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| gremble | Good morning | 10:43 |
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| smile|away | good afternoon :) | 11:03 |
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| melodie | hello! | 13:23 |
| melodie | what's up? | 13:23 |
| melodie | anyone has seen Kilos? | 13:24 |
| gremble | Hey melodie | 13:26 |
| melodie | hello gremble | 13:26 |
| gremble | Haven't seeh him around, but I've been afk for most of the week as well | 13:26 |
| melodie | and afayk what's up here? | 13:26 |
| gremble | No idea. | 13:27 |
| gremble | :P | 13:27 |
| melodie | omg! | 13:27 |
| melodie | what are we going to become? :D | 13:27 |
| gremble | :P | 13:28 |
| melodie | does someone else here have news? superfly are you around? | 13:28 |
| superfly | melodie: DebConf16 is in Cape Town | 13:30 |
| melodie | superfly wao wao! are you a Debian user, and is Kilos there? | 13:31 |
| superfly | melodie: I am a Debian user and contributor, I have a package in the Debian (and Ubuntu) repositories | 13:31 |
| melodie | and have you read that Debian might get a ppa place in the future? | 13:31 |
| melodie | I think you told me about your package once, a kind which I don't use I think | 13:32 |
| superfly | No, I didn't. Sounds good, though I never found it difficult to find a sponsor and get my package in. | 13:32 |
| melodie | you are lucky! | 13:38 |
| melodie | I'd like to know someone who has packaging skills for the Bento Openbox project and for a few programs one particularly, which is now orphan and is very good to have | 13:39 |
| melodie | it's xsettingsd, it can replace gnome-settings-daemon and has had a patch from Unit193, so that it complies fully with the freedesktop.org standards, and his patch was added upstream | 13:40 |
| melodie | so if you know people who can add themselves to the list of Debian packagers, and are willing to contribute with light pieces of software, I'd be interested | 13:40 |
| melodie | to know one ore more | 13:41 |
| superfly | melodie: if you can do the packaging, all you need is a mentor. | 13:41 |
| superfly | er, sponsor | 13:41 |
| melodie | superfly I delay the moment when I'll start doing that, because there are tons of details to fix before | 13:42 |
| melodie | and I can't become an official Debian developer, I don't have developing skills. At best I might do PPA packages, following the Debian and Ubunt guidelines | 13:43 |
| melodie | and probably with heavy help from the Debian and Ubuntu mentors/devs | 13:43 |
| melodie | you should believe me: I would like to have more skills, but I have to face the reality | 13:44 |
| melodie | because I tried before :) | 13:44 |
| superfly | Debian developers are not developers, they're just packagers | 13:47 |
| superfly | Some of them do some development, but that's not necessarily specifically related to what they do with Debian | 13:47 |
| MaNI | there is some skill overlap sometimes :P | 13:50 |
| melodie | hi MaNI | 13:58 |
| melodie | it seems to me that kill overlap is often there really and quite useful | 13:59 |
| MaNI | for more complex packages it would probably be difficult to deal with problems without at least a decent knowledge of how programming works I would think | 14:01 |
| melodie | just saying, if someone here would want to adopt Ubuntu Builder and continue developping it, it would be lovely | 14:01 |
| MaNI | (especially c++ projects) | 14:01 |
| MaNI | for smaller stuff its maybe not as important | 14:01 |
| melodie | this is Ubuntu Builder: http://linuxvillage.org/en/2015/07/ubuntu-builder-original-tutorial/ | 14:02 |
| melodie | the UI is great, it works wonderful, allows making spins quite fast with mostly knowledge of command lines and of the file system tree | 14:02 |
| melodie | and it's written in a language that not many people like as it seems. Gambas | 14:03 |
| melodie | I have ported the whole pdf from his repos to this page, to make it easier to show | 14:05 |
| melodie | hoping someone can be interested in the future (not too far in the future :D ) | 14:06 |
| Kilos | hi superfly | 15:52 |
| Kilos | greetings inetpro melodie gremble nlsthzn smile and others | 15:53 |
| melodie | hello Kilos ! | 15:55 |
| melodie | you are mostly the one I wanted to see here! :D | 15:55 |
| Kilos | lol | 15:55 |
| Kilos | i thought so | 15:55 |
| Kilos | ive been out of it for some weeks now | 15:56 |
| Kilos | how are you girl? | 15:56 |
| melodie | Kilos I am very excited to tell you I am now working on Xubuntu in Ubuntu Builder : to build the next Malinux, distro built on Ubuntu by a great guy who now lacks time and needs a hand | 15:56 |
| melodie | hopefully I will succeed it making it right, the way he had done with the 12.04 version | 15:56 |
| Kilos | wonderful | 15:57 |
| Kilos | now you gonna be even more busy | 15:57 |
| melodie | and also I am thinking of sending the specific files to gitlab, in the Bento group, as "Malinux" project, so others could reuse it | 15:57 |
| melodie | not really more busy, if I can get through this one, then upload then people can test it | 15:57 |
| melodie | and they can provide feedback too perhaps? | 15:58 |
| melodie | at least some of the guys here who have a somehow decent connection? | 15:58 |
| melodie | I still have some details to fix, but I'm now almost ready to build the first test iso | 15:59 |
| Kilos | wlee melodie give the links here and on the africa channel and lets hope | 15:59 |
| Kilos | whew | 15:59 |
| melodie | this is a teaser, I'm working on it right now and it's not yet online. | 16:00 |
| melodie | once built, I'll test in virtualbox | 16:00 |
| melodie | and depending on the result I might put it online, or not, as a alpha | 16:01 |
| melodie | and if that is ok as an alpha, I'll ask the author of the spin if I can upload the files to gitlab :) | 16:01 |
| Kilos | nice | 16:02 |
| Kilos | good luck | 16:02 |
| melodie | and now, do you have a LUG from Mali? | 16:02 |
| Kilos | but im sure youll get it right | 16:02 |
| melodie | I'm never sure until it's done. | 16:03 |
| Kilos | oh lemme thing | 16:03 |
| Kilos | yes | 16:03 |
| melodie | yes? | 16:03 |
| Kilos | wait a bit | 16:03 |
| Kilos | maybe | 16:03 |
| Kilos | only lug i have is linuxaccra@yahoogroups.com | 16:04 |
| Kilos | i had to use a yahoo account to get to join them i think | 16:04 |
| Kilos | also there are some guys in zimbabwe that might be interested | 16:05 |
| melodie | yes of course | 16:05 |
| melodie | all Africa can be interested | 16:05 |
| Kilos | Maaz google linuxaccra | 16:05 |
| Maaz | Kilos: "Zorin" http://forum.chinainternshipplacements.com/ :: "Download - AITI-KACE" http://www.aiti-kace.com.gh/images/1380SFD%20Activities.pdf :: "OpenGhana" http://openghana.org/ :: "2013/Ghana/Accra/Laug - Software Freedom Day Wiki" http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/2013/Ghana/Accra/Laug :: "List of Africa FOSS Communities | Free Software and Open Source ..." | 16:05 |
| Maaz | http://www.fossfa.net/node/25 :: "Download (4MB) - LSE Theses Online - London School of .… | 16:05 |
| melodie | and also see how wonderful it is to use Ubuntu Builder, with a pair of additional tweaks | 16:06 |
| Kilos | oh they are ghana i tyhink | 16:06 |
| melodie | Kilos some links for you and them: | 16:06 |
| melodie | http://www.biloutoguna.org/ | 16:06 |
| nlsthzn | o/ | 16:06 |
| melodie | this says "humanitarian France/Mali non for profit association" | 16:06 |
| melodie | hi nlsthzn | 16:07 |
| Kilos | melodie drop them here and mail me as well please with the info then i can fprward it to the africa list | 16:07 |
| Kilos | hi nlsthzn | 16:07 |
| * nlsthzn wrestling sleepy baby | 16:07 | |
| nlsthzn | with teeth | 16:08 |
| Kilos | or melodie why dont you join the africa group and mailing list | 16:08 |
| Kilos | lolol | 16:08 |
| melodie | Kilos because I can't be in more places | 16:08 |
| Kilos | https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-africa | 16:08 |
| Kilos | yes man just join the group and mailing list | 16:08 |
| melodie | http://linuxvillage.org/en/2015/07/ubuntu-builder-original-tutorial/ | 16:08 |
| Kilos | it is one mail a month | 16:08 |
| melodie | maybe on day in the future, if I consider moving to an African country, or visiting ;-) | 16:09 |
| melodie | for the time being too many things cooking | 16:09 |
| Kilos | lol | 16:09 |
| melodie | Kilos this is what is cooking: | 16:09 |
| * nlsthzn got curry cooking | 16:10 | |
| melodie | http://bentovillage.me http://bentovillage.me/todo http://bentovillage.me/documentation | 16:10 |
| Kilos | lol | 16:10 |
| melodie | and I haven't yet linked them together nor decided what font I will finally keep for all :D | 16:10 |
| Kilos | nlsthzn you like messing around | 16:10 |
| melodie | and the doc to write | 16:10 |
| melodie | and the things in the todo to be done (hopefully some will step in to help?) | 16:11 |
| nlsthzn | :/ I can't get my desktop speakers to mute when I plug my headphones into the front headphone jack :/ | 16:11 |
| Kilos | have a look at bento if you want to play with a light ubuntu spin | 16:11 |
| melodie | nlsthzn and are the headphones working then? | 16:11 |
| * nlsthzn is currently on mint again... but will think of bento when I hop again | 16:12 | |
| nlsthzn | melodie: yup | 16:12 |
| melodie | Kilos for the Bento Openbox edition the people need to go to linuxvillage.org and same with /en/ | 16:12 |
| Kilos | oh melodie you havent met nlsthzn he is a za guy working in UAE | 16:12 |
| melodie | nlsthzn have you tried the rear connectors? | 16:12 |
| * nlsthzn really enjoyed messing with Trinity DE a few weeks ago :) | 16:12 | |
| melodie | nlsthzn ok! pleased to meet you! | 16:12 |
| Kilos | nlsthzn and she is in france | 16:13 |
| nlsthzn | melodie: rear connectors all in use for 5.1 surround sound | 16:13 |
| nlsthzn | melodie: nice to meet you :D | 16:13 |
| melodie | South France close to Toulouse, the 4th tech city in France | 16:13 |
| melodie | nlsthzn is it Linux Mint you are using right now? | 16:13 |
| nlsthzn | if memory served the headphones used to work a few distro versions ago... | 16:14 |
| nlsthzn | melodie: yup 17.1 so basically ubu 14.04 | 16:14 |
| nlsthzn | 17.2 sorry | 16:14 |
| melodie | no no | 16:14 |
| melodie | not basically | 16:14 |
| Kilos | lolol | 16:14 |
| melodie | the guy has done strange things tech speaking in there | 16:14 |
| nlsthzn | well the issue is cross distro and even on debian 8 | 16:14 |
| melodie | as Kilos says, what would you think about trying Bento Openbox? | 16:14 |
| melodie | let me show you | 16:15 |
| melodie | http://linuxvillage.org/en/2015/07/bento-openbox-trusty-soon-final/ | 16:15 |
| nlsthzn | I don't like the idea when I install an application I have to go and create a menu entry for it in openbox, or has that changed? | 16:15 |
| melodie | it's final now but I didn't write the presentation yet | 16:15 |
| melodie | you don't have to, there is openbox-menu installed and configured | 16:16 |
| melodie | this is an Openbox for all | 16:16 |
| nlsthzn | it won't solve my issue :p | 16:16 |
| melodie | nlsthzn it's explained here: http://bentovillage.me/ | 16:16 |
| melodie | nlsthzn you don't know that | 16:16 |
| nlsthzn | this is true | 16:16 |
| melodie | I have paid attention to what packages I included for the sound | 16:16 |
| nlsthzn | so it won't work in 14.04, mint 17.2 or debian 8 but in bento it will because...? | 16:17 |
| melodie | if it's not a matter of packages it might be a matter of hardware, or specific setup, then if Bento Openbox does not help, I know someone on another chan who will be able to help you with the config | 16:17 |
| nlsthzn | :p | 16:17 |
| nlsthzn | I will consider it when the distro hop bug bites... thanks for the enthusiasm :) | 16:18 |
| melodie | I don't know if it will work or not, I just say there are more chances, because I added things that they don't add in the other editions | 16:18 |
| melodie | such as non free firmware, or alsa-oss and more... | 16:18 |
| melodie | well you can grab it any time for a whirl as live cd or in virtualbox | 16:19 |
| melodie | http://linuxvillage.org/en/downloads/ | 16:19 |
| melodie | the places are here | 16:19 |
| nlsthzn | thanks melodie :) | 16:19 |
| melodie | no problem | 16:19 |
| smile | greetings Kilos ;) | 16:23 |
| melodie | hi smile | 16:23 |
| nlsthzn | all well uncle Kilos ? | 16:23 |
| Kilos | bit out of it for a while now nlsthzn got a b/p of 95/61 so kinda weak and tired all the time | 16:24 |
| Kilos | thats why i have been so slack here | 16:24 |
| melodie | Kilos have you started to use the harpagophytum we talked about some months ago? | 16:25 |
| Kilos | nope melodie been to docs for all kinds of thests and thinks and going in for a hernia op on the 22nd | 16:25 |
| melodie | I see | 16:26 |
| nlsthzn | sorry to hear uncle Kilos ... any thing to be done to pick up the pressure? | 16:26 |
| melodie | what I wish you to take good care of yourself | 16:26 |
| Kilos | im lifting it slowly nlsthzn with lots of salt | 16:26 |
| Kilos | well not lots | 16:27 |
| Kilos | 1/4 teaspoon with water twice a day | 16:27 |
| nlsthzn | ok, hope it helps ! | 16:27 |
| Kilos | it will ty | 16:27 |
| Kilos | if not dsocs must sort that as well on the 22nd | 16:28 |
| Kilos | docs | 16:28 |
| nlsthzn | he better | 16:28 |
| melodie | so this is about low blood pressure? most people I know who have trouble with that are too high | 16:28 |
| nlsthzn | >:( | 16:28 |
| Kilos | lol | 16:28 |
| Kilos | melodie mine is from meds for prostate | 16:28 |
| melodie | ok | 16:29 |
| nlsthzn | sucks | 16:29 |
| Kilos | i get to sleep lots though | 16:29 |
| melodie | I wish you to find a good med, one that gives plants and appropriate diet | 16:29 |
| melodie | for the whole body and well being | 16:29 |
| nlsthzn | +1 | 16:31 |
| Kilos | well melodie after the op i want to try not have anything to do with man made meds again | 16:31 |
| Kilos | there is no alternative to the knife yet | 16:32 |
| melodie | there might be but considering the condition of your's, I don't know how that could fit in | 16:34 |
| melodie | I have tried and heard about things such as specific diets, but I'm not a naturopathe so I don't know when it can apply and when it can't | 16:34 |
| Kilos | they got to cut, only way to join torn stomach linings | 16:34 |
| melodie | if you had the prostate issue solve, you would not need these meds anymore than that would solve the low blood pressure issue | 16:35 |
| Kilos | yes well that at least seems to be improving | 16:36 |
| Kilos | once cured ill be off the meds | 16:36 |
| Kilos | then everything will be cool again | 16:37 |
| nlsthzn | hope it happens soon :) | 16:39 |
| Kilos | yeah me too man, miss sitting here | 16:39 |
| nlsthzn | you are missed, channel is dead | 16:39 |
| Kilos | sorry, but ill be back dont worry | 16:40 |
| nlsthzn | no worries uncle Kilos ... rest and get better... | 16:42 |
| melodie | yes, take good care | 16:43 |
| nlsthzn | this here isn't important, you are | 16:43 |
| Kilos | irc is very important to me | 16:44 |
| nlsthzn | yes but your health > IRC | 16:46 |
| nlsthzn | so when you are better than IRC please | 16:46 |
| nlsthzn | *then | 16:46 |
| nlsthzn | I am sure all your hard work won't be undone before you are here to continue | 16:47 |
| * nlsthzn goes for dinner... | 16:50 | |
| nlsthzn | get better uncle Kilos ! that | 16:50 |
| nlsthzn | that | 16:50 |
| nlsthzn | that's an order | 16:50 |
| nlsthzn | stupid enter button to close to the ' button | 16:50 |
| Kilos | lol | 16:53 |
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| Kilos | night all. sleep tight | 17:37 |
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| smile | bye :) | 18:13 |
| gremble | tewdles | 18:15 |
| gremble | Hey kulelu88 | 18:15 |
| kulelu88 | yo gremble | 18:15 |
| gremble | How are you doing? | 18:15 |
| superfly | oooo http://sourcefoundry.org/hack/ | 18:22 |
| kulelu88 | all good and you? gremble | 18:38 |
| kulelu88 | superfly: do you work with pandas or matplotlib? | 18:40 |
| superfly | kulelu88: I haven't worked with either. I know of matplotlib and I've heard of pandas (I think) | 18:41 |
| kulelu88 | aah okay thanks superfly | 19:02 |
| kulelu88 | what exactly is that typeface thing? | 19:02 |
| Cryterion | inetpro - are you around? | 19:20 |
| Cryterion | and hi everyone | 19:21 |
| Cryterion | maaz: it's late | 19:23 |
| Maaz | Cryterion: Huh? | 19:23 |
| Cryterion | Maaz: you're a bot! | 19:24 |
| Maaz | Cryterion: Sorry... | 19:24 |
| gremble | I am well thanks kulelu88 | 19:24 |
| Cryterion | heya gremble | 19:24 |
| gremble | Hey Cryterion | 19:25 |
| gremble | The whole font thing is a bit weird to me | 19:25 |
| gremble | I'm not even sure what kind of font I am currently using, but it works perfectly for me | 19:26 |
| kulelu88 | Maaz needs some NLP | 19:32 |
| Maaz | kulelu88: What? | 19:32 |
| kulelu88 | gremble: so its a thing about fonts? | 19:32 |
| superfly | kulelu88: sorry, was caught up in minetest. it's a font. | 19:42 |
| kulelu88 | eeek I think I'm still on the local minetest server :D | 19:43 |
| superfly | kulelu88: thatgraemeguy's server? | 19:50 |
| kulelu88 | yeah, same one | 19:50 |
| kulelu88 | you guys built mansions there | 19:51 |
| gremble | Who here is good with css? | 19:55 |
| kulelu88 | gremble: I may be able to assist | 19:56 |
| gremble | I have a table that I don't know the size of before hand, however, I want the cells to fit the content. width: auto almost works, but I want the cells to have the size of the largest one | 19:58 |
| kulelu88 | that sounds more like a need for javascript combined with css | 19:58 |
| gremble | That will make me sad | 19:59 |
| kulelu88 | gremble: screenshot? | 20:00 |
| gremble | http://grump.xyz/2015/08/24/Propositional-Logic/ I'm working on this post and the tables I have there work for what are in them now. I changed some glyphs to mathjax because on my phone the biconditional glyp is bright red | 20:01 |
| gremble | Now it is slightly longer than what fits comfortably | 20:02 |
| kulelu88 | gremble: space them out with spaces I guess | 20:06 |
| gremble | I switched from the glyphs to complete latex, now it fits. Thanks for looking anyway kulelu88 | 20:07 |
| kulelu88 | np gremble | 20:08 |
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