[03:44] hello [03:44] everybody === ghosty_ is now known as roo00t_ === roo00t_ is now known as roo00t [06:00] Good morning. [06:17] Hi does anybody know where is the option to disable the remember open apps when shutting down? [06:18] found it === SouL__ is now known as Majik_ === Majik_ is now known as Majik__ === daniel_ is now known as daniel__ [07:13] hello every body ... I am trying to upgrade my kubuntu 14.04 to 15.04 ... can someone help me ? [07:14] noums: What seems to be the issue? [07:15] i tryed multiple command like this "sudo do-release-upgrade -d", or this "sudo kubuntu-devel-release-upgrade" bet nothing is happening [07:17] i'm not sure if such upgrade is supported, hmm [07:19] well maybe it is :) [07:31] noums: It is likely that your settings are to only go from LTS to LTS [07:32] thanks ... Ia going to try to change config to see if it works better [07:32] noums: And 14.04 is the current LTS release. So if you want to change that, you can go into Muon and change settings from LTS only [07:32] Then you'll have to upgrade 14.04 -> 14.10 -> 15.04 [07:35] Wich will be interesting since 14.10 is EOL. [07:38] Well, there are other ways.... [07:39] Indeed, reinstalling is likely easier and faster. === thomas_ is now known as Guest36308 [09:08] is kubuntu planning to support more devices with kubuntu phone? === manjaro-kde5____ is now known as sinisterdoor === axelk is now known as Guest10996 === ircjirc is now known as student667 === bukai_ is now known as bukai === bukai_ is now known as bukai === manjaro-kde5___ is now known as SinisterDoor [10:42] Is anyone aware of a keyboard shortcut in konsole (or maybe just general Linux) that outputs the /etc/hosts contents ? [10:43] I ask as everytime my 2rd old bangs my keyboard randomly he manages to do that (there is no way he he doing .cat /etc/hosts' [10:45] less /etc/hosts ? ;] [10:57] diafour_: pretty sure he's not typing a command... its like some odd shortcut ... [10:57] (not a major issue just interested in how he keep doing it.) [10:58] awh... 2 year old? [10:59] Just press page up and enter. May be cat /etc/hosts is a first line in your history. [11:00] diafour_: i've check and there is no line... maybe when he grows up a but he'll tell daddy... [11:05] ctrl +r -> c -> enter? [11:07] man bash [11:07] /complete-hostname [11:07] =) [11:22] hello [11:23] any body use QHD+ ultrabook [11:46] dasd [11:46] hi all [11:51] any news on plasma 5.4.0 backport? [12:13] Hey folks [12:15] o/ === user is now known as Guest12096 [12:51] lordievader: \o [12:51] hey BluesKaj [12:51] lordievader, BluesKaj: are you guys Ubuntu or Blue Systems staff? [12:52] ev` I'm neither [12:52] ah ok [12:52] EvilRoey ^ [12:53] BluesKaj: but I see you here offering support, are you involved officially with Kubuntu? [12:53] < --- a home user who tests kubuntu [12:53] aha! [12:53] ok [12:53] I am a home user as well [12:54] currently I have an issue getting my backup HD to mount (same issue as a few months back) [12:56] EvilRoey, do you have the HDD as an entry in /etc/fstab? [12:56] EvilRoey: No. [12:56] EvilRoey: How are you trying to mount it? [12:56] well, you should [12:57] BluesKaj, that is wrong. [12:57] I do not have an entry in fstab and it works fine. [12:57] works here Graf_Westerholt [12:57] Graf_Westerholt: You let KDE mount it? [12:57] I allways dislike DE's mounting my stuff. [12:57] BluesKaj, you can also do a rain dance, it will work for you with your disk, but also without the rain dance. [12:58] lordievader, yes, KDE. [12:58] Graf_Westerholt, I prefer a shorter UUID than a bunch of numbers and letters === axelk is now known as Guest71288 [12:58] BluesKaj, I do not care about an UUID. [12:59] BluesKaj, I guess you do it a lot wrong. [12:59] i don't care thay you don't care, Graf_Westerholt so stop interefering , you do it your way [12:59] A UUID is determined by the filesystem type? [13:00] Anyhow, EvilRoey how are you trying to mount it? [13:00] I was making a sugestion that works for most users [13:06] BluesKaj, you can suggest a rain dance and it will work, because it also work without a rain dance. [13:07] Graf_Westerholt, you're going on ignore, sop dopn't waste your energy on me [13:08] BluesKaj, but the people who wants real help can still read me. :P [13:44] EvilRoey, do you have the HDD as an entry in /etc/fstab? [13:44] er kinda? [13:44] not sure if the UUID is there, lemme check [13:44] lordievader: trying to mount it with the mount command: mount /backup [13:45] oh I see that I don't use UUIDs for the backup drives [13:45] I just have it as /dev/sdc /backup in fstab [13:45] sudo mount /backup works [13:45] er [13:45] it reutrns without visible error [13:46] but then I don't see it actually mounted when I issue "mount" [13:47] EvilRoey: No errors? So it is mounted? [13:47] er I don't think it is mounted, no. [13:48] EvilRoey: What is the output of 'mount'? [13:48] it is missing that entry showing that the disk is mounted [13:48] (obviously it is not) [13:48] I'd paste you the stuff but really I need to be next to the disk to be able to turn it on/off and see any changes in syslog or dmesg [13:49] EvilRoey: Could you pastbin your /etc/fstab and the output of 'sudo mount -v /backup'? [13:49] sure. [13:50] lordievader: http://pastebin.com/Ge8SjgUC [13:51] Hmm, and the fstab? [13:53] # 20140626 Roey Katz: Dirvish backup drive [13:53] /dev/sdc /backup ext4 nofail,noatime,defaults 0 2 [13:53] 20150901 09:52:52 roey@gear:~$ [13:53] EvilRoey, why do you want to mount it in the terminal? [13:53] well I have it auotmatically monting at startup [13:53] but the reason I mount it in the terminal, [13:53] is because I swap it every few weeks with an identically-sized hard drive [13:53] I rotate backup drives [13:53] EvilRoey: You put the filesystem right on the blockdevice? [13:53] No partition table? [13:53] oh you mean instead of a partition? [13:54] em yeah I guess [13:54] Yes. [13:54] there's no difference for me in terms of performance or functionality [13:54] I mean my system's drive is partitioned [13:54] EvilRoey: Could you pastebin the output of 'sudo parted /dev/sdc'? [13:54] of course [13:54] EvilRoey, so you are having your backup drive always connected to your PC? [13:54] Error: Could not stat device /dev/sdc - No such file or directory. [13:54] Graf_Westerholt: yeah [13:55] EvilRoey, than it is not a backup. You are doing it all wrong. [13:55] Graf_Westerholt: yeah I run dirvish so it incrementally backs up every night [13:55] Graf_Westerholt: and then I swap it out periodically with another drive [13:55] so that even if I lose the comptuer, I still have my data (minus a week or so) [13:55] EvilRoey: There is your issue. [13:55] lordievader: how so [13:55] EvilRoey, if yor PC gets demage do high voltage or something it will destroy also the packup. You never do it the way you do now. [13:55] Graf_Westerholt: what's the correct way then? [13:55] EvilRoey: You are trying to mount sdc, according to your output there is no sdc. [13:56] EvilRoey, you should read how to do backups right. [13:56] lordievader: right. Like I said, I'd go at my drive and turn it off/on to determine the bigger issue [13:56] It't external? [13:56] Graf_Westerholt: you're antagonizing me with your non-constructive condescension. [13:56] EvilRoey, ok, go on and lose your data. [13:56] Graf_Westerholt: please don't talk to me. Thank you. [13:58] EvilRoey: Is sdc external? [14:08] lordievader: correct [14:08] Graf_Westerholt: like, that's the worst advice you can possibly give anyone. [14:09] Graf_Westerholt: "you're doing it all wrong". Really? When your only quip with what I described is that it's connected to my computer. [14:09] Graf_Westerholt: doesn't sound at all "all wrong" [14:11] EvilRoey: Then you really want to mount by UUID. [14:11] EvilRoey: Just ignore him ;) [14:13] :) [14:14] lordievader: I'll have lines in fstab for both drives then, aye [14:14] lordievader: so this issue is interesting because in the past, all I did was run "gparted" on the drive--not even change it--and then I found I could mount it [14:15] EvilRoey: Could you pastebin the output of 'ls /dev/sd*'? [14:17] hi guys, i have weird problem [14:17] when i connect my speakers to laptop, they dont play [14:18] i have to manually change connector from speakers to HEADPHONES, and then speakers will play [14:18] lordievader: it's udev so it'll show a bunch I figure... hold on [14:18] is it annoying and weird, do you have any idea? [14:19] kamil_: what kind of conncetion is it [14:19] lordievader: 20150901 09:54:39 roey@gear:~$ ls /dev/sd* [14:19] /dev/sda /dev/sda1 /dev/sda2 [14:19] oh. Hrm. [14:19] EvilRoey: i have combo jack in my laptop [14:19] lordievader: I guess the system didn't pick it up when I connected it. [14:19] kamil_: ah.. I meant, is it USB or headphone jack? [14:19] alsamixer [14:20] it is jack [14:20] sometimes it might be muted [14:20] ok [14:20] hey guys, any news on plasma 5.4.0 backport? [14:20] so you can try alsamixer and then pavucontrol [14:20] kamil_: it may be that your sound gets auto-muted (you'll see it in alsamixer as "M") [14:20] kamil_, the headpone output isn't meant for speakers, altho they will play. The speakers referred to in alsa are the internal speakers [14:21] okay, but why i have to change it automatically in Kmix? [14:21] sorry not in kmix [14:21] in settings [14:22] i have to change it manually* [14:22] kamil_, if they work, why worry , it's a minor problem [14:22] not really, in other systems it worked [14:23] i am not going to leave it "because of reason" [14:26] then try with different settings untill they work for you .. a lot depends on the sound card make and model, sometimes the the same audio chip works differntly in different cards , there's no hard and fast rule when it comes to audio on linux [14:28] okay ill try [14:34] EvilRoey: Just one disk? [14:35] lordievader: apparently that's all it sees at this point, yeah [14:35] .. [14:35] lordievader: I need to turn it off and then on again and watch what dmesg says [14:35] EvilRoey: So, as I said before, there is your problem ;) [14:35] yeah :) [14:36] EvilRoey: Run the udev monitor [14:36] how so? [14:36] EvilRoey: Shows if the kernel recognizes the drive. [14:36] ok [14:36] how do I do this? [14:36] is the command just "udev monitor" ? [14:36] sudo udevadm monitor --environment --udev [14:37] ah interesting [14:37] lordievader: and what does this show me regarding USB connections & external hard drives? [14:38] It shows anything that goes through udev. [14:39] oh! ok then. === jemand is now known as Jemand [15:39] anyone had any joy with Plasma5.4 + new nvidia driver 355.11 with EGL ? [15:41] plasma 5.4 is a letdown so far IMO === LjL` is now known as LjL-Alps [15:43] another example of releasing too soon, i [15:43] it's not whole yet [15:44] well EGL is experimental, my issue is that that it just will not enable... [15:44] plasma 5.4 seems a bit nicer than 5.2/5.3 [15:44] really like the new application launcher. [15:45] realy? , the app launcher looks the same to me [15:47] i.e -> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2015/08/plasma-5-4-new-features [15:47] Its like unity/gnome launcher but faster (and doesn't online search..) [15:48] you have you right click on the kmenu then -> alternatives [15:48] (you need 5.4 though) [15:49] oh the dashboard, I still use the kicke [15:50] kicker === saheb is now known as sahebpreet [16:02] the dashboard is new in 5.4.. === LjL` is now known as LjL-Alps [16:59] How do i stop windows from opening stuck to a corner? [17:03] what? [17:04] system settings -> window management -> Advanced tab -> placement -> Change it from "smart" [17:22] Has Kubuntu 15.10 replaced kmix with plasma-pa yet? === kubuntu is now known as Guest79743 === me is now known as Guest8672 === ole3 is now known as Okitain [18:52] Anyone got Thunderbird's tray to work, peeps? === SouL__ is now known as Majik__ === jemand is now known as Jemand