=== MaNL is now known as MaNI | ||
mazal | Mornings | 06:31 |
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superfly | good evening | 06:33 |
thatgraemeguy | good aftermornoon | 07:01 |
mazal | Wow thatgraemeguy | 07:02 |
mazal | Morning :) | 07:02 |
barrydk | Mornings | 07:03 |
Kilos | morning all | 07:23 |
mazal | More oom | 07:24 |
Kilos | hi mazal barrydk and superfly | 07:25 |
Kilos | oh and inetpro | 07:25 |
thatgraemeguy | 'lo | 07:26 |
Kilos | ohi thatgraemeguy | 07:28 |
thatgraemeguy | http://mybroadband.co.za/news/broadband/136884-telkom-integrated-data-wallet-launched-use-your-adsl-on-mobile.html | 09:19 |
thatgraemeguy | I wonder what the catch is? | 09:19 |
thatgraemeguy | i.e. what stops me from just buying an ADSL capped account and using it on mobile, which would be cheaper | 09:19 |
MaNI | it does explicitly say their *capped* data in the description | 09:27 |
MaNI | unless thats just bad journalism | 09:27 |
thatgraemeguy | yes of course | 09:27 |
thatgraemeguy | but even so a 20GB capped adsl account is WAY cheaper than 20GB of regular mobile data | 09:28 |
MaNI | ahh sorry, thought you said uncapped account | 09:28 |
thatgraemeguy | so there must be a catch of some sort | 09:28 |
MaNI | hopefully nothing, it would be nice to finally stop being ripped off for mobile data, but there must be something | 09:28 |
thatgraemeguy | like limited to 512kbps, or whatnot | 09:28 |
thatgraemeguy | keen to see the Ts & Cs eventually | 09:28 |
MaNI | I suppose if it pushes lots of mobiles users who don't have ADSL to get ADSL it can be worth their while | 09:34 |
MaNI | fixed monthly line rentals and whatnot instead of sporadic as needed data purchases | 09:35 |
thatgraemeguy | I supposed they would validate whether you had an adsl line | 09:35 |
thatgraemeguy | and if they're clever they only let the mobile work if you have an active adsl connection at the time | 09:36 |
thatgraemeguy | otherwise i just buy a nice 20GB adsl account and use it on my telkom sim, all while still using ISP X on my adsl router | 09:36 |
MaNI | yeah | 09:37 |
MaNI | probably tied to the line rental is my guess | 09:38 |
MaNI | pushes more people to return to renting lines from them and helps them make money that way (and win back the market) | 09:38 |
MaNI | from there they can slowly increase data prices or upsell people in other ways on the ADSL | 09:38 |
thatgraemeguy | yeah but there has to be some way to prevent someone with an already-existing line from just scoring cheap mobile data | 09:39 |
thatgraemeguy | i've had adsl for 10 years, they aren't winning a new account with me, so what stops me from getting 10GB of mobile for R99 using this? mmmm | 09:40 |
thatgraemeguy | guess i'll just wait and see | 09:40 |
MaNI | maybe | 09:40 |
MaNI | or maybe they just don't care about the losses from existing ADSL users who also use lots of mobile | 09:40 |
MaNI | I've no t been following closely but we have crazy statistics where most of our 'broadband' is now mobile and stuff | 09:41 |
MaNI | The ADSL network is pretty much their only asset they have that their competitors don't - if they let trends continue it will become irrelevant and everything will be mobile - so growing the ADSL userbase might be worth it | 09:42 |
thatgraemeguy | growing ADSL is a temp measure at best, it's all about fibre nowadays | 09:43 |
MaNI | I'm an example - I don't have an ADSL line I just connect via wireless to the office and use the office internet - with this I would possibly be forced to at least consider going back to renting an ADSL line | 09:43 |
MaNI | well ADSL/fibre - growing the fixed line non wireless userbase | 09:43 |
thatgraemeguy | maybe trying to boost adsl numbers because its essentially free money at this stage, then plough the free money into fibre | 09:43 |
MaNI | but yeah will be interesting to see the final t&c's | 09:44 |
MaNI | maybe there will be a 'for up to 100Mb a day' limitation or something to keep it sane | 09:44 |
thatgraemeguy | I wanted to use wireless to the office too but it isn't physically practical for me right now sadly | 09:44 |
thatgraemeguy | so spolied with 100M fibre here and 2M adsl at home :'( | 09:45 |
thatgraemeguy | I know, #firstworldproblems | 09:45 |
MaNI | my office internet is sadly just ADSL no fancy fibre stuff, but still better than having my own | 09:45 |
MaNI | plus I swore to never deal directly with telkom ever again | 09:46 |
MaNI | after they spent like 2 years harassing me for money that I didn't owe them :p (plus all the other torment I've had dealing with them over the years) | 09:47 |
MaNI | if I couldn't connect to the office I'd probably just be on a wisp | 09:47 |
magespawn | good morning | 10:30 |
pieter2627 | afternoon all | 10:32 |
inetpro | good mornings | 12:02 |
inetpro | Kilos: eh, and hi there as well | 12:02 |
inetpro | Cryterion: you still be looking for me? | 12:03 |
thatgraemeguy | [11:01:56] <Cryterion> someone please tell inetpro I'm sick of waiting for him, I can't take it anymore, I'm going to throw myself off a cliff | 12:10 |
magespawn | okay then | 12:10 |
inetpro | yikes! | 12:11 |
thatgraemeguy | too much? :) | 12:11 |
* inetpro going to the edge of the cliff to go look for him | 12:12 | |
inetpro | eish! | 12:13 |
kulelu88 | RIP Cryterion | 12:31 |
mazal | Bye everyone , have a nice afternoon. God bless | 12:39 |
thatgraemeguy | by.... oh | 12:40 |
Kilos | hi inetpro | 13:34 |
inetpro | Kilos: ehlo | 13:34 |
Kilos | lol at cr | 13:34 |
* inetpro failed to find him | 13:35 | |
inetpro | and now he's lost for ever? | 13:36 |
Kilos | lol | 13:36 |
* pieter2627 rofl | 15:04 | |
magespawn | chat later home time | 16:05 |
nlsthzn | hi uncle Kilos ... how you feeling today? | 18:24 |
Kilos | ok ty nlsthzn , still sleepy but good ty | 18:24 |
Kilos | and you? | 18:24 |
nlsthzn | fine thanks... also very sleepy, baby bear doesn't seem to need sleep >.< - and starting work again tomorrow :'( | 18:25 |
Kilos | lolol | 18:25 |
nlsthzn | well I am also just about off... have a good evening all :) | 18:26 |
Kilos | night nlsthzn sleep tight | 18:27 |
Kilos | :) | 18:27 |
Kilos | brb | 18:40 |
Kilos | so clever peeps what do you all suggest as our alternative to flash that will work in any browser | 18:44 |
Kilos | im not a chrome or firefox fan | 18:45 |
inetpro | Kilos: the alternative is no flash | 18:45 |
Kilos | oh my | 18:46 |
inetpro | it's either flash or it is no flash | 18:46 |
inetpro | flash must die! | 18:46 |
inetpro | good evening btw | 18:47 |
Kilos | but adobe isnt supporting linux anymore | 18:47 |
Kilos | hi my pro | 18:47 |
Kilos | i saw gnash and light something | 18:47 |
Kilos | also saw html5 | 18:48 |
Kilos | do none of them work? | 18:48 |
Kilos | hi Cryterion | 18:50 |
Cryterion | Hi | 18:50 |
Kilos | inetpro ^^ | 18:50 |
inetpro | Flash is not only unnecessary with today's streaming technology, but can open users up to major security vulnerabilities | 18:50 |
inetpro | hello Cryterion | 18:51 |
Cryterion | see ThatGraemeGuy been up to mischief | 18:51 |
Kilos | oh my | 18:51 |
Kilos | lolol | 18:51 |
* inetpro happy to see he found his way up the cliffs again | 18:51 | |
Cryterion | <thatgraemeguy> [11:01:56] <Cryterion> someone please tell inetpro I'm sick of waiting for him, I can't take it anymore, I'm going to throw myself off a cliff | 18:51 |
Cryterion | lol | 18:51 |
Cryterion | anyway, sorry been out most of the day | 18:51 |
Kilos | haha | 18:51 |
inetpro | no problemos | 18:51 |
inetpro | Cryterion: I net you didn't say that ^^ ? | 18:52 |
inetpro | I bet* | 18:52 |
Kilos | lol | 18:52 |
Cryterion | inetpro and Kilos, got an update to that xls offgrid thing you should look at | 18:52 |
Cryterion | did some corrections and added a few extra calculations into it | 18:52 |
Kilos | oh yes i remember something about that | 18:53 |
inetpro | xls offgrid thing? hmm... | 18:53 |
* inetpro forgot about loadshedding already | 18:53 | |
inetpro | and all the alternative power ideas | 18:53 |
Cryterion | think I emailed it to you last time, if you interested, yeah loadshedding seems scarce atm | 18:54 |
inetpro | been way too busy with other stuffs | 18:54 |
inetpro | Cryterion: I remember | 18:54 |
Kilos | yes please Cryterion im interested | 18:54 |
Cryterion | I'm still looking into it anyway, savings at the end, costly now, but pays off at the end | 18:54 |
Cryterion | hold on will try send in a moment | 18:55 |
Kilos | no rush lad | 18:55 |
inetpro | Cryterion: just email me the updates as well when you have a chance | 18:55 |
Kilos | ohi superfly hows you and family? | 18:55 |
Cryterion | ok, will do for both you and Kilos | 18:56 |
superfly | Kilos: we're OK thanks | 18:56 |
Kilos | ty | 18:56 |
inetpro | Kilos: Death of Flash inches closer as Mozilla blocks Firefox plugin http://mashable.com/2015/07/14/mozilla-disables-flash/ | 18:58 |
Cryterion | They already implemented by default | 18:59 |
inetpro | and then: Google's Chrome to start auto-pausing Flash ads on Sept. 1 http://mashable.com/2015/08/28/google-chrome-autopause-flash/ | 18:59 |
Cryterion | I don't use google or their browser | 19:00 |
inetpro | Cryterion: I know | 19:00 |
Cryterion | prefer duckduckgo.com as a search engine | 19:00 |
inetpro | :-) | 19:00 |
Cryterion | Can't use google if they can't track you | 19:01 |
Kilos | haha i use it too | 19:01 |
Kilos | and i notice when you install midori you get the option to open midori or midori private browser | 19:02 |
Kilos | just the flash thing is a prob | 19:03 |
inetpro | as much as you can not trust Google you can also not trust most other services out there | 19:03 |
Kilos | ya i agree but i want my site to work | 19:04 |
Kilos | even forgotten how to get to login there | 19:04 |
Kilos | sigh | 19:04 |
Kilos | who was the yola guy here? | 19:04 |
Kilos | oh inetpro i havent asked for a while how you and the family are | 19:06 |
Kilos | sorry | 19:06 |
inetpro | good, good thanks | 19:06 |
Kilos | you must be a bit better with it warming up | 19:06 |
inetpro | too hot for me now already | 19:06 |
Kilos | oh my | 19:06 |
* inetpro prefers below 30°C | 19:07 | |
Kilos | ai! | 19:07 |
inetpro | Saturday was 34°C when I checked at about 16:00 | 19:08 |
Cryterion | 2hrs 52mins left of winter | 19:08 |
Kilos | lol | 19:09 |
Cryterion | not that we really had a winter | 19:09 |
Kilos | always a late cold snap to come kill fruit | 19:09 |
Cryterion | yeah like 2 weeks ago or somewhere around there | 19:09 |
Cryterion | even 3 | 19:10 |
Kilos | yeah i think maybe another one or two might show up | 19:10 |
inetpro | Kilos: I hope not | 19:10 |
inetpro | strawberries are blooming nicely now | 19:10 |
Kilos | like last year all mulberries were wiped | 19:11 |
Kilos | yeah i have some fruit showing as well | 19:11 |
Cryterion | possibly, never know what those Haarp antena's are planning | 19:11 |
kulelu88 | you can't avoid google if you use the internet | 19:12 |
kulelu88 | google analytics, google ads, google cdn, etc. | 19:12 |
* Cryterion will sort his pepper seeds out this week | 19:12 | |
inetpro | kulelu88: hmm... | 19:12 |
Kilos | lost many of my plants by forgetting to water them | 19:12 |
inetpro | google only knows the tip of the iceberg about the interwebs | 19:13 |
Cryterion | kulelu88, I kill those ad's and report that they block the page (cause they normally do) | 19:13 |
Kilos | i actually have 2 peppadew plant that didnt die to the roots and are sprouting again | 19:13 |
Cryterion | kwl, want to get some of my Trinidad chilli's going, Hottest chilli out apparently | 19:14 |
Kilos | hotter than habinero and | 19:16 |
Kilos | um | 19:16 |
Kilos | jalapeno | 19:16 |
Kilos | peppadews make nice pickles for peeps that cant handle the very hot stuff | 19:17 |
kulelu88 | you guys must be loading the masalas also | 19:17 |
Cryterion | Arguments are it's hotter than the Trinidad Scorpion (Genius Records) as it's a mix of it and another | 19:18 |
kulelu88 | Kilos eating a hot hot bunny anol | 19:18 |
Kilos | i just by masalas | 19:18 |
Kilos | buy | 19:18 |
Cryterion | try a Trinidad 7-Pot /Pod | 19:18 |
Cryterion | gets the 7 from 1 being enough to spice up 7 pots of stew | 19:19 |
Kilos | i will as soon as im fixed up | 19:19 |
Kilos | no energy for gardning atm | 19:19 |
Cryterion | getting back into it | 19:19 |
kulelu88 | how'd your operasie gegaan? Kilos | 19:21 |
Kilos | i only go for that on the 22nd | 19:21 |
Kilos | sigh | 19:21 |
Kilos | but meantime meds keeping me lazy | 19:21 |
Kilos | either sleeping or with lappy on tummy | 19:22 |
Kilos | hehe | 19:22 |
Kilos | they have advantages | 19:22 |
superfly | Bunny show | 19:31 |
superfly | *chow | 19:31 |
Kilos | yummy food | 19:34 |
Kilos | wbb reboot needed | 19:36 |
melodie | evening greetings | 19:39 |
Kilos | security upgrades all the time even with 14.04.3 | 19:41 |
Kilos | sigh | 19:41 |
superfly | Kilos: don't sigh. they're good. | 19:42 |
Kilos | yes i agree superfly but it means that things are getting worse doesnt it | 19:43 |
melodie | Kilos no it doesn't | 19:45 |
Kilos | hi melodie | 19:45 |
melodie | they are as they always have been | 19:45 |
Kilos | lol | 19:45 |
melodie | evening greetings Kilos | 19:45 |
melodie | ok, the new Malinux is mostly ready, I would like to find a graphist who can step in for a little work, to make the plymouth theme a custom, using the logos and wallpaper of the spin | 19:46 |
melodie | is there any one here who could offer to do that? | 19:47 |
Kilos | oh my is raffy busy | 19:47 |
melodie | yes, as usual | 19:47 |
Kilos | dont think we got grahics peeps here | 19:47 |
melodie | he did the header for bentovillage.me but instead of a few days it took him 2 weeks | 19:47 |
Kilos | eish | 19:48 |
melodie | hello peeps! Is there a graphist on this chan? :D | 19:48 |
Kilos | maybe you the one that needs to slow down | 19:48 |
melodie | certainly not | 19:48 |
Kilos | hehe | 19:48 |
melodie | if I do that I'll miss the train when it comes by | 19:48 |
Kilos | even bees rest now and again | 19:48 |
melodie | I need the job done for the day before yesterday ;) | 19:49 |
melodie | yes, at night | 19:49 |
Kilos | lol | 19:49 |
Kilos | you dont even rest at night | 19:49 |
melodie | night is the best time to work without being disturbed by the noisy humans! | 19:50 |
Kilos | lol | 19:57 |
Kilos | night all, sleep tight | 20:04 |
melodie | good night Kilos keep on well! | 20:04 |
Kilos | ty you too | 20:04 |
Cryterion | night everyone | 20:49 |
inetpro | good night | 21:02 |
kulelu88 | yo superfly . I've made some major progress! | 21:37 |
superfly | kulelu88: you've decided to come for an intervie? | 21:38 |
superfly | *interview | 21:38 |
kulelu88 | haha. Do you guys need a data scientist? | 21:38 |
kulelu88 | I'd sure love to spend a little time in cpt | 21:38 |
superfly | yes | 21:38 |
kulelu88 | hire me from October to March <3 | 21:39 |
superfly | we do have an internship programme | 21:39 |
kulelu88 | I'm planning on using nbconvert to make my ipython notebook into a nice slide presentation | 21:40 |
melodie | hi kulelu88 superfly | 21:40 |
kulelu88 | yo melodie | 21:40 |
superfly | kulelu88: I'm keen to see it in action | 21:41 |
superfly | but first, I need some sleep. night all! | 21:41 |
kulelu88 | Peace superfly o/ | 21:42 |
melodie | gn superfly | 21:45 |
melodie | good night | 22:39 |
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