[00:00] <Daemoen> hey guys, had to switch from ntpd to openntpd (bsd's fork), as we require non privileged port usage...
[00:00] <Daemoen> unfortunately, there doesnt seem to be an ntpq with openntpd;  but openntpd and ntpd conflict
[00:00] <Daemoen> any alternative ?
[00:03] <MonkeyDust> Daemoen  sounds like you require an alternative for an alternative
[00:03] <Daemoen> MonkeyDust, we use cloud providers in other countries, and several of them block ntp on restricted ports (downright stupid);  unfortunately ntpd itself cannot run on unprivileged ports, but openntpd can
[00:04] <Daemoen> so i need to be able to run ntpd (obviously), but i also need to be able to troubleshoot and make sure that it is working...
[00:04] <MonkeyDust> Daemoen  is that on a server scale?
[00:04] <Daemoen> client and server
[00:05] <Daemoen> the only way i could get ntpd working (standard ntpd) was using ntpdate -d (debug mode), which is essentially using the -u mode (unprivileged);  you cant do that with the daemon, so the servers that we try to connect to are permanently stuck in INIT
[00:05] <Daemoen> and stratum 16
[00:05] <Daemoen> which essentially means, we cannot connect to them
[00:07] <MonkeyDust> Daemoen  if you don't get an answer here, try #ubuntu-server
[00:08] <Daemoen> ahh, didnt realize there was a separate server channel, graci
[00:08] <MonkeyDust> Daemoen  yes, that's why I asked, hope you find a solution
[00:10] <Daemoen> me too;  its not a normal issue, so hoping someone knows something
[00:11] <Daemoen> honestly, it almost seems like openntpd works better than the normal ntpd, lol
[00:12] <Daemoen> the downside is that the config is vastly different than standard linux ntpd
[00:12] <geedorah> hello! I am new to ubuntu am running it as the sole OS on my old laptop
[00:13] <geedorah> Is it possible for me to use my old laptop as a VPN server for my primary computer?
[00:19] <TheRealSol> geedorah, yes it is possible
[00:20] <promet> daftykins, thought about this actually. I'm, probably mistakenly I guess, if I understand your suggestion, but if I have my own openvpn server on my ubuntu machine, is not my "exit ip" still associated with my machine, i.e. my "domicile" ip, and therefore moot?
[00:21] <daftykins> promet: yeah you get one on a VPS, like digitalocean.com
[00:21] <geedorah> heRealSol how so?
[00:21] <TheRealSol> have a look at openvpn
[00:22] <TheRealSol> promet: I think the suggestion was to use Ubuntu but on a cloud server
[00:22] <geedorah> is there a free option for digital ocean?
[00:22] <geedorah> Is there any way I can get rid of this quit reports and other mess
[00:23] <TheRealSol> https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-set-up-an-openvpn-server-on-ubuntu-14-04
[00:25] <promet> daftykins, TheRealSol, thank you very much; I'm a little unclear on that though. Could you point me to some reading?
[00:25] <promet> Oh, doh, TheRealSol, see that; thanks!
[00:26] <TheRealSol> same link for promet & geedorah
[00:26] <daftykins> promet: like what? google "ubuntu 14.04 openvpn" and you'll get digitalocean.com's guide which works great on their VPSs.
[00:27] <promet> daftykins, again; mille grazie
[00:28] <daftykins> promet: np, DO lets you place servers in many countries across the world so you can have your traffic endpoint be where you like
[00:31] <keithtoo> Hey folks. New 15.04 install on a brand new box - can't get sound to work (and the speakers aren't muted)
[00:32] <keithtoo> any ideas?
[00:32] <daftykins> you could try a newer mainline kernel
[00:32] <daftykins> !mainline
[00:32] <daftykins> how new is the build? skylake or some such?
[00:32] <daftykins> actually before that identify the hardware
[00:32] <daftykins> "lspci"
[00:34] <keithtoo> lspci gives me a curious response on the sound card'
[00:35] <keithtoo> Unassigned class [ff00]: Intel Corporation C610/X99 series chipset SPSR (rev 05)
[00:35] <keithtoo> sound settings don't show all the outputs either
[00:37] <keithtoo> 2 audio devices found: the one I want is Audio device: Intel Corporation C610/X99 series chipset HD Audio Controller (rev 05)
[00:37] <daftykins> can you pastebin the whole output? http://paste.ubuntu.com
[00:37] <daftykins> oh right
[00:38] <daftykins> is this one of the Haswell-E setups? :)
[00:38] <keithtoo> not sure - it's an alienware x51 R2 box...
[00:38] <promet> And now for something completely different. My most recent 15.04 update (I know) has somehow disabled sudo access (bumped me out of sudoers group somehow?) anyone grock this?
[00:39] <daftykins> promet: pastebin "groups"
[00:39] <promet> By most recent I mean, like, two hours ago, by my update reckoning, which could literally be any amount of time by yours ;)
[00:39] <promet> I'm pretty attentive, to that at least, though...
[00:41] <keithtoo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12235758/
[00:45] <daftykins> yeah so the intel one is the onboard, then the nvidia one is just the HDMI audio support (were it plugged into a TV)
[00:46] <keithtoo> Yep - there's 3 outputs for a 5.1 set up. All the speakers work - tested in Windows.
[00:47] <daftykins> i'd google ubuntu with your machine if you haven't already then
[00:47] <keithtoo> lol - been there all day doing just that
[00:49] <promet> daftykins, http://paste.ubuntu.com/12235778/
[00:49] <keithtoo> sound settings don't show any of the output channels - S/PDIF and headphones in some configs, or just headphones in others.
[00:50] <promet> daftykins, I see "sudo", but not "sudoers", which why those would be exclusive groups I'll never know...
[00:51] <promet> adolf_titler; that...is hilarious sort of...
[00:51] <daftykins> promet: i can't remember whether it used to be admin or used to be sudo, then changed to the other :D
[00:51] <daftykins> lets see
[00:52] <daftykins> ah yeah it's 'sudo' on my 14.04
[00:52] <daftykins> keithtoo: yeah SPDIF is optical or coaxial, so no use to you there
[00:53] <daftykins> keithtoo: here we go, try this
[00:53] <daftykins> sudo nano /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
[00:53] <daftykins> at the end of the script add this line:
[00:53] <daftykins> options snd-hda-intel
[00:53] <keithtoo> daftykins: none at all - even my Klipsch speakers don't take that input
[00:54] <alyssavance> Hi - on the Unity desktop, doing Ctrl + Alt on the keyboard brings up the file browser
[00:54] <alyssavance> This is super annoying on Emacs, how can I disable it?
[00:55] <daftykins> alyssavance: check settings -> keyboard shortcuts
[00:56] <alyssavance> daftykins: Looked there, but I don't see a Ctrl + Alt shortcut listed
[00:56] <daftykins> ok, no idea - confirm in the guest session maybe?
[00:56] <keithtoo> daftykins: no value for index?
[00:56] <daftykins> that'll confirm whether it's your users config
[00:56] <daftykins> keithtoo: i don't follow you there
[00:57] <alyssavance> daftykins: Aha - for some reason a shortcut was listed as "Ctrl+Alt L" instead of "Ctrl+Alt+L"
[00:57] <alyssavance> Not sure why, but removing that fixed it
[00:57] <alyssavance> Thanks
[00:57] <keithtoo> the other entries end in index=-2.... just checking
[01:15] <promet> daftykins, I'm, now, in retrospect, maybe foolishly, on 15.04 (blame it on my "youth"), do you think I should add myself to "admin"?
[01:16] <promet> Also, has anyone else noticed this "sudo issue" in 15.04? Was working a treat yesterday...
[01:19] <daftykins> promet: so just to confirm, if you open a terminal and "sudo -i" it doesn't prompt for password?
[01:22] <TJ_on_Wily> Any ideas how to figure out how an application was auto-started at X session log-in? Nothing obvious in any autostart settings. What is unexpected is the Parent PID is 1 (the init daemon)
[01:29] <OneM_Industries> How would I find out what speed memory I have in a box without opening the case or being able to look it up?
[01:29] <OneM_Industries> Is there some command to find that out?
[01:30] <TJ_on_Wily> OneM_Industries, "sudo dmidecode -t memory"
[01:30] <OneM_Industries> Thank you!
[01:33] <deagle> hello hello!
[01:33] <deagle> Does anyone know how to get a script to run when you resume from suspend mode? Every explanation I've found won't work :(
[01:36] <marjory> mrgbar
[01:38] <marjory> join #chat
[01:41] <promet> daftykins, "sudo -i" does give me root access; which is why I'm confused by this: sudo gunzip -c /usr/share/doc/openvpn/examples/sample-config-files/server.conf.gz > /etc/openvpn/server.conf bash: /etc/openvpn/server.conf: Permission denied
[01:42] <promet> daftykins, forgive the paste, pastebinit seemed not toaccept this one...
[01:42] <daftykins> can you show that in a proper pastebin so it doesn't confuse formatting?
[01:42] <deagle> try su -c "<yourcommand>"
[01:42] <TJ_on_Wily> promet, what is confusing? You run gunzip as root, but the shell redirect is done as your user, not root
[01:43] <daftykins> mmm i had a feeling that was going on, isn't this one of those situations where 'tee' is handy? i don't know how to use it mind :>
[01:43] <TJ_on_Wily> promet, "gunzip -c /usr/share/doc/openvpn/examples/sample-config-files/server.conf.gz | sudo dd of=/etc/openvpn/server.conf"
[01:44] <promet> daftykins, result:  su -c gunzip -c /usr/share/doc/openvpn/examples/sample-config-files/server.conf.gz > /etc/openvpn/server.conf
[01:44] <promet> bash: /etc/openvpn/server.conf: Permission denied
[01:45] <deagle> you need the quotes
[01:45] <promet> TJ_on_Wily, I will try this.
[01:46] <daftykins> promet: wasn't me that advised that one :>
[01:46] <promet> TJ_on_Wily, though I'll hav eto beg your pardon on "what is confusing", as that is clearly a point of confusion
[01:47] <promet> daftykins, duly noted
[01:48] <TJ_on_Wily> promet, The shell that receives your typed command also parses it. It finds the ">" I/O redirection and splits the command into 2, piping the output of the first half to the file in the 2nd half. Any privilege escalation only applies to the half it is in
[01:49] <TJ_on_Wily> promet, You need privilege escalation for writing to "/etc/openvpn/server.conf"  -- not for reading from "/usr/share/doc/openvpn/examples/sample-config-files/server.conf.gz"
[01:50] <promet> TJ_on_Wily, roger that. So, how to pass privilege escalation "through" a pipe, I guess then, is what I'm asking
[01:51] <promet> Or maybe I should just go in there and edit it, no?
[01:51] <deagle> by surrounding the command with quotes, and putting  su -c in front of it ;) (you can't)
[01:51] <TJ_on_Wily> promet, You don't. You apply on the 'receiving' side that has to write. The command I gave you does that, using 'dd' to read from stdin and write to the file (specified by of=)
[01:52] <promet> TJ_on_Wily, thank you, and that is the "simplest" way of doing this?
[01:54] <TJ_on_Wily> promet, using the | pipe makes it simpler especially if you have more complex commands either side that use shell variables, or quote marks, since wrapping those with additional quotes to pass them to, e.g., "su -c '...' " gets messy
[01:55] <promet> TJ_on_Wily, roger that, thank you again
[01:55] <TJ_on_Wily> promet, Instead of dd, if you want to display the output as well as write it to the file, you could use "gunzip -c /usr/share/doc/openvpn/examples/sample-config-files/server.conf.gz | sudo tee /etc/openvpn/server.conf"
[01:56] <TJ_on_Wily> promet, and with 'tee' you can use its 'tee -a ...' option to *append* the output to an existing file... useful if you don't want to over-write any existing content that might be there
[01:56] <promet> TJ_on_Wily, gotcha; thanks
[02:01] <monty_hall> like to know files in a package
[02:01] <monty_hall> how to query this?
[02:02] <lotuspsychje> !info rar | monty_hall
[02:02] <monty_hall> sorry, I mean pacakge from apt-get
[02:02] <monty_hall> or whatever you call it
[02:03] <lotuspsychje> monty_hall: explain a bit what you want mate?
[02:03] <monty_hall> apt-get install mercurial-keyring
[02:03] <deagle> file-roller will open it and show you what's in it (aka Archive Manager)
[02:03] <monty_hall> would like to know where ubuntu installed it
[02:03] <deagle> oooh
[02:03] <monty_hall> and what it installed
[02:03] <lotuspsychje> monty_hall: you can use the 'whereis' command in terminal
[02:03] <zykotick9> monty_hall: "dpkg -L mercurial-keyring" perhaps
[02:03] <monty_hall> yeah, whereis only tells me the file
[02:04] <monty_hall> I don't know what it is :P
[02:04] <monty_hall> zykotick9: i'll try it.  I think that's what I want
[02:04] <dingderp> Hey guys, I bought a dell inspiron 3000 that had Ubuntu preinstalled on it.  I decided to just wipe the dell oem Ubuntu and install the latest Ubuntu 14.04.3.  When I did that the touchpad didn't work and the only way I figured out how to fix it was to use the legacy BIOS boot instead of UEFI, it works but now my laptop doesn't shutdown
[02:04] <monty_hall> zykotick9: you rock
[02:04] <deagle> Anyone know how to get a script to run when you resume from suspend mode?
[02:05] <dingderp> it's driving me nuts tonight, I hate this laptop already
[02:05] <linx_001> you can't shut it down with commands as well?
[02:05] <lotuspsychje> dingderp: try a tail -f /var/log/syslog while you trying shutdown
[02:06] <TJ_on_Wily> deagle, /etc/pm/sleep.d/
[02:06] <lotuspsychje> dingderp: we had users with systemd issue on shutdown lately
[02:06] <dingderp> lotuspsychje: ok
[02:06] <lotuspsychje> oh wait its trusty
[02:06] <lotuspsychje> nvm last one
[02:06] <dingderp> yeah, no systemd here
[02:06] <TJ_on_Wily> dingderp, When you wiped the Dell install you probably deleted some ACPI-specific code/settings that handle shutdown
[02:07] <dingderp> linx_001: I can't shut it down with commands either, the problem is the machine just doesn't shutdown, it stops at halt
[02:07] <deagle> TJ_on_Wily: the script I put there won't run at all :( http://paste.ubuntu.com/12235953/
[02:07] <dingderp> TJ_on_Wily: I assume that might be the issue...
[02:07] <dingderp> but I'm not sure what I can do
[02:07] <TJ_on_Wily> dingderp, firstly, you don't 'sudo' since those scripts run as root
[02:08] <deagle> i'm sure you meant me
[02:08] <deagle> yeah, I was just going to type that the         sudo -u me env DISPLAY=:0 bit was a last ditch effort
[02:09] <deagle> perms on it are 755, and the owner is root:root (like the other files there)
[02:09] <TJ_on_Wily> deagle, Yes, sorry, tab-complete was incomplete :)
[02:10] <deagle> at least you -have- tab-complete :P
[02:10] <OerHeks> dingderp, check for bios update
[02:11] <lotuspsychje> dingderp: and investigate your logs for relevant errors
[02:12] <dingderp> ok
[02:14] <TJ_on_Wily> deagle, also, you don't need to use the "&" to put it background since you've got the "--daemon" option for that
[02:15] <dingderp> Wait a second, I found out just now that there seems to be a way for me to fix my touchpad while using UEFI mode.  I can blacklist i2c_hid
[02:15] <dingderp> Now.... I don't know what that module is for
[02:16] <daftykins> seems a tad drastic
[02:16] <TJ_on_Wily> deagle, try "su -c 'env DISPLAY=:0.0 /usr/bin/inputattach --daemon -w8801 /dev/ttyS4' me"  <<-- notice "me" is the username
[02:16] <yan__> hi
[02:16] <TJ_on_Wily> dingderp, IIC bus for Human Interface Devices
[02:17] <dingderp> also there does not seem to be any bios updates I can use :/
[02:17] <daftykins> dingderp: why would you try and update a new machine?
[02:17] <daftykins> i suggest you contact Dell support for further efforts, since you know - you paid them for a machine
[02:17] <dingderp> daftykins: it was a suggestion on here to check for a bios update
[02:17] <deagle> TJ_on_Wily: there's no "a2enmod" type of step for pm scripts, right?
[02:17] <dingderp> daftykins: yeah I may end up having to do that
[02:17] <TJ_on_Wily> dingderp, Can you get hold of the original Dell image? I wouldn't be surprised if it had customised kernel command-line options for ACPI, e.g. "acpi_osi=Windows 2012"
[02:18] <daftykins> i'd have made a backup ;)
[02:18] <deagle> like modprobe, or such
[02:18] <dingderp> I'll look for that image now
[02:18] <dingderp> yeah i should've made an image backup, I never would have thought this would be an issue
[02:19] <TJ_on_Wily> deagle, correct; drop the script/executable in the directory and chmod u+x; chown root:root
[02:19] <deagle> k let me close my lid and try it.
[02:19] <deagle> :( nothing
[02:21] <TJ_on_Wily> deagle, first thing is to confirm the script executes. Add a line after 'su' with "echo "$(/bin/date) inputattach returned $?" >> /var/log/inputattach.log
[02:23] <zq> hello
[02:23] <deagle> good idea! one question though... what will the $? do? shouldn't I take out the daemon, and redirect output?
[02:23] <zq> im from CHINA
[02:24] <zq> hello?
[02:24] <TJ_on_Wily> deagle, actually, that'll always report 0 return. It should be "RESULT=$?; echo "$(date) inputattach returned $RESULT" >> /var/log/inputattach.log"
[02:24] <Ben64> zq: this is the ubuntu support channel. if you have a question, ask it
[02:25] <zq> ？？
[02:25] <dingderp> I'm getting tired tonight, I may as well mess with this laptop tomorrow.  I'm gonna try reinstalling in UEFI mode and blacklisting i2c_hid since that seems to be the only solution that is popping up
[02:26] <dingderp> if that doesn't work I'm just gonna contact dell
[02:26] <dingderp> next time I'm paying more for a not so cheapy laptop LOL
[02:26] <deagle> TJ_on_Wily: k, testing...
[02:26] <dingderp> anyway goodnight all
[02:27] <deagle> :( nuthin'
[02:28] <deagle> let me check the log
[02:28] <deagle> no such file or directory -_-
[02:29] <TJ_on_Wily> deagle, OK, that suggests the script isn't running
[02:30]  * TJ_on_Wily drops a shebang on deagle's head!
[02:30] <deagle> >_<
[02:30] <deagle> woooow
[02:30] <TJ_on_Wily> deagle, There should *not* be a space in the shebang line, it should be "#!/bin/bash"
[02:31] <deagle> scripting while drunk :P
[02:31] <TJ_on_Wily> deagle, You can use /bin/sh there - nothing bash-specific in use
[02:31] <deagle> let's try that all over again...
[02:31] <deagle> meh... force of habit
[02:33] <deagle> nothing :(
[02:34] <TJ_on_Wily> I wonder if it is because of the way the suspend/resume is running
[02:34] <LonelyDanbo> How do I run a command that uses multiple arguments, and also runs files with foreign language characters or spaces in them? I have a script that blocks internet access, then runs Wine with a bunch of arguments surrounded by double-quotes, but it's not recognizing the filename I type in. I can't use double-quotes for the filename.
[02:35] <deagle> How do you mean?
[02:35] <TJ_on_Wily> deagle, try from the command-line: "sudo pm-suspend"
[02:35] <deagle> command not found >_>
[02:35] <deagle> hmm....
[02:35] <deagle> it totally suspends when I close the lid, though!
[02:36] <deagle> acpi?
[02:36] <deagle> I mean... apm?
[02:36] <happyfr0gg> The shred cli command is not working. Files still reside on a flash stick.
[02:36] <deagle> I originally had it in the scripts dir, ln'd to resume.d
[02:37] <TJ_on_Wily> deagle, If you have the /etc/pm/sleep.d/ directory, that is part of the "pm-utils" package, which also contains "/usr/sbin/pm-suspend"
[02:37] <deagle> oddly enough, I don't even have pm-hibernate
[02:37] <deagle> which I used to have... I'm running eOS Freya, if that makes a difference
[02:37] <happyfr0gg> Bleachbit does not "see" the files in question but I can bring them up via the terminal. Please help. Thanks.
[02:37] <TJ_on_Wily> happyfr0gg, are you using "shred --remove ..." ?
[02:37] <deagle> I'll go ahead and install pm-utils
[02:38] <TJ_on_Wily> deagle, Check if it is installed first "apt-cache policy pm-utils"
[02:38] <happyfr0gg> TJ_on_Wily - I will try that. Give me a second.
[02:39] <TJ_on_Wily> deagle, you can find out which package(s) created the directory with "dpkg -S /etc/pm/sleep.d"
[02:39] <deagle> :O oooh noise!
[02:39] <LonelyDanbo> I've got like: nointernet "WINEARCH=win32 WINEPREFIX=~/.wine_test1 wine [].exe" and the exe filename is in foreign language characters. I have the language support installed, but it's not liking my command. I guess double-quotes around the exe wouldn't change anything, huh?
[02:40] <TJ_on_Wily> LonelyDanbo, try "...wine \"[].exe\""
[02:41] <LonelyDanbo> TJ_on_Wily thanks, will try.
[02:42] <myros> huhu
[02:42] <LonelyDanbo> Hm. Nope. Perhaps it's a Wine problem. The filename ends in ! and it's skipping all the foreign language characters before that and can't find !.exe
[02:43] <myros> i have a problem with a tutorial
[02:43] <TJ_on_Wily> LonelyDanbo, You may need to 'escape' those characters - maybe some are illegal
[02:43] <myros> http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2014/04/ubuntu-14-04-change-login-screen-background-remove-the-white-dots/
[02:43] <happyfr0gg> TJ_on_Wily - Thanks for your input - it worked!
[02:44] <myros> No protocol specified
[02:44] <myros> ** (dconf-editor:3368): WARNING **: Could not open X display
[02:44] <myros> No protocol specified
[02:44] <myros> gdk_mir_display_open
[02:44] <myros> Failed to connect to Mir: Failed to connect to server socket: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden
[02:44] <myros> Unable to init server: Verbindung ist gescheitert: Verbindungsaufbau abgelehnt
[02:52] <milk_is_my_crack> hi
[02:52] <LonelyDanbo> TJ_on_Wily is there an easy way to convert the filename into escape codes?
[02:53] <roigivis> hi
[02:54] <LonelyDanbo> oh he's gone.
[03:15] <_dreamer> Hello, just a quick question for anyone who play CS:GO. I would like to copy the game fromm windows to ubuntu, how would I go about doing that? I read that its possible, however I did not find a guide
[03:16] <daftykins> _dreamer: Steam? copy the cache dir
[03:17] <_dreamer> I want the whole game from windows moved to my ubuntu
[03:17] <_dreamer> I have mobile broadband and cant afford to download it again
[03:17] <daftykins> surely copy, not move
[03:17] <daftykins> sorry this is more of a steam query.
[03:17] <_dreamer> do I just copy the whole thing to ~/.local/share/Steam/SteamApps
[03:17] <_dreamer> ?
[03:18] <daftykins> read up where Steam stores games :)
[03:18] <daftykins> #ubuntu-steam exists i believe
[03:19] <_dreamer> yea but what am I supposed to copy?
[03:19] <_dreamer> the whole thing?
[03:19] <_dreamer> and just paste it?
[03:22] <star_> hey my linux isnt working can anybod helo out
[03:23] <_dreamer> daftykins: where do I find the large files on window?
[03:23] <_dreamer> daftykins: windows
[03:23] <bazhang> what version of ubuntu star_
[03:23] <bazhang> what is 'not working ' star_
[03:23] <star_> im using kali linux 2.0
[03:23] <bazhang> star_, thats not supported here
[03:24] <daftykins> _dreamer: it has its' own folder for the game in the Steam path
[03:24] <daftykins> !kali | star_
[03:24] <star_> the other gut said to join this channel
[03:24] <bazhang> no matter star_ its not
[03:24] <_dreamer> daftykins: oh, there we go :P
[03:24] <_dreamer> daftykins: found it
[03:25] <daftykins> :P
[03:25] <daftykins> well done
[03:25] <daftykins> star_: nope.
[03:25] <star_> it said could not send to that channel
[03:25] <bazhang>  /join #kali-linux star_
[03:25] <_dreamer> daftykins: now I can just steal the largest files and "recover" it later in ubuntu right?
[03:25] <bazhang> not our issue star_
[03:25] <daftykins> _dreamer: no copy the entire game folder
[03:25] <_dreamer> ok
[03:25] <daftykins> match it up against the cache size reported in Steam
[03:25] <_dreamer> daftykins: thx man
[03:26] <daftykins> it'll probably still have to download some, but it may not be as much
[03:26] <_dreamer> daftykins: of to installing ubuntu, have a good one
[03:26] <daftykins> i sense we'll be seeing that user again
[03:26] <thei0173> star_: write /join #Kali-linux it will send you the right place.
[03:26] <daftykins> star_: you might have to register, ask how to do that in #freenode
[03:37] <zerothis> How can I install Splashtop streamer on Vivid? the Precise package provided gives an error wanting an outdated version of  libavcodec (which in turn requires an outdated libavutil)
[03:38] <daftykins> yeah you can't use packages from older versions...
[03:38] <daftykins> zerothis: find a PPA or compile
[03:38] <daftykins> !info splashtop
[03:39] <zerothis> compile it is then, there is a source download provided
[04:05] <deserteagle> TJ_on_Wiley: apparently at some point the script disconnected my network card LOL
[04:10] <t2mkn> any one help me. i dont see any apps in drawer search, also there is no menu bar for any app running.
[04:13] <gioantrekminh> #ubuntu-chat
[04:13] <gioantrekminh> hello
[04:14] <star_> is anybody there
[04:15] <gioantrekminh> i think only me
[04:15] <gioantrekminh> hello star
[04:15] <gioantrekminh> i am a new ubuntu
[04:16] <t2mkn> me too
[04:16] <t2mkn> gioantrekminh: u a new ubuntu! u not working for me :P i have issue.
[04:17] <gioantrekminh> i am feeling happy, when i uses ubuntu
[04:17] <gioantrekminh> t2mkn: i don'think that
[04:17] <gioantrekminh> now u can make freind with me
[04:17] <t2mkn> it works, but i have done it in a different way, so its not working
[04:18] <t2mkn> need expert help to fix
[04:19] <gioantrekminh> what your problem ?
[04:20] <gioantrekminh> if i can, i ready help you now
[04:20] <t2mkn> menu bar is not visible
[04:20] <t2mkn> also i cant see any installed app in dash
[04:20] <dabdab> hi guys, i cant access shared folders on windows pc in my homegroup.. i already installed samba server and tried to share an empty folder but still no luck.. im running ubuntu 14.04 lts
[04:21] <t2mkn> its ubuntu server 14.04
[04:22] <t2mkn> installed ubuntu-desktop with no recommendas app installed
[04:22] <bazhang> t2mkn, server with a dash?
[04:22] <gioantrekminh> t2mkn: press mouse right, and chose Change Desktop Background
[04:22] <bazhang> t2mkn, thats desktop then
[04:23] <t2mkn> ok then
[04:23] <gioantrekminh> Behavior
[04:23] <t2mkn> ok now
[04:23] <gioantrekminh> and autou-hide the laucher
[04:24] <gioantrekminh> change it: on or off
[04:24] <gioantrekminh> show the menus for a Window
[04:24] <t2mkn> ok i did, off and on back again
[04:24] <t2mkn> did that too, but no window menu is shown
[04:25] <gioantrekminh> check: in the menu bar
[04:25] <t2mkn> done
[04:25] <gioantrekminh> if didn't work: restore Behavior settings
[04:25] <gioantrekminh> ok ?
[04:26] <gioantrekminh> goodluck!
[04:26] <t2mkn> no its not working even after restore
[04:27] <gioantrekminh> now you try restart your computer
[04:28] <Rhombix> hi, came earlier about an issue i'm suddenly getting with external hdds. every time i try to use Safely Remove Drive, the drive auto mounts itself after a few seconds. removing it from within Disk Utility gives me an error "Device is busy", unless i unmount it and then remove it, which just makes it remount again.
[04:28] <Rhombix> no amount of rebooting has helped. i'm doing some major achiving right now, and running into a mounting error is not helping...
[04:29] <t2mkn> gioantrekminh: restared several times now
[04:30] <gioantrekminh> open terminal and input : sudo -i
[04:30] <gioantrekminh> press your password
[04:30] <gioantrekminh> and press: reboot now
[04:34] <t2mkn> done but no as usual
[04:43] <Rhombix> re: i've read a lot of online comments that simply unmounting the drive is enough to be able to unplug without any damage, but with an HDD, with the LED still switched on, is that really true? i have to be sure here.
[04:45] <gbell> If the drive is indicating activity (via the LED), and those are writes,  you don't know if they've gone to the physical disk yet.  They could be in cache.  Unplugging then would lead to data loss, and possibly filesystem corruption.  Always unmount :)
[04:47] <t2mkn> sudo apt-get install indicator-applet-appmenu indicator-applet-session
[04:47] <t2mkn> solved the menubar issue
[04:47] <t2mkn> but still i am unable to see any installed apps while searching for
[04:48] <AvatarA> Rhombix, if the unmount succeeded then the writes should have been flushed to the partition
[04:49] <Rhombix> gbell, AvatarA: thanks. so if i unmount and wait a little bit, i can be sure that i won't cause any damage?
[04:49] <oats_> Python repl breaks my terminal
[04:50] <twank> just in here to say thanks for Linux
[04:50] <AvatarA> as soon as it shows success you should be OK
[04:50] <twank> thanks to you all it has come so far
[04:50] <oats_> Should I file a bug report somewhere?
[04:50] <AvatarA> but that is for a partition
[04:50] <AvatarA> don't know what you mean about unmounting a drive
[04:50] <AvatarA> what did you write to unmount the whole drive?
[04:50] <gbell> Rhombix: By the time the unmount command comes back to the prompt, you should be OK.  Reading through the chat history, it seems that something was automatically mounting the drive.  So you have a tougher problem.  But something automatically mounting the drive shouldn't be writing to it right away...
[04:52] <Rhombix> gbell: is was all fine until a few days ago. i'm archiving, so doing a lot of writing, switching drives, checking for errors etc. it looks like i've changed a setting somewhere, so external drives remount themselves after being Safely Removed
[04:52] <Rhombix> ^it was
[04:53] <gbell> Can you switch out of Unity/Nautilus to something simpler that won't try to do a bunch of user-friendly stuff behind the scenes?  Like fluxbox?
[04:54] <Rhombix> gbell: well, on the advice i'm getting online i've tried using commands like udisk, but getting the same problems
[04:55] <AvatarA> i would drop to a root shell and use the even simpler mount and umount commands if I would want to be 100% sure
[04:58] <Rhombix> AvatarA: i can unmount a drive, but i'm prevented from doing a safe removal. since i'm handling my backup disks i can't afford to let anything get damaged, so i don't want to just unplug. i need to find out what is making the drive remount itself automatically.
[04:59] <AvatarA> are you trying to backup the drive where you're booting from?
[05:01] <stepvenston> hi i just bought a vps, how can i connect to the SSH through tor?
[05:02] <Rhombix> AvatarA: i'm using USB hard drives. usually, i can unmount them, but i can also use Safely Remove to power them down properly. but now, if i try to use Safely Remove, the drive mounts itself again after a few seconds.
[05:03] <momentus> stepvenston: google it, there's lots of guides on there
[05:04] <stepvenston> I have been and I have meet alot of dead end ive read a guide for putty and it doesnt work
[05:05] <stepvenston> i dont really want the ssh over webservice those seem sketchy
[05:05] <momentus> you will need to in order to setup ssh as hidden service
[05:06] <olligobber> I'm trying to make a startup disk of xubuntu using an ubuntu machine and got this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12236366/
[05:06] <momentus> you need tor to listen on localhost:22
[05:07] <AvatarA> Rhombix, try to look in /var/log and maybe you will find what is causing the remounts
[05:07] <stepvenston> i have tor listening and i route all my requests through it, but i cant figure out how to route ssh through it
[05:08] <stepvenston> my tor listens on like 9365 or something :p
[05:08] <AvatarA> should be 9150
[05:08] <stepvenston> might be it, been a while since i visited the config
[05:08] <stepvenston> is their software i should be looking for?
[05:08] <momentus> yes and you need to have vps tor listening on the sshd port
[05:09] <Rhombix> AvatarA: thanks, i'm try that
[05:09] <Rhombix> ^i'll
[05:10] <AvatarA> if your version of Ubuntu is using systemd, you could "journalctl -f"
[05:10] <t2mkn> is their any way to fix all broken .desktop files in /usr/share/applications/
[05:10] <t2mkn> ?
[05:10] <olligobber> t2mkn, what do you mean by broken?
[05:10] <t2mkn> desktop-file-validate /usr/share/applications/*.desktop
[05:10] <t2mkn> shows a lot of error
[05:11] <t2mkn> i am unable to see any app listing Unity dash
[05:11] <olligobber> t2mkn, reinstalling is always a good option :P
[05:11] <t2mkn> what to reinstall ?
[05:11] <olligobber> t2mkn, everything, try one thing first though
[05:12] <t2mkn> u mean the whole OS ?
[05:12] <olligobber> t2mkn, open one of the .desktop files in a text editor and have a look
[05:12] <t2mkn> ok
[05:13] <olligobber> t2mkn, is cheese.desktop there?
[05:13] <olligobber> t2mkn, actually, open gedit.desktop
[05:14] <olligobber> t2mkn, then paste the contents onto paste.ubuntu.com
[05:16] <t2mkn> olligobber: its a 14.04 server installation
[05:16] <t2mkn> with minimal ubuntu-desktop install
[05:16] <t2mkn> nothing else
[05:16] <t2mkn> all seems to be broken this way
[05:17] <olligobber> t2mkn, ok, what .dekstop files are there?
[05:17] <olligobber> *desktop
[05:22] <OneM_Industries> Hey, does Ubuntu 14.04 support UEFI?
[05:22] <olligobber> OneM_Industries, yes
[05:23] <olligobber> OneM_Industries, not by default, you have to set it up
[05:23] <daftykins> olligobber: that's total rubbish, you just boot in EFI mode and you're good to go
[05:23] <daftykins> there's no 'setup' required.
[05:23] <daftykins> OneM_Industries: ^
[05:23] <daftykins> !efi
[05:23] <daftykins> see there for more.
[05:23] <OneM_Industries> Hm, so say I had installed without UEFI, and I am upgrading to a mobo with UEFI.
[05:24] <daftykins> right...
[05:24] <OneM_Industries> Would that work?
[05:24] <daftykins> well it's gonna keep booting legacy if it's installed as such
[05:24] <J3ll0W>  /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER J3ll0W nackgaafgxbt
[05:24] <daftykins> EFI systems are capable of legacy boot for the most part
[05:24] <olligobber> daftykins, I thought you had to tell ubuntu where the uefi partition was
[05:24] <daftykins> olligobber: no
[05:24] <olligobber> J3ll0W, password change time \o/
[05:25] <J3ll0W> lol just fukn round
[05:25] <daftykins> OneM_Industries: you could convert the installation, as in the link above, but there's no benefit to changing anything - it'll just work
[05:25] <OneM_Industries> Ok, thank you.
[05:25] <daftykins> J3ll0W: inappropriate language for here :)
[05:25] <J3ll0W> fukn != inappropriate language
[05:25] <OneM_Industries> I am doing a kid in a candy store type thing with newegg mobos.
[05:25] <olligobber> daftykins, well thanks for correcting me I guess
[05:26] <daftykins> OneM_Industries: why are you changing board?
[05:26] <OneM_Industries> Just looking right now.
[05:26] <OneM_Industries> Trying to be prepared for an upgrade.
[05:27] <daftykins> what?
[05:27] <OneM_Industries> Also, I have my eye on this one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157358
[05:27] <OneM_Industries> For the future.
[05:27] <t2mkn> olligobber: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12236398/
[05:27] <OneM_Industries> I like thinking about 10 steps ahead with my computer stuff, saves time in the long run.
[05:28] <daftykins> that is a foolish statement
[05:28] <daftykins> i don't touch AMD - so you'll have to entertain ##hardware with that one :)
[05:28] <OneM_Industries> I am not upgrading right now, if that is what you mean.
[05:28] <olligobber> t2mkn, can you show me python3.4.desktop please?
[05:29] <OneM_Industries> I only use AMD, but the manufacturer doesn't matter so much as the specs.
[05:29] <OneM_Industries> Anyway, I have to go.
[05:29] <OneM_Industries> See you!
[05:30] <Kirito_> Can someone please tell me what in gods name Ubuntu's horribly broken package manager is doing here? https://pastebin.mozilla.org/8844501
[05:30] <daftykins> Kirito_: you might want to dial back the distro hate
[05:30] <nimble> the same package manager debian uses?
[05:30] <daftykins> it's fine for most other folk, so likely the issue lies with the person feeding it instructions :) bear that in mind
[05:30] <t2mkn> olligobber: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12236408/
[05:31] <daftykins> and you're using aptitude which isn't standard
[05:31] <Kirito_> I'm sorry. Ubuntu / debian / apt / aptitude
[05:32] <Kirito_> I've spent the last 15 minutes trying to get a simple Apache installation working using either. This is clearly a packaging issue.
[05:32] <olligobber> t2mkn, it appears to be identical to my copy... maybe try one that you know doesn't work?
[05:32] <daftykins> no, it's a you issue
[05:32] <Kirito_> Sure it is.
[05:32] <daftykins> you tried to run "aptitude <package>" :)
[05:32] <daftykins> also still using precise is a bit of an odd choice
[05:32] <nimble> Kirito_, it looks like libapache2-mod-xsendfile requires 2.2 but you installed 2.0
[05:33] <atralheaven_> Hi, Something is wrong with my system :| its acting weired sometimes, sometimes ubuntu becomes slow, that I can't even close programs,
[05:33] <atralheaven_> and when I try to go to terminals beside gui with alt+f2-3 etc sometimes it doesn't go, and sometimes login is so slow that before asking me to type password I pressed ctr+alt+del to restart,
[05:33] <nimble> and unfortunately it's flagged as an error now so you might need to clear it first
[05:33] <gshmu> pssh mussh etc which better for you?
[05:33] <atralheaven_> one time, I was watching movie (with vlc), and at one second everything freezed, I couldn't even go to terminals, I had to power off my laptop manually! my hardware is fine, I have lenovo z500 6gig ram, core i5, why should this happen?
[05:33] <atralheaven_>  I'm not running anything heavy on my system, I hadn't this problem before on ubuntu, or with arch, sometimes when I try to find something (ctr+f) on gedit, if the text is "a little" long (not more that 10kb) it freezes,
[05:33] <atralheaven_>  it can be because of gedit itself, but what about whole system slow downs? btw I think my laptop battery is still being used much more than it should be when I put it on sleep.
[05:34] <Kirito_> nimble, thank you, I didn't notice it wasn't registering apache2.2 above.
[05:34] <daftykins> atralheaven_: "free -m | pastebinit"
[05:34] <nimble> Kirito_, np
[05:34] <atralheaven_> sorry I had to split my pm into several pms
[05:34] <atralheaven_> ok I will put it on pastebin
[05:34] <daftykins> Kirito_: so remember, a good workperson never blames their tools.
[05:35] <nimble> well, it is actually a bug
[05:35] <nimble> for some reason when he installs the generic 2.0 package the libapache-mod-xsendfile package requires 2.2
[05:35] <nimble> the issue is he can't resolve it without first sorting out the issue with dpkg
[05:36] <olligobber> at what point is it acceptable to restate my question?
[05:36] <daftykins> did you find a bug?
[05:36] <nimble> daftykins, look at his log
[05:37] <nimble> he installs apache2 and the version of libphp* that it selects requires 2.2
[05:37] <nimble> the part where he got caught up is when he went to install apache2.2
[05:37] <daftykins> olligobber: ah, waste of time - use 'dd' to put the ISO on the flash drive instead.
[05:37] <nimble> it's already flagged the libphp package
[05:37] <t2mkn> olligobber: check this with all error files, and one .desktop context as in their. http://paste.ubuntu.com/12236421/
[05:37] <olligobber> daftykins, never used dd before
[05:37] <daftykins> nimble: we don't know what's coming from a PPA though do we
[05:38] <daftykins> anyway too late to read that log in detail :)
[05:38] <daftykins> olligobber: know your flash drives device name? e.g. /dev/sdx
[05:38] <olligobber> daftykins, yes, /dev/sdd
[05:38] <daftykins> olligobber: sudo dd if=/path/to/.iso of=/dev/sdd bs=2M
[05:38] <olligobber> daftykins, ty
[05:39] <phantom> hello
[05:39] <nimble> well, that's possible
[05:39] <olligobber> t2mkn, unfortunately I don't have a copy of that .desktop file, but nothing appears to be wrong with it...
[05:40] <nimble> Kirito_, do you have any PPAs installed?
[05:40] <olligobber> t2mkn, have you recently upgraded the machine or something?
[05:41] <t2mkn> yes it is
[05:41] <t2mkn> not maching, its a virtual machin installation
[05:41] <t2mkn> fresh one
[05:41] <Kirito_> ppa:ondrej/php5-5 on this box apparently, I didn't realize that was enabled
[05:41] <daftykins> yep so PPAs trash all standards
[05:41] <daftykins> a release as old as precise, is gonna work
[05:41] <phantom> woooaaaaa
[05:41] <LaughingMan01> quitate
[05:42] <LaughingMan01> a la verga
[05:42] <t2mkn> then what else can be a reason for the issue. "no app display in unity search"
[05:42] <LaughingMan01> TE quieres reir ferny
[05:42] <daftykins> LaughingMan01: English only thanks.
[05:42] <LaughingMan01> sorry
[05:42] <LaughingMan01> man
[05:42] <LaughingMan01> lol
[05:42] <olligobber> t2mkn, you could manually correct all of those error messages
[05:43] <olligobber> t2mkn, a lot of them aren't actual errors, just warnings
[05:44] <t2mkn> let me do one thing. remove all those .desktop files who have error. well i will move them to somewhere else
[05:44] <olligobber> t2mkn, I suggest rebooting if you haven't already
[05:45] <t2mkn> i have rebooted a lot of time now
[05:45] <t2mkn> evon just now i did.
[05:45] <olligobber> t2mkn, always worth checking
[05:45] <olligobber> now I'm getting an error when unmounting a drive...
[05:46] <olligobber> oh...fixed it XD
[05:49] <olligobber> daftykins, that worked by the way, thanks <3
[05:49] <daftykins> np
[05:55] <jak2000> when i try: apt-get update i get this error, how to fix? "E: Unable to synchronize mmap - msync (5: Input/output error)"
[05:56] <daftykins> jak2000: is this a VM or VPS of any kind?
[05:59]  * onepolar hello everyone
[06:00] <onepolar> is there any suggestion to run twitter for terminal?
[06:00] <onepolar> *from
[06:00] <onepolar> now im use twidge
[06:01] <onepolar> is there any opninion?
[06:01] <onepolar> im newbie here
[06:01] <onepolar> ^_^
[06:01] <daftykins> never touched it
[06:02] <t2mkn> olligobber: just to inform moving .desktop who have errors did not worked
[06:02] <olligobber> t2mkn, I didn't think it would
[06:03] <olligobber> t2mkn, none of the errors in that list should cause those symptoms afaik
[06:04] <t2mkn> how can i let unity to remove all its catch and try to build a fresh now list of installed apps?
[06:04] <Asta666> heeey is it possible to install the liquorix kernel and nvidia drivers 304 on ubuntu 14.04?
[06:04] <daftykins> alternative kernel, never heard of it - so that one's on you
[06:04] <daftykins> once you put on a modded kernel it ceases to be ubuntu
[06:05] <olligobber> t2mkn, I think your best option is a reinstall
[06:06] <t2mkn> reinstall is not a fix. before i reinstall i should know, why its happening.
[06:07] <olligobber> t2mkn, something is wrong with your .desktop files, reinstalling should put in the correct .desktop files
[06:08] <t2mkn> i did moved all .desktop files who have error to else where. but
[06:08] <t2mkn> that did not fixed
[06:08] <t2mkn> so problem is else where
[06:08] <olligobber> t2mkn, the issue is that broken or missing .desktop files won't show up in the panel
[06:10] <t2mkn> missing .disktop files dont show in panel fine, but those who has no error and are there, they should apear. after all i removed all error files
[06:10] <olligobber> t2mkn, which ones don't have errors?
[06:10] <t2mkn> if no error it should show up something right
[06:10] <t2mkn> i had shown u a list
[06:10] <t2mkn> all those
[06:11] <t2mkn> and now while ching it gives no errors except some worning
[06:11] <olligobber> t2mkn, ok, so I'm wrong, chromium should atleast show up...
[06:11] <t2mkn> yap
[06:12] <olligobber> t2mkn, does typing stuff in the search bar help?
[06:12] <t2mkn> evon i should be able to find gedit, terminal and alike
[06:12] <t2mkn> no thats the issue, it dont display anything, its not evon searching
[06:12] <olligobber> t2mkn, gedit had a warning
[06:12] <t2mkn> except online stuff from wikipedia
[06:13] <t2mkn> ya worning not error so it should be ok
[06:13] <olligobber> t2mkn, something along these lines? https://askubuntu.com/questions/103708/ubuntu-dash-is-blank-how-do-i-get-the-apps-back
[06:14] <olligobber> t2mkn, maybe this https://askubuntu.com/questions/125843/dash-search-gives-no-result?lq=1
[06:15] <penos> is ubuntu gnu?
[06:16] <daftykins> a distribution consists of the Linux kernel and lots of GNU tools - so most distributions can be said to be GNU + Linux
[06:22] <t2mkn> olligobber: wala i fixed
[06:23] <t2mkn> unity-leans-applications was missing
[06:23] <t2mkn> also unity-leans-files
[06:23] <daftykins> *lens
[06:23] <t2mkn> ya lens
[06:23] <daftykins> did you maybe remove them all for the paranoia angle about the amazon stuff?
[06:25] <t2mkn> they are their
[06:26] <daftykins> well someone removed 'em ;)
[06:31] <atralheaven_> anyone has any suggestion on my problem?
[06:35] <t2mkn> atralheaven_: whats your problem. i missed may be
[06:36] <atralheaven_> its here: http://pastebin.com/03pVPCEZ
[06:38] <atralheaven_> t2mkn: maybe not having a swap partition is causing the problem, but it shouldn't be causing things like this! 6gig ram is enough for what I do with my laptop, I don't use any "heavy" program
[06:38] <geirha> atralheaven_: I don't know, but my main suspect would be the graphics card driver
[06:38] <atralheaven_> when I switched to terminal (alt+f2 I think)
[06:38] <olligobber> t2mkn, never would have thought of that, good work
[06:39] <atralheaven_> there was something repeating
[06:39] <atralheaven_> I don't remember its name, but it could be something about graphic card, like nvidia
[06:40] <atralheaven_> nuveau
[06:40] <atralheaven_> I see now, its still there!
[06:40] <atralheaven_> nouveau*
[06:40] <t2mkn> olligobber: thanks :) i liked the issue, and i learned something. :)
[06:40] <geirha> that's the open source driver for nvidia graphics cards
[06:40] <daftykins> atralheaven_: asked for "free -m" ages ago
[06:41] <t2mkn> atralheaven_: what exectly is happening? when u open terminal whats happening.
[06:41] <t2mkn> repeated key strokes ?
[06:41] <t2mkn> continues
[06:41] <atralheaven_> oh I have a bad memory about changing graphic card driver, I switched to nvidia tested! driver, and everything broke
[06:42] <t2mkn> everything broke, but what broke ?
[06:42] <t2mkn> system not starting ?
[06:42] <t2mkn> not booting
[06:42] <t2mkn> bad resolution
[06:43] <t2mkn> or anything else
[06:43] <daftykins> atralheaven_: ...
[06:43] <daftykins> t2mkn: read the paste
[06:44] <t2mkn> ooo i had missed that. ok reading. lets see.
[06:44] <daftykins> atralheaven_: and in the meantime, can you pastebin "free -m" like i asked? :)
[06:44] <daftykins> over 1 hour ago in fact.
[06:45] <olligobber> daftykins, probably read what you said as "paste bin your question" rather than "run this command"
[06:46] <daftykins> olligobber: no
[06:46] <t2mkn> atralheaven_: have u tried to change tty when it hungup. and see the running process which is may be using 100% cup ?
[06:46] <atralheaven_> sorry I had to restart :|
[06:46] <atralheaven_> I missed your pms
[06:46] <daftykins> atralheaven_: and in the meantime, can you pastebin "free -m" like i asked an hour ago? :)
[06:46] <atralheaven_> I sure
[06:47] <atralheaven_> I went to tty to see the text that was repeating, and I was locked there
[06:47] <daftykins> so you're getting kernel errors huh?
[06:48] <atralheaven_> let me show you
[06:48] <t2mkn> ya lets see
[06:48] <daftykins> i want the output of what i asked for first.
[06:48] <daftykins> before you drag this out for another hour :)
[06:48] <atralheaven_> sure, just a second
[06:49] <atralheaven_> I responded that time, in a pm
[06:49] <daftykins> to who o0
[06:52] <daftykins> !pm
[06:52] <daftykins> :)
[07:12] <atralheaven_> it seems that I've disconnected, if anyone has respond after my pm, please send it again to me
[07:16] <Halelujah> Why i get these errors? I have NO SOUND
[07:16] <Halelujah> [   14.304044] snd_hda_intel 0000:00:14.2: Codec #0 probe error; disabling it... [   14.407563] snd_hda_intel 0000:00:14.2: CORB reset timeout#1, CORBRP = 0 [   15.412033] snd_hda_intel 0000:00:14.2: Codec #1 probe error; disabling it... [   15.515421] snd_hda_intel 0000:00:14.2: CORB reset timeout#1, CORBRP = 0 [   15.515440] snd_hda_intel 0000:00:14.2: no codecs initialized
[07:19] <Halelujah> WHAT IS WRONG WITH UBUNTU?
[07:19] <Halelujah> nothinG WORKING
[07:21] <Halelujah> My sound is not WORKING
[07:25] <Halelujah> My stupid sound is not working
[07:25] <Halelujah> .....
[07:28] <megamaaaan> hey guys, question. does this mean i dont have access to the trash folder? http://i.imgur.com/HLRl85x.png
[07:28] <atralheaven_> Halelujah: I don't know very much, im not an expert, but I try my best to help, there are things to try, was it like this when you installed ubuntu? or this happened later?
[07:28] <Halelujah> yes
[07:29] <Halelujah> clean instsall no sound, atralheaven_
[07:31] <atralheaven_> megamaaaan: open an terminal and try this: cd /home/megm/.local/share/Trash/files/
[07:31] <momentus> Halelujah: do you know the name of your audio device? does it show up when you type <lspci>
[07:32] <Halelujah> momentus: 00:14.2 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA)
[07:32] <atralheaven_> Halelujah: open terminal, type alsamixer
[07:32] <atralheaven_> see if master is muted?
[07:32] <Halelujah> atralheaven_: cannot open mixer: No such file or directory
[07:33] <atralheaven_> what's your ubuntu version?
[07:34] <atralheaven_> I don't know if ubuntu uses alsa as default, im on 14.04 and I have it by default
[07:35] <atralheaven_> you're using kde right? I don't have kde now, have you checked the sound settings? found out any useful information there?
[07:37] <Halelujah> atralheaven_:  no Lubuntu
[07:38] <atralheaven_> Halelujah: what about this: pulseaudio --start
[07:38] <atralheaven_> enter in terminal
[07:39] <Halelujah> N: [pulseaudio] main.c: User-configured server at {4058b9552bd24a11ac9287cfbc7edc11}unix:/run/user/1000/pulse/native, which appears to be local. Probing deeper.
[07:40] <zzo38> I installed the Amoebax package at first I could not figure out how to set control of both players to the same keys, but now I figured it out!
[07:42] <dookie69> hello?
[07:42] <dookie69> Anybody know of the ebook channel?
[07:42] <Halelujah> atralheaven_:  ok im done with ubuntu on this pc
[07:43] <atralheaven_> Halelujah: im not expert in linux at all, when I installed arch linux, I learned that there are several sound systems in linux, I've worked with alsa, I think we should frist find out what is your sound system now, and check the settings, it seems its not alsa, and its pulseaudio
[07:43] <megamaaaan> atralheaven_, worked
[07:43] <zzo38> (How you do it is you can edit the ~/.config/amoebax/options.conf to edit it, you can also edit the high-scores in this way, and delete high scores)
[07:43] <atralheaven_> don't give up! it can be solved easily
[07:44] <atralheaven_> megamaaaan: so you can go to that directory in terminal? without sudo?
[07:45] <atralheaven_> is your home directory in a different partition?
[07:46] <atralheaven_> Halelujah: I can't send respond to you, it seems you left, if you're here tell me, we can try somethings
[07:48] <megamaaaan> atralheaven_, yes. the error only comes when i try to delete a file from the file explorer: dolphin
[07:49] <megamaaaan> rm command works fine
[07:51] <atralheaven_> can you check the permissions that are set to the trash folder?
[07:51] <gshmu> how to stop the xrdp startup with boot?
[07:51] <iso26> testing
[07:52] <gshmu> get it $ update-rc.d xrdp.sh remove
[07:54] <mota> ubuntu 15.04 feels extremely slow under hyper-v on windows. Can anyone suggest best practice to make it more responsive?
[07:54] <atralheaven_> gshmu: I don't know what is it, but it maybe configured with systemd
[07:55] <atralheaven_> mota: I think you should install htop (or use top) and check what makes it slow
[07:57] <TomyWork> mota might just be missing paravirtualization drivers. have you checked that?
[07:57] <TomyWork> i can only help you with the theory, but google "hyper-v linux paravirtualization drivers" or something like that
[07:58] <TomyWork> I have a laptop with a screen attached via a DVI port on a docking station. For some reason if i maximize a window that's entirely on the laptop screen, it ends up maximized on the DVI screen. here's my xrandr output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12236751/ - I notice there is a VIRTUAL1 display that I can't identify.
[07:58] <mota> atralheaven_: it is fresh installed, all defaults
[07:58] <mota> TomyWork: my understanding was that they are part of the kernel now, no need for manual installation?
[07:59] <TomyWork> this is an nvidia binary driver. i tried nouveau first, but that crashed the display server right when i attached the monitor
[07:59] <XChrtgraktag> Hello
[07:59] <TomyWork> mota maybe not the hyper-v ones
[08:00] <TomyWork> there used to be a -virtual kernel
[08:00] <TomyWork> see if you got that
[08:00] <TomyWork> uname -a or something
[08:01] <atralheaven_> mota: it shouldn't actually happen, so something is wrong, Im just trying to check things that can be causing it, but of course its only the things that I know, problem can be because of something that I don't know
[08:02] <bishops> anyone knows why tombox (on android) synchronizes only read-only notes from tomboy files stored in dropbox?
[08:03] <atralheaven_> you can try "ls -l"  or "stat -c "%a %n" /yourdirectory" to check if the permissions are fine
[08:03] <atralheaven_> megamaaaan:
[08:04] <atralheaven_> mota: sorry I mentioned you wrong!
[08:04] <atralheaven_> megamaaaan: it shouldn't actually happen, so something is wrong, Im just trying to check things that can be causing it, but of course its only the things that I know, problem can be because of something that I don't know
[08:04] <atralheaven_> megamaaaan: you can try "ls -l"  or "stat -c "%a %n" /yourdirectory" to check if the permissions are fine
[08:05] <mi11k1> hey, i just switched to ubuntu, well kodibunu actually, can somebody look at this dmsg and tell me what i should resolve? http://pastebin.com/vG3xbpLU
[08:06] <mota> uname -a reports the generic kernel
[08:08] <atralheaven_> megamaaaan: and this may help too: http://askubuntu.com/questions/124554/how-to-resolve-permission-denied-when-emptying-the-trash  - the last respond on the page
[08:10] <mi11k1> i always used debian, is firmware-atheros and ralink included?
[08:13] <mota> OK. seems that I need to apt-get install linux-virtual  ...and reboot after? does this seem correct?
[08:15] <mota> qexit
[08:15] <jackhum> so i posted my question on SO , but no one have yet cared to answer it , please help http://askubuntu.com/questions/667465/acpi-call-command-in-rc-local-is-not-being-executed-in-14-04
[08:18] <matthew> hey guys
[08:19] <jackhum> i want to run a command as root as soon as possible of startup of system
[08:19] <Guest44222> hmm
[08:19] <Guest44222> what the
[08:19] <Guest44222> h
[08:20] <mota> how can I force apt-get to use ipv4? right now it is failing via ipv6 and I don't want to troubleshoot that; I just want to work around it
[08:21] <vonsyd0w> mota, google is your friend http://unix.stackexchange.com/q/9940/33396
[08:23] <vonsyd0w> also since 12.04, there is no difference between the virtual and standard kernel: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq#What_are_the_differences_between_the_server_and_virtual_kernels.3F
[08:23] <mota> vonsyd0w: tried the accepted solution there and it is still using ipv6
[08:26] <mota> proof: http://i.imgur.com/7DHAkub.png
[08:26] <megamaaaan> atralheaven_, thanks ill try, its not a huge deal anyways
[08:27] <mota> oh, ha. typo on my part. working now
[08:30] <megamaaaan> atralheaven_, just to let you know, deleting all files in ~/.local/share/Trash solved the problem
[08:31] <atralheaven_> megamaaaan: there is a terminal tool for emptying trash, you can use it too,
[08:31] <atralheaven_> thats good
[08:31] <atralheaven_> I'm glad you solved it!
[08:36] <megamaaaan> atralheaven_ thanks for the help
[08:50] <MikeLa> hey room
[08:50] <dw1> how do you do
[08:50] <MikeLa> has anyone had that encryption, ransom ware
[08:50] <MikeLa> any great tools for that
[08:50] <dw1> no, because don't open dumb stuff :]
[08:51] <MikeLa> lol
[08:51] <dw1> no
[08:51] <MikeLa> a customer has it
[08:51] <MikeLa> just saying
[08:51] <MikeLa> helping out
[08:51] <dw1> if it's done right i don't think you can break it
[08:51] <vonsyd0w> hope you have backups
[08:51] <MikeLa> yes have backups
[08:51] <dw1> format C:
[08:51] <MikeLa> yip
[08:52] <vonsyd0w> restore from backups, problem solved
[08:52] <MikeLa> looks like that is the next option
[08:53] <MikeLa> 4bit coin to get decrypt they say
[08:53] <MikeLa> lol, a little funny this
[08:55] <MikeLa> what anti virus do you guys use on ubuntu
[08:55] <ira_> none
[08:55] <vonsyd0w> never have, probably never will
[08:55] <dw1> jus don't open dumb stuff :D
[08:56] <MikeLa> lol, again with the dumb stuff
[08:56] <dw1> AV only catches viruses that have already been found :/
[08:56] <dw1> i'm sure a good haxor can fly under the radar :p
[08:57] <dw1> false sense of security, no substitute for not opening dumb stuff :D
[08:57] <aaaaaa> aa
[08:58] <MikeLa> yip
[09:05] <rick_> Hi All, I want install ubuntu 14.04 server edition on a emmc based system. How do I make ubuntu 14.04 support EMMC storage?
[09:05] <ikonia> emmc ?
[09:05] <rick_> I know I need to build driver into kernel or as module, but don't know how to make it work with the install disc.
[09:05] <rick_> ikonia,  yes, emmc, such sdhci driver
[09:06] <ikonia> ahhh the chip stuff
[09:06] <ikonia> sorry - I had EMC in my head conflicting
[09:06] <ikonia> there is the option to load additional "drivers" in the installer,
[09:07] <ikonia> however I've not used that for a LONG time, so I'm not sure how it's accessed these days
[09:07] <aaaaaa> cc
[09:08] <ikonia> rick_: ahhh you do it as part of an OEM install
[09:08] <aaaaaa>  
[09:08] <ikonia> they have changed the layout/process on the server install
[09:08] <ikonia> hang on, let me dig out an example
[09:08] <Furai> I know it's kind of pointless to ask here but I need to run VM with windows on my ubuntu desktop. I need it only for one specific programme. Is there some lightweight distro of windows and software to run vm? (I imagine that virtual box would be the best choice.)
[09:08] <ikonia> Furai: ##windows is the correct channel
[09:09] <ikonia> rick_: use this http://askubuntu.com/questions/6499/provide-driver-on-removable-media-during-installation an the OEM install manual, and you should be able to put something together
[09:10] <Furai> ikonia, ok.
[09:13] <rick_> ikonia, Thank you! I miss the OEM guide...
[09:13] <ikonia> rick_: I didn't think that's where it would be, but it is, seems a bit of a long way of doing, it, but that's how it works now
[09:14] <akik> Furai: you can check wine hq if wine is able to run your application in linux
[09:15] <akik> Furai: https://appdb.winehq.org/
[09:19] <aaaaaa> ping
[09:20] <ikonia> aaaaaa: what do you want ?
[09:20] <ikonia> aaaaaa: you keep saying random things, either state what you want or please stop
[09:20] <MrElendig> Furai: what program?
[09:21] <Furai> MrElendig, really obscure one.
[09:21] <Furai> ASProtect
[09:21] <MrElendig> "software protection"....
[09:22] <MrElendig> aka "trow away your money and get nothing back"
[09:23] <MrElendig> strange that people have not realised that tools like that doesn't actually work
[09:24] <MrElendig> the only way to actually protect your code is not not give it to anyone in the first place, aka run it as a service instead
[09:24] <Furai> MrElendig, I got on mature game project which was using it for registration.
[09:24] <Furai> So yeah, it's not perfect solution but it works.
[09:24] <MrElendig> Furai: too bad it takes <2 mins to break it
[09:25] <MrElendig> using off the shelf tools
[09:26] <MrElendig> asprotect was broken over a decade ago :D
[09:27] <Furai> Game is from over a decade ago.
[09:27] <Furai> Soldat.
[09:27] <Furai> :
[09:27] <Furai> :P
[09:28] <erkules> ahoi is there a repo with actual systemd pakages? (15.04)
[09:28] <ikonia> erkules: main
[09:28] <ikonia> it's in main, it's the default init system now
[09:29] <erkules> ikonia: in main it is v119. I was looking for v225
[09:30] <ikonia> erkules: then no
[09:30] <erkules> ikonia: ok
[09:30] <ikonia> erkules: changing the systemd version would be a huge risk,
[09:30] <erkules> ikonia: agree
[09:37] <MrElendig> erkules: if you want to play with 225, spin up arch or exherbo in a vm or dualboot
[09:37] <MrElendig> erkules: both have vanilla 225 (not patched to hell)
[09:45] <mota> vonsyd0w: fyi. I did read that link you gave; to me it seems to say that there *are differences between virtual and generic kernels
[09:48] <erkules> MrElendig: thx
[09:49] <atralheaven_> guys! what should I do? what is causing this problem?
[09:49] <MrElendig> erkules: due to patching and sillyness it might be non-trivial to bump systemd to 225 yourself in ubuntu
[09:50] <erkules> MrElendig: good point. thx
[10:18] <tnkhanh> can I pause when running a command in terminal?
[10:18] <isagar> which file is responsible for disabling usb port ?
[10:21] <auronandace> tnkhanh: most likely no, unless the command specifically supports it in some way
[10:23] <SPLENDID> hi!
[10:24] <SPLENDID> Im having trouble installing the latest XUbuntu.
[10:24] <SPLENDID> I installed it all fine but it doesnt boot. Says Kernel Panic.
[10:24] <cfhowlett> SPLENDID, details --> answers
[10:24] <SPLENDID> I found this topic: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2228437&page=2&s=d062815a1b72ebcd6007421570f93203
[10:24] <SPLENDID> So Im trying to solve it this way right now.
[10:25] <SPLENDID> I chrooted my HD but after the chroot, my DNS doesnt work and I dont know how to fix it. Any ideas?
[10:26] <atralheaven_> does anyone have any idea about my problem??
[10:28] <auronandace> atralheaven_: maybe you should restate your issue
[10:28] <atralheaven_> http://pastebin.com/03pVPCEZ
[10:29] <atralheaven_> https://www.dropbox.com/s/i8a1nk9vuw465l7/CAM00109-1.jpg?dl=0
[10:30] <atralheaven_> this is what was repeating on tty
[10:31] <auronandace> atralheaven_: tried using the nvidia driver instead of nouveau?
[10:32] <atralheaven_> I've tried it before the problem, it broke up my system, I don't want it happen again!
[10:34] <gogereaver> bo
[10:34] <atralheaven_> if I use intel graphic card, will this be solved? my laptop has two graphic cards, intel and nvidia,
[10:34] <gogereaver> dont you need bumblebee for dual ggpu
[10:34] <cfhowlett> atralheaven_, worth trying.
[10:34] <atralheaven_> guys sorry I have to go please write what you think I should do, I read them when I was back, I will be back soon
[10:35] <cfhowlett> gogereaver, bumblebee is for AMD is it not?
[10:36] <gogereaver> cfhowlett, nivida as well
[10:39] <gogereaver> cfhowlett, nivida optmious on the offical driver should work to
[10:39] <gogereaver> cfhowlett, problem with these is they dont support efi
[10:39] <cfhowlett> gogereaver, I've been very happy with nvidia-prime thus far
[10:40] <gogereaver> cfhowlett, waent atralheaven_ asking
[10:40] <gogereaver> wasent
[10:43] <TomyWork> I have a laptop with a screen attached via a DVI port on a docking station. For some reason if i maximize a window that's entirely on the laptop screen, it ends up maximized on the DVI screen. here's my xrandr output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12236751/ - I notice there is a VIRTUAL1 display that I can't identify.
[10:43] <TomyWork> this is an nvidia binary driver. i tried nouveau first, but that crashed the display server right when i attached the monitor
[10:43] <SPLENDID> cfhowlett: lies.
[10:45] <gogereaver> TomyWork, sounds like you have display mirror on
[10:46] <TomyWork> gogereaver hmm there was display mirroring at the login prompt
[10:46] <TomyWork> but it went into this broken state when i logged in
[10:46] <gogereaver> TomyWork, just set display 2 as a extended with the diffrent rez
[10:47] <gogereaver> TomyWork, should fix you
[10:47] <TomyWork> which tool would you use to do that?
[10:47] <gogereaver> TomyWork, i dont run unity si i cant walk you threw that but simopply display settings
[10:47] <TomyWork> i dont run unity either :)
[10:48] <TomyWork> this is kubuntu 14.04
[10:48] <gogereaver> TomyWork, xfce?
[10:48] <TomyWork> KDE's display configuration tool is crap now since a couple of versions ago
[10:48] <gogereaver> TomyWork, well in whereever kde has display settings you should see both monoters
[10:48] <TomyWork> it's all drag-and-droppy
[10:49] <TomyWork> i already tried fixing it with that. didnt work
[10:49] <gogereaver> TomyWork, just change the second ones rez
[10:49] <TomyWork> dragged the monitors alongside each other and it stayed like this
[10:50] <TomyWork> they have different resolutions
[10:50] <gogereaver> TomyWork, you wanna mirror or exend
[10:50] <TomyWork> i want 2 screens on which i can each maximize a different application
[10:56] <gogereaver> TomyWork, found it uncheck unify outputs
[10:57] <gogereaver> TomyWork, that should give you a extended second rather then clone
[10:58] <TomyWork> that's the old KDE display configuration panel
[10:58] <TomyWork> the one that was useful
[10:58] <gogereaver> TomyWork, go figure
[10:58] <TomyWork> this new one is just rubbish
[10:59] <TomyWork> http://i.stack.imgur.com/D6tLL.png that's what it looks like
[11:02] <TomyWork> xrandr --output eDP1 --auto --output DP-0 --auto --right-of eDP1 <-- this should do what i want, but it doesnt. it just leads back to the broken mode i described in my original question
[11:02] <gogereaver> TomyWork, i think you click that box
[11:02] <TomyWork> there is no checkbox
[11:03] <TomyWork> what's xfce's display configuration utility called?
[11:03] <gogereaver> TomyWork, you running a amd card catlyst can do it
[11:03] <TomyWork> nvidia
[11:03] <gogereaver> TomyWork, nivida as well
[11:04] <gogereaver> TomyWork, just use the nivida contole panel the change the mode
[11:04] <TomyWork> oh, there is such a thing :D
[11:04] <gogereaver> TomyWork, :)
[11:05] <TomyWork> hmm, it doesnt detect the laptop display
[11:06] <vbotka> TomyWork, xfce4-display-settings
[11:06] <ren0v0> Hey, i have a .deb file that is meant to be a plugin for firefox, what would/should one do to install it? I mean i know how to install the package, but would there be additional steps?  http://www.hikvisioneurope.com/portal/index.php?dir=Software/02%20%20%20Web%20Components/Multi-brower%20web%20video%20componet%20for%20linux%20v3.0.3.9%20build120630_en/ubuntu%2010.04/
[11:06] <cfhowlett> !packaging | ren0v0
[11:06] <gogereaver> vbotka, hes running kde and trying to switch his  externel display to extended
[11:06] <arussel> how do I disable Ctrl-Alt-Fx keybing in 15.04 ?
[11:07] <gogereaver> vbotka, they changed things as always
[11:07] <ren0v0> cfhowlett, does that really answer my question?
[11:07] <cfhowlett> ren0v0, you coded this package???
[11:08] <ren0v0> cfhowlett, no, its supplied by Hikvision, a very large camera manufacturer
[11:08] <ren0v0> as seen in the link above
[11:08] <cfhowlett> ren0v0, my mistake.
[11:08] <cfhowlett> ren0v0, dpkg -i foo.deb       is the normal install method
[11:08] <ren0v0> just not sure what i'm supposed to see if you know what i mean, i've installed it, but nothing changed in firefox, it still says "cannot find plugin"
[11:09] <EriC^^> ren0v0: dpkg -L <package name> lists the files it has (package name not filename)
[11:09] <cfhowlett> ren0v0, might want to ask the packager for support.  sorry.
[11:09] <ren0v0> EriC^^, dpkg-query: package 'webcomponents-3.0.3.9.deb' is not installed
[11:09] <ren0v0> weird
[11:10] <EriC^^> try webcomponents
[11:10] <EriC^^> (not the filename)
[11:10] <lukas__> hello
[11:10] <sai> how to use my gmail calendar handle using python language ?
[11:11] <cfhowlett> sai, ask ##python?
[11:11] <ren0v0> EriC^^, http://pastebin.com/if1hNc7P    Any idea if firefox should be picking these files up or anything, or should i be telling firefox to see them ?
[11:12] <EriC^^> ren0v0: they look like libraries
[11:12] <ren0v0> EriC^^, i know this isn't totally ontopic, but the "developer" is next to useless!
[11:13] <ren0v0> and there are no docs, just wondering if someone experienced could spot how i should be "installing"
[11:13] <gogereaver> TomyWork, you can install kde-workspace-randr and get the old config back
[11:14] <EriC^^> ren0v0: did you try restarting firefox? worth a shot
[11:15] <gogereaver> TomyWork, seem the one there using now is still a ealy version
[11:15] <ren0v0> EriC^^, yea. Just wondering should firefox be finding these libs or should i be telling it how to find them?
[11:15] <EriC^^> no idea
[11:16] <EriC^^> try dpkg -i webcomponents...deb
[11:16] <EriC^^> maybe it explains about it
[11:16] <TomyWork> yay that's the old display properties dialog
[11:16] <EriC^^> ren0v0: dpkg -I not -i
[11:17] <gogereaver> TomyWork, :)
[11:17] <ren0v0> EriC^^, Linux i386   this could be an issue
[11:18] <ren0v0> Ok so, 32bit VM to test it i guess
[11:21] <gogereaver> TomyWork, seems kde still uses the old one but kubuntu decided to be diffrent and use a early replacment
[11:21] <TomyWork> hmm, no luck with kde-workspace-randr either. still this broken state
[11:21] <gogereaver> TomyWork, /
[11:21] <subhojit> how to download a youtube video using the terminal?
[11:22] <TomyWork> refer to their terms and services about whether you are allowed to do that, first of all
[11:22] <gogereaver> subhojit, look up cli youtube
[11:22] <EriC^^> subhojit: youtube-dl <link>
[11:23] <EriC^^> youtube-dl -x --audio-format mp3 --audio-quality 128K <link> if you just want the mp3
[11:23] <cfhowlett> EriC^^, l33t skillz!!
[11:23] <EriC^^> :p
[11:23] <gogereaver> TomyWork, i muse be old to be stumped by such a issue lol
[11:27] <NicholasCage> Has anyone encountered a problem with one of the latest updates for 14.04 that Banshee opens itself and the crashes? .. I've been trying to solve this problem all day and I've asked forums and consulted ye ole google for it as well
[11:27] <NicholasCage> but no dice I'm afraid
[11:29] <Amoz> NicholasCage, tried open it from the shell to catch the crash?
[11:32] <MrElendig> NicholasCage: run from a terminal, optionally in gdb
[11:32] <MrElendig> works best with debug symbols installed
[11:33] <aaaaaa> 'a'
[11:34] <tnkhanh> .title https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hT_nvWreIhg
[11:35] <tnkhanh> !title https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hT_nvWreIhg
[11:35] <subhojit> well thanks for the help
[11:42] <arussel> how do I disable Ctrl-Alt-Fx in 15.04 ?
[11:42] <TomyWork> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1400893
[11:42] <TomyWork> (didnt read it)
[11:42] <TomyWork> arussel  this may be what you want
[11:44] <karl_> hey is someone running 15.04 with a r8168 ethernet modul?
[11:44] <arussel> I can't find where it says how to disable the keybinding
[11:45] <dzejms> Got a pure symlink for dotfiles that can run on mac & ubuntu ?
[11:45] <lotuspsychje> karl_: best to ask your issue on it
[11:48] <lotuspsychje> karl_: check your syslog and dmesg perhaps
[11:50] <NicholasCage> MrElendig: sure, can make the ehr.. output verbose or like .. debug it somehow?
[11:50] <MrElendig> strace, gdb
[11:51] <MrElendig> requires debug symbols to be useful
[11:51] <MrElendig> arussel: man xorg.conf
[11:52] <MrElendig> arussel: man -P "less -p DontVTSwitch" 5 xorg.conf  to be exact
[11:53] <Azure-Dimension> Is there a channel related to shell-scripting?
[11:54] <cfhowlett> Azure-Dimension, #bash perhaps?
[11:54] <Azure-Dimension> Thank you sir.
[11:54] <cfhowlett> happy2help!
[11:54] <NicholasCage> MrElendig: How would I go about to debug Banshee through terminal?
[11:55] <oosaiofwnofiwne> Hi There. I try to install ubuntu on the new macbook 2015. Since the hardware is quite new, I need the kernel 4.2 R8. I have tried to update my usb stick to that kernel on another system, but than it does not boot anymore :( can anyone tell me how to upgrade the kernel on the usb stick? (i have tried ubuntu 15.10 beta 1....
[11:55] <lotuspsychje> !kernel | oosaiofwnofiwne
[11:55] <cfhowlett> beta?  BETA?  and you expect it to work?
[11:56] <oosaiofwnofiwne> Actually the beta works perfect :)
[11:57] <oosaiofwnofiwne> I know that there is a fix for the keyboard issue on 4.2 R8. Since the keyboard is not working, you can not fix the issue on the computer. you need to fix it already on the boot stick  .....
[12:06] <NicholasCage> Banshee keeps giving me this error http://sprunge.us/WRUL
[12:06] <lotuspsychje> NicholasCage: upgrade your system to 14.04.3 first
[12:07] <lotuspsychje> !info banshee
[12:07] <lotuspsychje> !info banshee trusty
[12:07] <e01> hi
[12:08] <e01> how can i make a new device that will be mounted somewhere from RAM as ramdisk, and after restart to remember what is saved on it
[12:08] <e01> i need it just to move the LAMP stack + the IDE and maybe browser on it
[12:11] <arussel> MrElendig: is 15.04 using xorg ? I don't have a xorg.con
[12:11] <arussel> f
[12:12] <root____8> hi
[12:12] <root____8> im arian
[12:12] <root____8> how are you?
[12:12] <lotuspsychje> root____8: you have joined an ubuntu channel, only support questions here
[12:13] <root____8> ok hello all
[12:13] <root____8> im arian how are you?
[12:13] <root____8> ??
[12:13] <lotuspsychje> !ot | root____8
[12:14] <root____8> are you robot?
[12:14] <bazhang> root____8, no chat here
[12:14] <bazhang> root____8, whats your ubuntu support issue
[12:15] <bazhang> root____8, if none take chat elsehwere please
[12:15] <root____8> oh im have create irc server! how to do?
[12:15] <bazhang> ask in #freenode root____8
[12:15] <bazhang>  /join #freenode root____8
[12:16] <root____8> ok thank
[12:21] <mijk> hi, I upgraded to wily from vivid and on boot up it stays on "A start job for Network Manager Wait Online" indefinitely
[12:22] <lotuspsychje> mijk: #ubuntu+1 for wily issues
[12:31] <bodie_> Does anyone know of a really nice Pomodoro timer compatible with Unity?  I adore the Gnome pomodoro timer but it's not compatible with Unity (obviously) and the only Unity ones I've found are pretty lousy
[12:32] <Bernzel> Is there a way to correct the keyboard input when vnc controlling a mac? Every key is in a different place..
[12:32] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:33] <k1l_> bodie_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/158261/is-there-a-pomodoro-app-available
[12:33] <lotuspsychje> Bernzel: be carefull with vnc, use vnc over ssh instead
[12:34] <Bernzel> lotuspsychje why?
[12:34] <bodie_> k1l_, sadly the only good one on that list imo is the first answer, but: > You can use this extension in GNOME shell
[12:34] <lotuspsychje> Bernzel: vnc is a security flaw
[12:34] <bodie_> meh
[12:34] <bodie_> thanks
[12:35] <lotuspsychje> !vnc | Bernzel
[12:35] <ChaTlaieX> Hello
[12:35] <k1l_> bodie_: i used one with unity and it was ok. so if you want a better solution you might need to make that or help others to do it.
[12:35] <lotuspsychje> ChaTlaieX: welcome, what can we do for you?
[12:36] <Bernzel> ubottu , thanks! I have no clue on how to set up a SSH server though
[12:36] <ChaTlaieX> What GUI you can recommend me ? What is better gnome,kde ,unity ? What you like the most ?
[12:37] <lotuspsychje> !ssh | Bernzel
[12:37] <k1l_> ChaTlaieX: different users different opinions. just use them and see what is best for you
[12:37] <lotuspsychje> !flavors | ChaTlaieX your choice really
[12:39] <ChaTlaieX> Some people say that if i learn qt i should start from KDE
[12:39] <k1l_> ChaTlaieX: that is not related to the desktop you use
[12:40] <mrtakdeniz> hey there
[12:40] <olligobber> any idea where I'd ask for network printing issues on ubuntu?
[12:40] <mrtakdeniz> i cut files from my computer to flash drive
[12:40] <mrtakdeniz> and saw the files
[12:40] <lotuspsychje> ChaTlaieX: ask yourself if you need a lightweight or full desktop all the rest is a flavor choice
[12:40] <mrtakdeniz> then i eject drive and plug again
[12:40] <mrtakdeniz> but there were no files
[12:41] <mrtakdeniz> on flash drive, and neither on my computer
[12:41] <mrtakdeniz> where are these files?!
[12:41] <lotuspsychje> olligobber: ask your issue here in the channel please for more luck on solving
[12:41] <olligobber> mrtakdeniz, it might not have ejected properly
[12:41] <olligobber> mrtakdeniz, try using file restore services
[12:41] <mrtakdeniz> i just plug out
[12:41] <lotuspsychje> mrtakdeniz: try ctrl+h for hidden files maybe?
[12:42] <mrtakdeniz> i tried file restore, 2 months ssd but restoration didn't work
[12:42] <mrtakdeniz> i mean, not any of flash drive's file..
[12:42] <lotuspsychje> mrtakdeniz: with wich tool?
[12:42] <mrtakdeniz> tried file restore on hard drive
[12:42] <olligobber> ok, I'm trying to connect to a hp printer that is pluggend into a tplink router from my ubuntu machine
[12:42] <mrtakdeniz> a script lotuspsychje
[12:42] <lotuspsychje> !info testdisk | mrtakdeniz sudo photorec after install for restore
[12:42] <mrtakdeniz> photorec
[12:42] <mrtakdeniz> lotuspsychje, yeah, photorec and testdisk
[12:43] <lotuspsychje> mrtakdeniz: if photorec cant find your data is gone mate :p
[12:43] <mrtakdeniz> gone to where?!
[12:43] <olligobber> mrtakdeniz, do it on the drive you cut the files from as well
[12:43] <lotuspsychje> mrtakdeniz: could be usb malfunctioning hardware
[12:43] <mrtakdeniz> i did on ssd olligobber
[12:43] <mrtakdeniz> but as i told, none of files appear
[12:43] <lotuspsychje> mrtakdeniz: wich brand of ssd?
[12:43] <mrtakdeniz> i can see at least images on flash recovery
[12:43] <mrtakdeniz> samsung lotuspsychje
[12:44] <mrtakdeniz> but none of them on ssd recovery
[12:44] <lotuspsychje> mrtakdeniz: wich type?
[12:44] <olligobber> mrtakdeniz, then they're gone
[12:44] <mrtakdeniz> evo lotuspsychje
[12:44] <mrtakdeniz> olligobber, ok i got it, they gone, but to wherE?!
[12:44] <lotuspsychje> mrtakdeniz: wich evo number
[12:44] <mrtakdeniz> lotuspsychje, 250
[12:44] <lotuspsychje> mrtakdeniz: 840 or 850?
[12:44] <mrtakdeniz> lotuspsychje, sorry, 850
[12:45] <lotuspsychje> mrtakdeniz: data loss on ssd is very rare, you sure you scanned whole ssd with photorec?
[12:45] <mrtakdeniz> not whole ssd lotuspsychje , just ubuntu part
[12:45] <mrtakdeniz> i mean home folder
[12:45] <mrtakdeniz> home folder part-
[12:45] <lotuspsychje> mrtakdeniz: you need to scan full
[12:45] <olligobber> mrtakdeniz, might I recommend, when ejecting a flash drive on ubuntu, make sure the eject button disappears before physically removing the device, to avoid future data loss
[12:46] <mrtakdeniz> olligobber, yeah, i will next time :\
[12:46] <mrtakdeniz> lotuspsychje, let me try it..
[12:46] <mrtakdeniz> lotuspsychje, i want to ask that
[12:46] <mrtakdeniz> i did not removed files, just moved
[12:46] <mrtakdeniz> will they come back on rescue?
[12:46] <olligobber> mrtakdeniz, moving files is the same as copying and then deleting more or less
[12:47] <mrtakdeniz> oh ok olligobber :)
[12:47] <mrtakdeniz> one of my friend suggested gparted recovery, i'm waitin for it now
[12:47] <mrtakdeniz> after that, i'll use same script on whole ssd
[12:47] <lotuspsychje> mrtakdeniz: script?
[12:48] <mrtakdeniz> testdisk and photorec lotuspsychje
[12:48] <ePirat> I am having a problem with my bluray drive using ubuntu, the status always says it has no disk, even if it has one
[12:48] <lotuspsychje> mrtakdeniz: just do a manual photorec full hd scan
[12:48] <mrtakdeniz> no need for testdisk?
[12:48] <lotuspsychje> mrtakdeniz: no testdisk will test the drive
[12:49] <lotuspsychje> mrtakdeniz: photorec for the data recovery
[12:49] <mrtakdeniz> do you know the full disk scan command for photorec?
[12:49] <mrtakdeniz> photorec /d ?
[12:49] <lotuspsychje> mrtakdeniz: you need to browse after sudo photorec from terminal
[12:50] <lotuspsychje> mrtakdeniz: and select the whole partition/hd
[12:50] <TomyWork> i have an nvidia optimus problem i think. nouveau crashes if i connect an external monitor, nvidia driver doesnt even show the monitor if in intel mode. in nvidia mode i get some strange kind of extended desktop where everything goes to the external monitor when maximized
[12:50] <lotuspsychje> mrtakdeniz: i recovered data from far away ages with photorec
[12:50] <lotuspsychje> TomyWork: ubuntu version?
[12:51] <TomyWork> kubuntu 14.04
[12:51] <lotuspsychje> TomyWork: you installed nvidia-prime right?
[12:51] <TomyWork> the "driver manager" thingy did, yes
[12:51] <mrtakdeniz> lotuspsychje, thanks, it is on work
[12:51] <mrtakdeniz> waiting for it
[12:51] <TomyWork> i dont even need 3d acceleration
[12:51] <lotuspsychje> TomyWork: did you try other drivers on the list
[12:52] <TomyWork> lotuspsychje 4 of 5
[12:52] <lotuspsychje> mrtakdeniz: it will restore file.00645 files on your /home now
[12:53] <blind> Hey, when updating my kernel to 3.13.0-62-generic, I see a message: "Unable to find an initial ram disk that I know how to handle. Will not try to make an initrd." -- that sounds bad, what should I do here...?
[12:53] <lotuspsychje> TomyWork: can you tell wich drivers show in additional driver list?
[12:53] <TomyWork> 4 nvidia drivers and nouveau
[12:53] <lotuspsychje> TomyWork: wich numbers of nvidia plz
[12:53] <TomyWork> 340, 340-updates, 346, 346-updates
[12:54] <lotuspsychje> TomyWork: try the 340 + nvidia-prime enabled to performance mode perhaps
[12:54] <TomyWork> ok i cant get out of intel mode anymore
[12:54] <lotuspsychje> TomyWork: did you uninstall nouveau?
[12:54] <TomyWork> it displays a dialog box with an ok button but without text if i try
[12:54] <TomyWork> lotuspsychje nope
[12:55] <lotuspsychje> TomyWork: try uninstall that first
[12:55] <lotuspsychje> TomyWork: or select the 340 in your list + reboot
[12:55] <TomyWork> doing that now
[12:55] <TomyWork> 340 non-update right?
[12:56] <lotuspsychje> TomyWork: well its a test, whatever driver works best for your system
[12:57] <TomyWork> i do remember blacklisting nouveau at some point a few years ago
[12:57] <TomyWork> not on this machine though
[12:57] <lotuspsychje> TomyWork: yeah optimus cards are bit searching for best layout
[12:57] <OhThatsWhy> Whats happening in Ubuntu at the moment ?
[12:58] <lotuspsychje> !details | OhThatsWhy
[12:58] <OhThatsWhy> bye
[12:58] <k1l_> OhThatsWhy: a lot. next question please
[12:58] <TomyWork> in your ubuntu? several millions of bits are probably being pushed around each second
[12:59] <TomyWork> rebooting
[13:04] <root____8> hi
[13:04] <root____8> hi
[13:04] <root____8> hi
[13:04] <root____8> im back
[13:05] <cfhowlett> root____8, stop hitting the <enter> key.
[13:05] <root____8> what?
[13:05] <blind> Hey, when updating my kernel to 3.13.0-62-generic, this broke my system. Not sure exactly what happened, but when grub updated, it put /dev/loop2p1 in for the root fs. I didn't have a /dev/loop2 when i was updating the kernel.
[13:05] <root____8> i want to install irc server
[13:05] <cfhowlett> !enter | root____8
[13:05] <blind> I'm able to fix it myself, but this seems bad
[13:05] <k1l_> root____8: start with not using irc as root :)
[13:05] <TomyWork> hmm how do i figure out which video driver i'm using?
[13:06] <lotuspsychje_> TomyWork: sudo lshw -C video
[13:06] <root____8> oh
[13:07] <TomyWork> lotuspsychje_ everything not marked as "unclaimed" i guess?
[13:07] <root____8> i want to install irc server! how to do ?
[13:07] <root____8> please guid me!
[13:07] <lotuspsychje_> TomyWork: should show something behind driver=
[13:07] <k1l_> !irc | root____8
[13:07] <TomyWork> root____8 https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/irc-server.html
[13:08] <lotuspsychje_> TomyWork: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[13:08] <TomyWork> driver=i915
[13:08] <TomyWork> lotuspsychje_ do you think i can make 2 monitors work with just the intel chip?
[13:09] <lotuspsychje_> TomyWork: if your card is optimus, you should use the power of it
[13:09] <TomyWork> because i'm kinda fed up with nvidia's drivers right now and i dont even need 3d acceleration
[13:09] <TomyWork> i'm not playing any games, not rendering any videos
[13:09] <lotuspsychje_> TomyWork: you can try xrandr both screens on intel, but i would use the nvidia for sure
[13:21] <barq> When doing apt-get dist-upgrade I get Could not connect to localhost:3128 (127.0.0.1). - connect (111: Connection refused. How can I fix this?
[13:21] <TomyWork> lotuspsychje_ the screen didnt show up via dvi or display port
[13:21] <TomyWork> VGA worked, for some reason *shrug*
[13:21] <TomyWork> i'm keeping that now... wasted enough time on this problem now :)
[13:22] <TomyWork> thanks a lot for the help
[13:22] <lotuspsychje_> TomyWork: no sweat
[13:28] <AvatarA> barq, did you edit your apt sources.list ?
[13:28] <AvatarA> or are did you change your network settings to use a proxy?
[13:29] <AvatarA> *without the "are" :)
[13:42] <faucon> hi
[13:48] <lotuspsychje_> faucon: welcome, what can we do for you?
[13:50] <justatech> is there any command relevant to newview like in windows
[13:51] <faucon> I have a windows tablet can i install ubuntu i it?
[13:51] <cfhowlett> !touch | faucon, possibly
[13:51] <k1l_> justatech: depends on what newview does on windows
[13:52] <cfhowlett> justatech, assume for simplicity that we have no idea what newnview is/does.  explain
[13:52] <justatech> k1l sorry netview
[13:52] <faucon> ok thanks, will do
[13:52] <k1l_> justatech: http://askubuntu.com/questions/194642/which-command-is-linuxs-netview
[13:52] <justatech> cfhowlett command that work like netview in linux do you know
[13:53] <cfhowlett> justatech, you want the windows command?  ask ##windows
[13:54] <justatech> cfhowlett i want relevant command like that in linux
[13:55] <TJ_on_Wily> justatech, "man smbclient"
[13:55] <cfhowlett> justatech, so we've come full circle/  NO IDEA what the command does in windows so can't advise you in linux.  details ---> answers
[14:01] <sjbunpar> hello, I have a program /usr/local/.../bin/ sudo sh mdce [start | stop | restart] .. how can I install it to start when I powerup the computer? (xubuntu 15.04)
[14:01] <whitehat> hi group. running U 15.04.  trying to install chef.  complaining about deps for package chef-server-api which doesn't exist.  help.  ideas?  thank you.
[14:09] <Knight80> Hello everyone
[14:10] <Knight80> Can anybody explain to me what is Git and what it is used for?
[14:10] <cfhowlett> Knight80, wikipedia : git
[14:10] <Knight80> cfhowlett Thank you
[14:11] <ChaTlaieX> Really xD knight80 xD
[14:11] <ChaTlaieX> Could you give me some information about qt cloud, how does it work? Do i need premium account ? Can i send there my projects ? If yes how can i do it
[14:12] <Knight80> chatlaiex I don't know what it's used for, I'm new on linux
[14:13] <Knight80> All I can use is apt-get
[14:14] <k1l_> ChaTlaieX: you might want to ask that the qt cloud guys?
[14:14] <damman> Can I run 15.04 64-bit with my Acer One 14 Z1401-C9JN with a quad core 1.83Ghz processor and with a 2gb ram?
[14:14] <ChaTlaieX> Is there are any ?
[14:14] <thei0173> damman: you should be able to yes
[14:14] <lacrymology> since the update to kernel 3.13.0-58 my computer doesn't boot correctly. With some kernels I get just a black screen, with some I get an X error message, but no input (keyboard or mouse). I've got .13.0-46~62 installed, and the latest one I'm able to run is -57
[14:15] <lacrymology> no clue how to troubleshoot what's going on
[14:17] <damman> thei0173: Sir, I'm also planning to extend 2gb more of ram, but Im also looking for reasons why these manufacturers release a quad core product with 2gb ram.
[14:17] <cfhowlett> damman, with 2 gb of ram, you might lubuntu/xubuntu speedier
[14:18] <damman> cfhowlett: how about a MATE distro sir? I used Ubuntu MATE distro for my other laptop here.
[14:18] <Knight80> My computer runs Ubuntu Gnome 15.04 and it works fine...
[14:18] <reisio> !ops Tau join spam
[14:18] <Knight80> With 2GB of ram
[14:18] <reisio> no chance of that
[14:18] <damman> Knight80: How many cores do you have?
[14:19] <Knight80> damman Two
[14:19] <cfhowlett> damman, I've never MATE'd, but you can try.  easiest way, install one buntu and then install the desktop environment (DE) ONLY of the other flavors.  e.g. sudo apt install xfce4 kde-plasma lxde
[14:19] <cfhowlett> then logout, choose a flavor, login
[14:19] <Knight80> It also depends on what the user demands, of course
[14:20] <damman> Knight80: do you use 32bit or 64bit? I prefer 64 bit
[14:20] <Knight80> damman 64 bit
[14:20] <damman> cfhowlett: Thank you. I'll try that later.
[14:21] <damman> Knight80: does it runs comfortable?
[14:21] <krizoek> why is microsoft rdp faster than xrdp, thinlinc, chrome rdp, vnc.. for ubuntu?
[14:22] <damman> haha. M$
[14:22] <Knight80> damman Yes, indeed
[14:22] <sjbunpar> I'm trying to run an app on startup.. manually I do "sudo sh /usr/local/MATLAB/MATLAB_Production_Server/R2013a/toolbox/distcomp/bin/mdce start" (or stop).. I've created /lib/systemd/system/mdce.service with "ExecStart=/usr/local/MATLAB/MATLAB_Production_Server/R2013a/toolbox/distcomp/bin/mdce" and "ExecStop=/usr/local/MATLAB/MATLAB_Production_Serve
[14:22] <sjbunpar> r/R2013a/toolbox/distcomp/bin/mdce".. is that ok? Do I have to add start to ExecStart and stop to ExecStop ?
[14:22] <reisio> krizoek: I don't accept your premise
[14:23] <krizoek> it was a serious question, we can all affort both ubuntu or windows. one just cost a little money, and the other more time
[14:23] <reisio> if you compare a protocol that duplicates GUI constructs, though, instead of just streaming them in their entirety as images, you're going to get some different speeds
[14:23] <damman> Knight80: Do you swear? :D Just kiddin. Thanks for the help sir.
[14:23] <reisio> krizoek: just more time IME
[14:24] <Knight80> damman No problem :)
[14:24] <damman> Knight80: It saves my money and gave me more confidence to change this M$ Windows 8 installed OS right now. :)
[14:25] <Knight80> damman I can understand that
[14:25] <reisio> ...
[14:25] <reisio> y'know you sound like a chat bot? :p
[14:25] <damman> It's super duppperr slow, laggy with an 8 open browser windows using I.E :D
[14:26] <Knight80> reisio Who, me?
[14:26] <reisio> you need a colon
[14:27] <Knight80> I'm not a bot
[14:27] <krizoek> why is it slow damman ? in windows you can check up historical performance, ... in ubuntu you have to use time through logs...
[14:27] <damman> Knight80: Can you run Oracle Vbox with Windows XP OS VM for something like Photoshop or any Adobe Products?
[14:28] <reisio> in Windows you have to check more, 'cause it's so non-performant :p
[14:28] <Knight80> damman I don't use Windoze
[14:28] <krizoek> most performance monitors i had a hard time finding io usage and such... in windows you can browse through which uses what...
[14:28] <damman> krizoek: I check my Performance table and It's already using 1.7Gb of ram
[14:28] <cfhowlett> graphics intensive stuff cannot be faked in vbox damman
[14:28] <reisio> krizoek: so use Windows :p
[14:28] <Knight80> damman I prefer The GImp, rather than Photoshop
[14:28] <cfhowlett> this ^^^
[14:29] <krizoek> im looking for ubuntu eqvivalents, not windows. i just use it to express what i look for
[14:29] <reisio> GIMP does everything Photoshop does anyway
[14:29] <Knight80> reisio Exactly
[14:29] <reisio> krizoek: ah, sounded like you were just whining :) what is it you want? io performance?
[14:29] <damman> Knight80: Which channel can I talk about Graphics Designer with Linux Distros? Maybe if I ask about that here, I can get ban.
[14:29] <reisio> #design
[14:29] <krizoek> im looking for rdp eqvivalent firstly
[14:29] <cfhowlett> damman, #ubuntustudio
[14:29] <reisio> damman: GIMP, Inkscape, Blender, done
[14:30] <reisio> fontforge nom nom
[14:30] <cfhowlett> damman, or Fedora Design spin
[14:30] <Knight80> damman There you have it
[14:30] <Knight80> :)
[14:31] <damman> reisio: Having hard time with GIMP. I used Windows 7 with PS for a very long time.
[14:31] <Knight80> damman It's the same
[14:31] <Knight80> damman Actually, GIMP is better I would say
[14:32] <krizoek> what about paint.net ?
[14:32] <marzed> Hello all
[14:32] <krizoek> and pinta
[14:33] <damman> Knight80: Im having hard time specially for resizing the images
[14:33] <marzed> Есть русские?
[14:33] <reisio> damman: in what way?
[14:33] <Knight80> damman You mean you can't resize them?
[14:34] <krizoek> thats easy, just goto image->scale image or something
[14:34] <damman> haha. anyway, Gonna try it later in serious way of learning :D
[14:34] <reisio> marzed: not really, but maybe some English?
[14:34] <cfhowlett> !ru | marzed
[14:34] <reisio> there's nobody in -ru
[14:34] <marzed> Tnx
[14:34] <reisio> oh nevermind
[14:34] <reisio> it's just +s or some nonsense
[14:35] <damman> Thanks everyone. I really love Linux, specially Ubuntu. It gives more supports than Windows.
[14:35] <reisio> damman: what's the trouble with resizing?
[14:36] <krizoek> i find it good for most things, just not troubleshooting and rdp
[14:36] <reisio> what is it you even want rdp for?
[14:36] <krizoek> i have a giant computer that make allot of noise in another room, and i have a tiny barely usable in another as a client
[14:36] <e01> how can i make a new device that will be mounted somewhere from RAM as ramdisk, and after restart to remember what is saved on it
[14:37] <ChaTlaieX> It is strange but on qt channel there is noone to speak with
[14:37] <reisio> krizoek: just over a local network... anything including vnc should be plenty fast
[14:37] <krizoek> im on a local network, with cables yes
[14:37] <reisio> ChaTlaieX: /msg alis list *qt*
[14:37] <reisio> maybe the hardware is slow with rendering
[14:37] <krizoek> but still it lags when i scroll webpages
[14:37] <ChaTlaieX> How can i do it ?
[14:37] <reisio> any webpage?
[14:38] <reisio> might disable smooth scrolling
[14:38] <krizoek> yes, even small websites
[14:38] <krizoek> thats a good idea, let me see if i find a option for that
[14:40] <root____8> hi
[14:40] <root____8> hello all
[14:41] <krizoek> is there a smooth scrolling for xrdp?
[14:41] <reisio> be in your browser prefs
[14:41] <reisio> hi root
[14:41] <root____8> i want install irc server! hoe to do?
[14:41] <reisio> root____8: inspircd
[14:42] <reisio> in universe
[14:42] <krizoek> that didnt work reisio, i think maybe the refresh-rate is slow, the images just get chopped up while i scroll
[14:43] <reisio> try VNC
[14:43] <root____8> oh
[14:43] <reisio> or X forwarding
[14:43] <root____8> tanks
[14:43] <root____8> tanks
[14:44] <root____8> thank for your help
[14:44] <krizoek> i tried vnc too yes, i found it mostly the same
[14:44] <lmat> On https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick , it shows how to create such a USB stick
[14:45] <lmat> on Microsoft Windows, on Apple Macintosh, on Ubunut, but not on "other GNU/Linux", which is surprising to me.
[14:45] <lmat> Is it possible to 'dd' an ISO to a flash drive?
[14:45] <cfhowlett> lmat, yes
[14:45] <lmat> cfhowlett: Thanks, my friend!
[14:45] <zykotick9> lmat: yes, dd will work.  cat and cp are also options...
[14:45] <lmat> zykotick9: cat? cp?
[14:46] <nb-ben> cat iso > drive
[14:46] <k1l> lmat: depends on the iso. for ubuntu isos it works
[14:46] <lmat> oh my
[14:46] <nb-ben> just d
[14:46] <nb-ben> dd
[14:46] <lmat> I guess cat makes sense (it's the same as dd, just without the drive management)
[14:46] <lmat> but cp?
[14:46] <lmat> cp requires a file system rather than a device, no?
[14:47] <TJ-> lmat, Everything in linux is a file :)
[14:47] <zykotick9> lmat: don't cp to a file system!  cp to the device.
[14:47] <TJ-> lmat, even when it isn't
[14:48] <publio> After resizing a fs, and shrinking it's RAID partition, do you also need to run resize2fs on sda2/sdb2 to shrink them, or is it something else?
[15:14] <mindbender1> How do I set the locale so that unity session sees it and overrides any other locale setting from any other place?
[15:16] <mindbender1> I don't know why locale is returning something else when I have locale set up in /etc/default/locale
[15:17] <MrElendig> arussel: create a xorg.conf or add it to whateveryoulike.conf in xorg.conf.d
[15:35] <cellio> hi
[15:35] <cellio> is there a channel for the ubuntu phone?
[15:36] <popey> cellio: #ubuntu-touch
[15:36] <cellio> thanks
[15:37] <Ivoah> If I have ubuntu installed on my HD, can I just partition it, install windows on the partition, and expect things to work?
[15:44] <ChaTlaieX> Ivoah first you should install windows then ubuntu
[15:44] <Ivoah> :(
[15:45] <ChaTlaieX> Sory :(
[15:48] <beaver> !info lib32stdc++-4.8-dev trusty
[15:48] <beaver> o_O
[15:48] <beaver> http://packages.ubuntu.com/fr/trusty/lib32objc-4.8-dev
[15:49] <beaver> !info lib32objc-4.8-dev trusty
[15:49] <beaver> dafuq :)
[15:49] <teward> beaver: can we help you with something?
[15:49] <beaver> nope, thank you teward
[15:50] <teward> then please use #ubuntu-bots if you want to pick at ubottu's knowledge base.  Or PM with Ubottu rather than add unneeded noise in the channel.  Thank you!
[15:52] <ICantLinux> Guys, I need help.
[15:52] <ICantLinux> My mouse doesn't work
[15:52] <ira_> wireless?
[15:52] <ICantLinux> Also how do I stop a tty from fucking up whilst nobody's logged in
[15:52] <reisio> how doesn't it work?
[15:52] <reisio> fucking up?
[15:53] <NetworkingPro> Sup everyone?
[15:53] <reisio> suppah
[15:56] <NetworkingPro> Hey everyone.. Im running an openvpn server and im finding that a lot of the hosts are sending a ton of broadcast traffic which is then getting sent back to all of the other hosts.
[15:57] <NetworkingPro> Is there  way to drop certain ones?
[15:57] <NetworkingPro> would it be in "in" chain rule in iptables?
[15:59] <NetworkingPro> or the forward?
[16:02] <herrkin> hi, I have an issue with permissions on php and ubuntu, I have a project in which all of the files are chmod 755 I noticed php wrote a file with fwrite perfectly before, I made some changes, now it wont fopen the same file it did before. if I chmod 777 the project then it works, what can be wrong?
[16:02] <herrkin> chown www-data all of the files
[16:05] <MadcapJake> I have all these `NO_PUBKEY` errors when I run `apt-get update` but when I try to fix it with `sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 3B4FE6ACC0B21F32` it just says, "key unchanged" but there are all these lines of `keyblock resource /etc/apt/trusted.gpd.d/key_name.gpg: resource limit`
[16:06] <ubuntu297> can someone tell how to perform a base system only install (without gui) from the live iso? or is there some special stripped down iso that can be used? thanks in advance...
[16:07] <vvb> install the Ubuntu server.. the default ISO does not come with gui
[16:09] <ubuntuisawesome> Is it OK to dual-boot Ubuntu 15.04 with Windows 10?
[16:09] <ubuntu297> @vvb: thanks....but server has some pre installed packages... i want a bare minimum system from which i can build on... like only the minimal root file system... do u know any other such means?
[16:10] <mcphail> ubuntu297: you can run debootstrap from the live cd, but it isn'tstraightforward
[16:12] <amarjeet4131> hi
[16:12] <ubuntu297> @mcphail: thx a lot...that's excatly what i was looking for...
[16:13] <mcphail> ubuntu297: you need to create your partition and filesystem, debootstrap the base system, bind mount /dev/ /proc/ etc, chroot in, install grub and your kernel of choice, reboot and set up you users etc. Not for the faint hearted
[16:15] <ubuntuisawesome> Is it OK to dual-boot Ubuntu 15.04 with Windows 10?
[16:15] <ubuntu297> mcphail: haha..been there...have installed arch linux without internet connection..
[16:16] <amarjeet4131> any1 tell me best media player for ubuntu plzzz
[16:16] <mcphail> ubuntu297: well, enjoy! :)
[16:17] <mathi> adminmathi.in
[16:17] <ubuntu297> mcphail: thx a lot...have been searching this for days...
[16:17] <reisio> amarjeet4131: what're you used to?
[16:17] <reisio> ubuntuisawesome: sure
[16:18] <reisio> if not a bit silly—how many OSes do you need
[16:18] <amarjeet4131> m using ubuntu mate as my OS
[16:19] <amarjeet4131> so plz sugest one good media player that support all format
[16:19] <beaky> hello
[16:19] <beaky> how do i bridge wifi under ubuntu
[16:19] <ubuntu297> amarjeet4131: u could try smplayer
[16:20] <amarjeet4131> ok thanks
[16:23] <ubuntuisawesome> So, you want me to upgrade to Windows 10, and then install Ubuntu 15.04 alongside it?
[16:24] <danrik> does Ubuntu 15.04 have 4k support?
[16:24] <ubuntuisawesome> danrik: That depends on your graphics driver
[16:24] <Murfjr> ubuntuisawesome: you don't need to do that
[16:24] <danrik> ubuntuisawesome, um - I have dell M3800.
[16:25] <ubuntuisawesome> But I want Ubuntu on my system without losing Windows in any way
[16:25] <Murfjr> ubuntuisawesome: what version of windows do you have?
[16:25] <danrik> ubuntuisawesome, if I enable 3-rd party drivers - that should enable 4k right?
[16:25] <SopaXT> For some reasons I want to remove acpi_video0 from /sys/class/backlight
[16:25] <ubuntuisawesome> Murfjir: I have Windows 8.1 right now, but I am planning to upgrade to Windows 10 later
[16:25] <SopaXT> How do I do it?
[16:26] <ubuntuisawesome> SopaXT: Sounds a little bit dangerous
[16:26] <ubuntuisawesome> Don't do it
[16:26] <SopaXT> acpi_backlight=vendor does not work
[16:26] <ubuntuisawesome> Comment that line out then
[16:26] <SopaXT> ubuntuisawesome, I want to use intel_backlight as default
[16:26] <Murfjr> ubuntuisawesome: I'd upgrade to windows 10, and then install ubuntu alongside it. windows10 install may wipe ubuntu, so install it first
[16:26] <SopaXT> But it uses acpi_video0 and causes glitches, determined
[16:26] <Murfjr> also disable secureboot
[16:27] <SopaXT> So, how to make ubuntu use intel backlight
[16:28] <ubuntuisawesome> Murfjr: I have an ASUS K53E, which does not have UEFI
[16:28] <SopaXT> It uses the acpi one
[16:28] <seanh_> Anyone know why my keyboard shortcuts might have stopped working? All my custom shortcuts seemed to suddenly stop working
[16:28] <SopaXT> Please help
[16:28] <seanh_> Runnung Unity, 15.04
[16:28] <ubuntuisawesome> seanh_: Your OEM keyboard driver most likely needs to be updated, it wiped out during the installation
[16:29] <seanh_> System Settings -> Keyboard -> Shortcuts -> Custom shortcuts, they all seem to hae stopped working
[16:29] <Murfjr> ubuntuisawesome: alright, then install windows 10, and then install ubuntu. Ubuntu has a dual-boot option in Ubiquity (the ubuntu installer)
[16:29] <vonsyd0w> ubuntuisawesome, i'd backup my hdd w/ clonezilla before starting anything
[16:29] <ubuntuisawesome> I don't use any cloning software
[16:30] <ubuntuisawesome> And I am doing an in-place upgrade to Windows 10 from 8.1 using the media creation tool, not a clean install
[16:30] <vvb> I successfully installed win 10 + Ubuntu 15.04 2 days ago.. only word of advice, if you have UEFI bios, then do not use anything <15.04
[16:30] <vonsyd0w> well you should ;)
[16:30] <Murfjr> ubuntuisawesome: better safe than sorry
[16:30] <ubuntuisawesome> And my BIOS version is 2.21
[16:31] <Matt_teni> Guys I need a bit help with gtk-pod. it's like i have all the modules closed and i have no idea hwo to restore it
[16:31] <BedMan> Question: what's the best hypervisor on Ubuntu for hosting RHEL guests?
[16:31] <ubuntuisawesome> vonsyd0w: Why would Mozilla make their own HDD cloning software?
[16:31] <vonsyd0w> clonezilla
[16:31] <vonsyd0w> look it up
[16:31] <Murfjr> ubuntuisawesome: The Mozilla Foundation is not affiliated with Clonezilla
[16:31] <Murfjr> nor is it affiliated with Filezilla
[16:31] <vonsyd0w> lol
[16:32] <vonsyd0w> godzilla maybe?
[16:32] <Murfjr> vonsyd0w: I prefer mothra
[16:32] <vonsyd0w> ha! awesome
[16:34] <tompsku> My raid crash and now everything else is ok except one dir is shown as file. Is there way to fix this fsck claim that everything is ok.
[16:37] <ubuntuisawesome> What other problems would I have dual booting Windows 10 and Ubuntu 15.04 besides issues with losing WIndows?
[16:37] <ubuntuisawesome> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2015/08/canonical-to-business-skip-windows-10-use-ubuntu
[16:37] <ubuntuisawesome> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2015/08/download-ubuntu-15-10-beta-1
[16:38] <ubuntuisawesome> And Ubuntu 15.10 beta finally offers the "Plasma" desktop by default, not the Unity desktop
[16:38] <SopaXT> How do I force ubuntu to use intel backlight
[16:39] <ubuntuisawesome> tompsku: Reformat your hard drive
[16:39] <ubuntuisawesome> SopaXT: reinstall your intel chipset drivers
[16:39] <SopaXT> ubuntuisawesome, how do I
[16:39] <tompsku> "Reformat your hard drive" heh. want to save data
[16:39] <ubuntuisawesome> Should be an option to
[16:40] <BluesKaj> you won't lose windows if you install uibuntu to a separate ext4 partition. you may have some boot issues with uefi boot, but I'm sure someone here can help you with that
[16:40] <ubuntuisawesome> tompsku: Then backup as much data as possible. Sounds like your hard drive may be faling
[16:40] <ubuntuisawesome> BluesKaj: My computer was made before UEFI
[16:41] <tompsku> it was mdadm that crash or actual didn't like that disks went sleep
[16:41] <seanh_> ubuntuisawesome: Really? (I need to update my keyboard driver?) Typing is working fine, as are the standard Ubuntu keyboard shortcuts, it's just the custom shortcuts seem to be ignore all of a sudden
[16:42] <ubuntuisawesome> It's a problem with your keyboard
[16:42] <ubuntuisawesome> Maybe Ubuntu doesn't support custom keyboard buttons by default
[16:42] <SopaXT> So, how do I force the the intel_backlight?
[16:42] <SopaXT> Please help
[16:42] <seanh_> I'm not using custom buttons
[16:42] <ubuntuisawesome> And Ubuntu always gets installed as an ext4 partition
[16:43] <ubuntuisawesome> SopaXT: There should be a file relating to the backlight prefixed with ASUS
[16:43] <seanh_> Anyone else heard of this problem? Custom keyboard shortcuts stopped working
[16:44] <SopaXT> I use a Lenovo TP Edge E330
[16:44] <ubuntuisawesome> seanh_: ubuntu.launchpad.net
[16:44] <SopaXT> It has two backlight devices: intel and acpi
[16:44] <SopaXT> Acpi causes glitches, so I need to disable it
[16:45] <ubuntuisawesome> seanh_: https://bugs.launchpad.net/
[16:45] <SopaXT> acpi=0 solves the problem, but disables acpi
[16:45] <ubuntuisawesome> Go report your problem there
[16:45] <SopaXT> Already
[16:45] <SopaXT> Oops
[16:45] <Furai> Am I doing something wrong? I'm doing "chmod 644 foldername" and then the foldername becomes inaccessible.
[16:45] <Furai> Cannot cd into it.
[16:45] <Ben64> Furai: directories need to have the executable bit in order to traverse
[16:46] <Furai> That seems...wrong...
[16:46] <ubuntuisawesome> 644 = (rw- r-- r--): same as 444 except the owner can write to it.
[16:46] <ubuntuisawesome> Furai: No it does not
[16:46] <display> hi
[16:46] <ubuntuisawesome> Good afternoon sir or ma'm
[16:46] <SopaXT> So, how do I force intel backlight in Ubuntu 15.04
[16:46] <ubuntuisawesome> My location: Clio, MI
[16:47] <Furai> So, how to set the executable bit only for directories recursively without adding it to all files?
[16:47] <ubuntuisawesome> Furai: chmod +x without checking the apply recursive option
[16:47] <ubuntuisawesome> Or chmod 777
[16:48] <Ben64> Furai: find /path/to/base/dir -type d -exec chmod 755 {} +
[16:48] <ubuntuisawesome> But chmod +x is more "direct"
[16:48] <Ben64> ubuntuisawesome: please stop answering things you don't know
[16:49] <Furai> Ben64, thanks, find indeed seems the way to go.
[16:50] <ubuntuisawesome> Well, gotta go
[16:50] <Ben64> Furai: make sure you type it properly and use it on the right directory so you don't start changing the wrong things
[16:51] <BinaryMaster> Question: anyone have an idea on how to fix an audio problem? I can hear system sounds but nothing when trying to play audio from other sources for example the web, or totem movie player
[16:52] <Furai> Ben64, yeah sure. Anyway, it seems that you have stronger google powers than me. :D
[16:52] <herrkin> can anybody help me with permisions?
[16:52] <herrkin> I trully dont know what I am doing wrong
[16:52] <herrkin> php says I dont have a permission to write on a file
[16:53] <herrkin> all of the files are 755
[16:53] <herrkin> and the owner of those files is www-data:www-data
[16:53] <BinaryMaster> add www-data to the group of the file
[16:53] <herrkin> I dont know why its saying permission denied
[16:54] <herrkin> BinaryMaster, the owner is www-data:www-data
[16:54] <herrkin> so It still says permission denied
[16:55] <herrkin> if I type groups I get this
[16:55] <herrkin> root adm cdrom sudo dip plugdev sambashare lpadmin
[16:55] <herrkin> so there is no www-data group
[16:55] <herrkin> should I create it_
[16:55] <herrkin> ???
[16:55] <BinaryMaster> no
[16:55] <BinaryMaster> that is just the list of groups you are in
[16:55] <herrkin> ok what should I do?
[16:56] <BinaryMaster> check that the web server you are using is running as www-data
[16:56] <herrkin> how?
[16:56] <BinaryMaster> if its apache it should be in the config file
[16:56] <herrkin> apache2.conf?
[16:56] <BinaryMaster> thats the one
[16:57] <prossack> :q
[16:57] <prossack> edxit
[16:57] <BinaryMaster> Question: anyone have an idea on how to fix an audio problem? I can hear system sounds but nothing when trying to play audio from other sources for example the web, or totem movie player
[16:57] <SCHAAP137> BinaryMaster, try using the PulseAudio Mixer
[16:57] <herrkin> in env vars it has my user
[16:58] <herrkin> saecosoft also the group saecosoft
[16:58] <herrkin> is that weird? I didnt ever touch that
[16:58] <SCHAAP137> it allows you to define the preferred output on a per-app basis
[17:00] <herrkin> BinaryMaster, did you see? it had my username also it was the group
[17:02] <BinaryMaster> search the file for www-data
[17:05] <SopaXT> I just need to disable acpi_video0 backlight in my ubuntu
[17:10] <krabador> SopaXT, sudo gedit /etc/default/grub
[17:10] <SopaXT> Yep.
[17:11] <krabador> SopaXT, later , sudo update-grub
[17:11] <Furai> What's the best way to store mercurial repo password for http/https auth?
[17:13] <demhlyr> anyone have experience with rescuing data off of hdds? i have an ntfs formated external hdd, that got corrupted somehow. running ntfsfix doesnt work and chkdsk on windows wont do anything because it thinks it is a RAW filesystem. i get input/output error everytime trying to automount. or superblock read error sometimes in the terminal
[17:13] <SopaXT> krab, why?
[17:13] <SopaXT> I jsut cid it
[17:13] <SopaXT> *did
[17:15] <D4CH> Hello. I installed ubuntu mate, and then installed ubuntu tweak. Now ubuntu tweak is frozen on my screen. How do I end the process like on windows, or how do I stop it?
[17:18] <neet_> hello?
[17:24] <monty_hall1> how to have proxy ignore certain addrs?
[17:26] <TheMontyChrist> test
[17:26] <TheMontyChrist> better
[17:32] <KxTwo> Hey guys, I am hoping I won't get reamed too much for this considering it is not during peak traffic times.  I am looking for opinions on a solid laptop that will run ubuntu.  I have an HP with an i3 right now that has ben nothing but problems with Ubuntu.  The wireless is constantly disconnecting and I really don't like the mouse touchpad as it is intermittent.  I have been to the support page that lists known laptops that work but it is al
[17:32] <KxTwo> l done by model numbers so if I want to find the laptop with specs I like I have to click on every one.  Was hoping some one might have some suggestions?
[17:40] <donkey_boy> hi everyone, burn all jews in oven
[17:40] <donkey_boy> death to infidels
[17:40] <donkey_boy> allahu akhbar
[17:40] <anonymous_> ...
[17:40] <donkey_boy> god bless allah
[17:40] <donkey_boy> only muslims have a right to live
[17:40] <donkey_boy> i throw stones to jews
[17:40] <KxTwo> Really?  Got nothing better to do?
[17:41] <NotANick> KxTwo: just ignore the trolls
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[17:42] <donkey_boy>  burn all jews in oven burn all jews in oven burn all jews in oven burn all jews in oven burn all jews in oven burn all jews in oven burn all jews in oven burn all jews in oven burn all jews in oven burn all jews in oven burn all jews in oven burn all jews in oven burn all jews in oven burn all jews in oven burn all jews in oven burn all jews in oven burn all jews in oven
[17:42] <donkey_boy> burn all jews in oven
[17:43] <KxTwo> that was faster than I thought lol
[17:43] <KxTwo> Hey guys, I am hoping I won't get reamed too much for this considering it is not during peak traffic times.  I am looking for opinions on a solid laptop that will run ubuntu.  I have an HP with an i3 right now that has ben nothing but problems with Ubuntu.  The wireless is constantly disconnecting and I really don't like the mouse touchpad as it is intermittent.  I have been to the support page that lists known laptops that work but it is al
[17:43] <KxTwo> l done by model numbers so if I want to find the laptop with specs I like I have to click on every one.  Was hoping some one might have some suggestions?
[17:43] <HexTq> amalek u do dis
[17:46] <BenMcLean_> I updated my laptop's BIOS today and afterwards, Ubuntu won't boot! So I burned an Ubuntu live DVD and tried to run boot-repair
[17:46] <BenMcLean_> But it says "The current session is in Legacy mode. Please reboot the computer, and use this software in an EFI session. This will enable this feature."
[17:47] <BenMcLean_> What is "Legacy Mode"? How do I start an "EFI session" ?
[17:47] <KxTwo> BenMcLean_, it should be a setting inside your bios, it sounds like you have an EFI bios but have legacy turned on.
[17:47] <KxTwo> go through the settings and see if anything sticks out
[17:47] <BenMcLean> Oh I see
[17:48] <BenMcLean> So set it to UEFI
[17:48] <BenMcLean> Right. Thanks! :D
[17:48] <KxTwo> I believe so
[17:48] <KxTwo> np
[17:48] <danrik> adjusting screen for hi DPI - all I have to do is adjust scaling factor - correct?
[17:48] <BenMcLean> er ... anything else I should know before I try this KxTwo ?
[17:49] <xorz> ]lol
[17:49] <xorz> lol
[17:49] <KxTwo> BenMcLean, I am no expert and only speaking from personal experience but I do not believe you need to know anything else.  You said you updated your bios and maybe the default is set to legacy mode
[17:49] <KxTwo> If it does not work simply come back and put the question out again and some one with more knowledge will eventually respond.
[17:49] <BenMcLean> No, actually I changed it away from UEFI
[17:49] <BenMcLean> It didn't say "Legacy Mode" though. it said something that started with a "C"
[17:50] <KxTwo> EFI is supported and as far as  I know there is no reason not to use it
[17:50] <BenMcLean> will switch it. thanks. I'll be back if it doesn't work :)
[17:53] <jak2000> how to know if port 4848 is used?
[17:53] <KxTwo> "used", or "open"?
[17:54] <jak2000> glasfish use a port 4848 when i try start it say me this error: There is a process already using the admin port 4848 -- it probably is another instance of a GlassFish server. then i want to know which program is ussing this prot
[17:55] <KxTwo> Can you change the port that your program uses?
[17:55] <EriC^^> jak2000: try lsof i :4848
[17:55] <EriC^^> jak2000: try lsof -i :4848
[17:56] <jak2000> EriC^^ empty
[17:57] <jak2000> netstat -anp | grep :4848 say: tcp6       0      0 :::4848                 :::*                    LISTEN
[18:02] <wimpog> does Ubuntu have some kind of a default firewall enabled out of the box?
[18:02] <wimpog> Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS
[18:02] <baizon> wimpog: ufw
[18:02] <EriC^^> !ufw
[18:02] <baizon> wimpog: its disabled by default, you can enable it
[18:02] <wimpog> baizon: I'm trying to figure out what's blocking port 3306 (mysql)...
[18:06] <ash_work> okay, I'm a little confused as to what I just did
[18:06] <whologin> good morning
[18:07] <ash_work> I did sed '2372486,2375848d' relative/path/to/enourmouse_file
[18:07] <ash_work> which looks like it read the whole file and printed: 73337 directories, 2822246 files
[18:07] <ash_work> what the heck?
[18:07] <whologin> is there a multi-arch installer for ubuntu?
[18:10] <ash_work> Oh
[18:10] <ash_work> phew
[18:10] <ash_work> that's just the output from the operation
[18:11] <zh1> how can i make ubuntu icon bar horizontal?
[18:11] <lotuspsychje> zh1: you can autohide leftbar and install docky
[18:11] <lotuspsychje> !info docky | zh1
[18:12] <ash_work> Ooo, sed will just output to another file
[18:12] <ash_work> rather the screen, and you have to point it to a file
[18:13] <reisio> zh1: there are some solutions to that in the comments of the launchpad bug on the issue
[18:14] <zh1> reisio, what would be the specific link?
[18:14] <reisio> I don't have it handy
[18:18] <jost__> Why does (X)Ubuntu always ask me for my password in order to change my user account details after I have de-locked my screen? Happens on multiple machines....
[18:18] <jost__> Sometimes there are 5-6 password prompts open
[18:18] <MonkeyDust> jost__  because you havent set not to do that
[18:19] <jost__> MonkeyDust: what do I need to change? Why is this enabled by default? What is the reason for changing my user data?
[18:19] <zh1> lotuspsychje, on a default ubuntu the menu bar never moves on any option?
[18:20] <MonkeyDust> jost__  system settings > user accounts > unlock
[18:20] <lotuspsychje> zh1: what do you mean mate?
[18:21] <zh1> lotuspsychje, if i can move it horizontal without anything else installed? just by ubuntu options
[18:21] <lotuspsychje> zh1: there is a ppa somewhere to make unity left bar to bottom, but i would not suggest it
[18:22] <zh1> lotuspsychje, guess i always have to install something not a core option
[18:23] <lotuspsychje> zh1: once you get used to unity sidebar, it all makes sense and easy to use
[18:24] <zh1> lotuspsychje, dont know why but i never liked the bar on the left
[18:24] <lotuspsychje> zh1: you can always install something else: lubuntu/xubuntu/kde or gnome
[18:24] <syntropy> join #ubuntuforums
[18:24] <MonkeyDust> zh1  then don't use it, install a differnet DE, logout, switch, login
[18:25] <Nicholas> Hello, I have marvell raid. My friend did something and it doesnt boot to ubuntu. I go to marvell bios setups it says configure SATA as : IDE eventhough it should be raid. but I am unable to change anything in Marvell bios. What to do?
[18:25] <arussel> I'm on 15.04 and I've got a sound (bit) every 5 minutes, can't find where it comes from. How can I find out ?
[18:25] <lotuspsychje> arussel: check your syslog or dmesg logs
[18:26] <D4CH> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied)
[18:26] <D4CH> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[18:26] <D4CH> Yes I am!
[18:26] <D4CH> Why does it do that?
[18:26] <lotuspsychje> D4CH: did you add ppa's?
[18:26] <D4CH> I think I added one
[18:26] <D4CH> Where do I see that?
[18:26] <zh1> MonkeyDust, thats true but this environment here looks the easiest to use besides this it aint the lightest but... i think ubuntu dev team could add some code to the menu bar move
[18:26] <Nicholas> Hello, I have marvell raid. My" friend" did something and it doesnt boot to ubuntu. I go to marvell bios setups it says configure SATA as : IDE eventhough it should be raid. but I am unable to change anything in Marvell bios. What to do?. I suspect he erased raid config data. Is there anyway to retrive my data?
[18:26] <lotuspsychje> !ppapurge | D4CH
[18:27] <lotuspsychje> zh1: that might never happen on unity
[18:27] <zh1> lotuspsychje, any specific reason?
[18:27] <lotuspsychje> zh1: there's a logic behind it, not sure wich you can ask in #ubuntu-devel perhaps
[18:27] <zh1> lotuspsychje, most DE let you move bars, i normally use xfce or lxde and they do that, almost all do
[18:28] <D4CH> but i cannot remember which ppa it is
[18:29] <lotuspsychje> !sources | D4CH
[18:29] <arussel> lotuspsychje: can't find anything in dmesg, and no new line are added in message when the bip occurs
[18:30] <lotuspsychje> arussel: how about syslog?
[18:30] <EriC^^> D4CH: open software & sources > second tab
[18:30] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: evening mate :p
[18:30] <EriC^^> evening lotuspsychje
[18:31] <arussel> lotuspsychje: nothing, just some wlan stuff
[18:31] <D4CH> I have keepass, dropbox and chrome as ppa
[18:32] <MonkeyDust> D4CH  all that is in the repos, no need for a ppa
[18:32] <arussel> lotuspsychje: and no app running apart from emacs
[18:33] <EriC^^> D4CH: are you sure everything related to apt-get or software center is closed?
[18:33] <[Aura]MaelStrom> Hi, i was wondering: I'm running ubuntu server on a VM, and there I am running a web server, I want to access it via my host: Is it possible to create port forwarding in ubuntu, so requests to the VM's IP will be forwarded to the webserver's IP
[18:33] <lotuspsychje> arussel: its a system sound or motherboard sound?
[18:33] <EriC^^> D4CH: type ls -l /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[18:33] <arussel> it comes from the speaker/headphone
[18:34] <D4CH> -rw-r----- 1 root root 0 Aug 31 20:27 /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[18:35] <lotuspsychje> arussel: maybe browse more logs in /var
[18:35] <lotuspsychje> arussel: /var/log/..
[18:36] <lotuspsychje> arussel: can you tell us what kind of sound it is?
[18:39] <KxTwo> Hey guys, I am hoping I won't get reamed too much for this considering it is not during peak traffic times.  I am looking for opinions on a solid laptop that will run ubuntu.  I have an HP with an i3 right now that has ben nothing but problems with Ubuntu.  The wireless is constantly disconnecting and I really don't like the mouse touchpad as it is intermittent.  I have been to the support page that lists known laptops that work but it is al
[18:39] <KxTwo> l done by model numbers so if I want to find the laptop with specs I like I have to click on every one.  Was hoping some one might have some suggestions?
[18:40] <crow-bot> Hola
[18:40] <MonkeyDust> KxTwo  this is not the right place for opinions
[18:40] <lotuspsychje> KxTwo: wich ubuntu version did you try?
[18:41] <akik> i'm really happy with a 4 year old acer aspire timeline-x. ymmv
[18:41] <KxTwo> lotuspsychje, 14.04 lts, First time I had a problem with a laptop running ubuntu, for th emost part it is ok but I just don't like the touchpad and the wireless has given me a lot of troubles.  Fixes tend to only be temporary
[18:41] <crow-bot> dell is very good option
[18:42] <lotuspsychje> KxTwo: what kind of wifi chipset?
[18:42] <akik> you will get as many opinions as people replying :)
[18:43] <lotuspsychje> KxTwo: ubuntu should work fine on hp's
[18:43] <KxTwo> realtek RTL8188EE , known issue with them I guess, I just wasn't aware and must ghave been lucky with all my previous laptops.
[18:43] <lotuspsychje> KxTwo: realtek chipsets need firmware update in some cases
[18:43] <KxTwo> lotuspsychje, it is not as simple as always working with a specific brand, it is all about the hardware.  Ubuntu has a list of units it works no problem with
[18:44] <lotuspsychje> KxTwo: i would be a little more stubborn and test a second time your hp with ubuntu
[18:44] <KxTwo> lotuspsychje, I have done all that, there is an issue with this particular adapter, it loses it's signal, trust me I have done all the support side of things, even put a ticket in.  I have tried every fix that has been recommended
[18:44] <KxTwo> oi vey
[18:44] <lotuspsychje> KxTwo: and come back here until you get it fixxed
[18:44] <KxTwo> You aren't hearing me :)
[18:45] <akik> i've had nothing but problems with realtek wifi devices
[18:45] <lotuspsychje> KxTwo: do you know how many users we get here with realtek chipsets and broadcom, most get solved
[18:46] <lotuspsychje> KxTwo: if your happy about wifi you can always buy a small usb wifi adapter that performs better on your hp
[18:46] <lotuspsychje> KxTwo: but i would test realtek latest linux drivers first
[18:46] <akik> the thing i always need to do is disable the power management on wifi device
[18:47] <KxTwo> akik, most people have had issues.  I actually was working directly with one of the ubuntu guys there who just happened to be in here one night.  We went back and forth for am onth, I kept thinking the problem was solved but it came back each time.  Trust me I would not arbitrarily decide to buy a new laptop based on a minor problem I hadn't exhaustively tried to fix.  The combination of having to constantly have to reset my wifi adapter and
[18:47] <KxTwo>  my dislike for this touchpad(not sure if it is a hardware issue or just a bad design) makes me think I will just get another laptop.
[18:47] <KxTwo> trust me all of the support options that you guys are saying have been done lol
[18:47] <lotuspsychje> KxTwo: tryed bios update for your hp yet?
[18:48] <KxTwo> mother of god
[18:48] <cristian_c> lol
[18:49] <ioria> KxTwo   sorry, what kernel do you have ?
[18:50] <agbakate> so I'm trying to setup autologin. I've enabled it for my account in System Settings/User Accounts (and I looked in /etc/lightdm/ligthdm.conf.d to verify it matches this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutoLogin). when the computer starts up, I can see my desktop appear, but then it flashes and logs out. is there anywhere I can find a log of what happened?
[18:50] <KxTwo> 3.16.0.-46, and yes I tried other versions.  No I didn't try every single one as it got exhausting but that was one of the support options given to m.
[18:51] <ioria> KxTwo   seems that under 3.18 it's not going to work well....
[18:51] <agbakate> also, this used to work before a recent update
[18:51] <akik> KxTwo: did you try disabling power management on the device?
[18:51] <KxTwo> it hasn't worked well under any
[18:51] <ioria> KxTwo  and you'll anyway a custom driver
[18:51] <ioria> *need
[18:52] <ioria> KxTwo  my humble advice is to upgrade the kernel above 18 and try this git clone http://github.com/lwfinger/rtlwifi_new.git
[18:53] <KxTwo> ioria, I have tried all the various drivers/fixes offered on the support pages.
[18:53] <wileee> agbakate, The two autologin and a bad login should not be tied, can you explain a little more.
[18:53] <KxTwo> I have literally tried about 10 different "fixes".
[18:53] <agbakate> wileee: I'm watching the computer start up, I see my desktop appear for about half a second, then it flashes back to the login screen (and I verified by SSH that nobody is logged in)
[18:54] <agbakate> but when I enter my password and log in normally, it works fine
[18:54] <brunost> hi! I'm trying to recover a broken system running ubuntu server with recovery mode on a live CD and I'm kinda stuck at the root FS selection, like what device should I use as the root FS?
[18:54] <wileee> agbakate, I'm not up on ssh, strange behavior, cold it be that a desktop needs more in this circumstance?
[18:54] <wileee> could*
[18:55] <cristian_c> KxTwo: realtek drivers are often buggy
[18:55] <agbakate> needs more what
[18:55] <cristian_c> my 8821ae wifi card (released in 2013) can't work today yet (2015)
[18:55] <wileee> agbakate, If you login normally do you get a desktop, is this a ssh always?
[18:55] <KxTwo> cristian_c, yes hence why I figured to just buy a better laptop lol.  Sometimes it's not worth to keep fighting the problem.
[18:56] <lotuspsychje> KxTwo: why buy a whole new laptop if there are cheap wifi usb's out there
[18:56] <KxTwo> cristian_c, I think with my previous laptops, I just got lucky, and I made the terrible assumption that ubuntu works perfectly on everything.  In the end it is my fault for not doing research.
[18:56] <agbakate> wileee: yeah I can log in normally
[18:56] <cristian_c> KxTwo: it's also a matter of luckiness :)
[18:56] <TJ-> agbakate, logs in "/var/log/lightdm/" may help
[18:56] <agbakate> so I'm trying to figure out what conflicts with the autologin but now with a normal login, I suspected something in my .profile but seems like that would conflict with both
[18:57] <KxTwo> lotuspsychje, because I have other things about this laptop that I don't like, I really don't understand why that bothers you so much?  I can use this laptop as a windows machine, give it to some one, there are a million other things I can use it for.  I am not against buying a more powerful laptop with a better touchpad and hardware.  This thing is only an i3.
[18:57] <wileee> agbakate, To a desktop? Is this always a ssh?
[18:57] <agbakate> wileee: it's a desktop right now, though it is used headless sometimes
[18:57] <agbakate> TJ-: will look there
[18:57] <lotuspsychje> KxTwo: 'only a i3' lol
[18:58] <ioria> KxTwo   Pentium4
[18:58] <wileee> agbakate, You're not actually answering the questions, that is all right though, maybe others can help.
[18:58] <lotuspsychje> KxTwo: you come back here tomorrow asking wich hardware is reccomended for ubuntu they will say hp and dell..
[18:58] <cristian_c> lotuspsychje: different scenarios, different purposes
[18:58] <KxTwo> The outchpad either has software issues or is just not built well.  Every so often it starts scrolling or won't respond at all.  I have scrolling turned off so it might be software, not really sure.  either that or it is moisture on my fingers.  I just don't like it.
[18:59] <agbakate> wileee: I'm really trying, sorry. I guess I didn't understand the question, can you rephrase it?
[18:59] <KxTwo> lotuspsychje,  you just don't give up do you?  Not ALL hp or ALL dells will work with ubuntu.  There is an entire freaking page about all this.  The only reason I came here is to get specific model recommendations.  You have made your suggestions, why do you keep beating a dead horse?
[18:59] <TJ-> KxTwo, the touchpad issue sounds like an i8042 multiplexing issue that is known for touchpads connected via PS/2 rather than USB internal interfaces
[19:00] <ioria> KxTwo   for that maybe a kernel boot parameter
[19:00] <lotuspsychje> KxTwo: its your perception its dead, give the box to me and ill make it work
[19:00] <KxTwo> TJ-, is the problem intermittent?  I have clammy hands so wasn't sure if it was that or something else
[19:00] <agbakate> I don't know what "is this always a ssh" is supposed to mean
[19:01] <KxTwo> lotuspsychje, due you are borderline harassing me.. I have been in here dozens of time, I even had a ticket it and for a month tried working with the ubuntu guys, just let it go dude.
[19:01] <KxTwo> Though I will say if the mouse problem can be fixed I probably would just buy a usb wifi adapter.
[19:01] <TJ-> KxTwo, The problem is there is no well-kept up-to-date authoritative list of models with no issues, outside of the Canonical certified list, and even that can be wrong due to changes in the actual chipsets inside them
[19:01] <akik> KxTwo: when you go shopping for a new laptop (in mostly windows shops) you can use devmgmt.msc to check out the hw
[19:02] <TJ-> KxTwo, the internal WiFi adapters are usually mini-PCI-Express (mini-PCIe) and can be swapped out easily - once the laptop itself is opened of course!
[19:02] <lotuspsychje> KxTwo: its a free country, do what you wish but that doesnt mean your machine cantg be fixxed
[19:02] <D4CH> I have a Lenovo Laptop with a 24 gb SSD harddrive which, on my windows partition, uses it for cache. Is it possible to set up in ubuntu or does it do that automatically?
[19:03] <KxTwo> TJ-, is a hardware swap the only known fix?
[19:03] <TJ-> KxTwo, Atheros chipsets are currently regarded as the best-supported in the Linux kernel, so a replacement mini-PCIe adapter with Atheros chipset would be a good choice if you got hat route
[19:03] <cristian_c> TJ-: I confirm
[19:03] <wileee> D4CH, ubuntu uses a swap beyond ram uses, that much ram will be used.
[19:03] <ioria> KxTwo   why not a usb adapter ?
[19:03] <TJ-> KxTwo, No... at some point a driver/firmware fix will become available but it rather depends on how many people are affected and how many persist in trying to get it fixed, and whether kernel dev's get involved
[19:04] <agbakate> oy, it's worse than I thought... autologin only fails _intermittently_ :(
[19:04] <KxTwo> if I am going to start messing with hardware, might as well just buy a new laptop
[19:04] <wileee> D4CH, When needed used that is.
[19:04] <cristian_c> working , are working, apart led managing
[19:04] <MonkeyDust> agbakate   system settings > user accounts > unlock
[19:04] <KxTwo> I really thought it was just a bad touchbad design and it didn't like clammy finger tips.  Every so often my mouse just gets a mind of it's own then I have to wait it out lol
[19:05] <TJ-> agbakate, is any application set to auto-start (maybe through session state saving) that requires the password (maybe the key store agent needs unlocking to get a WiFi key out)
[19:05] <agbakate> hm
[19:05] <KxTwo> ioria, for my wifi?  Because of the second problem that is my mouse.  This is <300 dollar laptop I bought on a whim.
[19:05] <TJ-> KxTwo, if the troublesome PC is available, I'd love a look at it's kernel log. "pastebinit /var/log/dmesg)"
[19:06] <agbakate> it starts up and creates its own wifi network, so that shouldn't be an issue
[19:06] <TJ-> s/it's/its/
[19:06] <agbakate> it does start a thing in ~/.profile, but I commented that out and it was still failing
[19:06] <ioria> agbakate, yes for wifi.... for touchpad , as i said, a kernel parameter
[19:06] <TJ-> agbakate, "starts its own wifi network" - you mean it is manage mode and runs hostapd to be an Access Point?
[19:06] <KxTwo> TJ-, I am on it right now.  I was keeping los for the longest time for my wifi but I gave up on that a month or so ago.  I'll grab you what you asked for though
[19:07] <KxTwo> lotuspsychje could be right and it can be fixec but keep in mind this will now be the 5th or 6th time some one like you guys have asked to try your hand at it.
[19:07] <agbakate> TJ-: it's in AP mode, yes, but it is set up through Network Manager. I don't actually see hostapd running
[19:08] <lotuspsychje> KxTwo: never give up mate, thats the beauty of ubuntu to make a machine get a second life
[19:08] <mlvmhn> why does my system hang sometimes?
[19:08] <agbakate> but as soon as I decided to take a look at /var/log/lightdm, LightDM read my mind and stopped reproducing the problem :/
[19:08] <lotuspsychje> mlvmhn: when does it hang? ubuntu version?
[19:08] <KxTwo> lotuspsychje, you have no idea how frsutrating it has been though, I have to constatly just stop using my mouse and reset my wifi.  Trust me I was not giving up easily
[19:09] <Sedko> if your system ubuntu 14,04 i had the same issue
[19:09] <mlvmhn> yup, i has 4 gb ram, 64-bit dual core 3 .16 ghz processor
[19:09] <KxTwo> http://pastebin.com/WXfeZrnv
[19:09] <KxTwo> TJ-, http://pastebin.com/WXfeZrnv
[19:09] <mlvmhn> ubuntu 14.04 lts
[19:10] <KxTwo> but I admit I would just keep this if the mouse and wifi would stop acting up.  The mouse I was wrong about, I didn't know was something that might be fixable.
[19:10] <lotuspsychje> mlvmhn: when does it hang?
[19:10] <KxTwo> I just feel in general that this laptop should be running better, my older machiens seemed faster to be honest.
[19:10] <TJ-> KxTwo, I've just looked at the commits to the kernel's drivers/net/wireless/rtlwifi/rtl8188ee up to present and there are a lot - which might suggest that using a current mainline kernel build of v4.2 would be an excellent test of whether the issue has been resolved.
[19:10] <mlvmhn> i was watching a movie in vlc when the system frooze. nothing to do just push the power button
[19:10] <lotuspsychje> KxTwo: theres always xubuntu/lubuntu for your needs
[19:11] <backbox> hello every one
[19:11] <lotuspsychje> mlvmhn:  installed your graphics drivers?
[19:11] <agbakate> MonkeyDust: http://alexburka.com/tmp/autologin.png
[19:11] <KxTwo> TJ-, I lost all my documentation from a couple of months ago so if you want me to try something you will have to point me to directions.  I do remember when trying new kernels it was quite a process.
[19:11] <superkuh> I've tried 3 times in as many days and each time the download of the latest firefox from us.archive.ubuntu.com has been incredibly slow. Everything else from that repo mirror is fast. It is only that package. Literally 3 seconds ago I saw  progress on it literally go backwards. It hits 30% (~15 MB) then goes backwards multiple times down to 27% (~14 MB) then forward again. Something is a bit messed up.
[19:11] <mlvmhn> nope just from the box, but all works fine but it just freezes sometimes
[19:11] <superkuh> I'm just using the normal 14.04 software updater.
[19:11] <lotuspsychje> mlvmhn: can you start vlc from terminal until it freezes?
[19:12] <lotuspsychje> mlvmhn: maybe itl show relevant errors
[19:12] <TJ-> KxTwo, OK, well I must go to dinner now but I shall look at the dmesg some more when I return. Is there a bug report number on Launchpad I can refer to?
[19:12] <mlvmhn> could do, can i restore my system then without pushing the power button?
[19:13] <KxTwo> TJ-, It has been more than 30 days so I think it is closed?  Is it still useful to you?  And if so where can I find it?  I will look through my email real quick to see if I still have the email from the last guy who tried to help me
[19:13] <lotuspsychje> mlvmhn: try recoverymode or failsafe
[19:13] <backbox> i want some frish email list
[19:13] <TJ-> KxTwo, Re Wifi - I notice the dmesg shows the wifi only looks to operate 802.11n (40MHz wide channels @ 2.4GHz) - if the AP isn't also 802.11n *only* that could cause dropped connections
[19:13] <mlvmhn> well i want a stable system, perhaps i shall install something else?
[19:14] <TJ-> KxTwo, Any bug report with info attached is useful, and I can reopen bug reports
[19:14] <lotuspsychje> mlvmhn: LTS is stable mate
[19:14] <backbox> waht the fuck
[19:14] <lotuspsychje> mlvmhn:  we have to investigate whats freezing your system
[19:14] <KxTwo> TJ-, hold On I think I found it, I have a ton of emails but assumeall that info will be in the bug report, but if not can forward it to you, the number is: 1437988
[19:14] <mlvmhn> very welcome, super annoying
[19:14] <ioria> KxTwo   do you have the bug link ?
[19:14] <TJ-> KxTwo, and, the touchpad is using PS/2 connection, so the multiplex could be an issue: "psmouse serio1: synaptics: Touchpad model: 1, fw: 7.5, id: 0x1c0b1,"
[19:15] <KxTwo> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1437988
[19:15] <mlvmhn> does chrome eat up all the ram memory?
[19:15] <TJ-> bug #1437988
[19:15] <agbakate> now autologin is working, but the mouse is frozen... wtf
[19:15] <KxTwo> TJ-, so is there a software fix for these problems?
[19:15] <lotuspsychje> mlvmhn: check your logs mate, syslog,dmesg
[19:15] <backbox> you think you are a hachers
[19:15] <TJ-> KxTwo, keep an eye on your email, I've re-opened that bug report and assigned it to myself
[19:16] <backbox> fuuuck youuu
[19:16] <TJ-> KxTwo, There's an easy kernel parameter fix for the common Ps/2 touchpad issues
[19:16] <mlvmhn> well, what do i look for?
[19:16] <KxTwo> ok I will stay logged in here and try to pay attention, I am taking the day off from work cuz im lazy
[19:16] <Bashing-om> brunost: I take it that you are booted to a liveDVD, and you want to mount the install's 'root' directory in order to copy files off the install ? One can find the partitions from the pit put of ' sudo fdisk -lu ' . Under the 'boot' heading the root directory has an asterisk .
[19:16] <KxTwo> oh wow, if we can fix all of this then I guess lotuspsychje was right to push me not to buy a new laptop lol
[19:16] <lotuspsychje> !ops | backbox
[19:16] <TJ-> KxTwo, ioria might be able to help you with the i8042.XXXX parameters to try
[19:17] <KxTwo> whoa what just happened?
[19:17]  * TJ- is gone for 1/2 hour
[19:17] <tonyyarusso> !language | backbox
[19:17] <backbox> hhhhhh
[19:17] <KxTwo> this whole time I thought the problem was the touchpad itself, a bad design that needed finger tips to be 100 percent dry.
[19:18] <backbox> fuck all of you ..
[19:18] <agbakate> my /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log says "DEBUG: User /org/freedesktop/Accounts/User1000 changed" at +1.56s and again at +95.20s. in between those times, the mouse and keyboard were not working. what?
[19:18] <KxTwo> Wow two trolls in one day.
[19:19] <ioria> KxTwo   you can try one of all of this parameters i8042.reset i8042.nomux i8042.nopnp i8042.noloop , you can set them at boot , in grub, or you can edit /etc/default/grub    and sudo update-grub
[19:20] <KxTwo> ioria, so just add i8042.* to the grub file?
[19:21] <K4k> I have an Ubuntu client that authenticates against active directory using samba. I followed the Ubuntu docs for how to do this and it works well but my local user account is locked out and I'm not sure what utility to use to unlock the account. The account is unlocked in Active Directory but the Ubuntu client still says it's locked out. Neither usermode nor passwd recognize the remote username, so unlocking
[19:21] <K4k> with those tools fails.
[19:21] <K4k> s/usermode/usermod
[19:22] <ioria> KxTwo  first try at boot , before "quite splash" if it work you change grub .... another one   i8042.notimeout
[19:22] <austin6598> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/du7Zt1fd/
[19:23] <austin6598> kubuntu, i installed this and when i try to start the dameon with start onedrive-d it wont run: https://github.com/xybu/onedrive-d
[19:23] <austin6598> start: Name "com.ubuntu.Upstart" does not exist
[19:23] <KxTwo> ioria, sorry I do not mean to be obtuse but not entirely sure wha tyou are saying?
[19:24] <KxTwo> do you want me to do a command line boot from the grub menu and individually try each one of those i8042.* commands?  The problem with my mouse is intermittent, doing one at a time would be a very slow process.
[19:24] <ioria> KxTwo  when you boot, you can change  the kernel parameters ... like nomodeset ...
[19:25] <ioria> KxTwo  yes...
[19:25] <akik> KxTwo: it's a cheap price to pay if you get your laptop working
[19:25] <KxTwo> ioria, I can go hours, sometimes a day or two with no problem, would it be bad to simply add all of thos eto the grub file?
[19:26] <ioria> KxTwo  well, changing grub is permanent...
[19:26] <ioria> KxTwo  modify the line, no
[19:26] <KxTwo> ioria, I can't remove them from the file?
[19:27] <ioria> KxTwo  sure ... if it boots again  :-)
[19:27] <KxTwo> ioria, oh you are worrying about bricking it
[19:27] <neet_> hello there,may i ask some question about ubuntu studio?
[19:27] <Okitain> austin6598: you use the latest ubuntu, right? It has systemd instead of upstart. Try to find a way to migrate the daemon.
[19:27] <lotuspsychje> !studio | neet_
[19:27] <austin6598> Okitain> sorry im not that experienced so i dont really know what that means
[19:28] <ioria> KxTwo  something like that
[19:28] <KxTwo> what do I press to get to the grub screen again?
[19:28] <KxTwo> I remember having problems getting it to show up before
[19:28] <neet_> ok,i see. sorry for that!
[19:28] <ioria> KxTwo  shift, or esc
[19:28] <Okitain> austin6598: in that case, write a bugreport to the developer saying "software doesn't support systemd"
[19:28] <Okitain> austin6598: if they are still actively working on this, you will probably get your fix.
[19:29] <KxTwo> is there one of those that you recommend starting with?  the mos tlikely culprit?
[19:29] <austin6598> Okitain> what does this tell you:
[19:29] <ralph4100_> I just installed a new gpu and two new case fans and my keyboard seems to be doing strange things. random key presses seem to open the Rythmbox music player and up arrow minimizes Guake instead of finding an old command. has anyone had anything like this?
[19:29] <austin6598> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/nfVz5mba/
[19:29] <ralph4100_> I did see aux device failure in boot messages
[19:30] <ioria> KxTwo  try this "quiet splash i8042.reset i8042.nomux i8042.nopnp i8042.noloop"
[19:30] <Bashing-om> brunost: Did You miss my response ?
[19:31] <pepee> looks like this bug is back:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1359766
[19:31] <agbakate> bleh, now I am running into this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2198093
[19:31] <Okitain> austin6598: what are you trying to do?
[19:31] <pepee> I don't have swap file/partition, and when OOM happens, my system simply keeps the HDD spinning
[19:32] <austin6598> Okitain> just start the dameon. i looked at systemd --help
[19:33] <Bashing-om> ralph4100_: Did you purge the old driver prior to installing the new GPU and install the proper driver for the new GPU ?
[19:33] <Okitain> austin6598: the daemon is written for a different init system named upstart. This one is named systemd and requires different configs.
[19:33] <Okitain> austin6598: so ask the developer if they can support you
[19:34] <austin6598> ok
[19:34] <ralph4100_> I did install a new proprietary driver but don't think I purged the old one
[19:34] <ralph4100_> Bashing-om: how do I purge the old one?
[19:36] <daftykins> ralph4100_: what card?
[19:37] <Bashing-om> ralph4100_: Depends on what the old GPU was and how that driver for the old GPU was installed. We can look at what is now . ' lspci -vnn | grep -i VGA ; sudo lshw -C display ' . Maybe take a look at the log files and see what is going on ?
[19:37] <ralph4100_> daftykins: Titan X
[19:38] <KxTwo> sorry stepped away for a second
[19:38] <KxTwo> ioria, wish me luck
[19:39] <daftykins> ralph4100_: Bashing-om started helping you so i think you should continue :) nvidia card then for completeness
[19:39] <ralph4100_> Bashing-om: here is output of my lspci http://paste.ubuntu.com/12240445/
[19:40] <Bashing-om> ralph4100_: Look'n at http://paste.ubuntu.com/12240445/ .
[19:41] <ralph4100_> Bashing-om: also here is nvidia-smi if you want http://paste.ubuntu.com/12240462/
[19:41] <daftykins> ralph4100_: can i ask what you use it for? quite the expensive card that :)
[19:42] <ralph4100_> daftykins: math
[19:42] <ralph4100_> daftykins: machine learning stuff
[19:42] <daftykins> ah ok, CUDA?
[19:43] <ralph4100_> daftykins: yes exactly - actually my theano install broke too
[19:43] <ralph4100_> w/ the new card
[19:43] <daftykins> not familiar with that
[19:43] <KxTwo> ok I apparently have no idea what I am doing
[19:44] <KxTwo> I hit c to go to the command line and it said it couldn't find the commands
[19:44] <lotuspsychje> KxTwo: you need to add them manually parameters
[19:44] <ioria> KxTwo  don't remember well... i think 'e'
[19:44] <KxTwo> I'm following ioria's instructions
[19:45] <KxTwo> so Iw as in the right area at least?
[19:45] <lotuspsychje> KxTwo: <ioria> KxTwo  try this "quiet splash i8042.reset i8042.nomux i8042.nopnp i8042.noloop"
[19:45] <KxTwo> lotuspsychje, yes and at the grub menu I hit c to drop to grub command line and typed that in there, minus "
[19:46] <ralph4100_> Bashing-om: also found this line in /var/log/dmesg "4.471143] nvidia: module verification failed: signature and/or  required key missing - tainting kernel"
[19:46] <ioria> KxTwo  i think is 'e' not 'c'
[19:46] <geirha> KxTwo: 'e' to edit the current entry, and change "quiet splash" to that string
[19:47] <ioria> KxTwo  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/KernelBootParameters
[19:47] <daftykins> ralph4100_: i'd probably check which packages you have on right now, "dpkg -l | grep nvidia | pastebinit"
[19:47] <lotuspsychje> KxTwo: or try the grub way: http://askubuntu.com/questions/525629/touchpad-is-not-recognized
[19:47] <Souse> test
[19:47] <lotuspsychje> !test | Souse
[19:48] <ioria> seems it's recognized ... but not working well....
[19:48] <KxTwo> lotuspsychje, I think ioria was worried the system might not boot but that was what I was going to originally try
[19:48] <Brody1> Is anyone dual booting Windows XP on MSi wind u100
[19:48] <lotuspsychje> Brody1: ask your real question mate
[19:48] <daftykins> if anyone is still using XP they need to be shot
[19:48] <lotuspsychje> lol
[19:49] <Brody1> I'm not sure if the bluetooth isnt working or if there isnt any on it
[19:49] <Brody1> there is a bluetooth light tho
[19:49] <daftykins> check with lspci and lsusb
[19:49] <Brody1> one sec
[19:49] <lotuspsychje> !bluetooth | Brody1
[19:49] <daftykins> that means nothing, hardware can be not included
[19:49] <ralph4100_> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12240517/
[19:49] <daftykins> (could be the same shell of the machine made for other models)
[19:50] <durka42> how do I set the default wi-fi netwrk for NetworkManager to connect on startup?
[19:50] <Nikesh> So.. On my new machine `pass` doesn't use colour highlighting in it's output, but otherwise I have colour terminal enabled. Any ideas to address this?
[19:50] <Nikesh> its*
[19:50] <wileee> Brody1, Has bluetooth, http://www.pcworld.com/product/31948/wind-u100-869us-netbook.html
[19:51] <lotuspsychje> Nikesh: what kind of file you want color highlighted?
[19:51] <daftykins> ralph4100_: mmm lots of mismatched packages, i would "sudo apt-get purge nvidia* " (note the * there) then "sudo apt-get install nvidia-346" and reboot
[19:51] <ralph4100_> k - will try
[19:51] <ioria> KxTwo  sorry mate have to go... i wish you luck ...
[19:51] <ralph4100_> daftykins: if it works won't be back - if not see you in a few. either way thanks for your help
[19:52] <daftykins> np ;)
[19:52] <KxTwo> ioria, I am just going to try it through editing grub, if this works then the wireless is next, thank you!
[19:52] <ioria> KxTwo  you are welcome
[19:52] <Nikesh> lotuspsychje: I use the program `pass` to manage passwords. When I type `$ pass` it lists all of the password entries. On my old machine the entries were blue, but on this new machine they are just regular (white). I have otherwise enabled colours in my .bashrc, because `$ ls` and my propmpt `eir@anu ~/ $` show colours
[19:52] <wileee> Brody1, One gig memory however I would run a light desktop.
[19:52] <KxTwo> ok I just updated grub
[19:52] <KxTwo> now I guess I just wit
[19:52] <Brody1> What am I looking for in lspci and lsusb
[19:52] <KxTwo> lotuspsychje, any more suggestions while we wait for TJ- on the wifi?
[19:53] <daftykins> Brody1: something bluetooth related
[19:53] <lotuspsychje> KxTwo: reboot after update grub mate
[19:53] <akik> KxTwo: did you see my suggestion on the wifi power management?
[19:53] <KxTwo> akik, turning off powermanagement was one of the first things I did but thank you
[19:54] <KxTwo> lotuspsychje, ok I will reboot but what is the "update grub" do if you still need to reboot?
[19:54] <KxTwo> also I hope this doesn't brick my machine lol
[19:54] <lotuspsychje> KxTwo: update-grub updates your grub changes
[19:54] <lotuspsychje> KxTwo: then after reboot gets active
[19:54] <wileee> Brody1, Take a look at the bots bluetooth info, there is a manual lsusb listed there.
[19:54] <KxTwo> ok lotuspsychje I will brb if my machine is not a brick.  If it is I will use my phone to find out how to fix a broken grub edit
[19:55] <lotuspsychje> !recovery | KxTwo if things go wrong
[19:56] <ash_work> can you make commands where something like ~$ cmd $(prefix_*) would expand to ~$ cmd prefix_a prefix_b prefix_c
[19:56] <ash_work>  ?
[19:57] <KxTwo> Ok I am back
[19:57] <ash_work> erm
[19:57] <KxTwo> I hae been getting internal errors on reboot though, apportcheckresume
[19:57] <daftykins> ash_work: perhaps you should be in #bash :)
[19:58] <ash_work> daftykins: really? I thought that might not be technical enough of a question for #bash
[19:59] <KxTwo> lotuspsychje, it might have worked but time will tell.  All of my problems are intermittent which makes diagnosing and fixing harder lol
[19:59] <frodopwns> hey guys, i have a Dockerfile installing percona to a  ubuntu base and am getting this all of a sudden: "W: Failed to fetch http://repo.percona.com/apt/dists/trusty/main/binary-amd64/Packages  403  Forbidden"
[19:59] <TJ-> KxTwo, I've updated the bug report with recommendations on how to proceed with testing the RTL8188EE. I've noted as an intro the other problems you report together suggest there may be a fault RAM module and to do a memtest80+ run on it
[19:59] <daftykins> ash_work: doesn't hurt to ask there too.
[19:59] <frodopwns> can someone point me in a direction to troubleshoot this?
[19:59] <ash_work> daftykins: yeah :P
[19:59] <KxTwo> TJ-, oh boy
[19:59] <lotuspsychje> frop
[19:59] <daftykins> frodopwns: contact them, their repo has issues - nothing to do with Ubuntu.
[20:00] <Brody1> Does this have anything to due with bluetooth:
[20:00] <frodopwns> daftykins:  not pointing blame just seekign direction, thanks
[20:00] <KxTwo> I think I did a memtest80 before and the HP memory test and there was no problems there.
[20:00] <Brody1> one sec
[20:00] <daftykins> frodopwns: well i am... :)
[20:00] <Brody1> 02:00.0 Network controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8187SE Wireless LAN Controller (rev 22)
[20:00] <lotuspsychje> !realtek | Brody1
[20:00] <wileee> Brody1, No that is the wifi, have you read the bots message?
[20:01] <daftykins> KxTwo: hope you did at least two passes with memtest86+
[20:01] <Brody1> wileee, no what is that
[20:01] <wileee> !bluetooth | Brody1
[20:01] <KxTwo> daftykins, it was a couple of months ago but I believe i did it overnight twice.  I really don't think there is a memory issue, just a buggy wifi adapter
[20:02] <Brody1> wileee, that only goes up to 11.04 and seems to be for external bluetooth connectors.  I'm on 14.04
[20:02] <wileee> Brody1, Yes, but that is a generally good wiki, there is lots of info there.
[20:03] <Brody1> Ok. I'll keep looking. Thanks
[20:03] <daftykins> KxTwo: well it doesn't hurt to check these things.
[20:03] <daftykins> i'd rather someone run something overnight once than waste my time giving support :)
[20:03] <KxTwo> daftykins, you are right of course
[20:03] <KxTwo> daftykins, I will run memtest again tonight I have 6gb so it will take a while
[20:04] <KxTwo> it is a brand new laptop and I did do it before is the only reason I say that it is most likely not the case
[20:04] <KxTwo> I have been getting an internal error with apportcheckresume if that is meangingful
[20:05] <daftykins> i haven't followed your main issue to be honest, just saw the memtest bit :)
[20:05] <daftykins> so i don't know what's going wrong
[20:05] <Brody1> using hcitool dev returns no devices
[20:06] <KxTwo> daftykins, you have helped me in the past, it all stems from a realtek wireless adapter that intermittently drops, I have tried a bazillion fixes and the only thing I have accomplished is reducing the frequency.  Oddly enough since I have been on here today though it has not dropped
[20:08] <KxTwo> TJ just gave me something new to try though
[20:08] <daftykins> was that the one i once suggested changing router wireless channel?
[20:09] <KxTwo> daftykins, that is quite possible yes, I do remember doing that.  I actually found multiple fixes in the ubuntu support pages and thought I had fixed it but then it came back
[20:09] <KxTwo> TJ- was just looking at one of my logs and made a comment about "only n" but his email to me doesn't mention that so not sure on that one
[20:10] <daftykins> i'd have switched the card out long ago :)
[20:10] <Guest23456900> hi all
[20:10] <Guest23456900> where to find /boot/grub/menu.lst to password protect grub
[20:10] <Guest23456900> ?
[20:10] <KxTwo> daftykins, I came in here with the intent of buying a new laptop beause I also had mouse problems but got talked into trying to fix things lol
[20:11] <OerHeks> !grub
[20:11] <daftykins> KxTwo: heh ^_^
[20:11] <KxTwo> still waiting to see if the mouse fix is working as that was also intermittent
[20:11] <KxTwo> I thought the touchppad was a bad design and that the problem was that I have clammy hands but TJ-  caught that it was somethingt to do with how it was connected and had me edit my grub file.
[20:12] <TJ-> KxTwo, If the client connects and works with the AP to start will that indicates if the network is n-only, that isn't the issue. However, it could be something like when the client comes to re-key it might have changed its CRDA config to use 20MHz 802.11g channels... far-fetched, but still possible. syslog/kern.log will reveal that though
[20:12] <guntbert> Guest23456900: you are very probably on grub2 - no menu.lst any more -- see what ubottu told you
[20:12] <KxTwo> TJ-, do you still want me to try what you said in your email, I am rereading it a couple of times to get the last part but it doesn't sound too crazy
[20:13] <KxTwo> oddly enough I have NOT had any problems while on here today so waiting for a disconnect might take a while
[20:13] <CAPITANOOO> i m still lock to intall ubuntu on acer aspire m1641   and get this error acpi pcc probe failed
[20:13] <TJ-> KxTwo, If power is the issue then those tests are a very quick way to find out and fix it
[20:13] <CAPITANOOO> i ve tried mani combination of acpi=off
[20:13] <CAPITANOOO> noapic
[20:13] <CAPITANOOO> nolapic
[20:13] <CAPITANOOO> edd=on
[20:13] <CAPITANOOO> nodmraid
[20:13] <CAPITANOOO> nomodeset
[20:13] <KxTwo> so you just want me to set both those options to 0?
[20:14] <TJ-> CAPITANOOO, "acpi pcc probe failed" is NOT a problem, the kernel dev that added the PCC support forgot to remove a debugging log message. It has since been removed. Just ignore it.
[20:14] <KxTwo> also just want to point out again I have been getting the apportcheckresume internal error, if that is indicative of anything
[20:14] <TJ-> KxTwo, Yes... you have 3 tests you can do. Each option separate, then both together.
[20:14] <CAPITANOOO> TJ-: but the intallaton dosent work
[20:15] <daftykins> must be something else then :)
[20:15] <TJ-> KxTwo, apport is the crash capture and reporting too. It is worth letting it post a bug report... and added the bug number it creates to the existing bug report about the RTL, in case it is related.
[20:15] <CAPITANOOO> still locked on screeen whit dots
[20:15] <KxTwo> I might have another symptom
[20:15] <TJ-> CAPITANOOO, that won't have anything to do with ACPI PCC - that is just happens to be the last message displayed
[20:15] <KxTwo> on a hunch I just did a speed test on my laptop and then on my desktop server
[20:15] <CAPITANOOO> ok and how i can found the problem
[20:16] <KxTwo> I have 30Mbps down which I hit on my server but my laptop got less than 10
[20:16] <CAPITANOOO> maide is a nvidia driver but im not sure
[20:16] <CAPITANOOO> maibe
[20:16] <CAPITANOOO> how i can found the rela problem TJ-
[20:16] <CAPITANOOO> real
[20:16] <TJ-> KxTwo, in case the RTL is having Tx/Rx problems, you can check the Excessive Retries count with "iwconfig"
[20:16] <KxTwo> 0
[20:16] <daftykins> CAPITANOOO: which version are you trying to boot? can you link us to that system's spec?
[20:17] <KxTwo> TJ-, that is set to 0
[20:17] <KxTwo> retested and got 6.71
[20:17] <KxTwo> desktop server is holding steady at >30
[20:17] <CAPITANOOO> Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS
[20:17] <TJ-> CAPITANOOO, If the installer is failing, the first thing to do is used the installer boot menu, Advanced options section, and remove the "quiet splash" entries and replce them with "debug" then boot... that will output the maximum amount of kernel messages and should help to indicate where the system gets stuck
[20:19] <KxTwo> aand now I am suddenly getting 20, which is still slow but faster than what it was a few minutes ago
[20:19] <KxTwo> so random
[20:19] <CAPITANOOO> but i tink the installatione dont rreach to splash screen
[20:19] <TJ-> KxTwo, What Bit Rate does 'iwconfig' report, and what Frequency?
[20:19] <daftykins> CAPITANOOO: so where's that spec?
[20:19] <CAPITANOOO> what spec
[20:20] <TJ-> KxTwo, was the speedtest running at the same time on both server and laptop? :)
[20:20] <CAPITANOOO> spec abaut
[20:20] <daftykins> CAPITANOOO: the system you're trying to install to, the specification... link us please
[20:20] <KxTwo> TJ-, no, I am not that dumb :)
[20:20] <CAPITANOOO> but what system  Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS im tring to intall this
[20:21] <guntbert> KxTwo: are you certain that it is not a problem of the access point?
[20:21] <CAPITANOOO> i never had this problem before
[20:21] <KxTwo> http://pastebin.com/t2Txcrhk
[20:21] <daftykins> CAPITANOOO: THE LAPTOP. link us to its' spec please.
[20:21] <KxTwo> TJ-, I just captured iwconfig output for you
[20:21] <KxTwo> guntbert, yes I have no problems with any other device except this laptop when running linux.
[20:21] <CAPITANOOO> i sai before acer aspire m1641
[20:21] <TJ-> KxTwo, pastebin ?
[20:22] <KxTwo> TJ-, http://pastebin.com/t2Txcrhk
[20:22] <daftykins> CAPITANOOO: that's a model, not a page with the full spec. look it up and link me
[20:23] <CAPITANOOO> its old model not esy to find i try
[20:23] <TJ-> KxTwo, I'm wondering if your issues might be caused by an ACPI OSI name mismatch. That is a common theme where the BIOS/Firmware is customised for Windows versions and doesn't enable all functionality for Linux. We often work around it using kernel's acpi_osi="XXX" where XXX is a BIOS and model-specific string such as "Windows 2012"
[20:23] <Guest23456900> in some of videos , especially editing in /etc/fstab, i found relatime
[20:23] <CAPITANOOO> http://icecat.us/it/p/acer/91.kfr7z.t7p/pc-workstation-4718235912093-Aspire+M1641-1963072.html
[20:23] <Guest23456900> what is relatime ? it should be realtime or relative ? isn't it?
[20:24] <KxTwo> TJ-, ok.. I'm all ears lol
[20:24] <CAPITANOOO> i tink its not much relevant
[20:24] <TJ-> KxTwo, iwconfig looks good - strong signal, *but* the Bit Rate I'd have expected to be up around 144Mbps or more
[20:24] <Johnny_Linux> i tink so too
[20:24] <poppe> Suggestion of good pdf tool (like adobe acrobat) that can open multiple instances of a document and export a document to a odt or something else document related. :)
[20:24] <TJ-> KxTwo, We'll worry about acpi_osi= at a later stage if the current tests don't solve it :)
[20:24] <CAPITANOOO> maibe its nivida driver problem but its just a supposition
[20:25] <KxTwo> TJ-, something is stopping me from hitting 30Mbps down too
[20:25] <KxTwo> TJ-, I just want to make sure you have all the symptoms
[20:25] <Guest23456900> what is relatime ? it should be realtime or relative ? isn't it?
[20:25] <KxTwo> TJ-, so now we know that even when I am connected it still isn't up to speed
[20:25] <daftykins> CAPITANOOO: i suspect either your download was corrupt or your flash drive / media wasn't made up correctly, try remaking it
[20:25] <CAPITANOOO> i triend from usb and from dvd
[20:26] <CAPITANOOO>  itried  x86 and 64 b version of iso
[20:26] <KxTwo> TJ-, not sure if that also shows that the power managment theory is not longer valid
[20:26] <TJ-> KxTwo, That would be expected given the carrier is only 72.2Mbps ... that equates to a real maximum user throughout of around 10 Megabytes per second
[20:26] <CAPITANOOO> i do md5 cechk
[20:26] <KxTwo> TJ-, so are you saying I can't get the 30Mbps down on this laptop?
[20:27] <TJ-> KxTwo, power saving theory is for causing the link to drop totally, it won't affect the bandwidth. You've getting the expected bandwidth for 72Mbps
[20:27] <KxTwo> TJ-, well my bandwidth keeps jumping \anywhere from 6ish to 20ish it's all over the place every time I do it.  That doesn't make sense to me.
[20:27] <jawatio> Has anyone here use the "switch.ch" APT repo's before. Im trying to figure out if they are trusty worthy
[20:28] <CAPITANOOO> im desperate
[20:28] <TJ-> KxTwo, It should, yes, or at least get close to 30Mbps, but in the 802.11 band (2.4GHz) are usually a lot of other devices all arguing over the limited bandwidth, and interfering with each other.
[20:28] <TJ-> KxTwo, Are you in an urban area/location with lots of other APs visible to the PC?
[20:29] <KxTwo> TJ-, ok so where are we at to get this adapter working at 100%?
[20:29] <guntbert> Guest23456900: it relly is relatime -- denoting the updates on the atime of inodes (access time) should be written not all the time
[20:29] <KxTwo> There are a few other signals around where I live yes
[20:29] <daftykins> CAPITANOOO: time to try 14.04.1 then i would say.
[20:30] <CAPITANOOO> i will
[20:30] <KxTwo> on the advice of some one else from #ubuntu, I have my wireless set to 20mhz only and channel 9
[20:30] <TJ-> KxTwo, Let's see how many other APs are near you. "sudo iwlist scan | tee /dev/stderr | pastebinit"
[20:31] <OerHeks> CAPITANOOO, that GeForce 7050 onboard is too old for nvidia driver, but should work with the opendriver.
[20:31] <daftykins> CAPITANOOO: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/14.04.0/
[20:32] <KxTwo> TJ-, I didn't have that pastebinit but glab I grabbed it!  http://paste.ubuntu.com/12240802/
[20:34] <KxTwo> This is going to suck if none of my wireless devices can get 30Mbps down, I just upgraded my internet to that from 10
[20:34] <TJ-> KxTwo, that really explains it! You've got other APs on very close channels. If at all possible, in your Wifi Router control panel, set the channel to "auto" and the AP should find a clearer channel.  In the 2.4 GHz band the only fully non-overlapping channels are 1, 6, 11. You're on 9 and have other strong signals on 6 and 11, so if there is no 'auto' setting choose '1'
[20:35] <jaso> hi
[20:35] <TJ-> KxTwo, that means 3 networks are all overlapping and interfering with each other
[20:35] <KxTwo> TJ-, I originally had that but some one else told me to change it, should I leave it at 20mhz only?
[20:36] <KxTwo> TJ- should I auto the width too?
[20:36] <CAPITANOOO> okok
[20:36] <CAPITANOOO> just tring
[20:36] <TJ-> KxTwo, No, if that has auto, use it. To get faster than 72Mb/s you'll need 40Mhz channels, but that reduces the choice of channels even more so 'auto' or channel 1 (at this moment in time) would be the better choice
[20:36] <KxTwo> I have a WRT120N if that matters
[20:37] <KxTwo> ok so I am going to leave it at 20Mhz and auto?
[20:37] <guntbert> TJ-: did you see that   0dBm  on cell 05? I've never seen that
[20:38] <TJ-> KxTwo, actually, wait 1. I just realised I didn't read the full report - skipped a section. You also have devices on channels 1 and 2.
[20:38] <KxTwo> TJ-, Ok...
[20:39] <poppe> Anyone have a suggestion of good pdf tool (like adobe acrobat) that can open multiple instances of a document and export a document to a odt or something else document related?
[20:39] <TJ-> KxTwo, So, your problem really is congested radio spectrum. Can your AP and all PCs/devices operate in the 802.11a 5GHz band ? If so, try using it instead, it is very often quieter
[20:39] <[Aura]MaelStrom> Hi, i was wondering: I'm running ubuntu server on a VM, and there I am running a web server, I want to access it via my host: Is it possible to create port forwarding in ubuntu, so requests to the VM's IP will be forwarded to the webserver's IP
[20:39] <KxTwo> TJ-, there are only a few around me, if that is such a problem what the heck do people do who live in bigger cities?
[20:40] <guntbert> [Aura]MaelStrom: depends on your virtualization product
[20:40] <daftykins> [Aura]MaelStrom: hard to follow given we don't know your network setup
[20:40] <KxTwo> as for the a 5ghz questions I actually have no idea lol
[20:40] <TJ-> guntbert, yes, I assumed it was an error :)
[20:41] <guntbert> TJ-: or someone with much to high power on his transmitter ?
[20:41] <TJ-> KxTwo, As I said, there are only 3 non-overlapping choices for 20MHz channels on 802.11bgn (2.4GHZ). With 40MHz channels only 2 channels (1 and 11)
[20:42] <daftykins> [Aura]MaelStrom: i suspect you mean you have this VM configured with host only networking, you should change it to bridged so it's on the same physical network as your host PC.
[20:42] <TJ-> KxTwo, Any idea who operates the network "DavidHome" ?
[20:42] <KxTwo> TJ-, well I changed it to auto for everything and the laptop is up to 25mbps now
[20:43] <[Aura]MaelStrom> I'm running ubuntu server on virtual box, its eth0 IP is x configured by DHCP (interfaces), using NAT (virtualbox). on the host (windows) the Virtual box has its IP y. I want to do port forwarding so connection to y from host will be forwarded to x inside ubuntu
[20:43] <KxTwo> TJ-, it is my closest neighbor and is maintained by time warner cable
[20:43] <TJ-> KxTwo, guntbert pointed out its signal to noise ratio (SNR) is extremely high (suggested it may be using an amplified or highly directional antenna pointed in your direction)
[20:43] <KxTwo> TJ-, his router is only a few feet from mine, I live in a multie family unit he is my neighbor
[20:43] <TJ-> KxTwo, Staying away from that AP on whatever channel it chooses (currently 11) is your number 1 improvement
[20:43] <MonkeyDust> [Aura]MaelStrom what are you planning to do with that?
[20:43] <guntbert> [Aura]MaelStrom: for virtualbox support please visit #virtualbox  and/or read the handbook
[20:44] <welovecisco> My location: Clio, United States
[20:44] <[Aura]MaelStrom> well, I wonder can I create port forwarding INSIDE ubuntu. So requests to X will go to Y
[20:44] <KxTwo> TJ-, well I have it set to auto right now and it seems to be working so leave it?  Also inproved my speed though I doubt any of this was causing my disconnects as that only happened on this machine
[20:45] <TJ-> KxTwo, because in 'auto' mode the APs can change channels it means you constantly need to check the channels in use with a 'iwlist scan' if you get problems, to see if another AP is operating in your APs range of channels
[20:45] <KxTwo> TJ-, ok this is new to me, I have never had issues before.  I have never had to worrya bout crosstalk and have had the same neighbors all running wifi for upwards of 8 years
[20:45] <TJ-> KxTwo, the disconnects could be caused by your PC being so close to DavidHome that it was overwhelmed and couldn't contact your own AP
[20:45] <daftykins> [Aura]MaelStrom: you're doing virtualisation wrong, you should be using *BRIDGED* networking on the VM - that's what's wrong, your idea is crazy :)
[20:45] <KxTwo> what the heck would some one do in an apartment building in NYC?
[20:46] <TJ-> KxTwo, new devices, different locations, different antennas all contribute to this kind of issue
[20:46] <TJ-> KxTwo, Cry
[20:46] <TJ-> KxTwo, Use a wire... it's always more reliable
[20:46] <KxTwo> TJ-, then why does it only happens on this laptop when running ubuntu?  It doesn't happen when running windows, and none of my other wireless devices, or that of friends, have had problems?
[20:46] <daftykins> i can tell you what i'd do anywhere in the world, buy more network cables ;)
[20:46] <KxTwo> TJ-, it's a laptop lol
[20:47] <[Aura]MaelStrom> daftykins, I've been getting trouble with bridged networking on the ubuntu server, it fails to configure the networking
[20:47] <daftykins> KxTwo: nice big long one
[20:47] <daftykins> [Aura]MaelStrom: then you need to fix that.
[20:47] <TJ-> KxTwo, maybe the driver/firmware don't react in the best way possible to interference, and instead of trying to work around it, drop the connection. This is the problem with chipsets from manufacturers who don't fully support open-source development
[20:47] <KxTwo> Im sorry but this doesn't make sense to me, I have college friends who are living in manhatten surrounded by countless wireless signals and their speeds are fine.
[20:48] <TJ-> KxTwo, So? I have both wireless and ethernet wired in use on my laptop when it's on the desk
[20:48] <KxTwo> Ok so we are basically back to saying that it is not a software fix but now it is because I have neighbors who also have wifi...
[20:48] <TJ-> KxTwo, I've been working with deploying WiFi networks for back-haul and on-premises since for 15 years; this is NOT an unusual issue at all.
[20:48] <lacrymology> since the update to kernel 3.13.0-58 my computer doesn't boot correctly. With some kernels I get just a black screen, with some I get an X error message, but no input (keyboard or mouse). I've got .13.0-46~62 installed, and the latest one I'm able to run is -57
[20:49] <KxTwo> TJ-, I do not use a desk, I use a couche, a chair, a back porch, a kitchen table, a bed.  I am not going to install ethernet at every possible location I use my laptop.
[20:49] <MonkeyDust> lacrymology  what's the output of   cat /etc/issue
[20:49] <lacrymology> Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS \n \l
[20:49] <KxTwo> TJ-, well it is new to me.  you obviously are more experienced than me but I just visited my  friend over the weeken and he had more wireless signanls than I could count and zero problems  I do not even live in a city I live in the suburbs.
[20:49] <TJ-> KxTwo, It is possibly a combination of the 2 - other APs very close, poor signal isolation, possibly a poor Wifi antenna design in the laptop (may be directional), possibly poor firmware/driver behaviour.
[20:50] <lacrymology> MonkeyDust: ^^
[20:50] <KxTwo> I just feel i that were the case I would have problems on all wireless devices and operating systems but I guess I will take your word for it.
[20:51] <MonkeyDust> lacrymology  can you restart, in GRUB choose a differenrt kernel
[20:51] <KxTwo> haha and it doesn't look like the mouse fix worked either lol
[20:51] <KxTwo> ugh I give up
[20:51] <TJ-> KxTwo, sometimes the positioning of the wifi antennas in the laptop (usually around the screen) can make then directional. I've seen several instances where poor signal was caused by 1 of the antenna connectors internally not being connected to the card and simply reconnecting it fixed all issues with poor performance. There are SO MANY possibilities
[20:51] <Johnny_Linux> trade it in for a hp KxTwo
[20:51] <tables> how do i completely remove a package and it's files and config files and whatever files?
[20:51] <lacrymology> MonkeyDust: if I choose a newer kernel, what I described happens, I can't even get to a tty to login
[20:52] <KxTwo> Johnny_Linux, kudos on jumping in without knowing what is up.  This IS an HP :)
[20:52] <TJ-> KxTwo, if the mouse just failed, grab the logs as per the bug report - they may reveal why it is failing
[20:52] <MonkeyDust> lacrymology  i mean, an older kernel
[20:52] <guntbert> tables: sudo apt-get purge <packagename>
[20:52] <Johnny_Linux> ooo, i thought you said it was an acer, my bad
[20:52] <tables> isn't there a better one with dpkg?
[20:52] <TJ-> Johnny_Linux, the Acer was CAPITANOOO
[20:52] <Johnny_Linux> i c
[20:52] <MonkeyDust> tables  sudo aptitude purge ~c    <-- yes, that's a tilde
[20:52] <lacrymology> MonkeyDust: I'm currently running -57, which is the newest kernel that's working for me. Isn't that what you're recommending?
[20:53] <KxTwo> TJ-, well unfortunately at this point the on ly issue is this laptop when running ubuntu. so it is either get a new laptop or switch back to windows, switchin back to windows is where I am leaning at this point.
[20:53] <MonkeyDust> lacrymology  ok, good
[20:53] <lacrymology> MonkeyDust: the latest one I've got installed is -62
[20:53] <akik> KxTwo: you forgot the acpi_osi change
[20:53] <MonkeyDust> lacrymology  that's newer than mine, i've got -46
[20:53] <TJ-> KxTwo, Yes, if HP don't provide support for Linux then Windows is probably the best thing for it. This is always a problem for Linux users
[20:54] <tables> MonkeyDust, isn't there a better command?
[20:54] <KxTwo> akik, well it sounds like TJ is saying it is because I have neighbors with wireless routers.
[20:54] <MonkeyDust> tables  define "better"?
[20:54] <akik> KxTwo: "leave no stone unturned"
[20:54] <KxTwo> I have had zero problems with internet in my house in 8 years, until I get this laptop and installed linux on it.
[20:55] <MonkeyDust> tables  you could try deleting the folder from ~/.config
[20:55] <KxTwo> I've switched everything to auto on my router and am hoping that does something but now that I see my mouse fix didn't work either I am just about to my wits end
[20:56] <TJ-> KxTwo, You'd have even more problems with a default Windows installs - every device needs a driver, and you'd have to find and fetch and install each one. However, HP does that for you, because Windows has a virtual monopoly over x86 PCs still and chipset manufacturers don't feel it necessary to support Linux drivers the same way they do for Windows - without Windows driver they'd not sell chipsets.
[20:57] <TJ-> KxTwo, In the Linux/Android device market it is the opposite way around... If they want to sell chipsets for Smartphones they have to have Linux drivers
[20:57] <lacrymology> KxTwo: get youself a TP-Link Wr710? they're cheap and it'll fix your issue ;)
[20:57] <Johnny_Linux> ^
[20:57] <KxTwo> lacrymology, it might not though according to what the current working theory is
[20:57] <akik> KxTwo: try that suggestion by Tj- acpi_osi="Windows 2012" i had to enter acpi_osi=Linux on my machine to get the display backlight working
[20:57] <KxTwo> lacrymology, but also I am having a mouse issue that isn't fixed either. I was about ready to buy a new laptop but if it comes down to it I will just switch back to windows
[20:57] <daftykins> TJ-: that's not true these days :)
[20:58] <TJ-> KxTwo, it's worth testing with an external WiFi adapter... different chipset, different antenna location, different drivers/firmware
[20:58] <no_bill_gatez> is there a application on ubuntu that will connect to iphone?
[20:58] <daftykins> no_bill_gatez: not really
[20:58] <daftykins> !iphone
[20:59] <KxTwo> lacrymology, also not sure why you would tell me to get a new router, I suggested that months ago and everyone said that wouldn't do anything
[20:59] <KxTwo> TJ-, I have multiple wireless devices, again it is only this machine and only when running linux I have a problem
[20:59] <no_bill_gatez> thanks
[21:00] <daftykins> return/sell/stick to Windows? :)
[21:00] <lacrymology> KxTwo: it was KIND of a joke, and I wasn't proposing to use it as a router, you'd carry it around with your laptop, have it connect to your wifi, and to the laptop via ethernet.
[21:00] <lacrymology> KxTwo: silly question, but do other devices connect?
[21:00] <KxTwo> lacrymology, oh lol sorry.  Not that I would have gotten it but I am a little frustrated right now too
[21:00] <KxTwo> yes I ONLY have this problem with THIS laptop and when running it with linux
[21:01] <lacrymology> KxTwo: yes, I can imagine, sorry for trying to be funny, not appropriate
[21:01] <KxTwo> I had zero problems with windows but am not a fan, though 10 came ou so maybe that is nicer.
[21:01] <BenMcLean> Anyone know how to install large cursors so that they apply everywhere?
[21:01] <BenMcLean> i am using Ubuntu with GNOME
[21:02] <TJ-> KxTwo, As I said earlier, try another chipset in the laptop; it may be the particular device/driver/firmware combo. RTL don't support Linux like Atheros do, for example
[21:02] <KxTwo> I have also been in here on multiple occassions with people offering different theories/fixes.  This time I came in just for laptop suggestions as I was going to buy another one but got talked into trying to fix everything again and now the working theory is because I have neighbors with wireless which quite frankly blows my mind.
[21:02] <KxTwo> oddly enough I have had no drops today, just slower than 30Mbps speeds
[21:02] <KxTwo> and I dont' think the mouse fix worked either
[21:03] <lrs_> Hi, I have a problem
[21:03] <lrs_> Im trying to install a game on s team
[21:03] <lrs_> But it says I have 0 mb left
[21:03] <lrs_> And I cant seem to access the folder
[21:03] <lrs_> Anyone have any idea what the problem is?
[21:03] <k1l> lrs_: please pastebin "df -h"
[21:04] <lacrymology> KxTwo: if you have an android cell phone you can try this https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.farproc.wifi.analyzer&hl=en_GB to see if your channel is getting a lot of interference.
[21:04] <TJ-> KxTwo, the theory is that congested spectrum *may* be causing a problem for the chipset/firmware/driver combo... that is not unusual. For a long time (years) Intel drivers had terrible problems such that most users had to disable 802.11n entirely to have working devices. That finally got fixed in the upstream kernel about 1 1/2 years ago.
[21:04] <lrs_> k1l, http://paste.ubuntu.com/12240982/
[21:05] <lrs_> When i pick the library folder in steam
[21:05] <lrs_> I can choose / and /boot
[21:05] <lrs_> If I pick / and then create steam in home
[21:05] <x_root> hello, is possible to resize a dynamic partition?
[21:05] <lrs_> Doesnt work
[21:05] <lrs_> Ive reinstalled steam
[21:06] <k1l> lrs_: hmm, dont know then.
[21:06] <x_root> i'm at dual boot (using linux right now) and will resize the partition of linux to expand (and wipe the windows partition..)
[21:06] <x_root> or is better to just format?
[21:06] <KxTwo> lacrymology, I think TJ-  just tested that using another method
[21:06] <KxTwo> at this point I just put everything on auto and we will see what happens, I am getting better speeds at least
[21:06] <TJ-> KxTwo, the i8042.XXX options may not be correct ones. There are several combinations. Without seeing the logs when the touchpad fails there's no way to be sure what combination of options might fix it, or even if that is the correct approach - it is just the most common cause for Ps/2 Touchpads
[21:07] <Fjorgynn> hey
[21:07] <Fjorgynn> i've got a problem with audio
[21:07] <Ner0> lrs_ --> Did you open steam with root permission?
[21:07] <x_root> Fjorgynn, which problem?
[21:07] <TJ-> lacrymology, we used 'iwlist scan' to check the local radio spectrum see http://paste.ubuntu.com/12240802/
[21:08] <Fjorgynn> x_root: I must open alsamixer to unmute headphones and raise the volume to get sound from the speakers, everytime I reboot
[21:08] <Fjorgynn> which is a bit annoying
[21:08] <Fjorgynn> doesn't work in gui xfce
[21:08] <lrs_> Ner0, Yeah
[21:08] <lrs_> Ner0, I run it with optirun
[21:09] <lrs_> hmm
[21:09] <x_root> don't know how to fix Fjorgynn.. is possible to change to pulseaudio?
[21:09] <lrs_> if i do sudo steam it says cant run as root user
[21:09] <x_root> maybe it works.. idk.. :s
[21:09] <Fjorgynn> x_root: I don't know it must be pulseaudio?
[21:09] <Fjorgynn> but I can't see  it in the gui
[21:10] <x_root> hm.. there's a way to see/try that from terminal..
[21:10] <x_root> i can't remember the command though.. =/
[21:10] <Fjorgynn> tried alsactl store as root now x_root
[21:11] <x_root> hm..
[21:11] <KxTwo> yah this is turning into a nihtmare with way too many possible combinations of issues.  Im just going to se how things go for the next day or so and either switch back to windows or get another laptop
[21:12] <lector> tsup
[21:14] <BenMcLean> Hey KxTwo, thanks for your help earlier today. Starting in UEFI mode and running boot-repair fixed my laptop right up :)
[21:15] <BenMcLean> I see some chatting has gone on but nobody responded to my question about changing mouse cursors
[21:15] <BenMcLean> Anyone know about that?
[21:15] <KxTwo> BenMcLean, you are welcome!  I got totally lucky on that.  Too bad I can't get my machine running perfectly
[21:21] <pentrix> hi all, I'm so frustrated. I wanted to change from win8 to ubuntu...but when I try to install this error occurs: The installer encountered an error copying file to the hard disk: [Errno 5] Input/Output error. Anyone knows how to solve this problem?
[21:21] <pentrix> It's an ASUS VIVOPC-VC60
[21:22] <pentrix> 64-bit
[21:22] <EriC^^> pentrix: yes its very easy
[21:22] <daftykins> have you made your backup discs so you can reinstall windows if you break it?
[21:22] <KxTwo> pentrix, is it a cd or usb install?
[21:22] <pentrix> EriC^^, ok?
[21:23] <pentrix> daftykins, cd
[21:23] <pentrix> KxTwo, cd
[21:23] <pentrix> daftykins, no backup..I was feeling lucky
[21:23] <daftykins> ugh
[21:23] <KxTwo> pentrix, it's possible you have a bad image.  you should use a USB instead and check your image with md5sum
[21:23] <daftykins> that was very unwise
[21:23] <daftykins> pentrix: ok so they're definitely made? good stuff. is Ubuntu to be the only OS, or do you want to dual boot?
[21:23] <daftykins> er ignore the first bit :P
[21:23] <pentrix> KxTwo, I'll try that then.. usb installer here we go
[21:24] <KxTwo> check your iso, md5sum ubuntioXXX.iso
[21:24] <TJ-> pentrix, bug #245794 has useful explanations and advice
[21:24] <KxTwo> compare with: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes
[21:24] <pentrix> daftykins, only ubuntu, erase the whole disk
[21:25] <simonepsp> I'm trying to reorder columns in midnight commander (single panel view). I've checked on the manual but I can't figure  out how to do it. Someone could help me? Thanks
[21:25] <simonepsp> :)
[21:25] <pentrix> TJ-, ok, I'll check that
[21:25] <pentrix> ubuntu3, thanks..I'll check
[21:25] <pentrix> KxTwo, Thanks I'll check...
[21:26] <daftykins> ubottu is a bot :>
[21:26] <daftykins> oh i know ubottu, i know only too well.
[21:26] <pentrix> thank you guys for your support... I'll write again when it works... or not.. hehe
[21:27] <simonepsp> no one uses mc? :)
[21:27] <KxTwo> pentrix, listen to him he is a guru, definitely use usb though, much easier to deal with if there is an issue
[21:27] <KxTwo> if you only have a windows machine to create it I believe the program is called "live usb creator" just google it and you'll find it
[21:28] <BenMcLean> Someone who is having problems with the ubuntu installer may want to try the alternative ubuntu installer. I don't know if that's been brought up but it can be very helpful, especially for older systems
[21:28] <daftykins> Simon1245: i thought it was more a Windows prog. but obviously not given no replies ;)
[21:28] <BenMcLean> Course, last time I used it was in 2012. So I don't even know if it's still maintained
[21:28] <daftykins> BenMcLean: hasn't existed for years, so no :)
[21:28] <BenMcLean> That's too bad. It was excellent.
[21:29] <BenMcLean> Why'd they get rid of it?
[21:29] <daftykins> it's not necessary
[21:29] <Simon1245> daftykins, You wrote to the wrong person, I think you meant simonepsp
[21:29] <Simon1245> But he left anyway so..
[21:29] <daftykins> Simon1245: ah my apologies
[21:29] <Simon1245> No problem :
[21:30] <daftykins> BenMcLean: there's mini.iso which serves the same purpose, server media and desktop media - so yeah, doesn't really matter.
[21:30] <pentrix> KxTwo, I'll try usb installer...
[21:30] <BenMcLean> daftykins, oh I see. Well, then use the mini iso :)
[21:32] <BenMcLean> relatively new computers are so cheap and so abundant in first world countries these days that I can understand starting to remove some legacy supports nowadays
[21:32] <orfeo> Hello folks!
[21:32] <BenMcLean> although, on the other hand, things like the raspberry pi show that there is still gonna be a need for desktop operating systems that run on limited hardware for the forseeable future :)
[21:32] <daftykins> BenMcLean: also no, i think you interpreted the issue incorrectly
[21:33] <BenMcLean> OK nvm :)
[21:33] <daftykins> !ot | BenMcLean
[21:33] <orfeo> I am trying to set a second github account on my machine but it insists to keep pushing with the previews ssh account. Could someone help me please?
[21:33] <BenMcLean> I posted my question here, since nobody seemed to have any ideas on it in either this channel or #gnome https://www.reddit.com/r/gnome/comments/3j4wb8/how_to_get_universal_moderately_bigger_mouse/
[21:34] <TJ-> orfeo, you probably need a specific Host section in the user's ssh config "man ssh_config"
[21:35] <orfeo> TJ-: ok, thank you!
[21:36] <TJ-> orfeo, I generate seperate SSH keys for each user/service, and add them to the config, see http://paste.ubuntu.com/12241157/
[21:38] <yecril71pl> Hi there, what does LTS mean in practice?
[21:38] <TJ-> yecril71pl, security and bug-fixes for the term of the support
[21:38] <yecril71pl> Can I expect obsolete packages to be upgraded?
[21:38] <MonkeyDust> !lts | yecril71pl
[21:39] <lrs_> k1l, https://github.com/ValveSoftware/steam-for-linux/issues/3596
[21:39] <yecril71pl> e.g. system monitor is obsolete
[21:39] <lrs_> This guy has the same problem
[21:39] <lrs_> I seriously dont know wth to do
[21:40] <TJ-> yecril71pl, generally, only bug-fixes are backported. Although the HardWare Enablement stack brings newer kernel and Xorg X server
[21:40] <yecril71pl> system monitor has been updated for 15.04 but not for 14.04 LTS
[21:41] <MonkeyDust> yecril71pl  i have 14.04, opened system monitor... what do you expect from it?
[21:41] <TJ-> yecril71pl, do you mean "gnome-system-monitor"
[21:41] <orfeo> TJ-: that is exactly what I am trying but somehow when I push with the second user it just uses the first and ignores the host/user.
[21:41] <yecril71pl> I expect from it not to be obsolete.
[21:41] <MonkeyDust> yecril71pl  did you have a support question too?
[21:42] <yecril71pl> The documentation does not match the application.
[21:42] <TJ-> orfeo, You need to do "git push <Host entry name>:... " as in "git push gitub:/path/to/repo"
[21:42] <PORIG> what is the newer version of kernel?
[21:42] <PORIG> which
[21:43] <daftykins> vivid is currently sporting 3.19.0-26 i believe
[21:43] <daftykins> (15.04)
[21:43] <yecril71pl> MonkeyDust: my support question is: where is the Edit menu?
[21:43] <daftykins> PORIG: is that what you wanted to know?
[21:43] <TJ-> !info gnome-system-monitor trusty
[21:43] <orfeo> TJ-: and that is what I am doing. It just work if I set git config user.name and user.password locally.
[21:44] <MonkeyDust> yecril71pl  you mean Preferences?
[21:44] <yecril71pl> MonkeyDust: See the screen shot in the bundled handbook.
[21:44] <TJ-> orfeo, Yes, I set those per-repo if they differ.
[21:44] <yecril71pl> MonkeyDust: The screen shot shows an Edit menu, where is it?
[21:45] <MonkeyDust> yecril71pl  not sure what you mean by the bundled hadbook... what is your end goal?
[21:45] <PORIG> daftykins:i guess. i'm having drive problems with the kernel and i thought was the version but i using this version of kernel
[21:45] <daftykins> PORIG: drive problems?
[21:45] <orfeo> TJ-: I thought it would choose the account based on host/user from ssh/config file.
[21:46] <yecril71pl> MonkeyDust: In order to learn how to use the system monitor, I read the handbook that appears when you ask the system monitor for help.
[21:46] <orfeo> TJ-: the one you've pasted before.
[21:46] <yecril71pl> MonkeyDust: And the handbook makes a fool of me because it is different from what I can see in the application.
[21:46] <MonkeyDust> yecril71pl  system monitor is not the most important tool in ubuntu... focus on other tools, first
[21:47] <PORIG> daftykins:the system only boot with the default driver of ubuntu. if i install any proprietary driver, after the grub(when booting) appears "ACPI PCC Probe Failed"
[21:47] <TJ-> orfeo, the user.name/email are for commit authorship, if they differ for the different repos. The SSH key from a Host entry will need the IdentitiesOnly in order for the ssh client to *NOT* try all your SSH keys... which if you are using 2 github accounts, is probably what is happening
[21:47] <yecril71pl> MonkeyDust: It is important to know things about processes.
[21:47] <daftykins> PORIG: are you the one with the old acer desktop from earlier?
[21:48] <TJ-> yecril71pl, the rule not the exception in open-source is: expect the documentation to be out of date :)
[21:48] <MonkeyDust> yecril71pl  ok, but the 'ps' is more versatile then the gui
[21:48] <PORIG> daftykins: So if i want to run with the proprietary driver, i have to go advanced setting and use the generic recovery option of the 3.19.0-26
[21:48] <MonkeyDust> 'ps' command*
[21:48] <TJ-> yecril71pl, and the further away from the source-code the creation of the docs are, the worse it is
[21:48] <PORIG> daftykins: i dont think so
[21:48] <yecril71pl> TJ-: But I am told that the handbook has been fixed.
[21:49] <MonkeyDust> yecril71pl  explore the 'ps' command if you want to learn about processes
[21:49] <yecril71pl> The fix is not available for LTS though.
[21:49] <daftykins> PORIG: what card?
[21:49] <PORIG> daftykins: i mean, my monitor is acer but think its nothing to do with the problem xd
[21:50] <PORIG> daftykins: nvidia gtx 650
[21:50] <PORIG> daftykins: and the version of driver is 352.41. the newest
[21:50] <orfeo> TJ-: Ok, I am using two different github accounts (work/personal) how to solve it then ?
[21:50] <yecril71pl> And I think it should be, because it fixes a bug in the documentation.
[21:50] <TJ-> yecril71pl, maybe the bug for the issue didn't have an SRU (Stable Release Update) request, or 1 was refused for some reason. There are lots of similar problems in a distro with 30,000+ packages
[21:51] <yecril71pl> Who can issue an SRU?
[21:51] <MonkeyDust> yecril71pl  you could report it as a !bug, if you like
[21:51] <TJ-> orfeo, Make sure the 2 github accounts are using different SSH keys, and in the 'config' file use "IdentitiesOnly Yes" so the ssh client only tries to use the key associated with the Host entry
[21:51] <yecril71pl> So I have, but it has been fixed only for 15.04.
[21:51] <daftykins> PORIG: try -25 if you still have it installed
[21:52] <yecril71pl> MonkeyDust: Which is exactly what bothers me.
[21:53] <MonkeyDust> yecril71pl  maybe it's not considered important and nobody ever noticed it before
[21:53] <PORIG> daftykins: i already tried, but i'll try it again
[21:53] <TJ-> yecril71pl, first identify the package the documentation is contained in, then search the Launchpad bug tracker for an existing report about the issue. If there isn't a report, create one. Point to the fixes being in 15.04 and then request an SRU if appropriate. SRU rules at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates
[21:54] <yecril71pl> TJ-: That looks promising, thanks!
[21:57] <MonkeyDust> yecril71pl  if it's fixed, then we know it was thanks to you
[21:58] <yecril71pl> But I cannot benefit from the fix.
[21:59] <yecril71pl> (until the next LTS, that is)
[21:59] <MonkeyDust> yecril71pl  i'm still not getting what's so important about it
[22:02] <yecril71pl> It is important to be able to diagnose problems with applications.
[22:02] <KxTwo>  
[22:02] <yecril71pl> Sometimes I have to decide whether an application is doing something useful or locked.
[22:03] <MonkeyDust> yecril71pl  the CLI is better for diagnosing
[22:03] <samthewildone> is there a way to learn bash scripting via man pages?
[22:03] <TJ-> samthewildone, "man bash" ?
[22:03] <samthewildone> TJ-: did that but, nothing
[22:03] <k1l> !bash | samthewildone
[22:04] <k1l> samthewildone: see http://www.tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/
[22:04] <orfeo> TJ-: now when I try to push this error is showing : ".ssh/config line 6: Bad yes/no argument." at the new line IdentitiesOnly yes.
[22:04] <yecril71pl> MonkeyDust: I am not sure I am able to efficiently use the CLI.
[22:05] <TJ-> samthewildone, also, the package "abs-guide" is The Advanced BASH-Scripting Guide
[22:05] <MonkeyDust> yecril71pl  e.g., in a terminal, type    'ps -e' (simple)   and then   ps aux
[22:05] <MonkeyDust> yecril71pl  then now is the time to learn!
[22:05] <TJ-> orfeo, can you show me the config via pastebin?
[22:06] <orfeo> TJ-: sure, just a sec please.
[22:09] <aeden__d> why are some packages "kept back" after performing an upgrade?
[22:09] <orfeo> TJ-: Here it goes : http://paste.ubuntu.com/12241363/
[22:10] <samthewildone> k1l: thanks for the website brother.
[22:13] <mamed> hello . how can nautilus show mp3 cover art on the mp3 files ?
[22:13] <PORIG> daftykins: i guess i deleted -25 when i was trying to solve this
[22:14] <aeden__d> should I wait for the the package's dependencies to catch up with them before I try a dist-upgrade? Running 14.04 LTS and want to stay
[22:14] <MonkeyDust> aeden__d  many people have asked the same question, here's one answer http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/ubuntu-63/why-are-packages-kept-back-782013/
[22:14] <TJ-> orfeo, "HostName github.com-orfeo" ?!?
[22:15] <TJ-> orfeo, The "Host" statement is the unique local name for the following entries; "Hostname" is the actual FQDN of the target host
[22:15] <aeden__d> MonkeyDust, I'm cautious of doing the dist-upgrade, it's left my system broken before, dist-upgrade It will install all pending updates, with their new dependencies. It could delete packages
[22:16] <MonkeyDust> aeden__d  yes, that's what it does: delete obsolete packages
[22:16] <daftykins> PORIG: sudo apt install linux-image-3.19.0-29-generic
[22:16] <MonkeyDust> aeden__d  if you don't want that, use 'upgrade', not 'dist-upgrade'
[22:16] <orfeo> TJ-: I took it from a tutorial. Where can I find this information?
[22:16] <daftykins> PORIG: er -25-generic
[22:17] <orfeo> TJ-: perhaps https://github.com/0rf30 ?
[22:17] <TJ-> orfeo, As I said originally:  "man ssh_config"
[22:18] <aeden__d> MonkeyDust, using 'ugrade' holds back the packages.
[22:18] <TJ-> I also gave you my own configs as working examples at see http://paste.ubuntu.com/12241157/
[22:19] <MonkeyDust> aeden__d  yes, use the option that best suits you
[22:20] <aeden__d> MonkeyDust, I need to clarify, using 'upgrade' in my case holds back the packages... ok, thanks for responding
[22:21] <mamed> how can nautilus show mp3 cover art on the mp3 files ?
[22:21] <aeden__d> I'm just curious why it would hold back these on a 'apt-get upgrade' linux-generic-lts-utopic linux-headers-generic-lts-utopic linux-image-generic-lts-utopic
[22:21] <mamed> the problem is nautilus is not showing album arts. even though i deleted ~/.config/thumbnails folder
[22:21] <edisto> is ther ea beta version of kernel 4.3 yet?
[22:22] <pentrix> hi, I tried installing Ubunut, Linux Mint, Debian on my ASUS Vivo, nothing worked. Installing now Fedora and hopefully it'll work...:)
[22:22] <pentrix> *Ubuntu
[22:22] <orfeo> TJ-: the problem both HostNames are the same.
[22:22] <aeden__d> pentrix, good luck!
[22:23] <J3Ll0W> what's goin on am late to the party.
[22:23] <TJ-> orfeo, HostName doesn't have to be unique, it's just the FQDN of the SSH server being connected to
[22:23] <pentrix> aeden__d, thanks.. I would have prefered debian-based OS, but at least it's linux and not win8 or even worse win10...hahaha
[22:23] <yecril71pl> TJ-: I have no idea what it means to Upload the fixed package to release-proposed with the patch in the bug report.
[22:24] <MonkeyDust> pentrix  this is the ubuntu support channel, stick to support questions
[22:24] <orfeo> TJ-: ok, then what is the problem of one be github.com and the oder be github.com-orfeo?
[22:24] <yecril71pl> TJ-: There is no patch, an upgrade is needed.
[22:24] <TJ-> yecril71pl, That's for Ubuntu developers guidance only
[22:24] <vonsyd0w> geez
[22:24] <pentrix> MonkeyDust, sorry.
[22:25] <TJ-> yecril71pl As I said earlier, and as the SRU guidance says, releases don't get feature updates, only bug-fixes.
[22:25] <J3Ll0W> So Ubuntu huh? What the hell does Ubuntu mean in english anyways?
[22:25] <MonkeyDust> J3Ll0W  "I am because we are"
[22:25] <orfeo> TJ-: in your case you config file uses three different servers.
[22:26] <HexTq> a quality that includes the essential human virtues; compassion and humanity. J3L
[22:26] <J3Ll0W> Nice.
[22:26] <aeden__d>     a quality that includes the essential human virtues; compassion and humanity. Origin Xhosa and Zulu.
[22:26] <k1l> J3Ll0W: for general chat we have a seperate channnel. we try to keep this channel technical support only
[22:26] <k1l> !ot | J3Ll0W
[22:26] <yecril71pl> TJ-: So a bug fix by means of upgrading an obsolete version is not acceptable, right?
[22:26] <J3Ll0W> What is the handle for the general chatting channel?
[22:26] <J3Ll0W> I'm feeling chatty right now.
[22:27] <TJ-> orfeo, I have other configurations that use identical FQDNs too
[22:27] <MonkeyDust> J3Ll0W  type /j #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:27] <aeden__d> J3Ll0W, #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:27] <J3Ll0W> Thank you MonkeyDust
[22:27] <TJ-> yecril71pl, if the package works by definition it is not obsolete
[22:27] <orfeo> TJ-: would you mind showing me that also please?
[22:27] <TJ-> J3Ll0W, see http://www.ubuntu.com/about/about-ubuntu/
[22:27] <yecril71pl> TJ-: The definition of obsolete is unsupported by upstream.
[22:28] <MonkeyDust> yecril71pl  we get the point, now stop the subject
[22:28] <TJ-> orfeo, see https://gist.github.com/jexchan/2351996/
[22:29] <k1l> !sru | yecril71pl
[22:29] <TJ-> yecril71pl, If you want upstream support use a rolling release distro; Ubuntu releases are fixed on the day of release and newer upstream packages go into the next development release.
[22:31] <PORIG> daftykins: i have problems to boot with -25 too
[22:31] <yecril71pl> TJ-: I think that means there is no way to get it fixed in LTS.  Thanks.
[22:32] <PORIG> daftykins: i'll try other versions of kernel to find out if anyone is compatible with driver
[22:33] <PORIG> daftykins: also, i tried other versions of my board driver and get same error
[22:35] <k1l> yecril71pl: did you file a bug for that package?
[22:35] <yecril71pl> k1l: it is fixed in 15.04
[22:36] <k1l> yecril71pl: that is not what i asked
[22:36] <yecril71pl> k1l: Yes, I did.
[22:37] <k1l> yecril71pl: and did you make clear there is no patch/fix for 14.04 and a sru would be needed?
[22:37] <yecril71pl> No, I did not.
[22:37] <Umeaboy> Hi!
[22:38] <Umeaboy> debconf: (Can't locate Gtk2.pm in @INC (you may need to install the Gtk2 module) (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/perl/5.20.2 /usr/local/share/perl/5.20.2 /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/perl5/5.20 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/perl/5.20 /usr/share/perl/5.20 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/FrontEnd/Gnome.pm line 91.)
[22:38] <Umeaboy> How can I fix that?
[22:38] <Umeaboy> Install libgtk2-dev?
[22:39] <Umeaboy> No using any Backports or Proposed-medias.
[22:39] <Umeaboy> Not
[22:40] <Umeaboy> Installing it now to see what happens.
[22:40] <aeden__d> MonkeyDust, don't mean to intrude, just need to clarify something. I'm running 14.04.3 LTS. 'upgrade' holds back (linux-generic-lts-utopic linux-headers-generic-lts-utopic linux-image-generic-lts-utopic).
[22:40] <yecril71pl> Umeaboy: libgtk2-perl?
[22:40] <aeden__d> I just want to make sure that dist-upgrade will _not_ release upgrade to utopic
[22:41] <bekks> aeden__d: It will not.
[22:41] <bekks> aeden__d: For doing so, you would have to call do-release-upgrade.
[22:41] <bekks> I am using dist-upgrade all the time, on multiple machine, all running 14.04.x
[22:41] <aeden__d> bekks, thank you.
[22:41] <TJ-> aeden__d, those packages with 'utopic' in their names are the hardware enablement stack kernel releases, to support newer hardware on LTS releases
[22:42] <k1l> aeden__d: ubuntu doesnt use apt-get for release upgrades.
[22:42] <Umeaboy> yecril71pl: Thanks. I'll see if it appears the next time I do an update via terminal.
[22:43] <aeden__d> k1l, ok, I wasn't sure, thank you
[22:43] <aeden__d> TJ-, thanks for the info
[22:46] <keviv> Confused as to why rc.local either isn't running or I'm just doing something really stupid http://paste.pound-python.org/show/DwCOXHc3ZYHmL586T1La/
[22:47] <nemith> /etc/rc.local?  you mean /etc/init.d/rc.local right?
[22:47] <keviv> nemith: what's /etc/rc.local then?
[22:47] <nemith> oh nevermind
[22:47] <nemith> init.d/rc.local calls /etc/rc.local
[22:47] <keviv> oh lol
[22:49] <nemith> are you sure cwd init is /etc?
[22:49] <k1l> !away > SmOkE_RU_off
[22:50] <keviv> mmm
[22:50] <keviv> good point
[22:51] <technocf> After setting up my new Ubuntu installation with full disk encrption, when I first booted the computer and made sure I typed in the password exactly as I set it then it just says it was wrong.
[22:51] <reisio> technocf: capslock?
[22:51] <technocf> Tried that
[22:51] <reisio> try typing very slowly, one char at a time
[22:52] <reisio> a keyboard that costs less than $75 is very unreliable
[22:52]  * reisio wishes that wasn't a joke
[22:52] <technocf> Here's where I consider I mistyped it during the setup D: :'(
[22:53] <reisio> yeah or didn't store it properly in your head
[22:53] <technocf> I wrote it down to be sure
[22:53] <OneM_Industries> How would I turn on VM support without having to go into the BIOS?
[22:53] <reisio> sounds like you chose a goofy password of the @#$AFsdf sort
[22:53] <reisio> technocf: this is the only xkcd I link to, but it's for you: https://xkcd.com/936/
[22:53] <technocf> 18 character: letters, numbers, and specials.
[22:54] <reisio> OneM_Industries: if you mean vt-x/amd-v, and it's off in the bios, you wouldn't
[22:54] <OneM_Industries> Bother.
[22:54] <reisio> technocf: yeah, that's not a good password, see link
[22:54] <OneM_Industries> Now I have to break uptime....
[22:54] <reisio> OneM_Industries: you'd have to eventually anyway
[22:54] <reisio> that's what fallover boxes are for
[22:54] <reisio> 100% uptime
[22:55] <technocf> reisio, you suggest I choose a sentence?
[22:55] <reisio> technocf: yup
[22:55] <technocf> Well, I need to setup again... so here goes.
[22:55] <reisio> for example: Once in the land of kerpow, I ate the best muffin!
[22:56] <reisio> little story things are very easy to remember
[22:56] <reisio> The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog.
[22:56] <reisio> ^ only don't use that, as it's heavily indexed
[22:56] <technocf> reisio, I'd never thought of that but it's an amazing idea!
[22:56] <reisio> well, it's a good idea
[22:57] <TJ-> technocf, When you were using the installer, was it using US English as the input language, or some other?
[22:57] <technocf> TJ-, I made sure it was set to UK english.
[22:57] <reisio> it's not perfect, but it'll get you a password that's both harder to brute force than an 18 char one, and far easier to remember than a random char one
[22:57] <reisio> not to mention far easier to type
[22:57] <technocf> reisio, and people will look at me like... how long is that guys password!? :D
[22:57] <TJ-> technocf, did you use any UK-specific characters such as £@" that are mapped to different keys on a US keyboard?
[22:57] <technocf> TJ-, I did not
[22:57] <reisio> technocf: heh
[22:58] <reisio> technocf: or they'll say "omfg that guy can type fast, and I bet his computer is unhackable!"
[22:58] <reisio> they'll be wrong, of course, but _they_ always are :p
[22:58] <TJ-> technocf, my LUKs passphrases are so long I can only type them correctly with muscle-memory ... soon as I think about them, I get them wrong
[22:58]  * reisio splits for a while
[22:58] <reisio> TJ-: or have to use your phone's touch keyboard suddenly, heh
[22:58] <reisio> then, the brain hurt
[22:59] <reisio> stilly, you can use muscle memory to remember a password's actual chars, it's just annoying :p
[22:59] <reisio> s/lly/ll/
[22:59] <TJ-> reisio, I wouldn't use touchscreens for such stuff, too painful
[22:59] <reisio> sometimes :p
[22:59]  * reisio splits frealz
[22:59] <TJ-> technocf, Has the system dropped you into the initrd.img's busybox shell due to this?
[23:00] <technocf> TJ-, it did, then I started to install again.
[23:01] <TJ-> technocf, OK, because once at the shell you can retry manually with "cryptsetup /dev/sdXY cryptroot" to unlock the device
[23:01] <TJ-> technocf, grrr typo! "cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/sdXY cryptroot"
[23:01] <technocf> TJ-, ah, okay.  I'll remember that one
[23:01] <yecril71pl> So how can Firefox be updated in LTS?
[23:01] <yecril71pl> It is a major upgrade each time.
[23:02] <TJ-> technocf, that would create a node /dev/mapper/cryptroot ... so 'cryptroot' needs to match whatever the installer determined it should be. You can discover that by doing "cat /conf/conf.d/cryptroot"
[23:02] <k1l> the browsers are updated by the maintainers since there are no patches but only the updated versions
[23:02] <k1l> yecril71pl: ^
[23:02] <TJ-> technocf, that file is put in the initrd.img by the cryptsetup hook scripts whenever the initrd.img is generated or updated
[23:03] <k1l> yecril71pl: file the bug for 14.04. talk to the maintainers about that in that bug report
[23:03] <technocf> https://howsecureismypassword.net/ says that the new sentence password is as good as my old random one
[23:03] <yecril71pl> k1l: I did, but it got fixed in 15.04 only.
[23:03] <k1l> then mark 14.04 as still effected
[23:04] <technocf> I'm sticking with the old one but I've typed it char by char in the installer.
[23:04] <TJ-> yecril71pl, re Firefox see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Firefox#Important_Security_Note
[23:05] <TJ-> technocf, before you reboot, after the installer is finished, you can use a terminal to test the passphrase does unlock the device.
[23:06] <technocf> How so?
[23:07] <TJ-> technocf, if you used the installer's "Try Ubuntu" option and ran the installer from the desktop, then you have a fully working Ubuntu install to work from, so once the installer completes you can do anything you want, including using the terminal to explore the system, test the installed system, modify it, etc.
[23:07] <technocf> I have that, but how can I test it using the Terminal>
[23:07] <yecril71pl> TJ-: So in general, to get anything to LTS, I have to examine the difference between the LTS version and the upstream version, and apply only those differences that actually fix the bug?
[23:08] <TJ-> technocf, Once the installer has finished it should have unmounted the file-system it installed to and done luksClose on the device.
[23:08] <yecril71pl> And then it will be a patch?
[23:09] <technocf> Also, I want a name for my netbook (the machine I'm installing) that could look suspicious :)
[23:09] <TJ-> technocf, so the first thing you can do is "ls /dev/mapper/" to see if there is anything there other than the 'control' node. If so, then use the name to determine if the node is a crypt device, or maybe a LVM Volume Group. If those exist, then deactivate them first, then you can test with cryptsetup luksOpen.
[23:09] <TJ-> technocf, If you want to do this, tell me when you're at that stage and I'll guide you
[23:10] <yecril71pl> k1l: How do I mark 14.04 as affected?
[23:10] <k1l> yecril71pl: at the top of the bug report in launchpad.net
[23:10] <technocf> It's fine, I'll just see if it worked after the reboot, at that stage it doesn't matter where I try it
[23:11] <TJ-> yecril71pl, Yes, that's why it is Stable (where Stable means there are no behavioural changes since the release, except for fixing bugs) - -backports allows newer versions of packages but doesn't get security support
[23:11] <yecril71pl> k1l: there is no version to choose from in Also affects distribution/package
[23:12] <k1l> can you link the bug report?
[23:13] <yecril71pl> Is Bug #1391917
[23:14] <k1l> yecril71pl: i dont see a bug or security issue in there. just because a version is "old" doesnt mean it should be updated.
[23:15] <yecril71pl> See [Test case] section.
[23:15] <k1l> yecril71pl: LTS and stable means, that not all the packages get updated all the time, so you can rely on a stable base. like new version drop or inlcude new behavior which will break the old behaviour wich is expected with that ubuntu release
[23:16] <yecril71pl> I do not want the application to be updated, but the documentation is wrong.
[23:19] <nidhal> slt a ts j un probleme avec fdisk// fdisk: cannot open /dev/sdb: No medium found
[23:20] <TJ-> nidhal, what kind of device is sdb? A memory-card reader, a CD/DVD device?
[23:20] <MrElendig> sms language and french in one, what will be the next?
[23:20]  * yecril71pl reading https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[23:20] <yecril71pl> It says open Software Sources in the Dash
[23:21] <yecril71pl> but it is not installed
[23:21] <yecril71pl> Should I install it or is the page obsolete?
[23:21] <nidhal> j vient de cree une partion sur mon disque
[23:21] <k1l> yecril71pl: oh i see. maybe it was another bugtracker i had in mind, sorry. then make a comment there that this is still not fixed.
[23:21] <TJ-> yecril71pl, are you sure the documentation containing the error is part of the application package? How are you viewing that documentation, as a man-page, as HTML (if so, what is the URL), etc?
[23:22] <k1l> nidhal: this channel is english only. but you could try #ubuntu-fr
[23:22] <yecril71pl> TJ-: Help command in the application menu.
[23:22] <nidhal> sorry
[23:23] <TJ-> yecril71pl, Ahhh. The thing is, in Gnome, the Help menu links often open documentation from a totally separate package that isn't linked to the application. As I said earlier, it isn't unusual for that documentation to be very out of date.
[23:25] <yecril71pl> So how can I know what it opens?
[23:25] <yecril71pl> The argument is help:gnome-system-monitor
[23:27] <TJ-> yecril71pl, For installed packages I usually do "dpkg -L <package-name>" to list all the files in it, and then review the list looking for clues. I sometimes will pipe that output through 'grep' to find specific terms
[23:28] <Em096> Hello
[23:28] <yecril71pl> The documentation is bundled with the package.
[23:28] <TJ-> yecril71pl, Right, I see that on packages.ubuntu.com
[23:29] <TJ-> yecril71pl, so the cause is that upstream released a package with out-of-date documentation, which was packaged by Debian and imported to Ubuntu
[23:29] <Em096> I need help installing Ubuntu 14.4 internet :(
[23:29] <yecril71pl> TJ-: Sure it is.
[23:30] <k1l> yes, i think the motivation to sort that error in the 14.04 release is not high enough to do all the work to patch that package and do a SRU.
[23:31] <gnomish> What's the L stand for in TTL. Live like "a live broadcast", or "you only live once"?
[23:31] <yecril71pl> Should I install Software Sources?  The help page is written as if it were a given.
[23:32] <TJ-> yecril71pl, remind me - which Ubuntu release contains the correct documentation?
[23:33] <daftykins> gnomish: time to live - for the packet before it dies. it's a field that decrements before it's discarded.
[23:33] <yecril71pl> The help page is at help.ubuntu.com, it is not part of a release.
[23:33] <gnomish> Thank you :D
[23:34] <TJ-> yecril71pl, what is the exact URL?
[23:34] <yecril71pl> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[23:36] <TJ-> yecril71pl, I thought you were on about the system-monitor documentation page! That is what I was asking about.
[23:36] <yecril71pl> I am asking about Software Sources now.
[23:36] <yecril71pl> The help page looks like I should have it but I do not.
[23:37] <TJ-> yecril71pl, Software Sources is a sub-component of the Software Centre, and provides a GUI configuration tool for selecting the archive to use for packages, as well as which Components (main, universe, multiverse, restricted, partner) and -updates,-proposed,-backports and so on
[23:38] <yecril71pl> So you do not open it from Dash, do you?
[23:38] <k1l> yecril71pl: software sources (gtk) is the menu thing that pops up when you click in system settings -> updates&software
[23:38] <Rocketeer> So I have an interesting problem
[23:39] <TJ-> yecril71pl, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu#Ubuntu_Software_Tab
[23:39] <Rocketeer> I have a laptop with a dock and external monitor
[23:39] <daftykins> Rocketeer: can you put it all on one line please? reduce the spam.
[23:39] <Rocketeer> system settings > Display detects both my laptop screen and my monitor
[23:39] <yecril71pl> k1l: Nothing happens when I click that
[23:40] <yecril71pl> k1l: I see, it is a separate window and it is already open.  So the help page is wrong.
[23:40] <k1l> yecril71pl: which help page exactly?
[23:41] <yecril71pl> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[23:41] <Rocketeer> TL;DR then: Ubuntu settings detects my external monitor, but the external monitor says no signal from displayport. Furthermore, when ubuntu is booting up, the external monitor gets a signal, but upon logging in, the signal disappears.
[23:41] <yecril71pl> It says: On Ubuntu 11.04 and later, search for Software Sources in the Dash.
[23:41] <daftykins> Rocketeer: pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[23:42] <yecril71pl> k1l: When I search for that in the Dash, I get an application that I can install.
[23:42] <TJ-> Rocketeer, check "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" for clues
[23:42] <k1l> yecril71pl: that still should open it. the exact program name is software-properties-gtk but since the dash works with tags that should still open it.
[23:42] <k1l> yecril71pl: what ubuntu exactly? what desktop? is it a standard install or a minimal install?
[23:42] <Rocketeer> daftykins: It's long but here it is: http://pastebin.com/RuTkzPAU
[23:43] <daftykins> Rocketeer: ok you're not using a proper kernel.
[23:43] <yecril71pl> Is 14.04 LTS standard.  I am trying to figure out what the other thing is that Dash shows I do not have.
[23:43] <daftykins> Rocketeer: resolve that then we can see
[23:44] <Rocketeer> daftykins: ok lemme try that
[23:44] <yecril71pl> k1l: it is software-properties-kde, certainly not.
[23:45] <k1l> yecril71pl: so you are on kde?
[23:45] <Rocketeer> daftykins: Which kernel do I want? Should I just upgrade to 4.2?
[23:46] <daftykins> Rocketeer: no, that's mainline - run vivid official. 3.19.0-26 i believe it's at - install linux-generic
[23:46] <daftykins> why are you using an obscure one to begin with?
[23:46] <yecril71pl> k1l: I am on Unity, but the only thing that Dash finds for Software Sources is software-properties-kde.
[23:47] <Rocketeer> daftykins: installing linux-generic now, thanks
[23:47] <technocf> I swear to God that cryptsetup is broken.  I typed the password char for char during the installation and boot and it did not accept the password.  None of the chars that I used are in a different place on a US keyboard from the UK one.  I'm going to just have to rely on the home folder encryption.
[23:47] <TJ-> Rocketeer, No obvious problems there  - both outputs are enabled with 1920x108@60Hz ... I'd strongly suspect a DP cabling issue... has this worked at any time previously, or does it work with Windows for example?
[23:48] <Rocketeer> TJ: It worked before I logged in, so the cable is good.
[23:48] <daftykins> Rocketeer: should try your guest session then ;)
[23:48] <daftykins> that'd rule out user config
[23:48] <yecril71pl> k1l: and the thing that opens from settings is called Software and Updates, not Software Sources.
[23:48] <Rocketeer> daftykins: Will give that a shot as well
[23:48] <k1l> yecril71pl: the dash works with tags. so it still should find it
[23:49] <TJ-> Rocketeer, Sorry, I've got the memory of a goldfish this evening! The greeter shows up on both monitors is a good sign... in the user session what does "xrandr -q" report?
[23:49] <k1l> yecril71pl: i cant check that since i am not on a ubuntu right now
[23:49] <k1l> yecril71pl: make sure the package software-properties-gtk is installed
[23:51] <yecril71pl> dpkg says it is, Software Centre cannot find it.
[23:52] <Rocketeer_> Well, I ran apt-get install linux-generic, but still no luck with the external display. Furthermore, it does work with a guest session, so it's probably a user config issue.
[23:52] <k1l> yecril71pl: apt-cache policy software-properties-gtk
[23:53] <technocf> Ubuntu MATE does not spy on you as the Unity variant does am I correct in saying?
[23:53] <aZz7eCh> if i install ubuntu 14.04.01 64bit, and then do an update ... will it bring me up to 14.04.03 or whatever is latest
[23:53] <k1l> technocf: neither do spy on you.
[23:53] <yecril71pl> k1l: 0.92.37.3
[23:53] <Rocketeer_> technocf: A lot of privacy concerns with Unity were very overblown
[23:54] <technocf> The Amazon integration?
[23:54] <k1l> yecril71pl: is it installed or not?
[23:54] <k1l> technocf: see privacy settings in the system settings if you dont want that
[23:54] <yecril71pl> It is installed.
[23:54] <technocf> Unity is too heavy for my netbook anyway, i was just wondering.
[23:54] <Rocketeer_> technocf: There's an option in setting that lets you search amazon from the dash, that's it.
[23:55] <aZz7eCh> also - is it easy to install gnome2 instead of ... unity?
[23:55] <daftykins> technocf: usual comment of misinformation and FUD yours, really.
[23:55] <k1l> aZz7eCh: gnome2 is dead and not supported anymore.
[23:55] <Rocketeer_> aZz7eCh: You're better off with MATE or Cinammon
[23:55] <aZz7eCh> can you scroll up to my first question pls guys :)
[23:55] <Rocketeer_> MATE is exactly the same user interface wise
[23:56] <aZz7eCh> MATE okay i'll re-review it
[23:56] <k1l> aZz7eCh: an update will bring it to 14.04.3
[23:56] <aZz7eCh> thanks
[23:56] <TJ-> Rocketeer: in the user session what does "xrandr -q" report?
[23:56] <technocf> Does anyone know of the Elementary OS IRC channel name, I have a bone to pick with them.
[23:57] <daftykins> !elementary
[23:57] <technocf> Thankingyou
[23:58] <Rocketeer_> TJ: that reports this: http://pastebin.com/R1NjfJ22 which seems right
[23:58] <aZz7eCh> eOS is ... dreamy.