=== MaNL is now known as MaNI [06:31] Mornings [06:33] good evening [07:01] good aftermornoon [07:02] Wow thatgraemeguy [07:02] Morning :) [07:03] Mornings [07:23] morning all [07:24] More oom [07:25] hi mazal barrydk and superfly [07:25] oh and inetpro [07:26] 'lo [07:28] ohi thatgraemeguy [09:19] http://mybroadband.co.za/news/broadband/136884-telkom-integrated-data-wallet-launched-use-your-adsl-on-mobile.html [09:19] I wonder what the catch is? [09:19] i.e. what stops me from just buying an ADSL capped account and using it on mobile, which would be cheaper [09:27] it does explicitly say their *capped* data in the description [09:27] unless thats just bad journalism [09:27] yes of course [09:28] but even so a 20GB capped adsl account is WAY cheaper than 20GB of regular mobile data [09:28] ahh sorry, thought you said uncapped account [09:28] so there must be a catch of some sort [09:28] hopefully nothing, it would be nice to finally stop being ripped off for mobile data, but there must be something [09:28] like limited to 512kbps, or whatnot [09:28] keen to see the Ts & Cs eventually [09:34] I suppose if it pushes lots of mobiles users who don't have ADSL to get ADSL it can be worth their while [09:35] fixed monthly line rentals and whatnot instead of sporadic as needed data purchases [09:35] I supposed they would validate whether you had an adsl line [09:36] and if they're clever they only let the mobile work if you have an active adsl connection at the time [09:36] otherwise i just buy a nice 20GB adsl account and use it on my telkom sim, all while still using ISP X on my adsl router [09:37] yeah [09:38] probably tied to the line rental is my guess [09:38] pushes more people to return to renting lines from them and helps them make money that way (and win back the market) [09:38] from there they can slowly increase data prices or upsell people in other ways on the ADSL [09:39] yeah but there has to be some way to prevent someone with an already-existing line from just scoring cheap mobile data [09:40] i've had adsl for 10 years, they aren't winning a new account with me, so what stops me from getting 10GB of mobile for R99 using this? mmmm [09:40] guess i'll just wait and see [09:40] maybe [09:40] or maybe they just don't care about the losses from existing ADSL users who also use lots of mobile [09:41] I've no t been following closely but we have crazy statistics where most of our 'broadband' is now mobile and stuff [09:42] The ADSL network is pretty much their only asset they have that their competitors don't - if they let trends continue it will become irrelevant and everything will be mobile - so growing the ADSL userbase might be worth it [09:43] growing ADSL is a temp measure at best, it's all about fibre nowadays [09:43] I'm an example - I don't have an ADSL line I just connect via wireless to the office and use the office internet - with this I would possibly be forced to at least consider going back to renting an ADSL line [09:43] well ADSL/fibre - growing the fixed line non wireless userbase [09:43] maybe trying to boost adsl numbers because its essentially free money at this stage, then plough the free money into fibre [09:44] but yeah will be interesting to see the final t&c's [09:44] maybe there will be a 'for up to 100Mb a day' limitation or something to keep it sane [09:44] I wanted to use wireless to the office too but it isn't physically practical for me right now sadly [09:45] so spolied with 100M fibre here and 2M adsl at home :'( [09:45] I know, #firstworldproblems [09:45] my office internet is sadly just ADSL no fancy fibre stuff, but still better than having my own [09:46] plus I swore to never deal directly with telkom ever again [09:47] after they spent like 2 years harassing me for money that I didn't owe them :p (plus all the other torment I've had dealing with them over the years) [09:47] if I couldn't connect to the office I'd probably just be on a wisp [10:30] good morning [10:32] afternoon all [12:02] good mornings [12:02] Kilos: eh, and hi there as well [12:03] Cryterion: you still be looking for me? [12:10] [11:01:56] someone please tell inetpro I'm sick of waiting for him, I can't take it anymore, I'm going to throw myself off a cliff [12:10] okay then [12:11] yikes! [12:11] too much? :) [12:12] * inetpro going to the edge of the cliff to go look for him [12:13] eish! [12:31] RIP Cryterion [12:39] Bye everyone , have a nice afternoon. God bless [12:40] by.... oh [13:34] hi inetpro [13:34] Kilos: ehlo [13:34] lol at cr [13:35] * inetpro failed to find him [13:36] and now he's lost for ever? [13:36] lol [15:04] * pieter2627 rofl [16:05] chat later home time [18:24] hi uncle Kilos ... how you feeling today? [18:24] ok ty nlsthzn , still sleepy but good ty [18:24] and you? [18:25] fine thanks... also very sleepy, baby bear doesn't seem to need sleep >.< - and starting work again tomorrow :'( [18:25] lolol [18:26] well I am also just about off... have a good evening all :) [18:27] night nlsthzn sleep tight [18:27] :) [18:40] brb [18:44] so clever peeps what do you all suggest as our alternative to flash that will work in any browser [18:45] im not a chrome or firefox fan [18:45] Kilos: the alternative is no flash [18:46] oh my [18:46] it's either flash or it is no flash [18:46] flash must die! [18:47] good evening btw [18:47] but adobe isnt supporting linux anymore [18:47] hi my pro [18:47] i saw gnash and light something [18:48] also saw html5 [18:48] do none of them work? [18:50] hi Cryterion [18:50] Hi [18:50] inetpro ^^ [18:50] Flash is not only unnecessary with today's streaming technology, but can open users up to major security vulnerabilities [18:51] hello Cryterion [18:51] see ThatGraemeGuy been up to mischief [18:51] oh my [18:51] lolol [18:51] * inetpro happy to see he found his way up the cliffs again [18:51] [11:01:56] someone please tell inetpro I'm sick of waiting for him, I can't take it anymore, I'm going to throw myself off a cliff [18:51] lol [18:51] anyway, sorry been out most of the day [18:51] haha [18:51] no problemos [18:52] Cryterion: I net you didn't say that ^^ ? [18:52] I bet* [18:52] lol [18:52] inetpro and Kilos, got an update to that xls offgrid thing you should look at [18:52] did some corrections and added a few extra calculations into it [18:53] oh yes i remember something about that [18:53] xls offgrid thing? hmm... [18:53] * inetpro forgot about loadshedding already [18:53] and all the alternative power ideas [18:54] think I emailed it to you last time, if you interested, yeah loadshedding seems scarce atm [18:54] been way too busy with other stuffs [18:54] Cryterion: I remember [18:54] yes please Cryterion im interested [18:54] I'm still looking into it anyway, savings at the end, costly now, but pays off at the end [18:55] hold on will try send in a moment [18:55] no rush lad [18:55] Cryterion: just email me the updates as well when you have a chance [18:55] ohi superfly hows you and family? [18:56] ok, will do for both you and Kilos [18:56] Kilos: we're OK thanks [18:56] ty [18:58] Kilos: Death of Flash inches closer as Mozilla blocks Firefox plugin http://mashable.com/2015/07/14/mozilla-disables-flash/ [18:59] They already implemented by default [18:59] and then: Google's Chrome to start auto-pausing Flash ads on Sept. 1 http://mashable.com/2015/08/28/google-chrome-autopause-flash/ [19:00] I don't use google or their browser [19:00] Cryterion: I know [19:00] prefer duckduckgo.com as a search engine [19:00] :-) [19:01] Can't use google if they can't track you [19:01] haha i use it too [19:02] and i notice when you install midori you get the option to open midori or midori private browser [19:03] just the flash thing is a prob [19:03] as much as you can not trust Google you can also not trust most other services out there [19:04] ya i agree but i want my site to work [19:04] even forgotten how to get to login there [19:04] sigh [19:04] who was the yola guy here? [19:06] oh inetpro i havent asked for a while how you and the family are [19:06] sorry [19:06] good, good thanks [19:06] you must be a bit better with it warming up [19:06] too hot for me now already [19:06] oh my [19:07] * inetpro prefers below 30°C [19:07] ai! [19:08] Saturday was 34°C when I checked at about 16:00 [19:08] 2hrs 52mins left of winter [19:09] lol [19:09] not that we really had a winter [19:09] always a late cold snap to come kill fruit [19:09] yeah like 2 weeks ago or somewhere around there [19:10] even 3 [19:10] yeah i think maybe another one or two might show up [19:10] Kilos: I hope not [19:10] strawberries are blooming nicely now [19:11] like last year all mulberries were wiped [19:11] yeah i have some fruit showing as well [19:11] possibly, never know what those Haarp antena's are planning [19:12] you can't avoid google if you use the internet [19:12] google analytics, google ads, google cdn, etc. [19:12] * Cryterion will sort his pepper seeds out this week [19:12] kulelu88: hmm... [19:12] lost many of my plants by forgetting to water them [19:13] google only knows the tip of the iceberg about the interwebs [19:13] kulelu88, I kill those ad's and report that they block the page (cause they normally do) [19:13] i actually have 2 peppadew plant that didnt die to the roots and are sprouting again [19:14] kwl, want to get some of my Trinidad chilli's going, Hottest chilli out apparently [19:16] hotter than habinero and [19:16] um [19:16] jalapeno [19:17] peppadews make nice pickles for peeps that cant handle the very hot stuff [19:17] you guys must be loading the masalas also [19:18] Arguments are it's hotter than the Trinidad Scorpion (Genius Records) as it's a mix of it and another [19:18] Kilos eating a hot hot bunny anol [19:18] i just by masalas [19:18] buy [19:18] try a Trinidad 7-Pot /Pod [19:19] gets the 7 from 1 being enough to spice up 7 pots of stew [19:19] i will as soon as im fixed up [19:19] no energy for gardning atm [19:19] getting back into it [19:21] how'd your operasie gegaan? Kilos [19:21] i only go for that on the 22nd [19:21] sigh [19:21] but meantime meds keeping me lazy [19:22] either sleeping or with lappy on tummy [19:22] hehe [19:22] they have advantages [19:31] Bunny show [19:31] *chow [19:34] yummy food [19:36] wbb reboot needed [19:39] evening greetings [19:41] security upgrades all the time even with 14.04.3 [19:41] sigh [19:42] Kilos: don't sigh. they're good. [19:43] yes i agree superfly but it means that things are getting worse doesnt it [19:45] Kilos no it doesn't [19:45] hi melodie [19:45] they are as they always have been [19:45] lol [19:45] evening greetings Kilos [19:46] ok, the new Malinux is mostly ready, I would like to find a graphist who can step in for a little work, to make the plymouth theme a custom, using the logos and wallpaper of the spin [19:47] is there any one here who could offer to do that? [19:47] oh my is raffy busy [19:47] yes, as usual [19:47] dont think we got grahics peeps here [19:47] he did the header for bentovillage.me but instead of a few days it took him 2 weeks [19:48] eish [19:48] hello peeps! Is there a graphist on this chan? :D [19:48] maybe you the one that needs to slow down [19:48] certainly not [19:48] hehe [19:48] if I do that I'll miss the train when it comes by [19:48] even bees rest now and again [19:49] I need the job done for the day before yesterday ;) [19:49] yes, at night [19:49] lol [19:49] you dont even rest at night [19:50] night is the best time to work without being disturbed by the noisy humans! [19:57] lol [20:04] night all, sleep tight [20:04] good night Kilos keep on well! [20:04] ty you too [20:49] night everyone [21:02] good night [21:37] yo superfly . I've made some major progress! [21:38] kulelu88: you've decided to come for an intervie? [21:38] *interview [21:38] haha. Do you guys need a data scientist? [21:38] I'd sure love to spend a little time in cpt [21:38] yes [21:39] hire me from October to March <3 [21:39] we do have an internship programme [21:40] I'm planning on using nbconvert to make my ipython notebook into a nice slide presentation [21:40] hi kulelu88 superfly [21:40] yo melodie [21:41] kulelu88: I'm keen to see it in action [21:41] but first, I need some sleep. night all! [21:42] Peace superfly o/ [21:45] gn superfly [22:39] good night