[01:47] <misterno> topic
[02:24] <Fritigern> Suddenly, Kubuntu has decided to prohibit the execution of shell scripts from the desktop, even if it is a linked one. The message is "The file desktop:/<script_name> is an executable program. For safety it will not be started". I have used that script for a long time and i want to keep using it from the desktop. How can I restore the old behaviour?
[02:42] <valorie> Fritigern: I was getting that for awhile too
[02:42] <valorie> have you upgraded to plasma 5?
[02:43] <Fritigern> I have been using P5 for a couplew of months now. But i recently added the packports PPA.
[02:45] <Fritigern> *backports (stupid typos)
[02:47] <Fritigern> valorie: How did you fix this issue? If at all.
[02:48] <valorie> Fritigern: I think I removed it and readded it
[02:49] <valorie> the xdg-data-dir path is now different
[02:49] <valorie> rather than ~/.kde/* it is now ~/.config and ~/.local
[02:50] <valorie> somehow or other I fixed it, and that must have been it
[02:51] <Fritigern> I'm afraid that I already knew about ~/.config, though I have yet to explore ~/.local, though I don;t know what I could/should look for
[12:04] <Guest77126> Hi, i am haveing problems downloading and installing updates on Kubuntu 15.04. http://hastebin.com/yahepemaku.avrasm
[12:47] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:36] <lordievader> Good afternoon.
[13:39] <admin-g> hello is anybody online??
[13:39] <lordievader> admin-g: See /names
[13:40] <admin-g> lordievader i am having some problems with kubuntu desktop enviorment on ubuntu 15.04 when i start my computer it goes right into kubuntu and i get a blackscreen and the mouse
[13:41] <lordievader> admin-g: Does alt+f2 get your krunner?
[13:42] <admin-g> lordievader i can get there but no commands work it doesnt even ask me to sign in
[13:44] <lordievader> admin-g: Is that blackscreen after you login or before?
[13:44] <admin-g> lordievader before
[13:45] <lordievader> admin-g: Hmm, interesting. What graphics card and driver do you use?
[13:46] <admin-g> lordievader its intel HD and the drivers are the ones from the open source when you install ubuntu
[13:47] <lordievader> Intel and a black screen? Wow. Try nomodeset perhaps that fixes things.
[13:47] <lordievader> !nomodeset
[13:48] <misterno> any news on when will 14.10 come out
[13:48] <admin-g> should i put that in the terminal??
[13:48] <admin-g> misterno ubuntu 14.10??
[13:48] <misterno> sorry 15.10
[13:48] <misterno> kubuntu
[13:48] <lordievader> !schedule
[13:49] <misterno> !schedule
[13:49] <lordievader> 29-15:49 < ubottu> A schedule of wily werewolf (15.10) release milestones can be found here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReleaseSchedule
[13:49]  * lordievader is back in a bit
[13:50] <admin-g> misterno ohh haha i was like wuut umm its 22 of oktober i think
[13:50] <admin-g> misterno not 100% tho so dont hate me lol
[13:50] <misterno> what about plasma 5.4 backport
[13:51] <misterno> will that come sooner
[13:53] <admin-g> misterno bro all the flavors come at the same time as ubuntu 15.10 does right now ubuntu and all the flavors or at alpha or something
[13:53] <misterno> i see
[13:55] <admin-g> misterno sorry they are in beta and its the 22nd of october that they will release
[14:01] <excalibr> Hi. how do you change panel opacity in 15.04?
[14:02] <excalibr> I dont see the option in panel settings
[14:03] <admin-g> excalibr did you try to google it?
[14:05] <SouL__> Guys, where are the wallpapers saved? I don't remember where I placed my actual wallpaper, and I would like to know if there is some directory in Plasma pointing to the wallpaper or something.
[14:05] <soee> excalibr: i thnk you can't.
[14:05] <soee> SouL__: custom wallpaper ?
[14:10] <SouL__> Yes soee
[14:10] <soee> so it is where you had it
[14:11] <soee> try to hover wallpaper thumb and see its name, than search for this file
[14:13] <BluesKaj> or create a wallpaper folder in ~/ and copy some of your fav pics over then choose yjr "open folder ' option in desktop settings
[14:13] <lordievader> misterno: It might be that 5.4 will never be backported to Vivid.
[14:14] <BluesKaj> yjr/yr/your
[14:14] <SouL__> soee: I don't have the HDD where I placed the wallpaper, so i think is stored somewhere else too
[14:14] <misterno> lordievader i see, most likely will come with 15.10
[14:16] <lordievader> misterno: That is what I think. Wily will get it first anyways and it is still at 5.4 beta (last time I checked). So I think, just my thoughts, 5.4 will go to Wily only since it is a lot of work to backport it to Vidid. And since the support window for Vivid is rather short it ain't really worth it.
[14:26] <alvin> I just came in here to look for those backports. I'm fed up with 5.3's bugs.
[14:38] <BluesKaj> Wily's a mess on my pc, so i'm giving up on it for a while
[14:39] <lordievader> BluesKaj: A mess how?
[14:39] <BluesKaj> unusable , ..freezes and crashes
[14:40] <lordievader> Hmm...
[14:40] <BluesKaj> and i don't like it anyway ...plasma 5 isn't for me
[14:41] <BluesKaj> I'm very disappointed in the direction KDE /Kubuntu is going
[14:43] <BluesKaj> sticking with 14.04 for now
[15:37] <r3dks> Hi, I just upgraded to 15.10 beta via 'do-release-upgrade', but I'm not sure I see KDE Applications 15.08 apps. Dolphin, for example, still seems to be the 4.x version. Do I need to upgrade the kde packages separately?
[15:37] <r3dks> (I'm sorry if this is not the right channel for unreleased/beta discussions)
[15:41] <soee> 15.08 aren't yet in archive
[15:41] <soee> some parts amybe
[15:42] <r3dks> soee: Oh, ok. I saw https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WilyWerewolf/Beta1/Kubuntu#KDE_Applications_15.08 and thought they were in
[15:43] <soee> not yet, kopete is a bit hard to package in this release
[15:43] <soee> and it holds back apps
[15:45] <r3dks> soee: ok, will check back later. Thanks!
[16:19] <ejay> Last update for wily is just great. Bravo. Braaavoo.
[16:20] <ejay> It's like - plasma is fucked up, let's make it even more broken.
[16:21] <soee> it works fine for me :)
[16:22] <soee> you did upgrade from Vivid ?
[16:22] <ejay> I mean, I know it's alpha but damn, plasma was fine till last update. Why, they destroyed it again.
[16:22] <lordievader> ejay: Please watch your language.
[16:24] <ejay> lordievader: fucked up is a perfect desctription of what is goin on now with plasma.
[16:24] <ejay> such mess
[16:24] <lordievader> ejay: Again, watch your language. This is a family friendly channel.
[16:25] <soee> ejay: hey, you have stable Unity you can use :)
[16:26] <ejay> unity is trying to invent circle. useless.
[16:27] <soee> atm. there is a lot happening in Kubuntu packaging that may cause troubles thats why development versions aren't recomended for daily use
[16:28] <soee> alse there was this gcc transition in ubuntu
[16:28] <ejay> "stable" is as usable as alpha so yeah
[16:28] <soee> ejay: anyway you did fresh install ?
[16:30] <ejay> soee: fresh install - what for?
[16:34] <soee> ejay: i'm just asking if you are trying some fresh install or if you did upgrade. Anyway as ia said, atm. a lot is happening with packages and not all will work as expected. For example today updates want to remove kubuntu-dekstop, okular etc. :)
[16:35] <soee> i suggest to stay with on Vivid or LTS and if you decide to use Wily please be ready to have something broken
[16:36] <soee> you/we can't expect all will work all the time on developement version. tbh. it is impossible :)
[16:37] <ejay> im on wily because it is working better then 15.04. everything were fine till last update when plasmashell decided to go full retard.
[16:39] <soee> please define retard ?
[16:39] <soee> did you tried upgrade to 5.4 ?
[16:40] <nishikino-maki> KDE5.4.... i think it's will be added wayland support?
[16:41] <soee> there is no KDE 5.4, it is Plasma 5.4
[16:43] <ejay> soee: i'm in a process of looking for cause of high as hell plasmashell hunger for cpu, removing cache files did not help.
[16:43] <soee> ejay: on what Plasma version ?
[16:43] <ejay> soee: 5.3.95?
[16:44] <soee> oh ok, maybe you want to try 5.4 final if you are not afraid something might break :)
[16:44] <ejay> yeah, its 5.3.95. up to date wily alpha 1
[16:46] <ejay> soee: is it in backports?
[16:46] <soee> ejay: no, backports for Wily are empty as there is not higher version to backport anything from
[16:46] <soee> Plasma 5.4 is in staging ppa
[16:48] <ejay> soee: mkay, thanks
[16:52] <ejay> soee: is it ppa:kubuntu-ppa/staging-plasma ?
[16:53] <soee> ejay: yes
[16:53] <ejay> soee: thanks
[16:54] <soee> ejay: but one package probably wont upgrade, it is plasma-nm beaus eit requires one package that is currently in proposed ppa, so you either enable proposed ppa (than might break your system) or download this package and install manualy
[16:57] <ejay> soee: hahahahaha
[16:58] <soee> i'm not sure what is funny here
[17:00] <ejay> I was like "i will spend 30 mins with Rosseta Stone" and now I need to fix that mess.
[17:01] <ejay> it is funny IMHO
[17:18] <ejay> Ok, lets assume that I want to help to make plasma better. I want to file a bug report but have no clue where to look for clues what broke plasmashell. Symptons: plasmashell is eating 25% of cpu. Clearing cache is not a solution.
[17:19] <ejay> It started just after booting my laptop. Everything was fine till today.
[18:34] <admin-g_> hello guys i was wondering how to change the path of webstorm when i try to start it the computer gives me a alert window saying "could not launch <path to webstorm.sh>" i went to that path toonly to be reminded that i moved my webstorm to another path
[19:20] <Fritigern> admin-g_: As a workaround, you could set a symlink at the the old webstorm location. I should allow webstorm to work again until you find a more permanent solution.
[19:31] <admin-g_> Fritigern what do you mean with a syslink
[19:35] <admin-g_> Fritigern nvm i think i got what you meant what i did was i took the Webstorm folder it tried to open and placed it where it thought it was and it is working with no problems now
[19:56] <KNRO> Will 15.10 ship with Plasma 5.4 ?
[20:02] <yofel> yes
[20:14] <reborn> how it stable for kubuntu 15.04?
[20:17] <soee> what ? :)
[20:17] <reborn> How it stable for kubuntu 15.04? is good or waiting for next the new verison?
[20:18] <soee> well it should be stable, but keep in mind it uses Plasma 5
[20:18] <reborn> Yes, i am aware of that.
[20:18] <soee> and using backports ppa is recommended to get 5.3.2
[20:19] <ejay> reborn: 15.04 is not stable and ready for daily use
[20:19] <reborn> i see.
[20:20] <soee> ejay: maybe for you. it worked perfect for me since very first betas :)
[20:21] <ejay> soee: lucky you
[20:21] <soee> i'v been using it on 3 machines before jump to Wily on all of them
[20:23] <soee> ejay: i think it is impossible to make system fully work on 100% machines, so i think we can call 15.04 stable but each shoudl test it
[20:24] <reborn> nice
[20:25] <reborn> soee, what's your spec computer?
[20:26] <akasic> youll find flash issues, power management issues, power off issues, not able to unninstall some themes and then juts push to bash...
[20:27] <soee> reborn: they are various, my parents have some Core2duo + nvidia, i'm working now on Dell laptop (i7, nvidia, 8GB ram), at work i have intel cpu + nvidia
[20:28] <akasic> few plasma widgets
[20:28] <soee> akasic: power off issue shoudl be fixed with 5.3.2
[20:28] <ejay> soee: plasma in 15.04 is just broken. with wily stability is far better. that was a such stupid idea to jump into plasma with 15.04.
[20:28] <soee> lso what flash issues ?
[20:28] <akasic> uncompability when installing other window managers, the wm selector may turn black
[20:29] <akasic> etc
[20:31] <akasic> are the developers going to make something with the plasmoids? any way to make them for 5
[20:32] <reborn> I see. i am fan of AMD.
[20:32] <akasic> nah, is flash specific probably
[20:32] <reborn> and i am not interest in games.
[20:32] <akasic> one than visualizing videos, its open the audio over the finished one, in the same window, instead of going to the next page, on utube
[20:33] <soee> akasic: what plasmoids/widgets ?
[20:33] <akasic> as u see, my computer may differ from yours
[20:33] <akasic> for example, the moons of jupiter or the solar-system
[20:34] <soee> akasic: this is not related to Kubuntu but Plasma :) you should ask on #plasma if there are any plans to port them to Plasma 5
[20:35] <akasic> ok hnx
[20:35] <akasic> thnx
[20:38] <reborn> so how about new feature for 5.4?
[20:38] <akasic> i must recognize that in the last 4 weeks, it increased its stability and strange issues had decreased a lot
[20:39] <akasic> also, in the last updates, my battery was behaving very strange (not broken) and sometimes charge, and ohers not, my solution was to open the pc, and extract the built-in battery
[20:40] <akasic> after that, the pc became very smooth and fast
[20:43] <reborn> which is link for latest update?
[20:50] <akasic> for an image or what
[21:45] <reborn> i am now installed kubuntu 15.04, which link for backport to update?
[21:49] <strayPuppy> Hey guys, is there anyway to restart the desktop after is crashed?  my icons, menu bars and backgrounds are gone, but my apps are still running?
[21:50] <strayPuppy> oops forget, it just came back on.
[21:50] <strayPuppy> still would like to know what is the command, cause it has happened before.
[21:51] <bprompt> strayPuppy:   http://askubuntu.com/questions/213680/how-to-restart-kwin-when-it-is-hung
[21:51] <strayPuppy> bprompt: wow, thanks!
[21:54] <strayPuppy> that's exactly what I needed    Cheers!
[21:55] <bprompt> np