[00:00] back [00:02] Unit193: suppose its time to start uploading things again [00:02] Unit193: do you have a computer with nvidia? [00:02] Not new nvidia. [00:03] even better [00:03] http://git.xfce.org/xfce/xfwm4/commit/?id=8a67212860898ef02fee79f64fc774bc14ed769c [00:03] I wonder if that works for older nvidia [00:04] (and newer_ [00:04] xfce 10439 [00:04] bugzilla.xfce.org bug 10439 in General "Use GLX for compositing instead of Xrender" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10439 [00:05] I think you have an ati/amd box around, right? [00:05] fglrx netbook. [00:06] that would be a fun test if you're interested [00:06] I'm probably going to add that patch to one of my ppas and give it a go [00:06] 204 on nvidia, and the fglrx is a slightly older version as the new one was craptastic. [00:08] Interesting. 15.04 now has FF40 while 15.10(b1 atleast) has FF38. [00:09] yeah, for some reason devel always lags behind on firefox releases [00:09] drc: It's in -proposed, because of a stupid ftbfs on powerpc. [00:10] People still have PowerPC's? [00:10] Doesn't matter, it's still holding things back. [00:10] g5 still has one of the coolest cases [00:10] (I do, but not putting Ubuntu on it.) [00:11] bluesabre: Got a G3, laptop and desktop. :P [00:11] sawtooth? [00:11] I can only imagine how slow those things must be [00:25] bluesabre: So I'm supposed to test this for some reason then? And you'll do a good job patching it up? :P [00:26] Unit193: don't worry aobout it yet, I'll bug you about it again later :) [00:27] I wonder if we have to FFe xfpanel-switch to just add it to the seed... [06:40] we should get our target size changed to avoid those "oversizes" messages [06:44] Or become smaller again... [06:45] mhm, not so easy this time [06:46] Well, aren't gcc/g++/etc unstripped? [06:46] That'll help some. [06:48] what do you mean by unstripped [07:05] Arizona Nebraska Units States they spell anus [07:05] newform8|SM-G386, this is a family-friendly channel. [07:05] newform8|SM-G386, so please stop. thank you. [07:05] you're welcome I will [07:06] also, if you are looking for a general chatter room, we have #xubuntu-offtopic for that purpose (family-friendly as well) [07:11] thanks I'm there now but I don't want to talk about what I typed about. you see, I thought I was typing that into a different room [07:27] newform8|SM-G386, you are free not to talk. [07:27] newform8|SM-G386, but please do the not talking or talking on #xubuntu-offtopic [07:27] unless it is related to xubuntu development. [07:28] Then do the talking or the not talking on #xubuntu-devel. [08:02] bluesabre: just fyi, i asked around and ubiquity will get a new upload soon, so our installer bug (transition to feh) should be fixed for 15.10 [08:02] :) [08:43] knome, I understand, I was just saying that I didn't mean to type what I originally typed in here [08:44] if I payed more attention to the label of the room, I would have entered the message onto the intended room, which wasn't this one === blaze is now known as Guest35310 [10:55] ochosi: that's great news [10:55] ochosi: added a debdiff for our libreoffice report, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/1483914 [10:55] Launchpad bug 1483914 in libreoffice (Ubuntu) "libreoffice-style-elementary as alternate to libreoffice-style-human" [Undecided,New] [10:55] it takes FOREVER to build lo [11:01] Yeeep [11:02] oh boy [11:02] here comes gcc5 [11:03] * bluesabre closes email app [11:08] gcc5? [11:10] "No-change rebuild using GCC 5." [11:11] lots and lots and lots of that [11:20] You haven't updated in a while, have you? [11:21] bluesabre: In wily, apt-cache show suckless-tools, what do you see? [11:21] not seen any rebuilds for gcc5 for a week or so [11:22] * Unit193 just did a ton today. [11:24] Unit193: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12213468/ [11:25] Not just me, wondered if it'd matter en_GB vs en_US. [11:25] bluesabre: Thanks, missing long description. [11:25] np [11:26] bluesabre: did you see the parole crash of close with X comment yesterday? [11:26] which I can confirm [11:26] pleia2, updated lp:xubuntu-website/docs-startpage (14.10 is EOL) [11:27] bug 1489533 [11:27] bug 1489533 in parole (Ubuntu) "Parole freezes when you try to close it" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1489533 [11:34] added crash file to it [11:37] bluesabre: want that reported at bugzilla? [11:42] bug 1488494 [11:42] bug 1488494 in parole (Ubuntu) "/usr/bin/parole:11:handler_unref_R:g_signal_handler_disconnect:parole_gst_shutdown:parole_player_quit:parole_player_stopped" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1488494 [11:43] flocculant: sure, if you're feeling reporty [11:43] flocculant: this appears to be related [11:43] and thanks! [11:43] and hey brainwash [11:43] hello bluesabre [11:44] I'll be working on bug reports this weekend, trying to knock the big ones out (mugshot camera, parole crash on close) [11:45] I have a mostly working solution for mugshot [11:46] currently camera is flipped and missing the right side, so not yet complete :D [11:52] gotta run, bbl [12:01] bluesabre: ok, done that [12:01] brainwash: it does [13:29] ochosi, bluesabre: is the plan to keep 4.12 for 16.04, eg. no develeopment components? [13:30] knome: depends, so far there is only the power manager that comes to mind... [13:30] long time until 16.04 too [13:30] i presume we'd manage to do a first stable release with that [13:30] but i don't expect too much overall progress in xfce-land until 16.04 tbh [13:30] unless a horde of motivated devs show up and port the hell out of it [13:30] hello peeps [13:32] hey flocculant [13:32] 'lo [13:37] knome, bluesabre: after some more thinking, i guess we'll have to evaluate the situation during 16.04 based on xfce4.14's progress, but i guess i'd rather be conservative about mixing in dev versions in the LTS release [13:37] like in 12.04? (: [13:37] hehe [13:38] well if the 4.14 progress means we might be able to upgrade 16.04 to it "soon after the release"... [13:38] hah [13:38] bluesabre: btw, ofourdan is not a fan of us picking the vsync patch for xubuntu (read #xfce-dev ftm) [14:25] ochosi: it's ok, we're past ff now and I wasn't sure about it yet [14:26] ochosi: re: 16.04 and 4.14 [14:26] let's not ship too many dev things [14:26] unless we're already carrying them in wily [14:27] can be a huge pain to update them later in that lts cycle, so many things change around in dev releases [14:29] let's shoot for a really solid release ;) [16:26] Hey, im having trouble building the Xubuntu 14.04 version of Thunar [16:26] says I'm missing thunar-thumbnail-cache-dbus.xml === davmor2 is now known as davmor2_HOLS [17:36] bluesabre, i think i generally agree - mostly because i don't think there's anything worth breaking our LTS in 4.13 [17:51] bluesabre, and heads up, we want to upload the wallpaper before UIF, please tell me when you need it so you will certainly have time to upload it [17:51] slickymasterWork, ping ping, we should look at updating the installer slideshow some time soon [17:53] yes we should knome. Next sunday? Are you free? [17:53] I'll be unavailable tonight and tomorrow all day [17:54] still no word from neither from dylan or from graber [17:55] - from [17:58] have to go now, knome but will be around sunday [18:05] slickymaster, sunday should work, though wife has a day off, so i don't know about the day [18:06] slickymaster, evening is good as always [19:01] sidi: ./configure --enable-maintainer-mode [19:02] knome: anytime you want to make it available I can upload it [19:49] bluesabre, damn that must be what i was missing [19:49] i ended up copy pastaing xml files from another build tree, so lame :x [19:50] sidi, newb. [19:55] knome, meh. [19:55] i was busy [19:59] sidi: that might have solved it, and if not, pretend that I didn't say anything [20:00] bluesabre, I reckon you're right from what I read in the makefiles [20:00] i'm pretty confident I forgot to use that flag [20:00] :) [20:21] knome: flyers arrived early! [20:25] knome: https://www.flickr.com/photos/pleia2/20966299721/ & https://www.flickr.com/photos/pleia2/20966314621/ [20:26] (and anyone else who is interested :)) [20:28] pleia2: those look great! [20:29] yeah, I'm really happy with them [20:34] pleia2, awesome [20:34] now you can close your work item and see it being done today on the timeline ;) [20:35] yeah already DONE-ed in [20:35] s/in/it [20:35] cool [20:35] and it shows up as it should [20:35] \o/ [20:36] we should get these up on the website and social mediaize it [20:36] social mediaed [20:36] oh [20:36] ok [20:36] no time to do blog post right now, maybe once we update the website and generate download links and stuff [20:36] * pleia2 airplane in a few hours [20:38] ok, i'll be on my desktop soon and can prepare stuff etc [21:04] pleia2: are you getting community donations money to print those flyers? [21:08] updated http://xubuntu.org/products/ with preliminary stuff; will move the files to static.xubuntu.org later [21:08] pleia2, ^ feel free to comment (or just overwrite) if you think it can be further improved) === sorinello_ is now known as sorinello === brainwash_ is now known as brainwash [21:55] bluesabre: yeah agreed [22:09] pleia2, lp:xubuntu-website/static-assets is updated for your pleasure [22:09] ochosi, quick question: does the formatting of the release names satisfy you in the sidebar at http://xstaging.lallinaho.fi/blog/ ? [22:09] ochosi, and is http://xstaging.lallinaho.fi/release/14-04/ fine for the formatting as is? [22:10] if yes, then i'll ask IS to take this to production [22:10] looks good to me, but why does 13.04 not have a codename? [22:11] because it's not inserted [22:11] /o\ [22:11] hah [22:12] no seriously, looks good to me :) [22:13] heh, good to have checked. [22:13] let's make a sane order for the widget. [22:13] * knome looks up the documentation for "get_germs" [22:14] oopsiedaisy. [22:14] no natural "version" sort [22:35] righto, done [22:37] poking IS next [22:43] ok, done === azzenovic is now known as azzenovic_ [23:40] hi I've read about xubuntu core and I was wondering apart from being bare bones(no application preinstalled nearly) does it offer the same xfce experience as Xubuntu ? [23:43] not exactly the same, but there are surely similarities [23:43] mmmm in other words what am i gonna miss exactly? [23:44] there is no definite list [23:44] see yourself [23:47] Xubuntu has been surprising me for years and to be frank I needed something barebones like xubuntu core