuntu
[17:29] <nikgul> here is log on server-side 18:58:39.886915 IP 192.168.255.253.45623 > 104.223.100.119.ssh: Flags [S], seq 1435284044, win 13720, options [mss 1372,sackOK,TS val 265854160 ecr 0,nop,wscale 4], length 0
[17:29] <dionysus69> rodd: why??
[17:29] <rodd> dionysus69: having issues on two thinkpads, t440s and t450s
[17:29] <dionysus69> rodd: what issues? i had t500 now I am on x1
[17:29] <rodd> t440s has 14.04 and gives me bad rss-counter issues
[17:29] <nikgul> and here's log  ssh -vvv  104.223.100.119
[17:29] <nikgul> OpenSSH_5.9p1 Debian-5ubuntu1.4, OpenSSL 1.0.1 14 Mar 2012
[17:29] <nikgul> debug1: Reading configuration data /etc/ssh/ssh_config
[17:29] <nikgul> debug1: /etc/ssh/ssh_config line 19: Applying options for *
[17:29] <nikgul> debug2: ssh_connect: needpriv 0
[17:29] <nikgul> debug1: Connecting to 104.223.100.119 [104.223.100.119] port 22.
[17:29] <nikgul> debug1: connect to address 104.223.100.119 port 22: Connection timed out
[17:29] <RealPanV> Hello
[17:29] <RealPanV> Eric you still here?
[17:29] <rodd> dionysus69: the t450s has this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/1452318
[17:30] <rodd> dionysus69: which carbon you got?
[17:30] <dionysus69> rodd: 3rd edition, it works great with last kernel
[17:30] <RealPanV> EriC^^, you still here?
[17:30] <dionysus69> rodd: pretty much everything works, I didnt try using fingerprint reader, I had to tinker just a little bit with wifi
[17:30] <rodd> dionysus69: u on 14 or 15?
[17:31] <Abe> nehaljwani: they say it has to do with the display driver right? so maybe when using the proprietary one will help...? But like I said. I cannot help you with this because I don't know where the Problem lies... are you just using it in VMWare ?
[17:31] <dionysus69> if you are asking screen size, it comes with 14
[17:31] <rodd> dionysus69: sorry ubuntu version
[17:31] <nehaljwani> Abe: I am using qemu ,not vmware
[17:31] <Abe> but it is a Virtualbox right?
[17:32] <dionysus69> rodd: haha 15.04, which is actually what I recommend, easiest way to fix problem with compatibility is to try newer version, maybe that kernel solved that problem :)
[17:32] <rodd> dionysus69: yeah guess so, your specs should be similar to what I got
[17:32] <rodd> intel graphicc ards
[17:32] <dionysus69> depends on many things why waking from suspend could be faulty, I have experienced that due to ATI graphics card on t500
[17:33] <dionysus69> if you have intel graphics then for sure try 15.04, I should fix it. even if it doesnt, i would still not quit ubuntu :D
[17:33] <rodd> ill give it a try to 15 before going with fedora
[17:33] <rodd> on mine, the t440s im already into arch lands
[17:33] <HexTq> umm i throwed fedora so far away i hopefully never see it again
[17:34] <dionysus69> come on ubuntu is more solid than fedora
[17:34] <rodd> I couldnt brwose for 5 minutes no matter in what browser
[17:34] <Abe> well maybe it's just quemu then. I thought you really boot it and it came up like that pew... try using a different hardware virtualization program like Virtualbox from Oracle?
[17:34] <dionysus69> never tried arch, I have a feeling if i try it, i will spend month just to set it up
[17:34] <rodd> that i'd get the bad-rss counter error
[17:34] <rodd> maybe it could be related to spotify preview app
[17:34] <HexTq> dionysus did you look at manjaro?
[17:34] <rodd> dionysus69: yea, ive spent two days so far
[17:35] <dionysus69> bad rss error, like computer hangs and boots u off and writes bad-rss error at the terminal or ?
[17:35] <rodd> dionysus69: well the tabs and a few apps crash, im forced to reboot then I get the dialog 'ubuntu encountered an error...'
[17:35] <rodd> and there it says bad rss counter
[17:35] <rodd> i was pissed off didnt dig much
[17:36] <rodd> couldnt work
[17:36] <dionysus69> i google bad rss error nothing comes up
[17:36] <dionysus69> you need to search for something more specific
[17:38] <arthar360> Hi, I am trying to configure a mail server. Everything is working except that my mail is going to spam of gmail and yahoo. I have proper SPF and DKIM. What I think is going wrong is that The Mail Headers in Gmail says "Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1])". AVoiding localhost in mail header, gmail might not mark my mail as spam. Any idea on this issue?
[17:43] <apg_> identify lx4
[17:43] <rodd> msg nickserv ghost apg_ lx4
[17:43] <rodd> ops
[17:43] <pbx> arthar360, not a good channel for MTA admin advice. try the channel/list/group for your MTA
[17:43] <cfhowlett> aaaaaaaand it's time to change your password
[17:44] <Abe> arthar360: Is your Ip on a block list ?
[17:44] <Abe> look up here http://www.spamhaus.org/lookup/
[17:44] <nehaljwani> Abe: -vga qxl -global qxl-vga.vram_size=268435456 workedxD
[17:45] <arthar360> Abe, Checked, Its not blacklisted
[17:45] <Abe> wow good job I would have given up !!!
[17:45] <Abe> arthar360: hmm
[17:46] <apg_> nickserv ghost apg_ lx4
[17:46] <arthar360> pbx, I didnt get "the channel/list/group for your MTA". What to do exactly ?
[17:46] <apg_> nickserv ghost apg lx4
[17:47] <HexTq> pwchange-o-clock :D
[17:48] <Abe> arthar360: maybe it's the content? you should not look like a spammer in gerneral anyway... http://www.rackaid.com/blog/email-going-to-spam-folder/
[17:48] <pbx> arthar360, your MTA is your mail server. each one has its own support community. e.g. when i ran postfix i got a lot of out #postfix here on freenode
[17:49] <pbx> arthar360, major services like google and yahoo often have guides about how to stay on their good side  when sending mail. i don't have urls but that's worth looking up.
[17:49] <Abe> arthar360: I'm not into servers that much anyway you should listen to pbx
[17:50] <Abe> and go into a different channel. I think this here is more for ubuntu desktops
[17:52] <arthar360> pbx, I did follow all guides, googled for a week.. tired. Every mail test gives 10/10 result. Neither the mail has any spam or looking like spam content. I am sure that the mistake is silly in my configuration. The localhost.localdomain in Received Headers is the culprit
[17:54] <Nikesh> So.. I noticed that Ubuntu Live USB boots very slowly in Legacy mode. Can anyone address my paranoia that the whole system post-installation will slow, too? Or should it be fine?
[17:55] <cfhowlett> Nikesh, "should be fine" ... how much ram have you?
[17:55] <Nikesh> cfhowlett: 8GB
[17:55] <brothersome> Nikesh, Most USB devices are slow - Legacy has nothing to do with this
[17:56] <Nikesh> brothersome: OK. In contrast when I boot into UEFI mode, it boots much faster
[17:56] <Nikesh> That is why I was concerned
[17:56] <Nikesh> am concerned, rather
[17:56] <brothersome> What brand of USB you use?
[17:57] <Nikesh> Kingston
[17:58] <brothersome> Yeah, the Kingston sticks I have are slow - real slow - Best is to use Corsair - that can be real fast
[17:58] <TJ-> Nikesh: can you quantity 'very slowly' - number of seconds to the desktop for both modes, maybe?
[17:58] <TJ-> s/quantity/quantify/
[17:59] <terraview> hi guys, I'm trying to give a 2nd Linux user permission to edit files in /var/www but getting permission errors. So far I created a new group, added both olduser and newuser to that group, and did >chown :group /var/www/file.php
[17:59] <terraview> yet the new user still can't edit the file... any ideas?
[17:59] <TJ-> terraview: the group will also need write permission for the directory, so file metadata can be updated
[18:01] <terraview> TJ-: I did that - the directory is 775 and the file inside is 664. It's actually /var/www/site.com/ and /var/www/site.com/test.php
[18:01] <HexTq> its not the brand of the USB its the class type that determines the speed of a pendrive i think
[18:02] <terraview> I did >chown -R :group /var/www/site.com
[18:03] <cfhowlett> usb-c > usb3 > usb2 > usb1
[18:03] <TJ-> terraview: Does the group have traversal permissions from / to /var/www/site.com/  (the x bit on directories) ?
[18:04] <HexTq> i think class 2 is like 2mb/s while class10 is 10mb/s but that may only apply to sd cards
[18:05] <terraview> TJ-: no, both /var and /var/www are owned by group root[0]. Are you saying I should apply the group to the full path recursively, starting with /var??
[18:05] <TJ-> HexTq: that does indirectly affect USB-connected Flash storage, because internally the cheaper controller/flash modules often have modules with slower write/read access
[18:06] <HexTq> could be, i just forget my pendrive is not a pendrive its a 4slot cardreader
[18:06] <TJ-> terraview: Well, if the 'Other' permissions doesn't allow 'x' on the directories, then the group or user will need 'x' in order to traverse from / to the target dir
[18:06] <HexTq> and there is a very noticeable difference in speed between cards
[18:08] <TJ-> terraview: I have a shell script that is really useful for checking traversal. http://iam.tj/projects/misc/traverse_perms.sh
[18:08] <rvr87> if I have added my non-root user "blah" to group "developers"
[18:08] <rvr87> and a folder has group set as developers
[18:09] <rvr87> with rwx permissions
[18:09] <rvr87> why would I still not be able to write/make folders in that folder?
[18:10] <TJ-> rvr87: has the user logged in since being added to the group?
[18:11] <wfreeman> I thought I had solved this earlier, but I hadn't. Can anyone help me with a problem related to GLX programs (for instance glxgears) throwing error messages and being extremely slow over X11 forwarding, but working fine locally?
[18:12] <regedit> TJ-: heya :) nice seeing you again
[18:12] <akik> wfreeman: have you tried using the x2go client-server thingy? remote desktop basically
[18:13] <akik> can't remember if it does opengl
[18:13] <wfreeman> This is for a physics class I'm teaching, so it has to work on Windows dumb terminals. I just don't understand the performance regression -- this software worked fine over remote X on old hardware years ago.
[18:14] <wfreeman> Now it appears that, instead of doing sensible forwarding, raster images of each frame are being shoveled over the network, which is as slow as you'd think
[18:14] <wfreeman> and I keep getting messages like "libGL error: failed to load driver: i965"
[18:15] <Voyage> Hi
[18:15] <wfreeman> (this is when I run glxgears, even)
[18:15] <Voyage> I did lpci |grep vga but I only found one vga. (I have attached 2 lcds with builtin vga and DVI-D ports in motherboard)
[18:15] <Voyage> how to find the other?
[18:15] <terraview> TJ-: "Other" has rx permissions in /var and /var/www (group "root"), same for /var/www/site.com (group "newgroup")
[18:16] <terraview> That info helps me understand how this is supposed to work though (I think), ha. Thanks a lot for that and the script, I'll need to get back to it tomorrow
[18:16] <TJ-> terraview: has the user logged in again since being added to 'group'? new assignments don't affect existing logins
[18:16] <SirMoo> I've lost Ethernet completely from my computer... :( Going to need a bit of help...
[18:16] <terraview> I read your post above @rvr87 and yes, I logged out and back in... same thing
[18:17] <TJ-> terraview: Can other users in the same group edit the same file?
[18:18] <TJ-> regedit: Had another Lenovo user this week hit by the same problem you confronted - saved me a *lot* of time to diagnose :)
[18:18] <poli> What would be a faster/batter alternative to mpstat to check on cpu load for scaling up a horizontal web server? mpstat takes a real long time to reflect load increase that top, for example, does not.
[18:19] <terraview> TJ-: only 2 users exist in the group, olduser and newuser. olduser is the file and folder owner as before, and can still edit everything after the group change.
[18:19] <TJ-> poli: that might be a question for #ubuntu-server ... more chance of expertise on such things there
[18:19] <poli> TJ-: thanks!
[18:19] <regedit> TJ-: are you fo realsies?? like, he had dual boot and wanted to figure out UEFI and updating the BIOS & all that?...
[18:20] <TJ-> terraview: try adding a test user to the group, and use 'sudo su tempuser ....' and see if that user can edit the file
[18:20] <TJ-> regedit: The user had removed Ubuntu but couldn't remove the UEFI boot menu entry
[18:20] <regedit> if i remember correctly the solution was to run the window7 BIOS flasher even in windows 8 in compatibility mode... or somesuch
[18:21] <TJ-> regedit: I pointed to the Lenovo advisory and recommended a firmware upgrade; not heard back since
[18:21] <regedit> :D
[18:21] <regedit> another satisfied customer
[18:21] <Gallomimia> hopefully that doesn't mean he bricked the machine and can't get online to tell you about it
[18:21] <TJ-> Well, the week we wasted on that certainly paid off
[18:21] <terraview> TJ-: ok will do tomorrow first thing (need to run). I'll circle back here. Thank you!
[18:22] <TJ-> terraview: good luck :)  (oh - and try launching the editor with strace)
[18:22] <SirMoo> Attempting to fix my own network problem... I've made things worst. :/
[18:22] <terraview> will do :)
[18:23] <regedit> TJ-: do you happen to be logged in on #linux at the moment as well? would you care to scroll up a bit over there my question about dd drive image, please-ly :)
[18:23] <Voyage> I did lpci |grep vga but I only found one vga. (I have attached 2 lcds with builtin vga and DVI-D ports in motherboard)
[18:23] <Voyage> how to find the other?
[18:24] <TJ-> SirMoo: We had a user this week reported a similar problem after package upgrades; It turned out the physical interface all seemed to react to manual commands and could see incoming packets but couldn't transmit. The user came in today to say that by removing the networkmanager-pvn and networkmanager-vpn-gnome packages it fixed the issue. The user didn't have any VPNs defined, so not sure if that was the true cure though.
[18:24] <user> hih
[18:24] <TJ-> regedit: Ye, and sure
[18:24] <regedit> TJ-: awesome as always :) thanks
[18:24] <ioria> Voyage, try  sudo lshw -c video
[18:25] <TJ-> regedit: you've only 1 loop device (loop0); you have 4 partitions p1-p4. Totally normal
[18:26] <Voyage> ioria,  thats one display
[18:26] <bujji> The volume does not contain a recognized file system. Please make sure that all required file system drivers are loaded and that the v olume is not corrupted.
[18:26] <ioria> Voyage, xrandr ?
[18:27] <TJ-> regedit: The problem is, the image you have in the file doesn't start with a partition table, it looks like you originally only backed up the partition e.g. dd if=/dev/sdc1 ... *not* dd if=/dev/sdc
[18:27] <regedit> TJ-: oh, interesting... didnt realize this drive had multiple partitions. Why are they showing "unknown" and also crazy sizes like 883G
[18:27] <bujji> daftykins: hello
[18:27] <TJ-> regedit: so, to begin with unmount the file
[18:28] <regedit> TJ-: strange, i'm pretty sure i did dd on the entire device not just a specific number of the device... i may be wrong tho
[18:28] <TJ-> regedit: then check it's content with "file /path/to/foo"
[18:28] <Voyage> ioria,  xrand whats that?
[18:28] <TJ-> regedit: if 'foo' is just a file-system image, 'file' will tell you what type
[18:28] <regedit> i am able to mount the device BTW, and browse all its files/folders
[18:28] <rvr87> how can I run some gtk window from the terminal without blocking the terminal while the program is active
[18:29] <TJ-> regedit: Mount the original device you mean?
[18:29] <ioria> Voyage, tells you what displays are connected and on what resolution
[18:30] <regedit> TJ-: yep i'm able to mount the img file as a filesystem and browse in it
[18:30] <Voyage> ioria,  thanks,
[18:31] <TJ-> regedit: oh, well then that confirms it is just a file-system image from a partition then.
[18:31] <ioria> Voyage, np
[18:31] <regedit> interesting... maybe i did do the sdX# then
[18:31] <TJ-> regedit: if you mean "mount -o loop /path/to/file /path/to/mountpoint"
[18:31] <Voyage> I am configuring multiseat. I have connected 2 vgas, mice and keyboards. How do I identify vga? http://pastie.org/10380009
[18:31] <regedit> TJ-: yes i do
[18:32] <TJ-> regedit: then yes, it is just the file-system no partition table, which explains your pastebin garbage fdisk output
[18:32] <regedit> interesting
[18:32] <regedit> file /path/to/img file also seems to output weird stuff
[18:32] <bujji> pendrive is not opening
[18:33] <regedit> TJ-: output from `file` command http://paste.ubuntu.com/12207943/
[18:33] <delt> Hello
[18:34] <delt> is there a command to enable/disable ctrl+alt+function keys on the fly in X11? (without "permanently" editing a config file)
[18:34] <delt> same for ctrl+alt+backspace?
[18:34] <TJ-> regedit: that looks very bad
[18:34] <x11> delt, r u using i3 ?
[18:35] <Gallomimia> Voyage: it looks like you have 1 vga and 1 hdmi. not 2 vga's. seems easy to keep those apart
[18:35] <OneM_Industries> How would I open a drive as root from the file management gui?
[18:36] <delt> x11: i3?
[18:36] <HexTq> you dont use root to open a drive
[18:36] <x11> delt, this shortcuts using in i3
[18:36] <regedit> oooh i know, leme check my ssh history for the `dd` command i ran...
[18:36] <delt> what is i3?
[18:36] <regedit> er i mean shell/terminal history wtvr
[18:36] <TJ-> regedit: I *think* it is showing there may be a Microsoft boot-loader in the FAT32 file-system header
[18:37] <Gallomimia> regedit: great idea! grep .bash_history dd
[18:37] <OneM_Industries> Hm, ok.
[18:37] <Gallomimia> OneM_Industries: perhaps you should talk about what you need to do. the root user is technically disabled in default ubuntu
[18:37] <OneM_Industries> I am having an issue where the drive is refusing to let me create any new file or folders in it, as I require root to do so.
[18:38] <HexTq> why would you want to be root to access a drive
[18:38] <OneM_Industries> Problem is, this was supposed to be a backups drive.
[18:38] <Gallomimia> perhaps you should change how its mounted? or the permissions on the drive?
[18:38] <regedit> TJ-: well strangely enough looks like i did `dd` the entire device after all.. the exact command was: sudo dd if=/dev/sdc of=/media/regedit/foo/bar/hdd.img
[18:38] <Gallomimia> or you could run your commands to copy files on there as root with sudo ?
[18:38] <TJ-> OneM_Industries: if the file-system is ext* the default permissions of its root dir with be root:root; you can change that if you want to
[18:38] <OneM_Industries> It is the permissions on the drive.
[18:39] <Nikesh> So I booted into Legacy mode on the Live USB and my keyboard isn't recognized? I can't enter anything into the fields for the installation
[18:39] <OneM_Industries> Ok, how would I change that?
[18:39] <Gallomimia> sudo chown (yourusername) /path/to/your/drive
[18:39] <TJ-> regedit: then I'm not sure how 'mount -o loop ...' can work, unless you also provide an offset to the file-system start
[18:39] <rodd> dionysus69: 15 seems to be working fine so far
[18:39] <Voyage> Gallomimia,  so I can have multiseat?
[18:40] <OneM_Industries> Ok, thank you.
[18:40] <Gallomimia> Voyage: multiseat is something i gave up on awhile ago. i'd like to figure it out again. but you have 2 displays, that sounds good enough for me.
[18:40] <TJ-> regedit: Can you do "pastebinit <(dd if=/media/regedit/foo/bar/hdd.img count=4 | hexdump -C)"
[18:40] <regedit> TJ-: yep in the ##linux channel i mentioned i was following some tutorial which instructed me to use the loop option and specify offset (sector size * begin sector)
[18:41] <Voyage> Gallomimia,  someone said : <rkeene> Voyage, If you only have one device you cannot share it between two processes
[18:41] <TJ-> regedit: ahhh... ok, when I asked about that command here I thought you confirmed only using '-o loop' -- as in, no offset
 Voyage, Both processes would try to take exclusive ownership of the device, and one would fail
[18:41] <Siente> Hello guys, what's the best way to install NetBeans on Ubuntu 14.04.3 in your opinion?
[18:41] <Gallomimia> Voyage: is it one single gpu, or one single display?
[18:41] <Voyage> Gallomimia,  I have builtin display in my mother board. its z97
[18:41] <Ben64> Siente: sudo apt-get install netbeans
[18:42] <Voyage> Gallomimia,  dont know further details though
[18:42] <Gallomimia> Voyage: plus one external monitor? i thought multiseat works this way...
[18:42] <Siente> Ben64, isn't going to install an older version?
[18:42] <Voyage> Gallomimia,  its not a laptop. Its a PC. I have attached two lcd
[18:43] <Gallomimia> Voyage: i'd love to hear more about what you find out. but i must go afk for now
[18:43] <Ben64> Siente: it will install the version that works with 14.04
[18:43] <Voyage> Gallomimia,  how do I identify each vga/output in xorg configs then?
[18:43] <Gallomimia> Voyage: okay that's what i have now. but i have both displays connected to graphics card. there is no onboard graphics
[18:43] <Siente> how can I check which version is that without installing it?
[18:43] <OneM_Industries> Odd, I tried to assign ownership to myself, but the permissions dialogue still shows that I do not own the drive.
[18:43] <Gallomimia> Voyage: one output is vga and the other is hdmi1
[18:43] <Voyage> ok.
[18:43] <Voyage> but how do I identify ?
[18:43] <Ben64> Siente: apt-cache policy netbeans
[18:43] <Gallomimia> Voyage: it shows the names of them in that pastebin you mentioned
[18:44] <Voyage> Gallomimia,  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultiseatX
[18:44] <Gallomimia> how to identify? well whichever display connects via hdmi is probably the hdmi1
[18:44] <Siente> 7.0.1 so I will install it manually from https://netbeans.org/downloads/
[18:44] <Siente> ?
[18:44] <Ben64> Siente: so you came here and asked the best way to install it, i told you, and you want to ignore it? cool, have fun
[18:45] <Siente> I want to use version 8.02
[18:45] <Siente> 8.0.2
[18:45] <TJ-> Voyage: The system has only *one* GPU, whereas those instructions are for a system with *two* GPUs
[18:45] <drkjstr> Siente, i
[18:46] <drkjstr> 've used the installer from the web before
[18:46] <drkjstr> It should work, but just understand that you'll have to continue to upgrade it manually.
[18:46] <Voyage> TJ-,  Gallomimia  so I canNOT have multiseat with one builtin video in motherboard with 2 outputs?
[18:46] <Siente> yeah :)
[18:46] <Siente> I've used it all the time
[18:46] <drkjstr> This was back in like 2010
[18:46] <Siente> the installer from the web site
[18:46] <Siente> but wanted to ask here now before using it again
[18:46] <Gallomimia> TJ-: is it possible to multiseat with 1 gpu?
[18:47] <TJ-> Voyage: If you want to use multiseat with a single GPU, you'll need to have almost identical "Device" sections for both heads, *but* you'll need to tell each "Device" to only use one head, usinf the "Screen   X" option (where X will be 0 for the first head and 1 for the second)
[18:47] <OneM_Industries> Ok, found the issue. I had ownership over the drive, but not the mountpoint.
[18:47] <drkjstr> If you are using 15.04, it seems the web installer is the only option. But, the official is usually via apt.
[18:47] <Gallomimia> Voyage: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultiseatOneCard
[18:47] <regedit> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12208037/
[18:48] <Siente> drkjstr, using 14.04.3 atm
[18:48] <TJ-> Voyage: see "man xorg.conf" and look at the "DEVICE SECTION" and its definition of "Screen number"
[18:48] <Gallomimia> Voyage: TJ- that link is from the bottom of the page on multiseat. has some tweaks for single card. it's a hard problem. i hope to tackle it again soon
[18:48] <drkjstr> OneM_Industries, did you do that with sudo?
[18:49] <TJ-> regedit: OK, that is an MBR (55 aa at offset 510 (0x1FE)
[18:49] <Gallomimia> Voyage: i'm going to spy on the "known to be working" setups. they posted their configs and stuff!
[18:50] <Voyage> TJ-,  Gallomimia  so multiseat with one card is a DIFFICULT thing to do?
[18:50] <Gallomimia> i dunno. multiseat with any number of cards is difficult.
[18:50] <Gallomimia> as i said, i tried and gave up. still got things to iron out of my 1 seat setup
[18:51] <Siente> I'll need to have a web server I can install php5 mysql and php5-mysql with sudo apt-get install right and what else I'll need?
[18:51] <OneM_Industries> drkjstr: Yes, I now have full permissions over the drive.
[18:51] <Ben64> Siente: depends what you need
[18:51] <TJ-> Voyage: use 2 "Device" sections in the xorg.conf with different "Identifier", using "Screen 0" for 1 and "Screen 1" for the other, and the BusID identical
[18:52] <Siente> Ben64, web server so I'll need apache php mysql
[18:52] <Gallomimia> OneM_Industries: good job. rule of thumb: if you need root permissions for something, use them to get yourself permission to do that thing without root. doing things as root is dangerous 100% of the time.
[18:52] <regedit> TJ-: ok, soo... what might that mean, regarding all the other weird stuff going on about it?
[18:53] <TJ-> regedit: I'm converting it back to binary here to see what it shows
[18:53] <regedit> TJ-: cool thanks (brb in a few min)
[18:54] <Nikesh> Any ideas about my keyboard (laptop) not working when booting into the Live USB in Legacy (BIOS) mode?
[18:54] <Voyage> TJ-,  but something tells me that it will be even more diffciult?
[18:54] <drkjstr> OneM_Industries, glad you figured it out =]
[18:56] <jhutchins> Nikesh: How do you know the keyboard isn't working?
[18:56] <drkjstr> OneM_Industries, Gallomimia, I did something similar with a hard drive connected to my router for an FTP. I had to use sudo to copy the files to a new drive, and then assign ownership back to the user needed for the router.
[18:56] <Ioyrie> Hey drkjstr!
[18:57] <OneM_Industries> Now for 1Tb of files to backup....;)
[18:57] <drkjstr> Ioyrie, yes?
[18:58] <Nikesh> jhutchins: Because when I try to type into the input fields in the installation nothing appears
[18:58] <Nikesh> But in UEFI mode it works
[19:02] <fwhiffahder> i'm having issues getting steam to work on a new 64 bit vivid install. apt apparently can't find any i386 packages. sudo apt-get update gives several lines like "W: Failed to fetch http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/dists/vivid/main/binary-i386/Packages"
[19:03] <OerHeks> fwhiffahder, try sudo apt-get install -f
[19:03] <Norbin> hey
[19:04] <Norbin> I am unable to get sound to work on fresh install of 15.04 on a new computer, looks like my onboard soundcard is not being recognized. it's the z170 chipset
[19:04] <akiselev> I am trying to get brightness working on my laptop, a Samsung NP470R5E. I've got two interfaces under /sys/class/backlight: intel_backlight and samsung
[19:04] <fwhiffahder> OerHeks: ok i did that. apt-get update still throws 404s
[19:05] <akiselev> I've added the acpi_backlight=vendor option but the brightness controls dont work
[19:05] <akiselev> however, if I echo a brightness to /sys/class/backlight/samsung/brightness it changes the brightness on the screen
[19:05] <akiselev> so I'm just trying to figure out how to change the backlight controls from intel_backlight to samsung
[19:06] <TJ-> regedit: I think my brain is fried here; keep on getting swapped byte pairs !
[19:06] <haskellberry_pie> How can I get all words from /usr/share/dict/ ?
[19:07] <Ben_g> I set up an ssh server on a computer, and I can connect to it succesfully using the command prompt, but
[19:07] <Ben_g> when I connect to it through nautillus, it says that I have no permission to modify any files.
[19:09] <drkjstr> haskellberry_pie, have you tried: cat /usr/share/dict/words > words.txt
[19:09] <jazzorius> Struggling with blocking an IP using ufw.
[19:09] <jazzorius> http://pastebin.com/pQTQDBYr
[19:09] <jazzorius> ufw status numbered shows that the first rule is to block that IP
[19:09] <gambl0re> ubuntu is running really slow
[19:10] <jazzorius> And yet it continues to make requests and we are logging those requests
[19:10] <jazzorius> How could this be?
[19:10] <jazzorius> The only thing I can think of is the real IP is different and what nginx is reporting in its logs is the X-Forwarded-For IP maybe? If that's the case, how do I know what the correct IP is?
[19:10] <ki7rw> if i understand the hcl at ubuntu - none of the listed dell laptops work properly with trusty
[19:10] <OerHeks> fwhiffahder, maybe you need to enable partner repo, or try to purge/reinstall https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Valve
[19:10] <drkjstr> !details | gambl0re
[19:10] <Holzbein> hi
[19:11] <Holzbein> i have a question of general matter
[19:11]  * OerHeks hates that someone else is making money on our support
[19:11] <Ben_g> Nautillus also says that files are owned by me.
[19:11] <Ben_g> so it shouldn't be a permission issue.
[19:11] <Holzbein> what was prior to systemd?
[19:11] <_Roc> help with virtualization anyone?
[19:11] <OerHeks> upstart Holzbein
[19:11] <Holzbein> thx
[19:12] <OerHeks> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SystemdForUpstartUsers
[19:12] <_Roc> trying to install basic ubuntu CLI, but it freezes at startup
[19:13] <OerHeks> what is "basic ubuntu CLI".. server?
[19:13] <daftykins> ^
[19:13] <_Roc> my fault im new
[19:14] <_Roc> i believe so
[19:14] <_Roc> without desktop, just bash
[19:14] <altin> anyone knows an alternative to xinput command that works in cli and doesn't required x server to be running ?
[19:16] <Sc0tty-> how do I change the keyboard settings in 14.04? I want to change from US to UK format.
[19:16] <OerHeks> _Roc, can yyou give more details, what iso did you use, vm settings /host ?
[19:16] <EriC^^> Sc0tty-: settings > text entry
[19:16] <JodaZ> altin, "read"
[19:18] <Bashing-om> scottschecter: ^^ also: A keyboard app indicator icon in the top panel. Click on that and select Text Entry Settings and we get the dialog to add or remove keyboard layouts.
[19:19] <TJ-> regedit: finally!  http://paste.ubuntu.com/12208288/
[19:26] <Norbin> The driver that comes with fglrx, are usually older than the ones on amd site?
[19:27] <Nikesh> 32gb sufficient for /?
[19:27] <Nikesh> In a very long-term view
[19:27] <Norbin> Nikesh:  can't it be extended if ever needed ?
[19:27] <_Roc> it was a bre bones download of utopic unicorn .iso
[19:28] <_Roc> bare*
[19:28] <Nikesh> Norbin: That's true!
[19:28] <allcentury> hi #ubuntu, I'm running OSX locally and Ubuntu on a remote.  When I SSH over, I'm unable to copy to my local clipboard via cat file | xclip -selection clipboard
[19:28] <_Roc> using vm ware
[19:28] <allcentury> any suggestions?
[19:28] <Norbin> Nikesh:  i am mostly asking, a bit clueless :P
[19:28] <Norbin> i've gone with 20gb for my root
[19:29] <uio> Hi - a while ago I opened disk utility and it said that my hard drive was in critical condition. I didn't use it for a week or so, and now it says that it is healthy... is it 'safe' for data ??
[19:30] <daftykins> uio: are you in ubuntu on this machine right now? is it the only disk?
[19:30] <pbx> allcentury, that should work. clipboard remains empty?
[19:30] <uio> daftykins: No, I am not on it now, but I have the comuter beside me....
[19:30] <uio> *computer
[19:30] <daftykins> uio: and one disk?
[19:31] <uio> daftykins: yes.
[19:31] <allcentury> pbx: I can paste correctly in the same ssh session, but locally (say another shell) it's not working
[19:31] <daftykins> uio: run this on it "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install pastebinit smartmontools" ...then: "sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda | pastebinit" and type out the link here
[19:31] <pbx> allcentury, the clipboard isn't going to bridge that gap
[19:31] <uio> daftykins: Kay.
[19:31] <allcentury> pbx: ah, what will?
[19:32] <pbx> allcentury, as far as your host (osx machine) is concerned you're just typing stuff in a terminal. it doesn't know anything about what's going on on the ubuntu box
[19:32] <pbx> allcentury, for small bits of text, select in terminal. for larger ones, pipe to a pastebin or other shared storage
[19:32] <allcentury> pbx: that makes sense.
[19:33] <ROPA> hi all, I just bought a USB silicone flexible keyboard for my ubuntu laptop, but it does not work. Appears dead. Does it need a driver?? The stock keyboard works fine, am using it to send this message. Any suggestions??
[19:33] <pbx> allcentury, e.g. cat file | curl -s -F "content=<-" http://dpaste.com/api/v2/
[19:33] <daftykins> ROPA: USB 3 port or 2?
[19:34] <ROPA> usb 2
[19:34] <allcentury> pbx: would X11 -Y solve this?  Some SO users are suggesting that as a possible work around but I'm not getting it to work
[19:34] <daftykins> ROPA: look at "dmesg | tail" on plugging it in and see what's seen
[19:35] <drkjstr> _Roc, try downloading server version or the mini ISO to select what you want specifically.
[19:35] <ROPA> daftykins, not sure what that means. How do I look at it?
[19:35] <pbx> allcentury, i don't see how that would help. same inherent problem, just a less spartan ui on the remote
[19:35] <daftykins> ROPA: run that command in the terminal.
[19:36] <ki7rw> is it just me or is there a problem with the internet somewhere - some web sites come up quickly while others keep clocking for over 2 minutes
[19:36] <daftykins> sounds like your DNS.
[19:37] <daftykins> lol @ the whole internet because of your personal browsing
[19:37] <ki7rw> my speed tests show half the speed i normally get
[19:37] <Johnny_Linux> use squid
[19:37] <dos-developers> Hello
[19:37] <dos-developers> can someone help me plz
[19:37] <ki7rw> daftykins, dns is working just fine
[19:37] <daftykins> working, but it can be slow
[19:37] <daftykins> ki7rw: you don't do much networking? :)
[19:38] <dos-developers> cc   conf.o zconf.tab.o   -o conf
[19:38] <ki7rw> i do a lot but i don't know everything
[19:38] <dos-developers> What does that mean?
[19:38] <dos-developers> That error
[19:38] <regedit> TJ-: back. sad to hear about the fried barins :D
[19:38] <regedit> TJ-: sounds like an endian thingy issue?
[19:38] <Bashing-om> !ask | dos-developers WQe win't know 'til
[19:38] <TJ-> regedit: But  http://paste.ubuntu.com/12208288/
[19:39] <ki7rw> sometimes a reboot of my router gets things running again, but not this time
[19:39] <regedit> TJ-: aha! that first loop looks sane, not sure what the others are doing there
[19:40] <ki7rw> i still can't get foxnews or usatoday to come up - facebook is slow - ubuntu and startpage comes up right away
[19:40] <Comet> howdy folks, i create /etc/init/file.conf to run a script on startup, but it doesn't seem to be working. the script seems to be correct, but i just didn't know if there was a way I could check the startup output to see why it's not running?
[19:40] <TJ-> regedit: they aren't there, you are misreading. There are 4 entries in an MBR PT, those p1-p4 just indicate that.
[19:40] <_Roc> having trouble findin a mini iso
[19:40] <jhutchins> ki7rw: There are tools like traceroute and mtr that can show you where in the chain of connections the slowdown is happening.
[19:40] <regedit> ohhh
[19:40] <daftykins> ki7rw: right so test DNS other than supplied by your router/ISP if you don't already.
[19:41] <ki7rw> jhutchins, yep, i was just looking at that - looks like a bottleneck after the 4th hop
[19:41] <daftykins> and of course a start page comes up right away - it's local.
[19:41] <regedit> TJ-: i get different output, pasting...
[19:41] <uioo> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12208461/ voilà
[19:41] <jhutchins> ki7rw: ki7rw Tools like tcpdump and wireshark can show you what kind of traffic is on your local loop.
[19:41] <dos-developers> So i will explain my Problem in one line ;) basically i have a ath9k and i want to install the drivers via Backports because the connection drops after sometime.I download backports for my kernel(3.17). when i run make defconfig-ath9k i got that error http://pastebin.com/fgxsGjEY thanks for any who can help me
[19:41] <uioo> daftykins: I am uio too, two machines.
[19:41] <Saulo> (back) not here. (time: 18h 5m e 45s)
[19:41] <regedit> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12208470/
[19:42] <TJ-> regedit: but, p1 shows the actual offset/end/size of the FAT32 partition... so if you want to mount the entire thing correctly, you can use those values to calculate the correct offset for mount *or* you can "sudo losetup -vf /path/to/file.img" and then "sudo partprobe /dev/loopX" (replace X) and you can then do "sudo mount /dev/loopXp1 /path/to/mountpoint"
[19:42] <Bashing-om> _Roc: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD .
[19:42] <ki7rw> i tried to install wireshark and screwed up my laptop big-time trying to get it to work - had to re-install - grrrrrrr
[19:42] <jhutchins> ki7rw: "The Internet" isn't really a thing, it's a whole bunch of interconnected things.  They're widely enough spread and controlled by different entities, so it's pretty hard to imagine anything happening to the whole internet at once.
[19:42] <ROPA> daftykins, it has several lines for the usb keyboard, none of them indicate errors. Should I send them here on this IRC channel?
[19:42] <Saulo> (away) Inativo por mais de 20 minutos
[19:42] <ki7rw> jhutchins, i'm not that stupid
[19:42] <Dramatic6> hi, can someone please assist me with edubuntu on a C3 server
[19:42] <HexTq> you have weak imagination jhutchins :)
[19:43] <daftykins> !paste | ROPA no...
[19:43] <TJ-> regedit: I suspect you used the sfdisk command on your offset loop device, so you're not seeing the PT you are seeing the file-system starting at sector 63!
[19:43] <Saulo> (back) Inativo por mais de 20 minutos (time: 33s)
[19:43] <regedit> oh hm
[19:43] <regedit> TJ-: my mount command was as follows: sudo mount -o loop,offset=32256 /media/regedit/foo/bar/hdd.img /mnt/drive_c/
[19:44] <Saulo> (away) Inativo por mais de 20 minutos
[19:44] <daftykins> uioo: bear with me, will take a minute
[19:44] <regedit> TJ-: what should i have run the sfdisk command on?
[19:44] <uioo> daftykins: No worries.
[19:44] <uioo> daftykins: I wanted to find the results I had pasted before.
[19:44] <regedit> TJ-: i ran your sfdisk command exactly as you pasted it
[19:45] <TJ-> regedit: Yes, so the mount will actually do in the background "losetup -o 32256 /dev/loop0  /media/regedit/foo/bar/hdd.img"
[19:45] <vairamuthu> hi
[19:45] <vairamuthu> i have some problem in partition
[19:45] <TJ-> regedit: so loop0 doesn't have the first 63 sectors of the file, so there is no partition table visible
[19:45] <regedit> i see...
[19:45] <vairamuthu> any solution for that bug
[19:46] <TJ-> regedit: "sudo losetup -vf  /media/regedit/foo/bar/hdd.img"   then "sudo sfdisk -l -u S /dev/loopX"
[19:46] <uioo> daftykins: Here is the output from a 10 days ago... : http://paste.ubuntu.com/12093703/
[19:46] <uioo> daftykins: Same machine....
[19:47] <TJ-> regedit: if you want to access file-systems in partitions inside a raw disk image, you first losetup the raw image, then you run 'partprobe /dev/loopX' on it, which reads the partition table and gives it to the kernel. From then on you can address it just the same as a real disk with "mount /dev/loopXp1 /mountpoint"
[19:47] <Saulo> (back) Inativo por mais de 20 minutos (time: 3m e 24s)
[19:48] <regedit> TJ-: interesting ok. these are issues only with MBR disks? never came across these issues with other drives..
[19:48] <ROPA> daftykins, posted at http://paste.ubuntu.com/12208522/
[19:49] <TJ-> regedit: if it had a GPT you'd have many other problems because GPT has 2 PTs, one at the end of the device, so finding it relies on the size of the image matching the original device exactly
[19:49] <TJ-> regedit: if the file contains an ISO image, or is just a file-system, then there doesn't need to be a PT
[19:50] <regedit> TJ-: does any of this have to do also with why win8 context menu "Mount" option results in error? or is it simply that w95 MBR LBA is simply unsupported on windows 8+
[19:51] <TJ-> regedit: I suspect Windows expects the file to only contain a file-system, but I've no recent knowledge of what Windows expects
[19:51] <regedit> TJ-: my goal here was to backup the HDD and i thought writing it with dd as a mountable image should do. Is there another way i can redo the whole dd process which will make all these details easier / more robust to handle?
[19:52] <daftykins> uioo: yep that disk is on the way out
[19:52] <regedit> TJ-: maybe i *should* have done dd if=/dev/sdX# ?
[19:52] <Happzz> hi. ive added another language layout for my kb, but i cant find any way to switch between them other than manually with the language thing at the top of the screen
[19:52] <Happzz> windows change swith ctrl-shift
[19:52] <EriC^^> regedit: sudo losetup /dev/loop1 image.img
[19:52] <daftykins> ROPA: ah well no ideas here, besides a full power up from off with it in
[19:52] <uioo> daftykins: Thanks. Sigh....
[19:52] <EriC^^> then type lsblk i think it should show up and you can mount as TJ- said about the whole thing
[19:53] <uioo> TJ-: 'recent knowledge' - I find this interesting, it's like when vegetarians say that they have difficulty remembering what meat tastes like.... sort of reminding oneself that one has distanced themselves from former things be it meat or Microsoft
[19:53] <TJ-> regedit: I'm not sure what Windows expects; you'd need to find that out to know the best format
[19:53] <EriC^^> oh, talking about windows too..
[19:53] <EriC^^> nevermind
[19:53] <uioo> TJ-: again with 'not sure what windows excpects'....
[19:53] <TJ-> EriC^^: we've already done that; the original issue was that there appeared to be a garbage partition table, but that was because an offset was used for the loop mount
[19:55] <regedit> generally if i asked "how should i dd my drive into an image i can mount and browse files & folders", would you suggest i do anything different than what i did?
[19:56] <TJ-> uioo: not especially; but I have no idea which particular part of Windows regedit is using to mount the image, or what that expects to find. If it can't mount this image then it seems clear it only expects a file-system image, not a raw disk with partition table
[19:56] <TJ-> regedit: dd is fine; what is important is *which* set of sectors you save... the entire device including partition table, or just the file-system
[19:57] <DoMiNaToR> Hello
[19:57] <xeth> evening
[19:57] <Saulo> (away) off.
[19:57] <regedit> TJ-: so would it have perhaps been simpler/easier if i did in fact dd the particular /dev/sdX*N* then?
[19:57] <xeth> mind if i ask a question?
[19:58] <DoMiNaToR> hello guys
[19:58] <DoMiNaToR> I have a problem to install chip ralink AWUS036NEH and my kali linux dont view the device
[19:58] <Pici> xeth: thats what this place is for
[19:58] <xeth> gnome3 or unity?
[19:58] <TJ-> regedit: "dd if=/dev/sdx1 of=/path/to/filesystem.img"
[19:58] <Pici> Whichever you like best
[19:58] <xeth> undecided
[19:58] <Pici> !kali | DoMiNaToR
[19:58] <daftykins> DoMiNaToR: Kali Linux is not supported in a channel called #ubuntu
[19:58] <Nikesh> Can one help repair a 'No Bootable Device' error on an UEFI laptop?
[19:58] <xeth> im looking for performance which is better?
[19:58] <daftykins> Nikesh: i told you yesterday the entire reason behind that one not working :)
[19:58] <regedit> TJ-: gotcha ok
[19:58] <xeth> looks can be changed
[19:58] <TJ-> Nikesh: is this the UEFI 32-bit bootable device?
[19:59] <daftykins> Nikesh: TJ- sure is
[19:59]  * TJ- runs off to dinner to avoid being drawn in :)
[19:59] <daftykins> 8D
[20:00] <regedit> TJ-: actually now that i have this entire drive image (not just specific filesystem/partition/wtvr) would it be easy for me to produce this filesystem-specific image off of it?
[20:00] <geekdinazor> hi, i have question about iptables
[20:00] <geekdinazor> can you help me ?
[20:00] <daftykins> geekdinazor: probably better in #ubuntu-server or ##networking then
[20:00] <loula> hi #ubuntu
[20:00] <regedit> oh TJ-ran off :)
[20:01] <Trinity> is there a way to have some applications use a vpn
[20:01] <Trinity> and others to not?
[20:01] <daftykins> Trinity: not easily probably.
[20:02] <loula> i've got a question : i'm searching for some Hamachi equivalent to play easily with a friend. I know hamachi has a linux version, but it seems there are issues communicating between different OSs. Does anyone knos about easy-to-use alternatives?
[20:03] <daftykins> loula: not easy, nope.
[20:03] <Trinity> daftykins: any suggestions on where to find some resources if I were interested?
[20:03] <loula> thanks daftykins . and "medium well documented" alternatives? :D
[20:03] <daftykins> Trinity: nope
[20:04] <daftykins> loula: you sure you need to be on the same network - not just port forward a game server?
[20:04] <daftykins> Trinity: better approach, VM the tasks you want on one side and VPN client that.
[20:04] <hydrian> Ello All
[20:04] <Trinity> daftykins: eh, :/ i guess thats one of the easiest ways
[20:04] <daftykins> Nikesh: is there a reason you refuse to accept the solution from me? :)
[20:05] <hydrian> I'm currently have a problem setting a samba share's create directory permissions
[20:05] <loula> daftykins, i have no skills to set up a server, so yeah, the simulated LAN is what i'm searching for
[20:05] <HexTq> loula take a look at freelan
[20:05] <daftykins> loula: no _game_ server, what are the things you're trying to play together?
[20:05] <loula> daftykins, minecraft
[20:05] <hydrian> I've set directory mask and force directory mode to 0770. But yet when I create a directory over the share I'm getting 0750
[20:05] <loula> HexTq, thanks
[20:05] <daftykins> loula: oh good lord that's the most basic of them all
[20:05] <Trinity> pretty sure there's a guide on setting up minecraft on ubuntu
[20:05] <hydrian> Any ideas?
[20:05] <EriC^^> hydrian: umask is for file creation
[20:06] <daftykins> loula: run it, forward a port, tell your friend to connect-  job done.
[20:06] <daftykins> Trinity: +1 roughly 2 million i'd imagine
[20:06] <daftykins> (guides)
[20:06] <HexTq> and 3 of them works today -.-
[20:06] <hydrian> EriC^^: I'm using the (force) directory mode/mask directives not the create mode/mask directives.
[20:06] <loula> daftykins, how do you "forward a port"?
[20:07] <daftykins> loula: look it up online for your model of router.
[20:07] <Nikesh> daftykins: Yes. I booted with Legacy mode and my keyboard wouldn't work to input anything into the installation fields
[20:07] <loula> oh, thanks
[20:07] <EriC^^> hydrian: ah ok, i don't know much about samba, sorry
[20:07] <Nikesh> daftykins: Actually, my touchpad either (I had to plug in a mouse)
[20:07] <HexTq> most likely you can do it over the webadmin ui of your router loula
[20:07] <daftykins> Nikesh: no i'm talking about the whole installing avoiding the 32-bit EFI issue - legacy was _YOUR_ idea if you remember.
[20:08] <loula> thanks daftykins HexTq i'm investigating this
[20:08] <HexTq> welcome
[20:09] <eshant> Do anyone know about a notebook app to make notes on?
[20:09] <HexTq> i use rednotebook
[20:11] <eshant> ok..any other alternative in your knowledge?
[20:11] <Nikesh> daftykins: Sorry, I'm confused what you mean
[20:11] <HexTq> i tried a couple but rednotebook is the best
[20:12] <Nikesh> daftykins: I thought you were suggesting to install via Legacy. What are rather, though?
[20:12] <HexTq> well... at least for my needs
[20:12] <eshant> ok great! thanks ! HexTq
[20:12] <jhutchins> eshant: vi
[20:13] <HexTq> thats a text editor
[20:13] <eshant> jhutchins: by notebook app, I also mean an app where I can do more than just writing text
[20:13] <jhutchins> eshant: More like what?
[20:13] <HexTq> rednotebook has calendar,timestap and #-s
[20:14] <jhutchins> Interesting.
[20:14] <eshant> where you can put diagrams/architecture also
[20:14] <HexTq> well that i dont know i just use text
[20:15] <jhutchins> Heh.  Already installed on my system.
[20:15] <eshant> I was searching on google and there are few apps like that, comparing all of them
[20:15] <daftykins> Nikesh: ok here it is for the second time then - http://askubuntu.com/questions/392719/32-bit-uefi-boot-support
[20:16] <NorrisBreeze> What is the best to install LAMP on Ubuntu Desktop 14.04?
[20:17] <daftykins> NorrisBreeze: sudo tasksel
[20:17] <Nikesh> daftykins: OK. I'm skeptical of that because I don't know where you think this is a 32-bit UEFI machine? Finally, just a few days ago I got this all working with Boot-Repair but I stupidly wanted to do a re-install
[20:17] <NorrisBreeze> Awesome!
[20:17] <Nikesh> daftykins: But now I can't figure out what I did previously to get it to work
[20:17] <daftykins> Nikesh: i know so because it's a windows 8.1 with Bing machine you said, which is what results in this
[20:17] <ash_work> apt-get install installs packages, right? and php5-pgsql is a package right? this is intended to avoid compiling PHP yourself, right? so why wouldn't the pg_connect function be available? hmm?
[20:18] <NorrisBreeze> I am new to Ubuntu, why isn't LAMP available in Software Center?
[20:18] <ash_work> I should check the info file I guess
[20:18] <daftykins> Nikesh: so you have two choices really, try it - or continue enjoying a non-working machine
[20:18] <Nikesh> daftykins: Interesting. My former experience says otherwise :P but I'll try it
[20:18] <Siente> my version of git is 1.9.1 how to update it to 2.5.0 ?
[20:19] <daftykins> Nikesh: what of the past makes you think it's untrue?
[20:19] <daftykins> Nikesh: you didn't even know what 32-bit EFI was prior to mention.
[20:19] <ash_work> or perhaps the modules aren't enabled or something
[20:20] <tsimonq2> Not that I am a Windows user or anything, but is it possible to do an install of Ubuntu on a fat16 partition?
[20:20] <daftykins> tsimonq2: no
[20:20] <Nikesh> daftykins: What I mean is, I didn't have to do anything special previous except run Boot-Repair, which possibly does the above magically, only this time it isn't working.
[20:20] <tsimonq2> daftykins: How about fat32?
[20:20] <Bashing-om> !lamp | NorrisBreeze
[20:20] <daftykins> tsimonq2: no. only compatible file systems
[20:21] <daftykins> NorrisBreeze: mmm as Bashing-om has pointed out, i think you need to do some research as to what it actually means ;)
[20:21] <HexTq> tsimonq2 you could using a live usb but on a hdd i dont think
[20:21] <daftykins> Nikesh: well what's your alternative? :)
[20:22] <AlternativElite> hi all, is there a way restart tightvncserver with the command line? could find the command online
[20:22] <Nikesh> daftykins: Haha, yeah..
[20:24] <NorrisBreeze> I understand what LAMP is. I am just trying to figure out why a version of LAMP is not available in Software Center. Is it because Software Center is so new?
[20:24] <AlternativElite> I need to restart the vncserver because I changed password and port, but don't want to reboot the computer
[20:25] <MrElendig> NorrisBreeze: lamp bundles are horrible
[20:25] <tsimonq2> daftykins: How about NTFS?
[20:25] <MrElendig> NorrisBreeze: you should install and configure each bit on its own
[20:25] <MrElendig> NorrisBreeze: or better, not use php and mysql (and apache)
[20:26] <reveredge> hey
[20:26] <HexTq> NTFS no way
[20:26] <reveredge> I want to create desktop application in Ubuntu
[20:26] <Bashing-om> NorrisBreeze: Lamp is not a package, it is a meta thing of many packages . From which you 'may' choose what you want to install .
[20:26] <reveredge> preferably using C++
[20:26] <daftykins> tsimonq2: only POSIX compatible file systems, so the EXTs only ideally.
[20:26] <reveredge> how shall I start
[20:26] <HexTq> get atom
[20:27] <MrElendig> reveredge: learn C first
[20:27] <MrElendig> then C++
[20:27] <tsimonq2> daftykins: So you are saying not ZFS or BTRFS?
[20:27] <MrElendig> then realise that there are better languages for the job out there and use one of those
[20:27] <daftykins> tsimonq2: look it up. you're wasting my time.
[20:27] <NorrisBreeze> Ok, thanks! So Software Center is for packages only, not "meta things" ?
[20:28] <MrElendig> NorrisBreeze: why do you want LAMP?
[20:28] <NorrisBreeze> for WordPress
[20:28] <MrElendig> reveredge: but if you *really* want to use C++, then read up on qt5
[20:28] <MrElendig> NorrisBreeze: you shouldn't run wordpress
[20:29] <MrElendig> NorrisBreeze: 1. it is *really* hard to secure  2. you probably don't need a dynamic site anyway for your blog
[20:29] <Nikesh> daftykins: So I just used Boot-Repair again and found the option to get it to work!
[20:29] <Nikesh> Booted into GRUB, now into Ubuntu
[20:29] <NorrisBreeze> Sorry, for WordPress desktop development
[20:29] <MrElendig> even worse :/
[20:30] <daftykins> Nikesh: so what was it?
[20:33] <Nikesh> daftykins: In 'Advanced options', 'GRUB Location' tab, check box 'Separate /boot/efi partion' and selected /dev/sda1 where I'd made a partition with /boot/efi mount point. In any case I can see that the link you gave me probably would have led to this without the need for Boot-Repair, so thanks for all your help
[20:35] <AurorasDream> how is ubuntu 16.04 ?
[20:35] <k1l_> AurorasDream: since the naming of the ubuntu version is Year.Month, there is no 16.04 yet
[20:35] <jhutchins> eshant: If you end up writing a summary/list/comparison I'd like to see it.  There was a system tray time tracker I used for a while and I have NO idea what it was called.
[20:36] <AurorasDream> 15.10 then
[20:37] <daftykins> AurorasDream: not out yet either
[20:37] <k1l_> AurorasDream: you can load a 15.10 alpha iso and test it yourself. for support of the development branches we have #ubuntu+1
[20:37] <daftykins> AurorasDream: notice how the names are year.month
[20:38] <AurorasDream> so 12.01 12.02 12.03 etc
[20:38] <AurorasDream> year 2012 month x
[20:38] <k1l_> !releases | AurorasDream
[20:38] <daftykins> sure is.
[20:41] <AlternativElite> daftykins: we spoke yesterday and you were right, changing port and password of vncserver did the trick. no attacks from China anymore.;)
[20:43] <arooni-mobile> hey everyone.  i'm trying to debug my wireless internet connection to the at&t router... it seems to keep dropping as evidenced by radiotray disconnecting a few times per hour.  is there a way to monitor via the command line to see if i have a persistent connection?
[20:44] <daftykins> arooni-mobile: sure, with ping
[20:45] <HexTq> did you look at nload or iftop ?
[20:45] <daftykins> arooni-mobile: have one infinitely pinging your router and one infinitely pinging a public website e.g. google.com , then when it goes down you can see if both fail.
[20:45] <arooni-mobile> daftykins, how can i know what IP address to ping for my router?
[20:45] <daftykins> you don't know your router's IP?
[20:45] <daftykins> type "ip route"
[20:45] <daftykins> it'll say "default via <IP>"
[20:45] <daftykins> likely that's it, maybe 192.168.x.x
[20:46] <arooni-mobile> default via 192.168.1.254 dev wlan0  proto static
[20:46] <daftykins> yep that's the one.
[20:50] <bouhafs> hello, how to autologin in lubuntu?
[20:51] <bouhafs> I used users-admin but not let me do that
[20:51] <OerHeks> in 15.04 systemsettings > user accounts
[20:51] <bouhafs> with sudo it crash just a white windows
[20:51] <bouhafs> OerHeks, thank again i'm in 14.10
[20:51] <OerHeks> uh,, why comandline? use the tool provided
[20:52] <OerHeks> ..14.10 ... isn that EOL?
[20:52] <bouhafs> EOL ? ended you means?
[20:52] <daftykins> OerHeks: sure is
[20:52] <daftykins> dead. as the dod
[20:52] <daftykins> dodo.
[20:53] <HexTq> thats a long time i read that dafty :D
[20:53] <OerHeks> bouhafs, you get no updates, right?
[20:53] <bouhafs> can i upgrade it and this will take many times?
[20:53] <bouhafs> yes
[20:53] <daftykins> HexTq: i like to crack out the classics for the special cases :>
[20:53] <HexTq> :D
[20:54] <bouhafs> so
[20:54] <HexTq> depends on your internet connections speed how long it takes mostly
[20:54] <OerHeks> + what is installed
[20:54] <bouhafs> my internet is very slow
[20:55] <OerHeks> upgrading is fun, cup of tea
[20:55] <daftykins> but backup first! :D
[20:55] <bouhafs> to download an iso that take 9 hours or more for less than 700M iso
[20:55] <Nikesh> daftykins: Bah, argle. On boot up it says 'Default boot device missing' -- It /does/ let me select the harddrive, but looks like I didn't quite get it. I'm giving your method a go now
[20:56] <daftykins> Nikesh: hmm i think you'd be better off with an expert to have a look
[20:56] <Nikesh> daftykins: I mean I can select the harddrive and boot into GRUB -> Ubuntu, but I don't want to have to do that every time
[20:56] <HexTq> Nikesh do you have one hdd?
[20:56] <Nikesh> HexTq: Yes
[20:56] <daftykins> select the HDD? you mean from the acer's boot menu?
[20:56] <Nikesh> HexTq: It gives two options - "Unknown HDD" and "Windows Boot loader" or something
[20:57] <Nikesh> daftykins: Yeah, BIOS Boot Menu
[20:57] <daftykins> yeah try changing your default inside the BIOS
[20:57] <bouhafs> with: sudo apt-get upgrade i see just 50M will be installed, is that correct?
[20:57] <daftykins> sounds like it's on the wrong device
[20:57] <HexTq> i dont followed your problem but with this selecting the hdd my first idea was you installed grub on a different hdd
[20:57] <daftykins> nah very special case, HexTq
[20:57] <Nikesh> daftykins: Not sure how to do that.. I moved the Windows loader to the bottom and the HDD to the top but it still asks
[20:57] <bouhafs> hello
[20:57] <spiritualgamer> Hello everyone
[20:57] <HexTq> upgrade only upgrades your current OS it does not upgrade to the next version
[20:58] <Pokinawa> spiritualgamer: Hola
[20:58] <daftykins> Nikesh: ok you need a boot expert to add an entry then perhaps.
[20:58] <Nikesh> Ah OK
[20:58] <spiritualgamer> Guayadeque won't play if I choose a new stream/file to play
[20:58] <bouhafs> so how to upgrade?
[20:58] <daftykins> !upgrade
[20:59] <spiritualgamer> actually, it only occurs after a stream
[20:59] <bouhafs> just sais the command man why i must read all the web site with my bad connexion
[20:59] <spiritualgamer> so if I stream something, I have to restart guayadeque in order to play or stream something else
[20:59] <daftykins> bouhafs: don't bring that attitude here.
[21:00] <bouhafs> i opened it i must wait for about 15 minutes or more for just reading one link
[21:00] <bouhafs> if it work
[21:00] <HexTq> is that a potato you use to connect to the internet? :)
[21:01] <bouhafs> yes
[21:01] <daftykins> if that were true we'll see you on 15.04 around about when *it* goes EOL too :)
[21:02] <HexTq> with 56k i did not wait so long for a website :D
[21:02] <wileee> bouhafs, If in your position I would download 14.04 the latest build, it has 5 years support and use it and upgrade/update when you can.
[21:02] <bouhafs> yes true, for that i'm here if any one have a simple solution
[21:02] <HexTq> i would suggest a clean install rather than a dist-upgrade
[21:03] <daftykins> dist-upgrade isn't even what's being done
[21:03] <HexTq> download iso-createusb-install
[21:03] <bouhafs> and now firefox just said no connexion what the helle
[21:03] <wileee> bouhafs, You would probably be best served by the longterm releases.
[21:04] <bouhafs> i downloaded some iso from internet when my neibord let me access to his modem in the past but now i have my own internet but not enought to do a hard things
[21:05] <HexTq> time to visit a coffehouse :D
[21:05] <bouhafs> HexTq, iso-create?
[21:05] <DJ> hey
[21:05] <HexTq> more like download iso -> createusb -> clean install :)
[21:06] <DJ> ;)
[21:06] <DJ> actually
[21:06] <bouhafs> but my internet is too slow to download
[21:06] <DJ> ubuntu is pretty usefull if u wanna create bootable usb disks ;D
[21:06] <DJ> just download the ISO
[21:06] <DJ> like
[21:06] <HexTq> thats why i suggested to visit a coffehouse they have usually free wifi
[21:06] <DJ> leave your pc running at night if you want :)
[21:06] <DJ> to download it
[21:06] <DJ> while you're sleeping
[21:07] <OerHeks> torrent resumes download if disconnected
[21:07] <wileee> bouhafs, This is support you have been given options. The problems you have on your end are your problems, you have to do what needs ti be done.
[21:07] <OerHeks> http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/
[21:07] <DJ> yeah
[21:07] <bouhafs> ok wileee i just asked if there are a solution
[21:08] <wileee> bouhafs, No magic here, you have been given the options available.
[21:08] <bouhafs> i just ask if possible to upgrade from 14.10 to 15.04
[21:08] <HexTq> hey and what if im actually a wizard
[21:08] <bouhafs> have you a solution?
[21:08] <wileee> HexTq, Stop the chat.
[21:08] <DJ> bouhafs yes
[21:09] <DJ> i know  there's a terminal command
[21:09] <DJ> that would let you
[21:09] <wileee> eol | bouhafs read the eol upgrade info.
[21:09] <bouhafs> please said it
[21:09] <DJ> wait i need to look it up
[21:09] <wileee> !eol | bouhafs read the eol upgrade info.
[21:09] <HexTq> i dont think upgrading from cli with a bad connection is an award winning idea
[21:10] <bouhafs> so you means it's not possible to upgrade from eol to lts? right?
[21:10] <DJ> my dad was running 10.04 LTS
[21:10] <daftykins> bouhafs: it is but you're going to have to read up on it, or follow the above advice.
[21:10] <DJ> i sucessfully upgraded his pc to 15.04
[21:10] <daftykins> cool story, DJ
[21:11] <DJ> ok :D
[21:11] <bouhafs> now the page is loade and i read it, i see nothing about how to upgrade: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[21:11] <wileee> HexTq, This is not a drama class, stick ti actual help, on topic.
[21:11] <EriC^^> bouhafs: check here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades
[21:12] <DJ> ok i found the command u want bouhafs
[21:12] <bouhafs> omg another link i will wait another 20 minutes
[21:12] <EriC^^> bouhafs: you need to change archive.ubuntu.com to old-releases.ubuntu.com in your sources.list i think, and then run the do-release-upgrade command
[21:12] <bouhafs> please DJ said it
[21:12] <HexTq> well sorry i have some humour left for mankind and bothered you with it mate
[21:12] <DJ> yeah
[21:12] <DJ> eric already said it
[21:12] <bouhafs> cool thank's EriC^^ you are fast
[21:12] <DJ>  do-release-upgrade
[21:12] <DJ> i was gonna say this
[21:13] <DJ> sudo  apt-get dist-upgrade
[21:13] <DJ> but that prob wont work
[21:13] <daftykins> bouhafs: you do understand that if you go to 15.04 you will be in this exact same situation in January?
[21:13] <bouhafs> thank you this is the real help
[21:13] <HexTq> dont do that on a connection where it takes a website 20m to load
[21:13] <DJ> yeah
[21:13] <daftykins> no it's handing you the answers when you refuse to read a link - that's not help
[21:13] <HexTq> dafty thats what people understand under help
[21:14] <EriC^^> i gave him the link and a tiny overview of what's involved
[21:14] <daftykins> i think the main issue of ending up in this situation again come January is unwise to be overlooked
[21:14] <bouhafs> daftykins, i readed the link you puted and i found nothing just eol = blabla and lts = blabla
[21:14] <daftykins> but nevermind, you can't save them all.
[21:14] <DJ> eol is end of licence
[21:14] <daftykins> life.
[21:14] <teward> !eol
[21:14] <HexTq> i would not save them all even if i could
[21:15] <teward> DJ: End of Life (see the ubottu comment on EOL)
[21:15] <DJ> yeah
[21:15] <DJ> LTS is long term support
[21:15] <daftykins> bouhafs: there were two links on the response :) you missed one
[21:15] <DJ> 5 years instead of 9 months support
[21:15] <daftykins> DJ: please stop
[21:15] <DJ> stop what?
[21:15] <daftykins> we already have a channel bot
[21:16] <bouhafs> if the user need help and you said go to this link or other it is not help, he can do that from google, he need a real help and prefered fast one
[21:16] <HexTq> TIL about sudo !! :D
[21:16] <DJ> im not botting :/
[21:16] <DJ> i dont have a bot running
[21:16] <DJ> at all
[21:16] <DJ> sorry if its seems like it
[21:16] <daftykins> DJ: nevermind you didn't understand.
[21:16] <DJ> ?
[21:16] <daftykins> bouhafs: you still don't understand that the release 15.04 if you upgrade to it, will only be usable for another 5 months
[21:17] <daftykins> then you will be here again :)
[21:17] <DJ> yeah ;D
[21:17] <DJ> i will upgrade to 15.10 wheneger it gets released
[21:17] <bouhafs> omg just 5 mounth?
[21:17] <DJ> yeah
[21:17] <DJ> its annoying :/
[21:17] <bouhafs> so why you said how to upgrade than?
[21:17] <daftykins> i think you'll find i actually never did.
[21:18] <daftykins> others were telling you to upgrade :)
[21:18] <daftykins> you were too busy complaining about my response to actually understand the bigger picture
[21:18] <daftykins> now, multiple people told you to switch to 14.04
[21:18] <bouhafs> so what i can do in this case?
[21:18] <daftykins> so backup - download 14.04, clean install - and you'll be fine until 2019.
[21:19] <DJ> wait
[21:19] <DJ> is 15.04 EOL?
[21:19] <HexTq> actually you will be fine if you dont do anything at all
[21:19] <EriC^^> DJ: no, it's supported for 9months
[21:19] <DJ> oh k
[21:19] <bouhafs> wait a second i will check if i have iso for 14.04
[21:20] <DJ> hmm
[21:20] <DJ> 'failed to get repository information'
[21:20] <DJ> what do i do?
[21:20] <daftykins> HexTq: also wrong, EOL = insecure
[21:20] <DJ> yup
[21:20] <HexTq> thats true
[21:20] <DJ> thats why i upgraded my dads pc to 15.04
[21:20] <kadiro> hello
[21:20] <DJ> coz he was running 10.04
[21:20] <HexTq> but it was fine running 10.04 wasnt it
[21:20] <DJ> kadiro: hey
[21:21] <DJ> yeah it was
[21:21] <OneM_Industries> How would I find the speed of the various drives in my box? I am not sure, but I think one drive is 3Gb/s, and the other is 6Gb/s.
[21:21] <HexTq> its not like there is a countdown and then it nukes the os :)
[21:21] <DJ> yeah :D
[21:21] <DJ> but my dad needed 12 or later
[21:21] <daftykins> OneM_Industries: for what purpose?
[21:21] <DJ> so i upgraded to 15
[21:21] <DJ> he needed it for a ID card reader
[21:21] <HexTq> i have a friend running gutsy gibbon
[21:22] <daftykins> those are lovely stories guys, but this is a support channel
[21:22] <daftykins> !ot
[21:22] <daftykins> please move the talk to offtopic.
[21:22] <DJ> !help
[21:22] <bouhafs> i have kubuntu 12.04.1 it's ok for an old pc?
[21:22] <OneM_Industries> daftykins: Just curious.
[21:22] <DJ> bouhafs yes
[21:22] <DJ> guys
[21:22] <bouhafs> true daftykins ?
[21:23] <Jordan_U> HexTq: Running EOL releases is incredibly insecure as they all have *known* *unpatched* security vulnerabilities. We do not recommend or support using EOL releases in any way.
[21:23] <DJ> what do i do when i get cannot get repository information on update centerN
[21:23] <DJ> what do i do when i get cannot get repository information on update center?
[21:23] <bouhafs> kubuntu 12.04.1
[21:23] <DJ> nvm
[21:23] <EriC^^> DJ: open a terminal and type sudo apt-get update
[21:23] <daftykins> bouhafs: run what you like, that's very old and will need lots of updates. you'd be better off downloading 14.04 fresh
[21:23] <DJ> yeah
[21:23] <EriC^^> see what it says
[21:23] <DJ> i just hit retry
[21:24] <DJ> i think it just failed connecting somewhere ;D
[21:24] <DJ> im installing updates right now
[21:24] <HexTq> i did not say its safe. i told him he will be fine for the couple next months before getting the new lts
[21:24] <bouhafs> ok thank you daftykins
[21:24] <EriC^^> bouhafs: kde is pretty heavy if it's an old pc
[21:24] <EriC^^> how old are we talking?
[21:24] <DJ> ;/
[21:24] <reisio> well, it depends on the graphics hardware, mostly
[21:25] <reisio> old with onboard only, you're going to hurt
[21:25] <DJ> yeah
[21:25] <DJ> thats true
[21:25] <bouhafs> is an G31D-m7 with 1G ram
[21:25] <reisio> old with a dedicated gpu, you'll be fine
[21:25] <DJ> basically my dads pc is old
[21:25] <DJ> with onboard
[21:25] <Daphko> Hello, is it possible to handle virtualhosts when request was passed forward from an proxy reverse ?
[21:25] <daftykins> 1GB RAM? oh dear.
[21:25] <reisio> don't need eye candy anyway
[21:25] <DJ> im running at 8GB ram
[21:25] <bouhafs> oh
[21:25] <DJ> ok
[21:26] <DJ> if u need a lightweight ubuntu version
[21:26] <DJ> get xubuntu ;D
[21:26] <OneM_Industries> lubuntu works as well.
[21:26] <ira_> or lubuntu
[21:26] <HexTq> or just install xfce and change the de
[21:26] <DJ> yep
[21:26] <daftykins> DJ: please cut the chat.
[21:26] <DJ> what?
[21:26] <daftykins> #ubuntu-offtopic for that.
[21:26] <bouhafs> if i install kubuntu and then try another DE like xfce or lxde it will be fine?
[21:26] <DJ> ok
[21:27] <HexTq> it will be fine yes, you dont need to install another system just the de
[21:27] <DJ> bouhafs: i think so
[21:27] <bouhafs> i have karmic ubuntu too i know is very old /D
[21:27] <Daphko> have anybody experience ?
[21:27] <bouhafs> :D
[21:27] <bouhafs> 12.04 is an lts right?
[21:27] <daftykins> Daphko: you're better off with #ubuntu-server i think
[21:27] <daftykins> !12.04
[21:28] <Daphko> i will try
[21:28] <Daphko> thx
[21:28] <daftykins> yes but 12.04.1 is out of date
[21:28] <bouhafs> cool thank's guys i will install it right now
[21:28] <DJ> sorry my xchat crashed ;/
[21:28] <HexTq> ohboy
[21:29] <Jordan_U> bouhafs: I would still recommend installing 14.04 LTS over 12.04 LTS unless you have a very compelling reason to go with the former.
[21:29] <Jordan_U> s/former/latter/
[21:30] <poppe> does anyone know how to get the latest kernel source? it should be a tar.gz? I found this page but I dont find the tar.gz https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/utopic/ppc64el/linux-source-3.16.0/3.16.0-44.59
[21:31] <bouhafs> ok Jordan_U thank you i just wont to install it the time to download 14.04 with my bad and slow connexion i understand all yours sugession :)
[21:31] <daftykins> poppe: that's a utopic kernel though, better off moving to the vivid HWE if you're in 14.04
[21:32] <kadiro> bouhafs: yes 14.04 is good and if you have an old pc try lxde i means lubuntu or xubuntu
[21:32] <bouhafs> ok thank you kadiro
[21:33] <bouhafs> see you later guys, thk's for your help
[21:33] <kadiro> you welcome bouhafs
[21:33] <bouhafs> :)
[21:34] <poppe> daftykins sorry I dont understand. I just need a stable kernel that I can recompile due to a hw bug. I would like a good one and I just installed so everything is new. do you have a link?
[21:34] <backbox> hi]
[21:34] <daftykins> poppe: which version did you install?
[21:34] <daftykins> !backbox | backbox
[21:34] <ubuntu90> with Windows but I want to put and ubuntu but not remove the Windows installation but shows me that the HDD is full and not divided
[21:35] <backbox> em using on mac
[21:35] <backbox> os x
[21:35] <backbox> em new
[21:35] <daftykins> backbox: and you're typing from backbox which isn't supported here :)
[21:36] <Jordan_U> poppe: You can use "apt-get source packagename" to get the source package for "packagename". This will get you something better than a tar.gz (though a tar.gz will be part of it) as it will build to a proper .deb file and will include all of the expected Ubuntu patches.
[21:36] <backbox> yup em using backbox,n kaali linux and backtrack
[21:36] <ubuntu90> help me
[21:36] <poppe> daftykins:Ubuntu 14.04.3
[21:37] <daftykins> poppe: so you should be on the 3.19 kernel
[21:37] <EriC^^> ubuntu90: did you shrink the partition in windows?
[21:37] <backbox> hi
[21:38] <daftykins> backbox: yep so none of those can be spoken of in here, just so you know.
 I use a book linxu kernel in a nutshell. it is old but i think it would be best to just follow the procedures there from a tarball
[21:39] <poppe> daftykins is there a way to get the source for that kernel?
[21:39] <poppe> I could not find it online...
[21:40] <daftykins> poppe: "uname -r" show your running kernel, "dpkg -l | grep linux-image" show the package names installed, "apt source <packagename>" will download the source according to results online
[21:41] <DJ> hey guys
[21:41] <daftykins> (don't use sudo on the last one, apparently.)
[21:41] <Jordan_U> poppe: What exactly is your end goal? What buggy hardware do you have and how will recompiling your kernel help you?
[21:41] <ubuntu90> EriC^^> I made a new partition separate but installation I get the whole HDD and not parts
[21:41] <DJ> how do i stop the quake-server process clogging up the CPU
[21:41] <EriC^^> ubuntu90: can you take a screenshot of the installer's partitioner?
[21:42] <DJ> hey guys how do i stop processes from clogging up my CPU whenever i log in?
[21:42] <tyuyui> hi ther
[21:42] <tyuyui> i got this error
[21:42] <tyuyui> when i try to open an application over server x
[21:42] <daftykins> i can't see it
[21:42] <tyuyui> i got this Error: no display specified
[21:42] <tyuyui> from windows pc
[21:43] <poppe> Jordan_U: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/config_sata_pmp%3Dn-hw-bug-live-arch-debian-mint-does-not-work-4175549085/
[21:43] <tyuyui> with putty / xming ?
[21:43] <poppe> daftykins ok thanks I will try that!!! :)
[21:44] <Jordan_U> Tuna-Fish: Please try to write complete sentences, with proper punctuation, and include all information in a single message to keep this channel less cluttered and easier to read.
[21:46] <ubuntu90> when I ask to determine the shares do not go out and the entire share
[21:47] <EriC^^> ubuntu90: try prntscrn or alt+prntscrn
[21:48] <Jordan_U> tyuyui: Please try to write complete sentences, with proper punctuation, and include all information in a single message to keep this channel less cluttered and easier to read. Is X11 forwarding enabled in Putty?
[21:49] <reisio> good grief the installer for 15 is slow
[21:49] <reisio> even the mini
[21:49] <tyuyui> yes of course
[21:49] <reisio> going to compare to debian's installer, this can't be right
[21:51] <EriC^^> ubuntu90: upload on imgur.com and paste the link here
[21:51] <Whitehatballer> is any one else having problems with vpns on ubuntu 14
[21:51] <daftykins> newp mines working great.
[21:52] <ubuntu90> http://i.imgur.com/s187PTw.png
[21:52] <Jordan_U> Whitehatballer: The answer to questions like that is almost always "no". To get support, please just state the problem you're having in detail.
[21:52] <Whitehatballer> must be my isp dns hyjacking
[21:53] <EriC^^> ubuntu90: open a terminal and type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[21:53] <Whitehatballer> vps dont connect. open or PPTP
[21:55] <BlueProtoman> I'm trying to update my graphics drivers (on a laptop running Ubuntu 15.04, and two GPUs via Optimus), but whenever I try my graphics break.  And I've been able to use Optimus before!  http://askubuntu.com/questions/666615/upgrading-to-newest-nvidia-drivers-on-a-laptop-that-uses-optimus  Any thoughts?
[21:57] <ubuntu90> Warning: /dev/sda contains GPT signatures, indicating that it has a GPT table.
[21:57] <ubuntu90> However, it does not have a valid fake msdos partition table, as it should.
[21:57] <ubuntu90> Perhaps it was corrupted -- possibly by a program that doesn't understand GPT
[21:57] <ubuntu90> partition tables.  Or perhaps you deleted the GPT table, and are now using an
[21:57] <ubuntu90> msdos partition table.  Is this a GPT partition table?
[21:57] <ubuntu90> Yes/No?
[21:58] <EriC^^> ubuntu90: type sudo fixparts /dev/sda
[21:58] <EriC^^> if it says it detected stray gpt data, press fix
[21:59] <IamTrying> Is Ubuntu 15.04 now stable? i stop using Ubuntu for about 1 year because it was not stable and crashed in the middle of serious tasks. then switched to OSX.
[22:00] <tsimonq2> IamTrying: Yes
[22:01] <tsimonq2> IamTrying: Although if you want to be REALLY safe, use 14.04
[22:01] <tsimonq2> IamTrying: Because it is LTS
[22:01] <Nikesh> In the 'Something else' installation I see a /dev/sda1 partition that is 629MB and ntfs. This was previously a windows machine. The next partition is /dev/sda2 efi -- Can I get rid of /dev/sda1 ?
[22:01] <daftykins> i'd nuke the disk totally to install just ubuntu
[22:01] <daftykins> you should've done that last time :)
[22:01] <daftykins> Nikesh: need any data on the drive at all?
[22:01] <TJ-> Nikesh: sda1 *may* be a Acer/Windows Recovery image
[22:02] <daftykins> nah they put them at the end usually with EFI
[22:02] <ivan_> hi
[22:02] <ubuntu90> Warning: 0xEE partition doesn't start on sector 1. This can cause problems
[22:02] <ubuntu90> in some OSes.
[22:02] <ubuntu90> MBR command (? for help):
[22:02] <IamTrying> tsimonq2: 14.04 i used but it was crashing many times. not stable like OSX, OSX never ever cheat with me it never ever crashed. 14.04 crashed in the middle of simple Google chrome kiosk activity.
[22:02] <daftykins> well it is recovery but not the real recovery, if you get me ;)
[22:02] <EriC^^> ubuntu90: did it mention anything about stray gpt?
[22:02] <TJ-> Yup, it's the PXE env
[22:02] <Nikesh> daftykins: I /did/ do that last time and now I'm following the guide that you linked, which suggests keeping the efi partition as it is
[22:03] <TJ-> s/PXE/PBE/
[22:03] <Nikesh> TJ-: seems likely
[22:03] <ivan_> goodbye
[22:03] <EriC^^> ubuntu90: did you type fixparts or fdisk?
[22:03] <daftykins> Nikesh: no you didn't wipe it since Windows parts have remained. why do you continue to try and say something else when the evidence speaks for itself?
[22:03] <BlueProtoman> daftykins: I remembered why I wanted the latest graphics drivers; for the experimental version of Unity 3D that just came out for Linux
[22:03] <Nikesh> daftykins: Sorry, you missed part of the story
[22:03] <daftykins> BlueProtoman: that's nice
[22:03] <Nikesh> daftykins: In following the guide I re-installed Windows in order to preserve the EFI partition
[22:03] <the_count> Bashing-om: Ok, totally handicapped now, my entire touchpad stopped working if you recall from last time, some functions were disabled. I think we have some major software errors now...
[22:04] <Nikesh> daftykins: but yes, previously I wiped it all
[22:04] <tsimonq2> IamTrying: It is much more stable now then earlier...
[22:04] <tsimonq2> IamTrying: But go ahead
[22:04] <nuraljihad> gş
[22:04] <nuraljihad> hi
[22:04] <tsimonq2> IamTrying: Try it it out...and if it crashes, submit a bug report
[22:04] <Nikesh> daftykins: So I re-installed Windows to get the EFI partition back, and now I'm back in the Ubuntu install and doing as the guide suggests, to keep the EFI partition
[22:04] <ubuntu90> tenks men is running
[22:05] <daftykins> Nikesh: ok
[22:05] <ivan_> install epson driver for ubuntu
[22:05] <daftykins> ivan_: is that a question?
[22:05] <the_count> Bashing-om: So, if we can, I would like to resolve the issue now, if you are avaliable
[22:05] <Bashing-om> the_count: " xserver-xorg-input-synaptics " ??
[22:05] <the_count> Yes
[22:05] <ivan_> that true
[22:05] <the_count> Bashing-om: I think so
[22:06] <EriC^^> ubuntu90: no problem
[22:06] <IamTrying> tsimonq2: now in Linux is it possible to use the mouse track like Macbook air? in OSX you can use the laptop mouse in many tricky way, OSX made me addicted on that
[22:07] <tsimonq2> IamTrying: Yes, and if not, we can help you get it working
[22:08] <IamTrying> OK - great thanks tsimonq2
[22:08] <tsimonq2> IamTrying: The point is, in OS X, when something breaks, you can't easily fix it(without hours of research). With Linux, there are people here 24/7/365 to help you get it up and running again. So give Ubuntu a try again, and if a certain distro crashes for you, get it fixed.
[22:08] <Bashing-om> the_count: 1st is to make sure the package manager is in a stable state . What does the system relate ' sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get upgrade ; sudo apt-get -f install ; sudo dpkg -C ' .
[22:09] <the_count> Bashing-om: A touch ahead of you, doing that now.
[22:10] <the_count> Bashing-om: A little handicapped, no touchpad... I'm getting along fine so far though. What operating system do you use?
[22:10] <tsimonq2> Does someone know if it is theoretically possible to make a LFS distro into Ubuntu? You know, install apt-get, edit the sources.list, etc. to make it exactly like an Ubuntu install?
[22:10] <IamTrying> tsimonq2: i am by heart linux. i moved away from linux completely because it was crashing in the middle of my enterprise activity, since i went to OSX at-least was not getting crashed but was able to continue my work. Honestly speaking OSX is not my stuff i still use ssh on it and terminal only, i was taking a break from linux so that i have stable linux after a year. i hope its time to use it again.
[22:11] <IamTrying> Anyway thank you
[22:11] <Bashing-om> the_count: I run a roll my own, with ubuntu 14.04 repository .
[22:11] <the_count> Bashing-om: Ok, completed all those succesfully, and what do you mean by a roll of your own?
[22:12] <Bashing-om> the_count: Compile a kernel, add what you want to that base .
[22:12] <Jordan_U> tsimonq2: That question is more for #ubuntu-offtopic as it's not support related.
[22:12] <the_count> Bashing-om: Does that give you more flexibility, or is it just fun to do?
[22:13] <tsimonq2> Jordan_U: Ok, thanks
[22:13] <Jordan_U> tsimonq2: You're welcome.
[22:13] <Bashing-om> the_count: So, the package manager is happy ? and does not report any problems or errors ?
[22:13] <the_count> Yes, happy, no errors.
[22:14] <Bashing-om> the_count: It gives me a very light, configurable install that is very fast on this old hardware .
[22:14] <the_count> Bashing-om: How old is that?
[22:15] <Bashing-om> the_count: 2007, dual core Athlon chip set for the cpu .
[22:15] <the_count> Bashing-om: I was thinking a bit older than that... But hey, it works...
[22:16] <the_count> Bashing-om: The flexibility of Linux...
[22:17] <Bashing-om> the_count: Back to support - the problem at hand. Pastebin the outpit ' dpkg -l xserver-xorg-input-synaptics ' . Let's see where we go from there .
[22:17] <Bashing-om> output*
[22:18] <the_count> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12210002/ is there any way I cane use pipes to copy the pastebin output?
[22:19] <Bashing-om> the_count: Sorry, I thouhgt that you knew . Teah pipe it ! ' dpkg -l xserver-xorg-input-synaptics | pastebinit ' If you have the "pastebinot" tool installed.
[22:22] <the_count> Bashing-om: Not follownig you, I have pastebinit installed, so like: ' dpkg -l xserver-xorg-input-synaptics | pastebinit | something_to_copy_to_clipboard_here '
[22:22] <Bashing-om> the_count: So, not installed.  Is there a possile conflict installed ? ' dpkg -l xorg-driver-synaptics | pastebinit ' .
[22:22] <Bashing-om> the_count: The result from pastebinit is a URL back to your terminal.
[22:23] <the_count> I know, is there any way to pass that to the clipboard after pastebinit handles it?
[22:23] <EriC^^> the_count: | pastebinit | xclip
[22:23] <EriC^^> maybe
[22:23] <the_count> Ok
[22:24] <EriC^^> the_count: pastebinit | xsel , then shift+insert to paste
[22:24] <Bashing-om> the_count: EriC^^ :) .. or maybe redirect to a file and upload the file to pastebin .
[22:24] <EriC^^> it'll send a newline though so as soon as you paste it'll enter
[22:24] <BlueProtoman> I'm trying to update my graphics drivers (on a laptop running Ubuntu 15.04, and two GPUs via Optimus) so I can use the new experimental build of Unity 3D, but whenever I try my graphics break.  And I've been able to use Optimus before!  http://askubuntu.com/q/666615/61195  Any thoughts?
[22:25] <EriC^^> Bashing-om: he means the link itself how to put it in the clipboard
[22:25] <Bashing-om> EriC^^: Thanks, Hey I can get real dense sometimes !
[22:26] <the_count> BEriC^^: What do you mean by shift+insert, what key does insert map to?
[22:26] <the_count> Bashing-om:
[22:27] <EriC^^> shift+insert is like middle mouse button
[22:27] <the_count> EriC^^: I don't have a middle mouse button
[22:27] <HexTq> but you have a key named insert :)
[22:27] <EriC^^> ok, so press shift+insert
[22:27] <EriC^^> should be near home del etc.
[22:27] <the_count> EriC^^: My keyboard doesn't
[22:28] <the_count> Ok, I see it now
[22:28] <the_count> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12210090/
[22:28] <crahan1> pressing left and right mousebutton at the same time simulates a middle mouse button click, no?
[22:28] <the_count> Got it, thank you
[22:28] <the_count> Yes, I have no mouse right now.
[22:28] <crahan1> ah ok, sorry for interrupting :)
[22:28] <the_count> You're fine
[22:29] <the_count> Just for kicks, trying to paste this again... http://paste.ubuntu.com/12210122/
[22:30] <the_count> EriC^^: WHat is the difference between xsel and xclip?
[22:31] <the_count> Bashing-om: Did you get that link?
[22:31] <Bashing-om> the_count: OK, now we try and install the driver: ' sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-input-synaptics ' . See what results .
[22:31] <EriC^^> the_count: i think xclip sends to the other clipboard (the one where you press ctrl+c and ctrl+v to copy and paste)
[22:32] <EriC^^> the_count: xsel is for the selection clipboard, if you highlight something and type xsel in a terminal it'll show up
[22:32] <john_rambo> Using Lubuntu 14.04 atm ...... trying to install kubuntu-desktop but getting this error http://paste2.org/1H4NxX6b ...... How to solve this ?
[22:33] <the_count> BAshing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12210140/
[22:36] <salmonhatt> Afternoon/Evening/Whatever.
[22:36] <salmonhatt> Anyone else had issues with video playback clipping?
[22:36] <Bashing-om> the_count: We;;, that is different than before, and reall odd ! .. OK what returns ' dpkg -l xorg-input-abi-20 ; xserver-xorg-core ' And ' apt-cache policy xorg-input-abi-20 xserver-xorg-core ' ?
[22:37] <mariano> I have windows server essentials with shared folders. I'm want to connect to those shares from xubuntu. I tried to open windows network from thunar but I    get the error message "failed to open windows network" and "failed to retrieve shares list from server: No such file or directory".
[22:37] <reisio> salmonhatt: ...
[22:38] <Bashing-om> the_count: Typo ! ' dpkg -l xorg-input-abi-20  xserver-xorg-core ' .
[22:39] <the_count> Bashing-om: Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12210189/
[22:40] <salmonhatt> reisio: not the best description, I know.
[22:40] <the_count> Bashing-om: It also says: " dpkg-query: no packages found matching xorg-input-abi-20
[22:40] <reisio> salmonhatt: wasn't a description at all
[22:41] <salmonhatt> Whenver there's a lot of panning or zooming, the image appears to have a slice in it, and part of the frame is off-center
[22:43] <the_count> Bashing-om: Second one: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12210202/
[22:45] <Bashing-om> the_count: ' sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core ' . Then we look at the other IF that goes well .
[22:45] <OerHeks> any PPA installed?
[22:46] <the_count> BAshing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12210222/
[22:47] <the_count> BAshing-om: and E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by heald packages
[22:47] <the_count> Bashing-om: Sorry, held
[22:47] <Bashing-om> OerHeks: the_count So far I do not see a PPA involved. versions match 14.04 .
[22:48] <Bashing-om> the_count: "held packages ' ?/ But you said the package manager was in a happy state .
[22:49] <the_count> Bashing-om: That is what it said when we did the first 4 initial tests, and it was indeed happy.
[22:49] <Bashing-om> the_count: Show us ' sudo apt upgrade ' . ( just because I like 'apt' better ) .
[22:50] <the_count> Bashing-om: It did not return any errors, we can try again... I have been using apt to install packages since you told me about it. It is a bit cleaner I think...
[22:51] <the_count> Ok, no errors, nothing to install, noting to remove, nothing to upgrade
[22:51] <Bashing-om> the_count: K, But I want the assurance of what apt relates; to see that output myself .
[22:53] <the_count> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12210269/
[22:54] <the_count> Bashing-om: Apparently apt does not have a stable CLI interfae yet. Use it with caution in scripts...
[22:57] <Bashing-om> the_count: Yeah, 'apt' presently does have some grwing pains. // OK, the advisory of "held packages do raise the PPA flag ! What sources are available ? ' cat -n /etc/apt/sources.list ; tail -v -n +1 /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* ' . Into the pastebin - let's look at what might generate the 'held packages' .
[22:57] <Bashing-om> growing*
[23:00] <the_count> Bashing-om, you can try htis, but I don't think that anything was put in it: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12210339/
[23:01] <the_count> this
[23:01] <the_count> I'm going to try to copy it manually
[23:03] <Bashing-om> the_count: I expect that the result is same same ' ls -al /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ ' will also show no PPAs .
[23:03] <the_count> was you able to see the result?
[23:04] <Bashing-om> the_count: " was you able to see the result? " Huh ? I did look at the http://paste.ubuntu.com/12210339/ paste .
[23:04] <the_count> Bashing-om: It didn't act like it copied it.
[23:05] <the_count> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12210392/
[23:08] <the_count> Bashing-om: Is that what you needed?
[23:08] <the_count> Bashing-om: What does held mean?
[23:11] <Bashing-om> the_count: 'held' is the condition of a package to be installed, that for some reasin the package manger is not going to install it . // I see no obvious conflict in those PPAs. // What happens with ' sudo apt-get install xorg-input-abi-20 ' ?
[23:11] <the_count> Bashing-om: I made a typo: http://pste.ubuntu.com/12210418/ That was from before
[23:13] <the_count> Bashing-om: And then the last request: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12210441/
[23:14] <the_count> BAshing-om: and E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by heald packages // Again
[23:14] <the_count> And, I made the same typo
[23:16] <Bashing-om> the_count: Show me that result from the attempted install . Presently I just do not know where the condition is generated from .
[23:17] <joao__> er.. e?
[23:18] <the_count> Bashing-om: Ok, I performed ' sudo apt update and sudo apt upgrade ' And The upgrade returned no errors this time. And, what result from the attemted install? ' sudp apt-get install xorg-input-abi-20 '?
[23:22] <the_count> Bashing-om: It will install software just fine...
[23:22] <the_count> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12210513/
[23:23] <the_count> Bashing-om: and this same error again ' E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by heald packages '
[23:24] <the_count> joao__: ??
[23:27] <Bashing-om> the_count: k: .. let's see what we can find out for the why. What returns ' dpkg -l libcheese-gtk23 libcheese7 ;  apt-cache policy libcheese-gtk23 libcheese7 ' ?
[23:29] <the_count> One sec
[23:30] <the_count> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12210554/
[23:34] <Bashing-om> the_count:  Those versions for libcheese7 are correct .. gotta think bout this a moment or so !
[23:34] <the_count> Bashing-om: Take all the time you feel you need, because I sure can't fix it.
[23:35] <fluvvell> i have system load at 3.35 and can't figure out why, new install of 15.04 not booting fully into graphics, intel pentim Acer E5
[23:35] <fluvvell> *pentium
[23:35] <Bashing-om> the_count: What does 'dpkg' tell us about what is installed for libchees7 ?
[23:36] <fluvvell> can anyone help me reconfigure my graphics ?
[23:36] <the_count> Bashing-om: would that be: dpkg -l libcheese7?
[23:38] <Bashing-om> the_count: ' dpkg -l libcheese-gtk23 libcheese7 ' to see what the condition of of/what is installed .
[23:38] <the_count> Bashing-om: If so, here is the link: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12210584/
[23:39] <the_count> Bashing-om: Ok, I'll get the other one for you in a sec...
[23:39] <the_count> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12210591/
[23:41] <ra122> howdy there, have a quick question for you all
[23:41] <ra122> more a linux or a debian question, rather than just ubuntu - is there any way to change what hostname is broadcasted, rather than the hostname that the local system knows?
[23:42] <ra122> (e.g. same hostname in the console, etc.) - or would that cause networking problems?
[23:42] <Nikesh> Any ideas how to address 'Error code 0xc000025' (from Windows boot partition, looks like) after install Ubuntu in UEFI?
[23:43] <Jordan_U> ra122: Are you actually using Ubuntu?
[23:43] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | Nikesh
[23:43] <ra122> Jordan_U: debian-based distro. i'm aware that this channel is designated for ubuntu in particular, but i'd figure that the talent/commands might be the same
[23:43] <Bashing-om> the_count: Correct versions are fully installed. So this " Depends: libcheese-gtk23 (>= 3.4.0) but it is not going to be installed " presently does not make a lot of sense .
[23:44] <jeffreylevesque> i created an upstart script in `/etc/init/`.  but, running as `sudo service thing start` yields unrecognized service.  But, it i do `sudo initctl start thing` it works
[23:44] <jeffreylevesque> is there a difference?
[23:44] <Nikesh> Jordan_U: OK, will try
[23:44] <the_count> Bashing-om: I agree with you, so, is there some way to reset dpkg or something along those sorts?
[23:46] <the_count> I find this crazy, just using 2 terminals and unity with wifi, my battery has only went down 10% in the last 2 hours...
[23:47] <the_count> Bashing-om: Or, Check and reinstall everything? Another question, could autoremove hurt or cause the situation?
[23:48] <Bashing-om> the_count: Scratching my head as " info xorg-input-abi-20 trusty >>  Package xorg-input-abi-20 does not exist in trusty ".
[23:49] <the_count> Bashing-om: WHat would happen if we removed it? Or would trusty not recognize that it is in here in the first place?
[23:49] <Bashing-om> the_count: In respect to "autoremove" generally a good thing, but in the case of a package inconsistency can cause issues .
[23:49] <the_count> Bashing-om: I have used it a couple times after removing applications.
[23:51] <Nikesh> Jordan_U: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12210664
[23:52] <the_count> Bashing-om: So, have we tried this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/610505/broken-packages-error-while-trying-to-install-xserver-xorg-input-mtrack
[23:53] <Bashing-om> the_count: Not at all sure what is going on here as " apt-cache show xorg-input-abi-20 >> N: Can't select versions from package 'xorg-input-abi-20' as it is purely virtual - N: No packages found "
[23:53] <Jordan_U> Nikesh: Do you get the same error if you boot Windows directly from your boot firmmware menus, rather than through grub?
[23:53] <Nikesh> Jordan_U: Sorry, I'm not wanting dual boot so somehow that windows partition is a side effect
[23:53] <OerHeks> so, the last comment, "  xorg-input-abi-20 is present in other packages xserver-xorg-core-udeb and xserver-xorg-core So try to install xserver-xorg-core manually," does not work?
[23:54] <the_count> Bashing-om: I don't know if this would even do anyhting, but: http://askubuntu.com/questions/607693/unmet-dependencies-for-synaptics-touchpad-driver
[23:54] <Nikesh> Jordan_U: I was following this --> http://www.jfwhome.com/2014/03/07/perfect-ubuntu-or-other-linux-on-the-asus-transformer-book-t100/ But I don't have that machine, I have an Acer Aspire ES1-111 laptop
[23:54] <Nikesh> Jordan_U: It says to try to preserve the EFI partition
[23:54] <Nikesh> Jordan_U: Because previously from the default install options when I would boot it would just say 'No bootable device'
[23:54] <Bashing-om> the_count: I think ' sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core ' is what got us where we are. Will not hurt to run it again and re-confirm .
[23:55] <Nikesh> Jordan_U: I am open to just doing Legacy mode, but my keyboard and mouse didn't work in that mode (in the installer)
[23:56] <the_count> Bashing-om: http://askubuntu.com/questions/607693/unmet-dependencies-for-synaptics-touchpad-driver
[23:56] <the_count> No, sorry Bashing-om
[23:57] <OerHeks> arvinchou_, check your connection pls
[23:57] <the_count> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12210706/
[23:58] <OerHeks> the_count, you never paste the command you used
[23:58] <OerHeks> why is that?
[23:59] <the_count> OerHeks: What? Not shure what you mean.
[23:59] <Jordan_U> Nikesh: OK, so you're never getting to a grub menu.
[23:59] <Jordan_U> Nikesh: Please pastebin the output of "sudo efibootmgr".