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mapppswahh too hot02:29
daftykins:D02:30
daftykinsagain?02:30
mapppsya daftykins02:44
mapppsalways is02:44
mapppswell for 2 days it was nice at night02:44
mapppsnow stickyhot again02:44
mapppswahhhhhhhhhhh02:44
daftykinscold here, i'm back to jeans and jacket02:44
mapppshow cold?02:45
daftykinsdunno, but a badly insulated home is sensitive to the slightest changes02:45
mapppsheh02:46
zmoylan-pi[Malta, Malta] Condition: Fair | Temp: 25C/77F/298K/536R | Humidity: 83% | Wind Speed 3mph/5kmph02:55
zmoylan-pi[Dublin, DUB, Ireland] Condition: Partly Cloudy | Temp: 11C/52F/284K/511R | Humidity: 94% | Wind Speed 15mph/24kmph02:55
daftykinswhat on earth is the 'R' scale o002:55
mapppsreverse02:56
mapppsheh dnno02:56
mapppsnever been malta..you?02:56
zmoylan-pihttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rankine_scale02:56
daftykinsty sir02:56
zmoylan-pi[Gibraltar, Gibraltar] Condition: Cloudy | Temp: 21C/70F/294K/529R | Humidity: 94% | Wind Speed 6mph/10kmph02:57
daftykinspff 21 is minor02:58
mapppsheh02:58
mapppshumidity;p02:58
daftykinsah yis02:59
zmoylan-piand it's middle of night02:59
zmoylan-piso the cool part of the day when the house is till holding the heat of the day02:59
mapppsim waiting for graceland then its bed time ;D02:59
mapppsyea02:59
mapppsduring day will be awfully hot and stiky02:59
mapppswakeup in a puddle03:00
daftykinschap i ordered TVs for was saying something about if items are over 6 months old, Spain won't charge import tax o003:00
mapppsdidnt know spain charge import ayway as its eu?03:00
mapppsthought eu to eu no import03:00
mapppsbut gib has import duty on EVERYTHING03:01
mapppsif i buy a tv in spain i can claim tax back n ib then pay gib tax LOL03:01
daftykinsyeah i'm not in the EU03:01
mapppswheres the weather foreast come from daftykins03:01
daftykinsyou should be asking zmoylan-pi :>03:02
mapppsstrange how gib is and isnt they hve eu passports and such but yea imorton all03:02
mapppsgo to careefour buy tv pay tax in spain claimm back pay again03:02
mapppsodd.no?03:02
daftykinswhat're the rates in each?03:03
mapppsnot sure tb never done it and the gov website didnt tell or i couldnt see03:03
=== Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte
popeymorning08:06
davmor2Morning popey  morning all08:12
bashrcg'day08:19
m6lpimorning all08:46
=== leecowdrey is now known as creakybore
=== creakybore is now known as leecowdrey
davmor2diddledan: scarborough fair this morning09:00
bashrcare you going?09:02
davmor2bashrc: no just got the haunting melody of the song stuck in my head this morning :)09:03
bashrc:)09:03
nucc1heh. big company can't keep their big kahuna website up: http://www.virginmedia.com/09:07
bashrcthe bigger they are the dumber they are09:08
nucc1he he09:11
nucc1i looked at that statement and realised how innuendo-filled it is, just like virgin media themselves09:11
brobostigonmorning boys and girls.09:13
nucc1top of the morning to you, sire09:13
brobostigonmorning nucc109:15
bigcalmGood morning peeps :)09:31
brobostigonmorning bigcalm09:33
* bashrc waves09:35
* leecowdrey waves back 09:42
bigcalmWhy can't I do this? sudo echo "foo" > /etc/foo.conf10:06
bigcalmI'm in sudo but it returns permission denied10:06
* bigcalm resorts to piping echo to sudo tee10:08
davmor2bigcalm: try sudo bash echo "foo" > /etc/foo.conf10:12
bigcalmdavmor2: aha10:14
davmor2bigcalm: you get the same error if you do sudo cd /etc/foo/10:15
nucc1is /etc/foo.conf on a readonly filesystem?10:15
bigcalmnucc1: no, it was just an example. davmor2 has explained that sudo needs to run bash rather than echo. Echo is a command of bash rather than a program itself10:20
nucc1ok10:20
foobarrywhats the best way to backup a non rooted phone ahead of unlocking bootloader12:58
brobostigonwhich phone OS and arch are we talking about?13:01
foobarrymoto G android 5.0.213:01
foobarrywanna keep as much as possible by way of SMS and whatsapp etc13:02
brobostigondoes it have custom recovery?13:04
foobarrydoesn't have TWRP or CWM13:05
foobarryi believe that i will lose my data if i unlock bootloader13:06
brobostigonthen i am afraid, i dont think its possible.13:06
brobostigonthat correct.13:06
foobarryrooting and flashing takes far longer than i ever predict14:29
brobostigonyou could flash cm12.1, which comes rooted, so you dont need to root it. saves time.14:32
brobostigonactually to more precise, it is a simple switch in setting to root/unroot it.14:33
brobostigonsettings*14:33
foobarryCWM or TWRP aren't sticking14:36
foobarryi get the "no command" screen14:39
dangoo87Greetings good sirs.  I am having an issue where I'm unable to have any sound registered from my microphone (usb headset with two jacks for sound+mic).  I've plugged them in at the back, but no mic sound registered, and the mic volume in sound settings is greyed out at mute.15:15
brobostigonfoobarry: so your doing, fastboot flash recovery recovery.img - fastboot reboot recovery.img. ?15:22
foobarrybrobostigon: i'm working now15:29
foobarryliterally 15 times15:29
foobarryin a row, it didn't retain the recovery setting15:29
foobarrynow i have the age old issue where android isn't restoring my apps and settings after a reset15:29
brobostigonodd.15:29
foobarryso i lost everything15:29
brobostigonsome things, android stores in your google account, but it isnt much.15:30
brobostigoni would suggest you use something like titanium, which allows you to backup alot more.15:30
foobarryyeah15:31
foobarrythats a pain too15:31
brobostigonits not storing/backup much?15:31
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diddledanpayday. and it's all gone already17:12
diddledan:-p17:13
* zmoylan-pi tips diddledan half a dinari...17:13
diddledan\o/ I'm rich!"17:13
diddledanbtw, larry is on sale: http://www.gog.com/promo/weekend_promo_atari_codemasters_28081517:14
zmoylan-pii hope they kept the age check puzzles in lsl1.  you'd need to be 50 to know them now :-)17:15
diddledanhaha17:15
diddledanthose were funky - I guessed and still got-in17:15
zmoylan-pithey were very american iirc17:16
diddledanyeah17:16
=== davmor2 is now known as davmor2_HOLS
daftykinsage check puzzles you say o017:19
dangoo87hi there, I have an issue with sound, I have managed to get teamspeak to play through headphones, but that seems to be the only program that does.  I can play everything else through my monitor speakers, but when I try and set it up for my headphones, nothing but teamspeak plays through it.18:21
dangoo87Does anyone have any ideas?18:21
daftykinsyour probably want to ask in the main #ubuntu - since that's the support channel proper18:22
dangoo87hey dafty - it's supermanintights from the idiot who bought a skylake18:23
dangoo87ok, I'll ask there as well18:23
dangoo87how's it going, all good?18:23
daftykinsi think the key part is idiot to run ubuntu on it - not to buy new hardware :D18:23
daftykinsyeah nothing much going on here thanks, hrmm should probably go food shopping :(18:24
dangoo87Well, turns out linux is the only option.  Windows doesn't have hardware support with skylake to run usb devices18:24
daftykins'run USB devices' that's definitely wrong18:24
daftykinsdid you try and install 7 or something?18:24
dangoo87so he has no CD/DVD drive, and it crashes if we try to install windows via usb18:24
dangoo87yeah 718:24
daftykinsthere's a BIOS parameter you have to change to install 718:24
daftykinsread up on it on the anandtech.com review18:25
dangoo87granted, I wasn't around at the time, I trusted him to be able to install windows18:25
dangoo87meh, I've invested far too many hours of my life into this, we're sticking with linux for now.  We're doing really well, occasional quirks, but everything is running beastly18:25
daftykins^_^18:25
daftykinswell it's useful to know regardless18:25
dangoo87yeah, i think i had to do similar when i was messing around with win 7 and win 818:26
dangoo87so #ubuntu isn't really giving me much, do the ubuntu forums tend to be good for getting info, I've never really used them apart from on searches, and most tend to be quite old18:28
dangoo87(the threads)18:28
daftykinsyou have to be patient18:28
daftykinsyeah askubuntu.com and forums are valid approaches too18:29
daftykinshas someone had you use a newer mainline kernel at any point?18:29
dangoo87we tried, and it crashed the system.  A guy named TJ helped him get back to 15.04 default I think it was where at least the computer works.18:30
daftykinsah yeah18:30
daftykinsknowledgable fellow that one18:30
dangoo87We did get the sound all working and stuff, but it's not liking switching between sound devices, and now I can't get anything but teamspeak to come through the headphones18:30
dangoo87TJ was awesome, was able to help Dan get it all sorted on his own as I was at work at the time, so I had to come on later and thank him, as reading the logs he was really patient and gave brilliant info and advice, walked him through step by step.  Legend of a guy18:32
daftykinsit's a lot easier when the helpee is competent, some we get in #ubuntu - ugh18:33
dangoo87haha i know the feeling18:33
daftykinsright i best commit to this food shopping idea18:34
* diddledan listens to the ubupodcast19:32
diddledanmattermost sounds intriguing19:43
diddledanshauno, is it time for winkelwagen?20:25
diddledan:-o20:25
ali1234is it possible to easily run firefox in a restricted cgroups environment yet?22:25
penguin42ali1234: Good question, not sure; one person I was chatting to was suggesting just running it as a separate user22:25
ali1234i want to limit CPU and RAM usage22:26
ali1234i'm running dev edition with e10s and now instead of using 100% CPU it uses 400% CPU22:26
penguin42RAM should be doable with ulimit22:26
ali1234and several gigabytes22:26
ali1234ulimit is a hard limit though22:26
ali1234cgroups can limit physical memory but still allow the process to swap22:27
ali1234or so i've been told22:27
penguin42ali1234: rlimit_rss in getrusage so that should be a ulimit - 'specifies the limit in pages of the processes resident set'22:28
penguin42yeh, ulimit -m22:28
ali1234not an actual limit22:29
ali1234"the system may give the process more memory when there is a surplus."22:29

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