=== smile is now known as Guest45569 === smile_ is now known as smile === smile is now known as smile|away [10:43] Good morning [11:03] good afternoon :) === smile|away is now known as smile|brb === smile|brb is now known as smile [13:23] hello! [13:23] what's up? [13:24] anyone has seen Kilos? [13:26] Hey melodie [13:26] hello gremble [13:26] Haven't seeh him around, but I've been afk for most of the week as well [13:26] and afayk what's up here? [13:27] No idea. [13:27] :P [13:27] omg! [13:27] what are we going to become? :D [13:28] :P [13:28] does someone else here have news? superfly are you around? [13:30] melodie: DebConf16 is in Cape Town [13:31] superfly wao wao! are you a Debian user, and is Kilos there? [13:31] melodie: I am a Debian user and contributor, I have a package in the Debian (and Ubuntu) repositories [13:31] and have you read that Debian might get a ppa place in the future? [13:32] I think you told me about your package once, a kind which I don't use I think [13:32] No, I didn't. Sounds good, though I never found it difficult to find a sponsor and get my package in. [13:38] you are lucky! [13:39] I'd like to know someone who has packaging skills for the Bento Openbox project and for a few programs one particularly, which is now orphan and is very good to have [13:40] it's xsettingsd, it can replace gnome-settings-daemon and has had a patch from Unit193, so that it complies fully with the freedesktop.org standards, and his patch was added upstream [13:40] so if you know people who can add themselves to the list of Debian packagers, and are willing to contribute with light pieces of software, I'd be interested [13:41] to know one ore more [13:41] melodie: if you can do the packaging, all you need is a mentor. [13:41] er, sponsor [13:42] superfly I delay the moment when I'll start doing that, because there are tons of details to fix before [13:43] and I can't become an official Debian developer, I don't have developing skills. At best I might do PPA packages, following the Debian and Ubunt guidelines [13:43] and probably with heavy help from the Debian and Ubuntu mentors/devs [13:44] you should believe me: I would like to have more skills, but I have to face the reality [13:44] because I tried before :) [13:47] Debian developers are not developers, they're just packagers [13:47] Some of them do some development, but that's not necessarily specifically related to what they do with Debian [13:50] there is some skill overlap sometimes :P [13:58] hi MaNI [13:59] it seems to me that kill overlap is often there really and quite useful [14:01] for more complex packages it would probably be difficult to deal with problems without at least a decent knowledge of how programming works I would think [14:01] just saying, if someone here would want to adopt Ubuntu Builder and continue developping it, it would be lovely [14:01] (especially c++ projects) [14:01] for smaller stuff its maybe not as important [14:02] this is Ubuntu Builder: http://linuxvillage.org/en/2015/07/ubuntu-builder-original-tutorial/ [14:02] the UI is great, it works wonderful, allows making spins quite fast with mostly knowledge of command lines and of the file system tree [14:03] and it's written in a language that not many people like as it seems. Gambas [14:05] I have ported the whole pdf from his repos to this page, to make it easier to show [14:06] hoping someone can be interested in the future (not too far in the future :D ) [15:52] hi superfly [15:53] greetings inetpro melodie gremble nlsthzn smile and others [15:55] hello Kilos ! [15:55] you are mostly the one I wanted to see here! :D [15:55] lol [15:55] i thought so [15:56] ive been out of it for some weeks now [15:56] how are you girl? [15:56] Kilos I am very excited to tell you I am now working on Xubuntu in Ubuntu Builder : to build the next Malinux, distro built on Ubuntu by a great guy who now lacks time and needs a hand [15:56] hopefully I will succeed it making it right, the way he had done with the 12.04 version [15:57] wonderful [15:57] now you gonna be even more busy [15:57] and also I am thinking of sending the specific files to gitlab, in the Bento group, as "Malinux" project, so others could reuse it [15:57] not really more busy, if I can get through this one, then upload then people can test it [15:58] and they can provide feedback too perhaps? [15:58] at least some of the guys here who have a somehow decent connection? [15:59] I still have some details to fix, but I'm now almost ready to build the first test iso [15:59] wlee melodie give the links here and on the africa channel and lets hope [15:59] whew [16:00] this is a teaser, I'm working on it right now and it's not yet online. [16:00] once built, I'll test in virtualbox [16:01] and depending on the result I might put it online, or not, as a alpha [16:01] and if that is ok as an alpha, I'll ask the author of the spin if I can upload the files to gitlab :) [16:02] nice [16:02] good luck [16:02] and now, do you have a LUG from Mali? [16:02] but im sure youll get it right [16:03] I'm never sure until it's done. [16:03] oh lemme thing [16:03] yes [16:03] yes? [16:03] wait a bit [16:03] maybe [16:04] only lug i have is linuxaccra@yahoogroups.com [16:04] i had to use a yahoo account to get to join them i think [16:05] also there are some guys in zimbabwe that might be interested [16:05] yes of course [16:05] all Africa can be interested [16:05] Maaz google linuxaccra [16:05] Kilos: "Zorin" http://forum.chinainternshipplacements.com/ :: "Download - AITI-KACE" http://www.aiti-kace.com.gh/images/1380SFD%20Activities.pdf :: "OpenGhana" http://openghana.org/ :: "2013/Ghana/Accra/Laug - Software Freedom Day Wiki" http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/2013/Ghana/Accra/Laug :: "List of Africa FOSS Communities | Free Software and Open Source ..." [16:05] http://www.fossfa.net/node/25 :: "Download (4MB) - LSE Theses Online - London School of .… [16:06] and also see how wonderful it is to use Ubuntu Builder, with a pair of additional tweaks [16:06] oh they are ghana i tyhink [16:06] Kilos some links for you and them: [16:06] http://www.biloutoguna.org/ [16:06] o/ [16:06] this says "humanitarian France/Mali non for profit association" [16:07] hi nlsthzn [16:07] melodie drop them here and mail me as well please with the info then i can fprward it to the africa list [16:07] hi nlsthzn [16:07] * nlsthzn wrestling sleepy baby [16:08] with teeth [16:08] or melodie why dont you join the africa group and mailing list [16:08] lolol [16:08] Kilos because I can't be in more places [16:08] https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-africa [16:08] yes man just join the group and mailing list [16:08] http://linuxvillage.org/en/2015/07/ubuntu-builder-original-tutorial/ [16:08] it is one mail a month [16:09] maybe on day in the future, if I consider moving to an African country, or visiting ;-) [16:09] for the time being too many things cooking [16:09] lol [16:09] Kilos this is what is cooking: [16:10] * nlsthzn got curry cooking [16:10] http://bentovillage.me http://bentovillage.me/todo http://bentovillage.me/documentation [16:10] lol [16:10] and I haven't yet linked them together nor decided what font I will finally keep for all :D [16:10] nlsthzn you like messing around [16:10] and the doc to write [16:11] and the things in the todo to be done (hopefully some will step in to help?) [16:11] :/ I can't get my desktop speakers to mute when I plug my headphones into the front headphone jack :/ [16:11] have a look at bento if you want to play with a light ubuntu spin [16:11] nlsthzn and are the headphones working then? [16:12] * nlsthzn is currently on mint again... but will think of bento when I hop again [16:12] melodie: yup [16:12] Kilos for the Bento Openbox edition the people need to go to linuxvillage.org and same with /en/ [16:12] oh melodie you havent met nlsthzn he is a za guy working in UAE [16:12] nlsthzn have you tried the rear connectors? [16:12] * nlsthzn really enjoyed messing with Trinity DE a few weeks ago :) [16:12] nlsthzn ok! pleased to meet you! [16:13] nlsthzn and she is in france [16:13] melodie: rear connectors all in use for 5.1 surround sound [16:13] melodie: nice to meet you :D [16:13] South France close to Toulouse, the 4th tech city in France [16:13] nlsthzn is it Linux Mint you are using right now? [16:14] if memory served the headphones used to work a few distro versions ago... [16:14] melodie: yup 17.1 so basically ubu 14.04 [16:14] 17.2 sorry [16:14] no no [16:14] not basically [16:14] lolol [16:14] the guy has done strange things tech speaking in there [16:14] well the issue is cross distro and even on debian 8 [16:14] as Kilos says, what would you think about trying Bento Openbox? [16:15] let me show you [16:15] http://linuxvillage.org/en/2015/07/bento-openbox-trusty-soon-final/ [16:15] I don't like the idea when I install an application I have to go and create a menu entry for it in openbox, or has that changed? [16:15] it's final now but I didn't write the presentation yet [16:16] you don't have to, there is openbox-menu installed and configured [16:16] this is an Openbox for all [16:16] it won't solve my issue :p [16:16] nlsthzn it's explained here: http://bentovillage.me/ [16:16] nlsthzn you don't know that [16:16] this is true [16:16] I have paid attention to what packages I included for the sound [16:17] so it won't work in 14.04, mint 17.2 or debian 8 but in bento it will because...? [16:17] if it's not a matter of packages it might be a matter of hardware, or specific setup, then if Bento Openbox does not help, I know someone on another chan who will be able to help you with the config [16:17] :p [16:18] I will consider it when the distro hop bug bites... thanks for the enthusiasm :) [16:18] I don't know if it will work or not, I just say there are more chances, because I added things that they don't add in the other editions [16:18] such as non free firmware, or alsa-oss and more... [16:19] well you can grab it any time for a whirl as live cd or in virtualbox [16:19] http://linuxvillage.org/en/downloads/ [16:19] the places are here [16:19] thanks melodie :) [16:19] no problem [16:23] greetings Kilos ;) [16:23] hi smile [16:23] all well uncle Kilos ? [16:24] bit out of it for a while now nlsthzn got a b/p of 95/61 so kinda weak and tired all the time [16:24] thats why i have been so slack here [16:25] Kilos have you started to use the harpagophytum we talked about some months ago? [16:25] nope melodie been to docs for all kinds of thests and thinks and going in for a hernia op on the 22nd [16:26] I see [16:26] sorry to hear uncle Kilos ... any thing to be done to pick up the pressure? [16:26] what I wish you to take good care of yourself [16:26] im lifting it slowly nlsthzn with lots of salt [16:27] well not lots [16:27] 1/4 teaspoon with water twice a day [16:27] ok, hope it helps ! [16:27] it will ty [16:28] if not dsocs must sort that as well on the 22nd [16:28] docs [16:28] he better [16:28] so this is about low blood pressure? most people I know who have trouble with that are too high [16:28] >:( [16:28] lol [16:28] melodie mine is from meds for prostate [16:29] ok [16:29] sucks [16:29] i get to sleep lots though [16:29] I wish you to find a good med, one that gives plants and appropriate diet [16:29] for the whole body and well being [16:31] +1 [16:31] well melodie after the op i want to try not have anything to do with man made meds again [16:32] there is no alternative to the knife yet [16:34] there might be but considering the condition of your's, I don't know how that could fit in [16:34] I have tried and heard about things such as specific diets, but I'm not a naturopathe so I don't know when it can apply and when it can't [16:34] they got to cut, only way to join torn stomach linings [16:35] if you had the prostate issue solve, you would not need these meds anymore than that would solve the low blood pressure issue [16:36] yes well that at least seems to be improving [16:36] once cured ill be off the meds [16:37] then everything will be cool again [16:39] hope it happens soon :) [16:39] yeah me too man, miss sitting here [16:39] you are missed, channel is dead [16:40] sorry, but ill be back dont worry [16:42] no worries uncle Kilos ... rest and get better... [16:43] yes, take good care [16:43] this here isn't important, you are [16:44] irc is very important to me [16:46] yes but your health > IRC [16:46] so when you are better than IRC please [16:46] *then [16:47] I am sure all your hard work won't be undone before you are here to continue [16:50] * nlsthzn goes for dinner... [16:50] get better uncle Kilos ! that [16:50] that [16:50] that's an order [16:50] stupid enter button to close to the ' button [16:53] lol === smile is now known as smile|away [17:37] night all. sleep tight === smile|away is now known as smile [18:13] bye :) [18:15] tewdles [18:15] Hey kulelu88 [18:15] yo gremble [18:15] How are you doing? [18:22] oooo http://sourcefoundry.org/hack/ [18:38] all good and you? gremble [18:40] superfly: do you work with pandas or matplotlib? [18:41] kulelu88: I haven't worked with either. I know of matplotlib and I've heard of pandas (I think) [19:02] aah okay thanks superfly [19:02] what exactly is that typeface thing? [19:20] inetpro - are you around? [19:21] and hi everyone [19:23] maaz: it's late [19:23] Cryterion: Huh? [19:24] Maaz: you're a bot! [19:24] Cryterion: Sorry... [19:24] I am well thanks kulelu88 [19:24] heya gremble [19:25] Hey Cryterion [19:25] The whole font thing is a bit weird to me [19:26] I'm not even sure what kind of font I am currently using, but it works perfectly for me [19:32] Maaz needs some NLP [19:32] kulelu88: What? [19:32] gremble: so its a thing about fonts? [19:42] kulelu88: sorry, was caught up in minetest. it's a font. [19:43] eeek I think I'm still on the local minetest server :D [19:50] kulelu88: thatgraemeguy's server? [19:50] yeah, same one [19:51] you guys built mansions there [19:55] Who here is good with css? [19:56] gremble: I may be able to assist [19:58] I have a table that I don't know the size of before hand, however, I want the cells to fit the content. width: auto almost works, but I want the cells to have the size of the largest one [19:58] that sounds more like a need for javascript combined with css [19:59] That will make me sad [20:00] gremble: screenshot? [20:01] http://grump.xyz/2015/08/24/Propositional-Logic/ I'm working on this post and the tables I have there work for what are in them now. I changed some glyphs to mathjax because on my phone the biconditional glyp is bright red [20:02] Now it is slightly longer than what fits comfortably [20:06] gremble: space them out with spaces I guess [20:07] I switched from the glyphs to complete latex, now it fits. Thanks for looking anyway kulelu88 [20:08] np gremble