[00:43] <Bashing-om> EriC^^: Can I pick your brain on xserver requirment in HWE ?
[02:36]  * daftykins coughs
[03:01] <OerHeks> LoLz, Mate 15.10 lets Softwarecenter go .. but still offers wubi
[03:03] <Bashing-om> So now we can beat Mate users over the head with a large wubi ?
[03:12] <OerHeks> We demand an wubi install, in windows 10.
[03:13] <OerHeks> paid drivers, and remove terminal like gparted after install.
[03:13] <daftykins> WUBI :S
[04:20] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[04:22] <daftykins> o/
[04:22] <lotuspsychje> hellow daftykins :p
[04:23] <lotuspsychje> extreme thunder n lighting here : O
[04:23] <daftykins> ooh dear
[04:23] <daftykins> you best unplug for eletronic safety!
[04:24] <lotuspsychje> yeah i have protected wires
[04:25] <daftykins> o0
[04:25] <daftykins> from what? :)
[04:26] <lotuspsychje> those anti lightning power extenders
[04:27] <daftykins> 0o
[04:27] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: something like this: http://home-shopper.nl/product/veiligheid/veiligheid-thuis/408I.htm
[04:28] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: nihao :p
[04:28] <daftykins> hmm an electrician told me they're all a joke, once
[04:28] <cfhowlett> lotuspsychje, yowza^2
[04:28] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: yeah its hard to believe its gonna stop 11.000 volts
[04:29] <daftykins> :D
[04:29] <cfhowlett> WHY does this dude insist on using an obsolete/unsafe OS /rant
[04:30] <lotuspsychje> its like saying cars are 'safe' from lightning because their on tires
[04:30] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: some users will never get it right
[04:31] <daftykins> is that what typing #osdev meant?
[04:31] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: ive seen its a human habbit, to avoid/ignore updates
[04:31] <daftykins> i thought it was an idiot not knowing how to join a channel
[04:31] <daftykins> oh now i follow you
[04:31] <cfhowlett> and the same users are all "Ubuntu suks" FUD spreaders.   grrrr
[04:31] <daftykins> <-- too much beer
[04:31] <lotuspsychje> lol
[04:31]  * daftykins sips more
[04:32]  * lotuspsychje starts his day wth coffee :p
[04:32] <cfhowlett> I guess I have partial add cuz I apt full-upgrade daily and install LTS at the first point release.
[04:33] <lotuspsychje> same here, always up to date :p
[04:33] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: recently looked at usn per ubuntu version...its scary
[04:33] <lotuspsychje> !usn
[04:33] <ubot5> Please see http://www.ubuntu.com/usn for information about Ubuntu security updates.
[04:34] <daftykins> i swear we get so many users nowadays that don't even read the download page to understand LTS vs. non-LTS
[04:34] <daftykins> that's one of my earliest understandings of Ubuntu, was learning that distinction
[04:35] <lotuspsychje> yeah alot of users go for 15.04 this time
[04:35] <cfhowlett> daftykins, I think it fair to say that new users read damn near nothing.
[04:35] <daftykins> hehe, too true
[04:35] <lotuspsychje> maybe its because many users need alternatives, but dont know differences yet
[04:36] <daftykins> in fact i was discussing this with a young lady in the pub tonight, she thinks youngsters are better just because they grew up with it
[04:36] <daftykins> i suggested that they won't learn as much because most are stuck with Apple products that have plenty of limitations
[04:36] <daftykins> such as having a walled-garden ecosystem
[04:36] <lotuspsychje> apple get h4xxed daily worldwide...
[04:37] <lotuspsychje> ubuntu has also fixxed alot of security holes this year, so best to be very updated
[04:39] <daftykins> it's more that a kid playing with an apple product is limited on what they can do
[04:40] <cfhowlett> they don't have to do much as the system is pretty dumbed down to point/click.  not necessarily a bad thing for most users.
[04:40] <daftykins> that limits their learning though
[04:41] <cfhowlett> learn?  most users don't want to learn.  they just want to .. use.
[04:41] <lotuspsychje> yeah but underground their iphones get rooted hard
[04:42] <lotuspsychje> remember that security flaw where they can steal online celeb pics
[04:42] <lotuspsychje> they still can do that, thats why i never trust any cloud
[04:46] <daftykins> cloud services in general are a bit different to fruity tech products :)
[04:47] <lotuspsychje> i only trust mu usb data burried under the ground :p
[04:48] <lotuspsychje> with a big cross + RIP kittycat
[04:48] <daftykins> my cat heard that
[04:48] <daftykins> ;)
[04:49] <lotuspsychje> lol
[04:50] <daftykins> https://www.dropbox.com/s/gl2am3hjwzyrz4v/IMG_20150829_054828.jpg?dl=0
[04:54] <lotuspsychje> nice blackn white
[04:55] <cfhowlett> I get FB, twitter and most blog platforms being blocked.  I don't agree, but I get it.  Inexplicably the Great Firewall also blocks Dropbox!  grrrrrrrrrrrr
[04:56] <daftykins> d'aww
[04:56] <lotuspsychje> social media is a growing nest for h4ckers
[04:56] <daftykins> she's a lovely monochrome cat ;)
[04:59] <cfhowlett> is he serious?!!
[05:03] <daftykins> utter idiot
[05:05] <cfhowlett> obstinate to be sure.  I had to /ignore ... just too frustrating to explain again
[07:46] <lordievader> Good morning.
[18:24] <Bashing-om> Even though I have not had my quota of coffee; strapping myself in for this ride anyway .
[18:33] <OerHeks> Double-espresso for Bashing-om
[19:08] <Bashing-om> ^^ Wired and strapped now !
[20:39] <OerHeks> oh, i did a wrong ignore gambl0re
[20:39]  * OerHeks goes print out the irc comands
[20:42] <Bashing-om> Yep - gambl0re - Nothing worthwhile there .
[23:19] <altoidnerd> does anyone know of a good 'google search from the command line' application