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misterno | topic | 01:47 |
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Fritigern | Suddenly, Kubuntu has decided to prohibit the execution of shell scripts from the desktop, even if it is a linked one. The message is "The file desktop:/<script_name> is an executable program. For safety it will not be started". I have used that script for a long time and i want to keep using it from the desktop. How can I restore the old behaviour? | 02:24 |
valorie | Fritigern: I was getting that for awhile too | 02:42 |
valorie | have you upgraded to plasma 5? | 02:42 |
Fritigern | I have been using P5 for a couplew of months now. But i recently added the packports PPA. | 02:43 |
Fritigern | *backports (stupid typos) | 02:45 |
Fritigern | valorie: How did you fix this issue? If at all. | 02:47 |
valorie | Fritigern: I think I removed it and readded it | 02:48 |
valorie | the xdg-data-dir path is now different | 02:49 |
valorie | rather than ~/.kde/* it is now ~/.config and ~/.local | 02:49 |
valorie | somehow or other I fixed it, and that must have been it | 02:50 |
Fritigern | I'm afraid that I already knew about ~/.config, though I have yet to explore ~/.local, though I don;t know what I could/should look for | 02:51 |
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Guest77126 | Hi, i am haveing problems downloading and installing updates on Kubuntu 15.04. http://hastebin.com/yahepemaku.avrasm | 12:04 |
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BluesKaj | Hiyas all | 12:47 |
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lordievader | Good afternoon. | 13:36 |
admin-g | hello is anybody online?? | 13:39 |
lordievader | admin-g: See /names | 13:39 |
admin-g | lordievader i am having some problems with kubuntu desktop enviorment on ubuntu 15.04 when i start my computer it goes right into kubuntu and i get a blackscreen and the mouse | 13:40 |
lordievader | admin-g: Does alt+f2 get your krunner? | 13:41 |
admin-g | lordievader i can get there but no commands work it doesnt even ask me to sign in | 13:42 |
lordievader | admin-g: Is that blackscreen after you login or before? | 13:44 |
admin-g | lordievader before | 13:44 |
lordievader | admin-g: Hmm, interesting. What graphics card and driver do you use? | 13:45 |
admin-g | lordievader its intel HD and the drivers are the ones from the open source when you install ubuntu | 13:46 |
lordievader | Intel and a black screen? Wow. Try nomodeset perhaps that fixes things. | 13:47 |
lordievader | !nomodeset | 13:47 |
ubottu | A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter | 13:47 |
misterno | any news on when will 14.10 come out | 13:48 |
admin-g | should i put that in the terminal?? | 13:48 |
admin-g | misterno ubuntu 14.10?? | 13:48 |
misterno | sorry 15.10 | 13:48 |
misterno | kubuntu | 13:48 |
lordievader | !schedule | 13:48 |
misterno | !schedule | 13:49 |
lordievader | 29-15:49 < ubottu> A schedule of wily werewolf (15.10) release milestones can be found here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReleaseSchedule | 13:49 |
* lordievader is back in a bit | 13:49 | |
admin-g | misterno ohh haha i was like wuut umm its 22 of oktober i think | 13:50 |
admin-g | misterno not 100% tho so dont hate me lol | 13:50 |
misterno | what about plasma 5.4 backport | 13:50 |
misterno | will that come sooner | 13:51 |
admin-g | misterno bro all the flavors come at the same time as ubuntu 15.10 does right now ubuntu and all the flavors or at alpha or something | 13:53 |
misterno | i see | 13:53 |
admin-g | misterno sorry they are in beta and its the 22nd of october that they will release | 13:55 |
excalibr | Hi. how do you change panel opacity in 15.04? | 14:01 |
excalibr | I dont see the option in panel settings | 14:02 |
admin-g | excalibr did you try to google it? | 14:03 |
SouL__ | Guys, where are the wallpapers saved? I don't remember where I placed my actual wallpaper, and I would like to know if there is some directory in Plasma pointing to the wallpaper or something. | 14:05 |
soee | excalibr: i thnk you can't. | 14:05 |
soee | SouL__: custom wallpaper ? | 14:05 |
SouL__ | Yes soee | 14:10 |
soee | so it is where you had it | 14:10 |
soee | try to hover wallpaper thumb and see its name, than search for this file | 14:11 |
BluesKaj | or create a wallpaper folder in ~/ and copy some of your fav pics over then choose yjr "open folder ' option in desktop settings | 14:13 |
lordievader | misterno: It might be that 5.4 will never be backported to Vivid. | 14:13 |
BluesKaj | yjr/yr/your | 14:14 |
SouL__ | soee: I don't have the HDD where I placed the wallpaper, so i think is stored somewhere else too | 14:14 |
misterno | lordievader i see, most likely will come with 15.10 | 14:14 |
lordievader | misterno: That is what I think. Wily will get it first anyways and it is still at 5.4 beta (last time I checked). So I think, just my thoughts, 5.4 will go to Wily only since it is a lot of work to backport it to Vidid. And since the support window for Vivid is rather short it ain't really worth it. | 14:16 |
alvin | I just came in here to look for those backports. I'm fed up with 5.3's bugs. | 14:26 |
BluesKaj | Wily's a mess on my pc, so i'm giving up on it for a while | 14:38 |
lordievader | BluesKaj: A mess how? | 14:39 |
BluesKaj | unusable , ..freezes and crashes | 14:39 |
lordievader | Hmm... | 14:40 |
BluesKaj | and i don't like it anyway ...plasma 5 isn't for me | 14:40 |
BluesKaj | I'm very disappointed in the direction KDE /Kubuntu is going | 14:41 |
BluesKaj | sticking with 14.04 for now | 14:43 |
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r3dks | Hi, I just upgraded to 15.10 beta via 'do-release-upgrade', but I'm not sure I see KDE Applications 15.08 apps. Dolphin, for example, still seems to be the 4.x version. Do I need to upgrade the kde packages separately? | 15:37 |
r3dks | (I'm sorry if this is not the right channel for unreleased/beta discussions) | 15:37 |
soee | 15.08 aren't yet in archive | 15:41 |
soee | some parts amybe | 15:41 |
r3dks | soee: Oh, ok. I saw https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WilyWerewolf/Beta1/Kubuntu#KDE_Applications_15.08 and thought they were in | 15:42 |
soee | not yet, kopete is a bit hard to package in this release | 15:43 |
soee | and it holds back apps | 15:43 |
r3dks | soee: ok, will check back later. Thanks! | 15:45 |
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ejay | Last update for wily is just great. Bravo. Braaavoo. | 16:19 |
ejay | It's like - plasma is fucked up, let's make it even more broken. | 16:20 |
soee | it works fine for me :) | 16:21 |
soee | you did upgrade from Vivid ? | 16:22 |
ejay | I mean, I know it's alpha but damn, plasma was fine till last update. Why, they destroyed it again. | 16:22 |
lordievader | ejay: Please watch your language. | 16:22 |
ejay | lordievader: fucked up is a perfect desctription of what is goin on now with plasma. | 16:24 |
ejay | such mess | 16:24 |
lordievader | ejay: Again, watch your language. This is a family friendly channel. | 16:24 |
soee | ejay: hey, you have stable Unity you can use :) | 16:25 |
ejay | unity is trying to invent circle. useless. | 16:26 |
soee | atm. there is a lot happening in Kubuntu packaging that may cause troubles thats why development versions aren't recomended for daily use | 16:27 |
soee | alse there was this gcc transition in ubuntu | 16:28 |
ejay | "stable" is as usable as alpha so yeah | 16:28 |
soee | ejay: anyway you did fresh install ? | 16:28 |
ejay | soee: fresh install - what for? | 16:30 |
soee | ejay: i'm just asking if you are trying some fresh install or if you did upgrade. Anyway as ia said, atm. a lot is happening with packages and not all will work as expected. For example today updates want to remove kubuntu-dekstop, okular etc. :) | 16:34 |
soee | i suggest to stay with on Vivid or LTS and if you decide to use Wily please be ready to have something broken | 16:35 |
soee | you/we can't expect all will work all the time on developement version. tbh. it is impossible :) | 16:36 |
ejay | im on wily because it is working better then 15.04. everything were fine till last update when plasmashell decided to go full retard. | 16:37 |
soee | please define retard ? | 16:39 |
soee | did you tried upgrade to 5.4 ? | 16:39 |
nishikino-maki | KDE5.4.... i think it's will be added wayland support? | 16:40 |
soee | there is no KDE 5.4, it is Plasma 5.4 | 16:41 |
ejay | soee: i'm in a process of looking for cause of high as hell plasmashell hunger for cpu, removing cache files did not help. | 16:43 |
soee | ejay: on what Plasma version ? | 16:43 |
ejay | soee: 5.3.95? | 16:43 |
soee | oh ok, maybe you want to try 5.4 final if you are not afraid something might break :) | 16:44 |
ejay | yeah, its 5.3.95. up to date wily alpha 1 | 16:44 |
ejay | soee: is it in backports? | 16:46 |
soee | ejay: no, backports for Wily are empty as there is not higher version to backport anything from | 16:46 |
soee | Plasma 5.4 is in staging ppa | 16:46 |
ejay | soee: mkay, thanks | 16:48 |
ejay | soee: is it ppa:kubuntu-ppa/staging-plasma ? | 16:52 |
soee | ejay: yes | 16:53 |
ejay | soee: thanks | 16:53 |
soee | ejay: but one package probably wont upgrade, it is plasma-nm beaus eit requires one package that is currently in proposed ppa, so you either enable proposed ppa (than might break your system) or download this package and install manualy | 16:54 |
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ejay | soee: hahahahaha | 16:57 |
soee | i'm not sure what is funny here | 16:58 |
ejay | I was like "i will spend 30 mins with Rosseta Stone" and now I need to fix that mess. | 17:00 |
ejay | it is funny IMHO | 17:01 |
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ejay | Ok, lets assume that I want to help to make plasma better. I want to file a bug report but have no clue where to look for clues what broke plasmashell. Symptons: plasmashell is eating 25% of cpu. Clearing cache is not a solution. | 17:18 |
ejay | It started just after booting my laptop. Everything was fine till today. | 17:19 |
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admin-g_ | hello guys i was wondering how to change the path of webstorm when i try to start it the computer gives me a alert window saying "could not launch <path to webstorm.sh>" i went to that path toonly to be reminded that i moved my webstorm to another path | 18:34 |
Fritigern | admin-g_: As a workaround, you could set a symlink at the the old webstorm location. I should allow webstorm to work again until you find a more permanent solution. | 19:20 |
admin-g_ | Fritigern what do you mean with a syslink | 19:31 |
admin-g_ | Fritigern nvm i think i got what you meant what i did was i took the Webstorm folder it tried to open and placed it where it thought it was and it is working with no problems now | 19:35 |
KNRO | Will 15.10 ship with Plasma 5.4 ? | 19:56 |
yofel | yes | 20:02 |
reborn | how it stable for kubuntu 15.04? | 20:14 |
soee | what ? :) | 20:17 |
reborn | How it stable for kubuntu 15.04? is good or waiting for next the new verison? | 20:17 |
soee | well it should be stable, but keep in mind it uses Plasma 5 | 20:18 |
reborn | Yes, i am aware of that. | 20:18 |
soee | and using backports ppa is recommended to get 5.3.2 | 20:18 |
ejay | reborn: 15.04 is not stable and ready for daily use | 20:19 |
reborn | i see. | 20:19 |
soee | ejay: maybe for you. it worked perfect for me since very first betas :) | 20:20 |
ejay | soee: lucky you | 20:21 |
soee | i'v been using it on 3 machines before jump to Wily on all of them | 20:21 |
soee | ejay: i think it is impossible to make system fully work on 100% machines, so i think we can call 15.04 stable but each shoudl test it | 20:23 |
reborn | nice | 20:24 |
reborn | soee, what's your spec computer? | 20:25 |
akasic | youll find flash issues, power management issues, power off issues, not able to unninstall some themes and then juts push to bash... | 20:26 |
soee | reborn: they are various, my parents have some Core2duo + nvidia, i'm working now on Dell laptop (i7, nvidia, 8GB ram), at work i have intel cpu + nvidia | 20:27 |
akasic | few plasma widgets | 20:28 |
soee | akasic: power off issue shoudl be fixed with 5.3.2 | 20:28 |
ejay | soee: plasma in 15.04 is just broken. with wily stability is far better. that was a such stupid idea to jump into plasma with 15.04. | 20:28 |
soee | lso what flash issues ? | 20:28 |
akasic | uncompability when installing other window managers, the wm selector may turn black | 20:28 |
akasic | etc | 20:29 |
akasic | are the developers going to make something with the plasmoids? any way to make them for 5 | 20:31 |
reborn | I see. i am fan of AMD. | 20:32 |
akasic | nah, is flash specific probably | 20:32 |
reborn | and i am not interest in games. | 20:32 |
akasic | one than visualizing videos, its open the audio over the finished one, in the same window, instead of going to the next page, on utube | 20:32 |
soee | akasic: what plasmoids/widgets ? | 20:33 |
akasic | as u see, my computer may differ from yours | 20:33 |
akasic | for example, the moons of jupiter or the solar-system | 20:33 |
soee | akasic: this is not related to Kubuntu but Plasma :) you should ask on #plasma if there are any plans to port them to Plasma 5 | 20:34 |
akasic | ok hnx | 20:35 |
akasic | thnx | 20:35 |
reborn | so how about new feature for 5.4? | 20:38 |
akasic | i must recognize that in the last 4 weeks, it increased its stability and strange issues had decreased a lot | 20:38 |
akasic | also, in the last updates, my battery was behaving very strange (not broken) and sometimes charge, and ohers not, my solution was to open the pc, and extract the built-in battery | 20:39 |
akasic | after that, the pc became very smooth and fast | 20:40 |
reborn | which is link for latest update? | 20:43 |
akasic | for an image or what | 20:50 |
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reborn | i am now installed kubuntu 15.04, which link for backport to update? | 21:45 |
strayPuppy | Hey guys, is there anyway to restart the desktop after is crashed? my icons, menu bars and backgrounds are gone, but my apps are still running? | 21:49 |
strayPuppy | oops forget, it just came back on. | 21:50 |
strayPuppy | still would like to know what is the command, cause it has happened before. | 21:50 |
bprompt | strayPuppy: http://askubuntu.com/questions/213680/how-to-restart-kwin-when-it-is-hung | 21:51 |
strayPuppy | bprompt: wow, thanks! | 21:51 |
strayPuppy | that's exactly what I needed Cheers! | 21:54 |
bprompt | np | 21:55 |
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