[12:18] <Dragon64> wow good morning
[12:22] <knome> hello.
[12:35] <loula> hi
[12:35] <loula> i need help
[12:36] <knome> ask away
[12:36] <loula> i've got cursor issues, in some cases, my cursor is replaced by some square in which shows old cursor trails
[12:36] <knome> which xubuntu bersion?
[12:36] <knome> *version
[12:37] <loula> as if i was drawing with my cursor as a brush on an invisible layer, and the cursor is a small window that shows that layer
[12:37] <loula> 15.04
[12:37] <knome> are you running xubuntu virtualized or on hardware?
[12:37] <loula> on hardware
[12:38] <knome> hmm. what's your hardware specs? amount of ram?
[12:38] <loula> 4 Go of ram
[12:38] <loula> and i'm gonna check specs
[12:38] <knome> do you use PPAs?
[12:38] <knome> anything custom installed?
[12:38] <knome> which graphics card and which driver?
[12:39] <loula> ppas yes, but not for system or wm things
[12:39] <loula> xfce theme was shipped with the os
[12:40] <knome> PPas can sometimes have unexpected effects, better double-check which packages they provide
[12:41] <loula> well, the issue was there at firefox first opening, so i don't think it is ppa's fault
[12:41] <loula> i didn't install anything
[12:42] <knome> firefox can take a lot of resources, so it might be related to that
[12:42] <knome> though with 4GB ram, that's unlikely to affect THAT much
[12:42] <loula> i don't think ressource the issue too
[12:42] <loula> it's in very selective cases
[12:43] <loula> for exemple i have a picture opened in firefox, cursor's ok
[12:43] <loula> if it is opened in firefox via tumblr (when you have the "like, follow, etc" buttons at the top), cursor is messed up
[12:44] <knome> so.. does this only happen in firefox?
[12:45] <loula> same with krita, the classic arrow cursor is ok, but when i use a crosshair, a circle or even a single dot as a cursor, the square appears, showing ond cursor trails (are those trails even supposed to be stored somewhere?)
[12:45] <knome> not really, it's likely just a rendering bug
[12:45] <knome> which GPU and driver are you using?
[12:46] <loula> hmm it seems related to the dualscreen configuration
[12:46] <loula> weird
[12:47] <loula> it's a ATI radeon HD 6950 (x2)
[12:47] <loula> using the proprietary driver
[12:47] <loula> fglrx
[12:48] <loula> the bug goes away when i use only one screen
[12:49] <knome> does the bug appear with open source drivers?
[13:02] <loula> let's try
[13:03] <loula> does it need a reboot?
[13:04] <knome> won't hurt
[13:04] <loula> so brb
[13:08] <loula> so i changed the proprietary driver for the free one
[13:08] <loula> i rebooted, and the issue is still there
[13:10] <knome> ok, good to have ruled that out
[13:10] <loula> now in the additional drivers window, selected entry is a fourth one that wasn't there before i rebooted, that says something like "continue using a manually installed driver" and other choices are greyed out.
[13:10] <loula> including the free driver
[13:12] <knome> hmm, weird.
[13:12] <knome> anyway, i got to go
[13:12] <knome> hopefully others are able to help
[13:12] <knome> i will be back at some point too
[13:12] <knome> good luck!
[13:12] <loula> ok, thanks
[16:47] <xubuntu81w> Questions/observations about 15.10b1 her or in -devel?
[16:48] <holstein> i would try devel.. there is also the #ubuntu+1 channel, though, i understant *devel to be the preferre place for xubuntu..
[16:49] <xubuntu81w> thanks
[17:28] <Guest51176>  calibre is not working with mint xfce, files are not opening from inside calibre
[17:28] <cfhowlett> !mint | Guest51176
[17:29] <Guest51176> ubottu: the issue is with xfce not with mint
[17:29] <cfhowlett> Guest51176, you're using mint.  mint is not ubuntu and is not supported here.
[17:32] <Guest51176> cfhowlett: first i installed xubuntu but it was not working. after that i tried mint xfce but at both distro based on xfce, calibre fails to open files. pls help me as i m dependent on calibre too much..it is bug with xfce which is fixed in arc and fedora but i cant find solution for ubuntu based distros
[17:32] <cfhowlett> Guest51176, mint IS NOT ubuntu.  we don't support it.
[17:33] <cfhowlett> !flavors | Guest51176
[17:34] <Guest51176> ubottu: i know that. i m ubuntu user only, but after calibre not worked in xubuntu, i tried mint xfce to confirm the issue.
[17:36] <cfhowlett> Guest51176, open a terminal and do this.  paste the url in this channel >>>                 lsb_release -a | nc termibin.com 9999
[17:36] <cfhowlett> termbin.com 9999
[17:37] <Guest51176> cfhowlett: no lsb module available
[17:38] <cfhowlett> Guest51176, then you definitely are not using *buntu.  sorry, you are in the wrong channel.
[17:38] <brainwash> Guest51176: so, it does not work. did you file a bug report? ideally, you should test the latest stable xubuntu release or even the current development release
[17:39] <Guest51176> cfhowlett: sorry if u misunderstood, i m telling that i m checking this issue in mint as it was not working in xubuntu
[17:39] <Guest51176> http://dpaste.com/3YDFXQA
[17:39] <cfhowlett> Guest51176, reinstall xubuntu and we can try.
[17:40] <Guest51176> cfhowlett: pls have a look in bug if possible. some patch is relased in arc and all but i m not able to find how to solve in ubuntu
[17:40] <brainwash> !bugs
[17:40] <brainwash> ^
[17:41] <brainwash> nothing we can do about this. the package maintainer needs to be informed
[17:44] <Guest51176> brainwash: thanks.. i think i have to leave calibre for ubuntu
[17:46] <brainwash> Guest51176: you could use an exo package which more up-to-date
[17:46] <Guest51176> brainwash: how to install exo packages
[17:47] <brainwash> from this PPA probably https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/+archive/ubuntu/xfce-4.12
[17:48] <brainwash> mmh nope
[17:48] <brainwash> the package is too old
[17:49] <Guest51176> brainwash: i added this one :)
[17:49] <Guest51176> brainwash: can suggest what else i can done
[17:52] <brainwash> other than filing a bug report, no
[17:53] <Guest51176> brainwash: i fixed it. thanks a lot
[17:54] <cfhowlett> ??? share, please ?
[17:54] <cfhowlett> HOW
[17:55] <Guest51176> cfhowlett: sudo gedit /usr/bin/xdg-open
[17:55] <Guest51176> changed DE from xfce to gnome
[17:56] <cfhowlett> Guest51176, and now calibre works?
[17:56] <Guest51176> cfhowlett: yes now its working
[17:56] <cfhowlett> Guest51176, that there is some good detective work, Lou!
[17:57] <Guest51176> cfhowlett: :) thanks
[17:57] <cfhowlett> I never would have thought of that.  iirc, calibre is a gnome app, so OF COURSE.
[17:58] <Guest51176> cfhowlett: just one help, it will not effect other programs?
[18:00] <cfhowlett> Guest51176, well, I've got allhealthy mix of gnome and xfce apps on my xubuntu, and never had a problem launching so I assume all dependencies are automagically installed.  but apps will likely run best in their native DE.
[18:01] <cfhowlett> checking the calibre website.  gnome is recommended ...
[18:39] <knome> cuzor, for your issue, the messages aren't anything to be worried of; i see the same messages on my desktop machine, and it'll proceed after some time
[18:39] <cuzor> ah
[18:40] <cuzor> so after a couple of minutes, loading should continue?
[18:40] <drc> Same here...just takes a bit of time.  Scared me the first time I saw them though.
[18:40] <knome> cuzor, well, after some time
[18:40] <knome> cuzor, considering you don't have other problems booting
[18:40] <knome> but at least these aren't anything related to those
[18:41] <cuzor> gonna try again and have a bit more patience
[18:41] <azzenovic> hey guys is it true that parts of libreoffice suite  will be in the next xubuntu release?
[18:43] <knome> azzenovic, yes.
[18:44] <azzenovic> but as far as i am concerned Libreoffice isn't lightweight doesn't that oppose the xubuntu philosophy ?
[18:45] <genii> I recall much debate over it at the time
[18:46] <knome> azzenovic, you can read the whole xubuntu strategy document at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/StrategyDocument, performance is just one of four areas of focus
[18:46] <knome> (and for that matter, for example firefox isn't the lightest browser either)
[18:47] <azzenovic> I've already read the strategy document that's why I was wondering + isn't midory a better choice as a web browser ?
[18:48] <knome> azzenovic, "better choice" depends on the requirements set
[18:49] <azzenovic> so?
[18:50] <knome> well if you prefer midori over firefox, you can always remove the latter...
[18:51] <knome> and if you want an OS that aims to be as lightweight as possible, then you should look into other options; xubuntu isn't all about lightness, it's also about usability, and integration
[18:58] <azzenovic> I have no intention to leave xubuntu for another distro especially for my lapop
[18:58] <azzenovic> laptop
[18:59] <knome> ...then i guess we've done a good job even if we are bad boys and girls introducing heavy apps.
[18:59] <knome> go us
[19:37] <cuzor> found the problem why xubuntu (or any other linux, except crunchbang a long time ago) would load. When I disconnect my bluray drive, xubuntu loads immediatly
[19:39] <cuzor> http://www.linux-hardware-guide.com/2014-02-24-liteon-ihbs112-115-internal-blu-ray-12x-writer-sata
[20:32] <ROPA> hi all, I just bought a USB silicone flexible keyboard for my ubuntu laptop, but it does not work. Appears dead. Does it need a driver?? The stock keyboard works fine, am using it to send this message. Any suggestions??
[20:34] <ROPA> kb appears to be recognized, see  http://paste.ubuntu.com/12208522/
[21:07] <xubuntu94i> Hi
[22:54] <mariano> I have windows server essentials with shared folders. I'm want to connect to those shares from xubuntu. I tried to open windows network from thunar but I    get the error message "failed to open windows network" and "failed to retrieve shares list from server: No such file or directory".
[23:35] <Dragon64> Good Afternoon