[06:56] <dholbach> good morning
[07:06] <philipballew> morning dholbach
[07:08] <dpm> morning all
[07:10] <dholbach> hey philipballew
[07:15]  * philipballew runes up to dholbach and gives him a big awkward hug
[07:15]  * dholbach hugs you all :)
[07:19] <dholbach> salut davidcalle
[07:20] <davidcalle> dholbach, hey, how was your week?
[07:21] <dholbach> great, very relaxed
[07:36] <davidcalle> dholbach, nice :)
[07:38] <dholbach> how was yours?
[07:39] <davidcalle> dholbach, busy, Tristan is learning to walk :)
[07:40] <dholbach> nice :-D
[07:40] <dholbach> so much to discover :-)
[07:58] <davidcalle> Yeah, it's a lot of fun
[11:33] <balloons> Good morning world
[12:21] <davidcalle> mhall119, do you know if we have a way to tweak the juju stack and deploy without so much caching?
[12:22] <mhall119> davidcalle: not sure I follow, caching isn't something juju does
[12:22] <davidcalle> mhall119, caching services*
[12:23] <mhall119> you mean in the apache nodes?
[12:23] <davidcalle> mhall119, eg. can we change the number of devportal-app intances form 2 to 1 without it exploding in our face?
[12:23] <mhall119> oh, sure
[12:23] <mhall119> that won't change caching though
[12:23] <davidcalle> mhall119, oh
[12:26] <davidcalle> mhall119, ok, so what do you think we should do to always have the same result when we reload the page?
[12:27] <mhall119> ctrl+F5 should do it
[12:27] <mhall119> davidcalle: are you doing local dev run manage.py runserver? or using a deployment?
[12:28] <davidcalle> mhall119, http://developer.staging.ubuntu.com , reload a few times and see if the top menu is consistent
[12:29] <jose> morning all o/
[12:30] <mhall119> davidcalle: yup, always see the same thing: Test1 | Snappy | Test2 | Michael
[12:30] <mhall119> morning jose
[12:30] <mhall119> jose: phones made it back to me, thanks
[12:30] <mhall119> did they work well at TLF?
[12:32] <davidcalle> mhall119, that's insane, I've switched to a different computer that has never been on the site and I get different menus between reloads
[12:35] <davidcalle> dpm, dholbach, balloons, could you check as well? ^
[12:35] <mhall119> davidcalle: have you tried logging out and back in again?
[12:36] <mhall119> well, switching computers would do the same...
[12:36] <balloons> hmm.. is it a caching thing?
[12:36] <mhall119> balloons: that's what we're trying to determine
[12:36] <balloons> mhall119, yep, each reload is different
[12:36] <balloons> IS hosted, likely needs a bit to propagate
[12:37] <mhall119> what's different when it changes?
[12:37] <balloons> no random, but test1 and test2
[12:37] <davidcalle> mhall119, menus, top-level and breadcrumbs on eg. http://developer.staging.ubuntu.com/en/snappy/guides/current/
[12:39] <mhall119> still nothing changing
[12:40] <davidcalle> mhall119, what do you see in breadcrumbs: "fixed-guide1" and "Tutorials" or "The hashes.yaml file" and "Security policy" ?
[12:40] <mhall119> davidcalle: dholbach: is the snappy impoter not ready for production? Will it break anything if the code is deployed now?
[12:41] <mhall119> The hashes.yaml and Security
[12:42] <davidcalle> mhall119, works great locally, pages get all over the place on staging, parent pages are wrongly identified for some reason. It won't break anything if it's deployed, if we don't add branches via the admin page.
[12:43] <davidcalle> I promise. 0:-)
[12:44] <mhall119> heh, ok
[12:44] <mhall119> once we get mojo working, we should consider branching trunk into a new "production" or "release" branch that we keep stable
[12:45] <davidcalle> mhall119, https://code.launchpad.net/~developer-ubuntu-com-dev/developer-ubuntu-com/production
[12:46] <davidcalle> mhall119, it's roughly in sync with current prod, a bit forward, but nothing dramatic
[12:49] <davidcalle> (I believe prod is a r119)
[12:49] <davidcalle> at*
[12:50] <mhall119> davidcalle: right, cool, so we'll just update that once we go to prod with the current trunk
[13:14] <davidcalle> mhall119, dholbach, https://code.launchpad.net/~davidc3/developer-ubuntu-com/oslo-deps/+merge/269637
[13:19] <dholbach> mhall119, yeah - what davidcalle said, it shouldn't break anything
[13:20] <dholbach> davidcalle, reviewed
[13:20] <davidcalle> dholbach, thx :)
[13:23] <mhall119> dholbach: davidcalle: ok, rev 131 is what I've currently given to webops to try deploying to a production environment using the mojo spec
[13:23] <mhall119> fingers crossed
[13:24] <davidcalle> mmm, it doesn't have the fixed oslo deps and will fail
[13:24] <davidcalle> mhall119,
[13:24] <jose> mhall119: woot woot! they did awesome :)
[13:25] <jose> and the phone stands make them look really classy
[13:25] <jose> it's an amazing idea
[13:25] <davidcalle> mhall119, you probably want to give them r133
[13:25] <davidcalle> jose, any pics?
[13:26] <jose> davidcalle: I think I posted a couple on G+, lemme check
[13:26] <jose> otherwise I'll post them right ahead
[13:27] <jose> https://plus.google.com/+JoséAntonioRey/posts/MzBSUS9nNoF
[13:27] <jose> davidcalle: ^
[13:29] <mhall119> jose: yeah,I was really happy with the phone stands
[13:30] <jose> also, candy works amazingly well
[13:30] <mhall119> jose: oh, good idea, what kind did you have?
[13:31] <davidcalle> jose, looks great!
[13:31] <mhall119> davidcalle: odd, if I used 131 in staging it didn't have your olso dep changes, but it still worked
[13:31] <jose> I went to sams club and got a bag of jolly ranchers and then a bag that had all kinds of fun sized mars chocolate
[13:31] <jose> next time we need to get orange candy
[13:32] <mhall119> which was the more popular, the jolly ranchers or chocolates?
[13:32] <dholbach> davidcalle, do lp:~developer-ubuntu-com-dev/developer-ubuntu-com/dependencies and lp:~developer-ubuntu-com-dev/developer-ubuntu-com/production need to be updated too?
[13:32] <popey> dpm: do you know if we have any people (other than the translators list) which we can request chinese translations? Music app needs some. https://translations.launchpad.net/music-app
[13:32] <davidcalle> mhall119, I... what? Ok...
[13:33] <dholbach> mhall119, can we take a look at https://code.launchpad.net/~developer-ubuntu-com-dev/developer-ubuntu-com/1470715/+merge/268471 as a team once all the other MPs are deployed and happy?
[13:33] <davidcalle> dholbach, the first one will be updated automatically when a tarball is made with trunk at r133+
[13:33] <dholbach> davidcalle, ah, cool - even better :)
[13:34] <davidcalle> dholbach, the second one... let's wait for it to deploy :p
[13:34] <dholbach> ah, so it's updated once it's landed? it's not the branch IS use to deploy?
[13:35] <mhall119> dholbach: after others are deployed? sure
[13:35] <dholbach> cool
[13:35] <dholbach> we'll just need to test it a lot
[13:37] <mhall119> yeah, speaking of testing....
[13:37] <mhall119> we should write some test cases for this site
[13:39] <dholbach> do you have a list of things in mind you'd like to see tested?
[13:41] <davidcalle> dholbach, deployments :D
[13:42] <mhall119> dholbach: all of the code we've written for it
[13:42] <mhall119> api docs, snappy importer, webapp-generator
[13:44] <dpm> popey, sometimes we've made such requests over the FB page, but ultimately, the Ubuntu Chinese translators need to approve the translations
[13:45] <popey> ok
[14:13] <jose> mhall119: I'd say chocolates were more popular since we ran out faster, but we had a big jolly ranchers bag
[14:24] <mhall119> jose: thanks for the feedback, will make a note to have some for FOSSETCON
[14:25] <jose> woot woot
[14:25] <jose> mhall119: btw, just submitted the request
[14:25] <mhall119> \o/
[15:21] <jcastro> jose: looking for me?
[15:21] <jose> jcastro: wat? wat? no, I was looking for niedbalski...
[15:22] <Pendulum> jose: I'm glad you had more than just chocolate. I know quite a few people who are allergic to chocolate & you'd be surprised how many places/groups only offer things with chocolate when they do things like have candy at a booth.
[15:23] <jcastro> jose: oh, antonio just basically mailed both jorge's
[15:23] <jose> lol
[15:23] <jcastro> I'm like weird, why wouldn't jose just pm me
[15:23] <jose> Pendulum: definitely :) I was thinking on that! also, long time no see
[15:23] <jose> jcastro: also, fix you steam, I got like 20x 'jorge is now playing xcom!'
[15:24] <jcastro> that is not me, that's steam
[15:24] <jcastro> every time you login in right?
[15:24] <jose> no, randomly :P
[15:24] <jose> now I want the game, I blame you
[15:24] <jcastro> oh, well, I'm not playing xcom so there's that
[15:24] <jcastro> it is a really fun game
[15:25] <jose> maybe I should finish playing the 130 games I have first...
[15:25]  * jose hides behind the desk
[15:27] <jcastro> get borderlands2 next time it is on sale
[15:27] <jose> I was going to
[15:27] <jcastro> we will play that in DC
[15:28] <jose> cool
[15:28] <jose> gimme free copiez
[15:29] <jcastro> maybe next time it goes on sale!
[15:30] <jcastro> jose: did they hook you up wrt. to travel to DC?
[15:30] <jose> jcastro: yes, ticket is booked, just gotta go to the airport and take the flight
[15:30] <Pendulum> jose: I've just returned after about 6 months of not being on IRC. I haven't been able to use my laptop much & I don't like using IRC on my phone. But when I make it on, I do keep an eye out for conversations I can contribute to.
[15:31] <jose> Pendulum: well, I hope I can see you again soon!
[15:32] <jose> time to go to class, laters all!
[15:33] <dholbach> davidcalle, popey, dpm: team call?
[15:33] <dpm> dholbach, on our way, wrapping up our call with balloons
[15:33] <dholbach> oops, forgot balloons :)
[15:33] <dholbach> thanks guys!
[15:34] <popey> dholbach: not today - am on holiday this week (and uk public holiday today)
[15:34] <dholbach> popey, enjoy your time off!
[15:35] <Pendulum> jose: feel free to PM me to chat & I'll respond when I'm next on the laptop. I'm making it on most days now & leaving IRC up even when I'm afk.
[15:37] <davidcalle> dholbach, omw
[15:45] <jose> Pendulum: thanks! :)
[16:13] <mhall119> Pendulum: good to see you back in here :)
[16:22] <dholbach> all right my friends - I call it a day - see you all tomorrow!