[05:44] Good morning. [06:01] is anyone trying to get marble/rocs autopkgtest:s fixed? http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html#marble http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html#rocs [06:02] asking because of qtdeclarative in the -proposed pocket, but yes there are other KDE packages too stuck in -proposed [07:54] This is the most awesome bug report I've ever seen: https://plus.google.com/u/0/+KristerHallergard/posts/iver7XzhRVV === ghostcube_ is now known as ghostcube [08:50] what does one do if one doesnt not get a review? [08:56] sitter: if you don't get a review on a patch you can hassle more people or commit anyway [08:56] sitter: http://animations.fg-a.com/tools/pitchfork.jpg tried this? :p [08:57] Riddell: completely new package... [08:57] sitter: hassle more, upload anyway. what are you asking about? [08:59] Riddell: see devel list [09:00] oh e-mail. I'm behind on that [09:00] 162 to go [09:17] Hello Friends I am back from vacation :-) [09:22] o/ [09:23] hi sick_rimmit! [09:23] Where did you go? [09:27] Riddell: have you gotten to the kdepimlibs mail yet :( [09:28] Hi folks [09:29] lordievader: I have been to South of England, it was lovely [09:29] :-) [09:33] Been away for 3 weeks, What News ? [09:35] sick_rimmit: Nice, nice. [09:35] Wily beta 1 is released. [09:37] Riddell: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-widget-quickaccess/+bug/1490464 [09:37] Launchpad bug 1490464 in plasma-widget-quickaccess (Ubuntu) "remove plasma-widget-quickaccess SRC & BIN" [Undecided,Confirmed] [09:38] also it appears to me that kde-baseapps needs actual transition work [09:38] also didn't we want a dolphin kpart? [09:38] (package that is) [09:39] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde-baseapps makes a dolphin4 package [09:39] which I think is just the kpart [09:41] also has dolphin4 bin [09:41] lucky for dolphin 4 users [09:41] has no desktop fiel though [09:41] weird thing [09:42] not sure why it is not transiting then [09:42] ah [09:42] rdeps need rebuild [09:43] abi1->abi2 [09:43] Riddell: I am sure we'll forget but dolphin-plugins-bazaar will nuking when we remove dolphin4 [09:45] http://paste.ubuntu.com/12237150/ [09:46] surely the folderview package in baseapps could be killed [09:47] sitter: so does kdenetwork-thingy until my student merges his branch [09:47] list fo rdeps that need rebuidls http://paste.ubuntu.com/12237157/ [09:47] Riddell: what was the ABI break in libkonq? [09:51] sitter: hmm was there one? [09:51] you bumped the ABI mangling from 1 to 2 [09:51] saying there was a change [09:51] they added new symbols for versionplugin stuff [09:52] Riddell: I don't see that upstream [09:52] version was ripped out and then reverted [09:53] sitter: hmm that may well have been why I bumped it then at the time it was ripped out [09:53] http://paste.ubuntu.com/12237183/ [09:53] Riddell: so what now? === sebas_ is now known as sebas [09:57] sitter: I guess we can either go with it or revert, either is fine, what's easiest? [09:57] revert probably [09:57] otherwise we need to rebuild all rdeps for no good reason [09:58] Riddell: kblog versions are screwed up ... https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kblog/4:15.07.90-0ubuntu2 vs ci https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ci/+archive/ubuntu/unstable/+build/7842519 [09:59] * Riddell adds to todo [10:00] Riddell: http://yofel.net/kubuntu/transitions/html/auto-marble.html does libkgeomap need killing? [10:04] sitter: yes it does for now until a kf5 version appears [10:09] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libkgeomap/+bug/1490489 [10:09] Launchpad bug 1490489 in libkgeomap (Ubuntu) "remove libkgeomap SRC & BIN from wily" [Undecided,Confirmed] [10:10] yofel: I absolutely adore the transition tracker :* [10:11] Riddell: so what about kde4pimlibs :/ [10:12] sitter: someone needs to get to it, it's on my todo list but not for today === ghostcube_ is now known as ghostcube [10:26] sitter: baloo in kdepimlibs is actually correct, even if the version looks totally wrong at first glance: [10:26] baloo | 4:4.14.3-0ubuntu5 | wily/universe | source [10:26] baloo | 4:5.13.0-0ubuntu2 | wily/universe | amd64, arm64, armhf, i386, powerpc, ppc64el [10:27] those two are different things [10:28] yofel: kgpg is the thing I had a problem with I think [10:29] kgpg [build logs] (4:14.12.3-0ubuntu1) [10:29] considers 14.12 but we have 15.08 in archive [10:30] meh, then I remembered the wrong thing [10:32] *headscratch* [10:32] that version isn't even in the package lists, where the hell does it get that from [10:45] *sigh* [10:45] sitter: fixed, I forgot to delte a cache file in the cronjob [10:45] *delete [10:53] yofel: thanks \o/ === ghostcube_ is now known as ghostcube [11:47] Riddell: are you doing kde-baseapps already? [11:47] sitter: not yet, I can do now if you like [11:48] Riddell: I'd prefer if you could review kde4pimlibs really [11:48] I can do baseapps [11:48] sitter: oh where is that? [11:48] * Riddell spots pkg-kde/krap/kde4pimlibs [11:49] Riddell: read mail on kubuntu-devel [11:49] has all the details [11:56] muon (Plasma/5.4) v5.4.0-1-gf4009a0 * Aleix Pol: discover/qml (2 files) [11:56] Make sure the install button has a size [11:56] Otherwise sometimes it's just empty and we can't see it. [11:56] http://commits.kde.org/muon/f4009a08992d440b4aac60514e201e33e392fe47 [11:57] sitter, your kdecoration binNMUs were built too early on armhf. fixed last night [11:57] where is the description of the kde4pimlibs mess? [11:58] doko: thanks. kdepimlibs https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-devel/2015-August/009875.html [11:58] Riddell is hopefully reviewing the old-new source right now [11:59] I am [12:01] ideally with kde4pimlibs we need rebuilds of 3 sources and then the transition should be green [12:01] kget [12:01] kmymoney [12:01] kopete [12:02] sitter: renamed packages need conflicts/breaks on old kdepimlibs (kdelibs4 version) packages no? [12:02] Riddell: which ones are those? [12:02] sitter: kdepimlibs-kio-plugins and kde4pimlibs-dev ? [12:03] should conflict the most recent kdelibs4 versions of the old names [12:03] I think [12:03] Package: kdepimlibs5-dev [12:03] there is no such thing in kf5 [12:03] Package: kde4pimlibs-kio-plugins [12:03] co-installable as it should be [12:04] oh wait [12:04] Riddell: kdelibs4? [12:04] why would kde4pimlibs have a conflict with kde4libs all of a sudden? [12:05] sitter: no, kde4pimlibs-kio-plugins conflicts kdepimlibs-kio-plugins << 4:4.14.10-1ubuntu1 and kde4pimlibs-dbg conflicts kdepimlibs-dbg << 4:4.14.10-1ubuntu1 no? [12:05] aaaaaah [12:06] yes [12:06] Riddell: are you changing that? [12:06] sitter: yeah [12:06] << 4:4.14.10 mind you [12:06] but as ever I get a bit confused on whether it should be conflicts/replaces/breaks [12:07] eh, << 4:15.08.0 [12:07] no wait [12:07] too many open files -.- [12:07] I just upgraded to wily ... now I can't install kmail anymore [12:07] I need kmail [12:07] wip [12:07] eta? [12:07] Riddell: << 4:4.14.10 [12:07] sebas: today hopefully [12:08] what blocks kmail? [12:08] okay, can you let me know once I can try something? [12:08] Riddell: the broken transition [12:08] right but which part of it? [12:08] Riddell: also always Breaks&Replaces with a version. there is next to no case where conflicts is appropriate [12:08] Riddell: all of it [12:08] half the pimstack is held hostage in proposed [12:08] these pim people are a bunch of terrorists [12:12] ScottK: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-release-upgrader/+bug/1488843 for sru love [12:12] Launchpad bug 1488843 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu Vivid) "SRU: upgrader kde frontend fails to start" [Critical,Fix committed] [12:17] sitter: lots of optional symbols marked missing, do you want to keep those or can we scrap them? [12:17] Riddell: oh. pasty? I think I rebuilt and had no missing symbols [12:18] Uploading kde-baseapps_15.08.0-0ubuntu2.dsc: done. [12:18] sitter: http://embra.edinburghlinux.co.uk/~jr/tmp/kde4pimlibs_4.14.10-1ubuntu1_amd64.build [12:18] this being kubuntu_wily_archive branch [12:20] Riddell: ah ignore they are gcc5 optional [12:20] right [12:20] sitter: shall I remove the kdepim-runtime shlibs injection? [12:21] the kabc stuff looks weird though [12:22] oh they are all plugins. I wonder how maxy strips those from the symbol dumps [12:22] Riddell: oh yes. does that happen in the symbols file? [12:23] sitter: yes, e.g. libkblog4 has at the top libkblog.so.4 libkblog4 #MINVER#,, kdepim-runtime [12:23] I so hate this [12:23] Riddell: please remove [12:27] mh [12:27] marble port seems somewhat meh [12:27] marble_plugin_path = /usr/lib/kde4/plugins/marble/$(marble_soversion) [12:29] ah [12:29] no one told me to CI marble [12:29] guess that explains it xD [12:29] patches were never ported :/ [12:32] Hiyas all [12:40] sitter: kde4pimlibs compiles and installs with dpkg, apt gets confused and an apt -f install doesn't help but I guess that'll get solved with rebuilds [12:40] sitter: I'll upload [12:42] cheers [12:42] yofel: I think you broke marble plugin version path mangling [12:42] not that I am entirely confident why exactly we meddle with that anyway [12:47] yes I did, back when I was trying to build the qt4 edition [12:47] I guess Riddell didn't fix it [12:47] what what? [12:47] IIRC it does some QML path mangling for the ABI [12:48] Riddell: the weird libmarblewidget soversion detection in rules [12:48] that one I don't see plus that would probably not work [12:48] seeing as you cannot simply add random versioning to qml [12:48] which renders the versioning weirdly moot as the marble-plugins package contains both the plugins and the unversioned qml thingy [12:49] so it doesn't magically become co-installable anyway [12:49] oh and the package name has no version either [12:50] * sitter goes digging for history [12:50] it's a debian thing [12:51] bzr says you came up with it :P [12:51] * sitter shakes fist because of spread out history [12:51] Uploading marble_15.08.0-0ubuntu4.dsc: done. [12:54] problem is the git history is derived from an import of our packaging [12:55] hm [12:55] * Update packaging for split tarball [12:55] what was marble split from? kdeedu? [12:55] yes [12:56] ah yes that has ancient history [12:58] http://paste.ubuntu.com/12238034/ [12:58] + * Install marble plugins into SOVERSION'ed subdirectory so binary [12:58] + incompatible libmarblewidget can't load them. [12:59] I am not sure the present code in rules actually makes any sense WRT the original intent here [12:59] most likely not, esp. not if my harcoded kde4 version is still there [13:00] it's noop right now as it is isn't passed to cmake [13:00] uhhh I get it [13:01] so this really only has the motivation of preventing incompatible libs from loading the plugins [13:01] which IMO should be upstreamed ... [13:01] but that's easy enough to port for now [13:02] sitter: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde4pimlibs building! [13:02] \o/ [13:04] Weird issue with a fresh install of Wily. I used debootstrap to create an initial bootable bare-bones console, then booted it and added lubuntu-desktop and then kubuntu-desktop. All seems fine except for 1 puzzling feature. At the first (and subsequent) log-ins using Plasma, the desktop opens an empty document in abiword. This doesn't happen in the LXDE or Lubuntu sessions. I can find no autostart entries to cause this. My only idea is abiword is [13:04] the default handler for some document that is supposed to be displayed but doesn't exist. Unexpectedly, the abiword Parent PID is 1. The process cmdline has no arguments on it. [13:05] TJ_on_Wily: systemd gets even weirder :) [13:06] yofel: btw did you start on backports of plasma or apps? [13:06] TJ_on_Wily: plasma's session stuff is in .config/session/* check there [13:06] Riddell, don't get me started on that subject! [13:07] sitter: ENOTIME [13:07] Riddell, I've grep-ed all system locations and user home too, for 'abiword' and 'autostart' and read copious documentation on the XDG facilities, but can find no indication of where the process comes from, or why it only shows up for Plasma [13:07] yofel: kk [13:12] systemd-cryptsetup is broken: it does not support keyscripts, breaking unlock with external key devices, and bluez5 has broken PIN-code entry (so BT keyboard won't connect). [13:17] Riddell: kde4pimlibs needs a released changelog pushed in git I think [13:17] still says unreleased here [13:18] sitter: pushed! [13:18] merci [13:20] Riddell: could you take a look @ okular updates ? [13:21] soee: what about it? [13:22] Riddell: okular : Depends: libokularcore6 (= 4:15.04.2-0ubuntu3) but 4:15.08.0-0ubuntu1 is to be installed [13:22] when trying to upgrade this lib: LANGUAGE=C sudo apt-get upgrade libokularcore6 [13:23] soee: apt-cache policy okular ? [13:24] Riddell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12238191/ [13:25] soee: apt install okular ? [13:27] Riddell: looks good http://paste.ubuntu.com/12238206/ though when trying apt-get full-upgrade it wants to remoev okular and kubuntu-desktop [13:29] soee: hmm probably needs a rebuild for new libkexiv2-11 [13:29] or maybe I screwed up and upload the old libkexiv2-11 [13:30] yes that'll be it [13:31] I'll fix kexiv2 then [13:31] :) [13:31] thank you [13:31] thanks for testing soee :) [13:37] Riddell: btw. probably someone mentioned you that 5.4 is tested and works fone on Wily [13:37] soee: lovely, I'll get that uploaded after lunch === ghostcube_ is now known as ghostcube [13:38] Riddell: just check plasma-nm, as it depends on some package that still might be in proposed [13:38] i had do donwload from proposed and isntall manually: libkf5networkmanagerqt6_5.13.0-0ubuntu2_amd64.deb [13:43] heh, plsama 5.4 is an anticlimactic, i see absolutely no difference after 296 packages were installed [13:45] even systems settings as root still won't increase the fonts in the titles and toolbars ...they're still unreadable on a large monitor [13:46] hopeless :/ [13:47] lol [13:48] Riddell: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde4pimlibs/4:4.14.10-1ubuntu1 all in binary new [13:51] Riddell: kopete still stuck on 15.07.90 btw [13:51] rdeps linking gpgme++ uploaded [13:51] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kopete/4:15.08.0-0ubuntu2 [13:51] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kmymoney/4.6.6-1.1ubuntu1 [13:52] will go in depwait [13:58] Hello sexy people [13:59] The new site is live [13:59] I'll announce in social media in an hour, when I get home. [13:59] Commuting right now [14:13] * Riddell spots http://www.kubuntu.org/ [14:13] awooga! [14:13] well done ovidiu-florin! that was a long time coming! [14:19] ovidiu-florin: so how do I add news items to it? if I log in I can only see Profile and Dashboard [14:26] sitter: kde4pimlibs built! shall I throw up all the rdepends for rebuilding? (for gcc transition and removing kdepim-runtime) [14:29] muon (Plasma/5.4) v5.4.0-2-g90e2abe * Carlo Vanini: muon/MainWindow.cpp [14:29] Correct signal to catch closing configuration dialog. [14:29] BUG: 352061 [14:29] http://commits.kde.org/muon/90e2abeddba422fb958fc9624ae2600450d5ba13 [14:29] Error: Launchpad bug 352061 could not be found [14:29] hello pursuivant, what are you doing in here? [14:32] Riddell: Hangout with those interested tonight? [14:32] ovidiu-florin: hmm I'm probably out tonight, edinburgh's big fireworks [14:32] I'm home in less than an hour [14:33] that works but it might just be me [14:33] Riddell: can I post the announcement on the site? [14:33] ovidiu-florin: sure [14:34] yum feature tour looks so good [14:35] https://kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-site-revamped/ [14:35] Riddell: I uploaded gcc transiton [14:35] Riddell: -runtime I'd wait for now [14:35] Can someone please give me access to the Kubuntu Facebook and Twitter? [14:36] So I can post on Kubuntu's behalf [14:38] ovidiu-florin: hang on.. [14:38] Riddell: if we can get the stack out of proposed without immediate rebuilds that's good, if not we shoudl selectively beat the broken things with a bat until they migrate [14:38] once it is out of proposed we can do the -runtime drop [14:39] mass retried kopete and kmymoney now to get it out of depwait [14:44] sitter: ok I'll upload plasma 5.4 === ghostcube_ is now known as ghostcube [15:14] sitter: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kmymoney/4.6.6-1.1ubuntu1 shouldn't have a need for an ubuntu1 version number if it's a no change rebuild? [15:14] Riddell: I literally do not know [15:16] sitter, s/ubuntu1/build1/ [15:17] ovidiu-florin: is it useful to have the Register/Login links [15:17] ovidiu-florin: on the website [15:18] * Riddell looks at kde-baseapps tests [15:19] muon (Plasma/5.4) v5.4.0-3-gead3de1 * Aleix Pol: (5 files in 3 dirs) [15:19] Use kdesu instead of pkexec [15:19] pkexec doesn't cut it on GUI applications, kdesu seems to work. [15:19] On kubuntu it should be using sudo instead of su. [15:19] http://commits.kde.org/muon/ead3de1c9808523e65d43d276941187b12609764 [15:25] doko: noted [15:25] is the kopete ftbfs expected? [15:26] no [15:26] oh we are on 15.08 now [15:26] doko: FTBFS from publisher delay I'd say [15:27] libkleo4 is a binary of kde4pimlibs [15:27] retrying [15:29] why can't you just wait ... [15:30] I did wait [15:30] sitter: dch -R is for no-change rebuilds btw. [15:31] twas green [15:34] sitter, usually you can't give it back until it shows in an apt-get update on your local machine [15:45] guy i think you should ship qtdeclarative5-xmllistmodel-plugin and libqt5qml-graphicaleffects in wily [15:46] because without these plasma5 plasmoids from kde-look don't work [15:46] *without these packages [15:48] shadeslayer: login yes [15:48] I am pretty sure the latter is pulled in by multiple packages [15:48] register, I've removed it 100 times already [15:49] on every update, it get's back in there [15:51] soee: ping [16:19] Uploading kopete_15.08.0-0ubuntu3.dsc: done. [16:19] should fix FTBFS [16:24] Riddell: you did not pause and you did not NOCI [16:29] sitter: I did pause [16:29] what says I didn't? [16:31] [16:45] Starting build #80 for job mgmt_pause_integration (previous build: ABORTED) [16:31] [17:00] Project mgmt_pause_integration build #80: ABORTED in 14 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/mgmt_pause_integration/80/ [16:31] | [16:31] v [16:31] http://kci.pangea.pub/ [16:42] anyone can share info on the konflict packages ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/12239333/ [16:54] kdepim is going a bit haywire [17:06] because of the transition ? [17:06] so now is it safe to do upgrade instead of dist-upgrade ? === drawkward_away is now known as drawkward [17:38] ovidiu-florin: ping [18:33] any progress on 15.08 PIM transition? [18:50] Riddell, again, dropped changes for cantor ... [18:50] really annyoing [19:07] o/ [19:16] hello [19:18] hiho ari-tczew [19:30] * BluesKaj waves at everyone [19:31] ;) [19:39] nice extension for webbrowser: https://www.eff.org/privacybadger [19:50] o/ [20:12] doko: hmm sorry, let me look [20:13] Riddell: ovidiu-florin did I miss anything in that video hangout? [20:52] ding ding, looks like Plasma 5.4 is landing in Wily archive ;) [20:54] and another update: community ppa with nvidia drivers has already http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NVIDIA-355.11-Linux [21:05] ahoneybun: not really [21:05] you know how to post on WordPress [21:06] yea [21:06] I added a few things on trello ovidiu-florin [21:07] omggggg [21:07] telegram account [21:07] into KDE [21:34] soee: I'm scared to reboot lol [21:39] and I'm back [21:41] ;D [21:41] atm there is only problem with okular [21:41] I did see the network issue [21:41] and -f did fix it it seems [21:42] though I'm on a wired connection so [21:42] so they put telegram in there with no way to config it... [21:47] Riddell: any idea about that ^? [21:54] ovidiu-florin: [21:54] http://www.itworld.com/article/2978278/cloud-computing/owncloud-announces-bug-bounty.html [21:54] * ahoneybun thinks owncloud uses KDE ;) [21:56] http://news.softpedia.com/news/linux-kernel-4-2-officially-released-merge-window-for-linux-kernel-4-3-now-open-490444.shtml [22:11] and Ubuntu is using 4.2 already [22:11] or they merged it anyway [22:16] WE HAVE 4.1.0 [22:16] sorry for caps [22:17] for... now :) [22:18] oct 8 is the kernel freeze [22:18] so there is time [22:18] * ahoneybun has a Ubuntu release party in the works [22:21] I'm glad it's a ways into the future [22:21] summer has seemed jam-packed, with no chance to breathe in between events [22:26] * ahoneybun only had akademy [22:28] it's already more relaxed now that my husband is home [22:28] except for preparing for and holding the welcome home party [22:29] but that's now done except for the vacuuming [22:29] :-) [22:29] off to do that bit..... [22:29] lets support linux gaming :) bught this https://www.humblebundle.com/store/p/expeditions_conquistador_storefront :) [22:30] mmm exploring games [22:31] not my favorite games [22:32] * ahoneybun just bought Shadow of Mordor since it was ported to Linux [22:32] online ? [22:32] or you can play localy ? [22:32] local [22:33] oh my 49,99€ [22:33] I got it for 15 $ [22:33] lol [22:33] ah this is some package http://store.steampowered.com/app/241930 [22:34] I even got GOTY with DLC [22:34] whre did you fnd if for 15$? [22:35] india soething [22:36] only for 48 hours or something [22:37] http://www.bundlestars.com/ ? [22:37] soee: https://www.indiegala.com/ [22:38] soee: best bet is the steam winter sald [22:39] yup