/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/09/01/#kubuntu-devel.txt

* ahoneybun runs wily now00:39
lordievaderGood morning.06:00
strayPuppyWoof06:03
lordievaderovidiu-florin: On the community page the Kubuntu Team page links to www-new.k.o06:14
soeegood morning06:15
ovidiu-florinlordievader: thanks, fixed06:58
lordievader:)07:27
sitterdoko: can test regressions on ppc64el stop a version from being considered for migration? if so both kate4 and umbrello failed because of resource limits and perhaps should be overridden08:19
sitterfrom what I understand currently kde4libs is not considered so kde4pimlibs is not considered so kdepimlibs can not be resolved08:20
sitterRiddell: baseapps transitioned \o/08:23
sitterRiddell: unfortunately you did not actually commit the patch file08:29
sitterRiddell: also you didn't tag the commit08:33
sitterRiddell: also when you pushed the patch please upload ubuntu4 to resolve a file conflict08:34
sitterRiddell: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kalarmcal08:46
sitterthis is not 15.0808:46
yofelsitter: there was a mail about ppc64el now having regression tests08:50
* sitter demands override08:50
kfunkhmmmm. are there any known issues with CPU frequency scaling under 15.10? using intel_pstate here; CPU freq is not scaled down08:52
kfunkthermald is installed08:52
yofel[09:06:35] <svuorela> https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/debhelper/debhelper.git/commit/?id=4e3fd5d6e9d5aa94a23a12739bee41a26a17797b08:53
yofel:O08:53
yofel\o/08:53
Riddellsitter: kde-baseapps up!08:53
Riddellsitter: kalarmcal up!08:55
sitterargh08:55
sitterjust when I wanted to tell you to wait :P08:55
sitterkalaramcal now has a symbols dump08:56
Riddellsitter: shall I upload again?08:57
Riddellkfunk: I guess we've no idea08:58
sitterRiddell: nah, will go through CI anyway08:58
sitteron that note seeing as all our symbol dumps should be gcc5ified I'll renable symbol updates in KCI next week probably08:58
sitterwhich will make kdepim fail because upstream didn't sobump when I said they need to sobump \o/09:00
prthhi Riddell :)09:08
prthRiddell, could we port Ubiquity to Qt 5 as a Season of KDE 2015 project?09:09
ubottuError: KDE bug 2015 could not be found09:09
Riddellprth: certainly :)09:10
Riddellis that starting?09:10
prthRiddell, no it isn't announced yet09:11
Riddellprth: how did your summer of code project go?09:11
prthgr8, I completed the project & passed :)09:12
bshahoh SoK... I totally missed that..09:13
bshahif there are no storms and zombies.. this week it might be announced..09:14
prthcool bshah09:15
dokositter, I think ppc64el fails are now considered. but maybe ask pitti. however resource limits on ppc64el sound strange09:19
soeeRiddell: any news about fixes for this: libstreamanalyzer0 : Depends: libclucene-core1 (>= 2.3.3.4) but it is not installable ?09:23
sittersoee: sudo apt-get -o Debug::pkgProblemResolver=true dist-upgrade09:24
soeesitter: it shows the same message :)09:25
soee*error09:25
sitterit should show more09:25
soeesitter: but when trying to install libstreamanalyzer0v5 -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12244195/09:26
sittersudo apt-get -o Debug::pkgProblemResolver=true install09:27
soeesitter: same one message09:29
sitterwhat the09:29
sittersudo apt-get -o Debug::pkgProblemResolver=true install -f09:29
soeei think Riddell mentioned it was something with something with kde4libs not updating 09:29
sitterpossibly09:29
sitterthat one is also being held hostage09:29
sitterfor like 2 weeks09:29
soeesitter: there we go http://paste.ubuntu.com/12244210/09:31
dokositter, Riddell : yesterday I binNMUd smokekde and it picked up a new dependency on kde4libs. so something maybe needs rebuilds?09:34
sittersoee: yeah it appears that your entire kde4 stack has a dep problem because parts of kde4 packages are being held in proposed and part of your system had ppa packages that were ahead of what was in wily09:38
Riddellnew networkmanager-qt going up to pick up network-manager 1.0.4 on arm64, then we can rebuild plasma-workspace09:39
sitterdoko: I don't know what that means I am afraid09:40
soeesitter: is it fixable somehow ?09:41
yofelI think the only thing that uses smoke are the perl and ruby bindings, so maybe those..09:42
sittersoee: yes by waiting09:42
sitterubuntu3  Depends: libc6 (>= 2.14), libkdecore5 (>= 4:4.14.2), libkdeui5 (>= 4:4.14.2), libkio5, libkparts4 (>= 4:4.14.2), libqt4-xml (>= 4:4.5.3), libqtcore4 (>= 4:4.7.0~beta1), libqtgui4 (>= 4:4.5.3), libsmokebase3v5 (>= 4:4.14.3), libsmokekio3 (= 4:4.14.2-0ubuntu4), libstdc++6 (>= 5.2)09:42
soeesitter: sounds reasonable, thank you for your help.09:42
sittereh09:42
sitterubuntu3 Depends: libc6 (>= 2.14), libkdecore5 (>= 4:4.14.2), libkdeui5 (>= 4:4.14.2), libkio5 (>= 4:4.14.2), libkparts4 (>= 4:4.14.2), libqt4-xml (>= 4:4.5.3), libqtcore4 (>= 4:4.7.0~beta1), libqtgui4 (>= 4:4.5.3), libsmokebase3v5 (>= 4:4.11.1), libsmokekio3 (= 4:4.14.2-0ubuntu3), libstdc++6 (>= 5.2)09:42
sitterubuntu4  Depends: libc6 (>= 2.14), libkdecore5 (>= 4:4.14.2), libkdeui5 (>= 4:4.14.2), libkio5, libkparts4 (>= 4:4.14.2), libqt4-xml (>= 4:4.5.3), libqtcore4 (>= 4:4.7.0~beta1), libqtgui4 (>= 4:4.5.3), libsmokebase3v5 (>= 4:4.14.3), libsmokekio3 (= 4:4.14.2-0ubuntu4), libstdc++6 (>= 5.2)09:42
sitternote the libkio5 09:43
sitterthat's a bit odd I guess09:44
sitterdoko: generally I would expect smokekde to tighlty link with the kde4libs though seeing as smoke is wrapping them for perl and ruby bindings09:44
Riddellsoee: kde4libs just got accepted into wily10:05
soeeRiddell: how long will it take to have it in archive ?10:10
Riddellsoee: depends when the index gets regenerated, once an hour maybe, then if you use a mirror you'll need to wait for that to sync10:13
clivejoRiddell: any progress on the PIM transition?10:17
Riddellclivejo: some test failure in kdepim, I guess I'll just force that in10:27
sitterRiddell: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html#kde-baseapps10:27
sitterbaseapps not happy to install10:27
Riddell"ERROR: erroneous package: Test dependencies are unsatisfiable." uh huh10:28
Riddellyou know I can't think of a single issue this testing stuff has even caught10:28
sitternot being able to install the test deps seems like an issue alright :P10:30
Riddellyay gwenview got accepted10:49
* Riddell uploads kdepim with testsuite running kdeinit5 not 410:50
Riddelloh got goodness sakes, acc succenly failing on networkmanager-qt https://objectstorage.prodstack4-5.canonical.com/v1/AUTH_77e2ada1e7a84929a74ba3b87153c0ac/autopkgtest-wily/wily/amd64/n/networkmanager-qt/20150901_103336@/log.gz10:54
Riddelleven though it was a no change rebuild10:54
ScottKRiddell: I got your SRU in yesterday.11:01
RiddellScottK: lovely thanks11:02
Riddellanyone tried the kubuntu mobile image lately? I'm just getting EOFs :(11:03
sitterRiddell: did you get to the bottom of baseapps?11:06
sitteroh actually my breaks was crap11:08
Riddellsitter: maybe, I fixed the debian/tests/testsuit file12:11
Riddelloh no that was kdepim12:11
Riddellbaseapps is moaning about test dependencies which I've no idea what the issue is12:13
BluesKajHey folks12:13
sitterRiddell: dolphin4 was not installable because I screwed up the version in the breaks12:13
sitterRiddell: gwenview tests should now pass in autopkgtest12:14
sitter  Uploading gwenview_15.08.0-0ubuntu2.dsc: g1done.12:14
Riddellsitter: I'll retry kde-baseapps on armhf, it failed but looks like a chroot error12:28
sitterk12:29
Riddelloh there's a new network-manager compile, I wonder if that's what is causing the regression in acc in networkmanager-qt12:39
Riddellcyphermox: got any opinion on that? ^^12:39
cyphermoxregression in acc?12:40
Riddellcyphermox: abi-compliance-checker not happy suddenly after a no change rebuild https://objectstorage.prodstack4-5.canonical.com/v1/AUTH_77e2ada1e7a84929a74ba3b87153c0ac/autopkgtest-wily/wily/amd64/n/networkmanager-qt/20150901_110212@/log.gz12:44
soeeRiddell: are those kde4libs already in Wily ?12:44
cyphermoxwell, maybe12:45
Riddellsoee: yep https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde4libs 4:4.14.11-0ubuntu2 12:45
cyphermoxRiddell: was there ever another build of network-manager-qt against NM 1.0.0?12:45
Riddellcyphermox: yes 5.13.0-0ubuntu2 was12:46
Riddelland that passed tests fine12:46
cyphermoxhmm12:46
cyphermoxthat sounds unlikely then, but I don't know12:46
sitterRiddell: ubuntu2 did not pass either12:47
cyphermoxthe change in NM was just trying to fix up tests12:47
Riddellsitter: oh ok12:47
sitterhttp://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/n/networkmanager-qt/wily/amd64/12:47
Riddellmaybe the acc file needs refaffed12:47
sitterthat would still constitute a upstream SIC though TBH12:48
sitterSC shouldn't change by switching out the underlying libnm me thinks12:48
soeeRiddell: apt-get -f install wants to remove kubuntu-desktop and others http://paste.ubuntu.com/12245161/12:48
sittersoee: always run with the debug option12:50
Riddellsoee: kdepim issues I guess12:51
sittermost of them are fine really12:51
sitterall the libs are dead12:51
sitterpretty much everything that isn't a lib should not be uninstalled though12:52
sitterand for skanlite for example I don't see how it might have kdepim in the dep tree12:52
* Riddell fixes rocs for broken tests12:53
soeeRiddell, sitter: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12245211/12:55
Riddelllordievader: bug 1488843 needs testing if you want to be useful (and have working upgrades :)13:01
ubottubug 1488843 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu Vivid) "SRU: upgrader kde frontend fails to start" [Critical,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/148884313:01
lordievaderI'm not at home, so I cannot test, sorry.13:02
sitterRiddell: are we planning any more kdepim uploads this week?13:41
sitterbecause I now have symbols dumps for all libs13:42
sitterbut I am bit scared that for reasons beyond me this will break building :P13:42
* sitter lost all trust in kdepim libs pretty much13:42
sitterah well13:44
sitterif they cause trouble simply revert I guess13:44
sittersoee: ah looks like qca transition is the culprit of all removals and that in turn is blocked by kdepim13:45
sitterso yeah, more waiting13:45
Riddellsitter: not that I know of13:46
sitterRiddell: assuming your kdepim test fix works I think all our packages should now be valid canidates for transition13:48
sitterI just hope the kdepim-runtime stuff isn't gonna block :/13:48
* Riddell cheers as plasma-desktop khotkeys and powerdevil goes in wily13:51
sitterRiddell: unless I screwed up somehow all new pimlibs now have symbols staged in git but not uploaded (landing with .1)13:54
sitteron the plus side mid-term I actually already have QA tech to detect missing symbols btw. just not active right now :P13:55
Riddellnice13:56
soeesitter: ok, thanks for investigation13:58
Riddellanyone know about abi-compliance-checker errors? cos networkmanager-qt logs show lots http://embra.edinburghlinux.co.uk/~jr/tmp/log.txt14:07
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Riddellhmm, cyphermox, doko know anything about  abi-compliance-checker errors? ^14:12
cyphermoxRiddell: sounds to me like there probably is an issue is how it's trying to do checks. some of these redefinitions might be because of changes in libnm-util/libnm-glib and libnm itself, and confusing for acc14:15
Riddellclivejo: new calligra out if you're up for a challenge :)14:15
cyphermoxRiddell: but I wouldn't know more than that, I never really used it14:15
clivejoRiddell: where do you find out about new releases?14:16
Riddellclivejo: subscribe yourself to kde release-team mailing list14:17
sitterRiddell, cyphermox: picks up wrong nm-client.h14:22
sitterprobably same for nm-access-point.h14:22
sitterIn file included from /usr/include/libnm-glib/nm-client.h:31:0,14:23
sitter                 from /usr/include/libnm/NetworkManager.h:28,14:23
sitterI think that should be including libnm/nm-client.h14:23
sitterlibnm-glib-dev:amd64: /usr/include/libnm-glib/nm-client.h14:23
sitterlibnm-dev:amd64: /usr/include/libnm/nm-client.h14:23
sittercyphermox: do we even still need libnm-glib-dev or is that fully replaced by libnm-dev?14:24
cyphermoxsitter: not sure. I think you'll still need it14:24
cyphermoxfor this tbh I would ask upstream :/14:25
sitterRiddell: ^ you'll want to socialize a bit :P14:25
sitter#include <nm-client.h>14:25
sitterwhy the NetworkManager.h doesn't use "" is beyond me14:26
sitter               libnm-dev | hello,14:27
sitter               libnm-glib-dev (>= 0.9.10.0),14:27
sitter               libnm-util-dev (>= 0.9.10.0),14:27
sitterright14:27
sitterso14:27
sitterI am reasonable certain that shadeslayer is wasting Riddell's time by having applied a non-fix I said to avoid14:27
sitterdebian only bdeps libnm and libnm-util, glib so I am lead to assume that libnm-glib-dev is no longer necessary14:28
sitterRiddell: ditch glib and it should work14:28
sitterand don't forget to update the -dev Depends to libnm-dev14:28
Riddellmm thanks14:29
sitterRiddell: in fact you can simply merge master14:29
sitterseems to me it will conflict there anyway14:29
sitterby simply I of course mean you need to do a merge :P14:30
shadeslayerwhat what14:37
clivejoI cant find a new version of calligra, just 2.9.6 - http://download.kde.org/stable/calligra-2.9.6/14:40
Riddellclivejo: oh you might need special powers14:40
clivejoInvisibility would a cool power14:42
Riddellclivejo: I can't help there, but I can give you  scp ftpubuntu@depot.kde.org:stable/calligra-2.9.7/* .14:42
clivejoanyone know why I have two volume controls now?14:47
Riddellclivejo: plasma-pa got added, kmix is still around I guess14:50
Riddellalthough plasma-pa ought to have some upgrade magic to remove kmix autostart14:50
Riddellspeaking of kmix, it won't compile, some problem in automoc I can't work out :(  kmix itself hasn't changed14:51
kfunkRiddell: +1 for killing kmix14:51
clivejoIm getting lots of emails about kmix failing to build14:51
kfunkhad to purge it as well /o\14:51
Riddellkfunk: why don't you like it?14:51
kfunkRiddell: b/c there's plasma-pa!14:51
Riddellah :)14:51
dokoRiddell, no, didn'T use acc yet14:54
shadeslayerRiddell: what broke?14:54
shadeslayerwhy am I being blamed14:54
yofelshadeslayer: you are being accused of applying wrong workarounds to networkmanagerQt14:59
shadeslayerwhy14:59
shadeslayerelaborate14:59
shadeslayerelaborateeee!14:59
shadeslayer:P14:59
* yofel just imagines that in a dalek voice14:59
shadeslayer^^15:00
Riddellclivejo: did you get calligra?15:04
clivejothink so15:07
Riddellnetworkmanager-qt uploaded, maybe that'll fix the acc regression15:10
RiddellI have no idea what that acc test does, there's nothing for it to test against15:10
clivejoRiddell: Im not going to look at this today, Im too angry15:14
Riddellclivejo: don't worry no rush, what's causing the anger?15:15
clivejoThree15:16
clivejothey wont let me use the Three in Touch application because Im connecting from a "foreign" network15:16
Riddelloh mobile phone companies will make one angry15:17
RiddellI just switched to thepeoplesoperator.com because they have jimmy wales running it (and 4GB of data for £10 a month is better than anyone else), but I'm sure it's only a matter of time before I fall out of love with them15:18
clivejoaye, yet their tag line is When stuff siucks #makeitright15:18
clivejoI was paying for 10Gb of data on O2, but their network is so pathetic in this area I could only connect at 2G speeds15:19
dokoRiddell, do you think kde will migrate today?15:24
Riddelldoko: seems like regressions in kdepim being installable on arm and ppc64 are the blockers, I've no idea how to investigate those15:29
dokoRiddell, armhf or arm64?15:29
Riddelldoko: armhf15:30
Riddellsomething uninstallable https://objectstorage.prodstack4-5.canonical.com/v1/AUTH_77e2ada1e7a84929a74ba3b87153c0ac/autopkgtest-wily/wily/armhf/k/kdepim/20150901_135519@/log.gz15:30
dokoRiddell, hmm, can't see any obvious15:55
dokoall b-d's install15:55
To24Hi!15:59
To24kubuntu.com is not working16:00
RiddellTo24: website is at kubuntu.org16:03
Riddellshadeslayer: how do I install ruby foo? "cannot load such file -- jenkins_api_client"16:04
shadeslayerbundle install16:04
shadeslayerif you're using pangea-tooling16:04
To24Thanks, Riddell, this is a "fast bug report" :-), previously, kubuntu.com redirected to kubuntu.org16:06
To24But nowadays, an ugly Apache page is shown.16:06
To24Kubuntu is a great project! THANKS!!!!16:06
shadeslayerRiddell: otherwise, it's gem install foo16:11
Riddellshadeslayer: nifty16:12
Riddellthanks To24 :)16:12
To24I have a lot to thank you :-)16:12
dokoRiddell, kdebase-apps still b-d's on libbaloowidgets-dev, however that one isn't built anymore. and libkf5baloowidgets-dev isn't recognized18:41
Riddelldoko: ok I'll remove b-d then18:42
dokoRiddell, builds without it18:43
clivejosoee: o/19:51
DarkwingHuh...19:56
DarkwingAnyway, installing Beta1 this morning19:56
Darkwingubu-timezone failed out.19:56
Riddellmove to a better timezone?19:57
DarkwingLOL19:57
Darkwingso, no option to set TZ in ubiquity19:57
soeehey ...19:57
soeei have this second time:19:58
soeeby some reason (maybe running some command with kdesudo - kdesudo software-properties-kde) in my home folder file .Xauthority was owned by root .. this leads to unable start sddm/login etc. I have changed owner/group to my user but still was the same problem with login until i removed this file and it was regenerated and now system works again.20:01
soeeany idea what can trigger this .Xauthority owner change to root ?20:01
soeeRiddell: ^20:02
Riddellnope20:02
valorieI see people all the time talking about running systemsettings as root20:07
valoriecrazy talk20:07
soeei never run then as root, just software-properties-kde last day i think20:08
soee*them20:08
keithzgI've had to run systemsettings as root before, but that's in very strange circumstances and not for quite some time now.20:09
soeewell the good news is that after fixing this UFO, Wily works perfect again :-)20:10
keithzgsoee: you sure you haven't run some other GUI app with plain 'ol sudo at some point recently? That's traditionally been the primary way folks end up with a root-owned .Xauthority in their home directory.20:11
soeejust this bug when plasma-pa icon is not rendered in systray20:11
soeekeithzg: could be but i don't remember it :/20:11
keithzgsoee: fair enough20:11
ahoneybunI see we have a sound bar that is Breeze themed20:12
ahoneybunbut I still have the oxygen one 20:12
soeeahoneybun: in systray ?20:12
ahoneybunthat too20:12
ahoneybunI have double20:12
clivejoI have double too!20:13
ahoneybunbut I was talking about when you press the volume keys20:13
soeewell you can remove kmix, but with plasma-pa you can't control separate channels 20:13
soeeto do it you have to go System Settings :)20:13
ahoneybunkmix handles chrome and firefox from the system 20:13
ahoneybunwhich is cool20:13
soeeahoneybun: new section in Multimedia does the same20:14
ahoneybunmm20:14
ahoneybuntbh the onlything I've looked at in 5.4 is the new launcher :)20:15
ahoneybunI liked the homerun one so I was happy to see a new fullscreen one20:15
clivejofull screen one?20:15
ahoneybunyea20:15
soee:) There is new section in Multimedia, Gamma section in Screen and Display20:15
ahoneybunsweet20:15
clivejoI like it20:15
clivejodont like my systray icons getting tiny20:16
soeethere was widget in KDE4 - quicklauncher or something20:16
ahoneybunI see a sddm theme update soee20:16
soeewhere you had option to configure rows etc = icon sizes20:16
* ahoneybun needs a SSD for his gaming machine now lol20:17
soeeahoneybun: PS or laptop ?20:17
ahoneybunmmm20:17
ahoneybun?20:17
soeePC20:17
ahoneybunDesktop20:17
valorieit never stops, ahoneybun -- as soon as you get some new equipment, you need more new gear20:17
ahoneybunrunning wily on my laptop and gaming desktop20:17
ahoneybunvalorie: well this desktop is 4 years old20:17
ahoneybunthe laptop is 220:17
soeehave sdd here in laptop since 2 months20:17
soeemuch faster but fan much louder :/20:18
ahoneybunmy first and only custom build runs kubuntu wily20:18
ahoneybunto keep up with the new drive soee lol20:18
soeeahoneybun: hows the game you mentioned yesterday ?20:18
ahoneybunthis machine is a AMD build valorie20:18
ahoneybunsoee: it is fun20:18
ahoneybunweird ending though20:19
ahoneybunLord of the Rings themed20:19
soeefinished already ? :O20:19
ahoneybunI had played a lot on windows20:19
ahoneybunthen I moved to Kubuntu fulltime20:19
ahoneybunjust never finished it till a linux port was out20:19
valorieSysinfo for 'valorie-HP-Pavilion-dv7-Notebook-PC': Running inside KDE Plasma 5.2.2 on Ubuntu 15.04 (Vivid Vervet) powered by Linux 3.19.0-26-generic, CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3610QM CPU @ 2.30GHz at 3099-3136/3300 MHz, RAM: 7546/7883 MB, Storage: 621/797 GB, 289 procs, 38.89h up20:20
valoriethis is my son's "old" gaming laptop20:20
ahoneybunfunny to see streaming being an option in linux20:20
ahoneybunmmm20:21
valoriedunno how long I'll be able to hold off upgrading to wily20:21
valorieso tempted20:21
ahoneybuncpu is from Q2 201220:21
valoriebut while it's damp, I should go to the nursery and get some more plants20:21
ahoneybunstill holds well of course20:22
clivejoahoneybun: you should package calligra2.9.7 for vivid20:22
clivejobut your new SSD and CPU to work20:22
ahoneybunvalorie: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMD_Accelerated_Processing_Unit#K10_architecture_.282011.29:_Llano20:22
ahoneybunthe first APU from AMD20:22
ahoneybungaming in a CPU20:22
ahoneybunlol20:22
* ahoneybun laughs at clivejo20:23
ahoneybunthat is a mess I might do 20:23
ahoneybunwho knows20:23
clivejo3 hours later and Im only at 63%20:23
ahoneybuncalligra?20:24
clivejoyup20:24
ahoneybunthese codenames from AMD for the APU are so cool20:24
ahoneybunclivejo: send me the source files and I'll try thursday maybe20:24
clivejothese personalised adverts really freak me out!20:25
ahoneybun?20:25
clivejomy name was on a suitecase for virgin holidays :/20:25
ahoneybunI might change my build from Intel to AMD 20:26
ahoneybunoh it is lol20:26
ahoneybunthe FX 20:26
valorieoff to the nursery20:30
DarkwingDoes harold lurk here anymore?20:34
ahoneybunDarkwing: he comes from time to time21:16
ahoneybunhe was at akademy21:16
* clivejo falls asleep 21:29
valorieDarkwing: sitter logs out, rather than lurking22:39
valoriehe's here during his work day22:39
* ahoneybun thinks valorie should join in #wikitolearn22:44
valoriedone22:45
ahoneybunvalorie: I have it here: http://192.254.78.155/23:06
ahoneybunas well23:06
ahoneybunwith sphinx so really we could just throw it on docs.kubuntu.org or something and throw a link on the site (done)23:06
valoriemoar backups are always good!23:06
valoriecool23:07
ahoneybunfunny story23:07
ahoneybunmy that server is hosted by my friend who LOVES GNOME 323:07
ahoneybunXD23:07
ahoneybunnot so much love for KDE23:07
ahoneybunvalorie: if I remember right i have access to docs.kubuntu.org so I could move it as soon as today really23:08
ahoneybunI just got lazy tbh with the theming it23:08
ahoneybunvalorie: let me reboot and see if SDDM is going to beat me like soee lol23:11
valoriemy rebooting was entirely unexciting23:12
ahoneybunand I'm back23:15
ahoneybunbut me and soee have NVIDIA hardware23:15
ahoneybunso very exciting23:15
thelionroars!testers23:40
ubottutesters is Help is needed in #kubuntu-devel. Please ping Riddell, yofel, soee, Tm_T, shadeslayer, BluesKaj, James147, Quintasan, lordievader, shrini, tester56, parad1se, mamarley, alket, SourBlues, sgclark, neo31, vip, mparillo for information23:40
thelionroarssorry about the highlight23:40
thelionroarsbut if you see this, feel free to add me to testers23:40
thelionroarsthansk23:40
thelionroars*thanks23:40
* ahoneybun has no idea why he is not on there23:44
valoriethelionroars: what are you interested in testing?23:46
thelionroarsupcoming releases of kubuntu23:46
valorieright now it is possible to test the upgrade to Wily beta23:46
valorieor a guess a fresh install as well23:47
valoriehttp://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker23:48
valorieget to kubuntu, check out an ISO, and do the tests23:48
valoriereport on the qa site, and file bugs if necessary23:49
thelionroarsI'm downloading the beta1 iso now23:49
thelionroarsI'd need a bit of prep work to be able to test the upgrade to the beta23:49
valorieI've tested the upgrade from alpha to beta, but not 15.04 to beta23:50
valorieno backup done on this box yet23:50
valorieand I'll never do an upgrade without a fresh backup23:50
thelionroarsyes I really need to clean out all the cruft and make sure everything is fully backed up, I do it completely ad-hoc atm23:51
ahoneybunI upgraded from 15.04 to 15.1023:53
ahoneybunworked fine but that networkmanger issue23:53
valoriewell, I'm in better shape than I was before my last bad upgrade23:54
valoriebut it's too painful to contemplate even the possibility23:54
* ahoneybun wanted Plasma 5.4 badly enough23:58

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