[00:03] <Didge-> I ain't mad about crowdfunding and this is my personal second attempt.. Would anyone like to piss rip what I have written.. https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/wisedevice/x/11945088#/story
[00:05] <Didge-> I'm trying not to bore the normal folk among us and I'm not writing to complicated for anyone to understand, I have in a past failed very badly due to listing all these fancy computer terms and frankly, blow the hell out of normal people.. I even stop mid conversation and mention... I know mate, sounds boring right.. Kinda as a joke to see if their still listening to my jargon, so I have tried to cut the complete LOT out this time..
[00:06] <Didge-> I'm not even kind of into all this social funding thing either to be honest..
[00:07] <Didge-> If anyone thinks they can do a uch better job then me on this front, I'm more then happy to fill someone in with all the clobber and jargon and I would even pay someone to trial crowd funding out for us.
[00:18] <ali1234> Didge-: get a copyeditor to fix the grammar
[00:19] <ali1234> you have a run on sentence that goes on for 9 lines...
[00:23] <Didge-> My grammar sucks mate, I honestly know that for sure.. I think it's moving around the world working throughout my life to be honest, and I'm happier with computer languages lol..Only have to moan at the compiler then, sorry about that mate :)
[00:23] <Didge-> To be honest though, I actually talk in large paragraphs an all mate ;) I will try to find one at people per hour.com or something if you like :)
[00:24] <Didge-> is it really that bad though, honestly like.. you can be brutal ;)
[00:25] <Didge-> Thanks btw, at least you took the time to pass though, means allot to me to be honest :D
[00:25] <ali1234> well, the thing is...
[00:25] <Didge-> Go on then.. ;)
[00:25] <ali1234> you're designing a product that has three screens and folds open
[00:25] <ali1234> that's going to take to very precise engineering
[00:26] <ali1234> your text doesn't exactly come across as being carefully designed...
[00:26] <Didge-> indeed, thats my background, I have used CNC machines Gcode for a good five to seven years of my working life in both the UK and europe along with other computer skills, it is a very complicated design as you list.
[00:27] <Didge-> That is also true, I am having a very hard time explaining the process to.. Can I say, normal non tech folks too..
[00:27] <ali1234> i think the content is fine
[00:27] <ali1234> but, put some full stops in there, please
[00:28] <mdeslaur> aquarius: hrm, thanks
[00:28] <Didge-> I did come up with the idea of asking folks to get an A4 piece of paper folded like I had it and then try to ask folks to do as they normally would while using a device or me prompting them to try something out that they would normally do using a device like this or a tablet.
[00:29] <ali1234> that doesn't do much for me
[00:29] <ali1234> so now i'm holding a piece of folded paper, now what?
[00:29] <ali1234> i can't relate to paper
[00:29] <Didge-> Richard Branson, told my cousin it was the essence of selling an idea...
[00:29] <ali1234> the only time i see a piece of paper folded like that is when i get bills
[00:30] <Didge-> you can relate to paper if you use your imagination,
[00:30] <Didge-> HAHAH Bills mate, fucking HAHA
[00:30] <Didge-> I like you, lmfao..
[00:30] <ali1234> i'm not even that young
[00:30] <ali1234> i expect kids today will be like "what's A4 paper?"
[00:31] <ali1234> also americans won't know what A4 is either
[00:31] <Didge-> me neither lol I'll be touching 40 pretty soon I think..
[00:33] <Didge-> Honestly though, fold it like so.. think of making a call as you normally do, but as most do these days we need more information, GPS coords, IMDB quotes and once your using a single screen you have to background a call, get the info and backtrack back to the call, why not open the device.. make a call while reading an article on the other screen, organiser.. Say you need your dare I say excel data and it's rubbish to view on a small single screen.
[00:33] <Didge-> .
[00:34] <ali1234> well one reason not to do that is because you're holding it up to your ear
[00:34] <ali1234> gotta background the call anyway
[00:35] <Didge-> So you never use speaker phone? or wear earbuds?
[00:35] <ali1234> i don't use headsets because they are a faff
[00:35] <ali1234> got to charge them, or fight with cables
[00:35] <ali1234> i'd rather just have a phone and a tablet
[00:35] <Didge-> the call is switch to the middle screen once you open fold the device and the other screen on the far right becomes another desktop of sorts :)
[00:36] <Didge-> Then your sold and happy with the current platforms, would you ever try anything else though?
[00:36] <ali1234> sure, i'd try anything
[00:36] <ali1234> i wouldn't pay money to do so though
[00:37] <ali1234> i'm not very excited about convergence tbh
[00:37] <Didge-> I'd be happy to lend you a device for an extended amount of time too in a couple of months.. even alsmot free just for you to give something like this a go mate :)
[00:38] <Didge-> Nor me, with regard to convergence but you will have to admit, it's coming regardless if anyone cares.. it's just another market really and something for businesses to earn money.
[00:38] <ali1234> looks that way
[00:38] <ali1234> for me, i don't need to have an all in one device, because i just use google for everything
[00:39] <ali1234> it's exactly as if i had an all in one device
[00:40] <ali1234> in a way, mozilla has the right idea
[00:40] <ali1234> convergence through the browser
[00:40] <ali1234> that's all anyone really needs
[00:40] <ali1234> converged apps necessarily end up like responsive webpages anyway
[00:40] <Didge-> Just another new market sadly, all the SoC manufacturers are starting to add extra shaders to their SoC's so something is coming in the future, even I have a dual screen LG phone back from the early 90s, the work on the Nokia Communicator 9000? was something brillient which pushed smart phones into the public's view, even that did not sell well but look at what we do today..
[00:40] <Didge-> That's VERY true what you have just said..
[00:41] <Didge-> We're developing desktop GUI go anywhere through the browser at the moment and you can see this on our web page currently.. WiseGUI it's called :)
[00:42] <Didge-> You can pick a OS on the fly through a browser over the internet using some serious security tunnelling too..
[00:42] <ali1234> i can just ssh into my computer :)
[00:42] <Didge-> And soon we will have 1 million bit cryptography built into our WiseMail product :)
[00:42] <ali1234> uh... what?
[00:43] <Didge-> Yes, YOU can because you and I know what we are doing.. you ask that of a normal person in the home or a normal business men with a lost machine or phone
[00:43] <Didge-> Uh what, what?
[00:43] <Didge-> 1 million bit crypt?
[00:43] <ali1234> "1 million bit encryption"
[00:43] <Didge-> www.cubeitz.com
[00:43] <Didge-> it's my cousins firm :)
[00:44] <Didge-> he is one of the best computer experts this country has to offer, his last business was brought by IBM and the one before that Microsoft and the users of Microsoft use that software allot and they dont even know it.
[00:44] <ali1234> the name sounds familiar
[00:44] <ali1234> which can only be a bad thing
[00:44] <Didge-> David Duke mate ;)
[00:45] <Didge-> Scares the fuck our of Mi6 to be honest too...and GCHQ, the MET and the rest... maybe why they employ him all the time, he left GCHQ because the government could not afford him.. Then the Queen employed him to help track paedophiles too ;)
[00:46] <Didge-> Cubeitz was named after the Cubit to be honest too, Quantum style eh ;D But I can't say much about developments within his business regards to matters such as that.
[00:47] <ali1234> i am sceptical. 1 million bits is completely unnecessary and probably impractical
[00:47] <ali1234> and i won't trust an encryption scheme that hasn't been peer reviewed
[00:47] <ali1234> just look at the telegram mess
[00:47] <Didge-> Ask them yourself mate.. Try the software, hack away at it.. you break it... theirs a couple of million quid in it for you it's an open competition around the world too :)
[00:48] <ali1234> the telegram contest? it's rigged...
[00:48] <Didge-> Well the banks are looking to roll it out soon, so to the government here in the UK and it's going on sale in Maplin electronics too for the general public..
[00:48] <Didge-> export licensed too ;)
[00:49] <Didge-> Telegram Contest?
[00:49] <ali1234> yeah they posted a bounty if someone could crack a message
[00:50] <Didge-> I will say one thing for him though, he loves MS and Apple sadly, not an OSS fan at all really.. 80 patents too.. I only have a mere handful sadly :(
[00:50] <Didge-> Awesome, I would have loved that...
[00:50] <ali1234> any published cryptography work?
[00:50] <Didge-> Mine? no, I hardly publish work myself these days, never gets me anywhere to be honest.
[00:55] <Didge-> Lovely to meet you Ali ;) I'm starting to enjoy the Ubuntu community, I know I don't stick to the basic topics all the time.. But always show willing to new folks I say and that gets you further in life then anything.
[00:56] <Didge-> Slackware user for many many years myself..
[01:02] <Didge-> I seen a few years ago, someone had digitally created a device like mine.. Thankfully if I get sued by him I have postal proven records I beat them to it ;) but I'm not looking for trouble, after all the Chinese took the land rover and copied it... no-one ever got sued. But I'm waiting really for the hassle ;)
[01:03] <Didge-> Would not be the first time I have been in court and then it's proven I was there first.. Actually that's happened three times so I've never lost a copyright issue either lol
[01:03] <ali1234> there was a device a few years ago with two screens that connect together
[01:04] <ali1234> it was like a laptop cut in half
[01:04] <Didge-> yeah, theirs loads of them now if you really look hard enough :)
[01:04] <ali1234> i don't think it ever got made
[01:04] <Didge-> have you never seen the Asus, dual screen laptop? I'm sure it was Asus or someone and they was selling them quite well..
[01:05] <ali1234> yeah i've seen that
[01:05] <Didge-> I think they just released it to see if the general public could handle the idea of using more then one screen
[01:05] <ali1234> this wasn't like that though
[01:05] <ali1234> it was literally like a laptop cut in half, down the middle
[01:05] <ali1234> right through the keyboard
[01:05] <Didge-> Proper hack wa it with a chain saw eh :)
[01:05] <Didge-> wHAHA love it!
[01:05] <Didge-> couple of magnets and some gaffer tape, sorted!
[01:06] <Didge-> Rips the piss out of my A4 bit of paper, right! lmfao
[01:07] <ali1234> https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/the-if-convertible-by-idealfuture-3-devices-2-screens-1-data-plan#/story
[01:10] <ali1234> looks like they never shipped anything
[01:11] <Didge-> Your joking right... Are you telling me they've just fucked off with the cash..
[01:11] <Didge-> Even I would have stuck some cash in to a development like that! Looks like a nice idea too :)
[01:11] <ali1234> actually, they did it twice
[01:12] <Didge-> Fucking twice! Jesus... Honestly that's digital theft on a crowd based level..
[01:12] <ali1234> btw, we like to keep ubuntu channels family friendly...
[01:14] <Didge-> Have I insulted you?
[01:14] <ali1234> no, but please stop swearing :)
[01:15] <Didge-> Oh sorry, I'm not a PC type person, ex armed forces too ;)
[01:16] <Didge-> I come from a common hard working background and us English are not too keen on all this PC stuff to be honest. No worries, I'm just a franker person.
[01:16] <ali1234> i'm english too. it doesn't bother me, but ubuntu is global and diverse and all that
[01:17] <Didge-> Where are you based?
[01:17] <Didge-> Anywhere near Northampton?
[01:17] <ali1234> nottingham
[01:17] <Didge-> Shottingham, awesome!
[01:17] <Didge-> Love it! you guys have a serious issues with students at the weekends eh :/
[01:18] <Didge-> Next your gonna tell me your the party parade around town eh ;)
[01:18] <ali1234> i don't go into town at night... it's awful
[01:19] <Didge-> Tell me about it, lol it's enough passing through sometimes during the weekend nights..
[01:20] <Didge-> One of my 31337 mates, Ethix still lives there, just hides indoors and I've not seen him for the last five or so years unless online..
[01:20] <Didge-> He hates the place, but I don't know why he does not move..
[01:21] <ali1234> well it's fairly well connected
[01:22] <ali1234> can easily get to london or manchester
[01:22] <ali1234> without having to deal with living in either
[01:23] <Didge-> Not bad then if that's what you are after, I kinda have something of the same going on, Stansted and Luton airports are not too far a drive.. Allot of my business is in developing counties where the markets are becoming ripe..
[01:24] <dobey> Didge-: dude, go to sleep.
[01:24] <Didge-> Austriala too, some family member businesses are moving over there because off lax computer security measures and we have plenty to offer them with regards to cyber warfare and protection methods..
[01:24] <Didge-> Oi it's happy hour dobey ;) Not quite 4:20 yet though.. I'm only kidding :D
[01:25] <dobey> yeah, it's only 2:30 for you
[01:27] <Didge-> The witching hour soon, better get my mom's broom and cape ready though..
[01:33] <Didge-> You guys ever seen something like this.. I've got folks calling at my door now asking about this.. but it's not currently rolled out correctly and I'm still working on a few things but the ladies that have tried this loved it! Best idea ever..
[01:34] <Didge-> http://www.wisecorp.co.uk/babywise
[01:34] <ali1234> i think i've seen something like that before... i see a lot of things
[01:35] <Didge-> Yeah I seen it in Japan, the fellas used a flipping CT and MRI scanner to get the detail back about five years ago I reckon..
[01:35] <ali1234> why limit it to babies though?
[01:35] <dobey> oh yeah, 3d foetus, sure
[01:35] <Didge-> Brought myself a HD Ultrasound scanner and done it myself.
[01:35] <ali1234> can i have a 3d print of my pancreas?
[01:35] <dobey> ali1234: yeah, feel your ulcers from the outside!
[01:35] <Didge-> You kind of could, but thats not something I have tried yet..
[01:36] <ali1234> lots of hits on google for this idea, here's one: http://www.3d-babies.com/
[01:36] <Didge-> I tried to scan my brain, but the calcium deposits in my skull seem to not penetrate so well, kids under 6 seem okay though..
[01:37] <Didge-> We are the first in the UK to provide a full foetus though, BabyBoo only does a segment and they dont have any CAD or 3D engineers..
[01:40] <Didge-> I went to the UK medial commission to make sure and them aware I was going to roll out something like this and all they said was just scan too early and not for extended amounts of time, no laws on this just guidance really.. and I try to do smaller segment scans over a week or two period to minimise the ultrasound effects when the medical commission here starts to put values on the usage of this equipment.
[01:41] <Didge-> Got three kids myself and I hated the grainy 2D and boring 4D scans, so I brought the HD version of the Ultrasound equipment for about £28k a little while ago... awesome kit! Told the misses I'm going into the adult toy industry, hit the roof fellas..
[01:41] <dobey> Didge-: it's cool and all, but this isn't really the place to be advertising things.
[01:42] <Didge-> Adverts, na.. I'm just trying to share something with you guys to build up maybe nice relations with you all... Nothing more, Their is not much to my personal life really and I'm seriously quite boring apart from work I do..
[01:43] <Didge-> I could not care if anyone used or even looked to be honest, I go about my life regardless of what others think.. Gets you no where in life really.
[01:43] <Didge-> I'm sure you all know stuff about one another in this chatroom, otherwise you would not all hang out I guess or go AFK.
[01:44] <dobey> nope
[01:44] <Didge-> No! lol
[01:46] <dobey> i would say that i probably don't know a lot of the people in ehre. maybe half. i'm not about to go through all the names though and count them, at this hour, especially with duplicates, both of people in here, and beers in me
[01:47] <Didge-> Na that's no worries, you wont be hearing much from me then in the future, solve stuff myself rather then asking for help, want something done, do it yourself :)
[03:13] <pitti> nuclearbob: can we please land the autopilot-gtk rebuild soon? this currently breaks looots of tests, as every autopilot-gtk test fails due to the abi mismatch
[03:14] <pitti> (not sure who's landing that, but I saw you respond)
[07:23] <Hawk_> the timezone for singapore is wrong in vivid
[07:23] <Hawk_> report bug?
[07:23] <Hawk_> its GMT+8 not 7.5
[07:27] <RAOF> Hawk_: Yup, bug please. tzinfo is going to be the relevant package.
[07:28] <Hawk_> under coreapp?
[07:28] <RAOF> Aaah, probably.
[07:36] <Hawk_> non of the core apps project is related to timezone
[07:36] <Hawk_> system-settings is not part of it
[07:39] <ogra_> Hawk_, we just use the tzdata distro package for all TZ data on the phone, just file it against that
[07:39] <Hawk_> strangely desktop is correct?
[07:39] <ogra_> oh, really ?
[07:40] <sil2100> We need to upgrade tzdata again it seems
[07:40] <Hawk_> yes
[07:40] <Hawk_> desktop version has been correct all along
[07:40] <sil2100> Is thata a vivid desktop?
[07:40] <Hawk_> the normal ubuntu desktop
[07:40] <ogra_> sil2100, well, if desktop is correct and the overlay PPA doesnt have tzdata thats theoretically impossible :)
[07:41] <Hawk_> !!!
[07:41] <sil2100> Yeah, thats why I ask if its vivid, since maybe it wasnt backported to vivid-security
[07:41] <Hawk_> let me show you the screen shot
[07:41] <sil2100> It happens sometimes
[07:42] <ogra_> i see the update went to vivid-updates along with vivid-security
[07:42] <Hawk_> i am using the current daily vivid for touch
[07:43] <sil2100> Yeah, see it there
[07:43] <ogra_> and i definitelky see that version on my rc-proposed phone
[07:44] <ogra_> Hawk_, and your desktop install is vivid too ? and up to date with all updates ?
[07:44] <sil2100> And no tzdata in overlay, strange
[07:44] <ogra_> yeah
[07:46] <Hawk_> http://postimg.org/image/q6g8xs0v3/
[07:46] <ogra_> Hawk_, and your desktop install is vivid too ? and up to date with all updates ?
[07:46] <Hawk_> no, i am using 14.04 at the moment
[07:46] <ogra_> aha
[07:46] <ogra_> so yes, files it against tzdata then :)
[07:46] <Hawk_> u mean my development machine?
[07:47] <Hawk_> how is it that desktop is fine? touch is different?
[07:47] <Hawk_> orgra, since you are here. just a quick question on wifi
[07:47] <ogra_> how do you know desktop is fine ? you do not use the same release as on the phone ;)
[07:48] <ogra_> i assume vivid desktop is broken too
[07:48] <Hawk_> i use vivid before i went to back to lucid
[07:48] <Hawk_> I have been using ubuntu at home for the longest time
[07:49] <Hawk_> singapore may be small but there are many ubuntu users
[07:49] <Hawk_> hardly will go by with no one noticing
[07:49] <ogra_> well, that data is identical on vivid desktop and phone ... there is no technical way they would be different
[07:50] <Hawk_> check out the image posted above
[07:50] <ogra_> tzdata was updated on the 12th when north corea switched to .5
[07:50] <ogra_> so if you didnt run a vivid desktop since the 12th, the infoi that desktop is fine doesnt say anything
[07:50] <Hawk_> singapore timezone is always right on my desktop
[07:50] <ogra_> tzdata is thus the right package
[07:51] <Hawk_> 12th of this month?
[07:51] <ogra_> just file it against that
[07:51] <ogra_> yes
[07:51] <ogra_> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tzdata/2015f-0ubuntu0.15.04
[07:52] <ogra_> and this package is used on the phone and desktop in vivid ... and it is the only source for any timezone info that we have
[07:52] <Hawk_> well...i have certainly stop using vivid since a while back
[07:53] <ogra_> so the switch for north corea most likely broke singapore
[07:53] <Hawk_> north korea changed to 7.5?
[07:53] <ogra_> they changed by half an houor from their former zone
[07:53] <ogra_> not sure which direction :)
[07:54] <ogra_> you can call it the kim jong un bug ;)
[07:54] <Hawk_> korea should be gmt 7
[07:54] <ogra_> not since the 12th
[07:54] <Hawk_> well...there are people out there who think singapore is like the north. :)
[07:55] <Hawk_> I will log a bug nevertheless
[07:55] <ogra_> yeah, but it is more likely a bug in some script generating the data
[07:58] <Hawk_> bug logged
[07:58] <Hawk_> is wifi in touch using libhybris or directly through networkmanager?
[08:00] <Hawk_> ogra ?
[08:01] <ogra_> it is initialized via the android container but used directly via network manager i think
[08:01] <ogra_> ask cyphermox or awe for details (both on american timezones)
[08:02] <Hawk_> dont see an option to turn on/off the wifi though
[08:02] <Hawk_> is that the norm?
[08:03] <ogra_> no, it should be there ... in the  panel indicator and in system-settings
[08:03] <Hawk_> ok. then its probably due to apparmor
[08:03] <Hawk_> have to port the kernel changes yet
[08:03] <ogra_> neither of these apps uses apparmor
[08:03] <ogra_> they run completely unconfined
[08:04] <Hawk_> i have only the wifi icon and a blank screen on the wifi
[08:04] <Hawk_> something is still wrong. will figure it out
[08:05] <ogra_> and your driver is loaded and set up ok ? you can connect from cmdline and such ?
[08:05] <Hawk_> yeah. manage to get adb working
[08:05] <Hawk_> but the icon are not showing
[08:05] <ogra_> i mean wifi
[08:05] <Hawk_> i have thought it was apparmor related
[08:05] <ogra_> use ifconfig, iwconfig and nmcli
[08:06] <Hawk_> wifi is not right yet. i will figure it out
[08:06] <ogra_> see if the wifi is working at all ...
[08:06] <ogra_> make it work on the commandline first
[08:06] <Hawk_> ok
[08:08] <Hawk_> http://postimg.org/image/g0twu5pyf
[08:08] <Hawk_> icons does not show up. any idea which component to look at?
[08:09] <ogra_> not sure, could be the click scope, could be the thumbnailer
[08:09] <ogra_> or even Mir ...
[08:09] <Hawk_> ok
[08:09] <Hawk_> thanks. will investigate further
[08:09] <ogra_> do they also not show after you refresh the scope  ?
[08:10] <Hawk_> no. even the the left slide gesture doesnt show
[08:10] <nhaines> I am sad because I don't have the Day scope on my phone or my tablet.
[08:10] <Hawk_> on left slide, only ubuntu icon is shown
[08:11] <Hawk_> well...at least i have adbd working and is bootable.
[08:11] <Hawk_> so it will be a lot easier to work on now than  before
[08:12] <Hawk_> will slowly figure it out somehow
[08:12] <ogra_> yeah, good luck
[08:12] <Hawk_> thanks for all your help
[08:15] <Hawk_> in the past, i drag having to boot up as it almost always time to remove the battery. :)
[08:15] <davmor2> Hawk_: do you have wifi or 3g if not that might be the cause daft as it sounds
[08:16] <Hawk_> wifi?
[08:16] <Hawk_> no, i have no put sim into the phone y et
[08:16] <Hawk_> so no 3g
[08:16] <Hawk_> davmor2, the phone do have wifi. if its what you mean
[08:17] <Hawk_> is the network related to the icons?
[08:19] <davmor2> Hawk_: sometimes
[08:19] <Hawk_> i see. but does not make sure for icons to be link to that.
[08:19] <Hawk_> definitely no network access at the moment
[08:20] <Hawk_> still trying to make wifi work
[08:21] <zzarr> hello! I installed the latest OTA yesterday and I have good news :) in my experience the battery life have increased
[08:22] <Hawk_> meizu?
[08:22] <Hawk_> congrats!
[08:27] <zzarr> Meizu yes :D
[08:49] <Hawk_> ogra, its weird
[08:49] <Hawk_> after i fixed the rtc issue in the kernel
[08:49] <Hawk_> the timezone is now correct. :(
[08:54] <zzarr> Hawk_, why are you complaining about the timezone being correct? (isn't that good?)
[08:55] <Hawk_> it was wrong when I logged the bug
[08:55] <Hawk_> before fixing the kernel rtc, its was shown as 7.5
[08:55] <Hawk_> kindof posting here to inform orga of the outcome
[08:56] <Hawk_> ogra
[08:57] <Hawk_> was puzzled over it just now
[09:03] <popey> JMulholland: got a sec for a brief calendar chat?
[09:04] <zzarr> okey
[09:04] <JMulholland> Certainly popey
[09:04] <JMulholland> You’re in luck, my 10 meeting has been pushed back to 10.30 :)
[09:23] <popey> JMulholland: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ux/+bug/1489800
[09:25] <popey> JMulholland: looks like you did comment sanely on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-calendar-app/+bug/1473682
[09:25] <popey> so yay
[09:25] <JMulholland> popey well that’s a relief :0
[09:25] <JMulholland> :)
[09:26] <JMulholland> I’ve asssigned 1489800 to myself too
[09:29] <pitti> boiko: ah, you disappeared from #u-release already
[09:29] <pitti> boiko: I retried the telepathy-ofono boottest, worked now; it migrated 20 mins ago
[09:31] <boiko> pitti: thanks! networkmanager refused to connect to the wifi network, so I had to reboot and forgot to join again :)
[09:31] <pitti> boiko: no worries; but I suppose it's all good now?
[09:32] <boiko> pitti: yep, all good, already rebuilding dependent silos, thanks for the help!
[09:33] <seb128> kenvandine, see, even boiko is trolling n-m, it's not only pmcgowan ;-)
[09:35] <boiko> seb128: yeah, I don't know what happened, indicator went down, and so did the network itself, but after a reboot all was fine
[09:42] <kenvandine> seb128 :)
[13:42] <jibel> pitti, autopkgtest of autopilot-gtk passed
[13:43] <pitti> jibel: \o/
[13:43] <pitti> dobey: ^ FYI
[13:43] <pitti> http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/a/autopilot-gtk/
[13:43] <pitti> so I'll retry the related ones
[13:44] <pitti> shotwell and ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts
[13:46] <dobey> ok
[13:46] <dobey> hopefully it fixes online-accounts then
[16:51] <vishnudev_> hi
[16:52] <vishnudev_> I want to port ubuntu touch for nexus 6
[16:52] <vishnudev_> any interesting leads or help anyone can give?
[16:56] <vishnudev_> anyone there?
[17:11] <ftoth> On my Meizu I note that when I arrive home my wifi does not reconnect to my access point. It seems that the phone rescans only the 2.4GHz network (as I see those in the list), however the 5GHz shows still the access points I had at the office. As a result the phone thinks it is still connected to the office access point.
[17:11] <ftoth> Where do I report this bug?
[17:15] <vishnudev_> its a dead channel.
[17:15] <vishnudev_> we all are dead people
[17:17] <ftoth> Does that I'm dead too?
[17:24] <coin> Hi there. I would like to connect an external auto powered USB hard drive  to my Ubuntu touch Nexus 4. I saw on internet that this is possible with android, with a patched kernel that enables OTG. Is OTG enabled by the ubuntu touch kernel ? How does it work ?
[17:38] <shd> anybody knows what is /proc/ged device or where to find anything about that?
[18:43] <Dragnell_> coin:  i just try, and dosen't seems to work, maybe in a nexus 7 or 10
[18:46] <coin> Dragnell_: thanks! Does not work for me too :(
[18:47] <coin> it seems that the kernel needs a path, but how to ?
[18:47] <coin> this is not strictly a hardware issue, since it works with (patched) android
[22:55] <Drecksack> hi everybody
[22:56] <Drecksack> I have a question
[22:57] <Drecksack> i will ubuntu touch on my Doogee DG800, how can i do this??
[22:57] <Drecksack> is it compatible with the DG800???
[22:57] <Drecksack> con you help me???
[23:01] <Drecksack> hello ????????
[23:48] <Dragnell> Drecksack: you may want to look in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices