| bluesabre | back | 00:00 |
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| bluesabre | Unit193: suppose its time to start uploading things again | 00:02 |
| bluesabre | Unit193: do you have a computer with nvidia? | 00:02 |
| Unit193 | Not new nvidia. | 00:02 |
| bluesabre | even better | 00:03 |
| bluesabre | http://git.xfce.org/xfce/xfwm4/commit/?id=8a67212860898ef02fee79f64fc774bc14ed769c | 00:03 |
| bluesabre | I wonder if that works for older nvidia | 00:03 |
| bluesabre | (and newer_ | 00:04 |
| Unit193 | xfce 10439 | 00:04 |
| ubottu | bugzilla.xfce.org bug 10439 in General "Use GLX for compositing instead of Xrender" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10439 | 00:04 |
| bluesabre | I think you have an ati/amd box around, right? | 00:05 |
| Unit193 | fglrx netbook. | 00:05 |
| bluesabre | that would be a fun test if you're interested | 00:06 |
| bluesabre | I'm probably going to add that patch to one of my ppas and give it a go | 00:06 |
| Unit193 | 204 on nvidia, and the fglrx is a slightly older version as the new one was craptastic. | 00:06 |
| drc | Interesting. 15.04 now has FF40 while 15.10(b1 atleast) has FF38. | 00:08 |
| bluesabre | yeah, for some reason devel always lags behind on firefox releases | 00:09 |
| Unit193 | drc: It's in -proposed, because of a stupid ftbfs on powerpc. | 00:09 |
| drc | People still have PowerPC's? | 00:10 |
| Unit193 | Doesn't matter, it's still holding things back. | 00:10 |
| bluesabre | g5 still has one of the coolest cases | 00:10 |
| Unit193 | (I do, but not putting Ubuntu on it.) | 00:10 |
| Unit193 | bluesabre: Got a G3, laptop and desktop. :P | 00:11 |
| bluesabre | sawtooth? | 00:11 |
| bluesabre | I can only imagine how slow those things must be | 00:11 |
| Unit193 | bluesabre: So I'm supposed to test this for some reason then? And you'll do a good job patching it up? :P | 00:25 |
| bluesabre | Unit193: don't worry aobout it yet, I'll bug you about it again later :) | 00:26 |
| bluesabre | I wonder if we have to FFe xfpanel-switch to just add it to the seed... | 00:27 |
| knome | we should get our target size changed to avoid those "oversizes" messages | 06:40 |
| Unit193 | Or become smaller again... | 06:44 |
| knome | mhm, not so easy this time | 06:45 |
| Unit193 | Well, aren't gcc/g++/etc unstripped? | 06:46 |
| Unit193 | That'll help some. | 06:46 |
| knome | what do you mean by unstripped | 06:48 |
| newform8|SM-G386 | Arizona Nebraska Units States they spell anus | 07:05 |
| knome | newform8|SM-G386, this is a family-friendly channel. | 07:05 |
| knome | newform8|SM-G386, so please stop. thank you. | 07:05 |
| newform8|SM-G386 | you're welcome I will | 07:05 |
| knome | also, if you are looking for a general chatter room, we have #xubuntu-offtopic for that purpose (family-friendly as well) | 07:06 |
| newform8|SM-G386 | thanks I'm there now but I don't want to talk about what I typed about. you see, I thought I was typing that into a different room | 07:11 |
| knome | newform8|SM-G386, you are free not to talk. | 07:27 |
| knome | newform8|SM-G386, but please do the not talking or talking on #xubuntu-offtopic | 07:27 |
| knome | unless it is related to xubuntu development. | 07:27 |
| DalekSec | Then do the talking or the not talking on #xubuntu-devel. | 07:28 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: just fyi, i asked around and ubiquity will get a new upload soon, so our installer bug (transition to feh) should be fixed for 15.10 | 08:02 |
| knome | :) | 08:02 |
| newform8|SM-G386 | knome, I understand, I was just saying that I didn't mean to type what I originally typed in here | 08:43 |
| newform8|SM-G386 | if I payed more attention to the label of the room, I would have entered the message onto the intended room, which wasn't this one | 08:44 |
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| bluesabre | ochosi: that's great news | 10:55 |
| bluesabre | ochosi: added a debdiff for our libreoffice report, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/1483914 | 10:55 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1483914 in libreoffice (Ubuntu) "libreoffice-style-elementary as alternate to libreoffice-style-human" [Undecided,New] | 10:55 |
| bluesabre | it takes FOREVER to build lo | 10:55 |
| Unit193 | Yeeep | 11:01 |
| bluesabre | oh boy | 11:02 |
| bluesabre | here comes gcc5 | 11:02 |
| * bluesabre closes email app | 11:03 | |
| Unit193 | gcc5? | 11:08 |
| bluesabre | "No-change rebuild using GCC 5." | 11:10 |
| bluesabre | lots and lots and lots of that | 11:11 |
| Unit193 | You haven't updated in a while, have you? | 11:20 |
| Unit193 | bluesabre: In wily, apt-cache show suckless-tools, what do you see? | 11:21 |
| flocculant | not seen any rebuilds for gcc5 for a week or so | 11:21 |
| * Unit193 just did a ton today. | 11:22 | |
| bluesabre | Unit193: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12213468/ | 11:24 |
| Unit193 | Not just me, wondered if it'd matter en_GB vs en_US. | 11:25 |
| Unit193 | bluesabre: Thanks, missing long description. | 11:25 |
| bluesabre | np | 11:25 |
| flocculant | bluesabre: did you see the parole crash of close with X comment yesterday? | 11:26 |
| flocculant | which I can confirm | 11:26 |
| knome | pleia2, updated lp:xubuntu-website/docs-startpage (14.10 is EOL) | 11:26 |
| flocculant | bug 1489533 | 11:27 |
| ubottu | bug 1489533 in parole (Ubuntu) "Parole freezes when you try to close it" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1489533 | 11:27 |
| flocculant | added crash file to it | 11:34 |
| flocculant | bluesabre: want that reported at bugzilla? | 11:37 |
| brainwash | bug 1488494 | 11:42 |
| ubottu | bug 1488494 in parole (Ubuntu) "/usr/bin/parole:11:handler_unref_R:g_signal_handler_disconnect:parole_gst_shutdown:parole_player_quit:parole_player_stopped" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1488494 | 11:42 |
| bluesabre | flocculant: sure, if you're feeling reporty | 11:43 |
| brainwash | flocculant: this appears to be related | 11:43 |
| bluesabre | and thanks! | 11:43 |
| bluesabre | and hey brainwash | 11:43 |
| brainwash | hello bluesabre | 11:43 |
| bluesabre | I'll be working on bug reports this weekend, trying to knock the big ones out (mugshot camera, parole crash on close) | 11:44 |
| bluesabre | I have a mostly working solution for mugshot | 11:45 |
| bluesabre | currently camera is flipped and missing the right side, so not yet complete :D | 11:46 |
| bluesabre | gotta run, bbl | 11:52 |
| flocculant | bluesabre: ok, done that | 12:01 |
| flocculant | brainwash: it does | 12:01 |
| knome | ochosi, bluesabre: is the plan to keep 4.12 for 16.04, eg. no develeopment components? | 13:29 |
| ochosi | knome: depends, so far there is only the power manager that comes to mind... | 13:30 |
| knome | long time until 16.04 too | 13:30 |
| ochosi | i presume we'd manage to do a first stable release with that | 13:30 |
| ochosi | but i don't expect too much overall progress in xfce-land until 16.04 tbh | 13:30 |
| ochosi | unless a horde of motivated devs show up and port the hell out of it | 13:30 |
| flocculant | hello peeps | 13:30 |
| ochosi | hey flocculant | 13:32 |
| knome | 'lo | 13:32 |
| ochosi | knome, bluesabre: after some more thinking, i guess we'll have to evaluate the situation during 16.04 based on xfce4.14's progress, but i guess i'd rather be conservative about mixing in dev versions in the LTS release | 13:37 |
| knome | like in 12.04? (: | 13:37 |
| ochosi | hehe | 13:37 |
| ochosi | well if the 4.14 progress means we might be able to upgrade 16.04 to it "soon after the release"... | 13:38 |
| knome | hah | 13:38 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: btw, ofourdan is not a fan of us picking the vsync patch for xubuntu (read #xfce-dev ftm) | 13:38 |
| bluesabre | ochosi: it's ok, we're past ff now and I wasn't sure about it yet | 14:25 |
| bluesabre | ochosi: re: 16.04 and 4.14 | 14:26 |
| bluesabre | let's not ship too many dev things | 14:26 |
| bluesabre | unless we're already carrying them in wily | 14:26 |
| bluesabre | can be a huge pain to update them later in that lts cycle, so many things change around in dev releases | 14:27 |
| bluesabre | let's shoot for a really solid release ;) | 14:29 |
| sidi | Hey, im having trouble building the Xubuntu 14.04 version of Thunar | 16:26 |
| sidi | says I'm missing thunar-thumbnail-cache-dbus.xml | 16:26 |
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| knome | bluesabre, i think i generally agree - mostly because i don't think there's anything worth breaking our LTS in 4.13 | 17:36 |
| knome | bluesabre, and heads up, we want to upload the wallpaper before UIF, please tell me when you need it so you will certainly have time to upload it | 17:51 |
| knome | slickymasterWork, ping ping, we should look at updating the installer slideshow some time soon | 17:51 |
| slickymasterWork | yes we should knome. Next sunday? Are you free? | 17:53 |
| slickymasterWork | I'll be unavailable tonight and tomorrow all day | 17:53 |
| slickymasterWork | still no word from neither from dylan or from graber | 17:54 |
| slickymasterWork | - from | 17:55 |
| slickymasterWork | have to go now, knome but will be around sunday | 17:58 |
| knome | slickymaster, sunday should work, though wife has a day off, so i don't know about the day | 18:05 |
| knome | slickymaster, evening is good as always | 18:06 |
| bluesabre | sidi: ./configure --enable-maintainer-mode | 19:01 |
| bluesabre | knome: anytime you want to make it available I can upload it | 19:02 |
| sidi | bluesabre, damn that must be what i was missing | 19:49 |
| sidi | i ended up copy pastaing xml files from another build tree, so lame :x | 19:49 |
| knome | sidi, newb. | 19:50 |
| sidi | knome, meh. | 19:55 |
| sidi | i was busy | 19:55 |
| bluesabre | sidi: that might have solved it, and if not, pretend that I didn't say anything | 19:59 |
| sidi | bluesabre, I reckon you're right from what I read in the makefiles | 20:00 |
| sidi | i'm pretty confident I forgot to use that flag | 20:00 |
| bluesabre | :) | 20:00 |
| pleia2 | knome: flyers arrived early! | 20:21 |
| pleia2 | knome: https://www.flickr.com/photos/pleia2/20966299721/ & https://www.flickr.com/photos/pleia2/20966314621/ | 20:25 |
| pleia2 | (and anyone else who is interested :)) | 20:26 |
| bluesabre | pleia2: those look great! | 20:28 |
| pleia2 | yeah, I'm really happy with them | 20:29 |
| knome | pleia2, awesome | 20:34 |
| knome | now you can close your work item and see it being done today on the timeline ;) | 20:34 |
| pleia2 | yeah already DONE-ed in | 20:35 |
| pleia2 | s/in/it | 20:35 |
| knome | cool | 20:35 |
| knome | and it shows up as it should | 20:35 |
| knome | \o/ | 20:35 |
| knome | we should get these up on the website and social mediaize it | 20:36 |
| pleia2 | social mediaed | 20:36 |
| knome | oh | 20:36 |
| knome | ok | 20:36 |
| pleia2 | no time to do blog post right now, maybe once we update the website and generate download links and stuff | 20:36 |
| * pleia2 airplane in a few hours | 20:36 | |
| knome | ok, i'll be on my desktop soon and can prepare stuff etc | 20:38 |
| mhall119 | pleia2: are you getting community donations money to print those flyers? | 21:04 |
| knome | updated http://xubuntu.org/products/ with preliminary stuff; will move the files to static.xubuntu.org later | 21:08 |
| knome | pleia2, ^ feel free to comment (or just overwrite) if you think it can be further improved) | 21:08 |
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| ochosi | bluesabre: yeah agreed | 21:55 |
| knome | pleia2, lp:xubuntu-website/static-assets is updated for your pleasure | 22:09 |
| knome | ochosi, quick question: does the formatting of the release names satisfy you in the sidebar at http://xstaging.lallinaho.fi/blog/ ? | 22:09 |
| knome | ochosi, and is http://xstaging.lallinaho.fi/release/14-04/ fine for the formatting as is? | 22:09 |
| knome | if yes, then i'll ask IS to take this to production | 22:10 |
| ochosi | looks good to me, but why does 13.04 not have a codename? | 22:10 |
| knome | because it's not inserted | 22:11 |
| ochosi | /o\ | 22:11 |
| knome | hah | 22:11 |
| ochosi | no seriously, looks good to me :) | 22:12 |
| knome | heh, good to have checked. | 22:13 |
| knome | let's make a sane order for the widget. | 22:13 |
| * knome looks up the documentation for "get_germs" | 22:13 | |
| knome | oopsiedaisy. | 22:14 |
| knome | no natural "version" sort | 22:14 |
| knome | righto, done | 22:35 |
| knome | poking IS next | 22:37 |
| knome | ok, done | 22:43 |
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| azzenovic_ | hi I've read about xubuntu core and I was wondering apart from being bare bones(no application preinstalled nearly) does it offer the same xfce experience as Xubuntu ? | 23:40 |
| knome | not exactly the same, but there are surely similarities | 23:43 |
| azzenovic_ | mmmm in other words what am i gonna miss exactly? | 23:43 |
| knome | there is no definite list | 23:44 |
| knome | see yourself | 23:44 |
| azzenovic_ | Xubuntu has been surprising me for years and to be frank I needed something barebones like xubuntu core | 23:47 |
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