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pittiGood morning04:22
didrocksgood morning05:51
dufluMorning didrocks05:52
pittibonojur didrocks05:54
pittihey duflu05:54
duflupitti, morgen05:57
didrocksgood evening duflu05:58
didrocksbonjour pitti :)05:58
dufludidrocks: Arguably still lunchtime :)05:58
didrocksok, a little bit early, admitted :)06:00
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larsumorning!07:14
larsuhm, quiet here07:17
* pitti makes some noise07:22
pittihey larsu, wie gehts?07:22
larsupitti!07:22
larsupitti, great! Just got the keys to my new place :)07:22
larsuand you?07:22
* pitti s'en va, c'est l'heure de courier07:22
pittilarsu: alles gut, danke!07:23
didrockshey larsu ;)07:23
didrockspitti: courir07:23
pittilarsu: oh, you moved as well? seems to be the season :)07:23
didrockspitti: courrier is the mail :)07:23
larsumorning didrocks! ça va?07:23
pittididrocks: ah, un faux "e", merci :)07:23
larsupitti, yep. You too?07:23
pittididrocks: je vais commencer des lessons français bientôt :)07:24
didrockslarsu: ça va bien! How are you? Completely healthy and motivated for oyur move?07:24
pittilarsu: nah, I'm really happy where I am right now07:24
didrockspitti: \o/ online?07:24
* larsu is not online :(07:24
pittididrocks: non, avec des vraies personnes, dans l'institut "inlingua" ici07:24
larsuinternet in a couple of weeks or so07:24
didrocksseems both pitti and larsu are going to exercise now… but in different ways. One will be for the legs, the other, the arms (with optional legs if no lift and floor 3+) :)07:24
didrockspitti: waow! courageux :)07:25
pittididrocks: bien sûr j'aussi continue duolingo07:25
didrockslarsu: told you, do you have french ISP? :)07:25
pittilarsu: couple of weeks!07:25
didrocksthe rule with ISP is "once it works, it's awesome, but first, you need to get it working…"07:26
larsudidrocks, no... there's no router thing in the basement yet. Cables still hanging from the wall :/07:26
didrocksoh, even worse then…07:26
larsuat least one of them is already connected to the apartment07:26
pittididrocks: j'ai un rendez-vous jeudi soir là-bas, pour choisir quelle course je vais prendre07:26
larsudidrocks, totally07:26
didrockspitti: super, c'est combien de leçons?07:27
pittilarsu: ah :) (because Telekom is really fast these days if the wiring is in place)07:27
didrockslarsu: so, the previous inhabitants didn't have any Internet?07:27
pittididrocks: je crois 2007:27
didrockspitti: une heure à chaque fois ?07:27
larsupitti, yep, they were awesome. Called a couple of minutes before he arrived and was very nice07:27
larsudidrocks, they completely redid the whole place07:27
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pittididrocks: une 1.5 h leçon chaque semaine07:28
larsunew wiring and all07:28
* pitti s'en va vraiment maintenant07:28
didrockspitti: bon courage !07:28
didrockslarsu: bon courage !07:28
larsuthanks!07:28
didrocksdidrocks: bon courage ! (to stay here and work alone :p)07:29
larsuhaha07:29
* larsu needs a table07:29
didrockslarsu: are you on 1st floor ?07:29
larsudidrocks, 3rd07:29
didrockslift?07:30
didrocks(I never use the lift, but for moving in/out…)07:30
larsubut my stuff isn't coming until this afternoon07:30
larsunope, no lift07:30
larsuwanna help carry?07:30
didrocksI wonder the time to arrive if you wouldn't have finished already07:30
didrocksand I know it will be great for desrt's health07:30
larsuyeah and I have 3 others in addition to desrt07:31
didrocksso, I don't want to be responsible for future health issue because he couldn't carry all boxes to the 3rd floor :)07:31
larsu(maybe 4)07:31
larsuhehe07:31
didrockstell him I took care of his health (and greetings ;))07:31
larsuwill do07:34
larsu(he's not here yet)07:34
* larsu goes and finds a better place to work07:35
Laneyhoi08:01
didrockshey Laney! How was your long week-end?08:02
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Laneyhey didrocks08:05
willcookeMorning08:05
Laneygood thanks!08:05
Laneyswimming in the sea, fish and chips, beer, wine, games, food08:05
larsuhi Laney and willcooke! What's up?08:05
larsuLaney, nice!08:06
Laney\o o/08:06
Laneyhey larsu08:06
Laneyhow's it going for you & didrocks & willcooke?08:06
willcookeis good08:06
didrockshey willcooke!08:07
larsuLaney, got the keys to the new apartment. Moving stuff this afternoon08:07
larsuit's all great, but no internet08:07
didrockslarsu: good thanks, enjoyed swimming pool for the last days of summer08:07
didrocksnow, it's raining, so not as good :)08:07
larsudidrocks, s/larsu/Laney08:07
didrocksargh ETOOMANYLA08:07
didrocks;)08:07
larsunow someone called saying this other guy didn't do his job right08:07
Laneylarsu: tethering time?08:07
larsuI have the feeling this internet thing will become a saga08:07
larsuLaney, yep. In a cafe right now because I don't even have a table yet :)08:08
Laneynice08:08
Laneyare you with desrt?08:08
Laneyhow was the weekend thingy?08:08
larsuLaney, desrt arrives at 1 or so. Weekend was awesome. *Lots* of wine and going 20km on a draisine08:09
* Laney looks up draisine08:10
larsuhttps://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eisenbahn-Draisine08:10
Laneywhat on earth!08:10
Laneythat looks fun08:10
larsuwe had a couple of those: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eisenbahn-Draisine#/media/File:Draisine-templin.jpg08:10
larsuLaney, it is! Was a bit too hot that day, but tons of fun08:10
didrocksLaney: as told yesterday, I guess this was the pre-warming for moving today :)08:12
Laneyheh08:12
willcookeSounds like Trevinho and hikiko are having fun :)08:12
LaneyI've only seen those ones from american movies08:12
Laneylarsu: I re-did that gdbus stuff on the train journeys btw and it works now08:13
Laneygo figure :/08:13
didrockswillcooke: ah, links?08:13
larsunice!08:13
Laneyprobably missed some unref or something08:13
larsuyou just started from scratch?08:13
Laneyyeah08:13
Laneyyou can look at the MP once I've renamed all the stuff if you want08:14
Laneyor leave it for charles :P08:14
larsusure I'll have a look08:15
willcookedidrocks, the rambling conversation in the telegram group08:15
larsuI'm not in that team anymore - let me know when the MR is up08:15
Laneywill 'request review' from you08:17
larsuk08:18
didrockswillcooke: ah, I need to check sometimes there ;)08:19
Laneybahaha08:22
Laneylistening to a radio documentary about bilingual people08:22
Laneythey're interviewing a german person who is working on subtitling geordie shore08:22
Laneythey played a clip (in english) and I could barely understand what they were saying08:23
larsuhave we ever had problems with notify-osd leaking memory?08:23
larsuLaney, what's geordie shore?08:23
Laneyi'm trying to find a youtube video08:24
Laneyit's a version of an american show called jersey shore08:25
larsuah, I've heard of that08:25
larsusome reality tv thing, right?08:25
Laneyyeah08:25
Laneypoint was that even fully bilingual people find this one hard to comprehend08:26
larsulol08:26
LaneyHAHAHA08:27
didrocksLaney: in the past, we did, but I thought most of them were fixed once we "valgrinded" it08:28
didrocksargh08:28
didrockslarsu: ^08:28
Laneydude!08:28
didrocksonce of you two have to change nickname :p08:28
didrocksweechat can't cope when both of you are speaking08:28
Laneyyou'd think we just did08:28
Laneynot like we've both been around for years :P08:28
didrocksLaney: issue is when both of you are talking as weechat complete with the one who talked the most recently08:29
didrocksso La<tab>08:29
didrocksso, a good example: di<tab> -> one match!08:29
Laneyi'm surprised that this is the first time that has been a problem though...08:30
larsudidrocks, fix your client :P08:30
larsudidrocks, I'm asking because I just found one ;)08:30
Laneyuse three characters to tab complete08:30
Laneyor read what it offers you08:30
Laney:)08:30
didrocksLaney: reading? so outdated :p08:30
larsuLaney, xchat has this problem as well. It tab completes my own nick...08:30
* larsu can't wait to get back to irssi+screen08:31
Laneyya, poor you08:31
Laneywhat are you doing inside notify-osd?08:31
Laneyare you fixing its hidpi stuff??? :) :) :)08:32
larsuLaney, yep08:32
Laneyoh wow08:32
larsuit's a bit tricky08:32
LaneyI tried to insert that into des_rt's head08:32
didrocksLaney: hence the "poor him" :)08:32
Laneybut I think it fell out08:32
larsubut already I'm seeing nice and crisp notifications08:32
didrockslarsu: can you get back the red and green lines to ensure everything is alined? :)08:33
larsudidrocks, never heard of those nor seen them08:33
didrockslarsu: I guess you were not running the devel version at the time08:34
larsumaybe there's a way to turn it back on?08:34
didrocksbasically, debug infos, that was only useful to the unique dev08:34
* larsu will check08:34
larsuthanks for the hint08:34
didrocksbut enabled to everyone "because"08:34
didrocks:)08:34
larsulol08:34
* didrocks tries to find pictures of it08:34
didrockscan't find it :/08:35
larsuvodafone is looking forward to the "personal contact" with me... weird08:36
ogra_cuddling with providers !08:37
larsuI'd prefer if they'd just answer my mail instead of sending such drivel08:37
larsuogra_, I'd rather not :)08:37
ogra_who would !08:37
ogra_:)08:37
larsuindeed08:37
larsuI'd love if they would cuddle the end of that cable in my basement into whatever plug it needs to go :D08:38
ogra_haha08:39
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Trevinhowillcooke: yeah, Nice time. Also (hopefully) productive, BTW.08:46
TrevinhoThen people here has this strange way to give you welcome by drinking up with you.... But well, they're the first who can't handle it :)08:46
larsuTrevinho, hi! Did you see my ping from yesterday?08:47
Trevinholarsu: oh, yeah... but then you wasn't there anymore08:47
larsuTrevinho, ya sorry. Will soon have irssi/screen setup again. Any comments?08:48
Trevinholarsu: so.... Well, so I noticed the side effect (opaque corners, right?)08:48
larsuyes08:48
larsuand I think if I make gtk set an argb visual, I don't get shadows anymore08:49
Trevinholarsu: you mean server shadows, right?08:50
larsuTrevinho, yes. We turned off client side shadows because we don't support frame extents08:51
Trevinholarsu: I think I got a way to recognize those windows, but I didn't enable since it wasn't needed with old-gtk, but I can test whether that is now the way08:51
TrevinhoSo, if you enable ARGB visual for us, then probably I can get server shadows again08:51
larsuTrevinho, please do :)08:51
larsulet me know when you have something so I can test it08:52
Trevinholarsu: that was the thing I had saved... http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/12244051/08:54
Trevinholarsu: I need to check whether that apply still...08:54
Trevinhoouch08:54
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xnoxLaney: where did the DPI slider go from unity system settings on vivid?09:52
xnoxwe have high internal, low external, and the external IS REALLY BIG09:52
Laneyyou mean the one in Displays?09:53
pittitjaalton: wrt. our conversation the other day, new xorg-server and other bits are still blocked on http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html#xcb-util causing uninstallability10:04
pittihttp://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_output.txt shows that it apparently makes $world uninstallable10:04
xnoxpitti: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/149091810:20
ubot5Error: ubuntu bug 1490918 not found10:20
xnoxpitti: or do i need to subscribe you, for you to see?10:20
* xnox ponders Laney as well.10:20
xnoxLaney: pitti: please let me know if you see it https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/149091810:21
pittixnox: I see it10:23
pittixnox: (but I'm not ~u-desktop :) )10:23
xnoxpitti: well, as ex-security and ex-desktop i think you would find it funny though ;-)10:23
xnoxpitti: i wonder if it's counting the comments length.10:23
pittixnox: yeah; not sure whether it really deserves to be called a security bug10:24
xnoxpitti: i know that pgp keys generate different fingerprint based on key size, i am not sure about ssh, i.e. if one can clash checksum with different key sizes cause then there could be a spoof.10:25
xnox"yeah, this is my key on that server" when in fact it's a different one.... but yeah, i bet it is just a display/gui issue however.10:26
Laneyxnox: I see it, but I think you should file upstream10:29
xnoxwell....10:29
xnoxLaney: is it same in wily? /me is on vivid.10:30
Laneyhttps://git.gnome.org/browse/seahorse/tree/ssh/seahorse-ssh-key-data.c#n3510:30
Laneyyes10:30
Laneysame10:30
tjaaltonpitti: ah, ancell did that :)10:37
Laneytjaalton: looks like a transition10:38
tjaaltonyes10:41
tjaaltonso qt needs to be built against new xcb-util?11:55
tjaaltonat least11:55
Laneywhatever depends on libxcb-util0 (from memory)11:58
Laneywill need to be rebuilt to pick up ...1 instead11:58
tjaaltonthere's a transitional package though, which was supposed to let it all work12:00
Laneyfor the dev package12:01
Laneyfor built stuff you need the rebuild to link against the new soname12:01
tjaaltonindeed, so a transitional dev package is of little use :)12:03
Laneyit means you don't have to change the source apart from adding a changelog entry12:03
tjaaltonright, "little use"12:04
Laneyhaha12:05
tjaaltonoh well, I'll rebuild those then12:05
Laneyit depends on the size of the transition I guess12:05
Laneywill you take those packaging changes into Debian so we don't diverge on the package names?12:05
tjaaltonwell, debian didn't like changing the dev package name..12:05
tjaaltonso it's not uploaded there yet12:06
Laney...12:06
Laneymight want to undo this in ubuntu then12:06
tjaalton"I don't think we should change those package names, it's just a bunch of12:06
tjaaltonwork for no benefit IMO."12:06
tjaaltonthough now that the soname is bumped it's kinda confusing to keep the old soname in dev package12:07
Laneyyeah12:09
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Laneywell, it's your stuff, I just advise doing it one way in D & U12:09
tjaalton*would be12:09
tjaaltonyes12:09
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Laneyooh12:35
* Laney gets a-c_n on a patch12:35
Laneynow I can try out my shiny new gnome git accoutn12:35
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tjaaltonshit, because of the xcb-util mess x-x-v-intel snapshot never made it to main before ffe13:13
tjaaltoner, ff13:13
tjaaltonI wouldn't mind lp nagging the uploader about packages that haven't migrated after a certain time13:15
Laneytjaalton: It's probably okay if it's uploaded13:15
Laneybefore FF, as long as it's not ages and ages13:15
Laneydoko says he is doing rebuilds btw, you should coordinate with him if you are too13:16
tjaaltonhmm ok13:16
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* Laney has done first git.gnome.org push13:45
LaneyI slightly messed up using git bz13:46
* Laney is now scared that continuous is going to kill me13:46
Laneys/me/him/13:46
larsuTrevinho, "ouch"? I guess it doesn't apply anymore?14:24
larsuLaney, congrats!14:25
Trevinholarsu: no sorry... I had a meeting next and then we've been taken to dinner, so I had no time to check... I'll do once back to our continent.14:26
larsuTrevinho, yeah it's not the most important thing, but I'd like to get it done this cycle14:26
larsuTrevinho, thanks and enjoy ;)14:26
Trevinho;-)14:27
* Sweet5hark takes a deep breath.15:06
* Sweet5hark buckles up.15:06
* Sweet5hark braces for impact.15:06
Sweet5harkseb128: please consider to upload  http://people.canonical.com/~bjoern/wily/5.0.1/libreoffice_5.0.1-0ubuntu1_source.changes to wily15:07
Sweet5harkoh, no seb128. :(15:07
* Sweet5hark hides, camps in a corner and patiently waits for a sponsor to show up ...15:10
Sweet5harkdidrocks: didnt you sponsor LibreOffice once? Wasnt that just _awesome_? It was. Im sure.15:11
* didrocks feels a trap15:16
didrocksespecially when reading backlog15:16
Sweet5hark.oO(luckily we will have a meeting in 15 minutes, they cannot hide then)15:16
didrocksnot sure what I should tell15:16
didrocksI remember to have maintained OpenOffice.org15:16
didrocksremembered*15:16
didrocksthat wasn't so nice, even for this 6 months until you come :)15:16
didrocksI guess that libreoffice is a total other world of joy though!15:17
didrocksSweet5hark: if you send me an email, I promise to have a look tomorrow morning :)15:17
didrocksbefore my eyes bleed15:17
didrocksand then, I'll be able to call it a day :p15:18
Sweet5harkhrhr15:18
Sweet5harkdidrocks: awesome, thanks. Its not too urgent. Its just the first LibreOffice 5.0.x upload in wily. If anything fails, just blame me. ;)15:20
didrocksSweet5hark: this is the usual procedure, right? ;)15:20
didrockseven for non libreoffice thingy15:20
Sweet5harkdidrocks: oh yeah, feel free to blame me for whatever. As a bonus I then dont have to bother to apply for dpm rights on libreoffice anymore and can do other stuff!15:22
* Sweet5hark hides.15:22
didrocksheh15:23
willcookeding ding ding ding15:30
* willcooke quickly reads scroll back15:30
didrocksdong?15:30
ogra_hells bells15:31
willcooke#startmeeting Weekly Desktop Team Meeting - 2015-09-0115:31
meetingologyMeeting started Tue Sep  1 15:31:22 2015 UTC.  The chair is willcooke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.15:31
meetingologyAvailable commands: action commands idea info link nick15:31
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willcookeSomebody needs to do something about this relentless march of time.  September is here.15:31
Laneyback to school15:31
willcookeRoll call:  andyrock, attente, desrt,  dgadomski, didrocks, fjkong (travelling), happyaron(travelling), hikiko (travelling), laney, larsu, qengho, seb128 (hols), sweet5hark, themuso (out), tkamppeter, trevino (travelling), robert_ancell (sick)15:32
* Sweet5hark waves15:32
didrockswillcooke: and teachers are on strike, everything's back to normal :)15:32
* Trevinho is watching you :-)15:33
dgadomskio/15:33
desrto/15:33
desrt<larsu> o/15:33
willcookeI'll give people a few mins and then we'll get started15:34
larsuthanks desrt15:34
willcookeI'm supposed to be in another meeting15:34
willcookewell, not true15:34
Laneyhi desrt!!!!!15:34
willcookeI'm *supposed* to be here15:34
larsuwillcooke is starting to get how this meeting works15:34
larsus/this/the15:34
TrevinhoThere's NO other meeting15:34
larsuhow could there be. The meeting's here.15:35
willcookeTrevinho, are you really here, or just passing through?15:35
willcookeok, let's get started then15:35
willcookeIf he's around.....15:35
willcooke#topic andyrock15:36
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andyrockLast week was all about properly fixing cube on multimonitor. This is blocking the other work I m doing on compiz to fix some regressions we had with screen resizing.15:36
Sweet5harkwillcooke: its ok, just have your other meeting. we will have fun with meetingology in the meantime.15:36
TrevinhoWillcooke watching... Please write in my behalf :-)15:36
andyrockBasically it all for me15:36
andyrockBasically it all for me15:36
andyrockCompiz is just to messy15:36
willcookeThanks andyrock, just seen your mail, sorry about that15:36
willcooke#topic attente15:36
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andyrockNp!15:36
willcookeattente:  travelling to London and back.  EOW15:37
willcooke#topic desrt15:37
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attentei'm here...15:37
willcooke#topic attente15:37
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attentepocket desktop sprint last week15:37
attenteworked on abstracting out popup menu placement in GTK down into GDK, still in progress15:37
attenteinvestigated clipboard support in X, details are in the meeting notes15:37
attentecurrently investigating requirements for keyboard layouts in Mir15:38
attente(eof)15:38
willcookethanks attente15:38
willcookeattente, was your trip home uneventful?15:38
attentewillcooke: fortunately yes :)15:38
willcooke:)15:38
willcooke#topic desrt15:38
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desrtat larsu's now, with very bad net connectivity (so his update may be missing)15:39
desrthanging out in file monitor land trying to clean up the mess i made15:39
desrteof.15:39
willcooke:)15:39
willcookeThanks desrt15:39
willcooke#topic dgadomski15:39
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dgadomski(un)fortunately the desktop seems still perfect - no new issues were reported to me this week15:39
dgadomskikeep up the good work :) thanks15:39
willcooke\o/15:39
willcookethanks dgadomski15:39
willcooke#topic didrocks15:40
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didrocksShort week (swapping on Friday)15:40
didrocksUbuntu Make:15:40
didrocks* Unity 3D editor experimental support. You can install it through: umake games unity3d. Only amd64 is currently supported upstream.15:40
didrocks* Fix Arduino download as upstream web pages changes. Support more release version format and ensure we don't raise an exception but only log an error.15:40
didrocks* Add license support to Android NDK.15:40
didrocks* Adapt and add large and medium tests for both Unity 3D and Android NDK.15:40
didrocks* Various enhancements to enable decompressing shell-embedded archives without copying entire files. Add corresponding tests.15:40
didrocks* Refactor Android license parsing to be reusable to future Android SDK support.15:40
didrocks* Fix a bug where if license was after the download links, we wouldn't find the license.15:40
didrocks* Better add_to_user_env API for contributors.15:40
didrocks* Minor cosmetic and small bug fixes.15:40
didrocks* Multiple contributors review. We again won a new contributor :)15:40
didrocksUbuntu developer advocacy:15:40
didrocks* Get the example app running on phone (adding policies and various adjustement for it)15:40
didrocks* Add location support (with a way to test it on the desktop)15:40
didrocks* Add switch theme support15:40
didrocks* Cleanup for various workaround not needed due to SDK fixes or finding better workaround for some issues.15:40
didrocks* Checking qtcreator and ContentHub bug fixes related to the bug reports I opened.15:40
didrocks* Opening more bug reports on the SDK (discovered from last week, still some to open)15:40
didrocks* Discussing about Go and snappy rasperry pi 2 future dev experience evaluation.15:40
didrocksMisc:15:40
didrocks- printing stack MIR review15:40
didrocks- some sponsoring and NEWing (mostly for Mate)15:40
didrocksEOF15:40
larsushort week?15:40
willcookeawesome, thanks didrocks15:40
desrtdidrocks: i don't think you're being sufficiently productive lately :(15:41
desrtlarsu and i have been talking....15:41
didrocksdesrt: yeah, will try to speed up :p15:41
willcookey'all need to take a long hard look at yourselves compared to didrocks15:41
willcooke;p15:41
Sweet5harkwe need to clone didrocks15:41
* larsu looks15:41
larsumeh15:41
willcookehaha15:41
willcooke#topic larsu15:41
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willcookeerm15:41
willcooke#topic Laney15:41
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willcookestupid alphabet15:42
Laneywe should shuffle the order each week15:42
Laneykeep people on their toes15:42
Laney• Short week due to swap day and bank holiday!15:42
Laney• Worked on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-datetime/+bug/1485659 - MP is up, reviews appreciated. Took ages to get the tests working.15:42
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1485659 in indicator-datetime (Ubuntu) "Date/time indicator doesn't update after changing time zone" [Low,In progress]15:42
Laney• Visited London sprint, some chats about the X release (can't say “some chats about X” or else I'll end up working on something I dont want to...)15:42
Laney• Worked on e-d-s and evo 3.16.5, both uploaded to unstable, need to merge15:42
Laney• Did some release team work (FFe reviews)15:42
Laney• Pushed a bit more on xpathselect, got it migrated15:42
Laney• Thanks to larsu I got a GNOME git account and pushed my first patches :)15:42
Laney15:42
willcookethanks Laney15:42
qenghoI love that damned package.15:42
willcooke#topic larsu15:43
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larsu- finish gedit 3.16 update; refresh traditional menubar patch for 3.16 and master15:43
larsu(running it for a couple of days now - pretty nice!)15:43
larsu- style overlay buttons that are not in toolbars correctly (fixes eog buttons)15:43
larsu- work on hidpiifying notify-osd15:44
larsuwhich is 90% done15:44
Laneyyesssssss15:44
larsuthe last 10% is a bit tricky - trying to figure out *which* of the 5 million surface copies is still ×115:44
larsu- some bugs15:44
larsu</larsu>15:44
willcookethanks larsu15:44
willcooke#topic qengho15:45
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qengho* Translations pump fixes for Chromium.15:45
qengho* Looked into Cr ARM64 building at customer's request. Not soon.15:45
qengho* More work on chromium/ozome/mir. Hit dead-end. Taking different tack.15:45
qenghoEOF15:45
willcookethanks qengho15:45
willcookelets chat about plan B in our 1:115:45
willcooke#topic Sweet5hark15:45
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Sweet5hark- bumped LibreOffice ppa builds to 5.0.115:45
Sweet5hark- bumped LibreOffice docviewer builds to 5.0.115:45
Sweet5hark- fixed test-foo on docviewer builds15:45
Sweet5hark- LibreOffice docviewer build package on armhf is now down to 44.7MB15:45
Sweet5hark- started to query about getting libreoffice-style-elementary into upstream TDF (getting the attribution/licensing stuff right)15:45
Sweet5hark- LibreOffice conference preparations: talks, orga, meetings, agendas, hotel, travel15:45
Sweet5hark- various TDF/LibreOffice board work15:45
Sweet5hark- polished LibreOffice 5.0.1 ppa build to land in wily, didrocks "volunteered" (see backlog) to sponsor in seb128s absence:15:45
Sweet5hark-- http://people.canonical.com/~bjoern/wily/5.0.1/libreoffice_5.0.1-0ubuntu1_source.changes15:45
Sweet5hark-- http://people.canonical.com/~bjoern/wily/5.0.1/libreoffice-l10n_5.0.1-0ubuntu1_source.changes15:45
Sweet5harkEOF15:45
willcookethanks Sweet5hark15:46
Sweet5hark(seeing didrocks weekly report though, anyone else volunteering to sponsor is welcome)15:46
willcookedoc viewer makes apps team happy15:46
willcooke#topic TheMuso15:47
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willcooke* Continued accessibility profile blog post drafting.15:47
willcooke* More work on Orca gsettings backend implementation.15:47
willcooke* Patched Orca so that it doesn't show up in the unity dash search, it should only be enabled from universal access.15:47
willcooke#topic tkamppeter15:47
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tkamppeter- cups-filters: Released and packaged 1.0.74 with several bug fixes in cups-browsed, including a crasher.15:49
tkamppeter- libtrio: Uploaded fixed version built with "-lm"15:49
tkamppeter- hplip: Provide Fax PPD files .gz-compressed so that hp-setup finds them.15:49
tkamppeter- Bugs.15:49
willcookethanks tkamppeter15:49
willcooketkamppeter, I will follow up with you re: printing from the phone asap - just need to clear my plate a little bit first.  But everyone on the phone side wants to see it working15:50
willcookeit'll be great to finally get it in there, complete with dialogues :)15:50
tkamppeterGreat, it was already waiting for so long time.15:51
didrockshttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-maverick-common-printing-dialog15:51
larsuyes!15:52
willcooke:D15:52
didrocks(2006-05-29)15:52
Laney/!\ troll /!\15:52
didrocksvery long time :)15:52
tkamppeterdidrocks, I was not meaning that but the "Printing with mobile in mind" blueprint.15:52
willcooke:D15:52
didrocksbut you will have your unified printing dialog, so win with convergence \o/15:53
willcooke#topic any other business15:53
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willcookeThe marketing team want to start on the plan for 15.1015:54
willcookeSo I will be asking you each to point me at a list of things which I can distil down in to high level marketing style items15:54
willcookeI'll follow up on email15:55
willcookeOh, and also:  I'm going for Ubuntu membership on Thursday night15:56
qenghoWoot!15:56
didrocksgood luck! :)15:56
willcookeIf you feel like writing a testimonial:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WillCooke15:56
willcookeany other bidnezz?  Going in 1 min....15:57
willcooke#endmeeting15:58
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meetingologyMeeting ended Tue Sep  1 15:58:42 2015 UTC.15:58
meetingologyMinutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2015/ubuntu-desktop.2015-09-01-15.31.moin.txt15:58
willcookethanks all15:58
didrocksthanks!15:58
Sweet5harkthanks15:59
Trevinholarsu: ah cool to read about notify osd, I actually had on my list, so thanks... However are you using the unity (per monitor) scaling factor there?16:03
larsuTrevinho, no, I'm using what GtkWidget returns - that should always be correct, no?16:04
TrevinhoLarsu well unfortunately no... As we might change it in gtk settings, and also it's a integer scaling value. However, I can also look at this later, since I wanted to refactor the way we save settings16:06
Trevinho(per eedid, not per output)16:07
larsuTrevinho, ya, please have a look once I'm done - the hard part is getting it to render right, not getting the correct scaling factor16:07
larsuthat's only in one place in the patch16:08
LaneyYou want to make it depend on unity?16:08
larsuTrevinho does16:08
TrevinhoLarsu yeah... I know that... I've been there. No worries.16:08
Laneythat's the you16:09
TrevinhoLaney: no the dependency is in another package that has the setting only16:09
* larsu felt spoken to16:09
Laneybut who sets it?16:09
TrevinhoUnity Control center16:10
larsu"great"16:10
TrevinhoAnd eventually something that reads data from monitor and figure it out the best value on first connection16:11
TrevinhoLaney: Also, as you know... Settings might be optional. So if a key is not available we can just fallback oh the gtk widget value16:13
TrevinhoSo, no worries about this...16:13
Laneyya, it should be done like that16:14
TrevinhoNice... That was my plan.16:16
Laneybut please don't block larsu's stuff on you fixing this16:16
Laneyyou can follow up with that change later16:16
TrevinhoNot at all!16:16
TrevinhoI will do it layer16:16
TrevinhoLater16:17
Laneysweet16:17
TrevinhoOk. Bed time... Tomorrow Changsha tour (wich by the way has some impressive places. Time Square has probably half lights compared to their - unknown to the world - central square)16:21
Laneyhow hot is it?16:25
Laneywhen we were there it was like 40°16:25
Laneybye!16:58
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TrevinhoLaney: Oh.. It's about 30, but humid ad hell. And drinking hot green tea doesn't help much (although they support this) :-)17:10
TrevinhoAd - > as17:10
willcookeg'night all17:17

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