rony | hello | 03:44 |
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rony | everybody | 03:44 |
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lordievader | Good morning. | 06:00 |
Silmarilion | Hi does anybody know where is the option to disable the remember open apps when shutting down? | 06:17 |
Silmarilion | found it | 06:18 |
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noums | hello every body ... I am trying to upgrade my kubuntu 14.04 to 15.04 ... can someone help me ? | 07:13 |
hateball | noums: What seems to be the issue? | 07:14 |
noums | i tryed multiple command like this "sudo do-release-upgrade -d", or this "sudo kubuntu-devel-release-upgrade" bet nothing is happening | 07:15 |
soee | i'm not sure if such upgrade is supported, hmm | 07:17 |
soee | well maybe it is :) | 07:19 |
hateball | noums: It is likely that your settings are to only go from LTS to LTS | 07:31 |
noums | thanks ... Ia going to try to change config to see if it works better | 07:32 |
hateball | noums: And 14.04 is the current LTS release. So if you want to change that, you can go into Muon and change settings from LTS only | 07:32 |
hateball | Then you'll have to upgrade 14.04 -> 14.10 -> 15.04 | 07:32 |
lordievader | Wich will be interesting since 14.10 is EOL. | 07:35 |
hateball | Well, there are other ways.... | 07:38 |
lordievader | Indeed, reinstalling is likely easier and faster. | 07:39 |
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Isotop7 | is kubuntu planning to support more devices with kubuntu phone? | 09:08 |
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yossarianuk | Is anyone aware of a keyboard shortcut in konsole (or maybe just general Linux) that outputs the /etc/hosts contents ? | 10:42 |
yossarianuk | I ask as everytime my 2rd old bangs my keyboard randomly he manages to do that (there is no way he he doing .cat /etc/hosts' | 10:43 |
diafour_ | less /etc/hosts ? ;] | 10:45 |
yossarianuk | diafour_: pretty sure he's not typing a command... its like some odd shortcut ... | 10:57 |
yossarianuk | (not a major issue just interested in how he keep doing it.) | 10:57 |
diafour_ | awh... 2 year old? | 10:58 |
diafour_ | Just press page up and enter. May be cat /etc/hosts is a first line in your history. | 10:59 |
yossarianuk | diafour_: i've check and there is no line... maybe when he grows up a but he'll tell daddy... | 11:00 |
lordievader | ctrl +r -> c -> enter? | 11:05 |
diafour_ | man bash | 11:07 |
diafour_ | /complete-hostname | 11:07 |
diafour_ | =) | 11:07 |
admin4ek | hello | 11:22 |
admin4ek | any body use QHD+ ultrabook | 11:23 |
abel__ | dasd | 11:46 |
abel__ | hi all | 11:46 |
amichair_ | any news on plasma 5.4.0 backport? | 11:51 |
BluesKaj | Hey folks | 12:13 |
lordievader | o/ | 12:15 |
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EvilRoey | lordievader: \o | 12:51 |
EvilRoey | hey BluesKaj | 12:51 |
EvilRoey | lordievader, BluesKaj: are you guys Ubuntu or Blue Systems staff? | 12:51 |
BluesKaj | ev` I'm neither | 12:52 |
EvilRoey | ah ok | 12:52 |
BluesKaj | EvilRoey ^ | 12:52 |
EvilRoey | BluesKaj: but I see you here offering support, are you involved officially with Kubuntu? | 12:53 |
BluesKaj | < --- a home user who tests kubuntu | 12:53 |
EvilRoey | aha! | 12:53 |
EvilRoey | ok | 12:53 |
EvilRoey | I am a home user as well | 12:53 |
EvilRoey | currently I have an issue getting my backup HD to mount (same issue as a few months back) | 12:54 |
BluesKaj | EvilRoey, do you have the HDD as an entry in /etc/fstab? | 12:56 |
lordievader | EvilRoey: No. | 12:56 |
lordievader | EvilRoey: How are you trying to mount it? | 12:56 |
BluesKaj | well, you should | 12:56 |
Graf_Westerholt | BluesKaj, that is wrong. | 12:57 |
Graf_Westerholt | I do not have an entry in fstab and it works fine. | 12:57 |
BluesKaj | works here Graf_Westerholt | 12:57 |
lordievader | Graf_Westerholt: You let KDE mount it? | 12:57 |
lordievader | I allways dislike DE's mounting my stuff. | 12:57 |
Graf_Westerholt | BluesKaj, you can also do a rain dance, it will work for you with your disk, but also without the rain dance. | 12:57 |
Graf_Westerholt | lordievader, yes, KDE. | 12:58 |
BluesKaj | Graf_Westerholt, I prefer a shorter UUID than a bunch of numbers and letters | 12:58 |
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Graf_Westerholt | BluesKaj, I do not care about an UUID. | 12:58 |
Graf_Westerholt | BluesKaj, I guess you do it a lot wrong. | 12:59 |
BluesKaj | i don't care thay you don't care, Graf_Westerholt so stop interefering , you do it your way | 12:59 |
lordievader | A UUID is determined by the filesystem type? | 12:59 |
lordievader | Anyhow, EvilRoey how are you trying to mount it? | 13:00 |
BluesKaj | I was making a sugestion that works for most users | 13:00 |
Graf_Westerholt | BluesKaj, you can suggest a rain dance and it will work, because it also work without a rain dance. | 13:06 |
BluesKaj | Graf_Westerholt, you're going on ignore, sop dopn't waste your energy on me | 13:07 |
Graf_Westerholt | BluesKaj, but the people who wants real help can still read me. :P | 13:08 |
EvilRoey | <BluesKaj> EvilRoey, do you have the HDD as an entry in /etc/fstab? | 13:44 |
EvilRoey | er kinda? | 13:44 |
EvilRoey | not sure if the UUID is there, lemme check | 13:44 |
EvilRoey | lordievader: trying to mount it with the mount command: mount /backup | 13:44 |
EvilRoey | oh I see that I don't use UUIDs for the backup drives | 13:45 |
EvilRoey | I just have it as /dev/sdc /backup in fstab | 13:45 |
EvilRoey | sudo mount /backup works | 13:45 |
EvilRoey | er | 13:45 |
EvilRoey | it reutrns without visible error | 13:45 |
EvilRoey | but then I don't see it actually mounted when I issue "mount" | 13:46 |
lordievader | EvilRoey: No errors? So it is mounted? | 13:47 |
EvilRoey | er I don't think it is mounted, no. | 13:47 |
lordievader | EvilRoey: What is the output of 'mount'? | 13:48 |
EvilRoey | it is missing that entry showing that the disk is mounted | 13:48 |
EvilRoey | (obviously it is not) | 13:48 |
EvilRoey | I'd paste you the stuff but really I need to be next to the disk to be able to turn it on/off and see any changes in syslog or dmesg | 13:48 |
lordievader | EvilRoey: Could you pastbin your /etc/fstab and the output of 'sudo mount -v /backup'? | 13:49 |
EvilRoey | sure. | 13:49 |
EvilRoey | lordievader: http://pastebin.com/Ge8SjgUC | 13:50 |
lordievader | Hmm, and the fstab? | 13:51 |
EvilRoey | # 20140626 Roey Katz: Dirvish backup drive | 13:53 |
EvilRoey | /dev/sdc /backup ext4 nofail,noatime,defaults 0 2 | 13:53 |
EvilRoey | 20150901 09:52:52 roey@gear:~$ | 13:53 |
Graf_Westerholt | EvilRoey, why do you want to mount it in the terminal? | 13:53 |
EvilRoey | well I have it auotmatically monting at startup | 13:53 |
EvilRoey | but the reason I mount it in the terminal, | 13:53 |
EvilRoey | is because I swap it every few weeks with an identically-sized hard drive | 13:53 |
EvilRoey | I rotate backup drives | 13:53 |
lordievader | EvilRoey: You put the filesystem right on the blockdevice? | 13:53 |
lordievader | No partition table? | 13:53 |
EvilRoey | oh you mean instead of a partition? | 13:53 |
EvilRoey | em yeah I guess | 13:54 |
lordievader | Yes. | 13:54 |
EvilRoey | there's no difference for me in terms of performance or functionality | 13:54 |
EvilRoey | I mean my system's drive is partitioned | 13:54 |
lordievader | EvilRoey: Could you pastebin the output of 'sudo parted /dev/sdc'? | 13:54 |
EvilRoey | of course | 13:54 |
Graf_Westerholt | EvilRoey, so you are having your backup drive always connected to your PC? | 13:54 |
EvilRoey | Error: Could not stat device /dev/sdc - No such file or directory. | 13:54 |
EvilRoey | Graf_Westerholt: yeah | 13:54 |
Graf_Westerholt | EvilRoey, than it is not a backup. You are doing it all wrong. | 13:55 |
EvilRoey | Graf_Westerholt: yeah I run dirvish so it incrementally backs up every night | 13:55 |
EvilRoey | Graf_Westerholt: and then I swap it out periodically with another drive | 13:55 |
EvilRoey | so that even if I lose the comptuer, I still have my data (minus a week or so) | 13:55 |
lordievader | EvilRoey: There is your issue. | 13:55 |
EvilRoey | lordievader: how so | 13:55 |
Graf_Westerholt | EvilRoey, if yor PC gets demage do high voltage or something it will destroy also the packup. You never do it the way you do now. | 13:55 |
EvilRoey | Graf_Westerholt: what's the correct way then? | 13:55 |
lordievader | EvilRoey: You are trying to mount sdc, according to your output there is no sdc. | 13:55 |
Graf_Westerholt | EvilRoey, you should read how to do backups right. | 13:56 |
EvilRoey | lordievader: right. Like I said, I'd go at my drive and turn it off/on to determine the bigger issue | 13:56 |
lordievader | It't external? | 13:56 |
EvilRoey | Graf_Westerholt: you're antagonizing me with your non-constructive condescension. | 13:56 |
Graf_Westerholt | EvilRoey, ok, go on and lose your data. | 13:56 |
EvilRoey | Graf_Westerholt: please don't talk to me. Thank you. | 13:56 |
lordievader | EvilRoey: Is sdc external? | 13:58 |
EvilRoey | lordievader: correct | 14:08 |
EvilRoey | Graf_Westerholt: like, that's the worst advice you can possibly give anyone. | 14:08 |
EvilRoey | Graf_Westerholt: "you're doing it all wrong". Really? When your only quip with what I described is that it's connected to my computer. | 14:09 |
EvilRoey | Graf_Westerholt: doesn't sound at all "all wrong" | 14:09 |
lordievader | EvilRoey: Then you really want to mount by UUID. | 14:11 |
lordievader | EvilRoey: Just ignore him ;) | 14:11 |
EvilRoey | :) | 14:13 |
EvilRoey | lordievader: I'll have lines in fstab for both drives then, aye | 14:14 |
EvilRoey | lordievader: so this issue is interesting because in the past, all I did was run "gparted" on the drive--not even change it--and then I found I could mount it | 14:14 |
lordievader | EvilRoey: Could you pastebin the output of 'ls /dev/sd*'? | 14:15 |
kamil_ | hi guys, i have weird problem | 14:17 |
kamil_ | when i connect my speakers to laptop, they dont play | 14:17 |
kamil_ | i have to manually change connector from speakers to HEADPHONES, and then speakers will play | 14:18 |
EvilRoey | lordievader: it's udev so it'll show a bunch I figure... hold on | 14:18 |
kamil_ | is it annoying and weird, do you have any idea? | 14:18 |
EvilRoey | kamil_: what kind of conncetion is it | 14:19 |
EvilRoey | lordievader: 20150901 09:54:39 roey@gear:~$ ls /dev/sd* | 14:19 |
EvilRoey | /dev/sda /dev/sda1 /dev/sda2 | 14:19 |
EvilRoey | oh. Hrm. | 14:19 |
kamil_ | EvilRoey: i have combo jack in my laptop | 14:19 |
EvilRoey | lordievader: I guess the system didn't pick it up when I connected it. | 14:19 |
EvilRoey | kamil_: ah.. I meant, is it USB or headphone jack? | 14:19 |
EvilRoey | alsamixer | 14:19 |
kamil_ | it is jack | 14:20 |
EvilRoey | sometimes it might be muted | 14:20 |
EvilRoey | ok | 14:20 |
amichair_ | hey guys, any news on plasma 5.4.0 backport? | 14:20 |
EvilRoey | so you can try alsamixer and then pavucontrol | 14:20 |
EvilRoey | kamil_: it may be that your sound gets auto-muted (you'll see it in alsamixer as "M") | 14:20 |
BluesKaj | kamil_, the headpone output isn't meant for speakers, altho they will play. The speakers referred to in alsa are the internal speakers | 14:20 |
kamil_ | okay, but why i have to change it automatically in Kmix? | 14:21 |
kamil_ | sorry not in kmix | 14:21 |
kamil_ | in settings | 14:21 |
kamil_ | i have to change it manually* | 14:22 |
BluesKaj | kamil_, if they work, why worry , it's a minor problem | 14:22 |
kamil_ | not really, in other systems it worked | 14:22 |
kamil_ | i am not going to leave it "because of reason" | 14:23 |
BluesKaj | then try with different settings untill they work for you .. a lot depends on the sound card make and model, sometimes the the same audio chip works differntly in different cards , there's no hard and fast rule when it comes to audio on linux | 14:26 |
kamil_ | okay ill try | 14:28 |
lordievader | EvilRoey: Just one disk? | 14:34 |
EvilRoey | lordievader: apparently that's all it sees at this point, yeah | 14:35 |
EvilRoey | .. | 14:35 |
EvilRoey | lordievader: I need to turn it off and then on again and watch what dmesg says | 14:35 |
lordievader | EvilRoey: So, as I said before, there is your problem ;) | 14:35 |
EvilRoey | yeah :) | 14:35 |
lordievader | EvilRoey: Run the udev monitor | 14:36 |
EvilRoey | how so? | 14:36 |
lordievader | EvilRoey: Shows if the kernel recognizes the drive. | 14:36 |
EvilRoey | ok | 14:36 |
EvilRoey | how do I do this? | 14:36 |
EvilRoey | is the command just "udev monitor" ? | 14:36 |
lordievader | sudo udevadm monitor --environment --udev | 14:36 |
EvilRoey | ah interesting | 14:37 |
EvilRoey | lordievader: and what does this show me regarding USB connections & external hard drives? | 14:37 |
lordievader | It shows anything that goes through udev. | 14:38 |
EvilRoey | oh! ok then. | 14:39 |
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yossarianuk | anyone had any joy with Plasma5.4 + new nvidia driver 355.11 with EGL ? | 15:39 |
BluesKaj | plasma 5.4 is a letdown so far IMO | 15:41 |
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BluesKaj | another example of releasing too soon, i | 15:43 |
BluesKaj | it's not whole yet | 15:43 |
yossarianuk | well EGL is experimental, my issue is that that it just will not enable... | 15:44 |
yossarianuk | plasma 5.4 seems a bit nicer than 5.2/5.3 | 15:44 |
yossarianuk | really like the new application launcher. | 15:44 |
BluesKaj | realy? , the app launcher looks the same to me | 15:45 |
yossarianuk | i.e -> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2015/08/plasma-5-4-new-features | 15:47 |
yossarianuk | Its like unity/gnome launcher but faster (and doesn't online search..) | 15:47 |
yossarianuk | you have you right click on the kmenu then -> alternatives | 15:48 |
yossarianuk | (you need 5.4 though) | 15:48 |
BluesKaj | oh the dashboard, I still use the kicke | 15:49 |
BluesKaj | kicker | 15:50 |
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yossarianuk | the dashboard is new in 5.4.. | 16:02 |
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anna` | How do i stop windows from opening stuck to a corner? | 16:59 |
roman__ | what? | 17:03 |
anna` | system settings -> window management -> Advanced tab -> placement -> Change it from "smart" | 17:04 |
mikkle | Has Kubuntu 15.10 replaced kmix with plasma-pa yet? | 17:22 |
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Okitain | Anyone got Thunderbird's tray to work, peeps? | 18:52 |
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